Can Mario Complete Dry Dry Ruins Without Any Keys?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- 93 frame-perfect inputs later, we've got a new glitch video!
I needed to make a TAS to show this off reasonably, and wanted to give a better overview of Loading Zone Storage (LZS) before diving into the challenge.
Applications of LZS are pretty versatile. It is usually used to exaggerate Mario’s angle during a room fade-out, which gets remembered by the game, and gets reapplied as Mario walks into the next room. I think this occurs because the developers wanted room transitions to appear a bit more seamless - if the screen fades while Mario is off-center, the screen reappears with Mario walking from that same angle. Using LZS to amplify our entrance angle enough can make Mario fall out of bounds, and this is sometimes be used to skip sections of the game, or set up other glitches.
See Devon's video on LZS entrance skewing: • Loading Zone skews - P...
Another useful trait of LZS is the ability to combine certain actions with a room transition. Various in-game events differ in terms of priority, and loading zones are pretty high on that priority list. Sometimes, cutscenes or fights can be skipped using this.
The final application of LZS is the hardest to apply, and it’s actually the one we’ll be exploiting the most in this video. While a room is fading out, we have no control of Mario. He’s in a unique state however, where he phases through walls and other objects. It’s a tight window before that next room loads, and we can’t make any new inputs count, but we do know what direction he’ll be going... toward the loading zone we have stored. Dry Dry Ruins has a lot of convenient 2-story rooms, so we can store the bottom loading zone, do a few double frame-perfect jumps up top, and position Mario in front of the door we want to phase through. He’ll walk through the wall during the fade out, and the newest loading zone we touch will take priority. Dry Dry Ruins is somewhat unique in having a loading zone behind each door, because they aren’t truly doors; they’re more like sliding panels. So, this wouldn’t work on just any door, such as the ones in Koopa Bros. Fortress. This can be used to skip most of the keys in the Dry Dry Ruins.
Skipping the last key is a bit more tricky though, requiring the use of Lakilester.
Despite appearing paper-thin, Mario typically has a cylindrical hitbox. We’re going to use Lakilester to obtain “clippy,” a state where Mario’s hitbox is fragmented, only appearing as a flat plane in the direction we’re moving. Clippy naturally exists when Mario’s side boundaries need to be disabled, such as when on a partner - the developers didn’t want Mario’s hitbox pushing Lakilester or Sushie around while we’re controlling them. And the clippy state gets disabled once we hop off.
There are a few ways to preserve clippy though, and we’re going to do it by entering a battle with a menu up. If we hit the block to aggro the Pokey Mummies, we can hop on Lakilester to enable clippy, and open an overworld menu the same time we trigger an encounter. The timing on opening the item or partner menu is sort of misleading, and frame-perfect. Done right, the memory pertaining to clippy will not be stored during the battle, which means clippy will not be deactivated when we get off Lakilester by switching partners. With our abnormal hitbox, it’s fairly simple to angle Mario up-left against the lock, gradually maneuvering up-right until he turns around, and is pushed far enough into the loading zone behind it.
I also show off a few other tricks and glitches that are by no means required to complete Dry Dry Ruins without any keys, but still save time in a speedrunning setting.
Special thanks to Peardian for the original Dry Dry Ruins map!
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Awesome Video
NEW INTRO! Nice Stryder!
Oh dear, now we are going to have a "Can you beat Paper Mario without ___" Or, "Can you beat Paper Mario without Leveling up-" Oh wait... oh dear, you've already started this trend. O_O (In the same way as Mitten Squad
's Fallout Videos XD)
Neat video as usual! I'm glad to see that my old maps are still proving useful. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for these Peardian! I consult them for routing things every once in a while
Remember, if you forget the keys to your home, just hop on a cloud, initiate partner swap at the same millisecond you start a battle with your neighbor's dog, then clip through the door.
What if my gf doesn't appreciate the idea of a partner swap
@@HowPettyful Duplicate her temporarily.
And do a LZS
If I had a nickel...
@@JayStack5 hmmm
Me when I forget my keys at work
ill just frame perfect walk on this border to clip into my bedroom...
Hold up you can watch unlisted vids because you were 21 hours early
@@kevinvh2003 Unlisted just means that it's not accessible unless you have the link. His patrons probably get access to it
SeraphOfChaos1 trying to figure out how he knows about the concept of unlisted videos but also doesn’t get how they work
I hate it when I have to LZS to get home early from work
5:46
I’ve been trained to think he was going to say that checking behind the bush crashes paper mario
If you look closely kooper wasn't his partner at the time so it couldn't be that broken
You know what *did* crash Paper Mario though? For whatever reason, during the livestream when he was building the TAS, killing the Pokey with Thunder Rage crashed the game, so he had to run away instead.
@Jakub Seidl So, killing a Pokey Mummy with Thunder Rage crashes Paper Mario 🤔?
DAMN YOU PAVLOV!!!!!
"Hello, it's a-me the Lockpicking Plumber and today we'll break into the Dry Dry Ruins."
a click on byte 0, nothing on byte 1, byte 2 is binding
@@AkanoWire toda-ay Imma use da pick BosnianBill and I-a made
OH AND THE CROWD GOES WILD
@@AkanoWire LockpickingLawyer?
@@AkanoWire and weve managed to phase through the walls and get inside. Clearly not a very secure lock as it doesnt even pass the phase-through-the-wall check, so i would certainly recomend king tut to choose a different lock
"In order to avoid collecting all the keys in dry dry ruins, we need Lackilester".
Ah yes, the perfect speedrun strat - completing 80% of the game in order to skip chapter 2.
I mean, Stryder's shown glitches for skipping all sorts of things, so I'm pretty sure there's an Early Lakilester glitch (and/or early chapter 6) in one of his vids.
Not sure if it's still the case, but in one point this was done in the All Cards speedrun, since it's faster to do Blue House Skip and come back.
papermariorta.fandom.com/wiki/Blue_House_Skip
Clipping into the locked blue house in Toad Town to reach the deep end of the sewers grants early access to the blue pipe to chapter 5, which can be completed without Bow or super boots, and without Watt by clipping through the background to reach the volcano early (see th-cam.com/video/3oxjPccdLZc/w-d-xo.html). Giving the vase to Kolorado, and checking the bub-ulbs on Mt.Rugged, Forever Forest (which is no longer roadblocked when the game is forced into a chapter 5 or post-chapter 5 state), and Toad Town is sufficient to unlock chapter 6. Assuming you picked up Parakarry and Sushie on the way you should be able to reach Lakilester without trouble.
@Puppet "I used chapter 2 to defeat chapter 2"
@Puppet Kinda like skipping Anti-Guy fight to beat Anti-Guy in a traumatic way.
10:41
"Yeah, you know, in between all these double-frame perfect clippy techniques, we can also jump off this ledge instead of running off so we can use Bombette faster. Why? Oh you know... *_Gotta save those frames!_* "
I love this channel.
Who needs Keys when you have Stryder?
Who needs keys with TH-camrs like these?
Stryder's a KEY item to us
@@torreywhiting5402 I'll go pretend that wasn't funny.
Who needs keys when you can be Clippy?
Me when i forgot to get the keys: *Who needs keys when you can use chapter skip to have lackaluster and do a perfect frame jump + a partner swap and initiate a battle with the item menu open and perfectly use clippy at the last mile-second jump using mario's hitbox to perfectly clip trough dry dry ruins.*
*I feel my brain cells growing....*
“Gotta save those frames!” Also literally going to chapter 6 just to complete this.
Even when doing stuff in a way that isn't speed running, you are always speed running.
That's okay, you only visit Chapter 6 for a few minutes and then it gets reset when you go back to 2
Also like he said you can instead use one of the easily obtainable keys from the start of the ruins instead of going to chapter 6 for the clippy glitch
If you were doing a glitched all chapter run, going out of your way to grab lackilester could still very well be a lot faster.
Even if you do a run that allows starting later chapters, but requires completing then in order, it might still be faster.
I can hear Roxas saying this
I appreciate the extensive LZS description in this vid; i generally gleaned what the tech was and did from the other videos using it but having a full-on description for it is super nice and enlightening for actually fully understanding the tricks
Maybe what we don't need is a paragraph: maybe what we need is an EXAMPLE.
Catch that reference and you get extra internet points. 👏
@@Allen1350 pannenkoek2012 SM64 - Watch for Rolling Rocks - 0.5 A presses (Commentated)
@@9bladesofice points awarded!
I second this. Stryder didn't need to give a thorough explanation of the glitch, but he still went the extra mile and explained it to us. He's amazing.
When i started with this game,it was impossible even with the keys lol
I didn't even get to the ruins at the time. lol
This was actually the only part I needed help with until I figured out years later and then the game was easy to beat.
XD
I love how casually he says "frame-perfect"
People who explore games for glitches or speedrun have the timing or tools and patience to get it.
It's like people who can grind out a Shiny Pokemon but technically much more impressive.
This is a TAS, he doesn't have to perform the jumps manually
+Finluz He’s just broken after the pixel-perfect and sub-pixel-perfect tricks.
@@iamliam42 to his credit, he's shown that he knows how to frame perfect
A decent speedrunner can pull off a frame perfect input, or a pixel perfect input. A frame perfect + pixel perfect input is a lot harder, but I've seen several good speedrunners doing them.
But for the LZE, you need a ton of frame perfect inputs in a row.
RIP old glitchy intro, u had a good run
Nintendo: You need to collect the keys open the rooms of the ruins!
Stryder: Well yes but actually no.
A legend, well shall await your return.
Well, you're the one making the video so my guess is yes, with only a casual 587 frame-perfect jumps and 19 sub-pixel perfect maneuvers.
P.S. I absolutely love your videos. You can take the most confusing and convoluted things and explain it to the point where 7-year old me playing this game for the first time would understand.
I still cant understand having a friendly conversation crashes paper mario though.
@@BoibbleicecubebfdiMrexist Greeting the koopa has Mario use a unique animation that calls upon the last npc you talked to for some reason, so by not talking to any or talking to a set few, it doesn't know how to load that info and it crashes
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Oh yeah this is big brain time
Chapter 2 is the most underrated chaperone in the game imo
Agent 005 no.
I don't know why more people won't let chapter 2 watch their kids.
"Can Mario complete Dry Dry Ruins without using any keys?"
*45 seconds in*
"He can."
I miss you stryder
You and I both
same
He’ll be back, one day...
@@caseyhaigh9017
He said there’s a very good chance he won’t be going back to TH-cam, or any social media really, now that he has been focusing on IRL development. So… sorry to burst your bubble.
Dry dry ruins: just get some keys and do some puzzles
Stryder7x: or just don't
I appreciate watching these. must be tons of hours of Work to both acknowledge this info and put it together with tas. then making a video about it
Thanks to everyone involved! Much appreciated!
The key to completing this is not not use keys. W a i t.
Hey I clicked newest first and your the first comment! Good job!
Not not use kehs
What a cool video! I really liked your MS paint creation 1:03. Did you make it for yourself, as like a visualization tool? Or for viewers?
I made it for myself before creating the TAS, just so I knew exactly where to go. It served as a nice visual for this video too though!
This was uploaded 5 minutes ago, how did you comment 21 hours ago?
@@theamazingpoyo9248 Glitch.
@@theamazingpoyo9248 time travel
Frame perfect jumps
Is it possible: Yes!
Is it practical: No!
Does it look cool: YES!!!
I love how these guides are super comprehensive so even people like me who are interested in glitches and sequence breaks but aren't to experienced with them can still watch this video and understand it thoroughly. Awesome work again Stryder and I can't wait to learn more about one of my favorite games ever (still not sure if I like the original better than Thousand-Year Door)
''Touch Loading, Get Clippy!''
An underappreciated Yoshi's Island reference
New intro is amazing. Super upbeat and makes a fun way to enter a video
*So much talking about A presses, I felt like I was watching a pannenkoek video*
The fact there's two different scenes for finding the hammer is kind of mindblowing.
Hi Stryder7x. I just wanted to say that I just LOVE your videos!
I'm still not giving on on ya Stryder! My hopes things are working towards a resolution and that we'll see you on this platform again one day.
The explanation of the glitches in this video were especially thorough which I really appreciate, and the bit at the end about it being nearly impossible is nice too. It's nice to know you're still human! lol Thank you for your fantastic paper mario videos and streams, and the whole community of paper mario wizards
I miss these videos 😢
It's amazing how you are keeping this game alive thanks Stryder
this is like the 40th time i've learned what lzs is and i am living for it
“You can delay the loading zone transition for as long as you need”
How about “as long as you CAN”
Watching you do the TAS work on this run on stream was super interesting, loved it. Glad to see it on YT in its final form!
Stryder7x: Makes a paper mario 64 video.
Me, having never played paper mario 64: wow that's really cool.
This was great! Welcome back, love these challenges!
more TAS streams someday? also nice video :) it's cool to see everything that went into this again!
The new intro is so good! I love your content, keep up the great work.
Always love these. Also nice to see LSZ explained properly. Always had the idea I understood it, but it's cool to have it affirmed
The explanations in this video helped me truly understand some of the glitches after seeing them so often in your videos
It's quite cute this intro, keep up the great job stryder.
I appreciate how much u go into detail on these videos
I love the new intro! And I love all of your vids. Always an amazing watch.
In all my years of playing and loving Paper Mario again and again, it is honestly astonishing to see everything you've unveiled about this game. All its glitches, mechanics, technicalities, and more. Things I simply could not imagine. This is no exception.
Another awesome video as always, Stryder. 👍
I gotta say, i love the new content you put on your channel , and also that new intro ! Cheers mate !
Being able to do keyless Dry Dry Ruins and all of its frame perfect inputs without using TAS DOESN'T crash Paper Mario... but it will crash your sanity
Ok, why is this christopher moon guy commenting on every single video i watch? What. ...
and your buttons and control stick?
This is becoming the new Justin Y. Justin Y got so much hate, so *Y* would you decide to become the new Justin Y?
Love how detailed oriented your explanation and instruction are
Stryder, your obsession with ripping this game to shreds on top of how much you love it is so admirable.
Here we learn how to beat Dry Dry Ruins with at least 93 A-presses.
Your videos are always so awesome and informative! You do such a great job with them! Keep up the great work.
I love how Stryder is like a Paper Mario scientist, he knows a lot about how things work and how it can be broken, exploited and what else can we do with all that info
I admire you, man
hello! i love ur videos! paper mario 64 has been my favourite game basically since it came out when i was a kid and i've been playing it a lot lately to pass time in quarantine. it's so cool to still be learning new things about the game even after all these years & your voice is honestly really relaxing to listen to. thanks for all the great paper mario content & i hope ur doing well! 😊
Loved the video Stryder. I was happy to see the Buzzy Beatle spin taunt in the vid.
I don’t think I’ve ever played a paper Mario game except for one on the Wii but I just adore watching these videos, continue the great work!!
Hats off to explaining clearly and concisely what a TAS is. When I explain to people not into speedrunning the concept of a TAS, I usually get the response of "Hey, that's cheating!" - which is extremely difficult to properly explain away. Great video!
i stopped everything to watch this. love the new intro!
Love the new intro! Keep up the good work!
Bet this took a lot of effort! Thanks for uploading!
Loving the new intro! Great video
Love the new opening. Love your stuff
I’ve always wondered about how repeatedly nailing frame-perfect glitches is possible! Thanks for answering that question 😄
Being totally honest, I've never played Paper Mario 64 and I've only beaten TTYD one time over 8 years ago. However I discovered this channel about 2 weeks ago and I have to say the in depth analysis of mechanics I never even realized were present (as well as the glitch/game breaking videos like this) have really drawn me in. You make some quality content sir, and I look forward to Future uploads
Props to your upload schedule. Nice to see your new intro was not the end of the age.
Stryder makes me simultaneously want to speedrun Paper Mario and realize how much agony that would be to try and get on that level.
2 minutes ago yet here I am. I just love how you format your videos. I’m surprised you have content so much worth and content out of 2 games and they are both some of my favorites of all time.
One of the first streams of yours I ever watched! So that's kinda cool. I found the video very interesting,,
Even though it's painfully obvious performing all of these tricks in sequence is TAS only (for now)... I appreciate you taking the time for newer viewers to clarify just how INSANELY difficult this route is to replicate so streamers don't get bugged with questions like "Hey how come you aren't skipping Dry Dry Ruins with no keys like in Stryder's vid?" It's good to occasionally remind people that if a human actually ever did this legitimate it may as well put them in the Guinness Book of World Records. I feel like with the amount of segmented and TAS runs getting as big as they are, people are starting to forget the difference between RTA and TAS (the more casual viewers that is). If that line gets too blurred I feel it'd desensitize a lot of the newer/less informed viewers to all of the awesome feats that real-time runners do every day. Sorry for the rant haha.
Neat touches like the same angle when changing rooms are somehow too subtle to think about but really obvious and cool when pointed out. It's little bits like that which really show a lot of thought and care went into Paper Mario (even if there are also plenty of wacky bugs and crashes if you know what you're doing.)
The 1000 year old dungeon architect Koopa watching all of his elaborate puzzles get skipped.
Loving the new title sequence!
I always wondered how many of the insane glitches on this channel were TAS vs real-time. Now i know, and i feel at peace.
The OST for Paper Mario is fire
New intro? I like it. Nice job, Stryder!
Get to celebrate my dads birthday with a new Stryder7x video! Wahoo!
Oh my thank you for this birthday gift Stryder!
Must say your new intro looks great!Good job!
So you skipped Chapter 2 to beat it later in a cool way.
I hope we can see more of this with other chapters because this one was very interesting!!
Also the new intro looks great!!!
God I love your content so much Stryder
0:52 The new intro/logo clip is perfect!! X )
It's nice to finally see a normal video again in-between all the stream filler.
"once I explain LZS" implying that hasnt occurred in every other video posted on your channel!! haha, fantastic content, thank you so much, im sure these videos take huge amounts of time to make
I really like how in those kind of videos, the title is always talking about MARIO playing. It makes us feel he's """real""" and I think Mario really deserves a big shoutout for all frame perfect inputs he has done over the last four years.
The players always get credit but the never give mario credit
i love the running joke where everyone who includes a TAS in their video explains what a TAS is for anyone unfamiliar
Next video idea:
Doing everything as intended crashes paper mario
The fact that you can still post quality videos about this game, even though it's been out for almost 20 years, amazes me to no end.
TAS speedruns love this stuff
Love the new intro!
It made me really happy when I knew what LZS was without needing an explanation.
"We're gonna use Lakilester to obtain Clippy"
Lakilester: I see you're trying to glitch the game. Would you like some help with that?
*oh god, anything but him*
I love the new opening!
Loving that new intro man
Wow, i haven't seen anyone comment on this yet, but that new intro is so good! I think it fits your channel very well!
Thanks for this i think im ready for my speedrun
Love the new intro. Not comically sad like the last one.
I just watched the video wherein you demonstrate swinging the hammer on the frame you exit a room. I noticed it here and it’s a nice little treat
Whoa dude, love the new intro :D