Let's Try: Democracy 4! -- My Favorite Government Simulator!
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"Universal basic income! I would LOVE to implement that! Not now though..."
"Yeah, that would be great, right now I mainly care about money and being re-elected, however."
And there we have it, ladies and gentlemen. Modern democracy boiled down to two quotes by Quill18.
It would be interesting if politicians only got one shot, so they were never concerned about reelection. "You've got 5 years, go make it count." Maybe they'd actually get shit done then.
@@styot that would lead to some pretty extreme campaigns I guess, and a very unstable political climate
Do you guys know about Yang?
@@styot this usually ends up leading to "corruption all the way - make sure you get as much money as you can from your term, and secure your financial situation for the rest of your life. Doesn't matter if people will hate you, and consider you the least productive politician ever. You weren't planning to be re-elected anyway."
Also, leads to short-term thinking/planning only.
I have a better idea how to make politicians actually do useful stuff - before they get elected, they'd have to list what they want to accomplish during their term... and they'd only get paid for accomplishing, or at least making measurable progress, towards their listed goals. If they make any promises before the election, they'd HAVE to specify a punishment/consequence of breaking those promises, otherwise the promise would be only empty words. I mean, when a business agreement is made, the sides specify the consequences if one side does not fulfill the agreement - why should it be any different with politicians?
Of course this idea has the disadvantage of being inflexible. The politician would have their entire term planned from the start, and if the situation changes and requires a change of plans (say, an epidemic breaks out and politicians have to react, but none of that was planned before the election) - then by design my idea states the politicians would not get paid for anything they do in response to the new situation, because none of that was planned (i.e. agreed upon with voters) before the election.
Some possible solutions:
- making broad promises accounting for any possible scenario
- making (possibly small/limited) re-elections when the situation changes
- some system to change the terms with voters, where voters agree to change the agreement between them and the politician
@@Tennouseijin Also, a lot of issues can be seemingly "fixed", but only in the short term. The politician would get paid and 5 years later everyone would find out the real costs of "fixing" the problem.
Huh. Interesting... Might have to keep an eye on this.
Nice to see you here. By the way, how are you not verified?
Do it, Pravus ! Imperialism !
You gotta play, man! It's a Pravus classic!
I KEW YOU WOULD BE PLAYING IT
That’s how I got into your channel XD
13:40 - It's no wonder you got confused by the cabinet shuffling. The tooltip literally states the opposite of what it happening.
And not just that, the instruction text in the reshuffle dialog says "select the ministers you want to kick out of their current posts," and upon selecting a minister the text above their portrait switches from "keep" to "fire." I highly suspect the devs intention was for the player to select who to fire and there's a bug that flipped it.
@@Havlock See this is why a Beta is important to fix massive bugs like that
Well, it is in alpha right now. Not a surprise there's blatant bugs like that, though that is a little more blatant than I would expect lol
Yes thanks for the obvious.
@@aturchomicz821 Bugs, or just wrong tooltips/information.
Qwill: Let’s not censor the Internet
Also Qwill: Wiretap everybody.
The Internet is still free though??
It makes sense in a way that he can catch people while committing the offence
@@averestless sure...
@@averestless So its basically entrapmentXD
I mean, your not stopping or punishing people for posting; your just watching everything they do.
"Let's try democracy"
I mean yeah, we definitely should
Or, or and hear me out here, we could... form the first new and safe galactic empire?
Only valid form of government.
Quill: "We need more money! *maxes the slider on every single program he enacts*"
He is a true politition!
To be fair if these programs create growth he should max. When the economy falls and the déficit rises we incrase spending to create growth
@@JohnSmith-gz4fs in certain aspects yes but not everything
@@Perfectkid197 What do you mean?
@@tyler1107 I dont care about deficit and i believe government is more efficient than the free market. So we will have to agree to disagree. Also i believe in funding everything.
You have to remember that the meanings of things like "liberal" are misused often in the USA.
**Leebrul** or Liberal
Yes, liberals in the UK are much further left than liberals in the US
@@skylarmcgee6517 how far left can it get if it is already radical?
"In America, you have a conservative party, and a *very* conservative party."
Disagree. Words can have different meanings in different places that change over time. Otherwise all the Brits would still be speaking the Proto-Germanic language.
Wow this is amazing,did not know it is coming out! Recently (as in last month) watched all your vids about democracy 3, what are the odds
Not as low as you'd think.
@@zaixai9441 not as high as YOU think.
Reshuffle Cabinet: "Select the ministers you want to kick out of their current posts."
Apparently not, huh? The ones you selected to fire were kept, while the ones you selected to keep were fired. Heh, heh. They might want to fix that before the game is released. But it looks interesting. (I never played any of the others.)
That, and make it more obvious you have to scroll down to see all the effects of a policy. At least once Quill didn't scroll to see all the changes.
Oh boy. I still remember being in grade school, being curious about democracy 2, and because of that finding this very channel and subscribing. This was around the time Quill made an England EU4 campaing because it had just released!! Now im in the middle of college. Thank for all the years of content Quill.
Democracy games are heavily biased towards Socialist thinking and therefor their predicted, unsubstantiated outcomes. play this game if you want to be indoctrinated.
@@TheBelrick not really. You can easily make neoliberal economics work in Democracy 3 and higher difficulties basically necessitate austerity measures in the early game or the national debt ruins everything
@@alexb1402 Try making a libertarian state. The game does not allow it.
@@TheBelrick it's probably because the game is about running a government and libertarianism is kinda contrary to the point of the game of putting policies in place
@@TheBelrick And yet the dev is an Economic Liberal... You sure YOU arent biased? :P
3:50 "That's _ludicrous_ "
US National Debt:
*Am* *I* *A* *Joke* *To* *You?*
I hope Quill realises that by raising taxes on alcohol and luxury goods he has just hit his whiskey & chocolate fund ... HARD ;)
When in doubt, legalize everything. Then tax it!
Neoliberalism in a nutshell.
@ It did to the British
@ What an insulting view towards humans. As if we're all kids who need to be controlled because we don't know any better.
@@BiH1980Sana view? that's what happened
@@htf5555 Your solution is to control how people live their life? Humans are thinking animals and removing the ability to think for ourselves is like cutting off a birds wings.
Democracy 3 is my favorite Quill + Essentia content! I hope for some more of it with D4!
that time Briar gave every policeman submachine guns. 10/10 stream.
Yes please. Democracy and Fate of the World.
One thing I would have liked to see from this version is the implementation of some sort of extended development for your country outside of internal affairs. So for example you can build relationships with specific countries and that affects things in certain ways (immigration, religion, war, etc.) and the policies would have more of an effect over just numbers.
Like for example if you run a mars program and your countries technology and education and everything is high enough, then maybe you get a chance to get an event where you’re the first person to send a manned mission to Mars and you get a bunch of bonuses for that. So much potential, like if you’re a primarily goods based economy you could set up export deals with another country in return for cash or something else, being a world leader in scientific innovation could cause other countries to send spies to infiltrate your government or just straight up increase the number of people who come to your country for education, running a country with good health and promoting exercise in schools and things could lead your country to great sporting success in the olympics or other sports which could have some impact on something. Befriend the corrupt leader of an oil rich country to get super cheap oil at the expense of your relationship with others.
I don’t know just something that made you feel like your choices actually had an impact on the greater world more than just the foreign relations bar.
Don’t get me wrong I loved democracy 3 and have put many hours into it. Each play through just got quite stagnant after a few hours so I was hoping for something more from this game. I get it’s still in alpha though so hopefully it becomes a bit more.
(Having now watched the whole video i concede it does seem to be an improvement on the last game, just like a better version with more options and some extra flavour events. So fair play to them. Enough for me to pay for the game? Not so sure.)
"National Team wins the world cup"
Yea right xD
maybe it was scotland or wales that won
Quill: "I just realized I left an extra space in here."
People with OCD: "OH THANK GOD!"
I love how every term the deficit actually goes up but Quill18 says it's not as bad as it was and quickly moves on. Hehehe. Emulating politicians everywhere. Love the content Quill18!
Stil waiting for more of this! I love these games and the series you do with them!
I love how "I need money" was immediately replied with "what do I tax" instead of "where do I cut spending" lmao
And it has no bond options.
Just like our real governments
Unfortunately this start doesn't come with the easy slush fund that is "reducing the usa's military budget" lol
Why lmao? There are very few places where you can cut funding morally and Britain isnt a country thats taxed maximally anyway...
@@aturchomicz821 except the income tax
Screaming at the screen: FREE SCHOOL MEALS
The universal policy!
You guys get school meals?
@@thestudentofficial5483
Well, not anymore since I havnt gone to school since 2000. But yeah, students gets it up until the age of at least 15, and up to the age of 18 (or whenever they finish secondary education) in most cases in my country.
And it's the go-to policy in Democracy 3 for increasing health and lower obesity cheap.
Yes!! Democracy 3 was the first video I ever saw from Quill, almost 8 years ago now.
Hey Quill I really enjoy your context. i went back and watch your early D3 vids
I started watching your videos when I was 15. I'm 24, and the Brussels meme still hits me every time.
So happy this game is finally out, the developer really did a great job! I hope u do a lot of different videos on this game🙏🏻
quill: Its just money, we can just spend more money, we are the government we can just print more right?
me an argentine: cries in spanish :c
At least your not in Venezuela.
Most developped governments can print more money. By that i mean the us and europe who have insanely stable currencies
How to be successful? Plant a liberal in government and start a funeral business.
@@kekistaniattackhelicopter2242 Also works for right wing idiots. 157 000 dead in the us frop corona
@@JohnSmith-gz4fs Agree. Those "protesters" really should start wearing masks. Tho medical expert claim that clumping together to riot helps prevent spread of virus. Don't ask me how that works. I'm not a medical expert.
Also, it's a wild claim that all the corona death is US are right wing or idiots. Great majority of them were just everyday grandmas and granddads. It's not nice to just call them all idiots. Elders can easily die from cold too.
I've played Democracy 3. I didn't realize there was a D4, but if its pre-release that would be why. It's a great way of learning how hard it is for an officeholder to actually change what they ran on changing.
Hey I've always enjoyed your Democracy content, I'm looking forward to you playing more of it!
Glad to see they're finally releasing a new version of the game. Been a fan of the series since I first saw it here almost a decade ago and been wanting a new one forever.
I love democracy, even though I’ve never played it.
MathiasJamesMcD Chancellor Palpatine...
Hey Quill! Love this series, looking forward to seeing the next one!
In Scotland we also have the 10 to 10 law. You can only by alcohol from 10am to 10pm in stores, whereas England is anytime if the store is open!
Sir Humphrey: "Sex is always popular, should we subsidise that too?"
Bernard: "Oh, can we?"
I love yes minister with all my heart. Sad that no one gets the references in Mexico
Sir Humphrey: Yes we can, at the appropriate juncture, in due course, in the fullness of time.
So more prostitutes? Tax break for more sex?
@@Enchie Legalize sex work is an option I saw on this game, probably popular with Liberals
D4 looks and plays way too similar to D3
Thank you - I just got this amazing simulation but I need to READ and watch as many videos as I can it is so complex but I am sure very rewarding once it is fully understood, I am determined 😃
*Cutting edge AAA title showing off a rich storyline, new technology, and tight gameplay* Nah...I'll wait.
*Democracy anything* I NEED IT!
Me: i'm gonna make it great
Also me: national service at periodic level
11:45 "respiratory disease"
it's probably coincidental, but yeah it is nice. Cus it overs stuff like yes, the pandemic, but also stuff like chronic bronchitis etc.
I'd love to see more of this!
28:23 Thats what the Germans said before the price of a loaf of bread ended up in millions of marks lol
Universal Basic Income funded by an Automation Tax. Yang Gang for the win. Also make sure to do all those smaller policies that are positive and don’t have negatives.
Amazing series i can already tell
I would really like to see more of this coming up in the future, with some nice chocolade and whisky
Wow, didn’t even know D4 was a thing.
it isn't, yet.
I'm guessing the *Brussels* Sprouts are pro-EU then :P
@@jeremyalexander135 Also Conservatism*
@@jeremyalexander135 Someone hasn't talked to any outside of their circle.
Firstly, there's nothing wrong about being against immigration, plenty of reasons like asking working & lower middle class people to compete with cheap labour, that's bullshit, also many migrants have the advantage of sending back money where their country's cost of living and currency differences increases the value of their wages much more than here giving them a distinct advantage to the point where undercutting wages is a viable strategy.
And then there's the sovereignty argument, which is why I mostly dislike the EU as being an advocate for Direct Democracy and localism, I find supranational organisations as the EU to be basically an expansion to our already terrible neo-liberal system moving politics even further from people.
Scott Berry To be honest your two arguments are the usual generic arguments for isolationism everywhere, you don’t need to talk to anyone on any side to hear them, they are very accessible and widespread. So the first dude is still kinda right.
@@svenzverg7321 How? Neither are generic, also that's not isolationism, funny enough no-one calls Japan isolated because it has strict rules on immigration, America had stricter rules on Immigration than the UK but somehow the UK is isolationist.
And about sovereignty, the idea that there's only join supranational entity or you're a isolationist is ludicrous.
@@devilmanscott No country is "isolated", strictly speaking, even North Korea. Japan has some isolationist policies, it doesn't mean that the country itself is isolated. Apparently, you have some problem with the word "isolationist", like it's an insult or something, and really want to apply it to countries instead of applying it to policies where it belongs.
"Supranational entity" is a big word and there is a shitton of them. If a country refuse to participate in any of them - that's extremely isolationist policy. If a country leaving some of them - that's an isolationist shift in policy.
What is your problem with the word? You want migrants not competing with citizens for employment and you want to achieve maximum sovereignty over domestic policies. You are isolationist. If you don't want people to put this tag on you, you need to formulate your arguments differently somehow.
I loved 3, I had no idea this was coming out
Can't wait to see you play more of this, and certainly a more nuanced game :)
Am not the only one who sees orange not red? or do I need my eyes testing.
Could be your monitor. On my main monitor it's pretty clearly red, but if I switch to my secondary monitor, it's still mostly red, but maybe a little more orange, so that might be what's up.
For me it's orange, like your profile pic.
I saw red because I’ve played the game before and I’m used to that color, but now that I look again it’s more orange than red on my screen
I saw it as red at first, looked again it was orange, looked again and it was red. Think my eyes are broken.
I don't think its my monitor as the bit at the bottom of videos showing how much you watched is clearly red, but the red bits on the video and my profile pic all look orange to me.
I am due an eye test thou, I do use daek theme alot on programmes rather than the white, but don't see how that could be it.
Yep, USA currently has that same level of debt service. Whenever that cliff hits it gonna be ugly... for everybody.
Every country on this planet is in serious amounts of debt to one and another. It’s not just the US. China, Russia, Brazil, all of Europe, the whole thing is completely in debt. We owe a lot of debt to them and they own a lot of debt to us.
It’s really not as scary as people make it out to be in the political sphere because it isn’t the same as Private debt. It may not be something to not be concern about, but it certainly far from the countdown to doomsday everyone say it is.
Jeremy Alexander Your whole fear mongering here seems to be based on assumption that all private debts _have_ to be paid. This assumption is false.
It usually does not lead to a sharp cliff but rather a protracted economic decline. We're running out of time.
@@Zorro9129 the study which said debt over 60% causes decline was debunked a hundred times over
this looks so awesome! Im going to keep an eye on this game :)
The reshuffle cabinet thing doesn't actually look like it makes sense.
The writing says "Select the ministers you want to *kick out* of their current posts", but you're expected to select ministers to keep.
This looks like D3 with a different UI.
ok buddy
I mean democracy games have always been a UI. Look at the difference between them
@@aturchomicz821 It does, then again it's not finished.
Early acess for a reason, they are still adding content
the main changes behind democracy games have always been under the hood.
PSA: The game is not released, it's in pre early-access. This does not represent the final state of the game.
Very nice game quill!!!
Keep playing it for us please
loved this mate are you carrying out more game play with this ?
"legalizing drugs increases crime"
Literally the opposite of what would actually happen. Like, by definition.
Guess the game considers people that who use drugs will commit crime while on drugs....
Note that it's counting organized crime as an entirely different thing to crime, not a subset of it (though they do interact) And organized crime (which the vast bulk of drug related crime that actually effects anything is, if only barely) goes down a Lot.
Also, I'm pretty sure lowering organized crime has a knock on effect of, also lowering regular crime, or at least it did in earlier versions. The web can get complicated like that.
I live in Alaska and crime related to marijuana has increased, even though we legalized it a couple years ago. More people are able to grow it now but still want to avoid taxes, and WAY more people and carrying more than they should and under the influence while driving. It's funny how that happened.
@@nathanasimpson Well just get rid of the maximum amount, and allow growing
@@magnus5155 Maximum amount? You mean like reduce limitations on growing?
Love democracy 3, but d4 looks like a d3 reskin with all dlc's and a couple more policies. Hope they improve the game more after release.(i also prefer the old aesthetic, seemed cleaner not as blocky)
There's a few mechanics changes too, like coalition governments.
Yeah, a little disappointed that it looks like a rehash of the same game. Hopefully they have made some significant improvements though. I was really hoping for an option to start off in opposition and win your first election from there, that would be cool.
They really didnt add enough content to call it a new game.
Didn't even know 4 was in the works, love the changes seems to make it easier to find the important info, fun I've had with 2.3 and africa will get this when it releases
Never heard of this game before in my life. Now that Quill is playing it, take my money Democracy
I assume Liberalism in this game is the standard ideology and not the modern liberalism that can be seen in the US?
The appearance of a frumpy blue haired woman leads me to believe the opposite, but here's praying.
In the previous game it was used as the opposite of conservative where conservatives will love your police state that can crack hard down on crime, while liberals they want everything to be legal with no surveillance.
but then because there is no more crime everyone will convert to liberals and hate your CCTV, ID cards, police drones and curfews.
I hope. How we in the US use the terms is fucking stupid and it was dumb they used it for the previous title.
@@jeremyalexander135 yeah wtf
@@jeremyalexander135 The OG classical liberals were to the right of even American Republicans. Politics has gone left, hence the phrase, "Cthulu only swims left."
keep in mind that since you're playing the UK "internet crime" is when you make an offensive meme and then get arrested and thrown in prison lol
ok?
That is quite rare. It is more about hacking, Roberry etc
@@JohnSmith-gz4fs Yeah the game probably means dark web related stuff/drug trading etc but considering people have actually been arrested for memes and even song lyrics, people are naturally gonna joke about that too.
@@Admiral_Jezza fair enough
Looks interesting, I hope to see more in the future.
Didnt even know Democracy 4 was out but you guys playing Democracy 3 WAS AWESOME, and nome Democracy 4!!!
I'm a bit confused... at 10:38 where's male genital mutilation?
not a popular enough political talking point to put it in the game
you know, the usual: nobody gives a shit if men are hurt.
Because no one cares about it sadly. And bringing it up somehow marginalizes women, despite it being hundreds of times less likely to happen to them. What I'm confused about is why banning FGM upsets conservatives. It should be upsetting muslim since they're the main practitioners of it in the UK and other parts of the world
@@McGrewer I notice they have an 'equality' measure .... I'm still looking for the soy or woke measure.
Not sure why it improves gender equality, seeing as how circumcision is still legal.
Didn't actually expect to get replies to this.
I hope the typical youtube commenters won't turn the conversation bad I don't wanna be booted out of Quill's place.
why would the conservatives be against fgm ban if anything it would be the other way around it really seems like they just picked up the policies from 3 and africa and just put them in the same game without thinking about context or if it makes sense
no not really?
The conservatives don't want to be viewed as racist.
atur chomicz how ??
They mix normal conservatives with the islamic conservative who support fgm
Yeah that didn't make sense, it would make more sense if they put religious (Islamic) and ethnic minorities instead.
I love how you have quotes at the bottom by modern politicians, its a cool touch!
Your first act as PM was to make a oversight and fire the best ministers you had and keep the worst ones. Absolutely realistic tbh.
This just looks like Democracy 3 with a new UI layout. Bit of a dissapointment judging by this video. :(
Democracy didnt actually change alot through the installements. Its a shame, really. Hopefully some more changes will be added. Maybe Promises that can be made and need to be fullfilled after the election?
Yeah, they are basicly reselling the same game over and over again without adding too much. Pretty lazy tbh. This game could be so much better
So if I wanted to buy democracy without having played the previous ones. Do I buy Democracy 4 or an older one?
@@Spider-Man62 No Idea. If you want to play soon, go buy Nr 3, should be pretty cheap. Otherwise wait till more information on D4 is out.
It's in its alpha stage right now, so that's not that surprising. I really hope they add more complexity to the system.
Need people working, invest in the Green Jobs Initiative :)
no :)
nah :)
Well didn't see that coming!
All hail Quill!
The first thing I changed in every Democracy 3 game was tanking up the spending for the waste collection. After a few rounds it was less expensive than at the beginning of the game.
16:21 "We're a draconian, authoritarian, horrible state"
Sooooo, basically just England, yes?
England is normally the most Liberal in the UK, Scotland is debating over a speech laws, the concept of speech laws in England is seen as authoritarian.
if you think England is bad wait till you meet China
The UK is one step behind China, and the U.S. is one step behind the UK.
@@Zorro9129 The UK and US are both more like 5 or 10 steps behind China. China in the modern world is a uniquely authoritarian government, it has its own suite of sole government-controlled CCTV camera networks that feed into facial recognition software, and an economy while being capitalist still being completely surrendered to the will of the central government, that is something we in the west won't have to worry about for at least another decade.
@@bearcatben4762 China relies more on "hard power" while the western power structure leans heavily on "soft power." People are wary about such things as social credit being implemented by their governments, which is why corporations are doing it instead: th-cam.com/video/2ipvlumkVpo/w-d-xo.html
Send a copy to Trump. Judging by his recent pronouncements he appears to have forgotten when elections are supposed to take place.
ahh if only...
From what I remember of Democracy 3, getting rid of the alcohol abuse crisis is almost impossible in the UK because they have a high baseline alcohol consumption metric that's invisible to the player.
D: too real
Alcohol tax, 75%. Problem solved.
Install a mod. Prohibition
I played the 3rd and the Africa version so much. I'm really happy to see a 4th one.
Never tried the Africa version because I'm not that good at Dem 3. Would you still recommend it?
@@andrewlentner yep, the scenarios are pretty nice.
@@andrewlentner and it's lot harder
What I'm confused about is why banning FGM upsets conservatives. It should be upsetting muslim since they're the main practitioners of it in the UK and other parts of the world
ok??
Blah nanny state
Conservatives don't like the government interfering in religious practises. And you can be religious conservative or non-religious conservative. Liberal/Conservative divide here is different than the real world divide because each group in Democracy 4 is supposed to be non-overlapping. So you can have non-capitalist conservatives, even if most real-life conservatives are capitalists.
Muslims are on average significantly more conservative than the average westerner
And if you would have to describe someone who clings to arguably outdated traditions and customs, because that is the way that it has always been done, what is the first word that comes to mind?
Do a libertarian playthrought
Drug Policy: Legalize everything. (offset by supporting rehab clinics)
Then do a balanced budget change. If you start in the US, you can mostly get there by cutting the military budget, at least in Dem3.
its a game about government so you can't really make a real night watchmen type state just a state that's a bit more economic right and social left
what you need to start with is food stamp, business start-up campaign and free school lunch, then save up for rural development, and introducing the small business grant. afterwards try to increase tax, suggest adding the flat income tax around 15-40%, percentage determined by how much you need. When the income is secured, save some money to lower the tax, introduce tech grant and tech collage at that time. also increase spending on traffic or there will be problems. Impress the people if you can
Yooo! Didn’t realize D4 was coming out! HYPE
You know... If they put Hong Kong in this game...
They wouldn't dare go against big daddy China and their Winnie the Pooh dictator. But if they did, I would respect them immensely and buy the game just to support them.
That would be like putting Palestine in the game. It’s not something I would like to see whitewash of its complexities.
Didn't knew the 4th one is coming. Really liked the 3rd one
Hi I’m new to your channel and I’ve been liking what I’m seeing so far 👍 Also I was wondering if your ever gonna do civilization again I am getting it and the expansions next week Friday on ps4 I loved your series. You’ve earned a new sub.
Civ-Lets plays come quite frequently to the channel, so stay tuned!
Jeremy Alexander I know that. What’s your point. It’s just a compliment don’t take it to far. I’ll remove it if it makes you happy.
Blackjack159 thx for letting me know!
oh wow i am very excited for this game
Every time you try to fix something you tell people what they cannot do and then tax them. Or start a campaign that cost more money. Start education up and legalize drugs(and tax them heavy), then work on making money and jobs. And stop the security, police state scheme.(CCTV and scans and etc.)(Just get it to a level that keeps people safe and; then live and let live.). Pump money into making money and getting rid of debt. So your dollars start to actually matter. (You could cure world hunger and the debt would negate it.) Just my opinion. Thanks for introducing me to this game, btw.
I cant wait for this to come out i loved democracy 3 and this is basically that but designed better and more things to do
I played so much Democracy 3 but it started feeling outdated - and to some degree, I wish some mechanical changes were made, too - so I'm very excited to see what Democracy 4 has in store.
Just looks like D3 with better UI though...
@@joluoto I disagree. While the fundamentals are the same, there are already some mechanical changes I can see from a glance, such as the variable Political Capital cost for changing policies (it was fixed in D3) and the multiple opposition parties system (in D3 it was always two parties). Not to menton new policies, issues, etc. introduced and the rebalancing of numbers in general.
Regardless of if you consider the changes big or small, worthy of a new game or not, etc. they are clearly more than just UI improvements.
This is also early access so they might, and likely will, add more.
FUCKING FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR HALF A DECADE FOR THIS
Democracy 4 is coming out, brilliant can't wait for the final release!
Scotland also has minimum alcohol pricing per unit too, and bans on many forms of deals. (You can still sell alcohol cheaper than usual so long as it's above the minimum price per unit, but you can't do buy one get one free etc)
What ends up happening is instead of having a lot of drunks you have a lot of poorer drunks.
There are definitely issues around that, and the middle class drunkards are definitely not hit, but it does bring the minimum floor up on stuff like White Lightning and other cheap ciders etc which are sometimes cheaper than Coca Cola.
It's not a perfect system, but what is.
3:51 I dunno if you ever played that way, but in Democracy 3 you could very successfully ignore money altogether. You cannot ever run out of money and crashing the GDP gives you a negative effect but all your government programs more than offset it. I was the lowest rating possible (I think its only D or so), constantly had random events about how bad my GDP is, but I basically eliminated poverty and crime in my country and had a gigantic plus on healthcare and education.
Ooh, I want more of this...
I had to check the website after just the start of this vid and seeing that they're doing more than the two party system was my main concern from previous games.
I've played a lot of democracy 3 I can't wait for 4.
I like this! I want it when it comes out.
A great way to win in Democracy 3 was to implement a flat tax of around 30% in the second turn. After that you have all the money you need to spend max on health, crime, education, development etc. Usually by the end of the first 4 years you were popular enough to win and then you got massive economic growth which guaranteed re-election forever. Worked around 70% of the time.
Quill18 for benevolent ruler of World 2021 (because obviously it's gonna be a better year, obviously)
I was just pleading for a Democracy 4 what feels like last week!
Can't believe I'm being recommended a quill18 video after maybe 5 years...
6:10 That must be a bug. It clearly says FIRE above the ones selected and KEEP above the ones not selected. Also, from a design perspective it has to be select to fire because firing is the affirmative action; keeping is the passive action. However, this "bug" may at times accurately simulate real life cabinet reshuffles.
While obviously I haven't played Democracy 4, it not being out yet, based on past Democracy games, it's a good idea look for inexpensive policies (both moneywise and influencewise) that have even decent positive effects at the very start of the game, and implement them at the very start - I know you did find and implement some as you went, but it's often a good idea to look at the policy lists at the start and see what they all do. Anything that boosts literacy, GDP, health, etc, is often worth implementing, as the longer-term economic benefits will more than pay for it.
Also, check your current programs and see if you like the settings, whether it might be worth increasing/decreasing the sliders. Admittedly, watching you check a few dozen policies/policy settings just to see how might not make the best TH-cam viewing.