Democracy 4 - Playing as Canada, Fresh out of Early Access! - Pt 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2022
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"imagine living in a two party system" indeed, the horror.
"I'm going to play as Canada, because I'm Canadian! So we're going to see what that's all ABOOOOOT!"
USA's servent
Great content again, thank you!
As someone who's played Democracy 3 though: Would you like going over some of the changes between versions in another video? Donors, for example, are entirely new, if I'm not mistaken - as well as specific subtleties of public perception!
Lots of bot accounts replying to that crypto comment, huh? Anyway, glad to see another democracy playthrough Quill. :)
Woo! Didn't realize how much I've wanted a new Democracy run till I saw this~ Great timeing~
Glad to see Boris Johnson as your Law and Order Minister LOLLL
I did a UK playthrough where I was the UFP, and my oppositions were the Dominion and the Romulan Star Empire
Love the Democracy games, will really enjoy your play through with this game.
thanks so much for the fast paced review truely a blessing
Thanks Quill for the awesome content!
So looking forward to this series! Quill you legend! 🤘🏻🐻
Nice DS9 reference
I love seeing you play this game - especially with Essentia XD
I see how it is, they offered you a promotional deal so you would hold off on your scathing review!
Joke aside, love these games. Loved every single instance of you playing it!
...because in a Science party, we got chemistry!
Quill, been watching you for an incredibly long time and just felt like I had to let you know I am still loving your content. I'll make sure and go sub again to your twitch.
Thanks for all the fish!
14:31 disposable income is what you were looking for.
Why would high tobacco tax make EVERYONE unhappy? That makes zero sense.
Agreed... That's odd.
the actual effect of it is scaled by the value of tobacco usage. Its done this way because smokers (like drinkers) are not a distinct group in the game.
"diversity? uhhh sure... Canada has some issues"
I might've chuckled but this is sadly true
I love this game, thank's Quill
Love this game! More videos please
As for EU4 and others, this is the kind of game I love watching Quill play but I would never dare to play myself :D TBF the fact that my country (Italy) is available is tempting...
this reminds me a bit of Chris Crawford and his game Balance of the Planet (which I've read about but not played). from what I've read it was of a similar genre where it's a simulation that consists of a ton of sliders that all relate to each other in realistic ways, and the crux of the game is to keep things balanced (can't go into too much detail since haven't played).
Finally. Hated when you left it hanging last time
15:11 Now THAT's a cool datum. Wether the policy is good runs into Rule Of Cautious Commenting Judgement
Hell yas! I just got the note, gonna wait for you to check it out and also a sale.
This game is a game-changer, it's like going inside the minds of our heads of state and seeing what matters to them. Like looking through the looking glass, gives one a different perception on what factors end up deciding policy and agendas.
To me what seems to matters the most is imagery and most importantly winning the next election, The basis fundamentally
of winners and losers and don't forget the joker!
Namaste
yay Dem 4. Haven't played it in several months, now I have an excuse to get back into it.
As someone who owned Democracy 3 I want to see some of the major changes between this version and others if possible. I like having a new democracy game but if I feel like its just a reskin of the previous version with little changes then I don't have much reason to buy it.
I've been playing and following Democracy 4 since the early release version first came out, and the changes are honestly too many to list. Rest assured that it will feel different and improved in many ways from previous Democracy games, while generally keeping the mechanics that made them great in place.
To go over some of the most important changes, I'll divide them into two parts. First, there's some obvious, visible changes. There's more countries, a lot more policies, situations (blue circles) and dilemmas than before, the ability to have 3 parties instead of just 2 (which changes some of the voter math, meaning you have to adjust as well), voter behaviour is more realistic now, the UI has been revamped to showcase a lot more information (and in a better way) than before - my favourite is that you can right click on any policy effect to see a graph of possible changes now! - and its just in general a lot easier to navigate the interface and get the information that you want.
But the more important changes in my opinion are actually behind the scenes. The game's math has been completely revamped. In previous Democracy games, policy changes were linear. However, the game now uses quadratic functions to simulate the fact that in reality, policy changes have different effects when implemented at different levels. For example, increasing police funding by 20% from 0 to 20 will have different impacts than raising it 20% from 80 to 100. This was not the case in previous Democracy games. Another new thing is that policy effects can now scale based on other policies/situations. For example, a high petrol tax reduces car usage, but this is scaled by electric car adoption in your country, so if you have a lot of electric cars, petrol tax will no longer reduce car usage, for obvious reasons. Again, this was not the case in previous Democracy games, where the only things that were scaled were tax incomes/expenditures. Lastly, effects now undergo mathematical normalization, which, to put it simply, adds more long-term challenge to the game. Its much harder to max out GDP or education, or completely eliminate unemployment now - you have to put a lot more effort in to do it, and extends the longevity of playthroughs. All of this makes for much better gameplay IMO.
Is it perfect? No, there are still some issues in terms of dubious policy effects here and there, but that's kind of a given considering its still just one guy essentially making this game like before. But I would say overall its definitely a 9/10, and well worth the new buy, especially if you're a Democracy veteran.
@@andrei1231 I bought it and it feels exactly like playing Democracy 3 a second time
There ain't no party like a science party, cause in a science party everyone's a genius!
Canadians aren't dense. Got it quill.
Part 2,3,4,5,6 when? ;) I've been waiting for over a year for Quill to play this game!
issue I've always had with these games is you could reduce defense spending and have no real issues outside of politics... as nice as that is its hardly realistic... a nice foreign affairs side of things would be nice
Costa Rica has no military. None. It depends on the country, but it can be done.
@@simonlynch4204
That is because they wouldn't be able to raise a large enough army to matter. They just rely on American protection and having a military themselves would make 0 difference. In a world without America, Costa Rica wouldn't even exist as a sovereign nation.
Yeah nah your just too Nationalist
@@aturchomicz821
And you seem to ignore the last 5000 years of history.
From your car rant i think you would enjoy the channel Not Just Bikes
Canada: Make nukes great again. Just like in HOI 4. We have the greatest nukes. The best nukes. Just ask any one. Truly the best nukes ever.
does the game crash on mac like masters of the world?
Transit is Very Good in the Vancouver Metro Area But it is no where near the size of Toronto
15:00 New Zealand Represent :D
they should have Athens too! the creators off democracy..
Watch out for the Jem'Hadar
what does the stars below each country mean? USA and Germany have one star,while canada,japan,italy have four stars.Does it represent difficulty or what??
You should be the Quillessentialists again! Lol
The only thing I don’t like about this game is it doesn’t take into consideration negative unintended consequences of laws and/or regulations. Like even those with the best of intentions has cascading rippling effects through society and the market and often makes the very things they were set out to fix exponentially worse. 🤷🏼♂️
Finally!!
it is time to get the robot supported green eco authoritarian state of quebec going
Suggesting laws to ban protests like he's playing UK lmao
I have a question, do you know the game Orbi Universo, it looks to me as a hidden gem? It's made by a Japanese developer but probably due language problems not promoted on internet. With it's very sober chematic game world it's a kind of Democracy 4 game, a mix between Democracy 4 and Civilization. There are allmost no video's on TH-cam for that game and not one good game video is in english. I like to know if you lknow that Orbi Universo exist and in early access available on Steam and if you like ik to make some video's about that game too?
Hey I just moved to Kingston ontario from Edmonton Alberta
Ain’t no party like a science party cause quantum anything don’t stop
26:20 Judo event inspired by Putin probably
Quill: "wouldn't it be terrible to live in a country with only two parties"
Me: *loudly wailing*
Yes, Canada has 3 major parties. Those being the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Bloc Quebecois. Those are the 3 largest parties in Parliament by seat count.
4. There's the New Democratic Party as well.
@@Arkiasis
The joke was that they aren't in the top 3 parties and wouldn't be recognized by this game.
Quill signing in the National Business Council on turn one while I have never used it in my over 100 hours of play time sure is something huh🤔
Yay!
Omg yes!!
Montreal isn't bad if you don't have a car
Nor is Toronto... much as we like to complain about the local services.
Why is Boris Johnson one of your ministers...
In what way is this an improvement over democracy 3 that justifies selling it as a new game.
something I always wondered about this game: are the % stats of liberals/Democrats/Republicans/etc that you start off with for a country roughly accurate for that country irl?
I think it is but they all are not on the same year.
so one nation starting population % liberals/Democrats/Republicans/etc could be the 2016 election but the pop census could be the 2010 one.
another nation political split could be the 2010 election and the census from 2010.
but if I recall for the most part somewhat acruracte maybe some nudging for some parties numbers.
exaple a nation having 90% social might be nudged down to 60%.
It really isnt and it never was cause a Single Programmer can only do so much
Cant wait to watch guilbault handle the petrol politics he s not a greenpeace anymore lol.And for the fact Canada is empty well we already having some issues with the USA imagine if we were lets say 150 millions citizens it would be a constant conflict bc of the competition curious to hear what you have to say about that lol.
1:39 Because I'm Canadian! And I thought that might be fun to talk ABOOT
TL;DR. Even though you can technically do anything you want, are the consequences of what you do negative if you are not woke?
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Not a big gamer and coming from only a Civ background, I just found out about this series today and am excited about it. I liked that the official verbiage about the game says that it is supposedly free from political bias; I think it should be so that everyone can play and enjoy themselves.
However, after watching a few video reviews and reading several written reviews of it on the Steam page., the most concerning criticism I saw was that players were saying that even though it's true that technically, you can do anything in your government that you want, ultimately, the fallout will be in line with how woke you were or not, and that ultimately, woke policies win and non-woke policies have damning consequences and most times, glaringly so. Which is true- what the developers say or how the game actually plays out?
DS9 ftw! And the game is awesome, too, I suppose.🤔😋
lets go
when you can play as Sweden :D
You cant
@@aturchomicz821 not without a mod.. I know
The words you are looking for are disposable income :)
Love seeing Quill play this, but the weird caricature style of the ministers' portraits is hard to look at. It's like the uncanny valley.
Is Brad the gargoyle coming back?
This was a fun game. I never played any of the earlier versions, but I got this one when it was first released in early access. I'm not sure what was "early" about it, though. It seemed to be complete to me.
I played two countries - the United States and United Kingdom - and both went great. But is there really that much replay value? I don't know. I'd had enough after two very fun play-throughs. But maybe it's time to try it again. After all, I'm not sure how much longer democracy is going to _last_ here in the USA. :(
Thanks for the video, Quill.
I like how there's 100% innate socialism and 100% innate liberalism: socialism + liberalism = social liberalism
I really want Zimbabwe
Hyyyype!
Just started playing democracy 4 as Canada and I turned it into a nationalists technocrasy thats also a dictatorship
I there any meaningful difference between the different versions of these games, it essentially looks no different than any of the previous 3 games as a casual observer?
"Another example here is respiratory disease. No not THAT respiratory disease."
Lol. As someone with THAT respiratory disease I found that way too funny
3:54 as a non-boolean American voter... ouch.
The people are getting a bit cranky.
This is exactly how I imagine politics in Canada
I helped africa to have lots of water
This game looks great and all but why do all the cabinet members look like NFTs?
Where’s the way to apply for Quebec independence referendum?
Moar
TIL Quill is canadian
Quill18 is mad he is not a minority in his own country. Wow
Starting with 69% Christian, Nice.
Imagine playing a game called democracy and choosing to play as canada 😂😭
Can u do a a evoultion capitalist long run and pay off the det all in any country and maybe be very rich and green like 99% exports and all green energy and low taxes if that's all possible!
No
@@aturchomicz821 y not
@@sebseb1234567890 not possible to have a rich green debt free capitalist state
@@MomopilotCool well det free diff possible iv done it after like 3 to 8 elections and full capitalist and full evolution vs religious but problem keep getting is housing bubble but I hate rent control and goverment housing, I'd like just empty house tax or tax for owning more then one house bur never saw those options on democracy 3
Does this game have a bias?
This comment section is pretty weird ngl
As in?
@@aturchomicz821 Theres like a bitcoin conference that went on if you scroll down a bit...why on earth under a quill's video and even if its a scam or wtv WHY HERE?
@@alexandrep.-morin3897 TH-cam scam bots aren't very Intelligent, That's why.
Can your character wear blackface and grope reporters in this game?
#100PctRealismMod
What is wrong with you?
@@aturchomicz821 Turdeau
@@aturchomicz821 It's a reference to an IRL Scandal in Canada that happened with Prime Minister JT.
Playing this game for an audience is an absolute minefield, one wrong choice and your comment section becomes the Ukrainian border
you say that urban canada isnt dense, this is a misconception. Toronto for example easily as dense as any american city, showing to just how incredibly dense the average toronto resident is.
I disagree. We Americans are _far_ more dense than Canadians. :)
He was comparing Canada to Western Europe, not the US. Plus, if you look at the number of people compared to the land mass, Canada is in the bottom 10 for countries by density.
@@LifeUntilLove sorry you missed it but this was a joke, read it again slowly.
Delete diversity from that description lol
Patriots are xenopobic? Didnt know loving your country was a bad thing!
I mean, it's a silly word that is hard to define, but at least in the US it's heavily adopted by people who at least claim to have nationalistic and/or conservative values. Which is why I guess those have been lumped together, even if it's more complex than that. So if we go by that, then feeling pride and having a sense of ownership over a thing or a place, or wanting to conserve social and political values, tends to make people a bit (or a lot) more wary whenever other people who don't share your religion, skin color, social status, culture etc get too close.
It is quite a bad thing, yes
What does xenophobia has to do with loving one's country? In your two sentences you mixed two things that are not connected. Are patriots xenophobes? Yes. Do patriots love love their country? Yes. Where and how you made your logical leap between the two sentences and understood it as patriots=bad, I don't know.
@@Wustenfuchs109 Being a Patriot does not mean you are a xenophobe is what im getting at. Im a Patriot and I dont hate anyone, I just love my country and have served for my country.
@@heinz5714 What you thought you were getting at and what you actually said, are quite different, you equated yourself something that no one stated, meaning you yourself make a connection between the two.
Also, two things, no true patriot ever said that for themselves and no man declaring themselves a patriot was xenophile - every single one was a latent xenophobe.
That's just the multi-decade experience with patriots talking. I don't claim to know every single patriot in the world, but every single one I know (around 100 or so), usually claim they are not xenophobes until they are in a situation where they reveal to actually be one.
Take it as you wish.
It is true that by definition it does not have to be, semantically... but for some reason, in practice, it always goes hand in hand. What differs is a degree of xenophobia - but it is always there.
Canada is only 1 percent Muslim that's surprising to me
90% liberal ok this isn't reality
@@jevonjames3241 ?
@@aturchomicz821 I thought democracy started out with actual stats and then let you sandbox around I'm pretty sure those aren't real though