I think according to the rules, you cannot have an assistant backstage if i recall correctly. But tech to aid him is likely, but it would have been self-contained, like speech to text algorithm of sorts.
Most old books are on searchable pdf, hence any book would have been OK to choose. It takes less than 10uS to do a search for a specific word pattern. Hence some computer aided assistance is used. The assistant can only transmit info electronically, or low frequency acoustic if someone is hiding under the nearest table. The assistant could be a female and petite, could easily fit under that table.The rest is the way you described it - he hid the card under the notebook etc..
As i wrote in another comment: It's not the answer since even if he did somehow have someone backstage (which I doubt the producers would allow), there could be multiple instances of two words beginning with those letters and that amount. He wouldn't risk coming into the trick with no knowledge that there wouldn't be multiple instances of those combinations. She could have chosen a book with 2000 pages making it even more likely that there could be. And then he would have to stand there continually guessing going through each one looking like an idiot.
Nice theory, but we don't see any earpiece or electronics on him. How did the person in the backstage gave him the words? What if she had taken an extremely rare book or an academic book? Or if there is more than one combination with the first and last words (in case he needs to ask more questions)?
Magicians earpieces are extremely tiny, so I think that could br possible. About the books, he could have told her to bring known books for better interpretation. If this is not the secret then we have a new routine hahaha. Thank you 😊
The magician works for Google and practically every[!] book ever published is scanned into books.google.[com]. Just to be safe, the magician had Alison bring several books, and he picked one from her books. The offstage assistant then searched the book for two words together of the correct number of letters (using wildcard search, "????? ???????", where each question mark means one unknown letter). The offstage assistant relays the suspected word pair via hidden electronic device. The magician pulls out the P for Penguin card, from his deck of cards, and asks if the first word starts with P. She confirms it does, so he knows he has the right word pair. If she said it doesn't start with P, he would have said "Yeah, I knew it wasn't Penguin" and then he would have moved on to the next word pair. He asked her to pick two longs words together reduce the number of possible matches.
Your hypothesis is correct. There is a method for searching in text called regular expression this helps to implement very efficient algorithms to find almost anything with any combination of information you have. For this case searching for words with certain number of letters and starting with specific characters in a certain part of a book is very easy for the hand he had out of the stage.
I know regex. It's still not the answer since even if he did somehow have someone backstage (which I doubt the producers would allow), there could be multiple instances of two words beginning with those letters and that amount. He wouldn't risk coming into the trick with no knowledge that there wouldn't be multiple instances of those combinations. She could have chosen a book with 2000 pages making it even more likely that there could be. And then he would have to stand there continually guessing going through each one looking like an idiot. That's not the answer.
@@stu5804at 3:19 he explained that the magician asked Allison what's the 1st letter of the word is and that can help narrow down the selection. If there's still ambiguity he can just ask for the last letter of the 1st word and so on though I think that's more than enough. I also think that no one would bring a 2000 page book with them when asked to bring some books with them for a magic trick. The magician also was the one who selected the book for the trick.
@@stu5804 meepoop is wrong about the regex because you wouldn't use regex for this trick, that would be slower and more complicated then necessary. You'd just loop through all words and check which two consecutive words are of lengths (7, 6). > "And then he would have to stand there continually guessing going through each one looking like an idiot." The crucial tip here is binary search. As a very prolific researcher at MIT, and an engineer at Google, he's surely aware of this algorithm. So you can easily do some math on combinations of English words of consecutive length (7, 6). The longest book ever written (Except for e.g. Encyclopedias), would be Les Mis at 600k words. He specifically asked for _two long words_, of which we can do simple math on frequency of
Talking about playing this with his kids threw me off, because I was no longer expecting a confederate backstage. You don’t have any help at home. He got me.
Back stage / Hidden Assistant help is definitely allowed and has been done many times and even pointed out by Penn (i.e. Angela Funovits' assistant hiding in the table)
Am i the only one who sees the thicknesse of the first alphabetical cards on his right hand... it look like a cellphone... and knowing what u try to prove what a nice sleight of hand.... can u try to reveal the randy 1million challenge of seth( for me the first trick is a simple heartbeat monitor, the second is a simple share screen with a connecting device to send enough data to make the thing ,shoe vibration potentially) morse code probably....for the last one .... no clues ... hope u will answer ❤
Why cant he simply get a high quality shot of page with some hidden cam in set and read text via optical character recognition. The technology for such task exists now.
He did his thesis at MIT on emotion patterns, how they affect and influence thought processes, and vice-versa. One such publication was a study on group communication w/ single-bit protocol analyzing how participants can communicate complex conversation w/ 1 bit. Pretty certain he combined a number of these ideas along with research from others who were studying neuroscience at the media lab while he was working as a research assistant. For one part of his joke win of James Randi's $1mil paranormal challenge, it definitely feels like he's using ideas stemmed from his starfish publication.
And so what? Because he has studied neuroscience or whatever you suppose he must have known or should know because labs and Mit and science, then he must be able to deduce a 10 and a 6-letter word by seeing how much Alisson moves his eyebrows? Please! Don't be so naive, either he received information from behind the scenes or he was in cahoots with Alisson and with the cards he showed her and the answers she gave him she was giving him the information he needed and Alisson exactly how to do that, they had a code that he made Alisson learn. "Elephant - Waffles or pancakes?" ?????? It made no sense at all and she answered it in less than 1 second. Take off the pillow from your face.
@@ecastag (response inline) > And so what? Because he has studied neuroscience or whatever you suppose he must have known or should know because labs and Mit and science, then he must be able to deduce a 10 and a 6-letter word by seeing how much Alisson moves his eyebrows? Um, Yes?...but not completely, because there's a whole other sentence that you seem to have generalized over when resurrecting a 1 year old thread. (There's _only_ 4 of them, so it's pretty surprising that you missed it). As a social species, being around like-minds working towards a greater goal which usually brings out unique ideas..which can be actionable. You've probably never been on a team of researchers or amongst other creatives which is why you under-value that experience. So no, not because "labs and Mit and science" as you suggest, but because "ideas", "collaboration", and "sharing". (Ironically, experience would tell anyone that they're the same, but in your example you clearly consider them different). You know...hippie sh*t (censoring myself because you might be underage), because we're social beings that benefit from being around similar minds. > Please! Don't be so naive, either he received information from behind the scenes or he was in cahoots with Alisson and with the cards he showed her and the answers she gave him she was giving him the information he needed and Alisson exactly how to do that, they had a code that he made Alisson learn. Do you always believe that people in the content you consume are conspiring against you, violating the rules of the game that's laid out plainly in the premise? I'm not sure why you're accusing Seth Raphael of cheating, but this must be a pattern that you follow when you "feel" tricked by people. You should definitely understand the context of what you're watching before jumping to conclusions. > "Elephant - Waffles or pancakes?" ?????? It made no sense at all and she answered it in less than 1 second. Are you really suggesting that you (personally) need more than a second to answer whether you prefer waffles or pancakes? That's something you figure out when you're much younger, yo. If you're ever a teen, and you still don't know whether you prefer waffles or pancakes you should probably quit the internet for a bit and figure that out. (Do people like not have a favorite food where you come from?) > Take off the pillow from your face. Not sure what that means in this context, are you suggesting that I'm suffocating myself? What does a pillow being on someone's face have to do with your accuasations? Your suggestion isn't even a common saying?? Are you sure you're on the right thread?
It was clearly fed to him. Nothing against the dude's accolades and such, but this is purely a trick and not him emotionally solving people with MIT skills.
@@Great-FOXX OP doesn't claim MIT skills, accolades, or the like.. Rather, training, experience, and inspiration (as noted in OP and contents of 1st flame). It's absurd to think that creatives don't use their experiences when crafting...You can observe the effects of this history by checking out his patents, even. With regards to FU, however, there are rules... but you already knew that, hence your resurrection of a dead thread.
Yeah he definitely used a phone, it's so easy to see as well. besides what was the yellow buzzer doing on Alisons table???? it's an ocr scanner that scans the book, thats why he asked Alison to move the other book away as to not confuse it.
@@randysager3660 Show me the rules that say that? There's been several electronic tricks used on that show previously. Please show me the rules that say you can't?
@@daz1169 Off. Stage assistance using electronics is not allowed. In other words a living person is not allowed to feed information to to the performer. That is absolute fact.
@@randysager3660 Prove that 'it's absolute fact' with a link to the rules then? You saying it's absolute fact doesn't make it so. There's lot's of tricks on the show where a live person feeds information to the performer, you can find them on youtube.
this whole "storytelling" mentalism thing is fascinating to me. It can't all be about a dude in the back room with a computer. James Randi did it and from what I could gather, there didn't seem to be someone sending him a word from a hidden device or earpiece. There's also another penn and teller where the dude had the word hidden in a jar.... so seemed to be some sort of force.
Not a force since book was completely random from the start. The jar/envelope trick I'm not sure how it's done but P&T always refer to it as the "impossible location" trick. I don't think a variation of it is used here or they would have said.
Not only is your theory incorrect, even the simple things that aren't tricks you got wrong lol. She brought 4 books, not 3. The first letter of the first word she chose was P, not D. And a midget could fit behind that table so even your presumption for that is wrong.
I don't believe your explanation. Even if there was a person behind stage, there's no way to know which page she's looking at. Too many word combinations could be "big words" depending on the person you're talking to.
I liked the trick alot but after finding the how you did it i was disappointed, i really don't like tricks that involve technology , software since these kind of tricks are not really technicaly skill wise .I believe they shouldn't be allowed on the show
Using technology and electronic searches is really lame...It's really not magic anymore in the traditional sense of the word...Most magic is sleight of hand or gimmick trap door stuff......really lame trick and he's not good at the presentation.....hated it.
I mean, David Copperfield owns an island because he pretended to fly with string lol. TV magicians use fake volunteers, edited footage, and rigged camera angles all the time and people think they're amazing. I don't really see what's so different. And he used some slight of hand, because Penn and Teller didn't bring up the fact that he wrote on the kid card himself, so.... it's all gimmicks, there's literally no difference.
@@wrenboy2726 typical keyboard warrior saying stuff you would never say directly to someone's face . But "boy" is right in your name so I'm not surprised
All magic is deception my friend. Magicians through all ages used the cutting edge tech to pull one over on thier audience. This is absolutely no different. And i was say it right to your face.
thank you!!!👍
excellent
Good work
Nice
I think according to the rules, you cannot have an assistant backstage if i recall correctly. But tech to aid him is likely, but it would have been self-contained, like speech to text algorithm of sorts.
Most old books are on searchable pdf, hence any book would have been OK to choose. It takes less than 10uS to do a search for a specific word pattern. Hence some computer aided assistance is used. The assistant can only transmit info electronically, or low frequency acoustic if someone is hiding under the nearest table. The assistant could be a female and petite, could easily fit under that table.The rest is the way you described it - he hid the card under the notebook etc..
Nope that isn't allowed on Fool US
Pretty sure they'd notice one table being significantly heavier than the other during setup.
As i wrote in another comment:
It's not the answer since even if he did somehow have someone backstage (which I doubt the producers would allow), there could be multiple instances of two words beginning with those letters and that amount.
He wouldn't risk coming into the trick with no knowledge that there wouldn't be multiple instances of those combinations. She could have chosen a book with 2000 pages making it even more likely that there could be. And then he would have to stand there continually guessing going through each one looking like an idiot.
Nice theory, but we don't see any earpiece or electronics on him. How did the person in the backstage gave him the words? What if she had taken an extremely rare book or an academic book? Or if there is more than one combination with the first and last words (in case he needs to ask more questions)?
Magicians earpieces are extremely tiny, so I think that could br possible. About the books, he could have told her to bring known books for better interpretation. If this is not the secret then we have a new routine hahaha. Thank you 😊
@@cardmagic Alison clearly told that she had no such communication with him.
The magician works for Google and practically every[!] book ever published is scanned into books.google.[com]. Just to be safe, the magician had Alison bring several books, and he picked one from her books. The offstage assistant then searched the book for two words together of the correct number of letters (using wildcard search, "????? ???????", where each question mark means one unknown letter). The offstage assistant relays the suspected word pair via hidden electronic device. The magician pulls out the P for Penguin card, from his deck of cards, and asks if the first word starts with P. She confirms it does, so he knows he has the right word pair. If she said it doesn't start with P, he would have said "Yeah, I knew it wasn't Penguin" and then he would have moved on to the next word pair. He asked her to pick two longs words together reduce the number of possible matches.
@@kkgt6591 She had some communications with producers who had communications with the magician.
Device in his hat
Make a tutorial on david sheerif guy on fool us please
Your hypothesis is correct.
There is a method for searching in text called regular expression this helps to implement very efficient algorithms to find almost anything with any combination of information you have. For this case searching for words with certain number of letters and starting with specific characters in a certain part of a book is very easy for the hand he had out of the stage.
I know regex. It's still not the answer since even if he did somehow have someone backstage (which I doubt the producers would allow), there could be multiple instances of two words beginning with those letters and that amount.
He wouldn't risk coming into the trick with no knowledge that there wouldn't be multiple instances of those combinations. She could have chosen a book with 2000 pages making it even more likely that there could be. And then he would have to stand there continually guessing going through each one looking like an idiot.
That's not the answer.
@@stu5804at 3:19 he explained that the magician asked Allison what's the 1st letter of the word is and that can help narrow down the selection. If there's still ambiguity he can just ask for the last letter of the 1st word and so on though I think that's more than enough. I also think that no one would bring a 2000 page book with them when asked to bring some books with them for a magic trick. The magician also was the one who selected the book for the trick.
@@stu5804 meepoop is wrong about the regex because you wouldn't use regex for this trick, that would be slower and more complicated then necessary. You'd just loop through all words and check which two consecutive words are of lengths (7, 6).
> "And then he would have to stand there continually guessing going through each one looking like an idiot."
The crucial tip here is binary search. As a very prolific researcher at MIT, and an engineer at Google, he's surely aware of this algorithm.
So you can easily do some math on combinations of English words of consecutive length (7, 6). The longest book ever written (Except for e.g. Encyclopedias), would be Les Mis at 600k words. He specifically asked for _two long words_, of which we can do simple math on frequency of
Talking about playing this with his kids threw me off, because I was no longer expecting a confederate backstage. You don’t have any help at home. He got me.
It was surprising to read a bit of portuguese :)
Wrong that isn't how it was done. Back stage help is not allowed
Back stage / Hidden Assistant help is definitely allowed and has been done many times and even pointed out by Penn (i.e. Angela Funovits' assistant hiding in the table)
Come back please
D? The first letter of the first word was A. It was apparently.
I think he means P, for Pinguin
THANK YOU that bothered me so much haha
Very observant Sir although you missed that Alison brought 4 books with her not 3. How did you miss that?
Not to mention he says here the first letter was D. It was P.
Am i the only one who sees the thicknesse of the first alphabetical cards on his right hand... it look like a cellphone... and knowing what u try to prove what a nice sleight of hand.... can u try to reveal the randy 1million challenge of seth( for me the first trick is a simple heartbeat monitor, the second is a simple share screen with a connecting device to send enough data to make the thing ,shoe vibration potentially) morse code probably....for the last one .... no clues ... hope u will answer ❤
you forget that they can see how far into the book she is to help narrow down the words she chose.
His assistant must be very good.
So how did he guess the word Fooler by Penn and Teller?
@@rebecca.menashe I sincerely pray you’re being sarcastic.
@@wrenboy2726 HAHAHAHA
4 books were you even watching ?
Why cant he simply get a high quality shot of page with some hidden cam in set and read text via optical character recognition. The technology for such task exists now.
Why are you holding cards.
probably to make the video not that boring 😹
He did his thesis at MIT on emotion patterns, how they affect and influence thought processes, and vice-versa. One such publication was a study on group communication w/ single-bit protocol analyzing how participants can communicate complex conversation w/ 1 bit. Pretty certain he combined a number of these ideas along with research from others who were studying neuroscience at the media lab while he was working as a research assistant. For one part of his joke win of James Randi's $1mil paranormal challenge, it definitely feels like he's using ideas stemmed from his starfish publication.
Cooool background information. Thank you for this comment.
And so what? Because he has studied neuroscience or whatever you suppose he must have known or should know because labs and Mit and science, then he must be able to deduce a 10 and a 6-letter word by seeing how much Alisson moves his eyebrows? Please! Don't be so naive, either he received information from behind the scenes or he was in cahoots with Alisson and with the cards he showed her and the answers she gave him she was giving him the information he needed and Alisson exactly how to do that, they had a code that he made Alisson learn.
"Elephant - Waffles or pancakes?" ?????? It made no sense at all and she answered it in less than 1 second. Take off the pillow from your face.
@@ecastag (response inline)
> And so what? Because he has studied neuroscience or whatever you suppose he must have known or should know because labs and Mit and science, then he must be able to deduce a 10 and a 6-letter word by seeing how much Alisson moves his eyebrows?
Um, Yes?...but not completely, because there's a whole other sentence that you seem to have generalized over when resurrecting a 1 year old thread. (There's _only_ 4 of them, so it's pretty surprising that you missed it). As a social species, being around like-minds working towards a greater goal which usually brings out unique ideas..which can be actionable. You've probably never been on a team of researchers or amongst other creatives which is why you under-value that experience.
So no, not because "labs and Mit and science" as you suggest, but because "ideas", "collaboration", and "sharing". (Ironically, experience would tell anyone that they're the same, but in your example you clearly consider them different). You know...hippie sh*t (censoring myself because you might be underage), because we're social beings that benefit from being around similar minds.
> Please! Don't be so naive, either he received information from behind the scenes or he was in cahoots with Alisson and with the cards he showed her and the answers she gave him she was giving him the information he needed and Alisson exactly how to do that, they had a code that he made Alisson learn.
Do you always believe that people in the content you consume are conspiring against you, violating the rules of the game that's laid out plainly in the premise? I'm not sure why you're accusing Seth Raphael of cheating, but this must be a pattern that you follow when you "feel" tricked by people. You should definitely understand the context of what you're watching before jumping to conclusions.
> "Elephant - Waffles or pancakes?" ?????? It made no sense at all and she answered it in less than 1 second.
Are you really suggesting that you (personally) need more than a second to answer whether you prefer waffles or pancakes? That's something you figure out when you're much younger, yo. If you're ever a teen, and you still don't know whether you prefer waffles or pancakes you should probably quit the internet for a bit and figure that out. (Do people like not have a favorite food where you come from?)
> Take off the pillow from your face.
Not sure what that means in this context, are you suggesting that I'm suffocating myself? What does a pillow being on someone's face have to do with your accuasations? Your suggestion isn't even a common saying?? Are you sure you're on the right thread?
It was clearly fed to him. Nothing against the dude's accolades and such, but this is purely a trick and not him emotionally solving people with MIT skills.
@@Great-FOXX OP doesn't claim MIT skills, accolades, or the like.. Rather, training, experience, and inspiration (as noted in OP and contents of 1st flame). It's absurd to think that creatives don't use their experiences when crafting...You can observe the effects of this history by checking out his patents, even. With regards to FU, however, there are rules... but you already knew that, hence your resurrection of a dead thread.
Alyson brought with her FOUR books, not three books.
Yep, he had an electronic device under the cards that his assistant backstage was using to send him the words.
Yeah he definitely used a phone, it's so easy to see as well. besides what was the yellow buzzer doing on Alisons table???? it's an ocr scanner that scans the book, thats why he asked Alison to move the other book away as to not confuse it.
Nope. The rules clearly state that isn't allowed
@@randysager3660 Show me the rules that say that? There's been several electronic tricks used on that show previously. Please show me the rules that say you can't?
@@daz1169 Off. Stage assistance using electronics is not allowed. In other words a living person is not allowed to feed information to to the performer. That is absolute fact.
@@randysager3660 Prove that 'it's absolute fact' with a link to the rules then? You saying it's absolute fact doesn't make it so. There's lot's of tricks on the show where a live person feeds information to the performer, you can find them on youtube.
this whole "storytelling" mentalism thing is fascinating to me. It can't all be about a dude in the back room with a computer. James Randi did it and from what I could gather, there didn't seem to be someone sending him a word from a hidden device or earpiece. There's also another penn and teller where the dude had the word hidden in a jar.... so seemed to be some sort of force.
Not a force since book was completely random from the start. The jar/envelope trick I'm not sure how it's done but P&T always refer to it as the "impossible location" trick. I don't think a variation of it is used here or they would have said.
You can clearly see his white phone amongst the cards at 3.37 in his left hand for the curious. Yes he used an electronic device.
Pen and teller told there was no electronics involved
At no stage did Penn and Teller say no electronics were involved, neither did Seth? Where did you get that from?
Playing with a deck of cards was not necessary. You really didn't tell me anything
I think as far as I know, no stooges are allowed in Penn and Teller show. So this explanation is not valid.
Not only is your theory incorrect, even the simple things that aren't tricks you got wrong lol.
She brought 4 books, not 3. The first letter of the first word she chose was P, not D.
And a midget could fit behind that table so even your presumption for that is wrong.
I don't believe your explanation. Even if there was a person behind stage, there's no way to know which page she's looking at. Too many word combinations could be "big words" depending on the person you're talking to.
I liked the trick alot but after finding the how you did it i was disappointed, i really don't like tricks that involve technology , software since these kind of tricks are not really technicaly skill wise .I believe they shouldn't be allowed on the show
There wasn't any technology involved.
I think you are very close
No electronics used. Sorry.
He defo had a phone on top of the cards go look again carefully.
3.36 white phone in his left hand.
Using technology and electronic searches is really lame...It's really not magic anymore in the traditional sense of the word...Most magic is sleight of hand or gimmick trap door stuff......really lame trick and he's not good at the presentation.....hated it.
they only way u can fool penn and teller is if u use gimmicks or technology cuz they know a lot about real sleight of hand and illusions
I mean, David Copperfield owns an island because he pretended to fly with string lol. TV magicians use fake volunteers, edited footage, and rigged camera angles all the time and people think they're amazing. I don't really see what's so different. And he used some slight of hand, because Penn and Teller didn't bring up the fact that he wrote on the kid card himself, so.... it's all gimmicks, there's literally no difference.
How are gimmicked cards, trap doors, secret panels, stacked decks, etc all okay but using a phone or some technology is "not magic anymore"?
thats cheating not magic
Magic isn’t real, numbnuts...
@@wrenboy2726 typical keyboard warrior saying stuff you would never say directly to someone's face . But "boy" is right in your name so I'm not surprised
All magic is deception my friend. Magicians through all ages used the cutting edge tech to pull one over on thier audience. This is absolutely no different. And i was say it right to your face.
@@a.b.4052 OK ill be waiting
@@swedesspeedshop2518 Come to los angeles. Take action on your dreams.
What a pathetic response...you didn't explain HOW the trick was done.
You arnt playing with a full deck are you?
@@a.b.4052 Do you regularly insult random strangers for no reason or is this kind of a one-off for you?
@@ohheyemmi If you cannot detect my reasoning, you are an insult unto yourself. Tisk tisk.
Incorrect. Click bait.
Wake up guys! Allison with those nonsense answers she gave instantly by those cards he showed to her? She knew.