When I was a young boy, I always wished to be white or coloured. I hated being black because of the hand history dealt us. Ive attempted to commit suicide on multiple occasions and have been prone to self-harming mechanisms that are born from self-hatred of being black. I always tbought it was a shame to be black, because everybody, including blacks, genuinely believed that being black or black African was shameful. Im in my 20s now and im shaking off the shackles of mental slavery and self-hate every minute of everyday. Im able to look into the mirror more often without flinching or feeling uneasy. Its not easy, everyday is a struggle, but its getting better. I dont punch myself in the face as hard as i can anymore to see a more disheveled face in the mirror that i can punch again. Its still hard to reconcile with the past, but i ultimately believe in the overall goodwill and civility of humanity. Peace and love to all my South African brothers and sisters: black, white, coloured, and indians. We really need to forgive ourselves and forgive each other for what we have done and continue to do. The good earth is rich and can provide for all of us.
i hope my generation can be united with each other and not care so much about skin color more than the person. i dont want a repeat of the past but with us now the cycle must stop. awe ✊
there is also racism amongst coloured people, those with coarse v straight hair, dark coloured v light skinned coloured. seen it in Zimbabwe and South Africa
Very correct, my light skinned european Black heritage mother in law would make derogatory remarks about my course hair and brown skin. She no longer speaks to me because she is a fake catholic who does not practice forgiveness yet I have forgiven her multiple times for her indiscretions towards me and my family.
I almost agree with you. What l can say is there's percentage of racism in every person, in white and Indians that percentage is higher. Blacks have the lowest percentage of racism in them
im a black guy from North West, Rustenburg. I started spending more of my time with coloureds since i was in Grade 11 in 2011 and i've never ever experienced racism from coloured people. Racism between BLACKS & COLOUREDS feels wierd when coming to think of it because most of the time when im in coloured community or with coloured people i don't really feel like im "BLACK" like im different from them...
thank you for your comment Tshegofatso, because this video is bananas.. I do not feel we are racist actually outta the many different races in this country we are the more accepting one ..we might joke around yes as you might know seeing that you have spent so much time within our communities but it does not come from a hateful place..and racism is hatred.
You will find that more in the cape. I was brought up a decent human being. Little things I dismissed, but there was always that segregated feeling growing up in post apartheid. Now I moved to Pretoria and I met the most amazing black people... Indian and white people too.
There is a difference between Cape Coloureds and the mixed raced South Africans who were given the Coloured identity after 1952 (Apartheid's Group Areas Act). Coloureds in the rest of the Provinces are related to Black South Africans. Cape Coloureds descend from Malaysians, Indians, Angolan and Gabonese slaves (those with calender months surnames), Khwe (Hottentot/Khoi), San as well as Dutch and British men.
They all look like different races lumped together, some look almost white, some look black, some look Indian, some look SE Asian etc. South African government really messed up with their system of classification.
As a coloured, I'm trying to except every race, religion and gender. I'm especially focusing on black south Africans. I try my best to connect with them and be less prejudice towards black people in SA. God didn't create black, white, Asian, coloured, Hispanic or so, he created one race and that's the human race but because we all were Givin a label I just have to go with. Salute my fellow human beings
I am a Coloured and i identify myself as a black cause outside other countries there is no race called coloured you'll gonna be identified as black when you go outside South Africa, i know this is kinda rude to other people but this human race "Coloured" was an insult to identify people like that during apartheid so i accepted that there is no need to call myself a Coloured i don't even know what is that and i don't want to be called coloured anymore ,I prefer being identified as black that's all.❤
it was not an insult to identify people as coloured during apartheid. That was the classification. Thats like saying if you call someone black that's an insult.
When I was in the Army crisscrossing South Africa, I realized just how racist and self adulated colored people, the irony was that some of them were darker and looked more African than me🙄. And as a Tswana/Sotho I know many people in my community who are more colored than a lot of people who classify as colored and are racist towards those who classify as African.
It's true ,I am a coloured ,I'm very interested in such stuff and I come across stuff on how, during apartheid,some black people were classified as coloured eventhough you could clearly see they were black/khoisan and this was very irritating to the mixed race/coloured community
I once had to break up with an amazing girl coz her dad hated the fact that she was dating a black guy. I still wanna klap the old man coz his own father is just as dark as I am. There is an element of self hate in the cape coloured community, that shit is sad as hell
Yh man .In coloured community we discriminate each other's features .They are very confused people ,they think straight hair is better than African hair and green is eyes is better than brown eyes to them.they generally seem to look down on the blacks and praise the whites but some is reasonable as hooliganism has been going on there recently .
But this videos are certainly a great place to start. Otherwise we wouldn't get anywhere with that mentality. People can multitask and do more than one thing at a time to do anti racist work.
The biggest issue with racism right now is the left screaming racist all the time toward people who just has a different opinion. Before we can stop racism entirely we need to learn how to identify true racism. For example if I say I hate islam people will call me racist because it's practiced mostly by a certain race. That is dumb logic.
This is good content! One can write a book on this. As a black person, it's disappointing to hear that the k-word is used amongst some coloured people.
The coloureds that are presented here seems to be Cape Coloured people only. There are coloured people all over SA. KZN, Limpopo, etc. You will find that their experiences are different and also similar
Firstly, there is a universal misconception that being black is being African automatically which is not true. Some of the most dark-skinned tribes are in India, Australia and South America, their blackness does not make them African. Secondly, there is the issue of self-identity, on a collective level and individually. For political reasons Coloured identity was defined by others for ulterior motives. For black blacks Coloureds were regarded as blacks to support their politics; for whites they were classified as mixed for reasons of divide and rule to ensure greater political control. Still with self-identity, Coloureds, although of a mixed background, viewed themselves as Bruinmense and lately as Khoi Bruinmense on a collective scale. This should be respected as they have a right to self-identity and self-determination. Thirdly, Coloureds got their real identity, Khoe/Khoi/Koi changed because of their phenotypes (appearances) by Dr. D.F. Malan a racist fanatic. he did the injustice by removing the indigenous element from Coloureds in terms of their true identity as the Afrikaner Koi, their language Afrikaans which got its name from the African Afrikaner clan from which Coloureds came, and their culture of which many elements were stolen by white Afrikaners. In the process, the nationalist white Afrikaners assumed for themselves indigenous status so as to get their grip on the land and material, natural and spiritual resources of the indigenous Khoesan of which Coloureds are part of. This is the identity we had and reclaim and how others must call us by. We are African Bruinmense. The growing Coloured movement which is part of the greater Khoesan movement, began to become aware of all the injustices perpetrated against them of one of which is the demand of determining for and by themselves who they are - indigenous Afrikaner Khoe, Khoesan, Bruinmense, Africans. On the individual level, one has his right to be whoever you want to be as is noted in the video, but I must point out that these contrasting views of the identity of Coloureds among Coloureds themselves, is a construct of apartheid politics which brought about great divisions, confusion and different self-views in terms of who and what they are. The fact that there are coloured with a small letter c, the "other Coloureds" and Coloureds with a capital C, is proof of this mind control and brainwashing of the masses. This is coming to an end now as Coloureds will from now on be known as the indigenous Afrikaner Khoe from the aboriginal Khoesan.
This is laughed at in the states and Canada. Something to think about, divided you are weak and together you are stronger...the division was created to weaken.
I am so grateful for this video as I've been preaching that as Colored people we've long been afforded better opportunities that blacks and this have led to us wanting to associate ourselves with the fair skin people, not wanting to be labeled as blacks and discriminate against blacks and that is exactly what "GATVOL CAPETONIAN" is doing, being verbal about a shameful disgusting thing to say in 2018. I will also say this LOUDLY, black people are the most loving kind you can ever associate yourself with, our hate for who we truly are and what blacks have achieved and the whitewash we've been raised in have led us to think that black people hate us WHICH IS NOT. Crime in South Africa have no race, being rude have no gender and being racist is wanting the best for you and not being able to understand that those you look down on are capable of doing greater things in life. We need to shift how we think of blacks and start realizing that the fight blacks put against white supremacy is for everyone in South Africa who is affected by inequalities, institutional racism and classist attitudes whites and colored have against them. I love black people, I had a pleasure to live, work and socialize with them and believe me when I say I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAPPIER. You can deny all you like but this is the truth and only the raw truth.
Thank you!! Having humanity that you got not all people from your community have the heart you got. I wish you can spread love to your children and grandchildren. I'm black and hearing this warms my heart.
@@jadenphilander8799 I'm not generalizing anyone that's why I said too..im saying that because some black people believe they can't be because they are black.I didn't say all black people are racist that is generalizing🙄..it's just a fact that black people are racist too just like coloureds indians and whites are i know not everyone are racist in the different race and ethnic groups
@@angeliquejanuary6466 lies we are retaliating to how we have been treated since we were young by different races. Black people were taught to love other races since growing up but when we become adults we learn that we are not loved as we love
Exactly! I'm an African(black) from the Zulu tribe, I've experienced racism from coloured peopIe. We're all people, but we're not the same. We are liberating our own people, starting by taking our land back.
The coloured race owes its existence through the mixing of Khoi, San, Xhosa, Tswana, Angolan, Malaysian, Dutch, English, French, Portugese and German. Forgive me if left out any other contributors of this most genetically diverse group in the world. While we are most certainly African, we are most certainly not black. Because in SA being black goes way deeper than skin pigmentation. Being black is having a generational culture that goes back a long time. Being black is belonging to a tribe, a clan. Being black comes with certain practices traditions and rituals that must be performed as part of the living experience of black people. My coloured people does not have a generational culture in that sense. We are not tribesman or have clans. The generational culture and traditions we do have is just as mixed as our genetic makeup. So it appears as if we have none. Proudly South African Proudly Coloured Rustige dag of nag mense
What I see is they want so bad to be accepted as white and because you will never be accepted as white and you absolutely dont want to be black than I will try to be something else completely black Americans have been down this road doesn't work
I have worked in retail for years and worked with different types of races and customers. And I can say without a doubt that every single race is racist, not that bullshit of I am not a racist. I'm not saying hardcore racist but racist in a way where we have learned not to show it. If it makes sense...
I look at it like this. In every single country on this world , there are good people, there are bad people and there are stupid people. Not everybody is racist. Racism is more prevalent among stupid and bad people. We all belong to the human race , each and everyone.
My late mom was mixed White and Black, regarded as coloured in the community, my late father was a very dark Indian, I was registered as Cape Malay, 🧐🙄🥴, my hair is very curly not straight, my skin tone is more yellowish than brown, not even light skinned.🤪, I was called all sorts of names.. yes racism is still alive, from all my different families of the different nations,.. I have them all.. I know who my my Heavenly Father is.❤️ that's what makes me to survive in this evil world.
i like how the one girl mentions white supremecy, when lots of coloured girls first choice is a fair skinned coloured guy or better yet a white guy, when growing up their mothers told them "hy moet mooi wit lyk"
This is not true in the black community maybe but not always the light woman be may be picked but the dark skin black man is the preferred one and picked first the lightskin black man is sometimes considered weak not as strong as the dark one
@@angeliquejanuary6466 and since it feels like we are going back into apartheid again I don't think coloureds wants to be white or light skin anymore..maybe he is thinking in those white apartheid years
All races have racist people. We are not black we are coloured. If every other race can be proud to say they are black, they are white. Why should coloured people be ashamed of their race. Don’t gimme that we are one race the human race we are in SA. The reality is we are still categorized according to our race. When I fill out the employment equity form what do you think I fill out when asked race ? Black ? 😆 Asian ? I’m a coloured so I identify as coloured. I am proud of my identity.
Raan Chol. Not really. It depends which area you live in. Coloured accents from Cape Town is different to that of KZN. Even amongst the Zulu tribe there are some different dialects from some in Northern and Southern Zululand (KZN).
@@lilonkemgidlana3360 hahahahahah keep dreaming,we are all Africans yes not black,there's black people in India and Asia not native to Africa,are they african ??? To be african means to be native to Afrika not to have black skin
I am Cameroonian and studied in Cape Town, South Africa. I've never been more aware of my race than while in Cape Town.l was surprised that coloured classmates kept saying they are not black and in fact got angry if I tried to label them as such although I later met a colored man who after studies in the US now understood he was in fact Black
I'm curious what did you study a marsters in stupidity? Who are you to tell people what race they are? Because they look a certain way they are black now? Coloured people/mixed raced people aren't white, black, Asian whichever other race YOU think we are stop acting so superior to us. We are coloured period.
@@Saint_Augustus call it what you want and insult me all you want. It proves how shallow and stupid you are. When you don't have a point,you sink to the depth of a gutter level (your type belong there anyway). Have a good day fool
I'm happy this conversation exists. I wish issues affecting our social landscape should be given bigger platforms. I liked Simone Cornelius' explanations, but I just want to ask, what's the difference between racism and being anti-black?.
This is all so sad. My mom was mixed so we would be considered coloured. But on the other hand my son is really dark and my daughter has light skin. So my son is black but my daughter coloured? Thats messed up. I am from suriname living in the Nederlands. In both countries I am just considered a black/brown surinaamse.
I was born a privileged coloured from Zimbabwe but moved to the US at a very young age..my family was very racist though..it seemed to be almost in the blood..I was taught from a young that I was better than the black Africans that were our servants and drivers..but then you come to America and the blacks say your not black enough and the whites say your not white enough.i was accepted more by the whites and I naturally gravitated to them..we had more in common..all the racism I've faced has been from American black ppl..so one literally feels like an alien..I was such a confused boy even till this day at 33 it's very hard to let go of things taught to me as a child
@@maureenjackson2041 No I wouldn't I'm a coloured African..born in Africa. Black people born in America are black Americans, just like a white person born in America is a white american.
Being raised in a coloured community with most of my family members from my father's side being coloured, I can attest yes there is racism in the coloured community but most of my family members aren't racist to be honest i think maybe because we practice african tradition and religion. However recently my niece got fired from work because her manager didn't appreciate her being coloured and that shattered my heart because I know she is not racist. So coloureds institutionally do face racism the company I work for don't hire coloureds specifically light skinned coloureds because my late white CEO believed that coloureds are stupid and violent something we argued about.
Coloured people face structural racism. I found this quite striking. I'm a fair skinned Coloured which comes with its own set of complexities. I've had to reintegrate into student life and Campus life this year as a senior student on a predominantly white tertiary institution and the institutionalised RACISM is highly problematic, still so pervasive aaaanddd oh so DANGEROUS and needs urgent attention and redressing. I've experienced Coloured projected racism and have great empathy for that. I do however feel that there is a greater, more urgent need for Coloured emotional awareness so that we as Coloured people can identify our historical triggers of feeling disenfranchised and done wrong by in order for Coloured people, me included, to just know how to better channel our energies, efforts and emotions when we are TRIGGERED
Oh gawd leftist eternal victim-hood.. go study at a black university then if you find whites problematic.. You wouldn't be so triggered if you had a purpose higher than being a victim
@Brian Abisdid : you have to born in SA/Africa to understand the complexities of race,tribe,skin colour and class. The is even xenophobia amongst Africans and tribalism.bringing a Jamaican mindset into this complexity is like an Ant 🐜 trying to have sex with a Elephant hoping to be felt and have impregnation??? It won't make sense to you Sir????
You 'Coloureds' are not marginalised please don't lie. God says don't lie. 'Coloureds' have nice jobs look at Jessie Duarte she is 'Coloured' she even Identifies herself as one yet she works for ANC secretary general the most important position in ANC which you guys hate very much only because there are too many black people but If a party is mostly racist white party you vote for one to attack very innocent black South Africans!! Look at Kyknet, VIA, SABC 2, SABC 3, Flieknet the 'Coloured' actors are treated with respect and they have been portraying your race as normal South Africans!
You aing making sence .i waved colords many times and they faced other sides .Kinda saw me different from them you dig? I tried them on internet saw am og black they blocked me .Catfished them they replied in a fair complexion .they racist
I would like for everyone on this channel to research the "Willy Lynch Method"' by a white man giving advice on how to divide black people by the color of their skin.
@Sun Kem i agree The infamous Willy Lynch letter is an excellent place to start.1 did some research in 2011 and came across that laetter pure evil & the moind of a demon that Willie Lynch had.The reason we all dont have an understanding is because of the evil of slavery.They have put us against each other so that we cant stand together as one.Watch the willy Lynch part 1 & 2 on you tube it will make you cry .Brainwashing
As another commenter below has said.. we are ALL racist.. we all want to be with our own people (even the ones that aren't the same color as us) We like 'our kinda people' and dislike the others.. it's just the way it is. Politeness and social cohesion has to do with commerce.. but if you don't need something from someone, and you don't like them.. you gonna say as much.. regardless of the color.
First off all IM NOT BLACK . I'm coloured . & Secondly coloured people get disrespected so much even on social media platforms and TV , but no one does something about it . I live in a country that hides my people and our history of what we also went through in apartheid . Our story's are not known and this is wrong . Black people did not fight alone , we all did .
100%. What irritates me are idiots such as these so called coloureds in the video that further feed into black peoples victim mentality whilst pushing down their own people
@@leonbiyata7716 So then tell her what books/subjects to study instead portraying egotistical behaviour. Only dogs and 3 year olds act this emotional full of entitlement, and you know what else they do? Shit on the carpet.
The answer to this has many layers, it's never just a simple yes, or a simple no. But if I was pushed to answer with just a yes or no, it would be yes.
You would fall under the mixed raced category, not Coloured. Coloured is a race. Kids born from Black and Coloured parents are also technically mixed raced but I'm sure parents assign them as black upon birth. I know siblings who are mixed with black and white, their parents assigned them as black because their father is Zulu. So because of patriarchy rule, the kids took their father's race and culture. They can't be Coloured because they are not living the Coloured experience and culture.
I am a white person. Did I get a secret pre-birth visit asking me what my colour preference would be for the birth, no of course not, only God knows what you will be and how you will fulfill your role in His plan for your life. I just don't understand the whole issue about race, the real difference is about culture and has absolute nothing to do with the colour of our skins. If we were all born green we would still have differences, so just stop blaming everything on race. Let us rather respect that cultures differ and live with it!
Cameron Biggs I don’t think they interviewed anyone, this is a bunch of staged propaganda bullshit!! The liberal, socialist disease that is destroying the west has infected the minds of South African youths.
very interesting interesting topic growing as a black guy I always get mistaken for being coloured but I really didn't pay attention to it cause I saw coloured and black the same thing but now I see there's a whole lot I don't know.
I lived in bloem for 5 years, no white person ever called me kaffir. I had a great coloured friend whom I visited in 2015 for the whole December, I was called kaffir 3 times in 4 days, I was also called bantu, but over and above the rest where great people
Every race group in sa still harbour hate for each other! coloured racism, however, continues after coloureds leave the country to live and work abroad. I've been a british citizen for 17 years now and my racist light skinned in laws still refer to us as "coloured" because they naturally pass as poor white here in England. our connections (mates) who visit still degrade south africa and the native population by referring to them using the k word. We need to raise our children not to see colour first so there is a hopeful path forward.
It's normal that "Coloured" people are racist. They are descents from Portuguese, Dutch, Indians and some of them maybe British. They have half blood of native African. The Europe is a continent who has the most long history of racism, and India also has a long history of racism. Here we talking about Romans. And also Hindu.
I am white. I will admit that white people can be racist. Perhaps subconsciously so. But you should hear how black Americans talk about Chinese people! Calling them "chinks" and so on. They don't even hide it or sugarcoat it. And the way they talk about Jews!
Yes important conversations to be had but the question is to what end.how does it help to forever pointing out the problem when no one is actually doing nothing to solve it and yes as much as people believe this is a problem to be solved on bended knees ...seriously snap out of it and realise this begins in one's mind when you have managed to imprison yourself it does not matter how much acceptance you are given because you still behave like an imposter.This is power that resides within you a power that is unspoken that speaks for you when the others take a how to you in their hearts because they know who you are and less to do with the tone of your skin.I mean clearly it cannot be about black and coloured as coloured themselves still discriminate amongst each other in terms of language skin tone even hair texture...omg this is so deep
I always find it interesting to see how different white nations decided to interact with and categorize the ppl they chose to oppress. Here in the USA, everyone who spoke would have been considered black due to the one drop rule. However, they would be light skinned, or biracial, or quadroon (in Louisiana way back when), etc. And as "light skinned" black ppl, they would be treated better due to their proximity to whiteness.
Not quite true. In NYC, where I am from, people don't consider Puerto Ricans or Dominicans or Cubans to be "black." Even though they have African DNA. They are just considered.... Hispanic, I guess.
Hi all, I am a little confused now because it is now concidered to be a racist statement when using the word coloured. Much like the word half cast which is not to be used now as it is deemed to be offensive so the words mixed race have to be used or mixed heritage. There will be a point in the future where these terms will also be frowned upon and a new term will be invented! All the terms above have been used and 99% of the time they would have been used in a non racist way much the same as the word Black. Hope you get my point here guys.
My grandmother was called colored and she was black America my great grandfather was called colored also black American you all have the Same mindset My ancestors had in the early 20 th century doesn’t matter what they call you it matters how they treat you look like to me your treated as a black person
Jesus once said something like : if you hate your brother (fellow human being) without a cause, you're in danger of hell. So haters be warned, everything has consequences. Haters will be punished for their evil racism. God hates racism. Read the Bible (Numbers 12)and see what HE did to a racist who was complaining about Moses' black wife from Africa.
I'm a very l8ght-skinned person in the USA considered "Black" here though my birth certificate says "colored" . What would I be considered in South Africa ?. Just asking.
I'm Tanzania living in Cape town for 1999 I have 6 so called coloured children and I'm called African so I don't understand what is coloured and what is black in this country 🤐
These two lesbian Marxist activists are the definition of biased. I'd love to see them share a platform with conservative Coloureds or Gatvol Capetonian but they never will because they are closed minded arrogant cowards.
Don't deny the truth it's going to come back to haunt you guys. This video is not biased it's based on true story. Gatvol Capetonian is a biased racist movement aimed to kick black African people out of the Western Cape even though we did nothing to them. I understand that there is little service delivery in 'Coloured' areas and they blame the ANC and black Africans yet Western Cape is run by Democratic Alliance the dominantly white liberal/Conservative, colour blind party so don't blame the ANC because they have no power in the Western Cape, the Democratic Alliance is to blame. The Democratic Alliance is using you guys as tools ⚙️ they said there is 0 delivery service problems yet there is too many in 'Coloured' and black African areas so it's all Democratic Alliance propaganda.
@@siderilegreshileyi57 I agree with you bit now u assuming DA controls National Police and National government...DA still have to ask ANC for police or army and they don't send enough...yes DA runs provincial level but Nationally it's ANC...
@@siderilegreshileyi57 ask yourself,how's life for coloureds im DA run western cape compared to coloureds in the other ANC run provinces...is it a coincidence Eastern Cape migrants are flocking to western cape for better opportunities? Why don't they go to other ANC run provinces ? Lol 😆🤣I'll leave u with that,DA is the lesser evil between the two...why u think DA has hold on the western cape lol unlike other provinces where coloureds just had to accept anc and their oppression and fovour of blacks over coloureds us coloureds know ANC intentions lol not to help us but to help other black people in kzn,eastern cape settle in western cape on khoi lands...and we will not allow thst hence today DA still run western cape...we can see our fellow coloureds in the rest of south africa being used by blacks and u want us to submit to bantu supremacy hahahaha ANC will not get out khoi lands for thr day ANC takes control they'll classify us natives as Bantu,assimilating us thereafter we can't claim land over rhe real bantus...we'll then be the slaves for black bantu tribe and it will not happen lol
3:53 this girlie doesnt understand how tightly actual corporates are policed and how little policing goes towards state, if she did, it'd be extremely easy to see that the corruption is squarely with the black state.
The mere fact that the ANC has highlighted the issue of race in the new South Africa is the basis of racism. We are still an oppressed group which gives us the right to resist our oppressor, be he white or black.
@@angeliquejanuary6466 😂😂😂 Zulus from Compton. Online all them claim to be lighter than us as if that's some kind of achievement. My friends and family who's been there said they look more like Nigerians than even our black people here. They really hate themselves.
This was like an intellectual love letter to my soul. Ladies could please be so kind to post more and maybe just add the contributors names and social media handles in the description bar. I love stalking smart Khoi-San descendants .
I feel like this is not a fair representation of all coloured people but rather those who have an apple to pick? As if you can't hear racial undertones and condescension... please educate us who didn't go to UCT or become an activist?
1985 I was one of them stone throwers iup in Mitchell's plain AZ Berman highway across the bridge merry Dale leading to spine dale a lot my brothas fell I was a active src' trying to get the newbies standard sixes in the demos toi toi rallying in Rockland s etc in bonteheuwel I attented one my biggest gatherings I finished my matric long years ago do people rember young brothas like Ashley kriel? This current government did absolutely nothing for our people in our anc is taboo prohibited banned look at our people on the cape flats do they wanna live like this or are they just victims a handful of us got lucky and made and the rest or completely banished from society my heart is broken things were actually better under apartheid
When Coloured people in the ANC ran the Western Cape province; Coloured people joined in with Whites to overthrow Coloured leaders of the Western Cape because they believed White people will do a better job than their own kind. As during Apartheid and now, Coloured people mentally shift the blame to Black people when it is White people running the provincial government.
Yes Coloureds are racists and they're forgetting that they had it better during apartheid. Even when we welcome them, they believe they are better. And they shouldn't lie and say they are descendents of the Nama, the Khoi and the Sans because we're part of those tribes. Basarwa are part of the black Batswana. So the Coloureds should check themselves.
No one is of one race/ethnicity. Proportioning is quite exhausting and annoying! It only serves to divide humanity and conquer 1 portion at a time!! Where's the Unity?
This is a very interesting conversation, a conversation that we definitely need to have, considering all the race hate this country. I wish that we mix more as various communities to understand one another,great work guys.
Thecworld shoukd accept coloureds/mixed are in the in the middle of 2 races and should not be be forced to choose, even though they face rejection from everywhere. Basically africans hv tribes and mixed cultures, whites also hav different tribes, german, scots, welsch etc etc so coloured/mixed belong to their tribe called Mixed Race, not colour of skin so why can t people worldwide accept that and respect eachother with our differences, we can learn from eachother. And about whites giving coloureds/mixed favouur and alittlr priviledge, was this not because they did that to cover the guilt they felt to apease their children they brought intonthis world, Just a thought???
We are marginalized by the black majority thats why we are angry. Black people have all the awareness of land sovereignty complete control of the fiscus but still do not grant coloured people their own determination.
How are you marginalized when 64% of the very same people you're talking about live in poverty. THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF THE ECONOMY. You're so crass that you don't even take your time to do your research on what's going on in this country. You're fighting the wrong people here. That's why it's important to read, even if it's just a pamphlet READ!!!!
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Well I think you should learn to value each and every individuals opinion regards to this but how do we learn to coexist? how do we learn to let go of the past because if the past always brings separation and distraction in the present time.How do we teach our children to embrace one other and learn from each other because I am afraid that as a species we won't evolve because of this thinking we have participated in ourselves.We have caused this, we have made Hendrik Verwoerd one of the greatest politic sociologist of our time an ignorant man that died 6 September 1966.Anyone you always have a choice racist or not I am open to learn from you#
I'm confused, never met a coloured individual before., what are they racist for? I mean as for white people we know the drill, but as for you my fellow coloured people, I really don't get it.
I think this is were their a black denialism comes from bc black is K to them, and black doesn't mean Bantu and they are surrounded by Bantu so they think they have no black identity but black doesn't mean Bantu
1:26 your own identity is better than anothers, thats not predjudice unless you look down on someone else for benig an identity in such away that they are not allowed to also think themselvse better
Coloured people, aren't racist, due to the fact that blacks, Indians and coloureds are brown, we are generically the brown race, but most are colorists where they hate you becuz ur darker than them, they hate you becuz you speak a different language, you're not fair skinned where how odd some coloureds are darker than some black ppl have the same hair texture but still think they are better becuz of the accent, why is everyone afraid to be black yet you litsen to our music, dress like us, use our lingo but get so affected when anyone says you are black, If being classified as black is so bad, why is copying us not bad either, why is our music house music not bad as well, We need each other to co exist in this world, we need all races to become a better human race, why is being a certain race so shamed upon, why is race even a factor....?
Lol so black people aren't using things or like stuff white and other races created? why do black people always want to be seen as special while they have been literally colonized by white people and treated as their slaves
Asking this an outsider after spending 9 weeks in Cape Town last year, but what examples of white supremacy are there in SA considering the ANC are running the country and BEE is major obstacle for whites to find employment? I appreciate that there is still substantial wealth owned by whites. I'm genuinely trying to understand so keep it civil please 😂
The fact that the only point you came up with was BEE, which is meant to redress the economic inequalities caused by Apartheid and colonization( 400 YEARS). Where Africans were excluded in participating in their economic development and growth in their own land, resources and wealth, STOLEN by the same perpetrators! The audacity to want us to move on into a new South Africa but are still benefiting off our stolen wealth and resources, and still have them. 😂you are a bold European product
Coloureds who are prejudiced against blacks, shouldn't claim an African identity, they should just be South African. Afrikaners who rightwing are definitely not African.
@@catherinesterling1685 lol did you know that alot of coloured people were reclassified as white during apartheid? even black, indians and white people were reclassified..and btw we are not trying to be white or black
Urgh why am I not surprised because dis al wat julle ken. Yerrr you guys literally discriminate against them because that's what the white man taught you. You just used bantu as an alternative for the k-word
What is the “k” word? I’m sorry if I don’t know I’m from the states and a Mexican so I only know about Hispanic/latino people and black people the south East don’t have to many Asians of people from the Middle East
I’m African American I don’t understand this at all .. let me say this loud .. YOur BLACK….!in America/Europe/Asia/the islands/// your are black only in South Africa this colored stuff makes sense
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When I was a young boy, I always wished to be white or coloured. I hated being black because of the hand history dealt us. Ive attempted to commit suicide on multiple occasions and have been prone to self-harming mechanisms that are born from self-hatred of being black. I always tbought it was a shame to be black, because everybody, including blacks, genuinely believed that being black or black African was shameful. Im in my 20s now and im shaking off the shackles of mental slavery and self-hate every minute of everyday. Im able to look into the mirror more often without flinching or feeling uneasy. Its not easy, everyday is a struggle, but its getting better. I dont punch myself in the face as hard as i can anymore to see a more disheveled face in the mirror that i can punch again. Its still hard to reconcile with the past, but i ultimately believe in the overall goodwill and civility of humanity. Peace and love to all my South African brothers and sisters: black, white, coloured, and indians. We really need to forgive ourselves and forgive each other for what we have done and continue to do. The good earth is rich and can provide for all of us.
But you are the K word
Catherine Sterling But you are a mongrel.
What a beautiful comment , Love wins over hate
@@catherinesterling1685 you are a tief.
i hope my generation can be united with each other and not care so much about skin color more than the person. i dont want a repeat of the past but with us now the cycle must stop. awe ✊
there is also racism amongst coloured people, those with coarse v straight hair, dark coloured v light skinned coloured. seen it in Zimbabwe and South Africa
The same thing goes on with Northern Itaians versus Southern Itailians and Denmark Sweden and Norway so what else is new
Y'all scared to treat white people like y'all treat black people or black coloured
Very correct, my light skinned european Black heritage mother in law would make derogatory remarks about my course hair and brown skin. She no longer speaks to me because she is a fake catholic who does not practice forgiveness yet I have forgiven her multiple times for her indiscretions towards me and my family.
Same with black and white people
How can we be racist to our own race🤣
I think that all races have racists people. These are important conversations to have.
Michelle Francis one race.human race
I almost agree with you.
What l can say is there's percentage of racism in every person, in white and Indians that percentage is higher. Blacks have the lowest percentage of racism in them
VERY TRUE
I agree with your first statement but not the second one. Having these 'conversations' just inflames tensions and is completely counter productive.
Yes all races can be racist including the least racist ones.
im a black guy from North West, Rustenburg. I started spending more of my time with coloureds since i was in Grade 11 in 2011 and i've never ever experienced racism from coloured people. Racism between BLACKS & COLOUREDS feels wierd when coming to think of it because most of the time when im in coloured community or with coloured people i don't really feel like im "BLACK" like im different from them...
thank you for your comment Tshegofatso, because this video is bananas.. I do not feel we are racist actually outta the many different races in this country we are the more accepting one ..we might joke around yes as you might know seeing that you have spent so much time within our communities but it does not come from a hateful place..and racism is hatred.
Cindalz Hudson agree it’s all jokes we aren’t racist people we get painted as racist people
You will find that more in the cape. I was brought up a decent human being. Little things I dismissed, but there was always that segregated feeling growing up in post apartheid. Now I moved to Pretoria and I met the most amazing black people... Indian and white people too.
There is a difference between Cape Coloureds and the mixed raced South Africans who were given the Coloured identity after 1952 (Apartheid's Group Areas Act).
Coloureds in the rest of the Provinces are related to Black South Africans.
Cape Coloureds descend from Malaysians, Indians, Angolan and Gabonese slaves (those with calender months surnames), Khwe (Hottentot/Khoi), San as well as Dutch and British men.
Come to Cape Town 🤣🤣🤣
They all look like different races lumped together, some look almost white, some look black, some look Indian, some look SE Asian etc. South African government really messed up with their system of classification.
@alanbev preach 🙌🙌
White men classified people not this new democracy country.
lwazi Morris and the ANC kept it so.
Brian Abisdid what country are you from?
Dats y we called coloureds
As a coloured, I'm trying to except every race, religion and gender. I'm especially focusing on black south Africans. I try my best to connect with them and be less prejudice towards black people in SA. God didn't create black, white, Asian, coloured, Hispanic or so, he created one race and that's the human race but because we all were Givin a label I just have to go with. Salute my fellow human beings
Do you believe that orange Africans exists. We have proof of the existence of orange Africans on this channel
You just need to recognize that you are one of us. You can never be white.
God didn’t create colored people either,the white man did
God doesn't exist
Also trying to accept us not good enough. Just don't be prejudice. Simple as that. Also you spelt accept wrong. Learn grammer
I am a Coloured and i identify myself as a black cause outside other countries there is no race called coloured you'll gonna be identified as black when you go outside South Africa, i know this is kinda rude to other people but this human race "Coloured" was an insult to identify people like that during apartheid so i accepted that there is no need to call myself a Coloured i don't even know what is that and i don't want to be called coloured anymore ,I prefer being identified as black that's all.❤
it was not an insult to identify people as coloured during apartheid. That was the classification.
Thats like saying if you call someone black that's an insult.
@@lightningRatPack What color are you ?
Why does other countries have to decide your race?
Facts!! It's like they try and separate themselves. It's definitely racist to do so.
You're absolutely right ❤.
When I was in the Army crisscrossing South Africa, I realized just how racist and self adulated colored people, the irony was that some of them were darker and looked more African than me🙄. And as a Tswana/Sotho I know many people in my community who are more colored than a lot of people who classify as colored and are racist towards those who classify as African.
It's true ,I am a coloured ,I'm very interested in such stuff and I come across stuff on how, during apartheid,some
black people were classified as coloured eventhough you could clearly see they were black/khoisan and this was very irritating to the mixed race/coloured community
@@JennaPhillips-ro6vb Why do people continue to accept these racist classifications? It seems like brainwashing to me. I'm from the UK.
I once had to break up with an amazing girl coz her dad hated the fact that she was dating a black guy. I still wanna klap the old man coz his own father is just as dark as I am. There is an element of self hate in the cape coloured community, that shit is sad as hell
Nah you sad as hell...and learn some respect you can't just go around clapping people's fathers your twerp
Yh man .In coloured community we discriminate each other's features .They are very confused people ,they think straight hair is better than African hair and green is eyes is better than brown eyes to them.they generally seem to look down on the blacks and praise the whites but some is reasonable as hooliganism has been going on there recently .
@@leof.n.abrahams8260very strange. I don't know why they have that mentality, thinking they're better than Africans.
That father is a good man I’m mixed and would never let my child date a black man
I think racism is too complex to address in such a short video... You can't just scratch the surface, bc there's MUCH MORE to it, especially in SA.
But this videos are certainly a great place to start. Otherwise we wouldn't get anywhere with that mentality. People can multitask and do more than one thing at a time to do anti racist work.
I agree. There's a real danger to always hearing only superficial commentary. The essence of the problem lies deeper than the symptoms.
The biggest issue with racism right now is the left screaming racist all the time toward people who just has a different opinion. Before we can stop racism entirely we need to learn how to identify true racism. For example if I say I hate islam people will call me racist because it's practiced mostly by a certain race. That is dumb logic.
This is good content! One can write a book on this. As a black person, it's disappointing to hear that the k-word is used amongst some coloured people.
I hate that word... I don't even like to use it silently in my head
@@markcoetzee5458 what is the k-word?
I'm not surprised !
One you'll be drunk and slip up in front of black people this that one word you never say ever...this not America
*Kagiso
The coloureds that are presented here seems to be Cape Coloured people only. There are coloured people all over SA. KZN, Limpopo, etc. You will find that their experiences are different and also similar
Firstly, there is a universal misconception that being black is being African automatically which is not true. Some of the most dark-skinned tribes are in India, Australia and South America, their blackness does not make them African.
Secondly, there is the issue of self-identity, on a collective level and individually. For political reasons Coloured identity was defined by others for ulterior motives. For black blacks Coloureds were regarded as blacks to support their politics; for whites they were classified as mixed for reasons of divide and rule to ensure greater political control.
Still with self-identity, Coloureds, although of a mixed background, viewed themselves as Bruinmense and lately as Khoi Bruinmense on a collective scale. This should be respected as they have a right to self-identity and self-determination.
Thirdly, Coloureds got their real identity, Khoe/Khoi/Koi changed because of their phenotypes (appearances) by Dr. D.F. Malan a racist fanatic. he did the injustice by removing the indigenous element from Coloureds in terms of their true identity as the Afrikaner Koi, their language Afrikaans which got its name from the African Afrikaner clan from which Coloureds came, and their culture of which many elements were stolen by white Afrikaners. In the process, the nationalist white Afrikaners assumed for themselves indigenous status so as to get their grip on the land and material, natural and spiritual resources of the indigenous Khoesan of which Coloureds are part of. This is the identity we had and reclaim and how others must call us by. We are African Bruinmense.
The growing Coloured movement which is part of the greater Khoesan movement, began to become aware of all the injustices perpetrated against them of one of which is the demand of determining for and by themselves who they are - indigenous Afrikaner Khoe, Khoesan, Bruinmense, Africans. On the individual level, one has his right to be whoever you want to be as is noted in the video, but I must point out that these contrasting views of the identity of Coloureds among Coloureds themselves, is a construct of apartheid politics which brought about great divisions, confusion and different self-views in terms of who and what they are. The fact that there are coloured with a small letter c, the "other Coloureds" and Coloureds with a capital C, is proof of this mind control and brainwashing of the masses. This is coming to an end now as Coloureds will from now on be known as the indigenous Afrikaner Khoe from the aboriginal Khoesan.
This is laughed at in the states and Canada. Something to think about, divided you are weak and together you are stronger...the division was created to weaken.
I am so grateful for this video as I've been preaching that as Colored people we've long been afforded better opportunities that blacks and this have led to us wanting to associate ourselves with the fair skin people, not wanting to be labeled as blacks and discriminate against blacks and that is exactly what "GATVOL CAPETONIAN" is doing, being verbal about a shameful disgusting thing to say in 2018. I will also say this LOUDLY, black people are the most loving kind you can ever associate yourself with, our hate for who we truly are and what blacks have achieved and the whitewash we've been raised in have led us to think that black people hate us WHICH IS NOT. Crime in South Africa have no race, being rude have no gender and being racist is wanting the best for you and not being able to understand that those you look down on are capable of doing greater things in life.
We need to shift how we think of blacks and start realizing that the fight blacks put against white supremacy is for everyone in South Africa who is affected by inequalities, institutional racism and classist attitudes whites and colored have against them. I love black people, I had a pleasure to live, work and socialize with them and believe me when I say I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAPPIER.
You can deny all you like but this is the truth and only the raw truth.
Thank you!! Having humanity that you got not all people from your community have the heart you got. I wish you can spread love to your children and grandchildren. I'm black and hearing this warms my heart.
Black people are racist towards coloureds too
@@angeliquejanuary6466 let's stop generalizing.
@@jadenphilander8799 I'm not generalizing anyone that's why I said too..im saying that because some black people believe they can't be because they are black.I didn't say all black people are racist that is generalizing🙄..it's just a fact that black people are racist too just like coloureds indians and whites are i know not everyone are racist in the different race and ethnic groups
@@angeliquejanuary6466 lies we are retaliating to how we have been treated since we were young by different races. Black people were taught to love other races since growing up but when we become adults we learn that we are not loved as we love
Why do black South Africans have such low self-esteem this is Africa. you are the Majority use that to your advantage.
That's why I don't understand why they still let people ran over them the way they do when they make up probably 3/5 of South Africa
the truth is blacks wana look like others,othawise why should they care,they the majoity and have the power.
Aragti utter nonsense
Exactly! I'm an African(black) from the Zulu tribe, I've experienced racism from coloured peopIe. We're all people, but we're not the same. We are liberating our own people, starting by taking our land back.
Taking your land back what land , You not native south African
The coloured race owes its existence through the mixing of Khoi, San, Xhosa, Tswana, Angolan, Malaysian, Dutch, English, French, Portugese and German. Forgive me if left out any other contributors of this most genetically diverse group in the world.
While we are most certainly African, we are most certainly not black. Because in SA being black goes way deeper than skin pigmentation. Being black is having a generational culture that goes back a long time. Being black is belonging to a tribe, a clan. Being black comes with certain practices traditions and rituals that must be performed as part of the living experience of black people.
My coloured people does not have a generational culture in that sense. We are not tribesman or have clans. The generational culture and traditions we do have is just as mixed as our genetic makeup. So it appears as if we have none.
Proudly South African
Proudly Coloured
Rustige dag of nag mense
What I see is they want so bad to be accepted as white and because you will never be accepted as white and you absolutely dont want to be black than I will try to be something else completely black Americans have been down this road doesn't work
Black Americans were o ce colored it doesn't work
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Lol catherine sterling you are sick
@Catherine Sterling. This ain't America.
I have worked in retail for years and worked with different types of races and customers. And I can say without a doubt that every single race is racist, not that bullshit of I am not a racist. I'm not saying hardcore racist but racist in a way where we have learned not to show it. If it makes sense...
Only white people can be racist as they invented the system.
It does make sense.
I look at it like this. In every single country on this world , there are good people, there are bad people and there are stupid people. Not everybody is racist. Racism is more prevalent among stupid and bad people. We all belong to the human race , each and everyone.
@@brigittea5110 Yes; Many bigots and narrow minded people everywhere.
Don't lie. White and coloureds have turned that hatred towards black people to culture. That they pass its to next generations. 🖕
Whenever someone says they’re going to educate their family you can feel the condescension drip like dew
Do you believe that orange Africans exists. We have proof of the existence of orange Africans on this channel
My late mom was mixed White and Black, regarded as coloured in the community, my late father was a very dark Indian, I was registered as Cape Malay, 🧐🙄🥴, my hair is very curly not straight, my skin tone is more yellowish than brown, not even light skinned.🤪, I was called all sorts of names.. yes racism is still alive, from all my different families of the different nations,.. I have them all.. I know who my my Heavenly Father is.❤️ that's what makes me to survive in this evil world.
i like how the one girl mentions white supremecy, when lots of coloured girls first choice is a fair skinned coloured guy or better yet a white guy, when growing up their mothers told them "hy moet mooi wit lyk"
This is not true in the black community maybe but not always the light woman be may be picked but the dark skin black man is the preferred one and picked first the lightskin black man is sometimes considered weak not as strong as the dark one
Lol that's not true..my parents never told me that
@@angeliquejanuary6466 and since it feels like we are going back into apartheid again I don't think coloureds wants to be white or light skin anymore..maybe he is thinking in those white apartheid years
@@angeliquejanuary6466
Link to the post?
The lady in a white jacket said it best... we're all victims of corporate and political corruption
All races have racist people. We are not black we are coloured. If every other race can be proud to say they are black, they are white. Why should coloured people be ashamed of their race. Don’t gimme that we are one race the human race we are in SA. The reality is we are still categorized according to our race. When I fill out the employment equity form what do you think I fill out when asked race ? Black ? 😆 Asian ? I’m a coloured so I identify as coloured. I am proud of my identity.
That true they shouldn't give us that the human race kak
Good for you beautiful lady. I'm proudly Coloured too.
You are pretty ❤❤❤
Colored isn't a race. It doesn't exist return back to Asia nasty hybrid.
@@kennykross3306 thank you my brother
The English the colored South African speak is different from black South African.
How are they different🤔??
Raan Chol. Not really. It depends which area you live in. Coloured accents from Cape Town is different to that of KZN.
Even amongst the Zulu tribe there are some different dialects from some in Northern and Southern Zululand (KZN).
We are all black
@@lilonkemgidlana3360 lol you wish
@@lilonkemgidlana3360 hahahahahah keep dreaming,we are all Africans yes not black,there's black people in India and Asia not native to Africa,are they african ??? To be african means to be native to Afrika not to have black skin
I am Cameroonian and studied in Cape Town, South Africa. I've never been more aware of my race than while in Cape Town.l was surprised that coloured classmates kept saying they are not black and in fact got angry if I tried to label them as such although I later met a colored man who after studies in the US now understood he was in fact Black
i am colored and proud of it we are not black
@@bari7218 you're like a cocktail of races...yah u are black n asian and european...but theres nothing wrong with that
I'm curious what did you study a marsters in stupidity? Who are you to tell people what race they are? Because they look a certain way they are black now? Coloured people/mixed raced people aren't white, black, Asian whichever other race YOU think we are stop acting so superior to us. We are coloured period.
@@Saint_Augustus call it what you want and insult me all you want. It proves how shallow and stupid you are. When you don't have a point,you sink to the depth of a gutter level (your type belong there anyway). Have a good day fool
Do you believe that orange Africans exists. We have proof of the existence of orange Africans on this channel
I'm happy this conversation exists. I wish issues affecting our social landscape should be given bigger platforms. I liked Simone Cornelius' explanations, but I just want to ask, what's the difference between racism and being anti-black?.
This is all so sad. My mom was mixed so we would be considered coloured. But on the other hand my son is really dark and my daughter has light skin. So my son is black but my daughter coloured? Thats messed up. I am from suriname living in the Nederlands. In both countries I am just considered a black/brown surinaamse.
That's how it would've worked in apartheid but not any more
Lightskin doesn't=coloured. You're all black
I was born a privileged coloured from Zimbabwe but moved to the US at a very young age..my family was very racist though..it seemed to be almost in the blood..I was taught from a young that I was better than the black Africans that were our servants and drivers..but then you come to America and the blacks say your not black enough and the whites say your not white enough.i was accepted more by the whites and I naturally gravitated to them..we had more in common..all the racism I've faced has been from American black ppl..so one literally feels like an alien..I was such a confused boy even till this day at 33 it's very hard to let go of things taught to me as a child
Ur equally racist too including ur family, white men worshipper.
@@kennykross3306 Thanks Ken!!
@@colinthompson426
I suppose you won't and don't call yourself sn African American.
@@maureenjackson2041 No I wouldn't I'm a coloured African..born in Africa. Black people born in America are black Americans, just like a white person born in America is a white american.
You're a white troll🙄
Being raised in a coloured community with most of my family members from my father's side being coloured, I can attest yes there is racism in the coloured community but most of my family members aren't racist to be honest i think maybe because we practice african tradition and religion. However recently my niece got fired from work because her manager didn't appreciate her being coloured and that shattered my heart because I know she is not racist. So coloureds institutionally do face racism the company I work for don't hire coloureds specifically light skinned coloureds because my late white CEO believed that coloureds are stupid and violent something we argued about.
Coloured people face structural racism. I found this quite striking. I'm a fair skinned Coloured which comes with its own set of complexities. I've had to reintegrate into student life and Campus life this year as a senior student on a predominantly white tertiary institution and the institutionalised RACISM is highly problematic, still so pervasive aaaanddd oh so DANGEROUS and needs urgent attention and redressing. I've experienced Coloured projected racism and have great empathy for that. I do however feel that there is a greater, more urgent need for Coloured emotional awareness so that we as Coloured people can identify our historical triggers of feeling disenfranchised and done wrong by in order for Coloured people, me included, to just know how to better channel our energies, efforts and emotions when we are TRIGGERED
Oh gawd leftist eternal victim-hood.. go study at a black university then if you find whites problematic..
You wouldn't be so triggered if you had a purpose higher than being a victim
@Brian Abisdid : you have to born in SA/Africa to understand the complexities of race,tribe,skin colour and class. The is even xenophobia amongst Africans and tribalism.bringing a Jamaican mindset into this complexity is like an Ant 🐜 trying to have sex with a Elephant hoping to be felt and have impregnation??? It won't make sense to you Sir????
You 'Coloureds' are not marginalised please don't lie. God says don't lie. 'Coloureds' have nice jobs look at Jessie Duarte she is 'Coloured' she even Identifies herself as one yet she works for ANC secretary general the most important position in ANC which you guys hate very much only because there are too many black people but If a party is mostly racist white party you vote for one to attack very innocent black South Africans!! Look at Kyknet, VIA, SABC 2, SABC 3, Flieknet the 'Coloured' actors are treated with respect and they have been portraying your race as normal South Africans!
You aing making sence .i waved colords many times and they faced other sides .Kinda saw me different from them you dig? I tried them on internet saw am og black they blocked me .Catfished them they replied in a fair complexion .they racist
I would like for everyone on this channel to research the "Willy Lynch Method"' by a white man giving advice on how to divide black people by the color of their skin.
@Sun Kem i agree The infamous Willy Lynch letter is an excellent place to start.1 did some research in 2011 and came across that laetter pure evil & the moind of a demon that Willie Lynch had.The reason we all dont have an understanding is because of the evil of slavery.They have put us against each other so that we cant stand together as one.Watch the willy Lynch part 1 & 2 on you tube it will make you cry .Brainwashing
As another commenter below has said.. we are ALL racist.. we all want to be with our own people (even the ones that aren't the same color as us) We like 'our kinda people' and dislike the others.. it's just the way it is. Politeness and social cohesion has to do with commerce.. but if you don't need something from someone, and you don't like them.. you gonna say as much.. regardless of the color.
Preach!
First off all IM NOT BLACK . I'm coloured .
& Secondly coloured people get disrespected so much even on social media platforms and TV , but no one does something about it . I live in a country that hides my people and our history of what we also went through in apartheid . Our story's are not known and this is wrong . Black people did not fight alone , we all did .
100%. What irritates me are idiots such as these so called coloureds in the video that further feed into black peoples victim mentality whilst pushing down their own people
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Fucking thank you. I don't care what I am anymore I just want to know the truth
Unnecessary..i bet you didn't study south african history yet...go back to Grade 6
@@leonbiyata7716 So then tell her what books/subjects to study instead portraying egotistical behaviour. Only dogs and 3 year olds act this emotional full of entitlement, and you know what else they do? Shit on the carpet.
The answer to this has many layers, it's never just a simple yes, or a simple no. But if I was pushed to answer with just a yes or no, it would be yes.
I’m a mixed race American with one black parent and one white parent. Are biracial ppl in South Africa also considered colored?
You would fall under the mixed raced category, not Coloured. Coloured is a race. Kids born from Black and Coloured parents are also technically mixed raced but I'm sure parents assign them as black upon birth. I know siblings who are mixed with black and white, their parents assigned them as black because their father is Zulu. So because of patriarchy rule, the kids took their father's race and culture. They can't be Coloured because they are not living the Coloured experience and culture.
I am a white person. Did I get a secret pre-birth visit asking me what my colour preference would be for the birth, no of course not, only God knows what you will be and how you will fulfill your role in His plan for your life. I just don't understand the whole issue about race, the real difference is about culture and has absolute nothing to do with the colour of our skins. If we were all born green we would still have differences, so just stop blaming everything on race. Let us rather respect that cultures differ and live with it!
What a joke 😂 they only interviewed activist students and musicians. Two groups that know no nothing of the real world and of holding a job.
Shame
Cameron Biggs I don’t think they interviewed anyone, this is a bunch of staged propaganda bullshit!! The liberal, socialist disease that is destroying the west has infected the minds of South African youths.
Fuck you I'm an activist student ek sal jou opfok
And exactly what do u know of the real world ?
very interesting interesting topic growing as a black guy I always get mistaken for being coloured but I really didn't pay attention to it cause I saw coloured and black the same thing but now I see there's a whole lot I don't know.
Coloured and black are european labels meant to divide us...what is a coloured im a khoikhoi and what us a black ? You're a Nguni
I lived in bloem for 5 years, no white person ever called me kaffir. I had a great coloured friend whom I visited in 2015 for the whole December, I was called kaffir 3 times in 4 days, I was also called bantu, but over and above the rest where great people
Blame the colonizers for this!
Every race group in sa still harbour hate for each other! coloured racism, however, continues after coloureds leave the country to live and work abroad. I've been a british citizen for 17 years now and my racist light skinned in laws still refer to us as "coloured" because they naturally pass as poor white here in England. our connections (mates) who visit still degrade south africa and the native population by referring to them using the k word. We need to raise our children not to see colour first so there is a hopeful path forward.
It's normal that "Coloured" people are racist. They are descents from Portuguese, Dutch, Indians and some of them maybe British. They have half blood of native African. The Europe is a continent who has the most long history of racism, and India also has a long history of racism. Here we talking about Romans. And also Hindu.
I am white. I will admit that white people can be racist. Perhaps subconsciously so.
But you should hear how black Americans talk about Chinese people! Calling them "chinks" and so on. They don't even hide it or sugarcoat it.
And the way they talk about Jews!
Yes important conversations to be had but the question is to what end.how does it help to forever pointing out the problem when no one is actually doing nothing to solve it and yes as much as people believe this is a problem to be solved on bended knees ...seriously snap out of it and realise this begins in one's mind when you have managed to imprison yourself it does not matter how much acceptance you are given because you still behave like an imposter.This is power that resides within you a power that is unspoken that speaks for you when the others take a how to you in their hearts because they know who you are and less to do with the tone of your skin.I mean clearly it cannot be about black and coloured as coloured themselves still discriminate amongst each other in terms of language skin tone even hair texture...omg this is so deep
I always find it interesting to see how different white nations decided to interact with and categorize the ppl they chose to oppress. Here in the USA, everyone who spoke would have been considered black due to the one drop rule. However, they would be light skinned, or biracial, or quadroon (in Louisiana way back when), etc. And as "light skinned" black ppl, they would be treated better due to their proximity to whiteness.
Not quite true.
In NYC, where I am from, people don't consider Puerto Ricans or Dominicans or Cubans to be "black." Even though they have African DNA.
They are just considered.... Hispanic, I guess.
"Both groups are suffering" well put my love, you are a legend.
Hi all, I am a little confused now because it is now concidered to be a racist statement when using the word coloured. Much like the word half cast which is not to be used now as it is deemed to be offensive so the words mixed race have to be used or mixed heritage.
There will be a point in the future where these terms will also be frowned upon and a new term will be invented! All the terms above have been used and 99% of the time they would have been used in a non racist way much the same as the word Black. Hope you get my point here guys.
My grandmother was called colored and she was black America my great grandfather was called colored also black American you all have the Same mindset My ancestors had in the early 20 th century doesn’t matter what they call you it matters how they treat you look like to me your treated as a black person
Jesus once said something like : if you hate your brother (fellow human being) without a cause, you're in danger of hell. So haters be warned, everything has consequences. Haters will be punished for their evil racism. God hates racism. Read the Bible (Numbers 12)and see what HE did to a racist who was complaining about Moses' black wife from Africa.
I'm a very l8ght-skinned person in the USA considered "Black" here though my birth certificate says "colored" . What would I be considered in South Africa ?. Just asking.
I'm Tanzania living in Cape town for 1999 I have 6 so called coloured children and I'm called African so I don't understand what is coloured and what is black in this country 🤐
Dude! If you are black then your kids are black because you'll be also giving them your surname which falls under a certain tribe which is black
Did you married a white woman or coloured woman
Coloured are mixed! Period!
I am from Colombia, so, watching this i think: are All the colombians colored?
Yes in south africa you would be identified as coloured .
Coloured means mixed race in SA or Southern Africa. Are colombians mixed race?
Colored means Mestizo.
what about all the racist Blacks????
Blacks??👀
@@yenzilezizipho4502 go be triggered somewhere else
This is a bit biased. Let's hear from the actual racist Coloureds.
These two lesbian Marxist activists are the definition of biased. I'd love to see them share a platform with conservative Coloureds or Gatvol Capetonian but they never will because they are closed minded arrogant cowards.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 voetcheck
Don't deny the truth it's going to come back to haunt you guys. This video is not biased it's based on true story. Gatvol Capetonian is a biased racist movement aimed to kick black African people out of the Western Cape even though we did nothing to them. I understand that there is little service delivery in 'Coloured' areas and they blame the ANC and black Africans yet Western Cape is run by Democratic Alliance the dominantly white liberal/Conservative, colour blind party so don't blame the ANC because they have no power in the Western Cape, the Democratic Alliance is to blame. The Democratic Alliance is using you guys as tools ⚙️ they said there is 0 delivery service problems yet there is too many in 'Coloured' and black African areas so it's all Democratic Alliance propaganda.
@@siderilegreshileyi57 I agree with you bit now u assuming DA controls National Police and National government...DA still have to ask ANC for police or army and they don't send enough...yes DA runs provincial level but Nationally it's ANC...
@@siderilegreshileyi57 ask yourself,how's life for coloureds im DA run western cape compared to coloureds in the other ANC run provinces...is it a coincidence Eastern Cape migrants are flocking to western cape for better opportunities? Why don't they go to other ANC run provinces ? Lol 😆🤣I'll leave u with that,DA is the lesser evil between the two...why u think DA has hold on the western cape lol unlike other provinces where coloureds just had to accept anc and their oppression and fovour of blacks over coloureds us coloureds know ANC intentions lol not to help us but to help other black people in kzn,eastern cape settle in western cape on khoi lands...and we will not allow thst hence today DA still run western cape...we can see our fellow coloureds in the rest of south africa being used by blacks and u want us to submit to bantu supremacy hahahaha ANC will not get out khoi lands for thr day ANC takes control they'll classify us natives as Bantu,assimilating us thereafter we can't claim land over rhe real bantus...we'll then be the slaves for black bantu tribe and it will not happen lol
3:53 this girlie doesnt understand how tightly actual corporates are policed and how little policing goes towards state, if she did, it'd be extremely easy to see that the corruption is squarely with the black state.
The mere fact that the ANC has highlighted the issue of race in the new South Africa is the basis of racism. We are still an oppressed group which gives us the right to resist our oppressor, be he white or black.
We've always been in the middle
@Donce Ghust hell does that mean
@Donce Ghust what are you guys exactly? Egyptians? Hebrew Israelite? Original Americans? Sounds like an identity crisis to me along with self hate.
@@angeliquejanuary6466 😂😂😂 Zulus from Compton. Online all them claim to be lighter than us as if that's some kind of achievement. My friends and family who's been there said they look more like Nigerians than even our black people here. They really hate themselves.
This is crazy, we have really been messed up mentally. This argument makes no sense
During the apartheid we coloured were black after we won against apartheid we were no longer blacks ,.Once bitten twice shy
They say we're black , that is SECOND CLASS blacks .
This was like an intellectual love letter to my soul. Ladies could please be so kind to post more and maybe just add the contributors names and social media handles in the description bar. I love stalking smart Khoi-San descendants .
I feel like this is not a fair representation of all coloured people but rather those who have an apple to pick? As if you can't hear racial undertones and condescension... please educate us who didn't go to UCT or become an activist?
1985 I was one of them stone throwers iup in Mitchell's plain AZ Berman highway across the bridge merry Dale leading to spine dale a lot my brothas fell I was a active src' trying to get the newbies standard sixes in the demos toi toi rallying in Rockland s etc in bonteheuwel I attented one my biggest gatherings I finished my matric long years ago do people rember young brothas like Ashley kriel? This current government did absolutely nothing for our people in our anc is taboo prohibited banned look at our people on the cape flats do they wanna live like this or are they just victims a handful of us got lucky and made and the rest or completely banished from society my heart is broken things were actually better under apartheid
When Coloured people in the ANC ran the Western Cape province; Coloured people joined in with Whites to overthrow Coloured leaders of the Western Cape because they believed White people will do a better job than their own kind.
As during Apartheid and now, Coloured people mentally shift the blame to Black people when it is White people running the provincial government.
Yes Coloureds are racists and they're forgetting that they had it better during apartheid. Even when we welcome them, they believe they are better. And they shouldn't lie and say they are descendents of the Nama, the Khoi and the Sans because we're part of those tribes. Basarwa are part of the black Batswana. So the Coloureds should check themselves.
Some coloureds are racist , most blacks are also racist .
@@Scar_7.62 all coloreds are racist. Some black people are slightly angry towards coloreds.
No one is of one race/ethnicity. Proportioning is quite exhausting and annoying! It only serves to divide humanity and conquer 1 portion at a time!! Where's the Unity?
Alot of Coloured people look Polynesian. Specifically Samoans and Tongans
bantu don't ever accept these people.
Who is that, bantu?
tigress4960 ethnic group
You remind me of Poop ,son of toilet.
@@blackfox4526 linguistic
@@victormedupepeters7248 😆 and I'm Zulu ,lol
LOVE THIS VIDEO - WATCHIN FROM DENMARK
1:07 is indian
This is a very interesting conversation, a conversation that we definitely need to have, considering all the race hate this country. I wish that we mix more as various communities to understand one another,great work guys.
Thecworld shoukd accept coloureds/mixed are in the in the middle of 2 races and should not be be forced to choose, even though they face rejection from everywhere. Basically africans hv tribes and mixed cultures, whites also hav different tribes, german, scots, welsch etc etc so coloured/mixed belong to their tribe called Mixed Race, not colour of skin so why can t people worldwide accept that and respect eachother with our differences, we can learn from eachother. And about whites giving coloureds/mixed favouur and alittlr priviledge, was this not because they did that to cover the guilt they felt to apease their children they brought intonthis world, Just a thought???
Nothing good to say about their own people. Ons is arme mense met nike maar ons is racist.
soe true
All humans are tribal... so if you are human, you will be racist...
We are marginalized by the black majority thats why we are angry. Black people have all the awareness of land sovereignty complete control of the fiscus but still do not grant coloured people their own determination.
How are you marginalized when 64% of the very same people you're talking about live in poverty. THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF THE ECONOMY. You're so crass that you don't even take your time to do your research on what's going on in this country. You're fighting the wrong people here. That's why it's important to read, even if it's just a pamphlet READ!!!!
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So according to one guy, Africans had skirmishes and wars between them but they lived peacefully. Right.
2:02 come on lady I'm west african and I'm lighter than you.
Still waiting for that point you was trying to prove...don't worry i can wait,take your time
Well I think you should learn to value each and every individuals opinion regards to this but how do we learn to coexist? how do we learn to let go of the past because if the past always brings separation and distraction in the present time.How do we teach our children to embrace one other and learn from each other because I am afraid that as a species we won't evolve because of this thinking we have participated in ourselves.We have caused this, we have made Hendrik Verwoerd one of the greatest politic sociologist of our time an ignorant man that died 6 September 1966.Anyone you always have a choice racist or not I am open to learn from you#
OMG it's 666, I never noticed this.
Its embarrassing...self hate.
If your father is pure white and your mother is pure black, are you considered coloured?
no, you’re just biracial then x coloured isn’t just a race, it’s an entire culture
@@user-rz5ew2ft8h Jou mase biracial.
@@jamesleigh6166 i tried explaining it in the nicest way possible but okay then?
@@user-rz5ew2ft8h Sorry, many apologies. it was a joke by Trevor Noah I thought about.
2:17
The punch bag of the both sides...what a nightmare!
Are coloured people racist?
Me: Yes...end.
Btw I am a coloured girl.
Racism can come from anyone
@@adamj1264A typical racist deflecting and being defensive
I'm confused, never met a coloured individual before., what are they racist for? I mean as for white people we know the drill, but as for you my fellow coloured people, I really don't get it.
What do you mean are Coloureds racist? 😒. Every single race group has racist people.
I've never seen a coloured human in my life!
Good for u who acc cares
I think this is were their a black denialism comes from bc black is K to them, and black doesn't mean Bantu and they are surrounded by Bantu so they think they have no black identity but black doesn't mean Bantu
What?
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1:26 your own identity is better than anothers, thats not predjudice unless you look down on someone else for benig an identity in such away that they are not allowed to also think themselvse better
They are not black..
They may not consider themselves black but they are sure treated like there black
@@catherinesterling1685 soo true
Maybe they are not black in South Africa but in the rest of the world they will be seen as black
@@catherinesterling1685 no ways , genetically they look different most of them
Coloured people, aren't racist, due to the fact that blacks, Indians and coloureds are brown, we are generically the brown race, but most are colorists where they hate you becuz ur darker than them, they hate you becuz you speak a different language, you're not fair skinned where how odd some coloureds are darker than some black ppl have the same hair texture but still think they are better becuz of the accent, why is everyone afraid to be black yet you litsen to our music, dress like us, use our lingo but get so affected when anyone says you are black,
If being classified as black is so bad, why is copying us not bad either, why is our music house music not bad as well,
We need each other to co exist in this world, we need all races to become a better human race, why is being a certain race so shamed upon, why is race even a factor....?
Lol so black people aren't using things or like stuff white and other races created? why do black people always want to be seen as special while they have been literally colonized by white people and treated as their slaves
And not one coloured person with an African surname or first name and yet you all talk about closing the racial divide with black Africans.🤔
Asking this an outsider after spending 9 weeks in Cape Town last year, but what examples of white supremacy are there in SA considering the ANC are running the country and BEE is major obstacle for whites to find employment? I appreciate that there is still substantial wealth owned by whites. I'm genuinely trying to understand so keep it civil please 😂
The fact that the only point you came up with was BEE, which is meant to redress the economic inequalities caused by Apartheid and colonization( 400 YEARS). Where Africans were excluded in participating in their economic development and growth in their own land, resources and wealth, STOLEN by the same perpetrators! The audacity to want us to move on into a new South Africa but are still benefiting off our stolen wealth and resources, and still have them. 😂you are a bold European product
SAME exact play the Europeans executed in the Americas with Light skinned 'Colored' , Creole , 'Mulattoes" and Black people.
Capetown 'Coloureds' ja. Black as a race is European ideolog. We are brown.
Coloureds who are prejudiced against blacks, shouldn't claim an African identity, they should just be South African.
Afrikaners who rightwing are definitely not African.
1:50 this is bull, the khoi and san occupied this country for 100 000 years they were the first people ever. Black people are us.
Overwhelming YES.
I can see the confusion in these coloured people, they have that European spirit about them, that is clear to see. JUST LOOK DEEP INTO THEIR SPIRIT.
They want to be European so bad but Europeans made it clear they dont want them otherwise they would have given them the European tag
Lol @thabile. I wouldnt wana be claimed by a race that is scraping the barrel so badly that every other race on this planet hates them.
@@catherinesterling1685 lol did you know that alot of coloured people were reclassified as white during apartheid? even black, indians and white people were reclassified..and btw we are not trying to be white or black
@@thabilesempe9264 don't be ignorant
@@laylalays7290 you are stupid
No but the Bantus are
It good ur ashamed of this
If you were called 'Hottentots' you wouldn't like it so STFU!
I am not racist and you can't call black South Africans 'Bantu' which is derogatory! If you were called 'Hottentots' you wouldn't like it at all.
Urgh why am I not surprised because dis al wat julle ken. Yerrr you guys literally discriminate against them because that's what the white man taught you. You just used bantu as an alternative for the k-word
What is the “k” word? I’m sorry if I don’t know I’m from the states and a Mexican so I only know about Hispanic/latino people and black people the south East don’t have to many Asians of people from the Middle East
Kaffir, a derogatory term that was used to refer to a black African
Similar to the N word
I’m African American I don’t understand this at all .. let me say this loud .. YOur BLACK….!in America/Europe/Asia/the islands/// your are black only in South Africa this colored stuff makes sense
All the yt man see is BLACK. PERIOD
Listen now once and for all everybody is racist everybody out there
Kaffir means non believer
No you replace 'i' then put 'e' then its a derogatory racist word!
@@siderilegreshileyi57 Its spelled the same and has same meaning but was turned into a slur when in fact its always meant non believer
Well put you guys. Thank you