South Africa's coloured community: 'Still marginalised after apartheid' - BBC Africa
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- South Africa’s coloured community, the official term for mixed-race people in the country, were alienated during the country’s apartheid regime.
Many in the community now feel that the current democracy also marginalises them - that they “aren’t black enough”.
Violent protests recently rocked coloured communities across South Africa.
Fed up with gangs, drugs and unemployment, residents took their frustration to the streets.
The BBC’s Vauldi Carelse went to find out what’s at the heart of this anger.
Video journalist: Christian Parkinson
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George Orwell - 'The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.'
We waz Kangz and sheeeeet.
-White supremacists trolls
@Benaiah Ahmadinejad Its people like you that is tearing the country apart. What is it you really want to make this country great ?
WHAT WOULD FIX THIS COUNTRY AND EVERYONE LIVE IN PEACE ?
@@lisafoster1550 gross inequities, which is the status quo, will never inacted by whites. Therefore, we have a duty to make certain these things are corrected to our satisfaction, after all the land belongs to Black/Indigenous Africans, not these squatting, murderous, thieves.
@world peace if you do your research you will know over %80 of black kids grow up not knowing who there father is. Where almost %100 white kids grow up with a father. I'm sure you have a few you never met.
As an,American you should be ashamed that you support the oppression of colureds by black south africans. I'm sure you also support the black African on white genocide there. I support the civil and human rights of everyone!!! And so did Martin Luther King
this is crazy to watch. All of these ppl are considered black here in the U.S
Amalgamaite know ur history, but I don’t think u live here
we brown my man or mixed ....black is different what do you call Mexicans or south americans black aswell cause there is a clear difference.
Yes also in the UK
@Zeeqtee Prn The coloured category was created by the colonialists and apartheid government, originally coloureds were non-black people who had khoisan, malaysian heritage, but with time mixed race people came out looking like coloured and joined in and some light and sometimes dark-skinned blacks jumped over to that category because it came with privileges. South African race pyramid was set like this- Black, Indian, Coloured and Black...the darker the skin the fucked-up your life was gonna be.
Nah they bi racial
1992: I am coloured, but towards being white
1995: I am coloured, but towards being black
Nah man. I ain't black or white. I'm the rainbow desmond tutu always wanted.
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
@@evolvedanimeisland thats my issue. Sold us out to the white man? Where did you here that? That kind of false information is actually why many coloureds are being undermined in the current South Africa. My uncles went to jail fighting against apartheid. But no one really talks about the coloured or Indian who were part of the struggle. Shame on you. I dont look black and i dont look white. The earth isn't just made of of black or white. There are the asians, latins, arabs and so forth. Shame on you. You are one of the problems.
@@evolvedanimeisland it seems you dont know what a coloured is. Not all coloureds have black heritage and not all coloureds have white heritage.
@@davidfoster989 dude they at one point called Niggas in America colored.........now its African American. You guys just need to grow the fuck up and be who you are. No one determine where you go in life but you........and if 1 of your parents is black you a nigga
“Not Black enough not white enough”. Are they humans enough?
An other bad effect of apartheid ideology. Divide to rule.
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They are, but the people who run South Africa aren't. They're baby-boiling SJWs.
@@Dennis-nc3vw didn’t i see u in another video about south africa
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South Africa is so racialized that even the mixed people have their own accent.😂😂
Lmao true though lol
@Michaela Landers that's amazing.
@Zeeqtee Prn Funny and sad at the same time😂😢
😂😂😂😂😂am weak
💀
1988: Im not black im coloured.
2018: im not coloured im black
@d puski That country belongs to the natives so whatever they want to do with it is their business
@d puski
let them eat grass
Don't side then lmao watch f... each other up
Your ma se poes, and you naaiers are not a fuck the natives you been lieng so poes long its a real thing to you , where did the bantu come from uhm ill wait... And you naaiers believes use can finish us? We will see. I cant wait for this kak to go down
exacly! you can nNEVER trust a half breed. he will switch on you and betray you any time it suits him. no loyalty from them.
I'm a coloured , and i'm proud to be one. PERIOD .
what is coloured? are you African? what is it about you that makes you African?
PREACH BROTHER!
Black? White?
Kkkkk coloreds are Racist towards us blacks they see themselves as White's. Watch that movie called for Coloreds Girls.
There is no History of Coloreds.
@@theonly6359 the native Africans were classified as coloured since 1950 so to answer ur question yes...coloured is an umbrella term for lot of races and native tribes...you can be coloured and not African like the Cape malays etc and you can be Coloured and African like us hottentots and bushmen people how they love to call us...
'Coloured' is a colonial construct, but it's more of a language issue in South Africa than what a person looks like. To be considered 'black' by the majority population, it's assumed you belong to an indigenous ethnic group and culture (for example, Zulu, Xhosa, etc.) and speak an African language. Most 'Coloured' people speak only Afrikaans and/or English and obviously don't practise African tribal customs. Also, under apartheid, black people had to carry pass books, whereas coloureds did not. So even though coloureds suffered discrimination, the government put a wedge between them and the black majority by allowing 'Coloureds' a bit more 'privilege'. The old divide and rule tactic. And what we see are the consequences. Aluta continua!
Well put💯
Nothing strange that the european colonizers accorded a honorary white status to these "biracial black people" this a practice they have carried out everywhere they went. Notice how great attention is given to the "biracial" Bob Marley of the WAILERS while his darker skin counterparts Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer are ignored.
Yes this is exactly the issue. Coloured people don't know what they are and this is exactly by design with the deliberate segregation between black and mixed by placing them a bit of above being black on the social hierarchy and speak Afrikaans or English. This creates obvious tensions between the black and coloured communities and creates a class of people that wants to be anything but black and perceived by the black community as such.
It is of opinion that the Coloured people had it easier, not fact. How did coloured people have it easier?
@@chialuchia1745 'Coloureds' only had it 'easier' because they didn't have to carry official documents granting them 'permission' to be in an urban area (known as the pass system). Police used to arrest hundreds of black people daily in the cities if they couldn't show the right documentation. They would then put them on busses 'back' to their rural so-called 'Homelands' - even if they'd been born in the city. Black families were broken up because of these inhuman laws. In short, coloured people were not subject to these particular apartheid laws - even though they were restricted and discriminated against.
So, Obama and Beyonce is not considered black in South Africa. 🤔
No hes coloured in SA
They wouldn't meet the government's definition of black because they weren't living in South Africa as blacks under apartheid. The would just be Americans.
by the black community they are considered black, but I've heard some coloureds claiming them to be coloured which is strange...lol it's a crazy world.
alterego speaks most African Americans wouldn't be considered black outside of America
Obama is biracial , Bey is black. And if you are poor and live in a messed up community don't have kids!!!!!!!
South Africa and Brazil have strong similarities...the accent, ethnicity, most of the youths are unemployed, gang violence.
Multiracial countries are always doomed to failure.
@@antoinelerie4452 not true. Mexico is solidly united with a predominant Mestizo culture.
@@antoinelerie4452 not multiracial, but multicultural
@@justonetime6179 Venezuela and Nicaragua are multiracial, not multicultural.
@@GaryHField Of yes, Mexico is absolutely not a dangerous country. It's so safe!
The khoi San are black and African with rough hair, everyone thinks Africans we're all dark skinned.. everyone wants disassociate khoi San from being black,khoi is a tribe just like Pedi, Zulu,tsonga etc...it's a tribe!
Been saying but people won't agree
It's true!!!!!
Exactly and the thing is people are so stereotypical about Africans we look different, have different hair textures doesn't make us any less African nor black even
I don't know why Africa is so divided. Its so sad even some "coloured" people forget they're African in the first place. And I quote SOME for the people who will disagree. Identity crisis sucks
Khoisan have entirely different DNA from black South Africans who are Bantu tribes such as Zulu and Xhosa who committed genocide against the Khoisan long ago.
It's sad to see a country so racialized and divided while it has the potential to be an economic giant and get all of their people live together and united.
The fact that the country is "racialized and divided" is abhorrent but it is by no means preventing the country from being an economic giant. The desperate economic situation this country is in has been caused by the ruling party's blatant corruption and theft.
Not much different from the USA really.
or any other colonized country@@tudormiller887
People of different races are not suppose to live with eachother
I'm a Coloured from Zimbabwe.. We never had that kind of problem.. The problem with SA coloureds is that they think they are much more Better than others and they have a sense of superior and closer to Whites.. They wanna benefit from both sides.. They must stop blaming other people for their drug weakness.. It started during apartheid days.. They hate Law .. But they play victims.. They kills each other and they blame the Gvt.. We have a worse Economic situation in Zimbabwe but doing illegal business and Gangsterism is by choice...
True brother
Whatever you say is true.Truth hurts.
Embrace everyone race or nationality of color don't be so quick to past judgment understand that regardless of the race (black or coloured) the struggle remains the same... there's power in numbers and weakness in separation
They separate themselves from the mass
@@africatshinaka4607 because they feel excluded and forgotten
I have many issues with this documentary. It seems to have lots of holes. But what I'd like to focus on is by first saying any platform that gives *SOUTH AFRICANS* a voice is appreciated. My concern is that the issues raised were national issues not race issues. She says unemployment in black communities is far higher than in coloured communities yet still insinuates it's because the government is marginalizing coloured? How if black communities have a higher unemployment rate? Crime, drugs, prostitution happens in poor black communities too. Black communities have also taken things in their own hands and protested and tried to get rid of drug dealers.
Such documentaries such as this one from BBC news come and try divide the nation by imposing that the government is a racist one instead of a failing one. No our government has failed *SOUTH Africans* in westberry, in Alexandria blacks coloured Indians whites not only a race.
I stand against ppl who try divide SOUTH Africa. But I stand hand in hand with ppl who voice out their marginalized experiences! Black coloured or Indian.
Nomaswazi Madi (or white?)
@@ab-ul1yz yes and white. I mentioned white in the statement above. But my point is that SOUTH Africa belongs to ALL who live in it and identify as south african. Non is greater or more important than the over. All are equal. And if the government does not fail a race, it fails SOUTH Africans.
Nomaswazi Madi I agree!
Nomaswazi Madi The world needs more people like you
True
People in the comments coming for coloured people like " they would be black in usa or anywhere else" but when some coloureds try to acknowledge that they are in fact part black, it's the same people that confront them when they do say that they are also from black roots saying that they are not black enough.
Coloured people have more pressing matters, as can be seen in the video, to deal with than worrying about being identified as black. Nobody not black or white people know what it feels like to be a coloured and live in a community where you have to constantly worry for you and your family's safety.
I don't want to be known as a coloured tbh, it's sounds stupid. And I don't want to be called black either , I don't know wtf I am
We are all black.
@ThirdeyeStrike black people are treated better tho
@Nathz 213 "they were culturally wiped away by the black Bantu tribes whice is why it's easy to say thr Khoi are black"
Is that why Europeans found a thriving Khoi culture in the Cape, because it was wiped away by Bantu Africans.
People who say coloureds are black are crazy. Coloured people will never be black nor identify with blackness. It's not a coincidence that they vote for the DA and speak the language of the oppressors. They are just not black and that makes me happy😎
I have personally felt the most racial prejudice from "coloureds" than from any other race in SA. They are the only people that have made me feel like inferior and not worthy of being human because I'm black. The only time I was called a "k@f#" was by a coloured person. Those who don't relate only feel that way because they don't want to, and yet they want to be called black only that one time that it benefits them. The problems they talk about in this documentary are everywhere in SA
As a whole so they get treated better or worse than black people in SA
This is the same problem in America. People want to be Black only when it benefits them. You wasn't Black before don't be Black now
Their self hatred will hurt them more.
They hate the pride of black south africans how we havent lost our culture how we dobt need admixture to be beautiful.
Unfortunately insecure people like as you see here in the documentary will do everything to hurt those with ancestral pride.
That's why you'll see the leaders of anti black groups and anti black history spreading are coloureds.
Its envy dont let that get to you.
Atleast you have a culture a ancestors a pride.
so true.. hard to feel sorry for these people as a Black South African
@@oratilemakgaka8411Black Americans are down with the black South Africans. Those coluteds are not us
Black = mother tongue, eg. Xhosa, zulu, ect
Coloured = english and afrikaans mostly
Me being coloured speaks English, Zulu and khoza . Zulu from my African mother and English from my Irish dad Khosa because I lived in the western cape. thats me and I love me.And most of all God the father in heaven LOVES ME.
@@jeanetteoneill WTF is Khoza?
@@ingamgoduka57 they probably meant xhosa
@@noticememomo973yearsago3 If you can't pronounce Xhosa right you definitely 100% can't speak or understand Xhosa pronunciation is key in Xhosa it is the only language that almost impossible know if you did n't grow up with around your house or neighborhood.
@@ingamgoduka57 maybe a typo?
Let me add - South Africans should be proud of themselves for being honest about their racial categories! In other mixed countries they pretend that there are no divisions. In most multiracial countries with a large black population (and even in 'black' countries) everyone discriminates against the darker skinned or African looking black people. These other countries say that they do not racially discriminate and are not racist but they are! Two examples: Brazil and Jamaica! Darker skinned black people are marginalised and excluded because of their looks. The people who discriminate against them are white, coloured and black!!! Not just white people. The beautiful young black winner of Brazil's Carnival Queen competition was later told to step down by the organisers and give up her crown a few years ago because a lot of people complained that as a black girl, she was not worthy. She was not considered beautiful enough and she received a lot of abuse from white, black and coloured people. In modern times! In Jamaica it is difficult to get a smart job if you are dark skinned. A growing number of men and women have started bleaching their skin.
This type of discrimination happens all over the Caribbean, South and Central America, North America and in Caribbean communities in Europe! They don't deal with it, they just sweep it under the carpet and pretend there is no differentiation or division. It's much more open and honest in South Africa.
Yes, I read about that girl in Brazil. I was really shocked that people could actually do that in this age and time. Brazil is such a racist country not matter how much they try to portray as a racial democracy.
Do not talk about my country, in jamaica you can get whatever job if you are qualified and fyi whites makes up less than 1 percent of the population. I won't say my country is perfect but being black is a non factor when it comes on to getting a job. Jamaica has problems with discriminating against others who live in specific violent areas and also issue with classism.
Colourism was a big problem in Jamaica in the past and from what I commonly hear and see, it still is. It gives me hope to know that things have changed?/are changing? now in Jamaica. So hopefully nowadays, unlike in the past, people no longer prefer light skin to dark skin and all skin colours are appreciated. Respect.@@kanekiken00A
I do not praise this racial classifications in SA. It’s just divide and conquer by whites. Most of these colored are almost completely black but like to hang on to whatever drop of Europeans or other they have in them. They want to be as close to white as possible.
@@sueme55 I agree with what you are saying however us coloured people are proud to be coloured, when appriatet happened we suffered just as much as the black people because we weren't white, yet that name coloured doesn't enslave us anymore. We say that name with deep pride we don't complain about what people call us because coloured is just a word. Whites, black, coloureds who cares words only have meaning when we give it meaning, words are weapons when we decide it is. We care about action and the character of the the person. Today whites, blacks and coolureds all get along with every race in our country besides the odd few old people who are racist. Quick question are you from South Africa, that makes you feel offended by word coloured? Cause you don't hear about coloureds getting offended by the term coloured
God bless all of the people in South Africa.
No to zainophobia attack
Nah, I'm pretty sure "god" has given up on that shithole.
Theres no god u dumb person
Same
Im a Cape Colored. Me and my father are dark skinned. My mother and sister look European. Its common here for family members to differ in shade. But not all us do drugs. Come on man jir!
But you do smoke right😂😂😂😂 80%of coloureds smoke and most start at the age of 13-16
@@takesonetoknowone20003 Not all do
@@hmmmnope2455 when did i say all of them i said 80% coloureds smoke
@@takesonetoknowone20003 Sorry I didn't mean it in an aggressive way.
I meant just like how u said 80% do , not all do
@@hmmmnope2455 😑
This is fruit of colonialism. Divide and maintain your power and existence.
@Doven Ro Galus Conflicts existed not because of identity from color, but being identified as the "enemy" or "foreign" tribe (family) trying to take land because they were expanding as the human race.
Same thing in ancient Europe, ancient Asia and the America's. But that was "normal" ancient behaviour until these cultures began to unify themselves through culture, language, marriage, etc. Japan being the *best* example of unification.
Colorism and it's practice did not happen until the trans Atlantic slave trade, which saw a greater ad mixture in Africans and intensified as the generations became lighter.
Africans of different shades were treated differently, some reaping the best benefits of "passing"; Or being treated accordinly within the context of their varying degree of lightness, by the ruling class. That monster took on a life of it's own in the black community and has been passed down for 100+ years now.
"Redbone", "High yellow"; "Lite, bright", etc.; ALL modern forms of how mixed blacks are perceived, by blacks (in America). Not sure if this slang is used overseas, although people overseas do have their slang terms for people of African descent.
But still the same burden of being from a mixed heritage, resembling what the natives hate because of what "apartheid" aka segregation has afforded them, in their own homeland.
Haha no this is all black Africans doing. Whites haven't been in power for years
@Doven Ro Galus these people have the iq of a 3rd through 6th grader and as such they blame their own faults on someone else. Haiti had ruled itself for 200 years and they are the lowest iq in the western hemisphere but they will blame all their problems on anyone but themselves. This is not funny it is scary because it gives us a glimpse of the future.
@Jack John they need meaningful education and need farming technology and need to cancel debt from world bankers and nationalize their currency
@Doven Ro Galus do you live there? I'm surprised they are so racialzed given they were suppose to be a rainbow nation. I would have hoped a leader could focus them on social, human, economic, and other development instead of Malema and the media promoting racial and ethnic cleansing. The violence I've seen is appalling so the hatred they display comes from somewhere. They are still practicing apsrtheid i hear but the tables have turmed and the black rulers ate intent on pay back. Are they capable of living at a first world level? Unlikely. Societies with population IQs under 90 struggle everywhere.
Seems like most of these comments want to tell coloured people who they are and should be.
You're right Black
Yip yet they dont even know our struggle
Coloureds people don't know exactly what they are
No I don’t think they are trying to tell them who they are we are saying the world look at them as being black That’s a fact
@@isaysayi4342 how is your struggle different from blacks???🙄
The athaan in the background is soothing
This is crazy. My dad is originally from South Africa Cape Town, he moved to england with his parents and siblings when he was 2. They had to leave quickly as things were so terrible there. I'm very olived skinned with dark hair, I'm like my dad (my mum is white british) and i always wondered why my dad was dark but not black nor white looking. This has shocked me! But i have more of an insight to a bit of his background now.
I was a student teacher around Westbury last year and I do agree with some of the things being said here. The government has neglected this community, violent crimes and drug abuse are sky high and many live in poverty. There's something similar to "Afrophobia" around the area because most people there refuse to be called black. There were learners in my classroom that were darker than I am and when I referred to them as black or African they would jump out in protest and start listing their European lineage and discarding their African ancestors... Some tried to label me as coloured because of the texture of my hair. Anyways there is really a huge identify crisis the community is facing but they are a lovely bunch of people, I made some good friends there and I miss working that side.
There's nothing wrong about accepting both of your ancestries. And there's also coloureds which have malay and indian ancestries, so doesn't make any sense to only claim your black side.
@@RibeiroGames12 yes but they are African non the less. Nor different from African whites, African Arabs, African Indians...after the ancestors are appeased where one is born is their home which in my view make everyone born in Africa African...how can one be South African but not African...knowing ones ancestry is good but unity for today and tomorrow sake is paramount to success.
@@blackBateleur they don't say anything about their African side. They only pay attention on the side of one race , white. And I don't know how they know this because how they happen to be existing, is the same way that of KZN, E Cape, Lesotho ,N Cape etc but these guys reffered themselves into mother side of race, black or African.
They like saying they from scotland and europe and all these places . neveer heearf theem talk abt which sa blaack tribe theeirr ancestors were from🤣🤣 these ppl need to be left white and alone.
@@robyn8342 yeah , now they've become a nation of mixed race only in SA, quite pathetic
Why whenever there is content on coloureds you get predominately non-coloured ppl talking about their misconceptions of Coloureds ???!!!! Why do people have an issue with Coloureds recognising themeselves as a separate Ethnicity - which they are. You more than welcome to call coloureds black - this does not offend us as you assume. We our own tribe of Black, if I might add. We have our own social norms, we unravelling the erasure of our heritage and rediscovering our identity apart from political disturbance. Our history differs from others & it aint about skin colour for us which is why dark skin coloureds are accepted in our communities! Accept who we are, we not here expecting anyone to change their identity or stopping anyone from celebrating who they are.
You misunderstand. The issue at play here is not whether coloureds have freedom of association or expression. Black people are simply stating an often too common observation at the nature of Coloured people's views towards them. Black people fear that the coloured is by default predisposed to the nature of the White man's worldview, and wouldn't hesitate to see the black man in chains if it meant securing a permanent seat at the white man's table. I am sure given our recent history, you would understand black people's skepticism ...
THe Cape Malay are not a mix of any African tribe.
Racially most of these people are almost purely African descent and are black. Denial is an awful thing. Ethnicity is a different thing altogether. Zulus, Xhosa etc. are of different ethnic groups but they are all black just like some colored a are just black but belong to the colored ethnic group. To me SA colored are a mix of blacks who don’t belong to a tribe and biracial people.
RS Martinez they are people not half breeds and I know you’re not talking with the last name Martinez
True. We dont bother other races why get triggered by us being coloured and proud??
I'm from Mozambique, Africa, this people don't consider themselves black. They are mullatos/coloured. I also agree that they are not black, because most of them are result of interracial relationships. Most of the people considered blacks in USA and Europe can't be considered as such in Africa.
Their mixing come from slavery.
Ced Xxx So does the mixing of a lot of coloured people here in Africa. **cough** colonialism
@Iris Bos That's the thing though
Not all coloureds look black
Some could be white passing, black passing and some look mixed
Fascinating people. I really hope Luther succeeds. He is a gentleman.
This comment section is toxic.
It’s about race in South Africa, wtf did you expect?
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Trigger Warning: This Clip is About black racism. Trigger Warning
Welcome to South Africa
Just as toxic as this video
I'm a black South African, we have been trying to welcome you with open arms but if we are not what you want, it's cool, go forth and prosper in whatever you community you feel you'll fit in better into
You people try to make it about yourself. Fk off.
Do not be surprized about the behaviour of these "near white" south afrikans-in a system of oppression the oppressed will either identify with the struggle of the oppressed OR align themselves with the oppressor.
@@Angel-vv9xo exactly 🤣🤣🤣 I’m trying to make sense of this Refilwe girl’s comment, but I guess I’m too coloured to comprehend it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Refilwe, how is it that you need to welcome coloured people in anyway? Are you better? Haven't coloured people always been here? So explain how you've been trying to be welcoming?
You welcome us????
Let me rather keep quiet
This is my country SA
As mixed person from Somalia 🇸🇴, I never really had to grow through what my brothers & sisters in South Africa 🇿🇦 went through in terms of dealing with their own identity but I do feel for them 100%. It’s quite unfortunate what the apartheid regime has done to the society of SA & Southern Africa in general.
Somalia is a shithole
somalis people are nice people
I used to live South Africa it was really very good country had small business back in 2002 I saw it coming young black boys with gun come in my shop just scooting around and massive african and Asian immigrantion coming through the border of Mozambique..from 2001 until 2019.
People do not really know who we coloureds are in South Africa ; we are slaves that come from different nation that are just called coloureds during slavery time ; we are not a mix between European and African . We do have our own uncestors that was raped by Dutch ; as we arived 1600 at the Capetown Slave Lodge and Cape Castle Good Hope.
@Derek Chauvin still black
South Africa and South America Is so Similiar, The Coloureds and Hispanics, The people of mixed ethnicities, races and heritages. The people that have black, white, indian and other races bloods coursing through their veins. Countries, Towns and Cities all over the world that have people of Mixed backgrounds are almost exactly like this. Its Insane!!!
Be mixed and proud!
Can we just let coloured people identify however they want, black, coloured or white? I think our history owes them that much. We as black people and or white people will never understand what they go through because we have never had to go through that identity crisis the way they do. As black people we should respect them if they identify as black and teach them about our culture and should they identify as coloured we should respect that too. And also being black is not a small party that we need to invite people to, stop claiming people to be black and trying to invite them to the black party. Be black, Be proud and Respect others in who they are. I am a proud black African woman, and I wouldn't have any other way, respect others who are also proud to be who they are.
Can we tell black people to stop crying to live in white countries?
@Raynard Williams-Martinez, and what country are you from? America? Sorry,. Martinez, when Columbus first came to America, the people there did not speak Spanish and were named Martinez, the people on the boat spoke Spanish and were named Martinez
@Raynard Williams-Martinez, Hey, Martinez, if we whites got fed up and went to the moon, you people would soon be flowing us there, crying racism.
@Raynard Williams-Martinez,
Africa has been pushing out the whites since the 1960's, you know where you can put your resources! We are also sending aid to Africa, which I hope to stop!
@Raynard Williams-Martinez, did you hear about the 1960's when the blacks were pushing out the whites?
Why don't the SAPS do the same with the Nigerian Drug Dealers here in Durban Point Precinct
Very interesting discussion. Thank you.
This why my parents and great grand parents told me yo never interracial mix. You dont know nor understand the other side. It causes more problems then it solves.
Flash Gordon exactly
Exactly!!!💯💯
black people always want to be victims i don't want to mix with your kind either.
Exactly this is due to invasion of people lands. Whites had no business their. All they do is create Sub races. Majority of the time they choose the white side. I was also told to stay with your own kind by my eldars. I never had any interest in them anyway. I went to school and all I saw from them is fake smiles. But for some reason their woman stay trying to get with me. It got so bad in the USA with mixing that people were looking pale. I went straight to Nigeria and found a black wife from Edo States🤗. Round and Brown.
Well my Granny told me don't mix with white ppl in particular...............their bloodline/DNA weakens the the race of other ethnicities.
Why is it wrong for them to identify as coloured and not black?
Surely they grew up speaking Afrikaans, had their own traditions and customs etc.
Why can't they just be respected as coloured. And their poverty be addressed same as black poverty.
Their struggles deserve to he acknowledged.
In the struggle against apartheid there were many coloured fighting side by side with blacks. They never got acknowledged, yet we still try to tell coloured what they should be. Isn't that still oppressive? Let them be what they want.
You are wasting your breath debating this with Black Americans and those influenced by their idiotic, self-centered, ethnocentric racial rhetoric. They think how they are defined racially in the US should apply across the globe to anyone with "one drop" black blood. I encourage you to look up "one-drop rule" to understand the demented racial psychology of Black Americans.
We seen as nothing in this country our only option is to leave we hardworking but we never acknowledged for it.
Hey Rose , who made them ashamed of their skin tone or impoverished? Whites. So until you understand how you ransacked the country keep your comments to yourself. Your people have done ENOUGH!
@@astroprotector I'm black American and I approve this message
@@hatshepsutmaatre8510 Since when have we been ashamed to be who we are? We are African. We are Coloured. Thats it. Now tsek wena!
I'm not of mixed heritage but I'm still colored, cape Malay pure Malaysian ancestral roots
Bro stop living in a dream, if you go to America you will be called black
@@toyoufrombeniunbothored2213 what u don't get is that coloureds in south africa are now a race!!... let me explain u see 100 years ago during slavery whites slept with black ppl. Then Aparthied came, the government separated white ppl from black ppl. This meant that mixed ppl only would merry mixed counter parts. As time went on gene pool resulted in a new race being formed.
U see coloured ppl have a different accent, they speak english and afrikaans a white language, they cannot speak native tongue like us black south africans.
Also this video was so misleading, it's not like we the ones separating ourselves to coloureds, they are the ones who don't consider themselves black. Their neighborhoods are really bad, if u go there as a black person gudluck.
They can't be called black... no ways even they will never agree. That's the difference here. Of course they r kids who r born today by white and black ppl but they look so much different to coloured. Even from accent they don't have that accent like coloured ppl do.
@@toyoufrombeniunbothored2213 and they would be called oyinbo which literally means white person in Nigeria . pretty sure america is not the whole world
@@sboneloxaba566 yeah bro that's so true,am coloured but I consider myself as a black person,I speak xhosa .
And am african I don't know what coloured people actually wants...they stick with people,but they blame the blacks.
@@giftedvoices533 yol say you not white enough,but yet you speak Afrikaans,copy the white culture,vote for the DA,you not interested in african languages you speak Afrikaans as if it's your mothers tongue you for get your great great mother was african. So blacks are not the problem you isolate yourselves from them.
Great and important feature on this marginalised Coloured community, like many other communities in South Africa. This discussion about the Coloured identity creates more heat than light, Prof van der Ross wrote. In South Africa, race and ethnicity are often used interchangeably. However, there are subtle but important distinctions between the race and ethnicity. Racial identity is considered to be constant -Black, White, or Asian, while ethnic identity is more fluid and socially constructed. I am a Black South African who grew up and belongs to a Coloured community. For me, the racial identity, "Black South African,” is more inclusive of the different shades of black in our society. In this way we can to create a new reality that simultaneously respects the ethnic distinctiveness of marginalised Coloured community and creates a sense of belonging to the broader black South African community. The racist and apartheid Coloured ethnic identity may also requires a revisioning by the community that allows us to feel positive about ourselves and how we are perceived by others. This would be similar to how black Americans created a distinctive and positive African American identity. I am by no means proposing this as a silver bullet to the social ills in these Coloured communities but more as the foundation to strengthen self-worth and self-esteem to address the social challenges experienced by the classified Coloured community and its members. Aluta continua!
I grew up in the african township in the 70's.From the Junior School up to the Senior School there would be One or two students who were coloured but they were using african surnames because of the Group Areas Act.Later on when they finish school some will use their correct surnames.There was no issues and we use to get along.
During Struggle days there was this Black Consciousness Movement whose leaders were Africans, Coloureds and Indian falling under the Same Banner
I Have noticed that most of the older people who were interviewed Here admits that the term Coloured was enforced to them by Apartheid Government.
I love the fact that there's a conversation about this issue...
Even though we don't have a race issue here in Kenya we definitely have a tribe issue. It's always a battle between the majority and minority especially when it comes to securing jobs,sharing resources amongst counties, getting national IDs or passports etc. It is most evident during elections.
Heri yetu baba !
Liar...Kenyans have a big problem!
Most Kenyans consider the pale-faced Caucasians to be the most superior amongst all groups of people.
Stop your dirty lies and admit the Truth!
Same here in Somalia we are considered 1 out of 47 tribes in Kenya but in Somalia the situation is worse , we have clans fighting for seats in the parliament and trying to divide them selves like the Somaliland jubaland puntlamd etc .
@@selfemancipation7967 dude you can't compare the Caucasian population in Kenya to SA, we tend to focus more on tribes.
@@bernard8793 sorry, but death can't catch us we outrun it 😂
I'm coloured and proud, I dont want to be called black and I dont want to be called white. My parents and grandparents are coloured and my great grandparents on my dads side are coloured. I wasn't forced into this heritage I was born into it and I wouldn't identify as anything else
Answer me one thing, is anyone mixed from a black and a white couple necessarily colored? For example, would Halsey be considered a Colored in South Africa or would it be white?
@@BrunoBackes that's the definition like.
So which continent do u belong to if u don't mind me asking? 🤷 U don't belong in Africa nor Europe so which continent do u belong to?
@@MIA-ti7pg I belong to both. I am South African by birth and heritage, and I am Irish by citizenship and spending the majority of my life here. I am South African and Irish.
@@Illuminatiman44 just bcz u are south African by birth doesn't make u south African bcz u not black
We as black South Africans we fought for our freedom coulureds should do the same
@Chill Out I'm proud of being white, but I think that comment is kinda messed up.
@Chill Out Nothing good about South Africa, I just prefer people keep their sides clean
I’m Black and of Hispanic, Native American, and Nigerian heritage. We’re all beautiful
The consequences of so called "Bettering the race"
got to bring up that iq somehow
Or of rape
No. Direct result of the "Divide and Rule Policy" and breaking the community into smaller segments to easily control them. The forced removsls. Race classification was the start, then they tried the tribalism one and starting "homelands" like Transkei,Ciskei, Kwazulu and the other "homelands" when people needed passports to travel from homelands to SA, to further divide the nation. Was a clever policy but now all people's are suffering from the aftermath of the previous government's racial ,tribal, homeland and group areas act policies.
I am not a product of rape or heightening IQ asshat
@@ginomanshit2365 yt are dumber...
Thank you for such a great documentary
several of those people come across as exhibiting a sort of frustrated aimless aggression that made me uneasy just watching this video.
Some of these Coloureds are very dark.
Lol. You are too kind. You mean they look BLACK!!!
@esaesa07 you guys miss the point, for any mixed race that is quite dark black in the same household there is one that look almost white . we all know black americans do not have southern african features, black americans are of west african stock and they look like it.
@@descendanttravels7639 no fella, black is not a label that southern african have created for themselves. leave it to the americans who are commenting here when in reality they never care much for anything remotely related to africa much less southern african. they are only here for the lighter complexion
They are even blacker than their first black president Nelson Mandela
Lol exacly,As a xhosa i know a lot of pure blacks but are lighter in complexion more than most coloreds.You find a dark colored guy hate being called black but for example Mandela was light in comlexion none called him colored.
Get over the colour issue. My son was classified CAPE COLOURED and he's on top of his game. Lol...
This is a mindset of idiots. No one forced anyone to do or be anything. Be who you want to be. Simple. Khanya Zazini are the names I gave my son. They are Zulu names. He went on to study at Oxford University and speaks 7 languages fluently. He has travelled the world and has settled down in Swaziland after 5 years in South America. Life is full of excuses. Get on with your life and take full responsibility for your own future.
construction company? studied at oxford? awesomeness
It's not about supremacy, it's about social acceptance anf fair treatment. Nothing about ability.
@@MonDBlancBranford yeah, construction companies use engineers? StaticIan's, logistics, project management.
Were not talking bob the builder here
@Marcelle Roedolph ya, just cause he's son is coloured and he did good in life because he probably grew up in a rich house doesn't mean the government should ignore the coloureds. Majority of the coloureds don't do good in life cause they're neglected by the current government and grow up in ghettos. The fkn cape must sommer just split from the rest of SA so that minorities will not be ignored anymore
Wilcox Wilcox but you need money to do all that dah🙄
Man!🤦🏽♂️ my dad is coloured and my mom is black and grew up in predominantly black community meaning they just thought I'm a random light skin rather than coloured, I hate that term very, and I wish nobody in SA should be allowed to say it🤦🏽♂️
Of course you that is not coloured would have a problem with it
Speak for yourself, I'm proud to be coloured and not suffer from an identity crisis.
I’m confuse do you want them to call you coloured ? Or not
Wow ... I used to live near this neighbourhood, it’s rough but the people are nice
Just to add my two cents to this bit to create even more confusion : there's even 2 different "type" of coloured in SA : In the Cape Province you were/ are classified as Cape Coloured and the rest of SA just Coloured. I give up!
BLOOD IS RED!!!
skin is colour
But not all blood types are tbe same
@@ndagijefocus7607 black skin is skin deep
@@millyuganda05 white people hate every one who is not white but they love to see black people under them living in pain and use them as how they wish so everything is about skin if black people do not protect their life shame on them
Blood may be red but, it's not the same blood.
With all due respect to South Africa...The same struggle that South Africa was and is still experiencing, is the same struggle that "light skin" Black people experience even in present day America. My father for example (r.i.p) was a Creole very fair skin born in Louisiana, but still a Black man, and my mother (r.i.p) was a very dark skin Black woman. They clearly created me but I understand both of their struggles. Colorism is a very toxic result from past colonialism. All we can do at this point is acknowledge the ignorance from past generations and fix it for the future.
"people of colour" is more our tradition, the way in which we live, our values in what we relate to, our accent etc. In SA we definitely not black or white. This is our perception, its more a culture. We have Black, White, Malay,European and much more in us.
That's what I'm beginning to understand also. It's a culture. I'm a Cape coloured, born in SA but grew up in Australia so I don't know much about my history, culture or country (my parents never really bothered to teach me). It's so hard to explain sometimes to people when they ask me why I'm not dark, or why I don't look how they expect an "African" would - or even why if i'm "mixed" that either of my parents aren't just one race. It's so complicated, but I want to learn so much more about our people. Hopefully when the time comes for me to go back and visit again, I can learn more about things from my family and from places in SA.
So which continent do u belong to?
@@MIA-ti7pgasia
Sad that some cant seem to define themselves outside of race. Regardless of what your history & ancestry is, you can choose to create who you are. You don't have to accept these pre-package tv dinner identities that are foisted upon us.
No you cant ??? This a black nation. Not make believe lgbq. Stop while you ahead
That is not our culture nor law of the land. You out your jurisdiction. Nor do you have the status to even recommend that to us. Who gonna sit here and play with yall ??? Ill wait ✋️
But during apartheid you lived well far much better than blacks and you enjoyed that.You didn't carry passes
Tom Maroes Yes they did carry passes. It was the only way they could travel to the white neighbourhoods to work for the whites as their maids and nannies
Yes they did carry passes ...How did they live Well ???
@@tommaroes8828 Yes some of them did live in places like that because fate ,family ties ext...coloured people were never immune to poverty those days although some people want to believe that they were....and you don't have to live in Soweto or alexander township to know what suffering is all about ..when we could see it in our own areas....
My family also suffered under apartheid ,we lost land ,my family members got split up ,coz one looked too white, one too Indian one too dark...one quarter of my family left the country...got ill treated ...I feel insulted to say that we lived well ...!
Tom Maroes
Yes they had to carry passes and were confined by law where they could live. You know this is a matter of record? Are you fucking stupid?
To be honest, I don't care what race/culture people regard themselves as, we're all people. Unfortunately I've experienced racism from Coloured people. Some of them(not all) still have some sort of hatred towards black/white people, but then again racism is found in all racial groups and continues to be one of our biggest challenges in SA and around the world. In my understanding(I stand to be corrected), being Coloured is more of a culture to them, and not to be mistaken as just mixed-race. If you're mixed race it doesn't mean you're going to be referred to as Coloured in South Africa. It is not to be confused with the ethnic descriptor historically used in the US during the jim crow era. Or what we refer to as mixed-race everywhere else in the world. Apartheid was the worst thing to have ever happened to SA, and now we will always see color before we see a human-being.
I would have to disagree on the issue of unemployment and coloured people being marginalized by the government. I believe all racial groups are facing similar challenges. Half of the countries population is living under the poverty line. over 50% of the youth is unemployed. What is actually happening in SA has nothing to do with racial discrimination towards a single racial group, but incompetency by our current government and having "white only political parties" and "black only political parties" as leading opposition, leaving us with no option but to continue voting for the same incompetent government, or not voting at all in most cases.
How many Arab country has the USA Bomb about 5 country .
If she went to Cape Town... the responses would’ve been completely different.
Too true. She should interview some Cape Town coloureds from the Flats
Well I dont really know but I have heard that a lot of mixed South Africans had racist views towards Blacks, and Blacks also rejected them as well. A lot of mixed race folks also sided with the Whites to keep their privleges. I suggest yall read Zoe Wicomb's books
Now u are a women i could merry... u telling the truth ✌
I just returned from South Africa two weeks ago. I talked to several "Coloureds" about this very topic. I then went on to show them pictures of my fair skinned grandparents and relatives. They were flabbergasted by the stark contrast in hue from such close relatives. Most went on to say that they could never marry or date outside of " Coloured ". I understood somewhat, being from New Orleans and experiencing discrimination from Creoles.
Bruh they black... Most their girls Date black guys, most black guys date Coloured girls..
James Cain if you were born in China you are Chinese, Britain you British, Brazil you Brazilian, there is no country called Coloured, if you were born in South Africa you are a South African no matter your colour off your skin. You were labelled as a coloured because of divide and rule policy to keep control over the inhabitants of South Africa 🇿🇦 Become proud and denounce being a Kaalaard.You are a Human Race not a IDENTIFICATION should only read South African. You will feel second class citizen for the rest off your life.
True. New Orleans has a lot of racist Creoles (half-breeds). When I was growing up. The Morials (Ernest, Marc) and Sidney Barthelemy were like that. They were mixed with Black, yet they did not marry Blacks that were actually Black and looked Black. Also, every mayor of color was of mixed race. This is why I have no sympathy for mixed race people. What's even worse than this is that even the true Black people were colorist against each other (Blacks hating on each other based on skin tone color). Sadly, this is nothing new. This has been going on forever and the Black, Biracial, and Mixed-Raced people will continue to discriminate against each other based on skin color. Smh
@@rhondae8222 So you have no sympathy for ppl who didn’t choose to be mixed you sound silly.
@@hubreydavid7864 no if you are born of south african indigenous heritage (bantu or khoisan)
1:27 the sound of prayer be called for, is the most beautiful thing.
I pray that they find happiness 😊♥️
hurts my ears
steve boy is there anything you can do about it ? 😂😂 inshallah more Muslims everywhere in Africa 🏴🏴
james taylor
Oh Lord, that’s not normal. You should see a doctor for that sweety. Hope you feel better soon 💕
salma ahmed
“Christianity and Islam - both are expected to have more than twice as many adherents in 2050 as in 2010.”
- Pew research forum (2015)
The future of world religions: sub-Saharan Africa.
“But the Muslim population is expected to grow at a faster rate than the Christian population (170% vs. 115%), rising from 248 million to 670 million. “
-- Pew research forum (2015)
The future of world religions: sub-Saharan Africa.
Updated article from pew research (2017) states: “sub-Saharan Africa will surpass the Middle East-North Africa as the region with the second-largest Muslim population in the next 20 years.”
It’s also states: “Currently, around three-in-four people who identify with no religion, including atheists and agnostics, live in Asia and the Pacific. But that share is expected to decline to 66% by 2060 due to low fertility and an aging population.”
Sorry but the stats are really not helping you.
steve boy
Oh no! That’s very sad. You should see a doctor for that, it’s not normal. 💕
I'm black and white and I approve this message
@Sao Ham She’s not half blacked half lemon
This was so interesting/ educational.
See guys we are not racist in Kenya! 😂
But tribalist which is worse, we need to learn from these guys
id say were not racist but tribalism separates tribes
well done Kenya 🇰🇪
Th reporter is just misleading... she is so wrong on many things. First of all, Coloureds became a race literally!!... they were born by black and white ppl in 100 years ago. During Apartheid they were separated from whites and blacks thus a new race was formed as a result. They have thier own accent and their neighborhoods r the worsr!!. They have no one to blame but them.
Even during Aparthied coloured ppl never stood with black ppl, now they want to claim they r victims. Spear me i am a south african we all know how coloured ppl r even against black ppl. They don't like us most, they can't speak any native language what so ever.
@@sboneloxaba566 just because coloured people didn't stand with black people back then doesn't mean that they hated black people and you are just generalizing because a great majority of coloured stood with black people against apartheid but coloureds' involvement is excluded from history books so of course you would say that coloureds didn't stand with the black people.
We love our coloured people.
Who's we?😅
Who’s we, you’ve never being to SA wena, have you seen how they treat black people,those people are only black when it politically suits them come election season.
@@ballardghost4805 maybe because they don’t feel represented
@@roccoy5982 Heban,”Maybe”, they are black although they don’t want to accept it.
You alone not "we"
The marginalisation comes As most of them (Not All),want to Identifed as Whites .
If they have solid European ancestors then they have the right to identify as whites, if Elizabeth Warren can identify as Native American with 0.0012% genes then they certainly can do it with 20 or 50% of Europe's genes.
@Yisa Maliyamungu their country is the Cape from the Fish River in the east to the Orange river in the north (also the southern half of Namibia, but that's a separate country). The Coloureds and whites should move there and secede. Leave South Africa to those who think Mugabe was a great president and Venezuela looks like a wonderful place to live. Create the rainbow nation that whites voted for in 1994 and see it thrive.
@@gostavoadolfos2023 You are wasting your breath debating this with Black Americans and those influenced by their idiotic, self-centered, ethnocentric racial rhetoric. They think how they are defined racially in the US should apply across the globe to anyone with "one drop" black blood. I encourage you to look up "one-drop rule" to understand the demented racial psychology of Black Americans.
Im coloured and im pround to be one😁
your still black dontgo with the stupid people of apartide
@@shortfunnyvideos566 coloureds are not black.
Sibongakonke Zulu yes they are there 60-70% black remember there are dominant
Sibongakonke Zulu genes
@@SD_M9 *Not all coloreds are black
I am Coloured and Sotho coming from Mokhotlong Lesotho 🇱🇸 sad this going on I was never judged on my skin color in Lesotho 🇱🇸 sad for South Africa to have all this hatred for Africa 🌍
What I have noticed over the years is that the really dark coloureds who are Africans but for the language, are the ones who are more vocal in protests.
His grandfather was Scottish? Please my mother is lighter than him, she’s from Ghana and I’m 100% African according to 23andme.
@Abdul Yousif no
you do kniw that not everyone has the same amount of melanin just because they have african blood in them right?
@Ashton Almond can you read?
So what? It's ot about skin tone but heritage, his parent wasn't assimilated into the Zulu or Scottish (white) community ,married a non Zulu and raised him amongst this coloured community so he can't claim being Zulu or white just like that. It's not about claiming black, black is just an approximate physical description, not an identity (Zulu, Scottish or Ghanaian are identities)
Someone should look even further than this. We as coloureds need more information about our heritage and this identity crisis needs to be acknowledged. I had to learn about my history/heritage as a coloured after school because it's not actually that looked into. Sadly we are not even acknowledged as African by our own government. We are african because we are, historically speaking direct descendants of the first people to be found in South Africa; the khoi khoi the san and the bushmen clan and so are some black people. So...
king cay True I do agree that the government is neglecting you guys and not helping the situation .Yes some Coloureds have a khoi ancestory but not all some have a Bantu ancestory too but then also Bantu people are mixed with khoi to so we are all just one family .And did you noticed that there's light and dark coloureds just like black people to in South Africa .It would be insane to find out that just like African Americans you guys have from 70% to 100% African blood flowing on you .Also remember that Africans have DNA from All over Africa mixed because our people travelled and mixed there is a reason why you are in this continent and why you have that complexion and curls god bless you brother
Can't you idiots do a DNA test
How many times should we tell u that u are lost u don't have culture u are not original u are lyk black Americans
William Khumalo , I beg your fucking pardon. Black Americans have a culture. It maybe presented as just American but it's Black American! I don't appreciate the insult. I could throw many your way, but I won't! You gotta nerve!FOH!!
@@marjj_yesiamb703
True!...they want to be accepted so bad by the whites, but the whites don't want them:( blacks have no issues with them, if anything they should respect the black side of their family who raised them!
It was hard to understand when I was in SA, they had to break it down to me. I’m accustomed to being “Colored” or “Black”’ in America, it’s completely different in SA.
What's the song at the beginning?
The Coloured community in Namibia (Basters and those that say there's a difference between Coloureds and Basters) is a bit toned down compared to South Africa... however they really need to be addressed as a people and they need to be understood. Are they black are they white?? THAT DOESN'T MATTER. Do we understand the struggles they go through? Some don't have a sense of belonging, but some are proud Namibians. Do we understand they are a people with their own culture? They are unique. I could write a book, I grew up with them there's so much to address. Like why they get offended when called black? Like why some believe they're black? LASTLY I'LL SAY THIS: SOMEONE WHO IS MIXED RACE IS NOT A COLOURED. You can't be mixed like TREVOR NOAH and claim to be Coloured, or rather the Coloured we are talking about. THEY ARE AN ETHNIC GROUP ON THEIR OWN.
they are considered black here in the U.S...we are all one! I have countless amounts of ppl in my family with the same complexion as the ppl in this video.
@@carljackson2710 I hear you, but read on their history first. I think then you'll understand why there's a difference between what Americans call coloured and what we call coloured.
@@booty3545 I get it....the big difference is they allowed themselves to be placed on the outside during the apartheid. I get they chose to learn the tongue of the oppressor rather than the natives during that time. Here in the U.S we fought the fight together during the civil right era and all stood on the same side...We live the same culture and grew as one. I wish these ppl had a chance to live here for a min and then return to Africa. Maybe that would change their view of the world and allow them to see they have more in common with their native heritage than anything else. We are all in this case victims of a racist practice that yielded some terrible results and we still overcame. We still have work to do and it can only be done together!
@@carljackson2710 let's agree that it's complicate 😂😂😂 isn't it? How I wish we lived as one
Carl Jackson you are right. I am South African and these people don’t want to be associated with black people at all.
Then who's black enough in South Africa? Most people in South Africa are mixed.
I call Bullshit.
Okuhle Osh I second that!
What a bullshit !!!!!!!! 🙄 Black People in South Africa are not mixed !! "like white people in South Africa are not mixed, only mixed are mixed. What a pure bullshit.
the jews of course
most people are generally mixed if it’s obvious or not
As a coloured person in South Africa, this is all true. Post apartheid reforms have seen only black people prosper and us completely left in the dark both economically and socially. We work hard and are ignored because of the so called "confusion of our race". Government overlook us, in favour of black people
Trust me their is no confusion as to what you are
@@catherinesterling1685 A person of European, and African descent?
@@limonesycafe8898 people getting taken advantage of
@@jariusisaac8616 what?
@@limonesycafe8898 I just thought when he said their is no confusion that is was done on purpose to take advantage of the people
I find this to be quite interesting. Being a mixed kid myself, I can say that anyone with mixed African ancestry here in the USA is typically identified as black. Almost regardless of how dark or light your skin tends to be. Here in the USA, if you have a noticeable African phenotype, you are classified as black. Never knew that being mixed was an issue in Africa
No it is issues in South Africa that they are using race not other Africa countries.
In west Africa we use ethnic
There are a lot of us that don't have noticeable African phenotype. The more you go west in South Africa, you'll note that coloureds look more South Asian/South-East Asian than African but we do retain a little bit of it
@Umbuko DaJuko But that's what Latinos are. A mix between black and white, and depending where you are in Latin America, an add mixture of indigenous Americans. The only difference between them and other mixed populations is language.
@Umbuko DaJuko Honest question. In your opinion, what constitutes a person as being black. I'm aware that in some western countries, the identity of mixed people's have been a source controversy. Especially in the USA. Is it 55%,60%, 70%, 80%, 90% sub-saharan African ancestry? If a person in 50% black, but has almost no obvious signs of being mixed, (dark skin, afro textured hair, Bantu facial features etc.) are they not considered black?
Is it primarily determined by blood, appearance or culture?
@Umbuko DaJuko George Lopez is actually slightly more European than anything else. He did a DNA test, and he's mostly of European and Native American descent (despite looking almost pure Native), with a small amount of East Asian and sub-Saharan African ancestry.
The color issue has always run rampant in all communities of color and when I see this it’s heart breaking. Wypipo are out here living their lives like the past was in the past and my colorful black brothers and sisters are still analyzing each other’s skin complexion! We need to move past that as an international black community, there are so much more things we need to get a hold of.
The coloured community wants nothing to do with blacks, to such an extent that they actually embraced how the coloured community was classified by the apartheid government. Since whites were the minority, they decided to elevate Indians and Coloureds in order to get some form of support. Till this day you still find coloureds that use the slur work that was used by the whites against black South Africans. They were told they were better than blacks and it gave them a few privilages, I would understand that they would have accepted such for survival but the fact that they still hold the same views imposed on them by the Apartheid government is baffling.
That's what I HATE about them. They want the benefits of being black but don't want to be black. Black people are accepting, if they collectively shun you, they usually have a good reason to do so.
Very sad to see this matter 😢 also heartbreaking
It's always those outside our community that have something to say about us smfh even though they know nothing about us! This comment section is evidence to this. Sad sad that my people have been through over the last 400 years and its still going on..
Maybe if you actually picked a side and stuck to it, you wouldn't have such a problem. The issue with coloured is that they can't pick a side.
My best friend is legit lighter than these guys she has blonde hair even her eyebrow hair ,light brown eyes when she's shy her skin goes red she even has freckles .She is a black Zulu South African then you call yourself colored guys tell Mr Ramaphosa to bring Ancestry DNA to South Africa .
Stop talking shit. You need to accept whites as black if you keep saying these things. Biracial is it’s own fuking thing
The majority of blacks don’t look like mixed people. Move on. I wanna see her dna results unless she’s albino
@@dany85680 🤣🤣🤣🤣 go to TH-cam go check out Mamadee a Xhosa light skinned women in the us they said she was not black results are 100% African her African are divided between Southern Africa and Khoisan check her out she is my best friends complexion if I could send pictures on TH-cam I would send you a picture of my friend and I
@Are You Ready she did both an Ancestry & 23 & Me DNA
@Are You Ready are you crazy 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 ,she's a South African from the Eastern cape she did her whole history showed her mom and dad and sisters & brothers from the Eastern Cape 🤣🤣🤣 Maybe you watching the wrong Mamadee or something just comment on her videos she responds ask her about her history 🤣🤣🤣
I'm kenyan and that's true as hell💯what's coloured?? 😂😂Ohh Lord.... In Kenya we don't really care about skin colour.... I mean 100% we don't really mind...
But you mind tribalism! Each country has it's own problem 🙄
that was the identity assigned to them by the apartheid government, was beneficial back then because they were made to believe they are better than Blacks
@@bongashushashusha3016 Exactly!
As Kenyans call (colorards or mixed race or biracial), point five or half cast.. I have heard it a lot growing up, so trust me we see a difference although we dont make a big deal out if it
Madagascar too 😂
Proud to be mixed I love my colored people 👏🏼♥️
Who cares we all Africans silly 😋
@@kevingif2703 but we not all the same silly😏
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Which continent do y'all belong to?
@@TheCoIdestWater And?
I am a Cape Coloured South African, from Cape Town. My mother was White (Afrikaner & British) & my father was Coloured (Zulu, Indian & Portuguese). My parents' relationship was illegal during Apartheid & they needed to keep it secret. I was very light skinned as a child so I passed for White. My complexion has changed as I got older. I embrace the term Coloured & I own it. It's really sad to see so many people in my birth country still stigmatised. We are all South Africans no matter what our ethnicity 🇿🇦
Coloured people in South Africa have always chosen the "white" part and denied the "black" part of themselves. You see this almost everywhere in southern Africa. "I'm mixed, atleast I'm not full on black, our hair is nice. Etc" ... heard this actually coming out of an ex friend's mouth. Even with romantic relationships, they either date amongst themselves or a white person and rarely associate with black people. Rather speak Afrikaans when ALL races are present so the white people and themselves can understand KNOWING blacks can't (being able to speak english themselves but choosing not to). Point being: from my point of view, they've always isolated themselves from black people. So it's so shocking now, what this "identity crisis" is about. They've always picked a side.
so sad
True at least you are a real one I like coloreds like you.
FACTS
Well mixed people in America choose the black side. So what's the problem??
@@FernandoGonzalez-tu8vn we're not talking about AMERICA here 😩😩😩
Coloured people's image is already tainted so no one would want to employ them unless they change dramatically and it's unfortunate that even the innocent ones remain a statistic.
Why does no one want to employ them?
@@humptiedumptie2066 Recreational use of drugs and violence
@@masi5475 Don't blacks do the same thing?
@Amalgamaite Who cares? It's survival of the fittest. Whites didn't lift apartheid because they wanted to out of charity, they were forced.
@@humptiedumptie2066 yes they do but if you look at the number of them who do drugs out of the total population it's low compared to coloreds. So the chances of you finding a black who participates in this is lower compared to coloreds
Very Sad indeed.
I'm a black south African and I consider coloureds black
We aren’t black and don’t project
@@gabrielladesilver3793 Have you done a DNA test?
Most of these people would be considered black if they are in Europe or America! The black race comes in every color, shape and size.
+kings shakka007 Idiot STFU
Its not aboyt color but ancestry i know a mixed race person when I see them even if they are dark skinned
@@marjj_yesiamb703 Have you seen that South African woman called Mama Dee. She looks like a coloured but she did a dna test and was hundred percent African.
Stop including enemies into your group
@Kay. M True and most Bantu people like Zulu,Xosa & Tswana are mixed with the khoisan people e.g Mama Dee who revealed her results on TH-cam video she is Xhosa .
Reminds me of pre-civil rights United States. South Africa is awfully backwards.
I've been to Johannesburg twice this year, and heading back to Jo- burg in October, 2019.
So sorry about the suffering your people have endured. I would like to know if anyone knows of being related to Harold Pascoe, who became mine manager in Kuruman. He paid for the education of two boys born in the 1930s - either his sons or the sons of his right-hand man Piet. One of the sons completed university and went to America, it is thought, but we don't know their names or whereabouts. Thanks
Thank you BBC for this informative clip!
Not really they missed so many points.
. First coloured ppl prefer white ppl the majority of them
. This isn't even an issue at all, i have coloured friends they call themselves coloured broo like she said she is proud of being coloured
. Coloured ppl r a race in SA, they can't be black becoz they cannot speak black languages
. Coloureds only speak Afrikaans (a white language) and English
. Coloureds r not a result of mixed parents no but a mixed ancestory between a black person and a white person over 100 years ago
. When aparthied began they separated black and white, thus mixed ppl had sex with mixed ppl
. As time went on a new race was formed, one with a different accent, they even look so different, their hair is curly
Also BBC is a joke really, they went to Joburg they didn't go home of coloureds Cape Town... that's where it all started. U see there they r so proud of being coloured that they even paint it on the walls!!
Don't be mislead dude plz
Similar issues here in US. We all black BUT mixed people get preferential treatment especially in entertainment, Hollywood , and hip hop culture . “Yellow is mellow “. And this generation is obsessed with “team light skin vs team dark skin “. They use it as a way to make themselves feel superior or more attractive . It’s sickening . And the black men here elevate whites women but I feel like that slowly starting to change. There are a lot of interracial couple here and now starting to see more black women and white men as well.
For a lot of black women you can’t just be a beautiful you gotta be pretty for a black girl . even from white men I hear that . it and it’s degrading forreal and shocking and a underlying racist comment .
For the mixed people I do feel bad because they for sure have identity issues because they are “not white enough and also not black enough”. They usually choose one side . It’s sad. My mixed cousins always tell me they feel this way because their white side of the family treats them different than their white cousins. This may never end
I hear you
@@thabonyewe138 in a system of white supremacy it not ending.
I read you message. I think it’s powerful. I love being African/black. You can imagine how I love black people. I just get excited when I see a beautiful black girl. I love dark skinned people. I guess I grew up in Africa so the people I was exposed to were always back people. The white did have a chance to brainwash me. But I do understand in a country like America where it is predominantly white and run predominantly by white people, I can see how easy it is to brainwash people. I don’t see the excite of being with a white partner. White people bore me. And that’s not coming from a racial place. I just think of them as common people.
@@jlionmenelik77 absolutely 💯. That’s exactly what it is. A white system that oppresses other factions so that they can benefit. How is it that we are in Africa and yet the ruling language in English. Majority of the people in South Africa speak African language and yet English is the commanding language. So we are systematically still oppressed. We need to drop this system so we can go back to our African ways. We don’t care for Western systems. Ndingumxhosa. Ndiphuma esthathwini.chisana.Ndebe.Khopoyi. We know our African languages
light skin people in America need our own colured community
What's the background music called
I'm black and proud,
Black is beautiful
Iam definitely against interracial marriage it's very disruptive all it brings is mental disease
@Chill Out there nothing wrong with being black nothing wrong with being white it just one group seem to think they do no wrong
Chill Out you can be proud to be white as long as you don’t use to be nasty.
Chill Out absolutely 👍🏾 @ the end of the day whoever you feel you are superior , some day you will be old and you will have to go 6ft under like any human on this planet
KKK Killer I love your TH-cam name 😂🙌🏽