As a Zulu boy I totally understand. In Kzn there are Zulu chiefs who control massive pieces of land and build communities based on their cultural heritage and no one ever complains. Orania should be left alone to strive on their terms which aren't affecting any outsider. ✌️💪
The Ngonyama Trust and ALL tribal land holders should be ashamed of themselves. Give people title deeds so they can invest in their communities. They won’t because tribal leadership wants to control them.
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
@@rovhalt6650 thats fslse because that model was never for the entirety of the whole country ,but only for thoes who happened to be born white through the accident of birth, otherwise your living in the most densely populated ,ugly housing ,poverty striken conditions ,poor access to resources ,health care ,clean water, poor sewage. after the so caled end of Apatehid the same inequities are as rampant and visible as ever , when it comes to asthetically pleasing ,housing ,attractive streets,gardens, adjcent parks, where are thoes conditions for the whole country .the truth is nothing has changed fundamentally on the ground for the whole country..
I cannot agree with you more, I am a coloured who have to dodge bullets everyday In Cape town, so this type of lifestyle these people live, I find very inspiring, I wish I can live a peaceful life like that, not having to live in fear every day.
I am a so called Coloured in South Africa and say this...Orania asks nothing from anyone....does everything themselves....no crime and lots of our politicians have been there and are impressed so stop with this nonsense and leave them be!!!
No crime? You have not been watching and\ listening. Mr CEO just said thats not true. Saying "leave them be" while they defend Hendrik who oppressed and beat your parents' a55 like kids and murdered many innocents? I bet Hendrik didn't say "leave them be". You one hell of a person, no wonder you coloureds get fooled so easily
I'm an Indian guy but I really admire what they doing, just look at South Africa as a whole.The government just messed up everything, even with allowing foreigners in S.A to do as they please.The people should be proud of Orania
Nobody wants to do this stuff in their Own country. Europeans love to settle in other people's country then call it their own. It must be in they're blood. Whatever country your ancestors came from is your country. Go there and settle down.
As a American I like your generosity and kindness. The last election African Americans massively voted for someone who is often called a racist, President Trump.
The most important thing is they don’t have ‘load shedding’!…they can also get a driving license fast and not the 6 months it usually takes elsewhere. Do you think they get away with bribing police?
I'm a non white South African and I applaud the Afrikaans community for standing together and building a life for themselves without asking government for anything
This story runs and runs. European settlers arrived in S.A. 600 years ago, apartheid was practically in force for 30 years and yet it continues to be the only narrative. The Afrikaners are not against anything, they are only for their own future. Nothing stopping any community doing the same for their culture.
The official term is 42 years (1948-1990). Also laws like Apartheid DO NOT just spring into existence. Laws like these follow cultural norm, and the cultural norms of exclusion of Blacks precedes Apattheid by a lot.
@@riichobamin7612 precedes; so pre- 1948, 70 years ago. And now South Africa has uncontrolled crime, including rape, murder, armed robberies, a falling economy, crumbling infrastructure which includes power cuts, undrinkable water, pollution in rivers and dams. So rather focussing on a few people living in the middle of nowhere and problems of the past, perhaps a report on today; and how the rest of South Africa got so bad might be useful?
@@neuselableyou ever consider how apartheid and the uk mining natural resources for hundreds of years could make them a little unhappy and unstable? if you wanna make the argument they could stop focusing so heavily on the past that would be fine except even as an afrikaner it’s a common fact that we’re seen as racist ignorant assholes and live up to it fully. don’t ignore history
"No-one is coming to save you" and "create your future" are really messages that all South Africans should take to heart. To many people are waiting for the government to save them, or to simply give them a future, and it's just never going to happen.
@@Dr_Smooches_Goodbaby no need. Loving life in South Africa thanks. This is a beautiful country with beautiful people in it and so much potential. If you want to live with spite and hate in your heart then that's on you, but the message was you can have whatever life you want in South Africa, just its up to you to go and get it. Government is not going to give you anything. Good luck.
Now try saying K K K is controversial because they unsuccessful. Some folk lost their ability to consume and think things through. Instead, give me a keyboard let me type.
@petero7937 not disputing its "successful", whatever that means but to say its controversial because of that, I am not sure. I am for all inclusive. Not for cut a piece of the land and keep to self.
As a black South African I’m fully behind the idea of cultural preservation & maintaining community values as long as those values aren’t rooted in hatred & racism.
Problem is, who defines racism? Some would argue the very existence of Orania is racist. Separation of races is the only way to go. Tens of thousands of Africans have landed in Ireland in the last few years and they turned the non-racist Irish into racists by their degenerate behaviour of violence and robberies. The cultures are simply incompatible and I see the races going to war against each other in Ireland as a result, as the government and Police are on the side of the criminal element of immigrants which is a far higher % than the native population. Is what I said racist or hatred in your view? If you say yes, then that's why we need to be kept separate.
The "whites-only" assertion and title are misleading. It's an Afrikaners-only town. British decendent whites can't live there either. Not French whites, not German whites, none of that. The point is to preserve their culture, not racial segregation.
@@Zdamaneta Eropeans don’t like ech other. Hence the millennium of cnstant fighting. Biggest wars in history trace mostly to Erope, ie, WW1, WW2, Cold War. Fast forward to today: Russia against Ukraine/NATO. Which furthers my point……
Using the Ora in the town as a 'coupon' currency is absolutely genius, including the fact that the rand are held to earn interest in the bank and profits used toward the community itself while also making it pointless to hold a robbery at the outlets. It's a great idea I love it.
This may come as a shock...but none of that is new, and used to be used extensively in the territories of the U.S. prior to 1920. Secondarily, while a fine idea for smaller colonies or territories of companies, it cannot expand at an industrial scale at any speed using that system, without a better standardisation and backing by outside trade company territories. Internally they will be quite stable, with the exception of any imports or exports at a larger scale. Not even Fordlandia was fully self-sufficient in any way, any more than any amish or mennonite colony ever was or is. And to reach true corporate autonomy & sovereignty...you have to become at least somewhat bulletproof.
@@TheCaptainSlappy So the reason US abandoned decentralized currency, does not apply there, therefore it is a smart workaround for the situation. You basically just explained his point back to him in a very obnoxious way.
@@Snartfoodler So...me explaining exactly the opposite of you talking out your bumhole knowing nothing of how currency has ever worked much less works, is ironic.
Circulating currency. A coupon system is genius and follows the foundation of currency: trust. Not with coupons but many Jewish communities did similar things. Circulating currency among a small community raises its value inherently. The African Americans did something similar too... However, there was intervention.
Makes me think of the mass immigration into Australia, they say we have a labour shortage, well if after 20+ years of mass immigration we still have a labour shortage I call BS. You can always do your own work.
Australia is a similar but different topic. The aborigines have incentives and funding anywhere in the country. Yet they don’t work or study. Most of them sit around and drink beer. Very sad. Some immigrants are causing crime and major cities like Melbourne are becoming over populated
@@jrock2019 Right, you know how many Europeans town have been obliterated only to be rebuilt. Kiev was completely devastated by the Mongols, it's still there
They believe the medias lies over their own eyes. It’s sad how people allow themselves to be fooled by people they don’t even know. And they’re proud of it.
"Frozen in time", I guess Whites cannot have a community let alone a nation of our own anymore without being socially pressured into believing that it makes us evil.
I know right? Like when I heard him say “ frozen in time” all I saw is a modern town that had everything modern, definitely because of the rule that town had.
VERY nice to see many positive comments! Nothing wrong with keeping cultures alive, whether it's black, asian, indigenous, white. Everybody has history.
@@azhariarif Indeed it was absolutely dangerous since its only deepens the racial/ethnic segragations that already plagued South Africa, legscies from the Apartheid era.
From Kenya, I don't think there's a problem having a boers only place or any other ethnicity. The real question is why would you want to force people who want to live in seclusion to live among you if you don't have any sinister intentions.
Exactly in my opinion if they’re not harming anyone and they literally seem like they’re the middle of nowhere off the grid why force them to become a part of wider South Africa when they clearly seem content keeping to themselves
@@BourneIdentity45 I couldn't agree more and I think that should be the standard for freedom. So long as no human rights are violated and consent is agreed upon by the community. After all there are protected groups all over the world and in proper countries they live just fine. Like the Armish and Momorns in the US. Or the uncontacted island tribes
@@sageforce9306 the part that I find interesting is that if you take race and their Afrikaaner ethnicity out of it, how is it that they’re able to create a brand new community off grid like this essentially start over and look like they’re thriving, while most nations with their cities and governments are corrupt and have issues with crime safety homelessness, like in my opinion I’d rather live in a close community like this one than a huge city, and tbh I think as humans we all look for that deep down somewhere, a community of people who share have a common set of ideals and a goal for a future. As someone who has heard the stories of white farmers and other whites in South Africa being killed it makes me understand why a community like this would be made in the first place but from what I’ve seen in the video especially with the girl he was talking to she didn’t seem to think that living there was the be all end all it was more that it was her home and she was raised there but still wanted to see the world for me that told me enough about them not being problematic
@@BourneIdentity45 true. I have to confess that for some rooted reason multiculturalism does not really work apart from a few exceptions. People who have conflicting ideas and world views should for the most part live apart to avoid conflict. African communities love to blame and while some blames bare weight I feel it boils down to lack of accountability on our part as a whole. That's why I like some one like Traore because he has borne responsibility for his people and done what he see's fit to protect them and advance them not thinking about what others think. That's the only way only results will speak of his actions
@@sageforce9306 completely agree I honestly think that multiculturalism was manufactured to bring conflict between communities you can see this with what’s been going on in the UK and other parts of Europe sure these countries aren’t necessarily Christian nor was Christianity created in them but they hold a lot of values that align with Christianity and then in the last few decades there’s been a lot of clashes between Islam and western values and that’s not to say that someone who is Islamic can’t live in the west but most of the time even moderate Muslims tend to have very conservative views even if they don’t think they should be governed by the law. A prime example of this is why Pakistan and India were split into two countries simply because the even though they’re essentially the same people they couldn’t co exist, you can see the same with the balkans with Bosnia Serbia Croatia Kosovo Albania all very similar cultures holding similar values but eventually had to split through wars
Why is everyone obsessed with Orania, it is private property, with people doing their own thing, so leave them alone, if you are not Afrikaans and have no interest in their culture, let them be, they are not doing anyone any harm.
For real they don't do anything wrong. There are plenty of villages that don't let any outsider settle there for various reasons. No one outside of my family can settle in the village of my father in Turkey. You can buy property there but believe me you will never be able to live there no matter which ethnicity you have or the language you speak.
@@kingjams tried what exactly? Building a community? Blacks don’t try this because they don’t have unity… it’s perfectly legal and every single race does the exact same thing all over the world except for black people, why… because we have no unity
@@kingjams you can do it is someone holding you back. Get a community of blacks together BUY the land and go ahead who's gonna stop you if you own the land?
@@seanpetaia But first you have to exploit people so that you have the money to buy such a large piece of land. That's all the money that was generated through colonialism.
@@seanpetaia No one wants to be like these selfish people and if anyone is looking for peace. Peace is found within... You don't run from people(black) to find peace.
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I am black but i see nothing wrong with people of same culture wanting to have a place of their own to preserve their cultural identity. Leave them alone!!!they look happy
This video is more of a propaganda video than a none-bias truth - SMWX "Orania’s dark history: the story of South Africa’s whites-only town" video on TH-cam is none-bias and speaks the truth about the architects of Oriana are the same architects of Apartheid. SMWX video is Worth watching
If Zulu people would revamp Kwa Maye-Maye and have a similar approach as Orania they'd be labeled as tribalists so i really don't care about what South Africans think about this town,us black people we can't even mobilize our own communities
The biggest irony is that each different ethnicity in Europe has their own country, whereas Africa, as a colonised continent, was split by colonial interests both combining and splitting up ethnic groups. Although it does seem a bit extreme at this point to realise that same future in a country like SA that has so many ethnic groups, it does make you wonder about how much more complicated governance becomes when the political leaders aren't representing the same ethnicity or culture as the whole population when all countries in Europe essentially have that convenience. So in that logic yes, if Afrikaners can do so with Orania, any ethnic group should have the right to self-determination and self governance
The Ngonyama Trust and ALL tribal land holders should be ashamed of themselves. Give people title deeds so they can invest in their communities. They won’t because tribal leadership wants to control them.
@@Gj-8422 Wena uyile type eno mona nasebantwini abamnyama LOL. Abanye abantu do with the lil they have unlike oMalema benu that also send their kids to white schools, stay in those areas too.
@@Gj-8422 You nailed it. They can't go back to Holland because apparently, Holland wants NOTHING to do with them. Even Holland thinks they're in the wrong for being in Africa.
So it's not WHITES only, it's AFRIKAANER only. I'm White, but I wouldn't be able to live there either. This is pretty much the same concept as each black tribe having their own territory/villages, and no one has any issue with THAT, but when Afrikaaners do literally the same thing, it's suddenly seen as a problem.
Whenever white people are doing their own thing by themselves and doing well, they are always attacked for doing it when any other color of people are doing the same thing they are applauded. The world is against white people.
I imagine two neighbours having a boundary dispute over a fence line (I imagine these are the types of criminal problems they will be having in a growing town) is the type of crimes taking place, maybe bar fights etc, not raping Young women.
Thank you for this Josh, I have always wanted to know more about this town. This insight is so different from what we have been fed by mainstream media. I really am envious of this town, the values and the peace. Reminds me of when I grew up in a military base in the 90s. We slept with unlocked doors right until I was in high school.
@@l-pv5793 its not? we only built it from the ground up. The electricity running water even down to the fact you can read. All came here because of US. We made it better and built it from nothing. Under us you had jobs stability security and running water all day. You cant even argue against it because the literal state of south africa is a testament to the TRUTH. Notice how orania is fine? its not an issue of blaming us or your people its an issue of management and no offense you cant manage yourselves where as we succeed anywhere
I'm coloured, and honestly i am a little jealous of how peaceful the town is. Also, how the community stand united and being this self sufficient is quite impressive!
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You would be amazed to know that there are so many black South Africans who don't see any problem with this project. All I see is Afrikaner calvinists who want to preserve their culture and I say more power to them. They are not hurting anyone.
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand, just leave them alone. They aren’t going out and bothering anyone. The government is failing the people, they can be allowed to build their own community. Politics aside, it’s just their private community. I’m amazed their patience for welcoming people who want to make the same video 100x over of “can you believe this Afrikaner only community???” The leader is even if he is a hardcore racist and hateful etc etc, is very humble. Because every time these people come he sits down and answers the same questions no one has right to ask, he could tell people to buzz off.
Why the fuck would u go from a majority white country and go live in a majority African country? Why would u stay? U don’t speak the main language or share the same culture ur incompatible. Far easier to move to a majority white country if u believed ur skin color to be superior. Why should the majority bow down to a minority that couldn’t get their shit straight in Europe.
@@Bwiser63 its fine in the countryside of holland but not in south africa.black or Asian people carnt exclude other people from living in a town they live in europe with laws discriminating against people on the basis of ethnicity or skin colour , so why should that be acceptable in South Africa .
Im an Indian in SA and im proud of these people who chose to live in a crime free and peaceful community ❤. Well done guys, you have decided to work hard for your own little piece of life and legacy.
@@Bravo-khama-soko fool most south african Indians have never even been to india we are born here , god created the earth for everyone not a specific group when you die your body will become ash or dust
The amount of peace i felt just watching this video is nothing short of inspiring. Thats what we all really seek is peace and goodwill and with that comes security and Orania has that in spades. Good for you Orania. Go forth and prosper!
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
Evil leftist Mainstream Media Liars wants to smear all successful Things that White people build as supposed "racist" or "NAZI" or whatever term they can make up out of thin air. Leftism is evil
As a Black Man Living in South Africa , I say this is right , atleast they created their own peace , I like how that old man said a 16 year old girl can walk in the streets at night , Great Town indeed. I feel like these are the white people that were shut out when ANC came into power and they are actually doing a great job, Building houses and creating jobs with a small budget. Even the way their kids are raised , raised with respect , playing sports and running around freely , No Crime , No Witchcraft , No Hatred, No Racists , No Issues , Just pure Joy , The people of Orania motivate me to work hard and get money so I can also build my own town one day!
NO witchcraft 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. i'm Dead! @user-qu6ec8oy2t...I want to live with you in your town. I want us to build it together.. We make sure that we interview all people to check that they don't have witchcraft...That thing is more oppressive than Apartheid. I like you very much!
As a New Zealander I think many places around the world would like a peaceful community with reliable infrastructure. They are building this on their own, private property and no exploitation of other races - what's wrong with that? Good luck to the people of Orania in building a safe and prosperous community.
Not only do I think Orania should remain, I think more communities should do similar things, come together, and work to do things for themselves, and that goes for white, black, Indian and coloured. People are so obsessed with Orania, but I have a feeling it's only because it's relatively successful. If everything there was broken and terrible, nobody would care. There is also (obviously) always an emphasis on the racial aspect. But what makes Orania successful is the social cohesion. Sure, some of that is racial and cultural, but it's more than that. Sharing the same religion, sharing the same goals, agreeing on priorities, similar work ethic, etc. All of these contribute to making Orania what it is today.
I'm black I know it may sound weird to other blacks. But am truly inspired by Orania.When I grew up my mom was working as a Domestic worker in a small town of Ermelo Mpumalanga. So I got used to living in town full of whites infact I was and still fascinated by that. That town was so clean organized and in order , if u can check it now as it is congested by blacks u won't tell dat was the Ermelo of 90s. Then there was Brenthurst in Brakpan Gauteng Orania reminds me of that town in early 2000s I dnt know what is it like now.
And that’s why I love and cherish the Afrikaner people a lot. I am black man from Outjo Namibia. Afrikaner people are very organized, disciplined and strong in their beliefs. Let them live their way of life as they see fit🙏
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
@@hajjimubarak and if you could which you are you would take it back to the bush and live like bushmen...with all the looting and burin you do ..we all have our ways i guess
Sinnce you taling about witchcraft. One night long ago in 2013 I Worked at Woolworths warehouse in Montugue Gardens. On this particular day I worked a 15:00 -23:00 shift, 21:00 I took a brake, went to Joe Slovo to buy weed🌳 I decided to stop by a xhosa guy who worked with me but was at home on that day but not present at home l. As I entered his shack he had a turtle 🐢 in there, I saw candles 🕯 and a voodoo doll & some other stuff. Didn't still take note at the time. His friends were waiting outside. I left coz I needed to get back to work. As I'm jogging I notice I'm being followed. Suddenly no oncoming cars from both ends. I Couldn't see his face only his friends which was weird. I was fighting & tussling with 3 guys with knifes. I Looked down for a brick or something then recognized the guy I worked with by his white shoes coz I couldn't see his face . Called on his name screaming why his doing this. Eventually a truck came driving slow, ran hopped on holding on the back doors of the truck until the Robot. Next day I completely forgot his name & he never came back to work. Is that witchcraft or am I tripping. Still think about it this day trying remember his name.
As black person, I walk around and pray to God to give black community positive mindset to build our community instead of vandalising, littering and gangsterism, then blame the government that they have abandoned it, mmmh, knowing God can change this negative mindset, to self discipline, developing and keep the surroundings clean, so God help🙏🏾
@@maureenmwenda4229 Black people are divided on a lot of issues: Religion, ethnicity, modernity vs traditionalism, class etc. They would have to find themselves along lines of similar ground - however, this will be tough as blacks are big on extended family affairs. There would be challenges.
As a black person, you didn't have your parents enslaving other people and looting natives' land and minerals. You have no capital - financial, skills, social, - to build the black community you are envisioning
I did a solo trip from Johannesburg to Cape Town and stopped in Orania for lunch. I bought some of the best biltong I've ever had and met some incredibly friendly people. Driving through Hope Town, I was disappointed by how run-down it was. However, I knew I was getting closer to Orania when, all of a sudden, the road was tarred, and everywhere I looked, it was green and thriving. I wish all the best for the people of Orania
I understand. Apartheid created extreme poverty in the natives of Africa and 50 and more so years on you are still affected. This is real. Just because it's uncomfortable to say. Should it be blocked? Truth surely is the way forward and history NOT repeating itself. Seek genuine kindness, Seek genuine peace and respect. REMORSE from what their ancestors have done would be a good start.
With all due respect your embracing such says a lot about South Africa and the state that it's in. You speak against the very inheritance of your own people. Wow make it make sense and I'll listen contact me l will truly listen.
@handsenMuvengwa yup they will do like they did us here in america,once they're numbers reach a certain number is when it will go bad for those in proximity
you're preaching diversity is not our strenght and yet they are on someone elses continent. The bloofy irony. Well thing is, whether you like or not and despite how you feel about it, the existing world order is not going to change and you can't do anything about it. Peace unto you.
melvinpako2581 I wish they had done the same during colonialism. This is why South Africans get no respect from Africans. They destroy your culture but you allow them to preserve their in your country. They can go to Netherlands to preserve their culture.
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
I went to visit Orania in June 2024 to see for myself. I did not find any racism or hate, instead I found the people to be friendly, hardworking and extremely proud and protective of their culture and language. Well done, Orania. I loved my time visiting and will be back.
Are you white, black or coloured? Did you expect to see racism or hate written on their foreheads? Of course they are going on with their lives because they have created a community minus those they truly hate.
As a indian traveling all over south africa i see crime and violence im every place i visit so its good to see a community with no crime just hard working people
*As a European colonizer, I really love making fake accounts pretending to be Non-YT so that I can push my Racist European ideologies towards BLK/indigenous people.
I am Lebanese South African. If Lebanese people try live all together in a small community we will just fight and moer each other 😁🫣 I commend these people for holding onto their traditions and culture. And I love all the comments in the comment section to see that South Africans are all so supportive of each other. We truly are a beautiful nation 🫶🙏🇿🇦
Loved the documentary and see no issue peopling wanting to live with like minded individuals It's there choice after all. I don't think it's got anything to fo with race ❤
Great journalism, I didn't realise anywhere like this existed, or was allowed to exist, in South Africa. Maybe on our yearly visit to Cape Town from the UK, we could visit this area.. extremely well presented piece of work, well done.
They are not hurting anyone Mos, I'm a black person from a black village, are we racist for not having white people there? There are lot of places in this country that economically exclude black people (because we don't afford to be there), so I find it interesting that white people are doing something for themselves by themselves. Nothing wrong with that. Let them live their lives in peace with their own ideals. Just because their opinion might be different doesn't make them racist as long as they don't hurt anyone in their journey. No fault no foul
Mfowethu, I agree. But why don't we all try to copy Orania in our own unique ways? And make our communities, scattered across Mzansi a better place for ourselves? We can do it...power to the people, and not promising politicians. Let's challenge ourselves.
Im not from Africa. But here in New Zealand we have native Maori and Pakeha or white. Some Maori live on their traditional Pa which is a village. We don't complain worry about that. The way i see this community is similar. seams like its more a religious place than a racist place to me. Being a free people gives you options. If the land is owned by people who have conditions on sale/ lease agreements. So what????. Seams you think the same.
As a black woman I must say am proud of these folks no racist here , it's a group of people who are tired of noisy SA , crime, corruption, etc big up Orania Community
@@DL_Burns I know a thing or two about him. You just recommend stuff without giving a reason. There is a lot of similarities between Orania and Tulsa. However one was destroyed due to sheer hatred and Jealous. As a born and bred African I believed we been lie to about Black Americans. So you can bug off if you disagree with me trying to educate my african brothers and sister that Black Americans had something similar which was nicknamed The Black wall street. We been told Black Americans are all sort of negative things. Which is a lie. So yh mate F off.
South africa is actually the most dangerous place in africa, most african countries are very safe. Its only where you see a huge number of european people that ends up turning dangerous.
@@ysjmsh It's not sword vs sword, if it was we know how it'd end. They are peacefully let through borders to cause chaos to civilians who are by law not allowed to defend themselves. You would not exist if the "colonizers" were not merciful.
They aren’t bothering anyone and they aren’t asking anyone for anything. They are purely trying to live a peaceful life and persevering their Afrikaans culture. Afrikaners are extremely proud and resilient…
0:01 “frozen in time”, yet the infrastructure, institutions, and overall feel of the town is more advanced, sustainable, and progressive than literally the entire country that it has the burden of being within. Lmao
This documentary sheds light on the complex story of Orania - a town that sparks deep debates about race, culture, and self-governance in South Africa. 🌍🧐 Truly thought-provoking content! ✨
One point that wasn’t mentioned is that Orania has been developed entirely on private property. They bought a huge piece of land and developed it for their own use. I don’t see a problem with that. I wouldn’t like to live in such an insular community because I enjoy meeting people from all walks of life. We’re all different and that’s okay 😊
@@ScelohMkhize In December 1990, about 40 Afrikaner families bought the dilapidated town of Orania for around R1.5 million from the Department of Water Affairs.
As a black South African man, I have to say I admire this, this is how life is meant to be lived, this is a community of likeminded individuals that choose to live their lives with intention. It really has nothing to do with race and more about preserving one’s cultural heritage. This is beautiful
That ideology is very limited my guy. They have pensions from apartheid and investment from apartheid profitiers. This is trying to re enforce black inferiority in your psyche brother. .they are building with what they stole . Their way has no concept of justice for the poor, disadvantaged.
Wait till they flood Africa with white Europeans and they start branching out developing land.Thats when you will see how this really isn't a good thing
@@BetterOffRedThanDead Their ancestors landed on empty land in the 1600's. Orania is also built on private property they legally purchased. They are not bothering anybody and simply want to continue living in peace and prosperity.
@@richlopez5896 'empty land' is a classic settler-colonial myth, in other words a bogus claim, especially when they don't consider Indigenous people human beings worthy of agency. whether or not they 'bought' the land is irrelevant due to the fact that it was stolen in the first place.
@@BetterOffRedThanDeadthe land was bought from the ANC government 😂 you actually have no idea what you're talking about and are talking nonsense. Go read up on the Great Trek and Mfecane, then we can have a conversation. Here's another fun fact: Dinuzulu's Volunteers 😂 Afrikaners helped unite the Zulu after British broke them up. You have zero understanding about anything South African.
Whites are a small minority in SA, and the afrikaaners are the real indigenous people of South Africa, the area they settled had no one in it. They should protect themselves and their race/culture.
And now they are called racist😪 sad part is, people forget that in their own township, there is no whites, coloureds or even idians. How about the township just outside PE called Motherwell.... if your not black, you in danger. Every one fights about land, but we tend to forget, we didnt create this earth, and when you die, you dont take it with. Everyone claims this country is his land, but its not. It stay behind as you die and your body becomes part of it. You as a human are the property of this land.
So what? They want to preserve their own culture. I don't see anything wrong with it. Why is it everytime a White culture wants to do this, it is looked at as racist, yet if any non-White culture wants to do this... then everyone praises it? Many countries are fighting back against deluding their culture. I don't care what race you are or what religion you do or don't follow. If you flee/move from one country to another, than I believe you should do your best to assimilate. It's possible, in fact easy to preserve your own while assimilating yourself into your new home. If you are stomping your way into your new country while dragging your former country's ways, or insisting that others accept YOUR ways then why leave?
No offence, and this is nothing against the people of this town, but isn't that technically what happened in South Africa? White people aren't native to the region at all and ended up replacing black people in some regions due to colonisation, which by definition was foreigners ruling over natives (extremely simplified, I know). Then, this town was established as what's a white ethnotown (I know that's not a word but it's not a state). Shouldn't they just assimilate with the native black groups instead? I do agree with your 2nd paragraph, by the way. I'm all for better controls on immigration and people assimilating, but at the same time it has to go both ways too. If black people have to assimilate into Europe and not create black-only areas, which isn't happening anyway contrary to what many believe (not saying you do), then white people must also assimilate. This has to go for all groups and I'm not trying to hate on this town but I think many people are missing this. All groups should have to assimilate and white people are suddenly exempt from that.
@@bestrafung2754 The native blacks of South Africa were displaced by different blacks that came from further north before, during, and after apartheid. But no one calls them out on it because "anti-racists" can only see skin color and don't understand the intricacies of ethnicity and culture.
@@Nipah.Auauau I'm very aware of that kind of thing in Africa happening and that never should've happened. Obviously anyone doing that should be called out and I'd say it's related to my point if anything. I'm very aware of ethnicity and culture too.
honestly this is SO inspiring. if every community would build a future for themselves this way - becoming self sufficient, growing their own food, creating their own economy and education systems - focusing on a sense of togetherness and wholeness in their community - the world would be a better place! this has nothing to do with racism. it's all about being self sufficient - not outsourcing labor - not relying on the government or anyone else to help them - making them a stronger community because of it. i think it's really beautiful that they kept those donated monuments from the past. it's a beautiful thing to acknowledge the past - all of it, the good, the bad and remember not erase it - use those lessons to build up from. this is really eye opening and inspiring.
Very well said. This should be a model for other countries to look at instead of criticizing it. It obviously works. They share one culture. One language. There are reasons why other countries are starting to fail because none of the people have little in common when you put a bunch of different cultures together
I understand their need to preserve their culture. I also respect the fact that they legally obtained that land and didn't infringe on anyone's rights or killed anyone for that land.
It is a settlement like Israelis are creating that is built under a mythology that is only protected by weapons and white supremacy order. This is stealing your historical lands. They came in and legalize their illegal settlements similar to Israel.
If this happened in America, if people were demanding a town for white Protestants only- with the stipulation that they have pure English blood, too- you would be utterly appalled. You would call them worse than the KKK.
Agree. Its more of an Afrikaner culture, Christian Calvinist thing. So if I as a white Afrikaner is for example a non-believer, or has a criminal record, Orania won't allow me in.
this is a stupid comment. People In townships were placed there they didn't choose those Areas have your forgotten what the group areas act was for? Some of you think with your bums I swear
I am black and I really do understand the first guy you interviewed POV. They have nearly zero crimes and they are happy. They don't seem to bother anyone too so let them be. Racist or not they have created their little heaven.
Almost like a certain group of people who invaded thought they could call the shots and the original people told them to get out. Historical Accuracy would show that invaders tried grabbing mass majority of land for their minority population... and tried to segregate in a foreign land. The nerve of these historically accurate atrocities by these invading people. Everything I said is historically accurate and is easily accessible info.
@@Labyrinth6000 It's not hypocritical.. I'm speaking of the more recent happeninga in history related to this video. You're deflecting. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@LastTrueElk You're not familiar with the History of South Africa are you Mr Historically Accurate? Look up the Bantu Expansion and how what you would regard as the indigenous of South Africa wiped out the real indigenous (and not only in South Africa, in most of South, Eastern and Central Africa). Come back when you have an appreciation of the region and a historical reference that extends beyond the TV Age!
Honestly this is amazing,zero crime,zero corruption,people working together,building their own houses. Diversity is amazing,but is this. There is so much to take home from this. Leave Orania alone,let us focus on rebuilding and cleaning our diverse South Africa. And yes im black and i say thumbs up Orania!
I am an Irish woman, obviously white. Ireland is being destroyed by multiculturalism and uncontrolled mass immigration. I would love to live in a place like this, but I probably wouldn’t be accepted as I am neither an Afrikaaner nor a Calvinist. I suppose I could convert. Best wishes to all Oranians.
@@joelmclamore1898Moving is not a solution. The USA is a country where you can go into a store, steal whatever you want and no one, including the police, will do anything. The USA, like the entire EU, is going in the wrong direction. Everyone needs to clean up their problems so that we can live in peace. Greetings from Poland, from a country that is not going in the wrong direction, it is running.
I am an indian and whenever i see white majority towns they are very clean, well planned, peaceful, calm and economy is always good like how they do it
Just a different culture, nothing magic. The UK is being turned on its head ATM. Currently there are demonstrations against mass immigration that has done so much social damage.
They have an insane amount of autonomy. Their own currency, power grid, airport. Wild stuff. It's smart. They can't depend on the failing country they live in. Also, if you want to run a racism litmus test in South Africa, you gotta ask people about their opinions on Rhodesia.
@@gazg00 Zulus are Africans its their biological right to own land in their province, these people do not belong in SA yet they decide who goes in and out in our own land
As a Zulu boy I totally understand.
In Kzn there are Zulu chiefs who control massive pieces of land and build communities based on their cultural heritage and no one ever complains.
Orania should be left alone to strive on their terms which aren't affecting any outsider. ✌️💪
Waar!👍
The Ngonyama Trust and ALL tribal land holders should be ashamed of themselves. Give people title deeds so they can invest in their communities.
They won’t because tribal leadership wants to control them.
Im from Durban and I love the Zulu culture
This is so accurate!
Double standards so many and so high
The Zulus you mentioning those lands belonged to their ancestors not the same with whites in Orania who children of settlers.
As a black person, all I see here is a group of white people protecting themselves from the brutality of South African Criminals. It's very inspiring.
i respect your honesty so much brother
You are not black please
Ain't no fucken way you're black
You are not black. There is no way
As a white I'm shocked you would think that.
Kids and women can walk around safely without being murdered, this place should be a model for the whole country.
You don’t get the point. Exclusion of black peoples is the reason no crime
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
no make it happen yourself
This WAS the model for the whole country. Then it was called racist.
@@rovhalt6650 thats fslse because that model was never for the entirety of the whole country ,but only for thoes who happened to be born white through the accident of birth,
otherwise your living in the most densely populated ,ugly housing ,poverty striken conditions ,poor access to resources ,health care ,clean water, poor sewage.
after the so caled end of Apatehid the same inequities are as rampant and visible as ever ,
when it comes to asthetically pleasing ,housing ,attractive streets,gardens, adjcent parks,
where are thoes conditions for the whole country
.the truth is nothing has changed fundamentally on the ground for the whole country..
I am black, and what is happening in Orania is truly inspiring. I think each and every community in South Africa should strive to be like Orania.
Intentional communities are a great idea. Look at gated communities. But by definition, not everyone can be in a gated community, right?
Well said .... I wish lot more people would take a leaf out of the book from what these people have achieved
I cannot agree with you more, I am a coloured who have to dodge bullets everyday In Cape town, so this type of lifestyle these people live, I find very inspiring, I wish I can live a peaceful life like that, not having to live in fear every day.
Atleast there's a difference between being black and being African
@@blossom6235 Who put y'all in those conditions?
I am a so called Coloured in South Africa and say this...Orania asks nothing from anyone....does everything themselves....no crime and lots of our politicians have been there and are impressed so stop with this nonsense and leave them be!!!
Yeah and it's private property that they bought from the ANC, and here comes Malema and saysche will build RDP houses there for black people
Still goes against the fundamentals of the Universe. Abandon yourself to self.
@Zenda_Nior that may be true but the way SA is run goes against the fundamentals of the universe so I would rather pick this if I had the choice
No crime? You have not been watching and\ listening. Mr CEO just said thats not true. Saying "leave them be" while they defend Hendrik who oppressed and beat your parents' a55 like kids and murdered many innocents? I bet Hendrik didn't say "leave them be". You one hell of a person, no wonder you coloureds get fooled so easily
Something wrong with yall.
“Frozen in time”
Solar farms, modern cars, and internet.
Exactly, also how is it apartheid if they’re not any blacks?
Frozen in time ideological speaking.
@@opoxious1592 Seems like a good thing.
Oh rather have some murder rate al la Johannesburg instead?@@opoxious1592
@@JacobPotvin Hitler was white.
I'm an Indian guy but I really admire what they doing, just look at South Africa as a whole.The government just messed up everything, even with allowing foreigners in S.A to do as they please.The people should be proud of Orania
why do Indians always support white people like bro 😂😂
@@inquisa Its not called supporting whites smh 🤦♂️
@@inquisa because they are house n*** of before 1947
Nobody wants to do this stuff in their Own country. Europeans love to settle in other people's country then call it their own. It must be in they're blood. Whatever country your ancestors came from is your country. Go there and settle down.
And your Indian media attacks them
I'm black and I wish the very best for the people in Orania.
why rest of the black people are bad and terror. They’re heart is black like them.
As a American I like your generosity and kindness. The last election African Americans massively voted for someone who is often called a racist, President Trump.
The most important thing about Orania is they have a unified culture and they do not outsource any labor.
Outsource of labor is done when corporations want to profit... there are no corporations and companies here.
Wait until the Saturn comes and brings in usury
If only their ancestors would have thought the same. Some much troubles they would have saved themselves now.
14:00 The Ora. They did their research here and uniquely made their own legal tender aka currency.
The most important thing is they don’t have ‘load shedding’!…they can also get a driving license fast and not the 6 months it usually takes elsewhere. Do you think they get away with bribing police?
I'm a non white South African and I applaud the Afrikaans community for standing together and building a life for themselves without asking government for anything
Thanks, you are one of the good ones.
We love your kind.😊
@@Saminormyone of the good ones ??????
@@notabot0001 yes modt black south africans like to complain about white people or go on trying to get us in trouble
@@notabot0001 LMAO
ANC destroyed Bophuthatswana today is leading in unemployment.
No killing, no rape, no stealing, a flower in a sewage dump
Essentially Orania is the lotus flower which from the swampy mucky water rises the virgin white pristine flower, the lotus.
After taking all the wealth of African it's gonna be safe
They don’t have steel in Orania? 😮
@@abubakerrehman81683000 people are stealing from Africa? They do all the manual labor there. It's a very small town.
@@timharper4246stfu this comment sounds stupid
This story runs and runs. European settlers arrived in S.A. 600 years ago, apartheid was practically in force for 30 years and yet it continues to be the only narrative. The Afrikaners are not against anything, they are only for their own future. Nothing stopping any community doing the same for their culture.
The official term is 42 years (1948-1990). Also laws like Apartheid DO NOT just spring into existence. Laws like these follow cultural norm, and the cultural norms of exclusion of Blacks precedes Apattheid by a lot.
Apartheid was the worst thing to happen in South Africa. You cannot simply minimise that lived experience because it didn't affect you.
@@storiesrecap2400 It did affect me and continues to. Did it affect you?
@@riichobamin7612 precedes; so pre- 1948, 70 years ago. And now South Africa has uncontrolled crime, including rape, murder, armed robberies, a falling economy, crumbling infrastructure which includes power cuts, undrinkable water, pollution in rivers and dams. So rather focussing on a few people living in the middle of nowhere and problems of the past, perhaps a report on today; and how the rest of South Africa got so bad might be useful?
@@neuselableyou ever consider how apartheid and the uk mining natural resources for hundreds of years could make them a little unhappy and unstable? if you wanna make the argument they could stop focusing so heavily on the past that would be fine except even as an afrikaner it’s a common fact that we’re seen as racist ignorant assholes and live up to it fully. don’t ignore history
"No-one is coming to save you" and "create your future" are really messages that all South Africans should take to heart. To many people are waiting for the government to save them, or to simply give them a future, and it's just never going to happen.
The government fucked them over so its only fair
It us the toxic mindset in this country. They all think someone owes them everything.
I love this attitude. It is completely opposite of the “victim” mentality that is being pushed by Leftists and race hustlers in America.
So, return to the Netherlands and wallow in your 'culture' to your heart's content.
@@Dr_Smooches_Goodbaby no need. Loving life in South Africa thanks. This is a beautiful country with beautiful people in it and so much potential. If you want to live with spite and hate in your heart then that's on you, but the message was you can have whatever life you want in South Africa, just its up to you to go and get it. Government is not going to give you anything. Good luck.
Orania is controversial cause it's successful.. if it turned into a township people wouldn't care...
Now try saying K K K is controversial because they unsuccessful. Some folk lost their ability to consume and think things through. Instead, give me a keyboard let me type.
@@__SM__1 kkk isn't controversial it's just wrong/bad/evil
Hit the nail on the head
@@__SM__1 He has a point. There are many whites only squatter camps and nobody says anything
@petero7937 not disputing its "successful", whatever that means but to say its controversial because of that, I am not sure. I am for all inclusive. Not for cut a piece of the land and keep to self.
This town is more Dutch than the entire country of Nederlands.
Womp womp
You're being emotional and generalizing
@@n.vaneeleber6733 Realty
We are not Dutch, we are Afrikaners! Africa is our homeland.
Would they accept Dutch people in Orania when they want to move there @sonorastar2239?
Just because I prefer to be associated with my own culture, my own race, doesn't make me a racist.
What do u see when u look at a human being, colour ?
Except that the origins and horizons of that statement are deeply, irretrievably racist.
I agree
yes it does lmfao haha I'm glad im from the USA
@@noahdiana3206 how so?
As a black South African I’m fully behind the idea of cultural preservation & maintaining community values as long as those values aren’t rooted in hatred & racism.
It someone’s says they don’t want black people that’s not racism to you?😂
Problem is, who defines racism? Some would argue the very existence of Orania is racist. Separation of races is the only way to go. Tens of thousands of Africans have landed in Ireland in the last few years and they turned the non-racist Irish into racists by their degenerate behaviour of violence and robberies. The cultures are simply incompatible and I see the races going to war against each other in Ireland as a result, as the government and Police are on the side of the criminal element of immigrants which is a far higher % than the native population. Is what I said racist or hatred in your view? If you say yes, then that's why we need to be kept separate.
I agree. Its about preserving a language and culture. It is challenging in a country with 11 official languages.
Orania is not a whites-only town. English South Africans don't have a culture so they get confused.
Fully Agree
The "whites-only" assertion and title are misleading. It's an Afrikaners-only town. British decendent whites can't live there either. Not French whites, not German whites, none of that. The point is to preserve their culture, not racial segregation.
Nothing wrong with racial segregation
They should extend it to whites only. Many white refugees from Western Europe would move there.
@@Zdamaneta Eropeans don’t like ech other. Hence the millennium of cnstant fighting. Biggest wars in history trace mostly to Erope, ie, WW1, WW2, Cold War. Fast forward to today: Russia against Ukraine/NATO. Which furthers my point……
@@Egr-et6ar in the past. But today we europeans are an endangered species, we have to look after each other
@@Cacciatore_Raccoglitore Yes Russia and Ukraine/NATO are looking out for each other. If you know what I mean.
Using the Ora in the town as a 'coupon' currency is absolutely genius, including the fact that the rand are held to earn interest in the bank and profits used toward the community itself while also making it pointless to hold a robbery at the outlets. It's a great idea I love it.
This may come as a shock...but none of that is new, and used to be used extensively in the territories of the U.S. prior to 1920. Secondarily, while a fine idea for smaller colonies or territories of companies, it cannot expand at an industrial scale at any speed using that system, without a better standardisation and backing by outside trade company territories. Internally they will be quite stable, with the exception of any imports or exports at a larger scale.
Not even Fordlandia was fully self-sufficient in any way, any more than any amish or mennonite colony ever was or is. And to reach true corporate autonomy & sovereignty...you have to become at least somewhat bulletproof.
@@TheCaptainSlappy So the reason US abandoned decentralized currency, does not apply there, therefore it is a smart workaround for the situation. You basically just explained his point back to him in a very obnoxious way.
@@Snartfoodler So...me explaining exactly the opposite of you talking out your bumhole knowing nothing of how currency has ever worked much less works, is ironic.
Circulating currency. A coupon system is genius and follows the foundation of currency: trust.
Not with coupons but many Jewish communities did similar things. Circulating currency among a small community raises its value inherently. The African Americans did something similar too... However, there was intervention.
Also, the money Isn't controlled by a single rich man.
Makes me think of the mass immigration into Australia, they say we have a labour shortage, well if after 20+ years of mass immigration we still have a labour shortage I call BS. You can always do your own work.
Yeah the aboriginals are almost gone.
@incrediblehulk8031 but they don't work
@@TheGunmanChannel doesn’t mean they deserve a genocide in their own native land. Sicko
@@incrediblehulk8031they have essentially remained wards of the state
Australia is a similar but different topic. The aborigines have incentives and funding anywhere in the country. Yet they don’t work or study. Most of them sit around and drink beer. Very sad. Some immigrants are causing crime and major cities like Melbourne are becoming over populated
IM BLACK, LETS TAKE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE AND BUILD OUR OWN GODDAM TOWN AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT TRYING TO MOVE IN IN OTHER PEOPLES TOWN SIMPLE.
Blk folks did already a full owned thriving black town yt folks bombed it smh
@@Ken-ib6ukso you stop and give up?
@@jrock2019
Right, you know how many Europeans town have been obliterated only to be rebuilt. Kiev was completely devastated by the Mongols, it's still there
@@Yukyuk96yeah the Jews elite families destroyed them
@@Yukyuk96which ones 😂
"Frozen in time"? It's like one of the only places in the country that's moving forward and making a success of itself. Wtf are you talking about?
They believe the medias lies over their own eyes. It’s sad how people allow themselves to be fooled by people they don’t even know. And they’re proud of it.
@dimann1090yeah He is racist
@dimann1090 He is implying somethign nefarious which is sad.
"Frozen in time", I guess Whites cannot have a community let alone a nation of our own anymore without being socially pressured into believing that it makes us evil.
exactly my thought.
A town “frozen in time”??? More like a town living in the future.
Well said.
Exactly
I know right? Like when I heard him say “ frozen in time” all I saw is a modern town that had everything modern, definitely because of the rule that town had.
They need to go back to Europe. Africa is not native land to the off spring of Dutch Settlers
I think he meant it hasn't gone all to shit like the rest of SA.
VERY nice to see many positive comments!
Nothing wrong with keeping cultures alive, whether it's black, asian, indigenous, white.
Everybody has history.
Don't complain, build your tribe-only village with your own values
That line of thinking is dangerous
@@nzeadidnazi8410how is it dangerous? Tribalism has always existed.
@@azhariarif ...what if the Africans paint racism on top of their tribalism, do you understand what am say?
@@azhariarif Indeed it was absolutely dangerous since its only deepens the racial/ethnic segragations that already plagued South Africa, legscies from the Apartheid era.
@@ignatiusryd2031 Depends. Apartheid was the last time when South Africa were functioning.
Looks like a roughly 0% obesity rate as well. Go figure.
I noticed that!!
The first guy who spoke to is definitely considered obese. Or did you miss that
@@blad3brown569He’s going by Americn standard.
no crime or riots or drug use either
@@blad3brown569 the youth are health conscious. thats rare in america
From Kenya, I don't think there's a problem having a boers only place or any other ethnicity. The real question is why would you want to force people who want to live in seclusion to live among you if you don't have any sinister intentions.
Exactly in my opinion if they’re not harming anyone and they literally seem like they’re the middle of nowhere off the grid why force them to become a part of wider South Africa when they clearly seem content keeping to themselves
@@BourneIdentity45 I couldn't agree more and I think that should be the standard for freedom. So long as no human rights are violated and consent is agreed upon by the community. After all there are protected groups all over the world and in proper countries they live just fine. Like the Armish and Momorns in the US. Or the uncontacted island tribes
@@sageforce9306 the part that I find interesting is that if you take race and their Afrikaaner ethnicity out of it, how is it that they’re able to create a brand new community off grid like this essentially start over and look like they’re thriving, while most nations with their cities and governments are corrupt and have issues with crime safety homelessness, like in my opinion I’d rather live in a close community like this one than a huge city, and tbh I think as humans we all look for that deep down somewhere, a community of people who share have a common set of ideals and a goal for a future. As someone who has heard the stories of white farmers and other whites in South Africa being killed it makes me understand why a community like this would be made in the first place but from what I’ve seen in the video especially with the girl he was talking to she didn’t seem to think that living there was the be all end all it was more that it was her home and she was raised there but still wanted to see the world for me that told me enough about them not being problematic
@@BourneIdentity45 true. I have to confess that for some rooted reason multiculturalism does not really work apart from a few exceptions. People who have conflicting ideas and world views should for the most part live apart to avoid conflict. African communities love to blame and while some blames bare weight I feel it boils down to lack of accountability on our part as a whole. That's why I like some one like Traore because he has borne responsibility for his people and done what he see's fit to protect them and advance them not thinking about what others think. That's the only way only results will speak of his actions
@@sageforce9306 completely agree I honestly think that multiculturalism was manufactured to bring conflict between communities you can see this with what’s been going on in the UK and other parts of Europe sure these countries aren’t necessarily Christian nor was Christianity created in them but they hold a lot of values that align with Christianity and then in the last few decades there’s been a lot of clashes between Islam and western values and that’s not to say that someone who is Islamic can’t live in the west but most of the time even moderate Muslims tend to have very conservative views even if they don’t think they should be governed by the law. A prime example of this is why Pakistan and India were split into two countries simply because the even though they’re essentially the same people they couldn’t co exist, you can see the same with the balkans with Bosnia Serbia Croatia Kosovo Albania all very similar cultures holding similar values but eventually had to split through wars
I'm also black we support them everyone must focus on their culture.
It is not a whites only town it is a Afrikaner only town.
Thats true, all Afrikaners are White...but not all Whites are Afrikaners
No it is white only town afrkkana speak white
@@peterbillas9131learn how to speak properly
@@hyperquantum3020 So I cant be an Afrikaner because Im not white? Thats the stupidest thing I ever heard. Who told you this?
There are plenty of coloured people who are Afrikaans.
Why is everyone obsessed with Orania, it is private property, with people doing their own thing, so leave them alone, if you are not Afrikaans and have no interest in their culture, let them be, they are not doing anyone any harm.
I agree… and I’m black
For real they don't do anything wrong. There are plenty of villages that don't let any outsider settle there for various reasons. No one outside of my family can settle in the village of my father in Turkey. You can buy property there but believe me you will never be able to live there no matter which ethnicity you have or the language you speak.
No we shouldn’t leave them alone because if blacks tried this in USA or Europe it won’t be allowed. So no.
@@kingjams tried what exactly? Building a community? Blacks don’t try this because they don’t have unity… it’s perfectly legal and every single race does the exact same thing all over the world except for black people, why… because we have no unity
@@kingjams you can do it is someone holding you back. Get a community of blacks together BUY the land and go ahead who's gonna stop you if you own the land?
I'm jealous. As humans we all just crave peace. Big ups to the oranians
Don’t be jealous, & do something , stand up & teach y’al folks. If y’al wanted to be like them.
Don't worry once they gain enough power/greed.. Its germany all over again with their christians.. Give them too much power.. guess what happens lol.
@@seanpetaia But first you have to exploit people so that you have the money to buy such a large piece of land. That's all the money that was generated through colonialism.
@@seanpetaiauma andorinha sozinha não faz verão.
@@seanpetaia No one wants to be like these selfish people and if anyone is looking for peace. Peace is found within... You don't run from people(black) to find peace.
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I am black but i see nothing wrong with people of same culture wanting to have a place of their own to preserve their cultural identity. Leave them alone!!!they look happy
This video is more of a propaganda video than a none-bias truth - SMWX "Orania’s dark history: the story of South Africa’s whites-only town" video on TH-cam is none-bias and speaks the truth about the architects of Oriana are the same architects of Apartheid. SMWX video is Worth watching
You're ignorant as a black person if you like this
I am sure white South Africans living in gated communities during Apartheid also looked happy
You're black, ha ha, really? From what country?
Please educate yourself, that's pathetic
If Zulu people would revamp Kwa Maye-Maye and have a similar approach as Orania they'd be labeled as tribalists so i really don't care about what South Africans think about this town,us black people we can't even mobilize our own communities
I think every culture needs a core-town, especially if it's self-built and developed.
The biggest irony is that each different ethnicity in Europe has their own country, whereas Africa, as a colonised continent, was split by colonial interests both combining and splitting up ethnic groups. Although it does seem a bit extreme at this point to realise that same future in a country like SA that has so many ethnic groups, it does make you wonder about how much more complicated governance becomes when the political leaders aren't representing the same ethnicity or culture as the whole population when all countries in Europe essentially have that convenience. So in that logic yes, if Afrikaners can do so with Orania, any ethnic group should have the right to self-determination and self governance
what do you think an informal setlement is ??? and how the self build infrastructure and law doing there
zulu past is in the bush
thank white man for builing a country
The Ngonyama Trust and ALL tribal land holders should be ashamed of themselves. Give people title deeds so they can invest in their communities.
They won’t because tribal leadership wants to control them.
I don't have a problem with Orania , preserving your language and culture is important
Then preserve the culture out of AFRICA.
Not when it's predicated on historical racism and a product of failed segregation 😂 but ok
@@Gj-8422 Wena uyile type eno mona nasebantwini abamnyama LOL. Abanye abantu do with the lil they have unlike oMalema benu that also send their kids to white schools, stay in those areas too.
It's too late for that. Hundreds of years to late. Don't be fullish. Build together
@@Gj-8422 You nailed it. They can't go back to Holland because apparently, Holland wants NOTHING to do with them. Even Holland thinks they're in the wrong for being in Africa.
Great coverage, non bias shows what can be achieved when communities stand together definitely on my bucket list.
So it's not WHITES only, it's AFRIKAANER only. I'm White, but I wouldn't be able to live there either. This is pretty much the same concept as each black tribe having their own territory/villages, and no one has any issue with THAT, but when Afrikaaners do literally the same thing, it's suddenly seen as a problem.
Africa Is a black continent they are not Africans and never will be they are all from europe
Yea it's and we don't want such disgusting places in Africa.
Exactly. I couldn't move there either, since I don't speak Afrikaans. I am from a similar ethnic and religious background though.
Whenever white people are doing their own thing by themselves and doing well, they are always attacked for doing it when any other color of people are doing the same thing they are applauded. The world is against white people.
Well one of their "heroes" was a plain racist so...
The title should be “I visited South Africa’s only safe town”
I visited your wife last night
@deepseashark5951 Nothing like the rest of the country, and you know it.
I imagine two neighbours having a boundary dispute over a fence line (I imagine these are the types of criminal problems they will be having in a growing town) is the type of crimes taking place, maybe bar fights etc, not raping Young women.
@@Rendarth1but it does happen that’s the point. Which means those people are no better than the others.
@@cookiemoney2462 That makes no sense whatsoever. They've built a community that is *substantially* better than most of the rest of the country.
People are just angry that a successful community can exist without diversity.
yes , im Tunisian from holland, ik kan ook afrikaans, blanken in Orania weten hoe ze moeten leven, de rest is jaloers. S
Most successful communities are successful exactly because there is no diversity.
I’m just angry at them because they’re white
That’s not it at all, you sound silly..
So you think that's the issue here????
Thank you for this Josh, I have always wanted to know more about this town. This insight is so different from what we have been fed by mainstream media. I really am envious of this town, the values and the peace. Reminds me of when I grew up in a military base in the 90s. We slept with unlocked doors right until I was in high school.
No loud music in every corner , no drugs , no crime , clean streets , no gangs etc.. Orania sounds good to me 👍
That’s not your country immigrant
Questão de tempo
Até serem atacados
Se for bom só p um grupo
E outro não
Não vai dar certo.
@@l-pv5793 its not? we only built it from the ground up. The electricity running water even down to the fact you can read. All came here because of US. We made it better and built it from nothing. Under us you had jobs stability security and running water all day. You cant even argue against it because the literal state of south africa is a testament to the TRUTH. Notice how orania is fine? its not an issue of blaming us or your people its an issue of management and no offense you cant manage yourselves where as we succeed anywhere
Move there then
@@evandersoncarlos312i pray they're not attacked
Scott Adam's was right. This looks like paradise.
japan is like that too but whites are welcomed
I'm coloured, and honestly i am a little jealous of how peaceful the town is. Also, how the community stand united and being this self sufficient is quite impressive!
Same! as an English South African
@@sarah-annvandermerwe3304 marry me
They have another money.
Wtf is coloured only one race I know who can be a few colours ur ppl are brain washed
Its because they are wealthy. If people have money they are peaceful
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You would be amazed to know that there are so many black South Africans who don't see any problem with this project. All I see is Afrikaner calvinists who want to preserve their culture and I say more power to them. They are not hurting anyone.
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand, just leave them alone. They aren’t going out and bothering anyone.
The government is failing the people, they can be allowed to build their own community.
Politics aside, it’s just their private community.
I’m amazed their patience for welcoming people who want to make the same video 100x over of “can you believe this Afrikaner only community???”
The leader is even if he is a hardcore racist and hateful etc etc, is very humble. Because every time these people come he sits down and answers the same questions no one has right to ask, he could tell people to buzz off.
He doesn't stop being racist because of that. They may live there, but it is not their country originally.
Yes,it reminds me of the Amish communities in the US. They are isolated and live very differently from the rest of the US.
@ajd1288-xz5nq Do you think racist people think like this?
@ajd1288-xz5nq Did the implementers of Apartheid think so? If we all come from the same land, this community should allow black people to enter.
It’s not a white only town, it’s a Dutch Afrikaner Boer only town. I couldn’t live there because I’m not a Boer.
Mixing cultures and races NEVER works. It's sad, but there's no way out. Living in your own countries and communities is good for everyone.
I too am disqulified from living there but what kind of a mean spirited ogre must you be to want to forcibly integrate this town?
I see nothing wrong with this town.
Why the fuck would u go from a majority white country and go live in a majority African country? Why would u stay? U don’t speak the main language or share the same culture ur incompatible. Far easier to move to a majority white country if u believed ur skin color to be superior. Why should the majority bow down to a minority that couldn’t get their shit straight in Europe.
@@Bwiser63 its fine in the countryside of holland but not in south africa.black or Asian people carnt exclude other people from living in a town they live in europe with laws discriminating against people on the basis of ethnicity or skin colour , so why should that be acceptable in South Africa .
Im an Indian in SA and im proud of these people who chose to live in a crime free and peaceful community ❤. Well done guys, you have decided to work hard for your own little piece of life and legacy.
Tough to achieve that in someone else's land. Learn from Israel.
When are you going back to India?
Dat ship heet 't stockpaerdt
Go visit
@@Bravo-khama-soko fool most south african Indians have never even been to india we are born here , god created the earth for everyone not a specific group when you die your body will become ash or dust
The amount of peace i felt just watching this video is nothing short of inspiring. Thats what we all really seek is peace and goodwill and with that comes security and Orania has that in spades. Good for you Orania. Go forth and prosper!
What is the obsession with this remote little town - get over it and leave them alone.
If something is unique, then the world will always want to see it and judge it in their own ways. That's the curse of being unique.
For real😂
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
Evil leftist Mainstream Media Liars wants to smear all successful Things that White people build as supposed "racist" or "NAZI" or whatever term they can make up out of thin air. Leftism is evil
the jew wants to let them in so they can destroy it
As a Black Man Living in South Africa , I say this is right , atleast they created their own peace , I like how that old man said a 16 year old girl can walk in the streets at night , Great Town indeed. I feel like these are the white people that were shut out when ANC came into power and they are actually doing a great job, Building houses and creating jobs with a small budget. Even the way their kids are raised , raised with respect , playing sports and running around freely , No Crime , No Witchcraft , No Hatred, No Racists , No Issues , Just pure Joy , The people of Orania motivate me to work hard and get money so I can also build my own town one day!
100%. This is simply the ideal community structure one would love to live in, peaceful, safe and feels like home.
I hope you build a successful town with peace, prosperity and a safe environment! That's what we all need in South Africa!
NO witchcraft 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. i'm Dead! @user-qu6ec8oy2t...I want to live with you in your town. I want us to build it together.. We make sure that we interview all people to check that they don't have witchcraft...That thing is more oppressive than Apartheid. I like you very much!
As a New Zealander I think many places around the world would like a peaceful community with reliable infrastructure. They are building this on their own, private property and no exploitation of other races - what's wrong with that? Good luck to the people of Orania in building a safe and prosperous community.
I bet you do 😅
Not only do I think Orania should remain, I think more communities should do similar things, come together, and work to do things for themselves, and that goes for white, black, Indian and coloured.
People are so obsessed with Orania, but I have a feeling it's only because it's relatively successful. If everything there was broken and terrible, nobody would care.
There is also (obviously) always an emphasis on the racial aspect. But what makes Orania successful is the social cohesion. Sure, some of that is racial and cultural, but it's more than that. Sharing the same religion, sharing the same goals, agreeing on priorities, similar work ethic, etc. All of these contribute to making Orania what it is today.
How can you people be okay with a whites only town. How does it feel to be excluded for the color of your skin on your own land??? Wow!
You really hit the nail on the head with that one 😎👍
I'm black I know it may sound weird to other blacks. But am truly inspired by Orania.When I grew up my mom was working as a Domestic worker in a small town of Ermelo Mpumalanga. So I got used to living in town full of whites infact I was and still fascinated by that. That town was so clean organized and in order , if u can check it now as it is congested by blacks u won't tell dat was the Ermelo of 90s.
Then there was Brenthurst in Brakpan Gauteng Orania reminds me of that town in early 2000s I dnt know what is it like now.
And that’s why I love and cherish the Afrikaner people a lot. I am black man from Outjo Namibia. Afrikaner people are very organized, disciplined and strong in their beliefs. Let them live their way of life as they see fit🙏
Don't be a shill, if they could they would take South Africa to the days of apartheid
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
@@hajjimubarak
He..he..he..
@@hajjimubarak and if you could which you are you would take it back to the bush and live like bushmen...with all the looting and burin you do ..we all have our ways i guess
@@hajjimubarakor can be a example of what the whole country could be like.
As a Xhosa guy we can learn from Orania instead of crime, jealousy and witchcraft
Uphambene Simphiwe
This a community with one common goal😊❤❤
This town isn't a crime-free town though - 7:50
100% with you Sir, being xhosa myself I can relate
Sinnce you taling about witchcraft. One night long ago in 2013 I Worked at Woolworths warehouse in Montugue Gardens. On this particular day I worked a 15:00 -23:00 shift, 21:00 I took a brake, went to Joe Slovo to buy weed🌳 I decided to stop by a xhosa guy who worked with me but was at home on that day but not present at home l. As I entered his shack he had a turtle 🐢 in there, I saw candles 🕯 and a voodoo doll & some other stuff. Didn't still take note at the time. His friends were waiting outside. I left coz I needed to get back to work. As I'm jogging I notice I'm being followed. Suddenly no oncoming cars from both ends. I Couldn't see his face only his friends which was weird. I was fighting & tussling with 3 guys with knifes. I Looked down for a brick or something then recognized the guy I worked with by his white shoes coz I couldn't see his face . Called on his name screaming why his doing this. Eventually a truck came driving slow, ran hopped on holding on the back doors of the truck until the Robot. Next day I completely forgot his name & he never came back to work.
Is that witchcraft or am I tripping. Still think about it this day trying remember his name.
As black person, I walk around and pray to God to give black community positive mindset to build our community instead of vandalising, littering and gangsterism, then blame the government that they have abandoned it, mmmh, knowing God can change this negative mindset, to self discipline, developing and keep the surroundings clean, so God help🙏🏾
Here’s an idea- you should imitate what the Whites do, if you want the same outcomes.
@@maureenmwenda4229 Black people are divided on a lot of issues: Religion, ethnicity, modernity vs traditionalism, class etc. They would have to find themselves along lines of similar ground - however, this will be tough as blacks are big on extended family affairs. There would be challenges.
God Bless you🎉
As a black person, you didn't have your parents enslaving other people and looting natives' land and minerals. You have no capital - financial, skills, social, - to build the black community you are envisioning
In God we trust 🙏
I did a solo trip from Johannesburg to Cape Town and stopped in Orania for lunch. I bought some of the best biltong I've ever had and met some incredibly friendly people. Driving through Hope Town, I was disappointed by how run-down it was. However, I knew I was getting closer to Orania when, all of a sudden, the road was tarred, and everywhere I looked, it was green and thriving. I wish all the best for the people of Orania
As a black South African I support this...Our politicians are against this because it shows how incompetent they are. Ke mo sotho
I understand. Apartheid created extreme poverty in the natives of Africa and 50 and more so years on you are still affected. This is real. Just because it's uncomfortable to say. Should it be blocked? Truth surely is the way forward and history NOT repeating itself. Seek genuine kindness, Seek genuine peace and respect. REMORSE from what their ancestors have done would be a good start.
With all due respect your embracing such says a lot about South Africa and the state that it's in. You speak against the very inheritance of your own people. Wow make it make sense and I'll listen contact me l will truly listen.
The problem is when the population grows, I think they must import more land from Dutch
@troyshepherd4521 he supports his extinction at the end of the day
@handsenMuvengwa yup they will do like they did us here in america,once they're numbers reach a certain number is when it will go bad for those in proximity
This shows that South Africa can be prosperous. It is about working hard, teamwork, no corruption, no politics interfering with production.
heaven
Exactly, thats what i thought too .
South Africa WAS all those things. And then.........
About no communism
How are they financed?
See fellow White people, diversity is not our strength. We thrive the best alone, theres a reason everyone wants to come to White Countries.
Their is also a reason certain groups dont want things as Orania to exist
NOT IN AFRICA !
you're preaching diversity is not our strenght and yet they are on someone elses continent. The bloofy irony. Well thing is, whether you like or not and despite how you feel about it, the existing world order is not going to change and you can't do anything about it. Peace unto you.
@@emmanuelekene5150oy vey. Shalom to you Rabbi
@@emmanuelekene5150 brown hands typed this
As a Kenyan I am learning from Orania on communal living and preserving religious beliefs, cultural values and morals. Kudos Orania.
As a black South African living in Limpopo...i say preserve your culture guys. I support it
Which culture are you referring to?
@@REBIRTHRADIOonlineafrikaaners
melvinpako2581
I wish they had done the same during colonialism. This is why South Africans get no respect from Africans. They destroy your culture but you allow them to preserve their in your country. They can go to Netherlands to preserve their culture.
Imagine someone coming to your country slaving your people and taking all your resources for generations. Imagine your children was deprived from education and told they were monkeys and separated between you and him. can you imagine what psychological impact this will have on these black children. Now try to imagine the one who done that still staying in your land and telling you theres some parts your kind of people are not allowed? THIS VIDEO IS LIKE THE DEVIL JUSTIFYING WHY HE IS WHAT HE IS AND MAKING GOD AS THE WRONG DOER,
@@REBIRTHRADIOonlineobviously the Afrikaans culture.
I went to visit Orania in June 2024 to see for myself. I did not find any racism or hate, instead I found the people to be friendly, hardworking and extremely proud and protective of their culture and language. Well done, Orania. I loved my time visiting and will be back.
Are you white, black or coloured? Did you expect to see racism or hate written on their foreheads? Of course they are going on with their lives because they have created a community minus those they truly hate.
you seem to be white? yes, if you are white and you visit South Africa's whites only town you will not experience racism. use your kop lara
What kind of racism were you expecting?
Of course didn't experience racism you white and it's built for you
Of course you won't find racism there because everyone there looks like them including you...
As a indian traveling all over south africa i see crime and violence im every place i visit so its good to see a community with no crime just hard working people
*As a European colonizer, I really love making fake accounts pretending to be Non-YT so that I can push my Racist European ideologies towards BLK/indigenous people.
Because of white people
Nothing worse than coconut supporting racism.
@@dgtheoneWhat bad have these people done to you? What the fuck is wrong with people trying to stick their noses into other's business?
Go back to india
As a black person, I would say learn from it..
Orania is not the past, it is the future.
Why don’t you join them? Why be a closet racist.
Best comment.
Oranua is not the future....LOL
Idiot @@BlueRain-fp4so
@@BlueRain-fp4so it's what we should be trying to move toward
this country is stuck in the past and broken
I am Lebanese South African. If Lebanese people try live all together in a small community we will just fight and moer each other 😁🫣 I commend these people for holding onto their traditions and culture. And I love all the comments in the comment section to see that South Africans are all so supportive of each other. We truly are a beautiful nation 🫶🙏🇿🇦
luckily you don't have to call your cousins to help in a fight cause they will already be there 😂😂 (just kidding)
@@wab123ismhahaha! It sounds like you know some lebs 🫣😄
@@user-ol4oi9oc4kwhat do lesbians have to do with this
Loved the documentary and see no issue peopling wanting to live with like minded individuals
It's there choice after all.
I don't think it's got anything to fo with race ❤
A lebanese bra using the word "moer". I love SA man. 😂
One interesting thing I have observed is that am not seeing any overweight young person, quite impressive.
Their economy is mostly based on physical labor like farming and construction.
How do you become overweight with all that work 😂😂😂
Great journalism, I didn't realise anywhere like this existed, or was allowed to exist, in South Africa. Maybe on our yearly visit to Cape Town from the UK, we could visit this area.. extremely well presented piece of work, well done.
Yes, every white community must be of colonized by non-whites.
Why would it not be allowed to exist?! You realize that homogenous white communities are not an inherent bad thing, right?
They are not hurting anyone Mos, I'm a black person from a black village, are we racist for not having white people there? There are lot of places in this country that economically exclude black people (because we don't afford to be there), so I find it interesting that white people are doing something for themselves by themselves. Nothing wrong with that. Let them live their lives in peace with their own ideals. Just because their opinion might be different doesn't make them racist as long as they don't hurt anyone in their journey. No fault no foul
Mfowethu, I agree. But why don't we all try to copy Orania in our own unique ways? And make our communities, scattered across Mzansi a better place for ourselves? We can do it...power to the people, and not promising politicians. Let's challenge ourselves.
Agreed@@michaelstorm5299
In our Black village we never said blacks only, whites are welcome to join us. . This one becomes racist when they say "no blacks" or Afrikaner only
The question is, are ‘white’ people “allowed” to live in your ‘black’ villiage?
Im not from Africa. But here in New Zealand we have native Maori and Pakeha or white. Some Maori live on their traditional Pa which is a village. We don't complain worry about that.
The way i see this community is similar. seams like its more a religious place than a racist place to me. Being a free people gives you options. If the land is owned by people who have conditions on sale/ lease agreements. So what????. Seams you think the same.
As a black woman I must say am proud of these folks no racist here , it's a group of people who are tired of noisy SA , crime, corruption, etc big up Orania Community
it's obvious black people are not thinkers. give it 20 they would form their own military it's similar case as the Palestinian occupied west bank.
You believe that sister.
Go watch the documentary of what happened in Tulsa in 1921?
@@joevoidable7549 Joe, while you recommend watching things, I would recommend you read some Thomas Sowell books.
@@DL_Burns I know a thing or two about him. You just recommend stuff without giving a reason.
There is a lot of similarities between Orania and Tulsa. However one was destroyed due to sheer hatred and Jealous. As a born and bred African I believed we been lie to about Black Americans. So you can bug off if you disagree with me trying to educate my african brothers and sister that Black Americans had something similar which was nicknamed The Black wall street.
We been told Black Americans are all sort of negative things. Which is a lie. So yh mate F off.
No black can live there but black women will still go there and eat something, hahaha
Probably the safest place in all of Africa.
safe for who? black people who just show up, don't bother anybody, & hang around? *it won't be safe for them - they'll be physically removed
Like Tulsa was a safe Haven for our Black American brethren.
Go watch what the documentary Tulsa 1921.
@@joevoidable7549 lol don't grasp at straws so desperately
@@PentaRaus I don't get you sir.
South africa is actually the most dangerous place in africa, most african countries are very safe. Its only where you see a huge number of european people that ends up turning dangerous.
They're not racist. Not all white saffas are Afrikaaner, some are English, Greek and Portuguese all white. Could they live there? probably not.
Orania is just like any normal european nation before migration hit.
One more Heaven for above average people to stay together in Peace
you mean before colonization?
@@ysjmsh I doubt many if any are Evil in this small town of under 4000 People
So ironic
@@ysjmsh It's not sword vs sword, if it was we know how it'd end. They are peacefully let through borders to cause chaos to civilians who are by law not allowed to defend themselves. You would not exist if the "colonizers" were not merciful.
They aren’t bothering anyone and they aren’t asking anyone for anything. They are purely trying to live a peaceful life and persevering their Afrikaans culture.
Afrikaners are extremely proud and resilient…
colonialist 'culture' should be in the dustbin of history
I agree but they need to do that in their own continent
I agree, but they need to build whites only town in their own continent
@@AndrewMorten11 They are on their own continent.
Really? Ignorance is bliss, sadly.
0:01 “frozen in time”, yet the infrastructure, institutions, and overall feel of the town is more advanced, sustainable, and progressive than literally the entire country that it has the burden of being within. Lmao
You clearly don't know anything about Africa.
@@xxcagedriotxx we’re talking about South Africa
@@xxcagedriotxx How do you understand the phrase "frozen in time"? I bet you can't answer.
@eugen-gelrod-filippov In this regard its referencing their mindset.
@@xxcagedriotxx And that phrase is just a opinion of the biased media. The town itself is head and shoulders above the rest of SA.
This documentary sheds light on the complex story of Orania - a town that sparks deep debates about race, culture, and self-governance in South Africa. 🌍🧐 Truly thought-provoking content! ✨
One point that wasn’t mentioned is that Orania has been developed entirely on private property. They bought a huge piece of land and developed it for their own use. I don’t see a problem with that.
I wouldn’t like to live in such an insular community because I enjoy meeting people from all walks of life.
We’re all different and that’s okay 😊
💯
Bought from who?
@@ScelohMkhize immaterial who it was bought from, it is private land that was paid for.
@@ScelohMkhize
In December 1990, about 40 Afrikaner families bought the dilapidated town of Orania for around R1.5 million from the Department of Water Affairs.
💯% Same. We're all different and that's cool. I'd feel like I'm in some kind of cult there I think. Lol
As a black South African man, I have to say I admire this, this is how life is meant to be lived, this is a community of likeminded individuals that choose to live their lives with intention. It really has nothing to do with race and more about preserving one’s cultural heritage. This is beautiful
That ideology is very limited my guy. They have pensions from apartheid and investment from apartheid profitiers. This is trying to re enforce black inferiority in your psyche brother.
.they are building with what they stole . Their way has no concept of justice for the poor, disadvantaged.
Hello Lerato
See THEMASTERSVOICE and see who some black nations really are
That's easy to say when you didn't leave trough apartheid the kids will grow up thinking black people are hooligans but you have a one sided mind
I dont think black people will cross their minds.. just do your own thing.. anobody cares@HAPPYHUNTER101
Wait till they flood Africa with white Europeans and they start branching out developing land.Thats when you will see how this really isn't a good thing
You can’t blame them. The rest of South Africa is like the Wild West. You can’t even take a walk down the street without feeling unsafe.
i can blame them, they had no right to be there in the first place on the land their ancestors stole from actual Africans
Interesting, really? is that a result from the apartheid state and still healing or??
@@BetterOffRedThanDead Their ancestors landed on empty land in the 1600's. Orania is also built on private property they legally purchased. They are not bothering anybody and simply want to continue living in peace and prosperity.
@@richlopez5896 'empty land' is a classic settler-colonial myth, in other words a bogus claim, especially when they don't consider Indigenous people human beings worthy of agency. whether or not they 'bought' the land is irrelevant due to the fact that it was stolen in the first place.
@@BetterOffRedThanDeadthe land was bought from the ANC government 😂 you actually have no idea what you're talking about and are talking nonsense. Go read up on the Great Trek and Mfecane, then we can have a conversation.
Here's another fun fact: Dinuzulu's Volunteers 😂 Afrikaners helped unite the Zulu after British broke them up. You have zero understanding about anything South African.
Whites are a small minority in SA, and the afrikaaners are the real indigenous people of South Africa, the area they settled had no one in it. They should protect themselves and their race/culture.
It's not that they are racist It's just that they are tired of racism so they went on their own way doing their own thing, so i respect them.
Who created racism in south Africa and the after effects?
@@Innsidelyfepeople.....
And now they are called racist😪 sad part is, people forget that in their own township, there is no whites, coloureds or even idians. How about the township just outside PE called Motherwell.... if your not black, you in danger.
Every one fights about land, but we tend to forget, we didnt create this earth, and when you die, you dont take it with. Everyone claims this country is his land, but its not. It stay behind as you die and your body becomes part of it. You as a human are the property of this land.
Yeah if they arent racist why dont they allow non-whites. If this isnt racist, what is?
@@Innsidelyfemostly Blacks sadly
The only place in SA where a woman can walk safely in the streets at night..
Any woman or?
So what? They want to preserve their own culture. I don't see anything wrong with it. Why is it everytime a White culture wants to do this, it is looked at as racist, yet if any non-White culture wants to do this... then everyone praises it? Many countries are fighting back against deluding their culture.
I don't care what race you are or what religion you do or don't follow. If you flee/move from one country to another, than I believe you should do your best to assimilate. It's possible, in fact easy to preserve your own while assimilating yourself into your new home. If you are stomping your way into your new country while dragging your former country's ways, or insisting that others accept YOUR ways then why leave?
No offence, and this is nothing against the people of this town, but isn't that technically what happened in South Africa? White people aren't native to the region at all and ended up replacing black people in some regions due to colonisation, which by definition was foreigners ruling over natives (extremely simplified, I know). Then, this town was established as what's a white ethnotown (I know that's not a word but it's not a state). Shouldn't they just assimilate with the native black groups instead? I do agree with your 2nd paragraph, by the way. I'm all for better controls on immigration and people assimilating, but at the same time it has to go both ways too. If black people have to assimilate into Europe and not create black-only areas, which isn't happening anyway contrary to what many believe (not saying you do), then white people must also assimilate. This has to go for all groups and I'm not trying to hate on this town but I think many people are missing this. All groups should have to assimilate and white people are suddenly exempt from that.
@@bestrafung2754 The native blacks of South Africa were displaced by different blacks that came from further north before, during, and after apartheid. But no one calls them out on it because "anti-racists" can only see skin color and don't understand the intricacies of ethnicity and culture.
@@Nipah.Auauau I'm very aware of that kind of thing in Africa happening and that never should've happened. Obviously anyone doing that should be called out and I'd say it's related to my point if anything. I'm very aware of ethnicity and culture too.
And they own it!
@@bestrafung2754 assimilation is genetic extinction
One thing I would like to know. How many of the people living in Orania watched the rugby world cup in 2019 and 2023 and were happy when we won?
honestly this is SO inspiring. if every community would build a future for themselves this way - becoming self sufficient, growing their own food, creating their own economy and education systems - focusing on a sense of togetherness and wholeness in their community - the world would be a better place! this has nothing to do with racism. it's all about being self sufficient - not outsourcing labor - not relying on the government or anyone else to help them - making them a stronger community because of it. i think it's really beautiful that they kept those donated monuments from the past. it's a beautiful thing to acknowledge the past - all of it, the good, the bad and remember not erase it - use those lessons to build up from. this is really eye opening and inspiring.
Very well said. This should be a model for other countries to look at instead of criticizing it. It obviously works. They share one culture. One language. There are reasons why other countries are starting to fail because none of the people have little in common when you put a bunch of different cultures together
😂😂😂 I think that's what they had all over Africa before the Dutch ppl his ancestors came and changed it
Europeans can even make Africa a paradise... that says it all.
I know , but most Africa governments are quite corrupt.
Some tried , some try, some were, some are .
Honest people, not just Europeans
@@S.M.Mer0 asia and europe are the only people capable of civ
Rich cities in Kenya are like Orania.
I understand their need to preserve their culture. I also respect the fact that they legally obtained that land and didn't infringe on anyone's rights or killed anyone for that land.
Actually, it was one of the last large scale forced removals in South Africa.
It is a settlement like Israelis are creating that is built under a mythology that is only protected by weapons and white supremacy order. This is stealing your historical lands. They came in and legalize their illegal settlements similar to Israel.
@@odelialutchman5085 No it was not. There was a court case in 2005 which Orania won.
There is nothing racist about preservation of your culture and living amongst your own people creating a prosperous peaceful society.
I'm Black, and this community looks so peaceful, man
then, go over there with them... lol
@@Reviewsnoozor why can't blacks create the same thing, prosper and have peaceful life.
@@Reviewsnooznot allowed, for good reason
@@npalmi88amen
@@npalmi88I reckon I and some other Black people in Europe can do the same here right?
Love them or hate them, Afrikaners are a truly resilient people.
Tat a fuck
why should one hate them... are you racist?
If this happened in America, if people were demanding a town for white Protestants only- with the stipulation that they have pure English blood, too- you would be utterly appalled. You would call them worse than the KKK.
As a coloured south African I don’t think Orania is racist at all, many townships does the same thing and Orania is successful in that
Agree. Its more of an Afrikaner culture, Christian Calvinist thing. So if I as a white Afrikaner is for example a non-believer, or has a criminal record, Orania won't allow me in.
Coloured in SA is different from the USA no?
this is a stupid comment. People
In townships were placed there they didn't choose those
Areas have your forgotten what the group areas act was for? Some of you think with your bums I swear
Can you please name a single Township in South Africa which is like Orania.
If they weren't racist they would have allowed other Afrikaans speaking people and done away with Verword statues
Not living in SA, from the outside it looks like an amazing community where you can raise children or enjoy the last years of your life.
Im from Johannesburg in South Africa, as an adult black male. I really understand them. Thanks for this upload. Lets hope our government improves
I am black and I really do understand the first guy you interviewed POV. They have nearly zero crimes and they are happy. They don't seem to bother anyone too so let them be. Racist or not they have created their little heaven.
Lol they can sure do that in Africa...
created their little heaven on the lands of black people they invaded
On who's land?
Guys u have 30 Years of Freedom, in that time korea made samsung and u made only fire tires on necks@@tunkunrunk
@@tunkunrunk without black people they're the criminals
Well, there are 10,000 black only towns in Africa, so.........
Almost like a certain group of people who invaded thought they could call the shots and the original people told them to get out. Historical Accuracy would show that invaders tried grabbing mass majority of land for their minority population... and tried to segregate in a foreign land. The nerve of these historically accurate atrocities by these invading people. Everything I said is historically accurate and is easily accessible info.
@@LastTrueElk Everyone has invaded another group, dont be so hypocritical.
@@Labyrinth6000 It's not hypocritical.. I'm speaking of the more recent happeninga in history related to this video. You're deflecting. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@LastTrueElk You're not familiar with the History of South Africa are you Mr Historically Accurate? Look up the Bantu Expansion and how what you would regard as the indigenous of South Africa wiped out the real indigenous (and not only in South Africa, in most of South, Eastern and Central Africa). Come back when you have an appreciation of the region and a historical reference that extends beyond the TV Age!
@@LastTrueElkWell I wouldn’t exactly call the natives “people”.
Honestly this is amazing,zero crime,zero corruption,people working together,building their own houses. Diversity is amazing,but is this. There is so much to take home from this. Leave Orania alone,let us focus on rebuilding and cleaning our diverse South Africa. And yes im black and i say thumbs up Orania!
I am an Irish woman, obviously white. Ireland is being destroyed by multiculturalism and uncontrolled mass immigration. I would love to live in a place like this, but I probably wouldn’t be accepted as I am neither an Afrikaaner nor a Calvinist. I suppose I could convert.
Best wishes to all Oranians.
Move to the USA,everybody else is .😊
@@joelmclamore1898Moving is not a solution. The USA is a country where you can go into a store, steal whatever you want and no one, including the police, will do anything. The USA, like the entire EU, is going in the wrong direction. Everyone needs to clean up their problems so that we can live in peace. Greetings from Poland, from a country that is not going in the wrong direction, it is running.
@@joelmclamore1898 Hmm ... -Ireland- USA is being destroyed by multiculturalism and uncontrolled mass immigration
@@joelmclamore1898 Same problem there
in AFRICA!!!! great choose, but you white went round the world and stole land but you don't like it for yourself
I am an indian and whenever i see white majority towns they are very clean, well planned, peaceful, calm and economy is always good like how they do it
Plenty of rubbish white towns around the world. I'm black, and I wouldn't go to some white areas in UK because they are slums and unsafe
that's why the blks are jealous.
Just a different culture, nothing magic. The UK is being turned on its head ATM. Currently there are demonstrations against mass immigration that has done so much social damage.
and then you came and you shit all over !
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They have an insane amount of autonomy. Their own currency, power grid, airport. Wild stuff. It's smart. They can't depend on the failing country they live in.
Also, if you want to run a racism litmus test in South Africa, you gotta ask people about their opinions on Rhodesia.
It’s very interesting to se that many Blacks support it and do admire this Community.
They don't, only responses that are supportive of this madness are allowed, otherwise, they are deleted.
Imagine if the USA shipped all its black back to Africa. There’d be no need for prisons
Those are called tokens and house slaves. They worship their own subjugation.
@@Dr_Smooches_Goodbaby what "madness". Does the Ingonyama Trust, which is land for Zulus only, represent a similar narrative?
@@gazg00 Zulus are Africans its their biological right to own land in their province, these people do not belong in SA yet they decide who goes in and out in our own land