Can We Beat Sonic Adventure 2 ONLY Using Sonic?
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- Can we beat Sonic Adventure 2 if we ONLY use Sonic and nobody else? This was a really fun one, except for the Eternal Engine jump which took 5 actual hours to pull off.
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Shadow: I’m the ultimate life form!
Sonic: Oh yeah? Can you bounce?
Shadow: …damn.
I know that Shadow can’t bounce but I still would like to know how much of the game is beatable as him only.
@@Shadow-hw3kn Just subtract all the levels that require the bounce
We could give him the gun at least
If shadow had any other ability that would make the run different I would totally do another run with him, but as he is now it would literally just be this exact same video, minus whichever levels required a super bounce. At least we're getting a new shadow game though so ill def be including him in some future videos!
@@EpicDuskkhas anyone hacked in the gun yet? Lol
Ironically for someone whose entire deal is absolute freedom he sure doesn't do well in prison stages
He can go fast, but cant outrun the law lol
@@EpicDuskk isn't that the point of city escape?
@@swipeslogjack_tgaming9472 its the irs this time
@@swipeslogjack_tgaming9472 well he DOES fail after the level.
Turns out not having freedom is his weakness.
When sonic is adventuring 2:
You're telling me a Sonic Adventured this 2?
Finally, now it's Sonic Adventure 2 for _realsies!_
Hell yeah!
Technically, Nathanial Bandy did it first but whatever
@@brovideogaming9447 Theres probably dozens of people who have done this. Doesnt mean we can't
@@EpicDuskk
I know, but I was mostly replying to Jomaster saying "Finally, now it's SA2 for realsies" and felt the need to comment. Probably should have @'d the person I was trying to refer to lol
Technically he didn't do it at all he had to phone a friend every time it got difficult, and the other dude who did dark story used other mods to make it easier. At least Epic did the entire thing themself@@brovideogaming9447
I gotta say, your persistence is hella impressive. Watching you do Eternal Engine for hours, trying to super-bounce in Dry Lagoon, it was all just cracked levels of perseverance. Amazing job.
Thank you! 😁
The magic hands were clearly gonna be a bigger mechanic at some point and the developers spent way too much time coding them to cut it. There's literally no use for them or anything u need them to obtain but they're just sort of there as a bonus.
They come in handy for 100% completing the game, but you're right they're not actually required. I think it would have been cool to see them used more, but I also think its neat having secret features like this that half the people dont even know about. Its like one of those playground rumors: "Did you know theres a secret power up that lets sonic turn enemies into balls? You have to find a secret room in the first level to get it!" Only this one is real lol.
@EpicDuskk I've found the magic hands make a couple of spots in Crazy Gadget and in Sonic's Canon Core section a little easier for me to do. Helps with the Copy Chaos enemies that'll shoot out their tendrils then fire at you.
That moment when you clip through the wall at the end of Eternal Engine, that was truly epic to experience. Fun stream last night as usual.
I'm so glad I actually got it on a live because theres no way people would believe "guys I swear I did it off stream!" lmao
Mad space being referenced as a trash can is brilliant 😂
More like "Drives me Mad Space" lol
@@EpicDuskklol I know that pain all to well. The years of playing this damn game I still get so mad at it. Still my favorite sonic game though lol 😂
@EpicDuskk it truly is remember the backward hints in mad space? Lol
@@kevinmorad2563 lol 😂😂 god don't even remind me
"No sonic adventure 3"
Sonic 06: *dissapears
06 doesnt have momentum...or speed for that matter (outside mach speed levels)
So I count it as a shit game that mu masochistic self still loves
4:47 I enjoyed the fun facts on this stage,I wouldn't have known because I go straight for the claws every time 😂
Me too, I never would have even thought to just try and not get them lol.
Oh this is 100% something that applies to Silent Hill 2. Fantastic game, but it’s been analyzed and mythologized to the point where it’s mystique is all but dried up
I've started using these videos to fall asleep to, I love the way you talk lol. Funny but chill and occasionally you slip into sounding just like someone I know ahaha
Epic video. Also the ending was epic, great idea saving it for the end. You have a skill for story telling
I'm glad you liked it! I really liked ending the video on it, I was afraid people might not make it that far, but im glad I was wrong!
LOST COLONY has a glitch where you can get into the room by going juuuust under/next to the platfrom (the red part), right hand side, by the six horizatal lines, use Lightspeed Attack at bomb to glitch past 18:43
20:43 death barriers are based on frames, if sonic is doing something that makes him have zero frames (aka in the middle of some attacks) he'll go right through the barrier
23:57 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
idea: collect all the rings in levels as _____ (voter poll?) I vote Amy, Chaos Zero, Sonic, or Knuckles
Okay mad space being included as part of the experience but it's the trash can 😅 love it lol
Even a game as amazing as this one has its bad levels lol.
It was great following your *Adventure* through all the stages as sonic in the live streams! It was probably my first time seeing your channel, and I'm glad about it. Keep up the great stuff and I know that you will beat Eternal Engine as sonic someday!
I think you should check out the end of this video 😉
Just realised after posting my comment oof, wish I could have stayed long enough. Ah well, it was great you were able to do it all on ur own, brings in some diversity.
lol its ok, I'm super happy we were able to do it, it made a nice ending to the video, because ending on cannon's core would have been lame.
Brother it’s time to stock up, Baja Blast is being sold in stores all the time this year! WE ARE SO BACK
I know! Im saving up the points to get the baja blast croc charms and other merch. Im so excited for it
Absolutely killed it, very nice job
Thank you!
Nice video! Really impressed with a lot of these you did, it's no small feat.
A few corrections:
-Prison Lane and Lost Colony are not clearable, but both of them can actually go very far into the level. Prison Lane is just one robot in the final room from being clearable, and Lost Colony it's actually possible to make it past the door after the elevator, but you quickly hit a wall at the final bomb door of the level, with no way past other than maybe some ridiculous TASbouncing.
-Iron Gate is actually clearable! It's probably the toughest possible "alt-character" clear in the game, and it was finally done in real time by AxlThunder sometime last year. th-cam.com/video/QPz7RloeKMs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jFMtrs1heAI1M10z
TH-cam really sucks because I tried so hard to find videos of those levels being possible, and that one never came up. It looks insanely difficult, I might have to attempt that next after I mentally recover from the eternal engine skip. Thank you for finding that video!
As for Prison Lane, I cannot find any video of anyone getting past that door that I got stuck on. I saw one video that said they got to the point at the end so I know what robot your talking about, but that video never explained how they got past that hallway. If you know how I'd love to hear it!
@@EpicDuskk I do! I'm one of the people who was working with bandy and charii for their video back in 2020 on that stage specifically. You have to do a pretty annoying superbounce off a very small ledge to sneak around the ceiling collision.
Here's a video of the whole route from back then. Didn't think anyone would need it since the level was uncompletable, but maybe I should make it public on the off-chance someone needs it, that way they can find it. th-cam.com/video/OrCjZ2zDGr4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=b28U18TotaLuCjQy
Good luck on doing the eternal engine ending if you come back to it! It's an insanely tough strat but I believe you can do it.
@@Zethoro YES thank you so much for this! I wonder why it was never included in bandy's video, thats such an interesting way to do it! Also I did end up completing Eternal Engine in this video :P I saved it for the end for dramatic effect lol.
I wish I would have known all this sooner tbh, would have loved to include both these tricks in the video, I might want to do an update video but man it would have been awesome to get it in this one. Although I'd probably still be attempting Iron Gate skips lol.
You get shot up by every pulley because they're all calibrated for Tails's weight in the mech. They're all calibrated to make Tails jump off at a specific height, so when playing as the much lighter Sonic you get launched a lot higher.
i love SA2 with my goddamn soul and this was just a beautiful video, love the effort and keep it up!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Ok iI was on the fence the entire video, but seeing you pull off that eternal engine jump meant i HAD to sub
Oh, I absolutely love that this challenge used the Magic Hands! I completely forgot about that power up
Yeah the magic hands are cool! People forget about it because you never need them, but I like using them alot
iron gate is doable as sonic, it's just stupidly difficult and requires you to clip out of bounds on top of the doors and quite a few sometimes-blind spindash jumps on to many pieces of invisible collision.
Prison lane up until the last checkpoint is doable as even shadow with some very fun-looking cylinder clippage, knuckles can complete the stage through many of the same methods shadow (and therefore sonic) can use, but has the advantage of being able to glide to skip the final enemy gauntlet.
Shoutouts to axlthunder for doing both of the above on video btw, the iron gate as sonic one is mind-blowing in particular.
Yeah I have been made aware of this. Definitely gotta try them and do an updated video eventually.
18:07
Roumari(Somari but Mario replaces Rouge)
Sonic swears in this game! In the background music of the knuckles key hunting level he's quoted as saying "You're damn right."
You can actually still beat king boo boom if you dont beat him in one circle,when the cutscene after the place gets lit up end you have to jump as fast as you can to were king boo boom is before he elevates to the walls,he will start to wiggle when your on top of him,so you have to calculate a summer assult directly on the wall to get him out.
If you're playing on pc version, the sa2 mod manager has some useful codes already implemented into it, including giving Shadow the bounce bracelet!
Yeah I know, but for the sake of these challenges the goal is to see if the character can beat the levels on their own. Giving shadow bounce bracelet and magic hands basically just turns him into a sonic skin.
@@EpicDuskk oh that's fair enough
You said it's going to be more than I think, so now my expectations are high!
I'm going to say that Sonic can do 80% of the levels.
This was sick. Im definitely here to stay.
Absolutely banger ending 🙏 doing it yourself as opposed to getting a speedrunner or similar to do it is extremely cool
Thank you! Now I know the struggle was worth it 😎
I wonder if anyone would try the bonus missions in SA2 as Sonic.
Maybe that'll be my next 100% run challenge. I dont do those as often as they take alot longer tho, but maybe one day!
Im pretty sure the thing with pumpkin hill forcing an emerald underground if you dont have the shovel claws, checks if your current character has the claws, and because sonic doesn’t have them, knuckle does, its forced underground.
However if you pick up the claws as sonic, it recognizes that sonic has the claws until you leave the level (and maybe restart the level but im not sure on that one)
Nah because even if we go back as knuckles it will always force an underground one, unless knuckles picks up the shovel claw
@@EpicDuskk
Oh
Another great video! How do you keep putting up these videos so fast? Do you feel burnt out and is there a way you plan things out?
I just really wanna be a full time TH-camr already so I wanna keep putting stuff out till it happens lol. I plan things out week by week, but I dont have a schedule or anything. I try to do one "Challenge" like this a week on monday, and try to have it edited that same week if I can. Thats about as close to planning it out as I get lol
@@EpicDuskk honestly I love that for you. Regardless of the schedule, you still put our quality videos in a short timeframe. You are definitely my favorite recent TH-camr so keep up the good work!
Thank you! I'm glad you like them and I really appreciate the kind words!
Noice, that was pretty clean
Theory: I'm pretty sure the Tails and Eggman pulleys launch Sonic because Tails and Eggman have stronger gravity, and so they have to get up with a very small boost for a jump. Meanwhile, Sonic (and everyone else) have *way* lower gravity, and so that "boost" is very very evident.
That makes sense, but I feel like when I use mech characters on speed stages the pullys work as normal, but i'm not 100% sure, maybe i should go back and check.
It'd have been neat to see Sonic fight the Egg Walker, oh well.
You didn't want the Rouge seggs scene enough to clear that Eternal Engine OoB trick.
Huge Sa2 fan love this!!
Sonic not getting his point combos in Weapons Bed must mean that the inactive GUN bots aren't actually enemies, but rather just stage props.
The reason Eggman can get combo points from them is because they count as numbered targets. The more targets, the more points Eggman gets for a combo, whereas Sonic's is directly tied to hitting enemies without touching the ground.
Makes sense, probably did that so you dont get too many points in weapons bed for not comboing and just spamming
@@EpicDuskk that, or maybe they needed to make them props because if they were enemies they would activate? Idk there's a lot of possibilities with this one.
Just interesting to note- I love this game more than any other so I just like finding little intricacies like that in it.
Having side characters is the reason why this and many other games failed.
They need to stop having drastically different gameplay styles.
This game would have been much better if they focused on Sonic gameplay primarily given their tight budget and Rushed development
Terrible take imo. I love the alternate playstyles and want them to come back.
'todays sponser raid shadow legends!" i never grabbed my mouse so quickly lmao i got jebaited
Lmaoooo get pranked
Believe me, I wish I could. More in Adventure 1 though.
Big the cat is a disgrace.
Amazing!! 0:06
I was hoping you found a work around for Prison Lane. Oh well, not on you.
Yeah that would have been cool. I tried alot, and we researched other similar challenges and nobody seems to have a way to do it. I found one video where the person said they made it all the way to the end, but they didnt show how they got past this door so I dont think they actually did it.
For doing superbounces, it is much more comfortable to me to use the single claw grip. Hold it normally on the left side but put your middle finger the A button and index finger on the B button (nintendo switch controller layout)
Yeah thats sort of what I started doing when my thumb started burning lol. It helped alot
@@EpicDuskk I learned to claw grip for botw whistle sprinting, it is like second nature at this point lol
“Sonic is the only fun character in Sonic Adventure 2”
Shadow: …
Edit: personally I enjoyed the Mech stages, but I’m not a big fan of the treasure hunting stages in this game. I’m not sure why I found the levels at least decent in Sonic Adventure, but here not so much.
The treasure hunting stages get alot more fun once you get better at them. Moving around quickly as knuckles and rouge is really fun, and when you get to the point where you read one hint and know where the emerald is, the levels become more about doing them quickly, vs trying to actually find them.
I will say though I would like to have seen more levels that used treasure characters, but for non hunting levels. I have alot of fun playing as them in sonic's levels
in Sonic Adventure 2 mod i use Character Select Mod - Allows you to play as any character by holding buttons during level loading and play as 2p vs characters to.
i do not need to do the super bounce to play tails level Eternal Engine. all i need to do is fall and the door to the big ring is opened as Sonic.
I think that defeats the purpose of this challenge if the mod changes the level to make it possible though. I didnt want to use any mods that would alter the levels in any way
This is super cool, amazinnnnggg!!!!
Thank You!
That was a amazing video!
Thank you!
not to mention that if you got sonic into The Blue Room, u wouldnt be able to see sonic, as he is blue. he would blend in💙
Truuuuue. Didn't think of that!
Mad space as the trash can
My guy 🤝
Prediction: Seven levels, all the bosses. _All of them._
(I'm only serious about the bosses. It's gonna be more than seven levels.)
We didn't get a Sonic Adventure 3 with Chao garden but we did get an epic ending to this challenge.
One day we'll get a chao garden 😭
Looks like Sonic went to the Mystery Goomba school of beating the death barrier
Hey I've done one of these before.The hardest one for me was cosmic wall, but it was also pretty fun. Took like 30 minutes.For eternal engine I just gave up lol
New sub btw I love SA2 :D
You just know chat was harassing him for calling the keys emeralds while he was streaming, and that’s why we have those scenes
25:03 waiting for the president’s secretary all-levels run
Went from Sonic Adventure 2 to Sonic’s Adventure 2
ignoring the jokes
i really do hope that sega revisits the tiny chao garden concept for a mobile app
imagine having your chao on a separate game from the actual sonic games
and future sonic games can connect to it to dump rings and stuff into it
then we would have the individual sonic games not having to implement entire chao gardens
and the chao garden app so we dont have to move chao between different games
bad thing though is potential microtransactions
and maybe cross game promos?
i dont want to have to buy some other sega game just to get a chao i want
Ill take anything chao related at this point. We are STARVING
Aw yeah, Sonic Almostventure 2
20:51 it is because of frames
Think if the death plane as a piece of paper that if you touch, you die. Sonic, with the bounce move, moves so fast that he is on one side of thr paper in 1 frame and in the next he phased through it
Yeah I think thats how the one death plane skip works too on Final Rush that speedrunners sometimes go for if they're feeling risky.
@@EpicDuskk back in like 2021 or something I saw a video explaining the final rush skip and that is what it said
I once tried to beat all sonic levels without upgrades, where you have to do CGSS without bounce bracelet. it was not fun
When I mentally recover from the eternal engine skip maybe ill try this lol
Did you try light dashing in that impossible section in prison lane? I was just curious
Yes, it didnt work. We have since found a way further into the level though! Theres an invisible wall we can super bounce off, Ill include a clip of it in tommorows video.
12:56
Ohno
Love this video! There was a surprising amount that I didn't know you could do here, though I wonder if we could take this further-
There is a pretty obscure trick you can do in (or rather out of) Cannon's Core that might make it possible with Sonic actually. I'm not entirely sure how it works but it seems like you do M2 of Cannon's Core, beat a kart level, and then you'll be summoned into Knuckles part automatically afterwards. I wasn't able to find any videos of people explaining this trick but it's performed here th-cam.com/video/rGmC_W5u39Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zLR9U0C8i1yRhjOh&t=16690
If Sonic could perform the Knuckles and Rouge clips, or somehow get through their sections, it might just be possible completely with Sonic?
Interesting! I'll have to look into that for sure.
I know from the randomizer mod that Knuckle's level is for sure beatable by a speed character. (I know the randomzier changes some things, but I'm confident it wouldn't matter)
For rouges part, i dont know if theres a way to the top of the pillar where the first time switch is. Maybe when falling into the level for the first time you could just hit it? Or possibly somewhere else you can clip out. Either way Ill have to look into these and see if its possible! Thank you for the comment!
2:39 sonadow moment
You sound like American NicoBBQ. Have a sub.
Thank you! 😁
this really is a sonic adventure 2...
Watch Out Your Gonna Crash! Ahh!
Should've correlated Sonic with a chili dog instead of a burger lolol
True tbh
@@EpicDuskk just make a quick edit to the video no one will know 🤫 *becomes next Mandela effect
Not only did they not give Shadow a Bounce Bracelet, they passed it up for fucking *Ancient Light*. ANCIENT LIGHT!!! How many of you even *knew about* Ancient Light??? Do you know how much better Sky Rail would be if they gave Shadow the Bracelet!?
Sonic really was on a adventure maby alittle two much
Any plans to do Can we Beat Sonic Adventure 2 with the other characters such as Shadow Amy Metal Sonic Knuckles Rouge Tikal Chaos 0 Mech Tails Mech Eggman Chao Walker Dark Chao Walker Mechless Eggman and Mechless Tails
Probably not every single character in the game, but def down to do a mech and treasure character run.
What about the Knuckles and Rouge portions of Cannon's Core? Can Sonic clear those parts?
The way the character modding works, Im unable to switch characters mid-level. I know from the randomizer mod that knuckle's portion is doable, rouges might be as well but to my knowledge theres no mod that lets me put him in halfway through the level
Isn't there a glitch using the rouge car level that puts you at the knux part of the final level?
Yes I didnt know that at the time. Might be something to try and maybe do an update video for!
@EpicDuskk it would be neat to see. Looking forward to that update.
I love the speed and hunting levels, I don't like the mech levels.
I do 😎 I like shooting for high scores.
Dusk: Which characyer should we use for the next vid?
Me: Rouge
"Video ends"
Top recomendation: I beat sonic adventure 2 with only Rouge
I thought that timing was just waaay too comedic😂
Rouge is my favorite character, of course we usin her lol. I've done tails as well, and am working on the Mechless Eggman run.
@@EpicDuskk yeah ive finished both vids now,
ive always loved Rouge since I watched sonic x on youtube back when I was like 4 years old so what can I say except you have great taste
With this many hearts i could make a fortune on the black market ;>
@@Roman_the_black_cat lol I use the heart feature alot. Its like a "I read your comment" acknowledgement. You get a heart, you get a heart, everyone gets a heart!
Was literally about to click off with the pump fake Advert, stayed watching tho 😅
If im gonna sell out it aint for raid shadow legends lmao. Taco Bell however and I might start doing ads 🤔
How did you get glasses on your Chao?
Chao world extended mod
Pretty sure Nathaniel Bandy and Charii5 tried this challenge already
And now I have joined the ranks of TH-camrs who have attempted this challenge
Try doing Amy if she can be played as like Metal Sonic
I have a video of Amy using her new tricks mod! I probably wont do just a vanilla run with her since she's pretty similar to sonic, minus a few abilities.
Now, can you beat every stage with Knuckles?
I will probably do a Treasure Hunter and a Mech version of this video because it did so well! Gonna let this one run its course first. Got some other challenges coming out soon in the meantime!
Still need to finish Chao Karate with Sonic
Damn you right, gotta do that next
Title doesn't say "Battle" and Chao Karate is not present in the original game.
@@SheepStar8 This was battle, and im pretty sure they were making a joke lol
@@EpicDuskk I know I was making my own joke. Guess it didn't land
@@EpicDuskk bold of you to think I'm not expecting a video of Sonic kicking a baby chao in the face
I was just talking about how much I dislike mad space lol
Huh I didn't know you had a YT channel
Now you do! I been really active on it lately. Welcome in! You coming from TikTok or Twitch?
12:56 😂😂😂
Nathaniel Bandy did this exact video 3 years ago
Yeah plenty of people have done it. We need more people making Sonic Adventure videos, then SEGA might actually stop being cowards and make a new Adventure game
I mean, it's his adventure isn't it?
The real adventure is the friends we make along the way
Dude… how on earth are you able to use Magic Hands so quickly?!
Just let go of the control stick and tap Y + B quickly. Takes a lil practice to get it quickly, been playing this game a long time 😉
@@EpicDuskk I'll try it when I LP this game, maybe. Could be effective, could be hilarious.
@@bubbles46853-ep9if You can magic hand the jet planes on metal harbor too if you really wanna be silly, but the timing is hard. I have a TH-cam short of me doing it
@@EpicDuskk you do? I'm having some trouble finding it.
@@bubbles46853-ep9if oh shoot you're right. I upload to Tiktok as well and I guess I forgot to put that one on YT. Ill upload it when i get home from work tonight
Nathiel Bandy did the same thing like you 😎
how do you switch characters mid level
I don't, the character swap mod only lets you pick one. To use a different character I leave the level and re-load it with the new character.
dang
@@EpicDuskk
I was in the stream
I remember you!
How can you save state in SA2 PC version?!
I didnt use save states during this challenge, but Sora's Debug mod lets you use save states!
@@EpicDuskk link to the mod please!
@@yousefslimani99 gamebanana.com/mods/349067
My guy, tell me where i can get burgers and also baja blast i wanna go there
They selling Baja blast in stores now, so probably any convince store that also sells burgers. 🤔
@EpicDuskk hard mode: can i also have typhoon back i loved typhoon
@@TKize777 you're so fucking real for that. God I miss typhoon 😭
@@EpicDuskk it was the first red flag for me that votes dont matter lmao
@@TKize777 lmfao democracy was killed by mtn dew. 😂
now do all 180 emblems lol
I totally would lol. Ive 100% completed it dozens of times
Didn’t Nathaniel bandy try this like 4 years ago?
Yup. Pretty sure every possible challenge has been done at this point tbh, but doesn't mean we cant try em for ourselves!
My guess that It's all but 5 levels.
I shant spoil it, but you're super close
@@EpicDuskk Spoilers to those that hadn't watched it fully.
Now that I've fully watched It, it really just depends on if you count Cannon's Core. I get that while sonic technically finishes the level and the game count's it as a sonic stage, the stage Itself contains all the characters. So, I can understand if some people consider Cannon's Core to be impossible. I can't believe that, I was so close!
Yeah cannons core was a weird one. Glad you enjoyed the video! @@CyberWolfDigital
i swear a guy did this a while ago i think his last name was bandy but im stumped
Nathaniel Bandy is who you're thinking of. I'm sure several people have done this challenge before as well. But none of them spent 7 hours trying to do one jump so I hope that makes my video unique enough lmao.
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4:28p.m. 4/19/2024