And yes, I know certain sets inside Mad Space CANNNN be done with certain characters. But editing Mad Space is shockingly hard. It's not like any other stage. And as such we deemed it best to just lock the character type
@@EpicDuskk shadow didn't die he removed inhibitors which caused him to use too much of his stamina he also didn't die either he was alive in heroes and other games after this he never died just got amnesia.
34:07 The game actually foreshadows this during the fight. Both in dialogue and mechanically. Shadow is destroying his body maintaining the super state (Sonic phrases it as Shadow “disappearing”). He also has progressively fewer rings when you switch to him later in the fight, a trait not shared with Sonic.
Is it pronounced Gemerl or Jemerl? I legitimately have no idea and really wanna know. Has it ever been stated? AFAIK, there's no voice acting in the Sonic Advance games aside from action lines in gameplay.
Wow eggman’s powerscaling is all over the place in this video at some point hes saving sonic from tails and in other points he gets terrified by knuckles breaking the master emerald and just goes home to watch tv
Also, “Sword Shadow” is Sir Lancelot. I’d STRONGLY recommend at least watching Sonic and The Black Knight’s cutscenes, it’s Sonic’s characterization at its peak.
25:12 That's Mecha Sonic Mark I, from Sonic 2 (although, his appeareance is taken from his cameo in SA1, where he was in a tube in the same room as Metal Sonic).
5:05 Maybe the mod has "type-based" shortcuts instead of character-based; so yeah, for a Speed Type character (Sonic, Shadow, Amy, Metal Sonic) they had to remove the door because Metal Sonic can't Spin Dash towards those robots. 7:17 Gemerl from Sonic Advance 3.
21:25 The somersault was first introduced in SA2 as a way to get past areas through gaps underneath walls. In games where he did this beforehand, he used to automatically go into a spin dash and be guided through the area in question without being controlled.
Sonic Adventure 2 get demtia pills since everyone forgets who they are. Also Im Miles prower but everyone calls me Tails the Ultimate Life form. Nice to meet ya!
So, to anyone who plans to play this SA2Rando mod, here's abit of advice: If you get a stage you don't want to play, or somehow the mod softlocks you by somehow not modifying a stage to be beatable by the character it gives you, you can press L+R+Y on your controller to skip the stage by auto-completing it. The one who made this mod put that in as a failsafe incase he overlooked something to modify to make a stage always beatable, that made it unbeatable by a type of character it gives you. As far as I know, this failsafe code is not documented in what the mod gives you, so not every player of SA2Rando knows this stage skip code even exists
1:03 Super Shadow being slow is actually an intentional detail, as Super Sonic still moves fast in normal levels. The reason Super Shadow was made slower is that his Rocket Skates are what allow him to match Sonic when in his normal form, but more importantly, it is because the version of Super Shadow in SA2 is an incomplete form, as Shadow felt conflicted. He hated what he did and felt immense negative emotions, but he tried to harness the hope Maria had through that hope, chaos energy in his veins, and his determination to keep his promise and stop the Biolizard the Emeralds were able to use that temporarily give him a positive super form. However, his inner conflict is shown through his slower speed and the color of the form as it is white gold which is the lightest form of gold one can see, showing how unstable the form truly is; yes, Shadow transformed in SA2 knowing what fate would befall him but he had to in order to make things right for Maria. The world didn't need know that he helped save it he just had to know that he did, that he kept his promise. That is also why his final line is "Maria, this, this is what you wanted, right?" Yes, Sonic Team actually thought all of that through, and they still do think a lot of ideas through, but deadlines tend to get in the way. Heck, in Shadow 05's final story, they bring it full circle by having his Super form being a darker gold and faster than SA2, showing that the video of Gerald's last sane words to him with Maria finally made him be able to forgive himself and the Gerald for what happened in SA2. Edit: Just letting you know who these characters are: 7:17 that's Gemerl from Sonic Advanced 3 he is basically Eggman's Gizode that he built off of data he collected from Emerl in Sonic Battle. 9:15 That is Shade the Echidna from Sonic Chronicles, the Sonic RPG that Izuka doesn't like to acknowledge because Sonic Team didn't make it even though it's still canon.
That was a very passionate write up, but Super Sonic goes just as slow in regular levels. They go the same speed. They just were only intended to be used for that one fight, so their slow speed is never really apparent since the final boss fight area is so small.
17:42 Dark Chao is coded to do increased damage to offset his slow speed, couple that with Eggman's AI letting him spam all of the special attacks and you have a VERY lopsided fight.
5:16 Amy casually explaining the power of the 7 chaos emeralds for sonic to yell at her that she's an ugly prototype, followed by Amy saying to keep shaking until the nuts fall off had me laughing to tears lmao! Funniest video I've seen in quite some time 🤣
Truth is that Sonic talks first in original so it is Amy who called Sonic an ugly prototype in the randomizer Original Sonic: Amy? Random!Sonic: (Rouge voice) Legend has it when- Original Amy: Shhh! Keep your voice down! Random!Amy: (Shadow voice) GET OUT YOU UGLY PROTOTYPE!
"Why does Shadow die" The loss of Shadow's ring was a hint, but its hard to say if it was intended in SA2. Sonic X more fully established the idea that Shadow's rings greatly limit his power so he doesn't burn out, but again, it wasn't confirmed in the games until Sonic 06 officially showed Shadow taking off his rings to receive a huge power boost. Professor Gerald has this as one of his dialogue options in Sonic X Shadow Generations, settling the issue once and for all. Shadow is far stronger than Sonic normally. However, if he exerts too much power he will burn out. The rings alleviate that problem and prevent him from exerting too much energy so he doesn't burn out. The ending of SA2 implies, but doesn't confirm, that Shadow removed his rings so that they had enough power to use one final Chaos Control to restore the Ark back into orbit. Sonic X explicitly depicts him removing his rings. Another aspect: Shadow probably wanted to die anyway to reunite with Maria. He didn't have much of a motivation to live beyond that point anyway. Meeting Rouge and Omega later gives him more of a reason to keep living after he comes back.
25:08 Mecha Sonic mark 3. It made its only appearance in SA1 through a cameo. Mecha Sonic mark 2 is the robot Sonic from Sonic 3, and mark 1 is the robot Sonic from Sonic 2.
When vs Amy in "Shadow Battle", you're playing as Gemerl from "Sonic Battle" game, actually. (Time: 7:10) And when you trek through the stage insisted for Tails, that's Shade the Echidna from "Sonic Chronicle: Dark Brotherhood", the comic-cancelled game. (Time: 10:00) That's a kart, sir. (Time: 11:00) Espio the Chameleon (Time: 12:20) Yes, that's Mephiles the Dark from "Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)" game. (Time: 21:08) That's Mecha Sonic MK-1 from "Sonic the Hedgehog 2" game (Time: 25:10)
“There’s no time for jokes! Eggman’s ready to fire that weapon again!” “Ah shit Shadow, you right, my bad…” “No time for games!” “Alright, Shadow I get it I’m serious…” “No time to waste…” “OKAY WE GET IT, THERE’S NO TIME TO WASTE!” God… if I was you I would have quoted Hades in Hercules… *I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GOT IT!* I get the concept…
Egg man only crime this mod is he committing identity fraud every five minutes first he dressed as sonic to get him arrested than he pretended to be Rouge than shadow..he was a true villain
btw, the reason the randomized Chao are so powerful is because, they are designed to be strong enough you can clear any Chao races and Karate without investment of time to train your Chao.
If you look in my playlists tab under previous live streams I actually did do the 100% run! I just havent made it into a video yet because its like 40 hours of video to edit lol.
I like the zelda ones too! They're different vibes though. Zelda ones are more of a challenge run, This is more of a silly fun playthrough. The levels dont get much harder with different characters.
And yes, I know certain sets inside Mad Space CANNNN be done with certain characters. But editing Mad Space is shockingly hard. It's not like any other stage. And as such we deemed it best to just lock the character type
Oh shit the mod creator themselves?! Very epic! I love this randomizer so much thank you for making it!
@@EpicDuskk shadow didn't die he removed inhibitors which caused him to use too much of his stamina he also didn't die either he was alive in heroes and other games after this he never died just got amnesia.
@@jamesday9104 context?
@@jamesday9104 The inhibitor rings being taken off was a Sonic X thing, you never see them get removed in any official version of the original game.
@@CinderSnowflake it's also a thing in 06 but I assume you're referring exclusively to SA2's story
I love how half of this randomizer is "My name is- NO YOU'RE NOT"
Its so funny when they say that lmao.
Everybody but Tails got Tails' voice line
*ahem* 24:42 @@M1kyo
@@seancrosby6837 Dont worry I saw it but half of the video he had everyone's but his voiceline and have a good day!
@@M1kyo lol, I figured, some people who comment don't finish the video, I'm guilty of it as well. You have a good day too
21:08
Uh its Mephiles in original 06 while he is named Memphis Tennessee in the fandub
15:33 imagine nearly falling to your death in a pool of lava and your last words are just:
*S O U N D T E S T*
2:25 Sonic: Not enough free space to save
Shadow: ??
Sonic: my name is miles prower, but everyone calls me tails.
You don't have enough memory in the memory card
34:07 The game actually foreshadows this during the fight. Both in dialogue and mechanically.
Shadow is destroying his body maintaining the super state (Sonic phrases it as Shadow “disappearing”). He also has progressively fewer rings when you switch to him later in the fight, a trait not shared with Sonic.
Ik im 3 months late but thanks for this bit of lore, never found a true reason for that until now.
7:15 That's Gemerl (also, he's not from the comics, he's from Sonic Advance 3).
I believe the other character is Shade, who's from one of the spinoffs.
@@PriffyViole Yeah, I already pointed that out in another comment. Scroll down.
@@PriffyViole yeah, from chronicles
Is it pronounced Gemerl or Jemerl? I legitimately have no idea and really wanna know. Has it ever been stated? AFAIK, there's no voice acting in the Sonic Advance games aside from action lines in gameplay.
@@CinderSnowflake How do you pronounce the word "Gem"?
4:01
Obligatory: "I miss my wife Tails."
9:56 That's Shade the Echidna (also, she's not from the comics, she's from Sonic Chronicles).
Shadow roaring and cursing is.....something we need in the game!
26:32 Duskk: "I don't know which one to shoot!"
Sonic: "Why do you have to shoot either of them?!"
Fun fact, the randomized Chao are named after Sonic speedrunners and modders!
Love to see someone know that little piece of trivia
1:43 Dogs when they smell something good
Wow eggman’s powerscaling is all over the place in this video at some point hes saving sonic from tails and in other points he gets terrified by knuckles breaking the master emerald and just goes home to watch tv
My favorite is when he's giggling like Amy lmfao
Eggman leaning out and saying to Knuckles "My name is Rouge The Bat." and then flying away is hilarious
1:50
Shadow: Pretends that Sonic is with him
Eggman cosplaying as Sonic is golden 😂
To defeat one's enemy, you must become the enemy 🤣
It's More Scary Than Sonic.exe
@@EpicDuskkWhat The Heck Is A Baja Blast?
@@Matthew_Cashewa type of energy drink
Also, “Sword Shadow” is Sir Lancelot. I’d STRONGLY recommend at least watching Sonic and The Black Knight’s cutscenes, it’s Sonic’s characterization at its peak.
I have played that game actually! A long time ago when i was a kid. I liked the story book vibe
25:12 That's Mecha Sonic Mark I, from Sonic 2 (although, his appeareance is taken from his cameo in SA1, where he was in a tube in the same room as Metal Sonic).
Thank you for dropping the knowledge!
*Mark 3
the sonic 2 one is its own separate robot
It's rough to see the cast of sa2 suffering from severe delusions, but time will do that to you
9:51
Shade, she is from Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood.
An official Sonic RPG. She is also based on a comic exclusive character, Julie-su.
This mod is 85% identity theft and 15% roaring
7:16 F-From the comics?
The COMICS?!
…
I think I just aged 19 years in 5 seconds.
Lmao i don know shit i just assume if its not from sonic adventure its from the comics
@@EpicDuskk it's from advance 3
I had the same reaction at 9:50 to Shade from Sonic Chronicles
@@hedgehogsonic11i don't blame him for not knowing Shade...she is as obscure as Ray was before Mania Plus
aka no one rememberes her
???: Well done, Mister President.
Amy: YEAH!!!
5:29 got me laughing sooo hard lol
I had to watch it again to see what you were talking about, and its still funny lmao
Amy really wants to shake sonics nuts off lollll
5:05
Maybe the mod has "type-based" shortcuts instead of character-based; so yeah, for a Speed Type character (Sonic, Shadow, Amy, Metal Sonic) they had to remove the door because Metal Sonic can't Spin Dash towards those robots.
7:17
Gemerl from Sonic Advance 3.
21:25 The somersault was first introduced in SA2 as a way to get past areas through gaps underneath walls.
In games where he did this beforehand, he used to automatically go into a spin dash and be guided through the area in question without being controlled.
31:19 The odds of this exact line appearing again in the same Egg Fish Chamber is no coincidence
I would have freaked if it happened again during our 2nd randomizer stream
21:31
Shadow is impressed
Boy Robotnik had a real identity crisis in this video haha. Also 3:12 and 33:35 Frikkin killed me 🤣🤣🤣
The random censors are so hilarious 😂
1:38
Shadow grinding his nose in Super Form
1:39 me when i smell some fresh pie
23:33
"im my original character, Bleggman!"
Eggman is having a identity crisis.
27:57 shadow coming into frame bellowing like that absolutely killed me
Immediately followed up by the censored swearing too 😂
Sonic Adventure 2 get demtia pills since everyone forgets who they are.
Also Im Miles prower but everyone calls me Tails the Ultimate Life form. Nice to meet ya!
This video got me dying in multiple parts 💀💀
It was such a silly run, we gotta do it again soon, but 100% the whole game lol
So, to anyone who plans to play this SA2Rando mod, here's abit of advice: If you get a stage you don't want to play, or somehow the mod softlocks you by somehow not modifying a stage to be beatable by the character it gives you, you can press L+R+Y on your controller to skip the stage by auto-completing it. The one who made this mod put that in as a failsafe incase he overlooked something to modify to make a stage always beatable, that made it unbeatable by a type of character it gives you. As far as I know, this failsafe code is not documented in what the mod gives you, so not every player of SA2Rando knows this stage skip code even exists
@@zigazav1 thats super useful thank you for sharing!
That final cutscene is soooo good with swearing
22:58
Update the database
Robotnik really needs to get some medical help for his Dissociative Identity Disorder, it's getting out of control.
1:03 Super Shadow being slow is actually an intentional detail, as Super Sonic still moves fast in normal levels. The reason Super Shadow was made slower is that his Rocket Skates are what allow him to match Sonic when in his normal form, but more importantly, it is because the version of Super Shadow in SA2 is an incomplete form, as Shadow felt conflicted. He hated what he did and felt immense negative emotions, but he tried to harness the hope Maria had through that hope, chaos energy in his veins, and his determination to keep his promise and stop the Biolizard the Emeralds were able to use that temporarily give him a positive super form. However, his inner conflict is shown through his slower speed and the color of the form as it is white gold which is the lightest form of gold one can see, showing how unstable the form truly is; yes, Shadow transformed in SA2 knowing what fate would befall him but he had to in order to make things right for Maria. The world didn't need know that he helped save it he just had to know that he did, that he kept his promise. That is also why his final line is "Maria, this, this is what you wanted, right?"
Yes, Sonic Team actually thought all of that through, and they still do think a lot of ideas through, but deadlines tend to get in the way.
Heck, in Shadow 05's final story, they bring it full circle by having his Super form being a darker gold and faster than SA2, showing that the video of Gerald's last sane words to him with Maria finally made him be able to forgive himself and the Gerald for what happened in SA2.
Edit: Just letting you know who these characters are:
7:17 that's Gemerl from Sonic Advanced 3 he is basically Eggman's Gizode that he built off of data he collected from Emerl in Sonic Battle.
9:15 That is Shade the Echidna from Sonic Chronicles, the Sonic RPG that Izuka doesn't like to acknowledge because Sonic Team didn't make it even though it's still canon.
That was a very passionate write up, but Super Sonic goes just as slow in regular levels. They go the same speed. They just were only intended to be used for that one fight, so their slow speed is never really apparent since the final boss fight area is so small.
20:50
“Live tweeting” “destruction” “cocky”
Sounds familiar.
27:38 I’m never gonna see this cutscene the same again after that Tails roar.
17:42 Dark Chao is coded to do increased damage to offset his slow speed, couple that with Eggman's AI letting him spam all of the special attacks and you have a VERY lopsided fight.
5:16 Amy casually explaining the power of the 7 chaos emeralds for sonic to yell at her that she's an ugly prototype, followed by Amy saying to keep shaking until the nuts fall off had me laughing to tears lmao! Funniest video I've seen in quite some time 🤣
Truth is that Sonic talks first in original so it is Amy who called Sonic an ugly prototype in the randomizer
Original Sonic: Amy?
Random!Sonic: (Rouge voice) Legend has it when-
Original Amy: Shhh! Keep your voice down!
Random!Amy: (Shadow voice) GET OUT YOU UGLY PROTOTYPE!
9:48 That is Shade the Echidna from that rpg Sonic game - Sonic Chronicles: the Dark Brotherhood. It's a Nintendo DS game.
Shadow using charm ray is cursed
Shadow: "Charmy, you're so cool!"
Great vid! Oh hang on the database on my egg fish chamber needs to be updated brb!
10:00 Thats Shade from Sonic Chronicles
8:25 zync kinda looks like bacon 🥓 😂
7:00
Wario thinks he is Rouge thinking he is stealing Chaos Emeralds
15:56
Watch out! Youre gonna crash! AH!
rouge just wants jewels
17:04 "Eggman's ready to fire that weapon again!" (As Eggman holds a gun)
"Should we get going?"
Please make more of these. This was funny as hell and I was laughing a lot 🤣🤣🤣
The Eggman dressed as Sonic is a reference to a very old Sonic animation in the 90's where eggman dresses up as Sonic to try to frame him for crimes.
Shadow: what? I'm not good enough for you!?
*casually dies* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
3 seconds in and the video already surprised me. I wasn't expecting Captain Falcon!
The sonic eggmann killed me 😭 2:00
"Why does Shadow die"
The loss of Shadow's ring was a hint, but its hard to say if it was intended in SA2.
Sonic X more fully established the idea that Shadow's rings greatly limit his power so he doesn't burn out, but again, it wasn't confirmed in the games until Sonic 06 officially showed Shadow taking off his rings to receive a huge power boost.
Professor Gerald has this as one of his dialogue options in Sonic X Shadow Generations, settling the issue once and for all.
Shadow is far stronger than Sonic normally. However, if he exerts too much power he will burn out. The rings alleviate that problem and prevent him from exerting too much energy so he doesn't burn out.
The ending of SA2 implies, but doesn't confirm, that Shadow removed his rings so that they had enough power to use one final Chaos Control to restore the Ark back into orbit. Sonic X explicitly depicts him removing his rings.
Another aspect: Shadow probably wanted to die anyway to reunite with Maria. He didn't have much of a motivation to live beyond that point anyway. Meeting Rouge and Omega later gives him more of a reason to keep living after he comes back.
7:09
That robot is Gemrel from Sonic Advance 3. Originally released on the GBA. :)
okey bro. everything about this mod was funny, accept for c.falcon that was sick!
It's been a long time since I laughed so much on a video thank you so much 👍
I'm glad you found it funny! I hope all my sonic adventure 2 videos can keep you laughing!
@@EpicDuskk I will look at them all for sure!
15:32 THE CARTOON SLIP SOUND EFFECT IS AMAZING
my thoughts on entering this video: is that? [yep] 😎👍
In this Episode Dr. Eggman has an identity crisis.
The sad music from Pumpkin Hill is the music from the "Goodbye Chao" scenario in the Chao World GBA.
25:08
Mecha Sonic mark 3.
It made its only appearance in SA1 through a cameo.
Mecha Sonic mark 2 is the robot Sonic from Sonic 3, and mark 1 is the robot Sonic from Sonic 2.
It actually uses some Showa Mechagodzilla textures.
I almost spat out my juice from laughing so much! 😂
about the intro:
Nah nothing abnormal there, just a big a* captain falcon cruisn' down a highway
When vs Amy in "Shadow Battle", you're playing as Gemerl from "Sonic Battle" game, actually. (Time: 7:10)
And when you trek through the stage insisted for Tails, that's Shade the Echidna from "Sonic Chronicle: Dark Brotherhood", the comic-cancelled game. (Time: 10:00)
That's a kart, sir. (Time: 11:00)
Espio the Chameleon (Time: 12:20)
Yes, that's Mephiles the Dark from "Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)" game. (Time: 21:08)
That's Mecha Sonic MK-1 from "Sonic the Hedgehog 2" game (Time: 25:10)
“There’s no time for jokes! Eggman’s ready to fire that weapon again!”
“Ah shit Shadow, you right, my bad…”
“No time for games!”
“Alright, Shadow I get it I’m serious…”
“No time to waste…”
“OKAY WE GET IT, THERE’S NO TIME TO WASTE!”
God… if I was you I would have quoted Hades in Hercules…
*I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GOT IT!*
I get the concept…
So, I went back and played the game myself, and yes, big was always there in mission street.
9:56 i see they added ken pender's echidnas to the mod top kek
5:28 "Keep shaking it until the nuts fall!"
Egg man only crime this mod is he committing identity fraud every five minutes first he dressed as sonic to get him arrested than he pretended to be Rouge than shadow..he was a true villain
I laughed so hard I spat drink on my screen, 10/10 video.
"From the comics"
The first was G-mel from Advance 3, the second was Shade from Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.
"From the comics" is just code for "I have no idea who this is"
I only play the adventure games really, Im not up to date on sonic lore lol.
I love the part where memphis Tennessee beats up the robot
btw, the reason the randomized Chao are so powerful is because, they are designed to be strong enough you can clear any Chao races and Karate without investment of time to train your Chao.
I am subscribing to see the 100% randomized run
If you look in my playlists tab under previous live streams I actually did do the 100% run! I just havent made it into a video yet because its like 40 hours of video to edit lol.
17:15)
"I'm outta here!"
(EXPLODES)
25:09 That is Mecha Sonic Mk. III
He can be seen in a tube in Eggman's base in SA1.
My name is Miles Prower, but everyone calls me Tails.
the chao garden brought flashbacks of Brassmo. you will be missed 🥲
The Chao tv is killin me
1:39 I watched too much SpongeBob now I can ride with my nose
3:15 Both makes sense and is hilarious
This looks like so much fun as opposed to the Zelda ones which are just pain at max settings
I like the zelda ones too! They're different vibes though. Zelda ones are more of a challenge run, This is more of a silly fun playthrough. The levels dont get much harder with different characters.
9:54 just extremely funny to me you said that considering what happened to chronicles
Sonic Adventure 2 but everyone has severe identity problems
The only other person I’ve heard make that “Do you know where your children are?” joke is my stepdad and he’s in his 60’s. Lol
Eggman has multiple personality disorder 🤣
3:16 EGGMAN YOU CANT SAY THAT!!!
Your stream was hilarious
glad you enjoyed it gamer
CallieMacN Is Crying Over Amy Getting Absolutely Destroyed By Gemerl
5:20
Actually it was Amy who called Sonic that
5:40 Ah, YOU PICK *WAAARRIIIOO*
So many “comic” characters 😬😂
Enzio?!! Come on man at least try 😂