it just so happens that youtube recommended led me here! that camera in prison lane requires a very specific way of approach which is hard to tell from that video. hard to explain over just text but how i get pushed in is with a spherical hitbox, and since objects get collision priority over the level itself, any round-ish shape hitboxes near or up against a wall in a specific way can probably allow for some slide clipping trickery. controller angle is EXTREMELY important when doing any of that stuff. i actually have significantly improved my methods since that old video. i have an m4 run as knuckles which does them, and has a controller input view as well, but rouge glides, jumps, and climbs the same and thus can do all of it too(search: prison lane m4 knuckles). the method in that video should be easier than what i did there. i'll be sure to make a rouge run, commentating over it cosmic wall is beatable as rouge. again, the runs done so far are as knuckles, but rouge can do it the same way(search: cosmic wall m4 knuckles). i'll have a rouge run ready for that at some point as well, also commentated i got a lot i'm working on right now so it could be a bit before these are ready. but they are coming
@@birbinhand8634 You simply just push forward when you are on the tube. You don't move against where the tube is taking you, you are going against the game that way.
Another plus to using Rouge is she has a car, so it makes Tail's chase the president section doable. I'd assume that segment wouldn't work for knuckles
@21:38 I know this is true because the first person to ever play SA2 in my family was my sister. And this level took her FOREVER because she never picked up the air necklace lol. But she fucking did it When she let me play and she saw me pick it up, she threw a fit
Fun fact: white jungle actually has remnants of an early layout of green forest present in it. Mostly a bunch of objects floating in a different part of the map. At some point the level was moved but a lot of stuff was left behind. Those floating platforms are probably part of that earlier layout. This is also why it is impossible to get a perfect ring bonus n this level since the rings from the old layout are still present
@@EpicDuskk I think Speepshighway did a video about it a few years back where he modded the game to restore the layout. Edit: actually I know for a fact he did. look up Early Green Forest Layout in white jungle.
@@EpicDuskk Also should probably note that rings are occasionally found out of bounds because they kinda serve as markers for 0,0,0 on the level. Almost every level has one. In fact, many of these make it impossible to get a Perfect in many levels since they are effectively out of bounds or in odd places. they're kinda like Mario 64's infamous "Impossible coins". White Jungle is the odd one since it of course has the layout of an earlier version of another level in it and has a bunch of impossible rings. The gamecube version actually has more impossible rings than other versions, as several Big the Cat Cameos were removed and replaced with a single ring for some odd reason. (of course, all these cameos were brought back in the 2012 version)
An explanation for one of the vines working whilst the others didn't in Green Forest, is that it's a distinct type of vine that operates differently to the others. In most situations like this, it's almost certainly a matter of things being coded in a character-specific way somehow as you mentioned when doing the rocket. The ones Rouge gets stuck on likely rely on something unique about Sonic's physics, or have something that is specifically looking for some data/animation only Sonic has, and so gets stuck. The vertically-dropping vine is likely coded in an entirely generic "lower character by Y, play A animation from current character's animation set (nobody in particular), raise character by Y" etc. way.
My guess as to why a snowboard appears after swinging on the swinging bars is because every character was probably supposed to go boarding, either in their respective stories or during other gameplay modes, at some point in development, but it was scrapped early on. It might be that somehow, swinging on the bars with Rouge spawns a board for her because for some reason it triggers some leftover code from when she had a boarding segment.
Thats usually my theory, but she doesnt get the board in other levels with swinging bars so I'm not sure. It seems to be something with city escapes code.
@@EpicDuskk Sonic may be in that exact point in his trick spin at the beginning of the level when he officially spawns in after the cutscene? It's a frame of animation she's using for her dismount that is the same as his, but for Sonic's spinning bar dismount they made an identical copy of it that plays specifically only when he uses the bars in that level to dummy out the normal frame used for all other level bar spins that happens to be the one from the start of the level, but with the board not programed to spawn for other levels so it doesn't matter in normal gameplay? Totally speculation.
I’m happy to have caught the stream the day it premiered, my favorite part was you accidentally picking Chaos 0 for Hidden Base and discovering that Omochao can break down walls when you chuck him at them. Thank you for the shoutout at the end and you’re very much welcome for the donoation, I look forward to the next fun stream!
I reallt wish shed come back in modern games. Even games like mania. Shes such a unique character, theres no other talking bats. The white and purple scheme she has looks so cool.
Thanks for mentioning my video! Axl covered everything I was going to say about what's possible that was missed; fun video once again! For the mech video I'd honestly recommend trying Red Tails, he's very funny and capable of a lot that regular mech tails is not.
Im actually working on Tails now! Im allowing both mech and no mech tails. I will def use the red tails if we need it, but so far it hasnt been necessary although it would have made pyramid cave ALOT easier
@@EpicDuskk Wasn't aware of those alternate costumes, probably because most of them were only in the Dreamcast original. Rouge's Witch outfit is pretty cool. And I never noticed that jiggle animation lol. Maybe the TVs I played had too low res or I just didn't pay attention to it when I was a kid.
I've played as Rouge alot in this game. Yup....the jiggle is exactly that way in the game. Someone behind this game really....put alot of care into her......i guess. Lol
18:47 White Jungle has an entire object layout from an earlier version of Green Forest, just hidden out of bounds. It’s why you can’t collect all of the rings in the stage.
21:34 "some people might say that Knuckles part might not be possible without the air necklace" Sudden flashbacks to 11 year old me beating the game for the first time and fighting for his life during this specific section without even knowing the air necklace existed until finding it in a TH-cam video after the fact
My guess is the vertical vines (called bungie vines) acts like a pulley while the spinning vines are programmed events made to only work with Sonic, Shadow, Amy Rose and Metal Sonic
“Green Hill Zone is actually the only level to my knowledge that can be beaten by every single character in the game” what about the two driving stages?
Good work guy, well done. I can't imagine these are easy. You should have used the shadow and sonic having Rouge's body after killing the lizard as the thumbnail. 😆
Swankybox did hero story as Rouge and dark story as knuckles a few years ago. He had speedrunners help him find ways around levels when he get stuck. Can't really remember how well he did since i haven't watched the 2 videos in awhile but i think he was able to get past 1 or 2 more levels with some help.
Yeah I didnt know about that before doing mine, but a big part of the fun is figuring stuff out, so im glad I didnt. Im always happy to learn after the fact that something I thought couldn't be done could, like with Cosmic Wall!
@EpicDuskk yeah. I remember very little. Just that he approached a lot of levels very differently if I am remembering right. I just watched the 3 videos you made for sonic, Rouge, and tails just because I wanted to see if there were other ways to do it. After all it's been a few years and there could've been new discoveries in the game that would allow you to get around problems that were hard walls. Besides shovel claws Eggman was absolutely priceless so that in its own made watching your attempts worth it
I have no clue whatsoever if this was answered, and I have no actual coding knowledge whatsoever, but as to why Rouge jumping from the bars spawns a snowboard, I would imagine it's because City Escape probably has a 'Snowboard' flag that it checks when you enter the level, and Sonic reaching a certain section would remove that flag at a certain point. I'd almost be willing to bet that the same Snowboard spawns when she starts the level, but since she's not programmed to ride it, it's just left floating there. Then, whenever her animations reset, such as after using the bar, the Snowboard flag is checked again for whatever reason, then spawns another snowboard since Rouge never lost the Snowboard flag.
The snowboard does indeed spawn and float in place at the start. What we didnt test is if we grabbed the bar again would it spawn multiple boards or not. But because the board only spawns on city escape your theory sounds correct
I was thinking for the next one we'd do Tails, but allow him to try the level mechless if he cant do it. The mech characters are the most limited, so giving him that buff would make the challenge more interesting I think!
1:20 Could that be a new fix for the Character-Mod? Haven't played around with SA2B in a long time, but I'm pretty sure it crashed on all non-speed character. So maybe the snowboard is part of the fix, like some animations shenanigans to get it to work.
@@EpicDuskk they might have just coded in the flip for rouge, possibly bc it could have been planned for one of her stages. just like how sonic has a drowning animation despite all of the water in his stages insta-killing him.
Since Rouge does the same ability as Knuckles i guess they didn't show the King Boom Boo boss as i know Rouge can actually beat King boom boo just like Knuckles Tikal and Chaos
So the playable character bosses are actually determined by the character you're playing as, but the others are fixed? That's a rather strange way of setting it up, especially since the AI clearly isn't fully compatible with the different characters.
Yeah its pretty weird. In the Tails video I posted after this we discovered we can use another mod to force the "correct" opponent, but it only works sometimes, other times it causes the game to crash.
on prison lane, what if you used the ancient light upgrade for sonic, will it take you through the gate or will it just cause you to spin against it forever?
I like to imagine Rouge clipping out of bounds is just her doing sneaky spy shit to break into places she's not supposed to go. She's crawling in the vents and hacking the mainframe bro
So im probably not gonna do all multiplayer characters as they play similar to the main cast and the runs wouldnt be very different. Amy has more mods we can use to give her more abilities, like the hammer from Sonic Adventure 1, and ill definitely do a run with her like that. Id be open to the other multiplayer characters too if we find a mod or something that makes them play significantly different.
Rouge Looks Like She Could Squeeze Through The Spin Gaps With Her Kicks. Maybe I Just Grew Up With Games That You Can Simply Run Through Small Gaps. *Cough* Sonic 06 *Cough*
ive already tried doing an eggman challenge of my own so please let me know when ur doing the eggman live stream what i find interesting is if you were to swwitch between mechless eggman and mech eggman on the fly stages like final rush would be beatable to have a mod like in sa1. i was able to beat metal harbour with eggman green forest i gave up on lmao
For the mech challenge im probably gonna go with tails, and allow him to try it mechless if we cant beat it in the mech. I feel that will be more interesting then eggman. I might do an entire mechless eggman run just because its silly and funny, but I highly doubt hed be able to beat any level without other mods. Green Hill zone is the only one I have beaten with mechless eggman before and I have a video of that on my channel.
@@EpicDuskk trust me mechless eggman can beat pumkin hill and do certain sections mech eggman can't if we could switch characters on the fly that would make for an interesting video cuz tails can just fly everywhere
@@elibonham4388 the character selecting mod doesnt let us swap on the fly sadly. I believe you about pumpkin hill, but you said you beat metal harbor with mechless eggman? How did you get past the ring dashes, or the pully towers? Theres no way mechless eggman did that without the help of other mods.
For the first video of yours I watched you earned yourself a subscriber PLS try and beat all of sa2 as shadow for the year of shadow if you haven't already
I did regular sonic last time, Metal is too similar to him. I wanna do something with him, but it probably wont be an entire run unless we discover some stuff that would make it significantly different from regular sonics run
@@noahwisbios9393 gameplay wise he is too similar. His only unique ability is the shield, and higher jumps, but that likely isnt gonna make any big differences. The run would essentially play the exact same as the sonic one minus the bounce bracelet. I will try and do something involving metal because I like him alot, but just running the game with him normally would be too similar to the sonic challenge
@@EpicDuskk For example like sonic 1, 2, 3 and K if we enable debug mode we can move the character (Player) anywhere in the stage by just pressing the d-pad buttons, that’s what I meant by air-break with X,Y and Z coordinates
@@yousefslimani99 oh im not sure if something like that exists. I use the Press A to Hover code in the mod manager if I just wanna fly around the stage. Theres also a debug in the mod manager that lets you type in specific coordinates and load into the game there.
Cant throw him through a door. We can fling him through while hes flying around us if we build up enough speed, but rouge cant get fast enough to do it.
it just so happens that youtube recommended led me here!
that camera in prison lane requires a very specific way of approach which is hard to tell from that video. hard to explain over just text but how i get pushed in is with a spherical hitbox, and since objects get collision priority over the level itself, any round-ish shape hitboxes near or up against a wall in a specific way can probably allow for some slide clipping trickery. controller angle is EXTREMELY important when doing any of that stuff. i actually have significantly improved my methods since that old video. i have an m4 run as knuckles which does them, and has a controller input view as well, but rouge glides, jumps, and climbs the same and thus can do all of it too(search: prison lane m4 knuckles). the method in that video should be easier than what i did there. i'll be sure to make a rouge run, commentating over it
cosmic wall is beatable as rouge. again, the runs done so far are as knuckles, but rouge can do it the same way(search: cosmic wall m4 knuckles). i'll have a rouge run ready for that at some point as well, also commentated
i got a lot i'm working on right now so it could be a bit before these are ready. but they are coming
Hearing Cosmic wall is possible is the most shocking, i definitely need to check that out. You are so insane with figuring this stuff out!
Oh hey I was gonna send this to you but you found it on your own anyway lol
Well TH-cam recommendation led me here too!
"Two very good reasons to choose Rouge over Knuckles..."
....It's the big ears isn't it?
you might wanna sit down for this
Her big boots are cool.
she’s got pretty big wings
I think it’s her big stupidity and her obsession with gems.
It has to be! Her tits are a single polygon, so that can't be it
Yeah but can you beat it with just the biolizard??? 🤨🤨🤨
We'll try next year for his birthday 🎂
@@EpicDuskk Yaaayyyyy :D. 🥳🥳
Hahahaha
If there was a way to use the kart in other levels I wonder if any of them could be beaten
@@ClassicBentobox that would be hilarious lmao. But a mod like that doesnt exist I dont think.
"The gravity pipes DO work but they're pretty buggy with Rouge"
Bro they're buggy with Shadow too hahah-
"They're ALSO kinda buggy with Shadow"
All the homies hate gravity pipes lol
They actually are not though. People just play the level wrong.
@@master106 Would you like to elaborate?
@@birbinhand8634 You simply just push forward when you are on the tube. You don't move against where the tube is taking you, you are going against the game that way.
@@master106 oh, ok, my fault for moving i guess
18:59 Big "The" Cat jumpscare. Fella rolls of that branch, and he's responsible for blowing up the whole island when he reaches terminal velocity.
Another plus to using Rouge is she has a car, so it makes Tail's chase the president section doable. I'd assume that segment wouldn't work for knuckles
Knuckles can drive a car in the kart race mode. I would just mod that in like I did with sonic, but it would play the exact same.
All characters have a racing mode, as it’s one of the multiplayer modes that can be done
His name isn't tail it's tails the apostrophe comes after the s
@21:38 I know this is true because the first person to ever play SA2 in my family was my sister. And this level took her FOREVER because she never picked up the air necklace lol. But she fucking did it
When she let me play and she saw me pick it up, she threw a fit
Zamn the sonic community really made the mommy% run I mean the mommy% run I mean the mommy% run
She's 18 what do you mean
@@ChaoForlifet1t Rouge was 17 in Sonic Heroes.
@@STHFan1992 for some reason she's 18 now
@@ChaoForlifet1t It's called getting older.
@@STHFan1992 i know
Her going outta bounds fits her personality and character 💜
19:17 "Hey, you know what this place looks like?
Looks like PUMPKIN HILL!"
this quote has been made funnier knowing that info
"Aaaaand, recording, go!"
[Pumpkin hill plays]
Fun fact: white jungle actually has remnants of an early layout of green forest present in it. Mostly a bunch of objects floating in a different part of the map. At some point the level was moved but a lot of stuff was left behind. Those floating platforms are probably part of that earlier layout. This is also why it is impossible to get a perfect ring bonus n this level since the rings from the old layout are still present
Interesting! Someone else said something like that too. Imma have to explore up there and see it
@@EpicDuskk I think Speepshighway did a video about it a few years back where he modded the game to restore the layout. Edit: actually I know for a fact he did. look up Early Green Forest Layout in white jungle.
@@EpicDuskk Also should probably note that rings are occasionally found out of bounds because they kinda serve as markers for 0,0,0 on the level. Almost every level has one. In fact, many of these make it impossible to get a Perfect in many levels since they are effectively out of bounds or in odd places. they're kinda like Mario 64's infamous "Impossible coins". White Jungle is the odd one since it of course has the layout of an earlier version of another level in it and has a bunch of impossible rings. The gamecube version actually has more impossible rings than other versions, as several Big the Cat Cameos were removed and replaced with a single ring for some odd reason. (of course, all these cameos were brought back in the 2012 version)
Fun fact: Rouge runs slightly slower than Knuckles.
She *is* wearing heels lol
She also has wings, yet her jumps & glide are no better than Knuckles'.
@@STHFan1992 I think some various other game assets might still be holding her back...
Just look at those ears, they're huge!
@@STHFan1992 but knuckles has dreadlocks sooooooo
@@chilidogsonic6774 Well it doesn't change the fact that Rouge's jumps & glide are no better than Knuckles' in Sonic Adventure 2 though.
An explanation for one of the vines working whilst the others didn't in Green Forest, is that it's a distinct type of vine that operates differently to the others. In most situations like this, it's almost certainly a matter of things being coded in a character-specific way somehow as you mentioned when doing the rocket. The ones Rouge gets stuck on likely rely on something unique about Sonic's physics, or have something that is specifically looking for some data/animation only Sonic has, and so gets stuck. The vertically-dropping vine is likely coded in an entirely generic "lower character by Y, play A animation from current character's animation set (nobody in particular), raise character by Y" etc. way.
My guess as to why a snowboard appears after swinging on the swinging bars is because every character was probably supposed to go boarding, either in their respective stories or during other gameplay modes, at some point in development, but it was scrapped early on. It might be that somehow, swinging on the bars with Rouge spawns a board for her because for some reason it triggers some leftover code from when she had a boarding segment.
Thats usually my theory, but she doesnt get the board in other levels with swinging bars so I'm not sure. It seems to be something with city escapes code.
@@EpicDuskk Sonic may be in that exact point in his trick spin at the beginning of the level when he officially spawns in after the cutscene? It's a frame of animation she's using for her dismount that is the same as his, but for Sonic's spinning bar dismount they made an identical copy of it that plays specifically only when he uses the bars in that level to dummy out the normal frame used for all other level bar spins that happens to be the one from the start of the level, but with the board not programed to spawn for other levels so it doesn't matter in normal gameplay? Totally speculation.
Ah yes, the first time many people have played this game with 1 hand.
I played this with a Dance Dance Revolution pad so I could have both hands 😉
WT... wait with u mean bruh? 💀💀
🤨
@@avasyubiswal5421 _"you see, it's the punchline porn that makes the joke funny"_
What a stream. It truly was Memberin' Time.
ITS MEMBERIN TIME!
@@EpicDuskkIT'S MEMBERIN TIME
i loved when zaylen 999 said “it's memberin time” and proceeded to make everyone a member in the place
I’m happy to have caught the stream the day it premiered, my favorite part was you accidentally picking Chaos 0 for Hidden Base and discovering that Omochao can break down walls when you chuck him at them. Thank you for the shoutout at the end and you’re very much welcome for the donoation, I look forward to the next fun stream!
I reallt wish shed come back in modern games. Even games like mania. Shes such a unique character, theres no other talking bats. The white and purple scheme she has looks so cool.
Knuckles was tweaking hard
At 14:06, I'd definitely be running like Knuckles
@@Ultimaximus its giving "standing here i realize"
Thanks for mentioning my video! Axl covered everything I was going to say about what's possible that was missed; fun video once again! For the mech video I'd honestly recommend trying Red Tails, he's very funny and capable of a lot that regular mech tails is not.
Im actually working on Tails now! Im allowing both mech and no mech tails. I will def use the red tails if we need it, but so far it hasnt been necessary although it would have made pyramid cave ALOT easier
AXL
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING MEGA MAN X7 REFERENCE
0:29
no way that jiggle is in the game lmao
You think thats alot? Look up what her secret multiplayer outfit looks like lmao
@@EpicDuskk Wasn't aware of those alternate costumes, probably because most of them were only in the Dreamcast original. Rouge's Witch outfit is pretty cool.
And I never noticed that jiggle animation lol. Maybe the TVs I played had too low res or I just didn't pay attention to it when I was a kid.
I've played as Rouge alot in this game. Yup....the jiggle is exactly that way in the game. Someone behind this game really....put alot of care into her......i guess. Lol
@@MeatEatingVegan777 They designed her with only one hand.
man i didn't know rouge had jiggle physics this video "taught" me that
Super Sonic/Shadow with Rouge's body... perfect ending for the run.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yay! More Solo-nic Adventure!
Chaos Zero does have the difference of being immune to water and a bigger radar but those don't come in on a tails stage
0:36 you mean you didn't pick knuckles just because he's not thicc enough
yes
No it's because he doesn't have big ears silly
@@abc_4226 but he has big fists :(
I was looking for Rouge's music from this game and stumbled upon this; this is so awesome! I'm glad people are still playing this amazing game!
I love this game! I make tons of videos for it
@EpicDuskk cool I'll drop you a sub
16:45 Yeah! I cant wait for Sonadow Generations I mean Sonadow Generations I mean Sonadow Generations
Prison Lane is such a dream killer
18:47
White Jungle has an entire object layout from an earlier version of Green Forest, just hidden out of bounds. It’s why you can’t collect all of the rings in the stage.
23:35 best victory screen ever!
“I accidently chose Chaos, but the chat demanded I stay.”
and regular omachao abuse
Based Fandom.
Fun fact, Sky rail actually intersects Pumpkin Hill. You can see Church Mountain in both levels.
Rouge almost makes me understand furries (and I'm not proud of it)
why not?
She's not pretty ( im probably gonna personally attacked)
21:34 "some people might say that Knuckles part might not be possible without the air necklace"
Sudden flashbacks to 11 year old me beating the game for the first time and fighting for his life during this specific section without even knowing the air necklace existed until finding it in a TH-cam video after the fact
Loving the content man, fun watch
My guess is the vertical vines (called bungie vines) acts like a pulley while the spinning vines are programmed events made to only work with Sonic, Shadow, Amy Rose and Metal Sonic
15:39
This is what Sonic X should have used for some episodes focusing on Rouge if they ever made a new season
“Green Hill Zone is actually the only level to my knowledge that can be beaten by every single character in the game” what about the two driving stages?
Tikal, Chaos Zero, Metal Sonic, and Dark Chao dont have cars technically
@@EpicDuskk good point. I was only thinking of the single-player characters.
Good work guy, well done. I can't imagine these are easy. You should have used the shadow and sonic having Rouge's body after killing the lizard as the thumbnail. 😆
axl is the GOAT of alternate character finishes.
Oh so this is what happened thanks zaylen
SONIC ROUGE AND SHADOW ROUGE ARE SO EPIC 🤣🤣
black doom: so i heard you like radical highway...
Nah, clearly black doom thinks radical highway is cool.
Swankybox did hero story as Rouge and dark story as knuckles a few years ago. He had speedrunners help him find ways around levels when he get stuck. Can't really remember how well he did since i haven't watched the 2 videos in awhile but i think he was able to get past 1 or 2 more levels with some help.
Yeah I didnt know about that before doing mine, but a big part of the fun is figuring stuff out, so im glad I didnt. Im always happy to learn after the fact that something I thought couldn't be done could, like with Cosmic Wall!
@EpicDuskk yeah. I remember very little. Just that he approached a lot of levels very differently if I am remembering right. I just watched the 3 videos you made for sonic, Rouge, and tails just because I wanted to see if there were other ways to do it. After all it's been a few years and there could've been new discoveries in the game that would allow you to get around problems that were hard walls. Besides shovel claws Eggman was absolutely priceless so that in its own made watching your attempts worth it
seeing rouge in a sonic movie would be awesome, i love her character since adventure 2. and shes only gotten better since.
If theres no rouge im walking out
I have no clue whatsoever if this was answered, and I have no actual coding knowledge whatsoever, but as to why Rouge jumping from the bars spawns a snowboard, I would imagine it's because City Escape probably has a 'Snowboard' flag that it checks when you enter the level, and Sonic reaching a certain section would remove that flag at a certain point. I'd almost be willing to bet that the same Snowboard spawns when she starts the level, but since she's not programmed to ride it, it's just left floating there. Then, whenever her animations reset, such as after using the bar, the Snowboard flag is checked again for whatever reason, then spawns another snowboard since Rouge never lost the Snowboard flag.
The snowboard does indeed spawn and float in place at the start. What we didnt test is if we grabbed the bar again would it spawn multiple boards or not. But because the board only spawns on city escape your theory sounds correct
Nice to see you making your own attempts at these. Keep it up
2:47
"The last one is crouching in this corner, and we have no way of destroying them."
Robot: _Why are we still here? Just to suffer?_
Bro is NOT contributing, hes the co worker who sits around and does nothing 😂
Can you beat sonic adventure 2 using tails WITHOUT the mech
I was thinking for the next one we'd do Tails, but allow him to try the level mechless if he cant do it. The mech characters are the most limited, so giving him that buff would make the challenge more interesting I think!
1:20 Could that be a new fix for the Character-Mod? Haven't played around with SA2B in a long time, but I'm pretty sure it crashed on all non-speed character. So maybe the snowboard is part of the fix, like some animations shenanigans to get it to work.
Maybe? Tails and Eggman still crash it though so im not sure
@@EpicDuskk they might have just coded in the flip for rouge, possibly bc it could have been planned for one of her stages. just like how sonic has a drowning animation despite all of the water in his stages insta-killing him.
This challenge's final hazard gsve not 1 not 2 but 4 great reasons to live and learn
4:10 that second tab though 👀
SHHHHHHH dont tell them!
Why do I think it's a 4k picture of rouges boobs
PREGNANT WHAT?
Can you beat sonic adventure 7 as the gun truck?
I love it, they need to make that a mod
Omochao is targeting the animals when you throw him. Pick up the animal and you wont keep throwing him to the side.
geniune question why not yeet omochao through the bars? you can just straight up throw him if you pick him up
He wont go through them uf we just throw him. He can only fly through if we build enough speed
@@EpicDuskk I see thank ye
that’s hot.
🤨📸
What's hot the sun
Since Rouge does the same ability as Knuckles i guess they didn't show the King Boom Boo boss as i know Rouge can actually beat King boom boo just like Knuckles Tikal and Chaos
Yeah we skipped that one since it would play out normally. In Sonic's challenge we fought and actually beat him
So the playable character bosses are actually determined by the character you're playing as, but the others are fixed? That's a rather strange way of setting it up, especially since the AI clearly isn't fully compatible with the different characters.
Yeah its pretty weird. In the Tails video I posted after this we discovered we can use another mod to force the "correct" opponent, but it only works sometimes, other times it causes the game to crash.
You’re insane for beating it with just one hand
Nah I used both hands, I just needed a 20 second break
@@EpicDuskknahhhhhhh, I can last 3 minutes
This run also shows you can beat this game with just your left hand!
Not me, I need both hands, I gotta use a dance dance revolution pad 😉
Felt so accomplished doing the final section with Knuckles when I was 12 before I learned there was the Air Necklace item. Good times :3
I just did it with Amy in one of my recent videos lmao. Its kind of fun without the air necklace tbh
on prison lane, what if you used the ancient light upgrade for sonic, will it take you through the gate or will it just cause you to spin against it forever?
Doesnt work sadly. We just get stuck till we cancel it
I like to imagine Rouge clipping out of bounds is just her doing sneaky spy shit to break into places she's not supposed to go. She's crawling in the vents and hacking the mainframe bro
@freezehorn or it's lack of polish
@@KrushinKay let joy into your life
@@KrushinKay Damm, didn't know polish people were that powerful.
@@metal_pipe9764 or u can just...... make a playable game
@@KrushinKay which is apparently impossible without the influence of Poland.
Epic Dusk the Epic Gamer, and the Lover of Baha Blast
Yay I was hoping Rouge would be next!
since no one else seems to have noticed yet.. at 4:06 why is there a google search tab open for “pregnant shadow the hedgehog”? 🤨🤨🤨
Oops 😬
can you see if it is possible to beat the game with Amy or any other of the Multiplayer only characters?
So im probably not gonna do all multiplayer characters as they play similar to the main cast and the runs wouldnt be very different. Amy has more mods we can use to give her more abilities, like the hammer from Sonic Adventure 1, and ill definitely do a run with her like that. Id be open to the other multiplayer characters too if we find a mod or something that makes them play significantly different.
Can you beat it with just A Chao?
rouge is the breast i mean best character
I have so many fond mammorys, I mean memories of her!
11:03 "freddy five bear"
Rouge Looks Like She Could Squeeze Through The Spin Gaps With Her Kicks. Maybe I Just Grew Up With Games That You Can Simply Run Through Small Gaps. *Cough* Sonic 06 *Cough*
What and ending, we need that to be the default one. Thanks for your video
Awesome!! 0:08
Can you beat it without Collecting Chaos Emeralds?
0:36 You say there are two reasons to pick her, but they're actually a single polygon, not two!
She got a booty too, so that'll just be my second reason
Didnt swanky box already do this tho?
Like he says in the vid, he wants to achieve these challenges himself, which makes sense to me.
Yup, but that doesnt mean we cant do it for ourselves. The world needs more Sonic Adventure 2 content.
@@EpicDuskk alright
Rouge has big personality!
And most likely bigger than average stapeses (i don't think it has a plural form) due to having huge ears.
Wait A Damn Minute, This Video Was Posted In 2024?! I Thought This Was Posted A Couple Years Ago! It Felt Like A Year Or 2 Ago Since Saw This Video!
@@Matthew_Cashew probably someone elses video. Im not the first to do a challenge like this
You should try it with the president’s assistant next
i love your videos!!
ive already tried doing an eggman challenge of my own so please let me know when ur doing the eggman live stream what i find interesting is if you were to swwitch between mechless eggman and mech eggman on the fly stages like final rush would be beatable to have a mod like in sa1. i was able to beat metal harbour with eggman green forest i gave up on lmao
and mechless eggman can beat pumkin hill if you supply him with the shovel claw the mech eggman cannot
also im pretty sure knukles can beat cosmic wall
For the mech challenge im probably gonna go with tails, and allow him to try it mechless if we cant beat it in the mech. I feel that will be more interesting then eggman. I might do an entire mechless eggman run just because its silly and funny, but I highly doubt hed be able to beat any level without other mods. Green Hill zone is the only one I have beaten with mechless eggman before and I have a video of that on my channel.
@@EpicDuskk trust me mechless eggman can beat pumkin hill and do certain sections mech eggman can't if we could switch characters on the fly that would make for an interesting video cuz tails can just fly everywhere
@@elibonham4388 the character selecting mod doesnt let us swap on the fly sadly. I believe you about pumpkin hill, but you said you beat metal harbor with mechless eggman? How did you get past the ring dashes, or the pully towers? Theres no way mechless eggman did that without the help of other mods.
0:39 what in the world 👏😁😆
She got the master emeralds
For the first video of yours I watched you earned yourself a subscriber
PLS try and beat all of sa2 as shadow for the year of shadow if you haven't already
Can you do. can you beat the game as metal sonic?
I did regular sonic last time, Metal is too similar to him. I wanna do something with him, but it probably wont be an entire run unless we discover some stuff that would make it significantly different from regular sonics run
@EpicDuskk no metal sonic is not similar it go over shadow and he have all shadow's moves and he can't spin dash you need a mod to make him spin dash
@@noahwisbios9393 gameplay wise he is too similar. His only unique ability is the shield, and higher jumps, but that likely isnt gonna make any big differences. The run would essentially play the exact same as the sonic one minus the bounce bracelet.
I will try and do something involving metal because I like him alot, but just running the game with him normally would be too similar to the sonic challenge
@EpicDuskk I make a video on my game and put it on discord
i love chaos i wish he would appre in another sonic game
Now try do it with the presidents limbo
Is there any mod that can let you airbreak in this game?!
What do you mean by air breaking exactly?
@@EpicDuskk For example like sonic 1, 2, 3 and K if we enable debug mode we can move the character (Player) anywhere in the stage by just pressing the d-pad buttons, that’s what I meant by air-break with X,Y and Z coordinates
@@yousefslimani99 oh im not sure if something like that exists. I use the Press A to Hover code in the mod manager if I just wanna fly around the stage. Theres also a debug in the mod manager that lets you type in specific coordinates and load into the game there.
@@EpicDuskk Well at least GTA airbreak mod had you covered, if you’re interested
another guy did this (hint: his name rhymes with WankyOx)
What a price to pay!
Use Chris Chan next time 😂
Here is comment for TH-cam algorithm
Thank you gamer 😎
cant you just grab omochao and throw him at the robos?
Cant throw him through a door. We can fling him through while hes flying around us if we build up enough speed, but rouge cant get fast enough to do it.
Great video!!!
More epic gaming as usual. By the way, I have the hardest part of my finals tomorrow, so wish me luck
Good luck gamer!
@@EpicDuskk I did it raaaaghhh ‼️‼️‼️‼️
try it only as Eggman on foot
I probably will do a run like that because it'd be silly, but I dont think he can beat any level except for Green Hill Zone, and maybe wild canyon.
Challenge:Beat Green Hill As Mechless Tails
@@Matthew_Cashew Not much of a challenge lol, just fly to the end
Is this a reupload of an older video, or am i insane? I swear I have watched this video before?
First time Ive done it, but im sure other TH-camrs have done a similar one. Maybe you saw my live stream?
wow i was a member "Was."
i was here during the live
Yeah I can just beat it with Rouge. Usually do