When I upgraded from my 2020 to my 2023 Duramax 3.0 LZ0, I almost went with the ZR2 but it was (as you said here) the fact that the engine choice was just not appealing. I completely agree with you. I went with the Trail Boss instead with the 3.0 LZ0 and have really enjoyed it. Just threw that PPE carbon intake tube in it with the stock air-box to test their stuff out.
Good call with the red. The slate grey is cool but it seems like everyone has it and the red goes so good with the black and other red accents and that's coming from a guy who prefers blue over red.
Thanks for all your info. I just picked up a 2023 Tahoe with the LM2. I love the content that you're putting out. Looking forward to following you through the upcoming videos with the ZR2.
Love your channel I test drove a new 2023 GMC Sierra denali 3.0 but price at Msrp of 77300 is to much for me at this time. I enjoy your channel. Thank you
Had a 2017 with the 5.3 and liked it alot, but went with a loaded 2023 LTZ when they put that SWEET new interior on them and decided to check out the 3.0 Duramax. That LZ0 is badass and im glad i decided to check it out!!
I would say that was too soon for the oil change, not broken in. Also want to add that 1400 miles would be too soon of an indicator of what your mpg was to have an accurate increase in mpg.
I did mine at 1000 with AMSOil and an AMSOil filter too. I get the whole, too soon thing, but after draining it I was surprised how water like it was compared to my AMSOil drain after 5k miles....very interesting
I know it’s too soon, but fresh oil within the first couple k miles gives me peace of mind. Oil was black as coal and filter had some flakes, so it did its job. As far as the mpg, first tank was incredible, second tank it tanked, third (after oil change and additive) bounced back. Time will tell,, but happy rn.
I wish they made a Amsoil filter for the 3.0 Duramax but not yet anyway they tell me.I use the PPE and love it for the 3.0 great filter with my Amsoil.@@kristoferfc6525
My ZR2 has 1700 miles on it and the oil level hasn't changed, if it is using some during breakin, I can't see it on the stick, I also didn't use any oil in my old LM2. I believe the largest factor in oil usage (but not the ONLY possible factor) is proper breakin and heating and fully cooling the engine to greater temps over time to slowly relieve the stresses in the metals from the manufacturing process. The 6.2 is a higher horsepower option with less torque, much worse mileage, and a reasonable chance of lifter failure (still) at some point in it's life. The 3.0 LZ0 is the lower horsepower BUT higher torque choice that doesn't have DFM or lifter failures due to being collapsable, and the MPG's while lower than my LM2 and with DEF usage a little higher, I completely expected these things going from an RST/LM2 to the ZR2/LZ0. I, for one, am not disappointed.
@@mzrzfxr, I agree, totally sus and cringe. I wish I had a nickel for every factory assembly video I've watched were the tech doing the work was eyeballing anything and everything except what they were working on, I know it must get boring, and I'm sure having done something thousands of times they think they could do it with their eyes closed, but lack of attention to the details is exactly how this stuff happens. They get good pay and bennies, but I'm not sure they care about the product as much as they should.
@@1randyharbin yup indeed, I really have to wonder, since I had a build date just before the UAW strike, and the engine is made in flint, if that harness thing was not intentional. I guess we may never know…
Sure is an issue at certain times of the day , comes in through the sunroof when open as well . GM made a poor choice on the materials used in the interior .
What type of oil does this engine use. My LBZ is fed 15/40. I have probably have 60 gallons of it. I'm going to have to let my 21 2SS1le and 18 ZR2 go to get this truck. 2 people, 2 cars, 2 trucks. 2 many. Love the Camaro and the 6.2. I can't decide on the engine if I pull the trigger on the truck. I'm looking at a LT trail boss. Daily driver.
0w20 is what it takes. 21 SS 1le here as well. 6.2 is a good engine, except for 22/23 years… this channel is based around 5 3.0 Duramax diesels, lots of good and bad throughout this channel with 09’s of videos to help you make that decision.
Use injector lubricant in your fuel, I notice it keeps the injectors/pump quiet. Also idk if it’s bc it’s constantly keeping the injectors clean but it quiets and smooths the acceleration, less rumbling
Both my brother and i took delivery of our AT4's back in 2021 with both steering wheels like that, we were told to drive 1000Km's to let things "settle" then they did an alignment to fix them. Have been perfect ever since. The steering wheel i mean anyways. I have a 24 AT4 with the LZ0 coming in the next couple weeks
Hey bro this is totally off topic but you mentioned you were a technician for these trucks. I have an LM2 with a check engine light with a p1098 code. Have you seen any of these? I can’t seem to find a whole lot of info online and my dealer just keeps beating around the bush. Btw love the videos, you were a huge help in me deciding to buy a 3.0 and I’m very happy with my decision. Thank you in advance
Ive been having issues with the NOX sensors, my last CEL was a DEF injector issue. Im still waiting on the service department to mail me the finding’s, for some reason they didnt have the paperwork finished when i picked the truck up last week
Chevy has a MAJOR problem with parts for new vehicles. I have a 2024 Chevy 2500 HD Duramax with a transmission failure. No parts available. Already about 3 weeks into the issue. I am told this could take months to address. 2200 miles on my new truck, haven't towed yet due to several problems. Parts availability is a HUGE issue!
Sure is ! As a GM tech, I live that situation. It’s complete trash after Covid and the uaw strike amplified it even more. Most of us techs are trying hard to make up for the customers lost time in their vehicles and are doing what we can. Hope your transmission gets taken care of soon !
I wonder how difficult it would be to just remove some of the lowest louvers so that it's open all the time while the rest can open and shut like normal.
I had a MY23 Silverado ZR2 and loved it, but I would have preferred the diesel. I'm with you, it should have had an LT4 but GM must not had wanted to pay the Government tax for mileage as those fines eventually caught up to Dodge and Ram. I liked the 6.2 well enough but I would have preferred the LZ0 had it otherwise been available in MY23. You don't make money off buying and selling this trucks every year so if I were to get out from the 6.2 V8 and into an LZ0 ZR2 in MY24, it was likely going to cost me. (Thanks, GM!) I ordered an equally equipped MY24 ZR2 in silver but before it came in, I found a heavily discounted Ram 2500 Rebel with 6.7 Cummins for like $14k off MSRP and bought it instead. Gave up nice camera rear view mirror and the color HUD, but gained a handful of other obvious things. I figured if I were going to make the move to a diesel, that truck may check all of my boxes and provide a little better value in the long run. Time will tell. I was considering a 2500 HD Silverado ZR2 with the L5P, but you won't beat the fuel economy and cost of ownership of the LZ0. I loved the cameras on the ZR2, particularly when parking and how I could see all four wheels. The ZR2 package was awesome; put that on a Tahoe with the LZ0 and I might trade my wife's Navigator in for one of those.
I have the at4x aev amd there is nothing I have ever been in that has a more comfortable ride. You really have to find some gnarly shit to get the thing rocking. I want to put bigger tires...looks like 34's will fit for sure...maybe 35'5, but with the 323, idk if there would be alot of power loss. Red looks good man.
I have a 22 ZR2, stock suspension, I had to clearance a bit behind and in the front to fit a true 35x12.50. I also have different offset wheels, they're a bit wider offset. If I wanted to do it again and make the tires fit without rubbing I think I would try to keep the stock wheels and run a 35 with 1.10.5 or something closer to that, but I wanted those 701 Methods with the beadgrip. I wheel my truck really hard and nothing has broke, fingers crossed.
Do you have the aev bumpers? If so, there is plenty of clearance for bigger tires without having to trim. I just want to get the size right the first time!
I just put a set of 275/60/R20’s on last week with stock GM wheels. I could have went with 285’s but was worrying about the MPG. Looks like I’ve lost about 5MPG going from 265/60’s to 275/60’s ( 2” Lift )
@@2cthetruth nope, the AEV ZR2 wasn't available the first year. And my dealer wants $4300 for just the front bumper which makes me want to puke. I believe you'll need to clearance the rear area towards the cab still regardless of bumper, since I had to do mine, but I also didn't lift it yet. I have a front lift that I haven't put on yet because I'm waiting for a custom leaf pack from Deaver so the whole truck is lifted. I carry about 1300lbs of stuff in the back of my truck with my Decked draw system and other tools in the cab. So right now with stock suspension the truck sits perfectly level lol
@@mp5kfisher241 try going with a lighter wheel next time your doing tires, might help, these GM wheels are heavy, my Methods were quite a bit lighter and load rated higher. I only saw a 2mpg hwy drop on mine going from the factory 33 to the 35x12.5 which isn't too bad imo. However when I lift it I suspect I'll have another hit in mileage
So are you happy with your zr2 with 3.23 gears or would you rather have kept hi country with 3.73 gearing? Do they make aftermarket.arket geaes for zr2? What about not having the 2 speed transfer case and now just having drive modes? The only reason i would go zr2 over high country would be the lockers, but as a daily, i dont think lockwra would get enough use to justift the addition cost over high countey.
Is that Butterfield Park in Herriman, UT? I live up the road in the canyon and just got a twin to your truck in White with 3.0 Duramax. Love the red and your great reviews and honesty.
Can't believe the steering wheel was centered such a way, aligned in at the factory to be that crooked. Even the dealership should have caught that. Sent that truck right back to the factory. That's how the factory learns to get their s*** right. But to the dealer, a sale is a sale and they're desperate for every one.
Just purchased a 2024 LT trailboss with the 3.0. Think the same day you did.lol. I've got 70 miles on mine and only seeing around 19 MPGS on it. Do these 3.0 take a little time to see better fuel mileage? Also if yours is like mine. If you hold the tailgate button for a few seconds, it goes back up.
I wonder what gears are available currently for the GM as I know in later years that has been commented on that there had been no aftermarket optional gear ratios and I don't know about this truck but I believe it has been where the standard diff vs the max tow option rear diff are physically different and am speculating that even the factory gear options would not interchange. In fact DW, can you find out some info on that for a future video, what options are out there to swap gears if desired, not only if factory 3.73 will fit but if there are even lower geared sets on the market.
I'd like to know how the mileage is with the new truck Vs the last one with the max Tow? Also do you think the Zr2 would feel better with the larger gears of the max tow package? I'm on the fence about getting the max tow on my next truck if available. I do tow once in a while just a 7x14' cargo trailer but not often and I may add a small lift with a bit larger tire.
I have a 2023 chevy silverado, sat at the dealership for 12 weeks waiting for a steering rack . GM offered no compensation!! Had to fight to get a pickup truck with a hitch and brake controller as a loaner . GM dosent care you are paying car payments and monthly subscription fees on something you cant use! GM dosent care that you where a loyal customer for 25 years !! GM is junk, ordered a toyota for reliability and the residual value . The ZR2 is okay for 90000 canadian , but not a great truck . If you want a working navigation system , you will need to spend 20 to 30 dollars plus taxes a month on a subscription service . The stero system is weak for a top end trim like this. Fuel milage for the 6.2 with recommended premium fuel is terrible !!! Better of buying a toyota Tundra !!
Transmission servicing for this 10 speed auto is a nightmare. No dipstick. No drain plug. Just a plug on the side to add/fill. Definitely a transmission shop or dare I say dealer job. The transmission has to be at a certain temperature for proper level to be checked. And you have got to see where GM put the exhaust crossover pipe 🤷♂️.
Im looking at this truck with that engine combo as an option. Currently i drive a taco but i need more room . Trying to decide between Ford tremor , Zr2 or Tundra
I just wish Chevy would make a half ton economy style truck with a V8 for less than 30k. It seems like these unaffordable vehicles get a lot of attention but aren't the staple vehicle that brings in the business.
At least your smart enough to unload it before issues come. If you work on them; then your aware of wet belt for oil pump & costly repair. Try keeping one over 150K & see how durable it is?
Good video, love the ZR2 package, especially the suspension. However, I am a Toyota guy who drives a Tundra TRD PRO, and there's just no way I would give up that kind of reliability for a Chevy. Love the idea of the Duramax 3.0, wish Toyota would offer a Diesel in the Tundra. Good luck with your new truck, you are going to need it, lmao.
What is the part number for the leaf springs? My 21 has 2 leaves plus the overload and I’m constantly hitting the overload. I have the deaver mini pack but haven’t installed yet because of the leaf spring click.
Do you recommend getting the bank gauge if you have the 3.0? I have the 23 at4 3.0 and I plan on keeping it for a long time. This is my first diesel truck and I've noticed HD trucks usually have extra gauges but didn't know the real benefits of it.
I do! I am switching to a dual pod this weekend, but here’s my single pod setup HOW TO Install Banks Stealth Pod for iDash 2024 Silverado ZR2 3.0 Duramax Diesel th-cam.com/video/_j6Z0Fj3guE/w-d-xo.html
I didn't mean to say that it wasn't that great, just that it wasn't that expensive and I prefer to do it more often. I grab mine from Amazon or my dealership, typically.
@donmckenzie5027 with diesel vehicles it all depends on you! How often u let tank of fuel sit at or below 1/2tank so it can condensate during warm days cold nights, that will eventually produce some water in bottom of tank over time, and also how many different fuel stations u use. Try to stick with known good stations that constantly get fuel deliveries and u see other diesels buying fuel there all the time. I'd change every other oil change, no matter what.
@@DemonWorks thanks for the info, I figured you’d be the guy to ask for an exact answer. I’m thinking about getting a ppe trans pan (thanks to your video) and install while doing a trans fluid flush
23 camaros were a 12k difference from 2SS to ZL1 and the ZL1 gained more options by going to a ZL1, so I don't see why the option couldn't have been made available for $10k.
at4 is more like a trail boss. This one has the multimatic shocks, different exhaust setup, different interior colors and material. The AT4x is this truck but with the aev goodies, like a ZR2 Bison.
GM never ceases to amaze. Even on thee highest torm level they still ship them with defects. The steering wheel being that far out has a concern for the electric rack. Sloppiness for the badge and fender flare. Not really good examples for high dollar. Im pickers aren't that deep for one.. or that foolish to let them charge it. I like my 2022 refresh RST 5.3. It fit our budget.
So you have a truck that fits your budget. You came here just to complain. The issues are minimal fixable issues. These are all trucks that come off a factory line. Just like ford or dodge or whoever. You’re the person that wants a handmade truck for no money.
@@traviscrown9189 I guarantee you that they had a lazy azz operator who didn't center the steering wheel during alignment after the truck was driven off the assembly line. That device has a bubble just like a level and it centers itself to virtually make it impossible to F up. It relies on the operator to do his or HER job properly. Most of these operators are high seniority, that being said, some just ain't worth 40 dollars an hour.
Your high country was stock height? Because that is why you may have gotten better fuel mileage since this one since it’s 2 inches taller, not so much the different gearing?
I think GM is trying to make this truck affordable so they can more mass produce it. Remember when the Raptor came out it had a 5.4 in it. Talk about being underpowered .
nobody will know... but if the vehicle has mechanical issues later on down the road, it's something you may look back at and think that maybe the break in was more important than originally thought.
@@DemonWorksYou may be right. It looks like it's leaking something. Spots look like oil from afar but as you close in it looks like water color on the concrete. Almost like soot with def? I'm not sure but the dealer says there is seapage in front of oil pan. I don't think it's that.
@@christopherbrooks3321 I bet it's black ! this fluid burns quickly with the high temps. Here is a video that will hopefully assist in the task th-cam.com/video/0gnu4iAPuNA/w-d-xo.html
So I watched the video with the guy that broke down the 3 L diesel. He said it had 145,000 miles and I’m guessing the reason for engine failure was lack of maintenance and low oil or did you get something different out of it?
23ish on average. That's with the ZR2... which has heavier and larger wheels than the other trucks. This is my 5th 3.0, I ahve videos on all of them, all optioned differently. What do you have?
@@HazardousRob yes they are more expensive. The cost increase for some better sound damping material as well as the dash for the at4 or Denali to me is worth it. If I didn't want that upgraded dash and slightly quieter interior I agree the Chevy is a better value. But the cost difference to me is more chevy over priced than Gmc in comparison
Could you be more of a poser? Bullet antenna? No mic during the rant? Not understanding the point of a 3.0 Duramax (it’s not power)? Not ordering the right gear set because you just had to have the ZR2 package? Ok, that’s on GM.
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got mine a week ago, only difference is i went bison and blue. Loving the truck
Awesome !!! The bison package is amazing looking !
When I upgraded from my 2020 to my 2023 Duramax 3.0 LZ0, I almost went with the ZR2 but it was (as you said here) the fact that the engine choice was just not appealing. I completely agree with you. I went with the Trail Boss instead with the 3.0 LZ0 and have really enjoyed it. Just threw that PPE carbon intake tube in it with the stock air-box to test their stuff out.
The multi matic are available for at4 and trailboss now as an accessory to purchase after ownership. Pricey
I agree with you on the gearing, especially with the 33 inch tires!
Good call with the red. The slate grey is cool but it seems like everyone has it and the red goes so good with the black and other red accents and that's coming from a guy who prefers blue over red.
Thanks for all your info. I just picked up a 2023 Tahoe with the LM2. I love the content that you're putting out. Looking forward to following you through the upcoming videos with the ZR2.
Thank you ! Congrats on the new ride !
Love your channel I test drove a new 2023 GMC Sierra denali 3.0 but price at Msrp of 77300 is to much for me at this time. I enjoy your channel. Thank you
check again prices down 10k
I like the 2024 GMC AT4X 3L diesel, AEV bumpers come standard without the AEV package and added perks with it
Such a nice truck. My favorite!
Had a 2017 with the 5.3 and liked it alot, but went with a loaded 2023 LTZ when they put that SWEET new interior on them and decided to check out the 3.0 Duramax. That LZ0 is badass and im glad i decided to check it out!!
Also, I did change oil at 1400 miles. Amsoil and wix filter. Also using Hot shots in the fuel. Gained a couple mpg's, so am impressed.
I would say that was too soon for the oil change, not broken in. Also want to add that 1400 miles would be too soon of an indicator of what your mpg was to have an accurate increase in mpg.
I did mine at 1000 with AMSOil and an AMSOil filter too. I get the whole, too soon thing, but after draining it I was surprised how water like it was compared to my AMSOil drain after 5k miles....very interesting
I know it’s too soon, but fresh oil within the first couple k miles gives me peace of mind. Oil was black as coal and filter had some flakes, so it did its job. As far as the mpg, first tank was incredible, second tank it tanked, third (after oil change and additive) bounced back. Time will tell,, but happy rn.
I wish they made a Amsoil filter for the 3.0 Duramax but not yet anyway they tell me.I use the PPE and love it for the 3.0 great filter with my Amsoil.@@kristoferfc6525
I keep hearing that the Lucas treatment in the fuel is good, have you heard if is good, better or worse than the Hot Shot’s?
Nice truck. I love my 2024 Chev 2500 diesel duramax. Dark ask 6.6 L . 4x4 Z71 .
My ZR2 has 1700 miles on it and the oil level hasn't changed, if it is using some during breakin, I can't see it on the stick, I also didn't use any oil in my old LM2. I believe the largest factor in oil usage (but not the ONLY possible factor) is proper breakin and heating and fully cooling the engine to greater temps over time to slowly relieve the stresses in the metals from the manufacturing process. The 6.2 is a higher horsepower option with less torque, much worse mileage, and a reasonable chance of lifter failure (still) at some point in it's life. The 3.0 LZ0 is the lower horsepower BUT higher torque choice that doesn't have DFM or lifter failures due to being collapsable, and the MPG's while lower than my LM2 and with DEF usage a little higher, I completely expected these things going from an RST/LM2 to the ZR2/LZ0. I, for one, am not disappointed.
Solid ! Love to hear it!
Wonderful to hear!
So far no oil consumption, at 1600mi AT4x lz0. Tho I had the egr come unplugged at 484mi, went into limp mode… fixed but still sus to me :-/
@@mzrzfxr, I agree, totally sus and cringe. I wish I had a nickel for every factory assembly video I've watched were the tech doing the work was eyeballing anything and everything except what they were working on, I know it must get boring, and I'm sure having done something thousands of times they think they could do it with their eyes closed, but lack of attention to the details is exactly how this stuff happens. They get good pay and bennies, but I'm not sure they care about the product as much as they should.
@@1randyharbin yup indeed, I really have to wonder, since I had a build date just before the UAW strike, and the engine is made in flint, if that harness thing was not intentional. I guess we may never know…
Sweet truck! Subscribed for the LZ0 content.
Awesome thank you! My last truck was a 23 LZ0, highly suggest you check out that content. 23 white High Country.
Thanks great video these trucks here in New Zealand are $150,000 NZD new as they have to be converted to left hand drive
Oh wow!
Nice ride! Great review 👍
Thanks! 👍
Another thing that makes the drive smooth is the 18 inch wheels I wish all trucks come with 18
Absolutely! I noticed that when I had a set of ZR2 wheels on my prior truck.
#2 glow plug was an issue on the earlier models
Correct - th-cam.com/video/lVK0IWCHsWU/w-d-xo.html
I had my front windshield tinted because of the glare off the hood. But its really only at certain times of the day that you might notice it.
Sure is an issue at certain times of the day , comes in through the sunroof when open as well .
GM made a poor choice on the materials used in the interior .
i dont even like red cars/ trucks but this is just niiiiiiccccceeeee. Im getting a truck this year and i may actually get that color. great vid
What type of oil does this engine use. My LBZ is fed 15/40. I have probably have 60 gallons of it.
I'm going to have to let my 21 2SS1le and 18 ZR2 go to get this truck. 2 people, 2 cars, 2 trucks. 2 many. Love the Camaro and the 6.2. I can't decide on the engine if I pull the trigger on the truck. I'm looking at a LT trail boss. Daily driver.
0w20 is what it takes. 21 SS 1le here as well. 6.2 is a good engine, except for 22/23 years… this channel is based around 5 3.0 Duramax diesels, lots of good and bad throughout this channel with 09’s of videos to help you make that decision.
Looks great
What’s the price. If they can’t get steering wheel alignment and emblems right makes you wonder what else did they screw up.
Right ?!?
My steering wheel alignment was good until they replaced the steering rack at 14000 km's , now it dosent line up
Just remember, the guy that put that emblem on, thinks he's underpaid.
Use injector lubricant in your fuel, I notice it keeps the injectors/pump quiet. Also idk if it’s bc it’s constantly keeping the injectors clean but it quiets and smooths the acceleration, less rumbling
It’s crazy Chevy won’t give you 3.73 gears with any type of off-roading trim/package
It was available in the "off-road" package early on 20/21 I believe it was.
Both my brother and i took delivery of our AT4's back in 2021 with both steering wheels like that, we were told to drive 1000Km's to let things "settle" then they did an alignment to fix them. Have been perfect ever since. The steering wheel i mean anyways. I have a 24 AT4 with the LZ0 coming in the next couple weeks
Hey bro this is totally off topic but you mentioned you were a technician for these trucks. I have an LM2 with a check engine light with a p1098 code. Have you seen any of these? I can’t seem to find a whole lot of info online and my dealer just keeps beating around the bush. Btw love the videos, you were a huge help in me deciding to buy a 3.0 and I’m very happy with my decision. Thank you in advance
Would need some diagnosis, but there is a reprogram available for that code specifically.
Ive been having issues with the NOX sensors, my last CEL was a DEF injector issue. Im still waiting on the service department to mail me the finding’s, for some reason they didnt have the paperwork finished when i picked the truck up last week
I agree with you on the engine choice. I LOVE the Duramax don't get me wrong.... But I do agree..
Chevy has a MAJOR problem with parts for new vehicles. I have a 2024 Chevy 2500 HD Duramax with a transmission failure. No parts available. Already about 3 weeks into the issue. I am told this could take months to address. 2200 miles on my new truck, haven't towed yet due to several problems. Parts availability is a HUGE issue!
Sure is ! As a GM tech, I live that situation. It’s complete trash after Covid and the uaw strike amplified it even more. Most of us techs are trying hard to make up for the customers lost time in their vehicles and are doing what we can. Hope your transmission gets taken care of soon !
@@DemonWorks Nice to hear inside folks speak out. Good on you. Horrible as customer to deal with.
I wonder how difficult it would be to just remove some of the lowest louvers so that it's open all the time while the rest can open and shut like normal.
Great video
I had a MY23 Silverado ZR2 and loved it, but I would have preferred the diesel. I'm with you, it should have had an LT4 but GM must not had wanted to pay the Government tax for mileage as those fines eventually caught up to Dodge and Ram. I liked the 6.2 well enough but I would have preferred the LZ0 had it otherwise been available in MY23. You don't make money off buying and selling this trucks every year so if I were to get out from the 6.2 V8 and into an LZ0 ZR2 in MY24, it was likely going to cost me. (Thanks, GM!)
I ordered an equally equipped MY24 ZR2 in silver but before it came in, I found a heavily discounted Ram 2500 Rebel with 6.7 Cummins for like $14k off MSRP and bought it instead. Gave up nice camera rear view mirror and the color HUD, but gained a handful of other obvious things. I figured if I were going to make the move to a diesel, that truck may check all of my boxes and provide a little better value in the long run. Time will tell. I was considering a 2500 HD Silverado ZR2 with the L5P, but you won't beat the fuel economy and cost of ownership of the LZ0. I loved the cameras on the ZR2, particularly when parking and how I could see all four wheels. The ZR2 package was awesome; put that on a Tahoe with the LZ0 and I might trade my wife's Navigator in for one of those.
It took me 14 months to get my 22 AT4..
I have the at4x aev amd there is nothing I have ever been in that has a more comfortable ride. You really have to find some gnarly shit to get the thing rocking. I want to put bigger tires...looks like 34's will fit for sure...maybe 35'5, but with the 323, idk if there would be alot of power loss. Red looks good man.
I have a 22 ZR2, stock suspension, I had to clearance a bit behind and in the front to fit a true 35x12.50. I also have different offset wheels, they're a bit wider offset. If I wanted to do it again and make the tires fit without rubbing I think I would try to keep the stock wheels and run a 35 with 1.10.5 or something closer to that, but I wanted those 701 Methods with the beadgrip. I wheel my truck really hard and nothing has broke, fingers crossed.
Do you have the aev bumpers? If so, there is plenty of clearance for bigger tires without having to trim. I just want to get the size right the first time!
I just put a set of 275/60/R20’s on last week with stock GM wheels. I could have went with 285’s but was worrying about the MPG. Looks like I’ve lost about 5MPG going from 265/60’s to 275/60’s ( 2” Lift )
@@2cthetruth nope, the AEV ZR2 wasn't available the first year. And my dealer wants $4300 for just the front bumper which makes me want to puke. I believe you'll need to clearance the rear area towards the cab still regardless of bumper, since I had to do mine, but I also didn't lift it yet. I have a front lift that I haven't put on yet because I'm waiting for a custom leaf pack from Deaver so the whole truck is lifted. I carry about 1300lbs of stuff in the back of my truck with my Decked draw system and other tools in the cab. So right now with stock suspension the truck sits perfectly level lol
@@mp5kfisher241 try going with a lighter wheel next time your doing tires, might help, these GM wheels are heavy, my Methods were quite a bit lighter and load rated higher. I only saw a 2mpg hwy drop on mine going from the factory 33 to the 35x12.5 which isn't too bad imo. However when I lift it I suspect I'll have another hit in mileage
So are you happy with your zr2 with 3.23 gears or would you rather have kept hi country with 3.73 gearing? Do they make aftermarket.arket geaes for zr2? What about not having the 2 speed transfer case and now just having drive modes? The only reason i would go zr2 over high country would be the lockers, but as a daily, i dont think lockwra would get enough use to justift the addition cost over high countey.
on the gauge cluster, above the spedo, I don't have that on my 22 lol
New for 24
@@DemonWorks I figured
My Zr2 also has the canted steering wheel. How did u fix it?
I didn’t. It will need an alignment to correct.
Is that Butterfield Park in Herriman, UT? I live up the road in the canyon and just got a twin to your truck in White with 3.0 Duramax. Love the red and your great reviews and honesty.
Yes it is! Congrats on the new ride ! thanks for the kind words !
I will look for you around town. The 3.0 Duramax has been a great engine. What dealer are you a tech at?@@DemonWorks
Can't believe the steering wheel was centered such a way, aligned in at the factory to be that crooked. Even the dealership should have caught that. Sent that truck right back to the factory. That's how the factory learns to get their s*** right.
But to the dealer, a sale is a sale and they're desperate for every one.
I like the sound of a diesel motor and my LM2 has gotten louder since it was new. Wish it was just a little louder but probably not going to happen.
DW, we would love to see if the LZ0 ZR2 has lost its sand capability due to low HP. Hopefully, you live by some dunes.
I have a 23 RST with the Max tow package. I just realized it does not have a 4 low. Any reason they did this?
Just purchased a 2024 LT trailboss with the 3.0. Think the same day you did.lol. I've got 70 miles on mine and only seeing around 19 MPGS on it. Do these 3.0 take a little time to see better fuel mileage? Also if yours is like mine. If you hold the tailgate button for a few seconds, it goes back up.
Better mileage does come after break in. Mine is the Multiflex tailgate , so no power up. My previous truck had the power up/down as well.
Bro.. for the 1500 you need 6.2 dod delete and a frickin blower. Otherwise if you want to play diesel boy just get the 2500 zr2
no playing diesel boy here, I got what I wanted.
I’m really hoping you have a gear swap planned for us, uh, I mean you 😎
At this time, I do not, but you never know !
I wonder what gears are available currently for the GM as I know in later years that has been commented on that there had been no aftermarket optional gear ratios and I don't know about this truck but I believe it has been where the standard diff vs the max tow option rear diff are physically different and am speculating that even the factory gear options would not interchange. In fact DW, can you find out some info on that for a future video, what options are out there to swap gears if desired, not only if factory 3.73 will fit but if there are even lower geared sets on the market.
Are they E-coating the frames like they do on the Colorado?
I'd like to know how the mileage is with the new truck Vs the last one with the max Tow? Also do you think the Zr2 would feel better with the larger gears of the max tow package? I'm on the fence about getting the max tow on my next truck if available. I do tow once in a while just a 7x14' cargo trailer but not often and I may add a small lift with a bit larger tire.
I have 2024 Zr2 when i can buy the side steps plz
Can you list the major parts that are not interchangeable with other models especially the 2023 Duramax 3.0 Silverado ?
I'm not able to do that, sorry.
Are these shipping without CarPlay now? Still think that’s a bad decision by GM. Love your truck. Enjoy and good luck
They are only getting rid of CP on EVs. All their ICE vehicles have CP and AA. Cheers
Are all the half ton ZR2s made in Mexico? I've yet to see a ZR2 vin with a 1 or 2. Diesel or Gas. Sweet truck.
Correct.
I have a 2023 chevy silverado, sat at the dealership for 12 weeks waiting for a steering rack .
GM offered no compensation!!
Had to fight to get a pickup truck with a hitch and brake controller as a loaner .
GM dosent care you are paying car payments and monthly subscription fees on something you cant use!
GM dosent care that you where a loyal customer for
25 years !!
GM is junk, ordered a toyota for reliability and the residual value .
The ZR2 is okay for 90000 canadian , but not a great truck .
If you want a working navigation system , you will need to spend 20 to 30 dollars plus taxes a month on a subscription service .
The stero system is weak for a top end trim like this.
Fuel milage for the 6.2 with recommended premium fuel is terrible !!!
Better of buying a toyota Tundra !!
How many miles would you recommend for the first oil change on 3.0 diesel?
3000-5000 miles is what I am planning on.
I asked the question before watching the complete video and you stated that. Great information, nice truck. Thanks
I wanna know why i cant order a ZR2 with a standard bed, but i can order an AT4 with one.
Because GM , why can't we get 3.73 anymore? Or even 3.55s They STUPIT lol
Transmission on this truck, for servicing... is there a drain plug and a fill tube?? Thanks, great video btw...
Transmission servicing for this 10 speed auto is a nightmare. No dipstick. No drain plug. Just a plug on the side to add/fill. Definitely a transmission shop or dare I say dealer job. The transmission has to be at a certain temperature for proper level to be checked. And you have got to see where GM put the exhaust crossover pipe 🤷♂️.
With all of your 1500’s you have owned with the 3.0L. What has been your average MPG?
typically 23mpg lifetime
Im looking at this truck with that engine combo as an option. Currently i drive a taco but i need more room . Trying to decide between Ford tremor , Zr2 or Tundra
What have you decided for your choice of truck?
I just wish Chevy would make a half ton economy style truck with a V8 for less than 30k. It seems like these unaffordable vehicles get a lot of attention but aren't the staple vehicle that brings in the business.
How do the zr2 shocks compare to the bilstein 5100 you had on the HC?
15:16 I talk about the suspension - I think the Multimatic rides better.
At least your smart enough to unload it before issues come. If you work on them; then your aware of wet belt for oil pump & costly repair. Try keeping one over 150K & see how durable it is?
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have you talked about deleting the 3.0 duramax? id be tempted to do it when im outside my warranty.
I have not.
Stop being that guy the epa is looking for to make a example out of 🤦♂️ People never learn
@@kwmikedwhat did he mean by “deleted” ? Does that have something to do with the DEF? What will the EPA do to people if they modify the diesel?
@@mp5kfisher241if you real out want to know, google it. No reason to put this information out on here.
Good video, love the ZR2 package, especially the suspension. However, I am a Toyota guy who drives a Tundra TRD PRO, and there's just no way I would give up that kind of reliability for a Chevy. Love the idea of the Duramax 3.0, wish Toyota would offer a Diesel in the Tundra. Good luck with your new truck, you are going to need it, lmao.
Not sure what year your Tundra is but we have had a lot of shot transmissions at low mileage at my dealership.
@@colinconklin6767
Mine is a 2019, purrs like a kitten, pulls like a mule. Has 30K miles, tow a 23 ft bay boat all the time, no issues as of yet.
What is the part number for the leaf springs? My 21 has 2 leaves plus the overload and I’m constantly hitting the overload. I have the deaver mini pack but haven’t installed yet because of the leaf spring click.
Why cant i see the 3.0 duramax on chevy website anywhere for the 24 colorado
The colorado doesn't get this engine. This is a ZR2 Silverado.
@@DemonWorksoh my bad haha thanks
When I was looking on the chevy site it was showing 13,300lb towing capacity for the 3.0 duramax? How come this one has a lower tow capacity?
That would require the Max Towing package, which the ZR2 cannot get. My prior truck was a High Country with that package though.
@@DemonWorks oh gotchya thanks for quick reply. And awesome video! Your truck looks soo great! Enjoy it
Do you recommend getting the bank gauge if you have the 3.0? I have the 23 at4 3.0 and I plan on keeping it for a long time. This is my first diesel truck and I've noticed HD trucks usually have extra gauges but didn't know the real benefits of it.
I do! I am switching to a dual pod this weekend, but here’s my single pod setup HOW TO Install Banks Stealth Pod for iDash 2024 Silverado ZR2 3.0 Duramax Diesel
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@@DemonWorks Awesome, thank you
Since you said the fuel filter isn’t that great. What is the one you recommend on getting?
I didn't mean to say that it wasn't that great, just that it wasn't that expensive and I prefer to do it more often. I grab mine from Amazon or my dealership, typically.
@@DemonWorkshow often do you do your fuel filter changes? My Denali 1500 diesel just turned 4000 miles.
@@DemonWorks gotcha! I was wondering 😂
@donmckenzie5027 with diesel vehicles it all depends on you! How often u let tank of fuel sit at or below 1/2tank so it can condensate during warm days cold nights, that will eventually produce some water in bottom of tank over time, and also how many different fuel stations u use. Try to stick with known good stations that constantly get fuel deliveries and u see other diesels buying fuel there all the time. I'd change every other oil change, no matter what.
Thank you for info, I will change soon.I only use Top Tier diesel from Costco.@@kwmiked
Manufacturer says oil change at 5000 miles then 15000 miles.
Manufacturer says to follow the dash, because it varies by driving. It should be no more than 7500 miles between intervals.
How often should the transmission fluid on these trucks be drained and replace?
Owners manual has no mention of it under normal driving, but severe use is 45k. www.duramaxnews.com/post/maintenanceschedule
@@DemonWorks thanks for the info, I figured you’d be the guy to ask for an exact answer. I’m thinking about getting a ppe trans pan (thanks to your video) and install while doing a trans fluid flush
4:08 you really need a mic on you, couldnt hear a word you were saying that entire explanation even with my volume at max
What are your thoughts on using an amsoil bypass oil filter and VSE duel fuel filter set up?
Haven't seen a direct bolt on oil bypass but I did run the VSE Fuel System Saver on my previous truck. th-cam.com/video/xwJBZwq2DgU/w-d-xo.html
So no max tow on this model? Are you missing the rear end gears you had on the max tow?
correct, no max tow with ZR2. I wouldn't mind having the 3.73 gears in this truck but it's not a huge issue.
do they still come with a extra QT. of oil
Yes, they do, starting with the 2023 Truck models.
Trucks are already expensive as it is. Throwing a massive supercharged motor pushes it over $100k and they won’t sell.
23 camaros were a 12k difference from 2SS to ZL1 and the ZL1 gained more options by going to a ZL1, so I don't see why the option couldn't have been made available for $10k.
The AOV in Canada is over 100000, about 112000 plus all the taxes
@@DemonWorks Probably the drivetrain.
Haha you answered my question lol
What’s difference between this truck and the AT4?
at4 is more like a trail boss. This one has the multimatic shocks, different exhaust setup, different interior colors and material. The AT4x is this truck but with the aev goodies, like a ZR2 Bison.
What’s your monthly payment and interest rate? 🤔
Sometimes vehicles don't have an interest rate....
@@DemonWorks how did you manage 0% you paid in full?
Was this truck made in Mexico?
Yes, still better than some of my USA built ones though.
@@DemonWorksya think?
Yeah, I’ve been let down quite a bit by the USA built ones unfortunately
@@DemonWorksinteresting
@@DemonWorksand yes unfortunate
LT4 is right.......Fmary barra.
GM never ceases to amaze. Even on thee highest torm level they still ship them with defects. The steering wheel being that far out has a concern for the electric rack. Sloppiness for the badge and fender flare. Not really good examples for high dollar. Im pickers aren't that deep for one.. or that foolish to let them charge it. I like my 2022 refresh RST 5.3. It fit our budget.
So you have a truck that fits your budget. You came here just to complain. The issues are minimal fixable issues. These are all trucks that come off a factory line. Just like ford or dodge or whoever. You’re the person that wants a handmade truck for no money.
@@traviscrown9189
I guarantee you that they had a lazy azz operator who didn't center the steering wheel during alignment after the truck was driven off the assembly line.
That device has a bubble just like a level and it centers itself to virtually make it impossible to F up.
It relies on the operator to do his or HER job properly.
Most of these operators are high seniority, that being said, some just ain't worth 40 dollars an hour.
Your high country was stock height? Because that is why you may have gotten better fuel mileage since this one since it’s 2 inches taller, not so much the different gearing?
How do you feel about the 4 cylinder turbo engine option?
Garbage
I’d stay away from that engine. GM is discounting trucks with that engine heavily - nobody wants them.
I think GM is trying to make this truck affordable so they can more mass produce it. Remember when the Raptor came out it had a 5.4 in it. Talk about being underpowered .
What if you pull a trailer within the 500 miles?
nobody will know... but if the vehicle has mechanical issues later on down the road, it's something you may look back at and think that maybe the break in was more important than originally thought.
@@DemonWorksYou may be right. It looks like it's leaking something. Spots look like oil from afar but as you close in it looks like water color on the concrete. Almost like soot with def? I'm not sure but the dealer says there is seapage in front of oil pan. I don't think it's that.
When do you change transmission fluid on 3.0 Duramax diesel? I have 71,000 on my 2020
oddly enough, the owners manual says nothing of it aside from 45,000 mile interval under severe use.
@@DemonWorks I was going to change it fluid and filter at 75,000
@@christopherbrooks3321 I bet it's black ! this fluid burns quickly with the high temps. Here is a video that will hopefully assist in the task th-cam.com/video/0gnu4iAPuNA/w-d-xo.html
So I watched the video with the guy that broke down the 3 L diesel. He said it had 145,000 miles and I’m guessing the reason for engine failure was lack of maintenance and low oil or did you get something different out of it?
Ebay leveling kit and shocks with stickers that don't mean anything
Thanks for watching !
How well is you fuel mileage i live in utah?
23ish on average. That's with the ZR2... which has heavier and larger wheels than the other trucks. This is my 5th 3.0, I ahve videos on all of them, all optioned differently. What do you have?
Around town on the freeway? I've been looking for a 3.0. I just haven't found one yet looking at lt trail boss
@@codymarshall5753 mixed driving. Freeway and streets.
Is it geared different to compensate for the larger tires
I want that hood! Want to trade? :)
Lol your ZR2 has more payload than my AT4 and more offroad capability.
Wow, I assumed the ZR2 would be the lowest !
@@DemonWorks I had assumed that as well. My AT4 is 1285
@@cstgxthat’s really low for an at4. My 23 at4 3.0 is 1524lbs. Carbon pro pack tho
@@rjd827 yeah. It is low. Fully loaded AT4 with the standard bed. It's pretty sad.
These things are junk for what they want. It needs to be 10k less
If it was 10k less you would still be complaining. Please shut up.
@@traviscrown9189😂
I agree it's over prices esp when comparing the Chevy to the Gmc when you compare the similar trucks.
@ericfriedle456 the GMCs are even more expensive and you get less.
@@HazardousRob yes they are more expensive. The cost increase for some better sound damping material as well as the dash for the at4 or Denali to me is worth it. If I didn't want that upgraded dash and slightly quieter interior I agree the Chevy is a better value. But the cost difference to me is more chevy over priced than Gmc in comparison
Fender flares are ugle
I hope your day gets better.
What are u talking about
To me the damn think is ugle
They do not service a purpose so therefore I have already say it they be ugle
Could you be more of a poser? Bullet antenna? No mic during the rant? Not understanding the point of a 3.0 Duramax (it’s not power)? Not ordering the right gear set because you just had to have the ZR2 package? Ok, that’s on GM.
@jameslarson7452 You’re a 🤡