5 Good, Bad Things for the 2024 Chevy Silverado 1500 ZR2 3.0L Duramax diesel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- Our Publisher Tim Esterdahl gets behind the wheel of the 2024 Chevy Silverado 1500 ZR2 with the 3.0-liter Duramax diesel. He talks about his likes and dislikes on the Silverado 1500 ZR2.
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GM should make the seats they had back in 2000-2006 for their full sized trucks and SUVs. They were comfortable. I had a 2001 GMC Sierra SLT. Way more cushioning than what they have now.
I don’t see how they can sell so many new trucks with those horrible seats in them.
Those seats were actually designed by bmw funny enough
Yes I had an 2007 Limited old body style. The seats were comfortable and easier to clean. Along with rug on floor too it had 265,000 miles I’m hoping my 2022 does the same I just don’t like material on seat
Agree! Had a 2000 suburban and could drive that thing 500 miles 3 days in a row no problem. Currently have a 2003 1500hd and I run out of gas way before my butt hurts.
@@markhavelka4924 the seats are the main reason I won’t consider a Chevy or GMC full size truck now.
On Amazon they have seat covers called Coverado they are awesome
I was like you before and now my back don’t hurt anymore
I have had 2 of the 3 liter GM diesels, a 21 LM2 and a 24 LZ0, neither burned any oil (21K on LM2 and 3K on LZ0), and they both used DEF at 2-3% of fuel used, towing or not, currently just fit 2.5 gallons of DEF in the LZ0 with 110 gallons of diesel used so far. If you are towing, you are using more fuel, and DEF usage will be up, no way around that.
You should had went for the ZR2 absolutely I love the looks!
I purchased the 24 Trail Boss LT Durmax. I like the 3.0 engine. I haven’t towed anything yet, but I definitely like the mileage. I have the sunroof, but I wish it was panoramic.
Good video, thanks. I haven’t had any issues on my 3.0 yet with a lot of def usage or oil consumption, maybe I got a good one. One thing I think is the panoramic sunroof is way over rated. My f150s all had them 2015-2017-2021 and I’ve ended up being a non fan after 8 years. On my 24 GMC at4 I love the smaller sunroof. The large one had wind buffeting at high speeds opened or opened up. The kids didn’t like the sun shining on them in the summer when travelling. I overall liked the panoramic sunroof but prefer the smaller one. Not to mention the panoramic has a history of going off track and failing, happened to my wife’s ford edge, and if there’s a crack is $2000 Canadian to fix.
Overall cool truck. I’m enjoying my 2024 3.0 way more than any of my 3.5 ecoboost or v8 coyote.
Great video Tim!
The panoramic sunroofs leak like sieves. F150, Tundra-read all the complaints in the forums.
At the time I ordered my Trail Boss the ZR2 wasn't available. Now its a good package compared to a upper level 6.2L LT Premium Trail Boss like I have. I tow frequently so those DSSV shocks would have to go.
Picked up my 2024 LZO High Country with max trailering beginning of January and have about 2000 miles on it now. I live in central IL, and have seen no oil consumption yet and used only 2 out of 8 bars of DEF. So i have no complaints there. The seats, were very stiff at first, but seem to be breaking in and i actually find it pretty comfortable now. I have yet to tow with it, but next month its gonna stretch its legs hooked to my 24 foot enclosed trailer at 9500 lbs. Pretty excited to see how you offroad your ZR2
It seems the higher the trim the more comfortable the seat
Does the max trailering package get you up to the 13,300lbs?
@@arieljones4595 Yes, GCWR is 19,000 LBS. I spent the $ on getting the tow mirrors as well. Totally worth it, as they were on my 17 as well
Tim bring it down to Colorado Springs and we will take it up Pikes Peak and off road up Mt Baldy, etc.
Amsoil has the right oil for that truck and PPE has the right oil filter
I have a ‘23 RST. Just changed the oil at 4500 miles and haven’t noticed any oil consumption. My DEF was draining at about a gallon every 1k miles. But now at close to 5k I’ve only used a small amount of DEF. I don’t think every 3.0 burns oil.
In exchange for that my rear window leaks. So I’m not without issues.
Zero oil consumption for me as well. I am at 26,000 miles.
same for me as well, 23 rst running strong, had my first oil change at around the same miles as you.
The high oil consumption issue on some of the 3.0 Duramax has been traced down to a glow plug/seal issue. There is a GM TSB out on that.
I looked into that and it doesn't apply to the LZ0 diesel.
@@Pickuptrucktalkdoes the LZ0 not have the consumption issue then?
@@christiankrantz9003 I followed up on that TSB and it doesn’t apply to the LZ0 only the LM2.
I have a 2022 refresh with 50,000 mi and mine does not consume any oil and I use 1 gallon of Def per thousand miles on average. I did just get a new oil pan and crank seal but I still never had to add oil.
Traded a 2019 ram 1500 Laramie for a 2024 ZR2 1500 Duramax.
Both trucks have their strong points. Headlights seat comfort visibility keyless entry cornering brakes and body styling all go to the Ram.
The ZR2 rides about the same but soaks up the bigger bumps better, I’m averaging 25 mpg powertrain goes to the Zr2 and I absolutely love the rear camera. And because it’s the Zr2 edition stock for stock it looks way better than the ram and has significantly better off-road capability.
The seats don’t feel uncomfortable or hard to me but the rams were better. I like how GM allows you to turn the auto high beems on and off. And I actually give the nod to the Chevy on the interior. But my Laramie was a base with no 12 inch display
I have ordered both my last 2 silverados with no sunroof. I never use it and don’t miss it.
same here. dont need no stinkin sunroof. To hot during the day and if i want to look at stars at nite, i can do that outside the truck.
I have the panoramic sun roof in my 2021 ram 1500. I never have the roof open.. sunlight, beaming down on me driving makes me go nutts...
I use mine more than the rear sliding glass lol
If you had a panoramic sunroof on that truck it would lower the payload further. I’ve experienced problems with stone chips on the front bumper in the past when my truck had body color bumpers. I found the chrome bumpers held up better (I know the chrome is out of style right now). I’m not sure what the answer is. Beautiful truck.
For what you do the high country was the better fit . Even though it can tow the ZR2 still is more of an enjoyment vehicle. Although if it were me I’d go ZR2 . 🤔
Tim, I think the interior piano black plastic surfaces getting dusty really depends on where you live and drive. I have a 22 Tundra 1794. The black trim in that truck rarely gets dusty unless I travel on our gravel roads or take it to the back of my property especially in the summer. Otherwise it's not much of an issue.
As for the exterior, I really dislike flat black plastic on any vehicle. It just screams cheap. Plastic is plastic, if you are off road it’s going to scratch regardless.
As for the LZ0, it seems like a good compromise for most, though I’d rather not feel I have to add mods to the engine to compensate for poor engineering, spending more money on top of that 75k.
I’m wondering why don’t the manufacturers don’t make the bumpers out of forged aluminum for the off road trucks? Wouldn’t that be optimal for scratches and scrapes. Don’t have to worry about scratching paint off and rusting.
Great looking truck!
I have only owned a silverado for the last 10 years and i finally sat in an F150. Holy hell so much more comfortable
I like the Wrangler Duratrac. Good choice.
What about connected services? Yeah, I know GM supposedly dropped the mandatory thing but why no decrease in price or at least lower than normal inflation increase?
No oil consumption after the first oil change on my 3.0. 26 on the highway 22 city. Love my 2023 so far.
What about the DEF ? How many miles on a full tank ?
I like my 2023 ZR2! But I wish I had the diesel! For my work I don’t haul or tow, lot of off road usage and hi-way miles so diesel more economical!
The seats are painful and just unacceptable because they use to be comfortable in any trim level. For the price they charge for vehicles and this is what you get. 1- are the GMC seats better and 2- are the HD truck seats better in either brand? Thanks for the video
Tim. Any news on the 2025 Chevy 1500? Read a little on GM authority that it’s 100% all new body and frame.
Did you like the seats in your High County better?
The newer Chevrolet trucks have the most uncomfortable seats ever made
The seats in the Chevy were one of the reasons I bought a Ram 18 months ago. The seats in my 2011 Silverado were better than what are in them today.
Just curious, did you have leather or cloth?
@@Xpingwinz The Ram has leather; the old Silverado was cloth.
Probably my biggest issue with all of the manufacturers is the boring grey or dark grey interiors. I wish these companies would bring back colors.
2024 and manufacturers can’t build an engine that doesn’t burn oil
My 2023 has all but quit burning oil I added two quarts of oil in the first 15k miles. Getting 28 hwy mpg in my trailboss.
My 2023 GMC SIERRA with the LZ0 used 12 ounces oil first oil change, 5 ounces of oil second oil change. I have switched to Mobil 1 ESP X2 0w-20 oil which has the DEXOS D rating. This oil is readily available at AUTOZONE in 5 quart jugs for about $37 ($7.4/quart). If you buy it by the quart it’s over $11. I live in “PODUNK” NM and don’t have any problem finding this oil. DEF useage is about a gallon every 1,000 miles (no towing). My fuel economy has been 28 mpg over 12,000 miles (hand calculated). If you’re going to tow a lot buy a 3/4 ton, IMO.
My 08 6.6 durmax doesn't burn oil and it has 495k km on it.
If you could get these trucks with better seats and the option to remove all the nanny parts of the programming, they would be vastly better. Also, anyone who says that oil usage is normal is just making excuses for poor quality. I think that engine would be perfect if they just figured out the oil consumption issue.
Yes, I would agree you should have definitely bought the ZR2.
In the real world I'm seeing $10,000+ discounts on ZR2 and Raptors are still all at least MSRP. For the price difference I'll take that front locker, good MPG and live without the 35s or Fox shocks.
you could put on 35's and still be ahead
I had those tires on my Colorado zr2, they get much louder as they get miles on them.
Nice music, Ass, I thought I was hearing Gun Sam.😂😂
I'm still waiting for the LT4....... the diesel zr2 is kind of a dog compared to the 6.2l. The fact they never re-geared the truck for the bigger tires and weight makes a big difference. LT4 is what needs to be under the hood. Cool looking truck though for sure.
Last comment…. The shiny black interior. What is the solution. Anything black shows dust.
YOU FORGOT NO LOCKING FUEL DOOR!!!
Nice truck
I have a 2023 silverado LZ0 with 6K miles on it and I average about a gallon of DEF every 1000 miles and no oil consumption
GM has got to do something about DEF and oil consumption. Just when I get the feeling I could buy one it's NOPE I'll get the 6.2 or 5.3 gas anything but the D
Just to have lifter failure? This is the best engine GM has in half tons
The gloss black plastic on the interior of my 22’ 1500 LTZ drives me insane… looked great the day I picked the truck up and has annoyed me ever since 😅
Same!
Most oils carry the gm dexos approval. So if you use any of them it would void the warranty?
In this case, there are very few oils that GM recommends per the owner's manual.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Well I dont like that. I was thinking the 3.0 was pretty good too. Oh well
As long as the oil has dexos they won’t void the warranty
I was expecting that payload would be less than what Tim said
You don't like the light scratches on the truck you bought with off road package? 🤦
What are you talking about? I didn’t buy this truck. 😂
@Pickuptrucktalk
It's irrelevant whether you own it or not. Off road trucks are supposed to get light scratches on them. The bigger tires suspension aren't designed to look cute and shiny while driving down the highway.
So is this your new truck
You hit it in the head. A pick up is DESIGNED TO CARRY THINGS! If you are buying it to carry things and it can only carry bags of feathers and boxes of whiffle balls, then don't buy it. If you are just riding around empty going to work or grocery store, and looking fly, then buy it...
If that’s the five things you don’t like, I would say General Motors is doing pretty well. The only legitimate bitch you have is maybe the seats aren’t comfortable. But you don’t like shiny black accents really…… I bought a 23 high country because of you, I have no issues with engine oil consumption, and I don’t do much towing so I don’t have a DEF issue. I personally like the piano black on the interior as well. Love the Duramax averaging 26,27 miles to the gallon. road trip to KC was getting 30.
Beautiful truck...steel bumper is great until rock chips start to rust...look at all the older Tahoes and suburbans driving around with awful rusting bumpers....awful!
if you get the max tow you lose payload too
Yes those seats are terrible. After my trip to Florida and back to (2021) Pennsylvania In my 2016 Yukon XL SLT, it had to go, downsized and not a GM. Subaru Ascent and I have made the same trip twice and my butt thanks me.
Great looking exterior but have never like the interior on the ZR2. The pleather feels cheap to me. Much. Prefer the high country interior.
The Oil and DEF consumption is an issue actually. look it up. They should not be doing that.
The zr2 is definitely more sportier than the high country
Isn't the 2024 Diesel a brand new engine?
Great review Tim, thanks. I appreciate your honesty up front about the oil consumption, my Amazon delivery guy has the Silverado with the diesel and that was one of the first thing he mentioned. I then got the owners manual and I found out that “THE ACCEPTED OIL CONSUMPTION” according to GM was 1 QUART PER 2000 MILES and 1000 During towing I ran from the hills! I mean my 12 year old VW diesel burns 1quart in 10,000 miles, WTF? I mean I am a diesel guy and I like that baby duramax for its performance and fuel economy numbers BUT Im sorry I would not put my hard earned cash down on one with this new duramax. Not happening.
Does it use oil all all the time?
Also what grade of oil are you using? Just curious because I'm thinking of buying this truck.
Not all the time, only when towing. I used whatever the owner's manual recommended. I can't recall off the top of my head.
Tim, It Almost sounds like you Still have a Bad taste from NOT getting the price you wanted, from your Old Diesel 3.0. Remember? (The Best truck I ever Owned) I liked your old diesel, and it got closer to 30mpg, right? This gets 21? Screw that! I don't need a higher lift and bigger tires. But, I Don't like hearing that they use oil. Not good. I think you should ask if everyone that owns a 3.0 diesel, if They are All using 1 to 2 quarts between oil changes?
Hey Tim,
When pricing is “what it is” on these higher end off roading trucks, I’m guessing that mileage isn’t a big sales factor for buying.
Now, on to the seat issues. I see that you didn’t follow my rear end therapy to improve your seating comfort. Twenty minutes of twerking three times a week and you would have the iron butt of an Olympic champion and if you miss a workout and are on a long drive use your seat heater( upper and or lower seat back or cushion). ;)
As always stay safe and healthy.
Ron
Yeah I think if you could of got the ZR2 with the diesel then yes you should of got it, but it wasn’t available then.
Bah! Piano black is such a pain.
Good review I’d love to do a Silverado diesel for the mileage but I rather have a panoramic roof there’s nothing like it and once you have it once you’ll always want it. The Tundra hybrid is looking to be the best for me so far
For $75k I would have gotten a Tundra TRD Pro
Does it have lockers ? Chevy has hard crappy seats. Ford has the best interiors hands down. And pricing of all trucks across the board it totally Ridiculous which a lot of people cant afford and the introduction of 4 cylinder engines in trucks will be the Downfall they don't hold up or last long!
your dislikes are valid.
Overpriced like everything else... Amsoil will NOT void the warranty.. it not only meets requirements from Chevy Ford Toyota etc but it far exceeds them
Leer makes GM truck seats. They have always been junk.
Its not the smartest design, however it doesn't cost $3000. Its about 6-8 hours of labor. So depending on the shops hourly rate, $600-1000 plus the $25 dollar belt.
And at 200k miles...
My AT4 had 1285 payload. That's the reason I bought an F350.
Why get this over a Raptor or even a Tremor?
Because it's a better overlander
Because it’s not a Ford!!!
Price seems to be a bit better, towing is slightly above, a couple of standard engine options depending on want or need etc.
Put Ford seats in a Silverado and I would be a customer forever.
What if I was to say that you are always full of it question mark LOL
I've owned a 2018 Ford Raptor for 4-years. I owned four new Chevy Silverados consecutively before owning the Raptor. After owning the Raptor, I would never go back to owning a GM truck product. The lifter problems associated with DOD, the transmission issues, and the electrical problems I experienced on all Chevy’s were absent on the Raptor. I had zero issues with it through ownership. As far as the 3.0 diesel, I love the engine, the specs, and everything about it except one thing: the timing belt design. That is no bueno for me.
Oil pump belt design?
Just wait until you have to change the oil pump belt.
You have to drop the transmission for that.
$3000 💰 💴 💵 for the whole job, and the belt only costs $25.
One of the most asinine designs in automotive history
Every 200,000 miles.
One would expect GM to take a close look at the current Ram interior and start trying to catch up!
How can you afford to buy every year? With the prices so high. Not to mention the insurance costs. Gotta love tye Democratic Traitors inflation.
How could I afford not to?