8 Nano-Sized Klon Klones (Decibelics, Wampler, MXR, Nux, BYOC, Tone City, Mosky)
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- A thorough comparison of every nano-sized Klon Centaur clone I could find. The classic mythical overdrive in a much, much smaller package.
Thanks to Guillem at Decibelics Pedalboutique in Barcelona for the loan of the Decibelics Golden Horse. I had it for AGES, and he didn't complain once. www.decibelics... Here's the video where he compares it to the original 2001 Klon Centaur that all his pedals are based on: • The best Klon Centaur ...
Deceibelics Golden Horse Mini Klon Centaur
www.decibelics...
Wampler Tumnus (the latest version has a slightly different case design but is the same on the inside)
www.wamplerped...
MXR Sugar Drive
www.jimdunlop....
NU▸X Horseman
www.nuxefx.com/...
B.Y.O.C. Li'l Pony
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Tone City Bad Horse
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Mosky Golden Horse / Silver Horse
www.ebay.com/s...
Gear:
Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster (both pickups)
EHX 720 Looper
Boss Katana 50w amp (Clean channel)
mic'd with a Sennheiser e609
into a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Recorded in GarageBand, edited in Final Cut Pro X
I’ve always wished that pedal and amp demos would use a looper. That removes any bias that the player may have for a certain option.
I agree 100%
I think it depends on the demo. If it’s like here, where you’re comparing very similar pedals to each other, then a looper is perfect to highlight the subtleties.
I agree. Now where do you stand on the tessellation of Roald Dahl books?
It is great for these kinds of clone demos, but the thing is a pedal can change the feel and make you play a little different. So for more varied selection of pedals it can actually be less fair than a human player who is trying to make most of each pedal.
Yes. And 99 percent of klon demos. Bang chords. That’s not what klon is best at. It s best at fatting up weak leads. Bluesy.
Just wanna say I watch about 6 different pedal channels and this one is leagues above the rest, keep up the badassery!
That's a great compliment - thank you!
Totally agree! Best way of commenting and testing I ever saw on TH-cam! At least for now.
Best by far. Sick of the inane ramblings others seem to be happy to put out. This setup looks simple but I know it takes a lot of knowledge, planning and work at every level to make it this slick. Bravo!
@@MrTommyfellows I do have to do them quite a few times before I get the whole way through without screwing it up :)
All brands copying Klon: gold, yellow, silver, black with gold or yellow
MXR: ....BLUE....
These videos are so good, it makes me very sad that the channel appears to have stopped posting, wherever the creator is, I wish them well
Thanks! The pandemic put me on hiatus. I do plan to get back to it. Just not sure when…
honestly i love this channel, the loops you use are amazing and the fact you use them at all is a rarity among pedal channels (which is a huge surprise)
The loud mode on the Silver Mosky is 2xLEDs, quieter mode 2xGe, same as the Gold.
I've never fallen into the Klon hype, but that MXR sounded awesome and it's almost $100 less than the Decibelics. If I had to choose I'd definitely go for that one. Great video!
Thanks!
Good for you...I sold mine for 6 times what I paid for it No regrets
@Drew Pierce Yes the true test for a mostly always on pedal...The Xotic Super Clean boost is really good for that as well and you can really tailor the sound and run 18 V if you want Im using that an an old Rangemaster clone....
This awesome format of demoing would could be potantialy the best way to check the diiferences between Tube Screamer, Klon, Blues Breaker, Zendrive and OCD type of OD's, i would personally add a BB Preamp in the mix because im interested in it since Andy Timmons uses it for a tube screamery kind of tone.
Yes - I've thought about that... Doing a 'Six Classic Overdrives' comparison - OCD, Timmy, Blues Breaker, Klon, TS, Zendrive/Dumble. But That Pedal Show did a pretty good one already (though not directly comparing them with a looper, of course).
@@ThePedalBored i love Dan & Mick and i've seen that video many times, but straight comparison on one guitar, one amp, and with the looper is something different.
@@lucaszembrzuski I vote with Lucas. I love That Pedal Show, but I could really go for the Six Classic Overdrives in your format, as well as Classic Distortions. Your videos do help me immensely, because I have no really good music store to A/B pedals.
@@mtrooze I also vote with Lucas.
LucasZembrzuski to make it PERFECT, he may use a looper to activate each pedal, I don’t know if a buffer at the very beginning would help to retain all the signal through the chain to optimize the whole performance.
So i received my "Muslady Golden Horse" a couple of weeks ago. I fell in love immediately. That's the cheapest pedal i have ever owned and it's the only one along with a tube-screamer like that i would never want to do without.
It just makes everything sounds better: clean, drives, chords, riffs, high gain.
I didn't understand Why people use it as a clean boost. Well i do now. It's where it really shines, it's like magic.
I originally wanted an Archer but it's 11 times the price....
At the end it's like I on the road, trying to tune to a radio station and some smaller but closer station is getting in the way. Neat.
Great demo. These are the best pedal comparisons on TH-cam. Please come back and make more!
I took a chance buying the mosky golden horse. At the price, I figured why not? I was pleasantly surprised how good it was compared to the other higher end pedals on my board. Today I did a recording session where my rhythm tone was the mosky (output and tone at 1 o'clock and tone at 11 o'clock) for versedls & pushed by an xotic ep booster at minimal setting for choruses. For solos, I used the mosky pushing a revv G2. It's a fantastic little pedal. Even better since it's so affordable.
This is the channel of my dreams. Thank you for creating the best pedal comparison demos. The manufacturers MUST pay you for those honest reviews. When demos like this are biased towards some companies (such as when the player obviously picks harder and more carefully when demonstrating the "more expensive" equipment), it seems like mocking the customers and doing this only destroys the will to buy those products. And products seem like they have "nothing to hide" when the comparison demos are objective. Because your demos show for what differences we are paying more/less.
Can you please make a series of videos where common dirt pedals or their clones (such as ocd, ts, muff, rat etc.) stacked with each other? Because the usual case is to stack them for screaming solos or chunky, edgy rhythm tones.
Ha! I would love it if they paid me, but I don't think that's every going to happen. :)
Gain-stacking is a thing I'm only recently beginning to get a handle on, and since there are SO MANY drive pedals on the market, it's hard to pick the definitive combos. (The one that's really interesting me at the moment is the DOD 250 Preamp, and running different drive pedals into that.)
Great comparison - the Decibelics Golden Horse is still my favourite in this area
Nice to hear - it's a LOVELY pedal. Like a tiny work of art.
@@ThePedalBored I know this well - I am very familiar with Guillaume's meticulous work and was fortunate to have collaborated with him to some small degree on his recent Angry Swede pedal which is equally adept in its own category. His pedals are Fabergé jewels in the mini category in particular - and sound just as good as they look.
Ah! I thought your name sounded familiar! He's offered me one to try out in a similar way - but high gain isn't really my world. Maybe one day!
@@ThePedalBored Ha ha - totally understandable
PB I hope you will eventually come back with more comparisons. As so many have already said; your format really is amazing. I would say it’s the best.
Thank you! Soon hopefully. There’s a massive construction site next to my home currently and where I record isn’t soundproof. But when the nail guns stop the comparison videos will return!
wow, nice one! decibelics golden horse is the absolute best pedal in the video, don't get me wrong. but mosky golden horse being almost 1000% cheaper (not being hyperbolic) than the decibelics, it is the number one top winner in this comparison, even with it's downsides (louder noise floor/less headroom). thanks for the video, amazing!
The Moskey does not last. Mine died in a few months. You get what you pay for with cheap components.
had my moskey for quite awhile. components don't seem cheap. buy 10 new moskeys or one used decibelics.
@@CMHobbies They're good if you know how to solder.
All great pedals, but the coolest one is the NUX horseman. From the graphics, to the knobs, a silver mode and true/buffered bypass.
We might have different preferences which horse 🐴 is better but there is no debate that this channel is the G.O.A.T. 🐐!!!
Good price point too. I would go Bad Horse for a really budget option rather than the Moskys. +shipping it comes to the same as the NUX for me though.
Alas I ended up ordering some other chinese-made Klon lookalike on eBay for $75, no clue what circuit is like but we'll see. If it sounds bad I might buy a NUX or Bad Horse and port the internals if I can be bothered. Like you said NUX looks good as-is.
Your demos are my favourite, keep up the good work! You using the Boss Katana also gives me the most accurate reference for my gear, so that's a plus. Also, your videography and the set with the books and the wooden floor looks unique in a great way!
Thank you!
This was like a ballet of switching pedals 👏
Ha! This is how I shall describe all my videos from now on...
You made the best pedal comparison videos. I’ve seen others try to imitate your approach but none come close.
Fascinated to see the imitators! :)
This should be how all pedal comparisons are done. Thank you!
Thanks!
Once again, I'm just here for the loop. Once again, it did not disappoint
Aw shucks, that's very nice to hear.
The pedal board demos/comparisons are very, very helpful. Thank you. And I love the books.
*board
@@larryn2682 Thanks. Where were you three years ago when I needed you?
This demo rocked, especially with the looper providing consistent input. I love the pedals I use now but I have this fantasy of a really portable nano-pedal board for gigs.
Great vid again. That looped track is so catchy aswell.
Thank you!
Hands down the best demo videos i have ever seen in youtube.
I did my research and got the NU X horseman. The option of buffered or true bypass, and the dual modes sold me because I like options. I don't care if it doesn't quite clone a Klon. It's a different clip than my TS and my Super Metal, and blend well between them. It sounds fat and smooth, and has TONs of boost.
How did the NUX Horseman work out for you? I'm curious because I just watched the video and I'm coming to the same conclusion. Thanks
@@SpecialTed I have the NUX and it's a great pedal. Very surprising the amount of options you get between the tone/gain controls and the gold/silver modes. Silver is really just more gain, but it's also brighter. I've seen people with two of them on their boards, one set to gold and one to silver and they used the silver as a solo boost. Great pedal, especially for the price. It's got a real following if you look around online.
Love love love these vids. Best way to judge pedals...and love the loops.
I love this demo for originality and fun. It has helped my search for a klon clone and was entertaining. Thumbs up. Subscribed!
Excellent!
I've just discovered this channel and comparisons are great. One note though: unity gain pot position doesn't have to do anything with pedal headroom. It might be just a different pot tapper, or entire clipping section, who knows.
Another awesome video, brother!
As expected, the Decibelics is ace as it’s a true “clone” in every way.
But for return on investment, I still think the Mosky Golden Horse is solid at $18.
I really like the Tone City Mad Horse too, although it’s more of a stand alone distortion pedal than a Klon knock off in my opinion.
I like a lot of the pedals from that Tone City series, especially the Sweet Cream (which is a Mad Professor Sweet Honey clone), the Tape Machine (which is a Mad Professor Deep Blue Delay clone), and the Summer Orange (which is an MXR Phase 90 clone).
Great video. Effective comparison, good observations, and informative. Well done.
Love this comparison! The MXR is so close, but with price comparison the moskys would seem to be a really good value. Silver seems more versatile, the extra bass boost might be a good option to have if you switch between HB guitars and say teles or some other single coils. Great loop!
This vid makes me feel better about having spent the ridiculous money on a Decibelics - thanks :)
Outside of the awesome demo, I’m loving the shit out of the tune. Really great music!
Thanks! It's the slowest part of making these videos, coming up with a loop. (And then editing them, of course.) Shooting the thing takes literally half an hour max.
Almost got cocked wah sounding at the end, which was brill. Love this format and your fastidious nature in coaxing all of the tones it off the pedals. Kudos to you
I think you're demos are some of the best out there. Love this channel dog!!
Best K copy review I've seen yet. Its the MOSEY & TONE CITY for me. Seriously, great job.
Thanks!
Come back to us. Your channel was the best bro
For $20-$30 the Mosky is a must have for EVERY guitar player.
Wish I'd found your channel sooner. These are perfect comparison videos
Thank you!
Appreciate the straightforward method of demonstration AND your own evaluative comments.
So I really love the idea of a loop playing into the pedals for comparison. However having them all in the same signal chain doesn't work with Klones. Most of these pedals are running a buffer so while the horseman is last in the chain it will sound totally different if you move it to the front.
SoldierOnMusic Yeah that is technically true, and has been discussed in other comments here, and on my other Klon clone video, but I tried moving them around and it’s honestly really very, very hard to tell the difference. My ears aren’t good enough. Perhaps you *can* tell, but I decided I couldn’t and wasn’t really worried about it. 🤷♂️
Love these true side by side comparisons, I get the impression you have spent a lot of time getting the aesthetics just right too, I mean look at the way the cables are beautifully arranged. That's no accident.
Great stuff, I have a Mosky Golden Horse that I bought as a stop gap for a while but on hearing it against some others it really does look like a bargain. That said if I could justify it, I'd have a Tumnus.
Again. Great stuff and please keep the bids coming.
Thank you! And yes, I spend a little too much time on how it looks... Was still annoyed you could see some of the white putty holding the power cables down... :)
Had you not mentioned it, I wouldn’t have noticed. I’d say the Xotic RC Booster kicks all of their collective arses.
Always enjoy your loops, and the character they develop as you walk through effects. Bottom line, any of these units would work to give you the Klon sounds. I agree with your final assessment.
Especially when it comes to a band or studio mix situation. Almost never using these things in isolation unless you're just at home noodling.
No forever pedals, even change tuners. Love the review, thanks. Got their Spring Reverb on the merits of the GH.
Dude this was brilliant. Glad to see the MXR was a super close match because that’s the one I have on my board!
Thank you - glad I could help you feel you made the right choice!
I’ll number thoughts this time:
1. Excellent video, this is entertaining and extremely helpful.
2. Good to know the MXR is basically as faithful as it gets to a proper Klon, some folks on guitar forums ragged on it, but I’m now sure it was due to confirmation bias that a mass produced pedal can’t possibly be a proper Klon.
3. What is up with mini BYOC pedal gain pots? I had a Li’l Op Amp Big Muff clone from BYOC and the gain didn’t get into proper Big Muff territory til it was at 75%! This Li’l Klon has the same issue.
4. Running 7 mini Klons together gives you a good shoegaze tone. Kevin Shields will see this and immediately buy 7 more Klons.
5. Ever try the Way Huge Conspiracy Theory? I got one for less than $100 on a Memorial Day sale and it’s awesome. Not sure how it compares to the MXR (they’re both under Dunlop’s corporate umbrella) but it does everything I want a Klon to do and it’s built like a tank.
6. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the Boss SD-1 shootout!
On the Dunlops ... If I remember correctly, Jeorge Tripps designed both Conspiracy theory and Sugar drive ... Conspiracy just beeing his own crazy twist on that theme ...
This video is EXACTLY what I needed. Thank you.
I hear great things about THE GOOD SOUND mod of the Mosky pedals. Supposedly changing out two diodes gives the pedal MEGA headroom.
Which ones?
Fantastic format for comparing pedals, love your channel
I'm getting a lovely seventies vibe from the loop.
Interesting - I think it was slightly inspired by a band called This Is The Kit, but I get that '70s thing you're saying.
That was a great way of comparing. NO TALKING because it is smarter this way.
I'm going with the horseman because it's two in one, and that mid-hump you mentioned will be different when I set it for more treble. And I play ceramic pickups which are mid-heavy.
Nice choice! Great pedal.
Brilliant. I like your sense of humor. Great noise in the end of the video! Yep, I watched it to the very end.
And, regardless of this demo, I bought Tumnus.
Subscribed.
I never thought to put my looper before pedals when comparing tone. Great idea! I have the MXR Sugar Drive and love it.
Glad you like it!
"Let's see if I can make this lot sound horrible" is something I can really get behind. For the record it sounded awesome
It's a blessed release after all that trying to be careful comparing things accurately.
Best pedal demo channel I've seen yet. Thanks for posting.
I absolutely love the music! Is it original? Sounds great! Awesome video! Thanks!
Just picked up a mosky silver horse, can’t wait
In my opinion, no doubt, Decibelics wins
Hooray for the original Golden Horse!
One of the greatest comparison ever seen. Thanks~~~~
Great video, man! I'm not done watching the vid but I know it's a quality right here...
Anyway if I can request please do a comparison on treble booster pedals.. Thanks
Unlike a lot of pedals I try, treble boosters really do need a particular kind of amp - I don't think the Katana would show them off correctly.
@@ThePedalBored you could try the brown channel just lightly broken up and see where it goes. Another option is to use a preamp pedal to help the tone be more receptive as well.
you actually need a vox ac30 like amp which is darker and more focused on the mids to demonstrate what treble booster is invented for.
@@berksalmanoglu1439 it is widely know that it works great with a AC30, but it can work with many other amps. Fender 5e3, Marshall's, Laney, etc.
Despite the brilliant pedal comparison you do I absolutely love your loops!
Glad you like them!
I ordered a Gold Mosky two days ago to try out having a Klon sound, so your final assessment was a relief!
Glad to help!
You're definitely right that the high headroom of the Boss Katana 50 probably precludes you from showing everything of which these pedals are capable. I'd love to see these pedals hit the front end of a British valve amp like an AC15. It would probably make it even more clear where your money goes when you buy one!
For me, I've found cheap pedals have a problem with noisy switches.Its something you don't really get to hear in most demos, but your demos do a good job showing how cheap pedals can often have a bit of a noise/volume 'pop' when first engaged that higher-quality pedals don't deal with. It was unfortunately the reason why I had to return my Black Secret and I ended up just getting the regular RAT.
Thanks for the thorough comparisons. The mosky gold was my first dirt pedal. It was definitely a great introduction to drive and I still enjoy it. But now I need to find a pedal that can do that awesome pseudo-synth sound you pulled at the end. 🤘🏼
Or 8 pedals...
Thank you so much for the video! I've tried in a shop the MXR and I found it nice, but the price tag was a bit too high for me. After your video I went for the cheapest one (and there's a boost in it!)
This is a fantastic demo. Very illuminating and instructive.
Thanks!
Dude, you are awesome. I love just about everything you do in these videos. Thank you!
Awesome demo as usual! Your method is truly the best way to evaluate similar types of pedals. I literally laughed out loud when I read, "Christ, is loud!", so thank you for that.
Ha! Thank you.
I love your approach........let me "hear" not watch you show off playing skills while trying to hear! Great video!!
Great video.im a golden horse user.love it with my telecaster and deluxe reverb.thanks for letting me know I made the right choice
Cheers
Reverend Hellbilly Which Golden Horse though - Mosky or Decibelics?
@@ThePedalBored mosky
Perfect video! Love it! Really surprise about the MXR, seems it will my first MXR on my board! :)
Glad to help!
These riffs are magical, I honestly cannot get enough of it!
I'm definitely getting that Mosky Golden Horse, if that's really the sound I need then I'm getting one of those higher end pedals later
I think this is basically a good plan.
TBH I guess for most practical purposes that thing does the job just as good. Like: in a band context, in a mix etc. The slightly harsher top end could even be a plus when using it live (and it's kind what you want from a Klon innit?).
Not to say that one of the dearer ones will feel and sound very nice.
I bet you will never look back.
I bought a cheap Korean SG and it sounds so good i stuck with it and when i tried a gibson i was like "yeah ok but it's litterally 15x more expensive and it. Barely sounds better at all"
@@Soldano999 best Les Paul I've played, a Tokai, best Strat, a Vintage, best SG, a Gibson funnily enough, tbh, unless getting 4K for a Gig, I don't turn up with a 4K+ Guitar!
You make the best pedal shootouts on youtube dude
Thank you! I really appreciate it.
The Pedal Bored np man. Do you daisy chain the pedals together or do you have like an actual power source?
braden rocha This one was a mixture of the two. Top row have separate power, bottom row daisy chained from one output. I use a Donner power supply so not isolated. So far no noise problems.
Thanks for doing this video. Great rundown.
Love the riff on this one!
Thanks! It's in a sort of This Is The Kit vibe I think.
All on at once was hilarious. Awesome demo man!
Awesome shootout! Love the Roald Dahl books on the background.
These pedals are the Oompa Loompas of the Klon world.
I would love for you to give a loop breakdown sometime. This tune is so good. My friend and I are attempting to break it down to jam with each other.
On a side note i have the MXR Sugar Drive and it is a fantastic pedal. The Sugar Drive and the Keeley Phat Mod are my two favorite drives that i own, both of which you have featured.
What a good job ! Thanks a lot. A french musician.
Thanks to your video I'll get a Mosky golden horse, great demo! I'll subscribe!
thought the mxr did the best overall re-creation. but in terms of overall "do i like the sound this pedal makes" i was actually quite taken by the Lil Pony. as you mention, if you want a (heh) workhorse that's going to last, definitely buy from a more established manufacturer, but the cheaper ones do have their place. as always a great review, honestly you basically set the standard for pedal shootouts my friend. appreciate your time
I've never tried a few of the newer affordable Klones, like the NUX, the Way Huge, and the TC one, but I've tried almost all the rest, as I'm a Klone freak. I've tried the Soul Food, which I hated, and was my least favorite of all. I like the Mosky Gold and Silver even more than it, but they are very low on my list too, as is the Sugar Drive. My favorites, that I've kept, are the Caline Medusa and Pegasus (the Medusa is the better of the two, IMO), the Joyo Tauren, and the Tone City Bad Horse. The others I have tried that I like less than those, but more than the Mosky, EHX, and MXR ones, are the Tone Bakery Creme Brulee, the two Chinese Centaur ones, one of them with the in/out jacks on the top, and one with the jacks on the side (that one is higher gain and more compressed, while the one with the top mounted jacks is lower gain and less compressed, more like the Pegasus), and the Xin Sound RM-10, which is very much like the Centaur with the side mounted jacks, and has the highest output of them although the Tauren is very high output too.
Thanks, this cleared up some things for me. I appreciate it!
Went for the Mxr. Thanks. And well done.
Great comparison. What about the buffer impedance from one pedal to the next? I think that would certainly effect any differences.
Bro. Honesty. Actually turning on all the pedals and then stacking gain sounds like an AMAZING outro for a song lmao.
Please come back 😂❤
golden/silver horse if you just want the clean. but the tumnus deluxe is the best version ive seen of them yet, because of the extra mid and bass knob for that bit of extra variety.
I have litterally watched this video about 6 times... I was not at all interested in a Klon, nor a clone of said Klon. That said, I just bought a Mosky Golden Horse for like... the price of a case of beer, with free shipping... That's GAS that anyone can afford. Merry X-mas to me! Great...GREAT video. Keep up the good work!
Same thing here. I somehow ended up here while looking for a RAT but ended up ordering the mosky golden horse before the video even ended.
Love the playing!
Thank you!
I must weigh in lol. I own the Decibelics- love it for classic rock and lighter stuff. I use the Mosky Golden Horse for my 80’s hair band stuff. Sometimes I need a little more gain (grit,fuzz,fizz,zapp,boom,”jape”) for some solos. Flying High Again by Ozzy is one of them. The roughness, or harshness of the Mosky works perfect for 80’s hair metal. BTW, I use a relatively low gain setting for the rhythm of flying high, so I need more gain for the solo-cause my talent booster pedal is broken.
Good work. Thanks for doing this!
Wow...that was a good video. I would love to see more nano-sized pedal video series of delay, reverb, etc.
The Mosky Audio Golden Horse nails it.
Nice bit o' noize at the end there!
Got the Mosky Gold and do like it, probably more than more expensive Marshall. However already there is something catching on the jackplug which means it's harder to take out and sometimes needs to be pulled out slightly to make sound. This after only a few months and maybe a couple of gigs where it was on s table so bear that in mind for longevity considerations.
Cheap n cheerful fun though and you can always buy two and still save
Dude. Easily the best pedal comparison videos around. Great work!
A cool tip about Mosky !!! Replace IC 7660 by the original 1044 and get a very creamy and round sound like the best Klons Centaurs.
Does it actually change the tone though?
Any videos on this?