4 Klon Style Pedals (Arc Effects Klone, EHX Soul Food, Mosky Golden Horse, Wampler Tumnus Deluxe)
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- A thorough comparison of four clones of the classic mythical overdrive with the magical diodes - the Klon Centaur.
Arc Effects Klone v2
Electro-Harmonix Soul Food
Mosky Golden Horse
Wampler Tumnus Deluxe
Gear:
Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster (both pickups)
EHX 720 Looper
Boss Katana 50w amp (Clean channel)
mic'd with a Sennheiser e609
into a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Recorded in GarageBand, edited in Final Cut Pro X
Dear every guitar player on TH-cam: THIS is how you do a pedal comparison. Superb!
Dear every commenter on TH-cam: THIS is how you do nice comments.
The Pedal Bored
Ain’t that the truth, brother!!
Exactly. The looper is the key.
Yep - dials don't have to be in exactly the same position - instead, compare where they have to be to get similar sounds (to show if it's possible to get similar sounds). And compare range of possible sounds by setting dials at extremes, one at a time. Play the same track through both pedals, switch back and forth... Good stuff.
Dear Every Confused Commenters: putting a cluttered multi-track snippet on a loop, removing any chance of dynamic interaction between the musician-instrument-effects, and ignoring the fact that the Klon is not a true bypass - yet putting it last in the chain - is not an optimal way of comparing the sonic attributes of these devices. It's lazy. If you want to know how well these devices perform, you have to go the full 9 yards and play a guitar with the device in the signal chain as they're intended to be used. Anything short of that is insufficient.
It's nice to see a shoot-out done correctly, i.e.: using a looped group of phrases.
I'm always surprised when comparisons are done with live play. It's inevitable that a guitarist will play differently when their ear is fresh, than after they've played a phrase half a dozen times. Of course, they may unconsciously play differently due to their expectations for a given pedal.
Using a looped set of phrases eliminates all that and levels the playing field. So, a tip o' the hat for your foresight and dedication to fair play.
Thanks! I like to be pedantically fair to all the pedals! Even the naughty Chinese knockoffs.
I haven't put two guitars into the same amp since the early 80's, so this is as inaccurate as a comparison could be. The two guitars make up for a completely saturation. Not that I mind, but its not accurate or done correctly by any means
@Lars Thomsen I’m not actually putting two guitars into the same amp, I’m recording the same guitar into a looper twice. Saturation implies a signal that overloads a circuit but a looper doesn’t have a higher and higher load each time you add a new overdub into it. It’s much more like the difference between playing a single note and a chord. I totally appreciate that it doesn’t seem right to some people to demo a pedal with overdubs, and there’s a ton of channels out there that don’t, but for me it’s a trade off between demoing the sound accurately, and having something to listen to that is more interesting and complex - less boring more enjoyable 😀
I’d also note that all my demos are about *comparing* similar pedals, not demoing them individually in isolation, so as long as the input to each pedal is essentially the same, the comparison is valid.
@@Heatfarmer I'm not talking about putting two different guitars into one amp at all. I'm talking about playing into two different effects pedals side-by-side. If you play live into one pedal, and then play a second time into the other pedal as a comparison, it's likely that you're playing will vary from time-to-time. It's inevitable that a person will play differently each time, according to what they expect to happen, and therefore taint the comparison. My point is to do what the guy at Decibelics did, and use a single phrase into a looper pedal, and then run an ABY pedal to send the signal into each of the two pedals being compared. That way, the same exact playing speed, volume, pick dynamics, etc, goes into both pedals being compared.
I apologize if I'm wrong oh, but I don't think you understood what I was saying. I'm complimenting you on using a a looper pedal. I'm not talking about running to separate guitars into one amplifier. What I'm saying is, badly done comparisons are the norm, where a person will have two pedals, and play live into one pedal, and then play live a second time into the other pedal. Each time they play it is inevitable that they're playing will be different and they will play according to what they expect the pedal to do. Of course this variation in there playing will taint the outcome of the comparison. So the only proper way to do a pedal comparison is to play a single phrase, or set of phrases, into a single looper pedal, and then play that loop into each effect pedal that's being compared. It is absolutely the only way to do a fair and accurate comparison.
Great demo / shoot out. I wish more people followed your setup when doing this kind of stuff - make it really easy to compare.
Thanks! I'm sure I stole the format from someone else though, so I can't really take the credit.
The Pedal Bored Well then, we wish more people would steal from the person you stole from then!
Agreed
Are you also knobs ?
@@schooldya. Knobs is his own special genius. I certainly stole something of the look of mine from him.
This may be one of the best pedal comparisons i've ever seen. thank you!
The best pedal comparison I have ever seen, and I watch a lot! Excellent and very informative. Overdrive is the hardest thing to nail! Spot on!
Great review. Not only the method and sounds but the artistic photography composition and layout. Thanks a thousand times!
I appreciate the book display, and the Chabon titles on this one! Nice detail. Thanks for making these videos and going thru so many settings.
Perhaps the best pedal comparison I have ever seen! I wish they were all like this!!! A true comparison! Spectacular!!!!!
Brilliant video, probably the best method of comparing pedals I’ve ever watched. Well done! Subbed.
Best pedal comparison I've seen of this type. Amazing job and entertaining too! Thanks!
Such fantastic production values, and the effort that's gone into engaging with and informing the viewer... bravo, keep them coming
Thank you! Hopefully these new vaccines will help get the World back to normal and I can start making them again instead of being a teacher’s assistant to my children 😆
This is by far the best video I've watched to date comparing these pedals. Thank you so much!
Still loving your videos mate. It is amazing how often I refer back to them as well. Your format and the comments absolutely rocks.
I shall publish a textbook! But with Harry Potter-style pictures that move and play sounds.
i’ve only just started watching your channel today but i’m already subbed. smth i really appreciate is that you’re really good at switching pedals at just the right time to get a totally unnoticeable switch between almost identical pedals
Just about the best pedal comparison I have ever seen. Well done sir.
If only all pedal reviews could be like this. Thanks, mate. Great work!
To be honest I was listening to the playing more than I was comparing the pedals.
Thanks! 😁
I agree, those frusciante-like lazy cruisy tunes were very distractingly good. would love to jam with you! (Sydney)
Very well done. Probably the best Klone comparison around. The playing was also very pleasant, important when you need to sit through it for 10 minutes.
I do try to make it not irritating to listen to for so long, so I'm glad you appreciated it.
I'm mad it took me this long to find your channel. this is my favorite way to see pedal demos now.
One of the best comparison videos out there... thanks for delivering such great content for us OCD pedal collectors...
Jim Hutchison Thanks! And as an OCD pedal collector, I recommend you go look at my OCD pedal comparison.
Very clever demo - bravo Sir. Out of all of them the Soul Food is the winner. It has a clarity about it that sounds better to my ears. I own one now and use it everyday and I can honestly say it's the sound I've always wanted out of a OD pedal. Enough drive and dynamics and yet I can still hear my guitar through the drive like a natural time amp break up.
Want to send the GH, their spring reverb, a Monoprice 5 watt and a Squier back in time to 15 year old me.
Great review, thanks.
Subscribed! This is such a great way to compare pedals. Love it.
Literally came back to enjoy the backing track. You rule, man!
Really enjoyed the format! great vid!
Finally a good sounding demo of Mosky golden horse... You just have to be intrigued by the price of that thing.
I just bought one recently, very creamy when dialed in. If you don't like it at $20, you might not like the clones, except for the Tumnus, that one is tweakable to suit many needs.
@@Majik53 I'll have to buy it one day. Would you give me an example of a creamy tone you had in mind? Like a song with a similar tone, because I wouldn't really describe anything I've yet heard of the golden horse as creamy. Thanks
I think by "creamy" he means "warm". Or maybe "transparent". Or maybe "minatory", "uxorius" or "ostrobogulous". All great adjectives to describe sonic properties that we can all agree on.
@@interruptor - Warm works.
@@interruptor This made me laugh so hard... Oh my..
Such a nice music loop.
I ordered a mosky right away on Ebay before the end. It does 95% of the job for 5% of the price basically.
I kick the front end of my Soldano with a Mosky too, I never feel like I got $200 less going on with it.
I like to watch this video when I get sad, those riffs really cheer me up ^^
Abso-bloody-damn-lutely, the most finely crafted pedal comparo! Subscribed. Thrilled! Binge-watching. 😎
Thoroughly enjoyed your video, really makes me feel justified in having bought not one, but TWO EHX Soul Foods 👍
Best pedal comparison of these types!
Always the best comparison vids! Great stuff as usual!
Aw shucks.
This is my new favourite pedal demo channel.
This is the way to do it.
The looper takes the bias out of the demo, I've seen presenters play more enthusiastically when they step on the more expensive pedal.
The pedals are going into a reasonably priced but decent sounding amp.
Best of all, the riffs aren't shredding or blues noodling, but are dynamic enough to really demonstrate the tones you can get from the pedals.
I just keep coming back to this video for the sick riff. So good!
Great vid, exactly the type of comparison I was looking for.
Man, your videos are GROWING un me!
I'm starting to look at the books!
This is probably the best comparison video I've ever seen, good job!
No More Pedals Very glad to hear it!
I bought an Electro Harmonix Soul Food when they first were available on the Market. Its the added ingredient stacked with my other OD pedals for that added magic. Great lead tones when paired with them
Nice work from an early adopter.
The soul food is the secret sauce in my rig. I run it into my Friedman BE 100 or my Marshal 1987x Plexi and it sounds amazing. I have nearly a dozen high end over drives and none compare to the soul food. And at $80 it's a no brainer.
Bought mine when they came out as well, 45$ brand new with a power adapter, best gear purchase ever. Probably used it on every single guitar track I've recorded since, current favourite application is a Blues Driver into the Soul Food, both at around 9'clock gain, sometimes even lower.
Another great shootout. Thank you for you continued diligence and effort put into your videos.
It's very nice to be appreciated.
This is absolutely fantastic!!
I haven’t seen any of your other vids, but you just got a new subscriber in me as a result of this.
Others have said it, but I have to echo their sentiments...this is exactly how all pedal comparisons should be done.
Not a bunch of talking, but rather back and forth over the same loop with enough time to listen and compare and decide for ourselves.
I appreciate the text as well...very informative!
You know for $18 on aliexpress, I’m going to have to pull the trigger on the Mosky. The least expensive of the bunch and really holds it own.
So what if it takes a month...it’s $18!!!
One of the most useful comparisons I've ever seen. Thanks a lot!
Zeljko Mihalic That’s very nice, thank you
Great format for these demos. So nice to get such good insight without having to endure a bunch mindless prattle. Thanks.
You just have to read a bunch of mindless prattle instead... :)
This is great. The repetition really gives the ear a chance to hear the differences.
I have seen this video lots of times because I enjoy so much the loop you played and your review. Great comparison of the clones. I really can understand the small differences of these clones. I myself am a happy owner of the mosky pedal and its very good indeed for the 18 euros I payed sometime ago...🎸
For sure the best format; really nice job on this video
Thanks!
Another brilliant video, cannot praise your method and notations highly enough. You really do test these things perfectly - no focus on shredding, just playing simple riffs, twiddling and direct comparisons. Would love to see you do some Tubescreamer-type pedals - Wampler Clarksdale, Maxon OD808, Maxon OD808X, TS9, TS808, EQD Palisades and things like that.
COINCIDENCE! I have a Tube Screamer video shot and lined up to edit! It's all versions of the TS808 though - an Ibanez, Mooer, EHX and the Dunes.
Plus a separate TS808 / TS9 comparison.
I just need to get round to editing them...
@@ThePedalBored Can't wait for that . I own a TS9 with a 1981 Serial number... I was given it 3rd hand from a friend around '89 . It's been around the block but sounds wicked , especially with a Strat. I've never bought another Tubescreamer ,so I have no idea if mine is any "better" or "worse" than a reissue or a Bad Monkey or a Joyo ..or any other Green pedals 😁👍
I have the Mosky for about 10 months now. Sounds beautiful!
bought it too. great little pedal!!
Pleased to say my son convinced me to get one (what could I loose at the price!). Also pleased my son is playing again, but that’s another story...
You do the best videos I've been begging forever for someone to play the EXACT SAME riff when they run through different setting and all I see are the opposite. Glad you came up in my feed you have a new subscriber here!
Richard Nemeth Thanks! Apologies for the real lack of content recently...
Easily the best pedal demo I’ve seen yet ! :)
Thanks! (Just so long as this isn't the first pedal demo you've ever seen.)
Most effective way to compare pedals. Excellent job
This is by far the best pedal comparison on youtube, suscribed!
Robert Matthews Thanks! Nothing new coming at the moment, but once the world’s back to normal and my kids are back to school and I have a little more spare time...
Nice Job. Best comparison video I've seen/heard.
Thanks, that was a great video. It was straight to the point and the format made the comparisons plain to hear.
This is a great comment - straight to the point and much appreciated.
Wow, that's probably the best pedal comparison I've ever seen and heard! 🖤
Now that is too kind.
Excellent video and great loop song!!!
They are all very good pedals!!!
I personally own the Soul Food,the mini Tumnus and now the Deluxe and I think they Wampler ones are my favorite ones!
The mini is pure magic but the Deluxe has a fantastic killer EQ section so it works great with different guitars or amps,to have the buffer button option is a real winner and the extra gain switch. All these things definitely make the Tumnus Deluxe a super versatile overdrive with so many cool tools!!!
Very clean video, good format to showcase the pedals.😁
Just found this channel. Its quickly becoming my favorite pedal oriented channel
Thank you! It's on hiatus until my family's world is back to normal but fingers crossed for 2022...
This is how all pedal comparison should be done, great job!,,
Excellent TH-cam comments, exhibit A, see above.
Dude. I have just discovered your channel. Not sure how you don't have 100 000 subscribers but sure it wont be long. Love the format and the content. You show real class and style in your presentation style. The beauty found in simplicity of design is a hard one to get right and you have definitely cracked it.
Thanks!
I think I don't have loads of subscribers because I don't post videos often enough. It's such a chore... :)
Great demo and great taste! Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is an amazing book.
Just ordered the Mosky. Thanks for the great review!
This is a great way to adjust your overall pedal board too. Looping for days and free hands to adjust and get it just right. Genius.
Autumn Equinox No YOU are!
This was the video I've been waiting for ever since I found this channel
Ha! I'm glad to have finally given you what you wanted. Two more Klon-related videos in the pipeline too. You'll probably have Klon overload.
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is one of my favorite novels. Great choice.
Most comprehensive Klon test ever , thanks.
This is an excellent demonstration and comparison btw
Maybe the best pedal vid on the tube ive seen so far. It's in the format. No talking🎉
Outstanding demo! Thanks for posting.
Incredible comparison. Nice work.
Hey man, I just finished watching all of your videos. Besides being the best, in my opinion, in shootout setups, the music you create is great. This one's my favorite. Being a Frusciante fan, this feels like a song from his solo albums. Got to comment this. You are great. Thank you.
Thank you! I guess I need to go find me some solo Frusciante then. I'm not a big RHCP fan - but maybe his solo stuff will win me over.
This is a great little jam track you're testing the pedals with, well done. Great video, thanks!
Thank you - I compose all the demo loops myself so it’s nice to hear that people like them!
@@ThePedalBored Your loops rock!
Love the sound you get from your Boss Katana!
I'm doing nothing special with it - it's just a great little amp!
Best pedal comparison I've ever seen. Thanks!
dan b The comment after yours is ‘one of the best’ so I think you win.
I just got into your videos...man THIS is how you compare pedals!! I could pretty much ditch any other guitar channel I've subscribed!
Now THAT is how to make a comparison video! 🧡 Thanks!
Just subbed.
Great job, man. One of the best on YT. Great content, good quality and a very nice format. Keep it up.
Cheers
Thanks!
That loop sounds Frusciante-ish! Nice! Also great shootout, as always!
Yeah, I bookmarked it so I can come back and just listen.
The mini Wampler tumnus is my personal favorite, even a little more than the J rocket klones. Its just got everything good about the Klon but while keeping the low end intact.
I also love how he fit like the biggest pedal in the tiniest box.
Surface mount components vs hand wired, point to point construction... still sounds great, though!
@@buzzcrumhunger7114 The original klon is pcb, not point to point
@@buzzcrumhunger7114 Even still the board is like half the size of the enclosure, its kinda a waste of space, the KTR is more ergonomic.
@@krispatel1 but uses discrete full size components not surfice mounted devices
@@jacobbrown1690 That doesn't affect the sound
I really like your testing method. Congratulations!
Great comparison very well done! Subscribed!
For me the Tumnus is the clear winner!
The Tumnus Deluxe from Wampler sounds identical to the old original klone, but has a lot more options than the original! Brian made a better, further developed version out of the old klon original. The Tumnus Deluxe is the new STANDARD among the klones.
Do you expect anything else from Brian. I bet that pedal is amazing. Ha, but for the money just my 2 cents listening, it would depend on your current collection.... Especially if you have like 3-6 other wampler pedals, the soul food is a great deal for 59 dollars, if you have the money 100% the Tummus, we agree.
This is how a comparison is done. Thank you
Got the Golden Horse - no complaints at all having used it live a fair few times now - some say harsh - I say aggressive :)
Great work men! amazing comparison!
Great comparison, as always!
Best quality pedal shootout vids on this site! And great playing aswell! keep it up dude!
I don't even play guitar, yet, but I'm saving this one for the cool music. Great vibe here and I may have to start playing.
Ha! Thank you. How come you were watching...?!
@@ThePedalBored I love guitar and follow several channels. Music Is Win just posted a comparison video on the Klon ($5000!!) and your video showed up as recommended. His was more touchy feely about the emotions of the thing. Yours was much more like the old Jack Conte EHX vids. God, I need to learn...
@@navy2af I hope all of this universe accessible on TH-cam blesses you, the day you decide to pick up a guitar!
great video! I'm looking for a klon type pedal, and the way you demo these helps a lot with understanding!
Glad to help!
Best pedal shoot out video I've seen so far.
Thank you!
I like how the comparison was done here. Pedals can get one far in achieving a tone. But there is a final ingredient of playing pedals through an actual amp and cabinet that really breathes life into a tone (really pushing the amp too brings out the sonic richness that isn't there at practice amp or headphone level).
greatest pedal comparison and review ever !!! thanks dude.
Dude - THANKS.
i see comments on pedal comparisons all the time saying “now THIS is how you do it. you sir, have earned a subscriber!” (to a channel that barely uploads), but i am not sure why in the several years since this upload that other pedal comparisons have not replicated this exact video. this is probably the most useful and helpful pedal comparison video i have watched, totally eliminates the bias while also explaining details of the sound along the way. excellent stuff.
No regrets! Really great video! Bought the Soul Food for $78.00 (slighty pre-owned) from L&M here in Vancouver and your video sealed the deal. Thanks very much for a really good way to compare two pedals. It doesn't get any better than that! ss
EHX make such good pedals at such good value.
I've owned a Soulfood for a couple of years. Great pedal and you can select buffer or true bypass internally 👍
@Dwarf From The North Remove the rear cover (four screws), look for a miniature switch that selects true/buffered bypass.
You can, and I forgot to mention it!
@@slideguitarist Thanks for answering, I didn't see Dwarf's question before 😉👍
@@ThePedalBored lol 😊👌
@Dwarf From The North Sorry I didn't see your question before ! Yes, you know now lol, it's simple , but if I can offer one tip ; always use a conventional screwdriver ,so you don't over tighten the screws and remember that Philips & Pozidrive heads aren't the same 😉👍
That Tumnus is something else 😍
Great demo. I also commend you on your reading material - big fan of Chabon’s work.
I've only actually read Wonder Boys (I loved the film), and a very little bit of Kavalier & Clay. Shhh. Don't tell anyone.
Excellent and very helpful video - thank you very much!!! 👍
I absolutely love my Tumnus delux!!! Lot of different tonal options...
It's definitely an EXCELLENT pedal.
Great demo. You have just gained a subscriber!
classicaljames Thank you!
Excellent review of these fine pedals. They all sound good to me. I personally use the Tumnus Original 3 knob pedal. I call it my salt, and pepper pedal which rarely if ever gets turned off. I just do occasional adjustments in between songs mostly. I like to try the Deluxe Version at using only slightly more real estate on my board.