I have found that Sta Bil Winter anti gel provides super gel protection and adds significant lubrication and water dispersion to boot at the best price per gallon of fuel. IIRC it was $15 per 250 gal treated fuel. Most others are twice the cost or more.
Thank you for the info. I had bought some anti-gel, but was still hesitant to use it in my JD 1025R. I will add it in today! Appreciate all of your useful tips and help!
Diesel number 1 I get for winter here in Wisconsin and also I mix in a anti jell also. With mixing anti jell if it’s below zero you need to double the mix ratio
zmann422 #1 should not gel till -60 or colder, it’s the same as Jet-A fuel before it became ULSD mandated. It’s not going to hurt to add the additive but the most it would do with #1 fuel is prevent icing from moisture.
I live in an environment where it routinely goes to -40 F. in winter and sometimes lower. I use #1 diesel and anti-gel in the winter. It is truly discouraging to go to your tractor (stored in and unheated shed) and find the fuel system gelled solid. I keep a spare fuel filter and Diesel 911 on hand for "just in case". I also have an oil pan heater and battery blanket on the tractor that I keep plugged in all winter. Folks on the North Slope of Alaska use regular #2 diesel all year, but they only turn their machines off for maintenance in heated buildings. Apparently when the engines are running, they generate enough heat to keep the fuel from gelling, but then who has more diesel fuel than the oil companies?
KUBOTA guy here just gave this a thumb's up! Am confused about whether water dispersers are good or bad-have heard filter media is treated to repel water so it can collect in the sediment bowl and so you want an additive that coalesces water. I dunno! I use Hot Shot's treatment because it ranked top overall in the Project Farm tests. Have since heard that Stanadyne performance additive helps coalesce water to be removed by sediment bowl and filter. Anyone know?
Thank you for all your hard work in presenting us these videos. I never tire of watching your channel as I find the videos intriguing. In three years I am retiring and moving south and we are going to try our hand at a hobby farm just for fun not expecting to make a profit other than to feed ourselves some vegetables. So for the next three years I will be watching videos on tractors of the different types of tractors and all the implements and I like how you think.
Do you recall when the idiots at the factory decided it was a good idea to turn a 350 Chevrolet block into a Diesel engine? I bought one in a Buick. It survived 2 winters in Missouri because of Lucas treatment. Then I learned the lesson about extended high speed driving 70-80 mph. Beautiful luxurious car. Horrible engine. Before Lucas treatment it was lucky to start at 35-40 degrees. After Lucas those cold days meant nothing to start ups.
#1 diesel is good to minus 60, # 2 starts to Gel around +10. A 50/50 blend of the two is good to about -15. Ask the delivery driver that is dropping the fuel when you see them, they know what fuel they are dropping. Those additives will help but they don’t significantly lower the pour point of the fuel.
Also consider cetane rating. I believe Yanmar, and I suspect other enigma manufacturers, recommend a cetane of 45 or higher. Most USA diesel fuel is around 40 (min by law?). In Michigan, Meijer sells only premium diesel fuel rated at 45 minimum. Also includes anti-gel. Cetane is not indicated at the pump like octane and it’s rare to find a seller that knows the cetane rating of their fuel. With premium, engine runs smoother, quieter, and easier starting. Some say better mileage but I’ve not seen that.
Just had to rescue my Junk Deere 4044 from the woods. I had the fuel treated but the fuel pickup screen froze up in the tank. Long story short I found my fuel gauge/sending unit had a bad seal and was allowing rain water to enter the tank. Nice design Deere, way to almost kill a 3 year old tractor.
Tractors in detached un heated garage but use Hot Shots Secret Winter Anti Gel, never had an issue. Forgot to mention, I'm in Western NY (Buffalo) for perspective.
Thanks for the information. I have a bacterial black looking stuff on the inside of my fuel cap and inside the fuel pipe going into the tank any idea what that is and how to treat it?
Thank you great tips same principle as home heating oil tank outside. I always add some kerosene to our oil tank in the Winter. How long does diesel fuel last with additives?
Howell's anti gell and power booster. I've used it in upper New York during cold snaps with windchills of -60. Diesel is not just waxy it is notoriously wet carrying H2O. It is many states that decide what their winter mix is. Diesel is the first fuel to come off production lines of crude oil. Gasoline is the most refined of the production lines of a refinery. This is what I was told from someone I knew at the refinery.
@Tyler Stanley so true when I was a kid Diesel was .75$ per gallon to gas being .95$ per gallon. Then it flipped when they started producing Diesel pickup trucks.
Not completely true, the bottom is tar like used for asphalt and the top naptha and gaseous vapor, often used to heat up the incoming crude. Gasoline comes off in the distillation tower below naptha.
Windchill only affects Living creatures, ambient temps for equipment. ~ 20* D2 starts to cloud, and gelling ~10*. Most popular diesel stations with frequent turnover will look at weather predictions and do their ordering. Find a place that has fuel contracts for buses and tow trucks pretty good shot U will not have fuel issues. U can go kero route too just be mindful that Kero is a drier fuel and should have a lubricity additive when using it.
Any advice here? My JD compact tractor (which is new to me) wouldn't even try to start this morning. It got to 4-below last night. I thought an engine block heater would cure everything (heats the antifreeze), but nope. So I suspect my fuel is gelled (?) My question: when it warms back up again to, say, 50 degrees, will it "fix" itself and start up? Or do you think my fuel filter is trashed and would need replaced (even though it's a fairly new filter)? Of course, I will add anti-gel to the tank now, but just wondering how to get out of my present predicament.
Thanks for the great videos. You really helped me decide what I wanted in a compact utility tractor by watching your videos. Also a shout out to TTWT too. Of course it was green and a 15 3033r.
An inexpensive way to protect your diesel machine and save a big headache! Buy diesel anti-gel treatment (preventative) here: amzn.to/386osbs or amzn.to/384wCkw Buy emergency diesel treatment if gelling has already occurred here: amzn.to/384VKay
Thanks for the breakdown information. Northern MN here and like you, we feel the chill.
Helpful video for sure 👍
Simple, straight forward video but very helpful
I have found that Sta Bil Winter anti gel provides super gel protection and adds significant lubrication and water dispersion to boot at the best price per gallon of fuel. IIRC it was $15 per 250 gal treated fuel. Most others are twice the cost or more.
Thank you for the info. I had bought some anti-gel, but was still hesitant to use it in my JD 1025R. I will add it in today! Appreciate all of your useful tips and help!
Very welcome!
Diesel number 1 I get for winter here in Wisconsin and also I mix in a anti jell also. With mixing anti jell if it’s below zero you need to double the mix ratio
zmann422 #1 should not gel till -60 or colder, it’s the same as Jet-A fuel before it became ULSD mandated. It’s not going to hurt to add the additive but the most it would do with #1 fuel is prevent icing from moisture.
I live in an environment where it routinely goes to -40 F. in winter and sometimes lower. I use #1 diesel and anti-gel in the winter. It is truly discouraging to go to your tractor (stored in and unheated shed) and find the fuel system gelled solid. I keep a spare fuel filter and Diesel 911 on hand for "just in case". I also have an oil pan heater and battery blanket on the tractor that I keep plugged in all winter. Folks on the North Slope of Alaska use regular #2 diesel all year, but they only turn their machines off for maintenance in heated buildings. Apparently when the engines are running, they generate enough heat to keep the fuel from gelling, but then who has more diesel fuel than the oil companies?
Good info, thank you!
Wow!
Crazy to think people actually leave stuff running all winter long but that's just part of life in the super cold I guess
KUBOTA guy here just gave this a thumb's up! Am confused about whether water dispersers are good or bad-have heard filter media is treated to repel water so it can collect in the sediment bowl and so you want an additive that coalesces water. I dunno! I use Hot Shot's treatment because it ranked top overall in the Project Farm tests. Have since heard that Stanadyne performance additive helps coalesce water to be removed by sediment bowl and filter. Anyone know?
Thank you for all your hard work in presenting us these videos. I never tire of watching your channel as I find the videos intriguing. In three years I am retiring and moving south and we are going to try our hand at a hobby farm just for fun not expecting to make a profit other than to feed ourselves some vegetables. So for the next three years I will be watching videos on tractors of the different types of tractors and all the implements and I like how you think.
Do you recall when the idiots at the factory decided it was a good idea to turn a 350 Chevrolet block into a Diesel engine?
I bought one in a Buick.
It survived 2 winters in Missouri because of Lucas treatment.
Then I learned the lesson about extended high speed driving 70-80 mph.
Beautiful luxurious car.
Horrible engine.
Before Lucas treatment it was lucky to start at 35-40 degrees.
After Lucas those cold days meant nothing to start ups.
Yes i use additive year round in my tractor. It keeps fuel system kleen an lubercated
Good idea!
#1 diesel is good to minus 60, # 2 starts to Gel around +10. A 50/50 blend of the two is good to about -15.
Ask the delivery driver that is dropping the fuel when you see them, they know what fuel they are dropping. Those additives will help but they don’t significantly lower the pour point of the fuel.
Good stuff! I don't often run into the diesel delivery drivers so that could be a little while ;)
Hot shots anti gel is what i'm using this winter
I haven't used that one before.
That’s the one I’m buying. Great reviews on other videos
Also consider cetane rating. I believe Yanmar, and I suspect other enigma manufacturers, recommend a cetane of 45 or higher. Most USA diesel fuel is around 40 (min by law?). In Michigan, Meijer sells only premium diesel fuel rated at 45 minimum. Also includes anti-gel. Cetane is not indicated at the pump like octane and it’s rare to find a seller that knows the cetane rating of their fuel. With premium, engine runs smoother, quieter, and easier starting. Some say better mileage but I’ve not seen that.
Just had to rescue my Junk Deere 4044 from the woods. I had the fuel treated but the fuel pickup screen froze up in the tank. Long story short I found my fuel gauge/sending unit had a bad seal and was allowing rain water to enter the tank. Nice design Deere, way to almost kill a 3 year old tractor.
Oil refineries have summer and winter specs for diesel. Works off what we call a pour point spec.
Yes they do, thanks for sharing!
Tractors in detached un heated garage but use Hot Shots Secret Winter Anti Gel, never had an issue. Forgot to mention, I'm in Western NY (Buffalo) for perspective.
Great Wings too
Thanks for the information. I have a bacterial black looking stuff on the inside of my fuel cap and inside the fuel pipe going into the tank any idea what that is and how to treat it?
Thank you great tips same principle as home heating oil tank outside. I always add some kerosene to our oil tank in the Winter. How long does diesel fuel last with additives?
Kero up to 50%
@@mikeholubek4419New Jersey's Winters not as bad as Michigan. 5 gals Keri last few years.
I just added mine this afternoon!
Nice!
Just remember to roughly double dosage with bio diesel and/or below zero.
Didn't know that, good advice!
Thanks - good reminder for folks. I always use a conditioner in the winter - never had a problem. Cheers!
Hope you're stayin' warm GP! Looks like you have plenty of firewood! :)
Howell's anti gell and power booster. I've used it in upper New York during cold snaps with windchills of -60. Diesel is not just waxy it is notoriously wet carrying H2O. It is many states that decide what their winter mix is. Diesel is the first fuel to come off production lines of crude oil. Gasoline is the most refined of the production lines of a refinery. This is what I was told from someone I knew at the refinery.
Good insight Don. Thanks so much!
@@GoodWorksTractors your Welcome.
@Tyler Stanley so true when I was a kid Diesel was .75$ per gallon to gas being .95$ per gallon. Then it flipped when they started producing Diesel pickup trucks.
Not completely true, the bottom is tar like used for asphalt and the top naptha and gaseous vapor, often used to heat up the incoming crude. Gasoline comes off in the distillation tower below naptha.
Windchill only affects Living creatures, ambient temps for equipment.
~ 20* D2 starts to cloud, and gelling ~10*.
Most popular diesel stations with frequent turnover will look at weather predictions and do their ordering.
Find a place that has fuel contracts for buses and tow trucks pretty good shot U will not have fuel issues. U can go kero route too just be mindful that Kero is a drier fuel and should have a lubricity additive when using it.
As always; honest, truthful, and helpful.
About adding Kerozine?
Any advice here? My JD compact tractor (which is new to me) wouldn't even try to start this morning. It got to 4-below last night. I thought an engine block heater would cure everything (heats the antifreeze), but nope. So I suspect my fuel is gelled (?) My question: when it warms back up again to, say, 50 degrees, will it "fix" itself and start up? Or do you think my fuel filter is trashed and would need replaced (even though it's a fairly new filter)? Of course, I will add anti-gel to the tank now, but just wondering how to get out of my present predicament.
Who would thumbs down this?
I haven't shown a Kubota in awhile. That really gets under some people's skin :)
Thanks for the great videos. You really helped me decide what I wanted in a compact utility tractor by watching your videos. Also a shout out to TTWT too. Of course it was green and a 15 3033r.
Can you do a video about how tier 4 pertains to compact and subcompact tractors.
Very good video. What size is the John Deere in the video? Is that your personal tractor?
Thanks! It is my personal tractor for now. It's a 4066r.
Can you use to much additive?
Good info thanks
Thanks Shawn!
good vid
Seafoam!!
Yeah, Seafoam is a good one too. Nice to hear from you John!
@@GoodWorksTractors Looks like you've been busy! I can't keep up with you! I use the seafoam for diesels year round! It's good stuff!!
Put your hands down-your not a Conductor! And-we're here for GOOD information; not another sales pitch!
Yeah, who does this guy think he is anyways?
6th
Takin' a nap?
@@GoodWorksTractors ....or vacuuming leaves....lol
Haha, wanna vacuum mine?
@@GoodWorksTractors Sure ! Lol
1st
Nice work J-Dub
An inexpensive way to protect your diesel machine and save a big headache!
Buy diesel anti-gel treatment (preventative) here: amzn.to/386osbs or amzn.to/384wCkw
Buy emergency diesel treatment if gelling has already occurred here: amzn.to/384VKay