It's Amazing what you can Accomplish with a Box Blade
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- Digging a swale with a box blade. John Deere 2038R and frontier BB2060 box blade
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Well done and the box blade is one of the most overlooked tools !
We keep one on a farm tractor year around for grading , pushing snow and sometimes I follow up after the bulldozer with it . Great tool !
I’m glad the tractor content didn’t stop after you got the skid steer.
Definitely not. I ran the tractor again today on a job
Thanks for watching
You're a good neighbor! Mission accomplished. Hugs to Y'all Ü
Thanks
Nicely done Brock. Always enjoy seeing what you have going on and I'm really interested in the multi-phase pond fix! So far so good
Thanks
It is coming along
Remember, those pans cut both ways. Every time you back up with your blade in the air, you are wasting fuel. And don’t forget to use your rippers, they loosen it up so you can cut easier. We used Massey Ferguson wheel tractors and blades to grade with commercially, and it those box graders are really the ticket for tight areas. Also, did you shoot it for fall before you began? Sorry, I don’t wanna be second guessing you, I’m an old dozer hand and used to push dirt crews, so automatically I’m like what can we do better? Good job for a little tractor like that, remember moving dirt is a thinking man’s game, do the job three times in your head before you put a blade in the ground. 💪🙏🤟 be safe out there!
If you like wrecking your 3 point hitch then yes working the box in reverse is a great way to save fuel.
@@atodaso1668 I'm talking about commercial grading tractors man, follow along with your class dude
@@dozerboy67your first sentence was basically telling him to use the back blade in reverse. Had nothing to do with commercial equipment.
@@georgea6403one of those boomers that takes any opportunity to talk about themselves and tell you how much more experience they have while not actually being very helpful “I actually was talking about totally different grade commercial equipment that the guy in the video isn’t even using man!”
Nice job. The box blade is a very effective tool. Like others have stated, not seen the weights inside the box blade before, but it looks like they worked well there. Now you are going to have me scrounging around the farm to see if there are any small spare weights around to add to mine.
I bought the suitcase weights thinking I was going to use a weight bracket as a ballast but I really don’t do that very often. I like using the box blade as a ballast but it’s not really heavy enough which is why I started putting the weight on it.
It really does seem to help it dig in too
Thanks for watching.
Put an overflow pipe on one end of the dam, where it discharges toward the creek. Use a backhoe or mini ex. Then find any soft spots or leaky areas. Dig it out, then pack it back in.
Nice work with the grader box. My favorite implement for sure. I like the weights and the tilt cylinder. Slick.
I really enjoy your teaching.
Thanks for watching
why i like your channel my friend you don’t care to try different and new things, and love watching the john deere equipment work, got my 2022 john deere 1025r last week and i absolutely love that tractor!!!
Awesome. 1025 is a lot of machine in a small package
Buddy is a professional with that machine!
Thanks for watching. Having a top and tilt kit on the three-point really helps. Also hanging some weights on the box blade make it dig better.
I love the parallel mechanical linkage on the loader.
You are absolutely right, the box blade is a very versatile implement. I hear guys complaining about them not working right but I always write that off to lack of experience. When you think about the number of variables to consider it is easy to understand why you need experience. Angle right and left and back and front, moisture content of the soil, whether you are pushing or pulling. Mine has never let me down and I have built a lot of road with it.
Okay, the purpose of a swale is to make a gradual dip in the ground where one can walk across it without tripping, so now your HALF done. Now tilt the blade the other way and do the other half next to that deep plow furrow you left! It will look remarkably better after a second cut, then seeding fescue and you're done!
Yeah, I have done several that way but after starting i realized I shouldn’t remove any more of the bank. This started because of a leaky damn
Looks good to me...that little tractor puts in great work.
Yes sir
Thanks for watching
Good news is it looked like dirt was fairly dry so maybe the dam isn't leaking too much. Good job helping neighbor.
Thanks
Nice work, so far. Trying to be a good neighbor is often overlooked. I like your 3 step plan.
Thanks
My girlfriends property has the same problem, neighbors day. I was leaking in her yard is a soaking mess. Even had the DEP out, and he was told he had to fix it but since he has too much money and it’s basically the mayor of our rural town, he’s not fixing it. What a jerk.
Looks like it will work out great
Good work man and great video. I’d consider adding an a scraper blade to your arsenal. I just got a new one that tilts too. You can set those aggressive angles in seconds. Having said that, I switched to a middle buster for building swale’s. Works amazing, have a perfect swale in like two passes and done.
What is a “middle buster”?
@@zanepaxton7452 aka layoff or potato plow
Nice job
New follower here. Nice job. I need to install a drainage ditch as well. I’ve never tried it, but there is a first time for everything. Good job.
Thanks for watching and good luck with your ditch
Ive got a top n tilt on my l4060. Really nice high quality cylinders and hoses. I got OEM.
Good video. A sure method to seal up the pond is pasture pigs on it. Toss feed into the leaky areas.
Appreciate the video, it looks good!
From experience, as soon as you're confident that the pitch is correct and proven to work, you'll need to get seed on it or in the near future you'll have a deep ugly trench that's more problems than solutions. Also the water will be moving fast at the end of that trench. That might be a concern?? Slowing in down with big rocks or dispersing with couple diversion ditches could be needed.
Trial and error 🙂
Thanks for giving me a couple more things to worry about… Kidding
I definitely do need to go back over there and put a little more work on it
Looks good
Thank you
Maybe consider running a deep trench on your side of the property line and put in an underground "fence" of 6 mil plastic. Earthwork damns are usually layered with a core of clay to prevent infiltration. Great work with the box blade, I'm going to have to ad weights to my box similar to yours.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I find those weights help it dig in and when it’s just riding on the back as a ballast I like having them there
pretty neat what all a box blade can do. It seems like the fence side of the swale has a big drop off. could you cut that side down so it's more gradual?
Great work mate.. you didn't remove a lot of material plus it wasn't wet your dam should be fine.. use a laser next time less grade has so many benefits
I think a grader blade would have finished that off just right. Good work and thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching
Watching you with that box blade reminds me of my project for the day. We had a storm that knocked down a bunch of trees on my property. One big oak tree is laying right on top of my box blade. I had set it down out back to make room for my sawmill operation. Apparently, I chose the wrong spot! That big old tree has it driven halfway into the ground! I'm hoping that there is no damage. Those things are built pretty tough, but it must have taken a hard blow to drive it that far into the ground. I'll find out in a bit. Great video!
Sorry you have to deal with that. The story made for a good laugh though. Gotta believe it'll come out of the ground straight and true.
Sounds like it got hit with a lot of weight
Hope it isn’t damaged
@@soscattered6126 Once I sawed the tree into chunks my tractor could handle, I uncovered the box blade and yanked it out of the ground. Still like brand new! A little scuffed paint is all, and that wasn't even down to bare metal.
@@RockhillfarmYT It's still in perfect condition.
Depending on if it was a cheap or a name brand hd woods
Love watching these videos, never thought about the weights on the box blade. Great idea, can’t believe I never thought about it.
What’s the box mounted to your iMatch hitch?
Thanks. The weights on the box blade make it a better ballast and help it dig in
Those boxes are chain boxes from Boltonhooks.com
Thanks for watching
i built golf courses in the 80s .... hydraulic center-link and on one side another cylinder for tilt , i saw a setup also once where you could raise and lower the ripping teeth. had some very good operators that could do wonders and put tractors in places few would attempt thats all they did so they were good but not everybody had a eye for it ,, no different than a steel rake.
What’s the best hydraulic link IYO. I’m getting some soon.
I like your style of videos with the documentary talking to let use know what is going on thanks just subbed
Thanks
So you're 'gonna help your neighbor out' by not allowing your leaky dam to trespass on his property by trenching onto his property? Mighty generous of you
Use the skid steer to cut swales.
How did you work out the flat level for the swale?
Damn that leaky dam!
I’ve never seen (or, never noticed) the suitcase weights inside of the box blade before. Is that a Brock original idea? 💡 or is it designed to do that? Cool. -- J.Andre.
I think I may have seen someone else do that in a video but I can’t remember who or where
Adding the weights makes the box blade a better ballast and it also helps it dig in
The lowest part is now on the road you have to use to get back there. It may get real soft as water fills up your swale.
How long has the pond been there? Longer then you and your neighbor?
Good job. I’ll be doing this next to my new driveway soon. Probably use the box blade and bucket as well. Are you in Rock Hill, SC? Dallas, NC here. Keep it up
Rock hill is the name of his place, and you tube channel. He is in Kansas.
@@rickvaughan8993 gotcha. Just wondered if his name was related to the town of Rock Hill. Thanks
Yeah, a lot of people guess I’m in the town rockhill but it’s a name for the property because we have huge boulders up on the hill
Thank you for watching
Good video. I like your “self evaluation” method. It makes a lot of sense. I have a similar project, albeit smaller in size. How did you determine the grade, to make sure the water flows where you want it to? Did you just eyeball it?
I know it’s hard to tell in the video but it’s clearly grading downhill already so I just followed that
@@RockhillfarmYT Thanks. My project is not as apparent, and it’s in my yard, so I’m trying to minimize the area i grade. I guess I’ll be ok using the staking method, but was contemplating renting or buying a laser.
You need to look at a nice box blade like KW, Gannon or cammond instead of the cheap lightweight box blade. You would be amazed at what you could do. My 6' KW weighs 1800 lbs. It uses 3/8" steel end plates.
Thanks for sharing
Damm!
I may have to go back and watch some of your previous pond videos. Where was the overflow/spillway on the original pond?
On another note, down here they call any man-made pond a tank, and most have a spillway on one side of the dam or the other. After a heavy rain, you'd hear the ranchers say, "my tank ran around", which simply means the water went over the spillway!
“Tanks.” And you all also call any and all liquid carbonated beverages “cokes” and you gotta put “bar” before “ditch.” Lol.
@@silverbackag9790 Short for stock tank. Yup, bar ditches!
Originally the pond had no overflow set up
The bank that I’ve mainly been moving dirt on this week was just lower than the other sides and it spilled out there and washed down the neighbors driveway
have a question could you of trenched it with a ditchwitch about 24 deep and tiled it ?
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Putting in a piece of tile would solve the problem, good work
Right, that is for my side of the fence
No drainage at the border of the road will cause destruction during the raining season.
This will sound crazy. But look into using pigs to fix a leaking pond. It works and you get bacon as a reward 😋 😆
I really appreciate your honesty here about not knowing if you did the right thing. How did it turn out? Is the dam keaking worse? How is the water draining? Any erosion issues,
Cool vid. I subb'd
It’s doing good. This was just the beginning of a long series of upgrades I did.
Here’s the full video.
CRAZY Pond Transformation - We Built an Island, Bridge, and Windmill
th-cam.com/video/yYv5-m_nsqs/w-d-xo.html
Looks like you did a great job as far as the damn leaking go to Hometown Acres on TH-cam and check-out how he fixed his pain from leaking
Yeah, I mentioned that in my first video about the leak. I may get the same product if it continues to be a problem
Thanks for watching
I always thought there should be a "V" shaped bucket for trenching or making swales
I would have put in a French drain. Dig a trench and fill it with rock.
Hey Brock, how does the box blade do with no tilting? I'm looking to just scrape the grass off an area to make a driveway. I have a back blade, but it's definitely not working well. Just wondering if a box blade would be worth buying.
Yeah, you can peel all the grass off and make a dirt trail with the box blade. I only needed it to angle because I was on a slope One Direction and I wanted to cut in the other direction
I hang the suitcase weights on it to make it bite in harder
Thanks for watching
@@RockhillfarmYT, thanks for the reply. Keep up the videos
Thanks
Is the box tilt function something you can add on to any blade or is integrated into that particular one?
The tilt is not a feature of the box blade, it is accomplished by adding a cylinder to the three point of your tractor. Here’s a video on how I set mine up
Top and Tilt Install - This is a Game Changer 💥💥💥
th-cam.com/video/wE6QXHZRAIM/w-d-xo.html
Would you please provide more information on the "tilt kit"?
Top and Tilt Install - This is a Game Changer 💥💥💥
th-cam.com/video/wE6QXHZRAIM/w-d-xo.html
You’re on his property! Move that entire damn pond over 30 feet and put the ditch on YOUR property. You’re taking advantage of nice neighbors
Hey Brock. What weight suitcase weights are you using on the box blade? Does the extra weight make a good difference?
Those are 42 pound weights just because that’s what I already have.
I like it for extra ballast, but it also helps the blade dig in better.
All you need is an 1% grade and you're golden. Anything else is over kill. The ancient Romans knew that.
I just use my Model D grader, it would only take maybe two passes.
look up sealing a pond with bentonite clay...
Thanks for the suggestion
Hi Brock, I was wondering if you have an update of this video. I have the same issue and I was wondering if it worked.
I actually did a few videos after this working on the pond. We re did did the bank on the other side of the fence.
I also added an overflow
I think it has worked, but we haven’t had very much rain this year since that time so hard to tell
I was waiting for you to tip the blade the other way, and taper out the dam side of the "swail"
I thought about it but the neighbor said he would prefer I leave it that way
Why are you pulling the tool so little but what also happens to the material you remove?
That’s a dang nice trench when you are done???
I need to work on this a little more because it still had a hump in one spot he needs to extend further in the opposite direction
I thought the box blade did a nice job on it though
now just hope you didnt cut the key out of the damn and it slides away lol
Thanks for watching
Using the box blade while backing up each time would have cut much better & then you would still have been able to make cuts going forward each pass too. Granted, there would have been a lot more dirt to pull with the box at the end but would have taken less time & wouldn't have had the crown in the middle either.
I did use it backwards some. Sometime it digs in too hard when backing up and I can’t push it
Thanks for watching
@@RockhillfarmYT, yeah I made that comment before I finished watching the video. Words can't begin to say how much I miss being on a farm & doing the types of things you are doing.
@@kevinelrod323 I hear ya. I love maintaining this property even though it’s a ton of work
The tree roots are the PROBLEM. Take out the trees fill root cavity with barrite. Not easy but trees should not have been allowed to grow in the first place
Agreed. Unfortunately those are on the neighbors side of the property line so it takes some negotiation
Is that a John Deere 506 brush/bush hog?
It is a frontier RC2072
Put a sealer gel in the pond!
BamaBass fixed their issues with a two part polymar - th-cam.com/video/MeNjGeXtvqc/w-d-xo.html
Also, never have trees on the dam says my neighbor that builds ponds.
I’m planning on it
Thanks for the tip
Tree roots search for water. The cavities roots build are great spots for leaks. Bamboo is a great barrier for dam banks.
did previous owner dig pond so close to property line? have to get permits by county or city? no setbacks? that seems stupid one would or be allowed to dig a pond to close to another property to prevent these issues you are dealing with...
Can’t say. My neighbor has lived there 30 years and It was there before that.
@@RockhillfarmYT Gotcha. good luck figuring it out, drainage is a big issue in all areas...
I’ve got somebody coming to give me a second opinion before I do anything with the dam
I am sure where you live at neighbors are different but neighbors can be fickle things! When they ask for a trench and you do something different...around my parts you end up getting sued lol. I am surprised you started on the neighbors side though...if you thickened and even raised the part near his property..dug that trench like you intended to...you might not have even had to do anything on his property at all. Is he paying you at all for doing that work on his property? In most states...if its across your property line..its the neighbors problem. I can see how you want to keep things problem free with the neighbor though since he did not have the problem before your pond work. Short but looking next to the next one!
Starting there is just a show of good faith so he knows I’m serious about listening to his problem. He was standing back there right before I started digging and I kind of told him what I was going to try first
Most people are pretty laid-back around here and he really couldn’t care less what I do over there as long as it’s not muddy around his horse pen
Well I was there I offered to pull some trees for him for free also. People can tell if you have a good intention
I’m conflicted here and not trying to be a jerk but what does your neighbor think of all this? I mean, your dam is on the neighbor’s property line and then you dig a swale on the neighbor’s property to fix a flooding issue caused by said dam? In my mind, your neighbor is either family or the most understanding neighbor ever.
Obviously the pond existed before the property line and building was there. So he is actually going out of his way to help the neighbor with an issue that he could shrug off altogether if he wanted to.
Correct. The pond has been there 40 years and I’ve lived here three years.
I have a whole video series on fixing this pawn from my side of the property, but in the meantime, I did this because he specifically asked me to.
CRAZY Pond Transformation - We Built an Island, Bridge, and Windmill
th-cam.com/video/yYv5-m_nsqs/w-d-xo.html
Seems like the swale should be reversed
It's called a Gannon
Terminology for things like this vary depending on where you live.
Around here I’ve never heard one called that but I know a lot of people do.
I bought this implement from John Deere and they call it a Box Blade
Gannon was a box blade manufacturer for mostly construction loaders in Redlands CA, been to their plant several times I assume their still in business
Seems like a bad spot for a fence.. on the side of the dam.
Yeah, I wish it wasn’t there but the fence and the pond were there long before we bought the property
You should have tilted the blade the other way too and you wouldn't have had such one sided swail.
Why don't you just put a proper over flow on your pond so you don't affect the adjoining properties?
Yeah, I’ve already done that.
I also Rebuilt the damn. I did this on the neighbors property because he asked me to not necessarily because I thought it was a good idea
So sometimes the obvious doesn't work? Dam lucky your not looking for my advice then.
If you’re a true operator then you should know how to use a box there older than i am an ive been using them for sixty years
I fast forwarded it many times and still felt like I lost a substantial part of my life.
That means that you are not the audience for this video.
My videos get millions of views per month and this is one of the shortest videos I have
@@RockhillfarmYTI tend to agree. On the other hand congratulations on the view count....march on!
The army corp of engineers could have you drawn and quartered for fiddling with their water. Oh! You weren’t aware that they own every drop that falls from the sky or bubbles up from the ground? I saw the give a $45,000 dollar fine to had a permit to do riparian repair in Montana. He didn’t do anything with the water itself but the tires of his excavator went a couple feet into a river. Boom! It put him out of business. They are starting such measures in Colorado.