Dragons Overwhelmed by Trademark Price "You've Been Ripped Off" | Dragons Den
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Two friends, Maria Magembe and Hellen Lawuo-Meena, step into The Den to pitch their premium skincare business, Daughter of the Soil. It's a brand that's inspired by Africa and its wealth of natural ingredients. The girls are hoping for a partnership with one Dragon in particular and are willing to give a 10% equity stake in their company in exchange for a £60,000 investment. But it seems their products are rubbing some of the Dragons up the wrong way...
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Jenny: how you feeling ladies
Girls: hopeful
Jenny: You clearly dont watch dragons den, i’m jenny and i’m out
I'm a minute in and this is the best comment so far😂
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Lol
You shouldn’t have posted that, I thought Jenny was going to make an offer 😂😂😂
she is the absolute worst!
Tej flaunting his chemistry knowledge and putting touker down. Touker imagining taking Tej hostage in one of his many london office spaces
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Hahahahaha #dead
good laugh
john smith lol
When Jenny is your last hope... there is no hope
That's the truth. They might as well only have 4 investors on there. I've only seen her invest once in the 100 clips I've watched so far.
OMG I was thinking: "They are helpless"!
😂😂😂 I watched it all and pinned all their hopes on Jenny I thought for once she'd come through 😢🤔
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Great comment. So true 🤣
Tej is my favourite, always reserved and speaks with a sense of purpose. Even when calling out Touker he did so with class.
Rafiqul Agree with you,
Yes, but if they were all like that this show would be so boring no one would watch.
I agree
I agree with both of you.
Absolutely. Proper gent
Tej: I have a background in your business, I can help you a lot, and for that reason; I’m out.
WadeCounty3 to be fair he is only out because their margins are disastrous
You don't put a kid who crashes is Big Wheel behind the wheel of a Formula One racer.
The women with a background in business got swindled out of 4K and that would have been a strike in my book as well.
He has never done that whatsoever
I love how relaxed Tej was when his discussion with Touker got heated lol.
Its definitely commendable. I mean Tej knows what he's talking about 🤷
@@slowdownexNice humble guy Tej. Him and Sara Davies were the nicest ever on the show that didn't talk down to people
Jenny: I'm thinking
Them: About investing?
Jenny: About how to say I'm out in a new and interesting way.
Roli Rivelino 😂😂😂
Nice!
"Im not in"
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Hahahahahahaha
Jenny : how you feeling ladies?
Them: hopeful
Jenny: i’m out.
Them*
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LMFAO
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Jenny: "I'll offer you a deal. You give me 100% of your company and pay me $50,000 a week."
Girls: "Okay, we agree."
Jenny: "Well, for that reason, I'm out."
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* Jenny being the last dragon left *
Entrepreneur: ......"Im out!"
rofl the best one so far 🤣
An entrepreneur actually did that.
Underrated😂😂😂
@@kpin80 The games company woman 😂
Brilliant..
I hate the way touker went about this, tej was just pointing out that a store sells more than just medicine then touker was very immature
The product was a cosmetic product, and they advertised it in the wrong area, the stores also probably took shares of the sales which made competition harder.
There finances was really bad and they don't have any headroom on the products financially
Lightzpy yeah their buisness model was awful however tej was just trying to correct him and he gets super defensive for no reason instead of going ‘oh right I didn’t know that’
Literally a legally permosable definition of labeling! 😀
lol
I think Touker is quite immature in general. If someone challenges him, he just says "are you gonna invest then?".
@@mharbinson8952 when your flush with cash, it seems you excuse yourself for letting your mouth run away from your brain. Very typical behaviour
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Stole my comment
Sting seen this comment before
Funny this about this is she actually was joint first for most investments in both series she was in haha
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@@SilverMist0121 no that is my comment :)
Jenny is in the wrong show she should be the host of 'Take Me Out'
ahahhaha best Jenny jab to date
Lol she did leave the show this year, so who knows hahaha xD
well trill shox you go and offer some cash then??
Hahaha
This is the best Jenny joke
Touker: the earth is flat
Tej: I disagree
Touker: so you’re going to invest in them are you?
They should be selling wigs.
Omg that made me chuckle
@@laurenevans9182 Please have more respect for God.
@@fraserdunn8563 never
Touker: You’ve got about 60 ingredientses
Ingredientses.
Well he has a few millionses to make up for his minor shortcomings in english grammar
maybe he said '60 ingredients it says'
sneeeaky entrepeneurseses keeping all the ingredientses for themselveses
Marien Zet the keys to officeses in London.
john smith and you don’t... *English
Jenny: “What a beautiful story, I was feeling a lullaby coming up, it was beautiful, and for that reason, I’m out”
Narrator: "only Jenny remains..."
*Entrepreneurs head for elevator*
Exactly the point where I stopped watching and went to grab a glass of water. I was pretty sure Jenny would be out by the time I returned. What do you know, I was right! *shrug*
In the ProGains episode: "You spent £170 to get a trademark? That seems phenomenally cheap, I don't believe you."
This episode: "You spent £4000 to get a trademark? That's phenomenally expensive, you could have done it for a couple of hundred quid."
Does anyone actually know how much it costs
I was actually thinking the exact same thing
Bare minimum is £230 for the application fee, plus extra if you have to defend or hire a lawyer who actually knows how to navigate the process.
@@JamesV1 What I've found is about £500 for both research into viability of the patent (name and logo) as well as registration through a solicitor. If you just want the registration, and don't need them to look into viability before trying to register for you, you can save around £90.This is for a UK only application. You can get one covering all of the EU for just a little bit more (bout £50 extra for the application itself, though the research does become a good bit more expensive, at £200). Once that is granted, you can apply for some world trademarking thingy too
The difference though, is that ProGains didn't have a trademark, it was in contention with a different product with the same name. Had he spent a bit more they would've realised that the name is too generic and gone with a different brand.
Touker was really aggressive. There was no need to jump on Tej.
Rosanne, you and I should be friends. You start
😂 I agree with this
Tej is a trust fund baby.
@@casparandechs4758 so, he's still successful in his own right. The businesses would have collapsed if he didn't run the company well
HIS EGO WAS HURT
Fun Fact: Satan himself works on Dragons Den, and sometimes leaves little demonic messages, such as at 15:01
finally someone noticed it
Wtf
I need money.
Yeah shocked hearing it
what would his job title be
Jenny: "I have no skin. Therefore i'm out."
The Jazz King 😂😂🔥
They need to change JENNY name to OUT🤣😂😆
Lol
The Jazz King Jenny is always hard on pretty women.
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Jenny: I’m thinking....
(In her head: is there a new way to say I’m out?)
Truth!!
Lololo that's a good one keeping silent mite work
Teasing is what it's called
The demonic noise at the end of the video is Jenny in another world and dimension saying "I'm out" to another investment !
🤣🤣 the first Jenny joke to make me laugh.
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😂😂 I'm glad !! Feel like that's an achievement 🙌 😂 love it thanks !
LMAO!! i actually stay on till the end after reading your comment!
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😂😂 class !! And I blew on my phone and wiped my screen thinking there was a hair on it but it was your profile pic 😂 my compliments haha
DH LMAO
Touker was so insecure in this hahaha
I think he suffers from short man syndrome, despite being very successful.
He is always.
why is touker behaving like that? very childish
"How you feeling ladies?"
"Hopefu-"
"I'm out."
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It's always good to see they're still trading and doing well since the show
Doing really well!!
@@TheKatraponga no
Theyre doing crap, they only made £30 profit in 2023.
“You spent £4000 on a trademark?! You should listen to Jenny, she got hers for free”
'Our inspiration for it is Africa'....
Where is it manufactured??
'Morecambe in Lancashire'.....
Manufacturing =/= source of inspiration
I saw a cooking utensil that had a German name had the word Germany written below it and in very small print below that it said "made in the PRC"
Inspiration....
Okay but why is the last 3 seconds of the video demonically possessed? lol
whats it trying to say
@@moist.teabag ''a bit naive''
actually it says "in the UAE"
The voice says in Aramaic, "Jenny is out."
@@psoteriou3884 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Tej is fitting in quite nicely hes a good addition to the dragons
Feel really sorry for them. Seems like they had a good product, and they were nice, sympathetic people. Too bad Tej couldn't invest/help, they would've benefited a lot from that.
Here's the thing - Why I like Peter and Deborah is that when an entreprenur walks in that is pitching a product that is either one of their specialities, the other gives way for the expert to do the questioning. This is a courtesy Toukar needs to learn to extend to his fellow Dragons. Because guess what mate? You don't know much about the healthcare business. You may be good at retail but you have to respect that someone else's experience will be more specialised than yours. Especially if you want respect as well.
I feel sorry for them spending £4K on trademarks. I looked at it for my business and it was a few hundred pounds at the most, as the dragon said. Sad, it is especially sad it is relatives money.
Yeah I had to hypothetically look at getting a trademark for my fake business for a University assignment and it cost just under £500 to trademark the name and logo
I feel so sorry for them. They came in so so happy hoping to get Tej, and it just didn't work. . .I feel upset.
I wish the best for them
They seem to be doing okay on their website 🤷🏽♀️
Fairy Princess yeah but their margins are awful hopefully they improved them
Never trust someone wearing a ridicoulous WIG.
If Jenny wasn't on Dragons' Den, this comments section would be EMPTY!!
comments would be out
I probably haven't really wanted someone to get a deal as badly as I did these 2 ladies. You can tell everything they do is from the heart.
I liked them too but in this category the margins are supposed to be really good apparently that's what made Kylie Jenner a billionaire
Exactly. I went straight to their site to buy stuff but it's all looking unlocked. 😔
Hope they make it.
Why would one want clueless people to get an investment?
@@michaelmarquez6133 I think there are so many skincare things, every influencer and instagram and celebrity brings out a skincare or perfume or deodorant range, you'd first have to build a lifestyle name then bring one out, not just make one with no branding, most of these products I think are good for extra revenue but some of their predictions for sales are ridiculous. Like having sales of 1000 then projected sales of 500k in the same year? I get people want to be ambitious but, there's ambitious then there's ridiculous lol
Everything from the heart and not the mind, 4k for a trademark. Speaks for itself really.
Jenny: You and your products are both phenomenal. I've never been presented with a better opportunity.
Entrepreneurs: Thank you
Jenny: I'm out...
Jenny: "What a beautiful story, and for that reason, I'm out".
Tej has definitely invested in john bell and croyden 😂
İf not that he def supplies them with ton of vitabiotics😁👍
@H K he says when Jenny asks about it it's in central london. A google search suggests it's named after someone, "croyden", not in the place croydon.
@@thedunyadoneya2628 Ohhhhh. I couldn't work out why there was this "flagship store" in Croydon...
This truely is one of the worst businesses to come onto the den recently.
Highly competitive market, no real sales even with almost no profit margins. Product doesn't stand out and the owners look rather gullible, no research and getting scammed on claiming their brand name.
I don't understand why they called them highly investable people because from what I've seen in this episode they're the exact opposite. Good mentality but no experience whatsoever.
taserrr Well said. I agree. Probably good employees but extremely extremely naive business owners.
They are highly investible because they are black and african and female, they will add diversity to the dragons portfolio and looks almost like charity and helping the weak
@@evilgrin1 Lol funny cause its true
@@evilgrin1 I disagree. Touker and Tej are non white so clearly they know it takes more than just your race to make you investable LMAO
@@tokyodoru Its good that the dragons arnet SJWs, Its a breath of fresh air in a smelly virtue signalling echo chamber that is TV, especially with the ellite. And for that reason, Im in
"100% naturally derived" = _anything and everything_ by the way
yeah i noticed that too lol
@Baby Yoda Up In This Mofo I'd argue that everything is natural, except for ghosts
@@85Portar ghosts are very natural, supernatural in fact!
@@davidb9806 , if something is natural then it can't also be supernatural. Those terms refer to the origin of something. Notwithstanding, a supernatural thing could also impinge on the natural realm
Although, the natural (Universe, cosmos) may have supernatural origins (beyond the normal locally perceived laws of nature) ...
That Jenny is despicable. She's never gonna invest anyway & yet she keeps these women hanging on, just to make herself look 'important' & get some TV time.
What a horrible person she is to do that.
Yep. Worst person ever recruited in an investors show not just in the UK but the whole world. I've NEVER seen anything like her. She had no intention of investing and pretended to.
As far as I'm aware, Jenny invested four times on the show already. She even invested in a CBD skincare product (that no other dragon was willing to touch with a ten-foot pole because of the association with Cannabis).
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How many of those actually materialised after the show?
Yes, I made a similar comment before I had seen yours.
Sadik Meah i know two did. The business that promoted on the side of trucks. And the consumer bill management one i think
Tej's takedown of Touker was flat-out EPIC!
Aww I felt for them and for Jenny. She really wanted to help them out
They have a good business if only they know how to operate. The packaging is nice and the back story great. I agree with Deborah on one aspect: They should go 100% natural and organic - exactly as her great great grandmother would have done - who is the inspiration behind this business. African raw shea butter is an acquired taste. You either love it or hate it (just like Marmite). However, raw shea is the best for skin and hair. Some companies even use it as a cheaper option to manufacture chocolates. For their shea product, they should have one in its natural raw state and another scented with natural essential oils - for those like Peter who can't handle the heavy smoky smell of the raw one. £4000 for a trademark is just ridiculous and these greedy lawyers are far too many for my liking. Many of them don't do anything but write letters and expect to be paid a lot of money. I could have done that for them for a fraction of what they've paid. There a lots of mistakes but they are learning and I wish them great success.
Bro nobody asked
"You have got a guaranteed investment today". Tej is the first one out should have just left the Den then
Is it just me? Whenever that Tej bloke says anything, the camera pans to the other dragons who have a sly smirk on their face. Especially Deborah. 🤔
building tension and drama. The editing can be wholly deceiving. They use reactions from the pitchers, and add them into Dragon's remarks making it seem like they've reacted to them directly. Like Touker responding to Tej and Tej looks at him in a completely out of place reaction.
I think Touker was out of order & quite unprofessional when he told the woman they definitely have an investor with Tej.
As an American watching this I have NO idea what they are talking about when they mention stores and UK products by my gosh am I addicted to these.
It gets really funny when you start using the words and terms here back in the USA. I can remember a whole bunch of Americans getting worried when their kids started to say 'Mum' instead of 'Mom' due to the success of 'Tellytubbies'!
This is proof that not everyone should be in business 😓
Most people shouldn’t be in business. I’d say 95-99 percent of people are not entrepreneur material.
Their business is still going strong 💪
God damn you TH-cam... I've been watching Den for hours....
This camera work is making me dizzy.
The cameraman got dizzy when they said they had sold a total of 18 units at one store in 2 months.
Jennys belly has already been buttered and for that reason she's out. 😀
lol!
LOOOOOOOOOOLLLL
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ChipZilla69 Ohhh , I have a terrible mental image now of Jenny’s husband “ churning his butter 🤢 but 😂😂💯Quality !!! .
Press 14:08. I can guarantee you have heard this before. Thank me later 😂
"Hello, my name's Out, and for that reason, I'm Jenny"
How original
you copied that from a previous comment
@@DalePhoenix Thanks.
"Smells funny. I'm out."
~Peter Jones, 2019
Anybody question the noises at 15:01 😂 made me double take, like “wtf was that” 😂
give the editor a pay rise for 15:01 😂😂
What was that 😂
15:00 You can hear A DEMON at the end of the video
No
wow wtf
It's Papa Les Bien
Jenny's devil voice: I'm out a heeerer!
It's Jenny saying "the UAE"
Tej: "You're wrong, Touker, what are you on about?"
Touker: 👁👄👁
£4000 for a trademark? By a lawyer lol 😂 not the smartest.
People trust lawyers and it’s the lawyers that are despicably dishonest. I’d would have mentioned the law firms name on air so others wouldn’t get snookered by them.
Listen right to the end of the video. @15:01 theres like weird backwards speaking sounds that play. What the hell's that about?
it sounds like when Jenny says "in the UAE" slowed down. very strange lol
It was the Jenny bot glitching as she tried to say im in, but shes not programmed to and that came out
It's hilarious when Touker spits his dummy out because someone disagrees with him. (':
Literally everything they said was torn to pieces. Hard to watch
Wouldn't be the first. Watch more. You will cringe.
It may have hurt but they got some very valuable feedback which they are now able to use and then apply to their products
the cosmetics industry is probably the most competitive market in the world. Im a male and use cosmetics. The name of this product would turn me off no matter how good it is. Keep gender, politics, religion, activism, heritage and wokeness out of it. For that reason, Im out.
Descartes: I think; therefor I am.
Jenny: I think; therefor I am out.
Why not help them restructure the pricing? Jenny is all talk.
@kaelyn elizabeth I ask nudes to my girlfriend.
Kinda heartbreaking to know that a lot of people persue their dreams with a bussiness and invest so much money coming from family and friends just to fail because things they didn't know how they work
That's life 👉🏻
I'm starting to notice the lazy comments against Jenny instead of commenting about anything else about the episode or Dragon Den in general. Come on...you guys are smart. Jenny jokes are too easy!
But they just doesnt get old
I felt for these guys, I hope they got their business on track. I can see their site is still running so that's promising. 👍
Stop beginning every sentence with the word 'so'
So what you're saying is...?
what the F is that audio at 15:01?
All I know is I heard "I'm out"
Jenny is Satan confirmed?
Social Justice Warrior That’s the sound that Jenny makes after she’s out.
@@BernardMarx95 lol
Jenny saying "the UAE?"
"In the UAE?" 🤣
*Jenny:* "What a beautiful story. I hate beauty. And stories. I'm out."
Jenny >Due to all the cheese and wine I've pigged down for that reason I've got gout.
im from the UAE and UAE Waitrose would never touch this type of product. It carries only commercial brands because we have strict guidelines especially on skin and oil based products for skin
Touker and Tej went for a pint after this show.
And you went for a halal fried chicken
@@pannasingh7581 While you was Balance singh on your head.
@@pannasingh7581 so funny😂
At 15:00 Jenny says "I am out" in some ancient tong posessed by aliens.
Was just about to comment this 😂😂
The networth of this brand from 2017 to 2021 goes from -£119,000 , to -£262,597.00... with zero cash on hand and a 60%+ Debt Ratio.
This is how African tribes bring honour to their families
Who on earth would pay £86.00 for a shoe box full of straw and some detergent ?
A Tuka vs Tej fight would be awesome to watch. Not in any way impressive, but just great entertainment
Jenny: You asked for money, therefore im out
Literally everything is naturally derived.
Yeah even plastic and plutonium haha
Interesting enough they didn't go down the Organic route.
C'mon you all have to admit that she really wanted to invest this time..
True, they dropped a clanger when they mentioned UAE. Dear oh dear!
15:01 the sound of Jenny sleep talking saying she's out
Something tells me Jenny has two strapping lads at home
What you on about
Aikaeel Taylor it’s one of Jenny’s famous catchphrases
Yea but not her son's...
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Jenny is a dog
As a cheapskate/tightwad, I've long suspected that expensive cosmetics, fashion etc are cheap stuff + BS marketing = premium product. The skin cream here cost £9 to make but sells for £32. It's made in Morecambe, Lancashire but the BS marketing connects it with an African village where a midwife used it on pregnant women's stomachs. Phooeey, was I right!
Jenny: I own a cat and my MOT is due next month, so I'm out.
What is African heritage! It's a insanely large continent
Really felt for these two, what a shame. I wish them all the best, hope they'll make it!
There is something about Touker that I can't take to. He thinks he knows everything but he shows himself up all the time. You can tell that the other Dragons don't like him and think he is a joke.
How that lady could have worked in analytics is beyond me.
-Where did you get the money from?
-We robbed grannies’ pensions, stole from our familiez
Tej is in
...ok. Wtf?
If this was 2 blokes they would be crucified.
No wonder they both left their jobs - management consultant (WTF) and finance! Business related backgrounds - bankruptcies more like it.
4k for a TM? Solicitor by day, Nigerian Prince by night.
Hydrogen cyanide is also natural. Im sick of this all-natural talk. Many of Natural ingredients are unhealthy.
@Jan Schlossar Hehe
Why is Jenny even on the show. Has she ever invested in anything?? Lmao
Two or three times I think.
And about 10 offers.
@@Fif0l LMAO pure lies! she's never invested. She's talking to ghosts.
@@kungfublob5951 she did.
DrivenMedia, Carun UK and LookAfterMyBills.
And I think she was also in one or two split deals.
When Tej declared out, they should have told Jenny we heard you're out and walked off 😂
1:00 *Jenny afraid to make eye contact because she know's she's already out*
No. She was looking at the table filled with products.
@@dwight4k ....and thinking of an excuse to go out
@@astroboirap she wanted her freebie first...
Jenny : You're very investable as a couple
Also Jenny : So, I won't be investing, I'm out
Yeah? That makes perfect sense. They are investable, the business is not.