2019 Lexus RC F Unfiltered Buddy Review: Flop or Fantastic?
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Don't understand why Doug called it a flop. I own one and love it.
Gerville Harlequin because it flopped
Because it's not selling. Doesn't matter that you like it if it's not selling in good numbers it's a flop .
yes sir lmfao you own like a 2007 bmw lol
Because he’s a giant wanker
It competes with m4 on track and almost dead even. I wouldn't call that a flop.
Performance testing with 4x 200lb (+) people in the car, COLD engine oil, barely lukewarm coolant and engine automatically limiting revs to 5800rpm. Nice one...
You can see that during his 0-60 attempt the RC F is shifting at 5000 RPM and lower. After you first start the car, the rev limiter restricts it until it's warmed up. Then the rev limiter should be 7300 RPM.
These four guys weigh at least 1,200 lbs. together. Nathan has to be around 300 lbs. and Roman is also up there. Doug has become a snob.
Agreed, and with a payload rating of only 700 lbs, they are over it by at least 70%.
The car is not even warmed up! These guys kill me with their lack of car knowledge. They rev it cold. And then try to do a 0-60 when the car is cold and won’t rev past 4 or 5,000 rpm. Come on!
How do you know it wasn't just previously ran or warmed up before hand? You dont... great video guys. Its and intresteing vehicle to say the least. The body lines just make me want to think it's a but faster than what it truly is.
Chase Younggreen you can tell it wasn’t warmed up looking at the variable red line. I own a GSF and until it is warmed up the redline is severely reduced. It will upshift very early. Anymore questions? Lol
CareerFireman Yes Sir you are correct. Same as my GSF in sport +. That test was useless since the car could not show its full potential. I hate when they test cars like that.
@@damionjones6375 yes I do have another one, when you gonna shut up? 🤣
With 600+ extra pounds AND at over 6000 ft elevation, the time wasn't going to get much better, even warmed up...Lighten up dude.
The Lexus will still be going perfectly long after the BMW has fallen apart, finished it's warranty and costing you a fortune in repairs.
The reality is it's 2018 and no car is unreliable anymore. Even the Koreans are making solid cars. And when the time comes, repairs on both a Lexus and a BMW will cost a fortune since they're both high performance luxury cars. Let's not pretend like BMW's have an expiration date like a bag of potatoes.
I really like this Lexus. The fact its a Lexus and dealership experience is top notch, but I still have a big thing for a BMW M3. I've had a M2 for about a year and no issues, but going from past histories, BMWs tend to have more issues than a Lexus would have.
You are absolutely right, BMW uses garbage as parts.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 lmao might as well say it does... Obviously you don't know about Toyota... They last forever.
BIG J isn’t Audi just a rebadge VW?
I dont think the engine revved out during your 0 to 60 test. Most likely because the engine was still warming up. It should rev to 7200
Also the traction control kills the power. They need some softer snow tires for that temperature.
@@Bobbybeb Agreed. Also, Toyota's traction controll systems are fairly aggressive, I have a 14 highlander and a 08 tundra, both of which have an on off style of traction controll
7300 rpm and rev cut off at 7450 rpm. They had 3 guys who weighed over 250 lbs at least and they were trying it 5000 feet above sea level so the results are going to be very average anyway.
@CareerFireman They hadn't warmed the car up at all. Useless test!
I would take the RCF all day over a M4
If you watch right around the 8:00 minute mark when they do the 0-60 test, you can see how he doesn’t break 5,000rpms in any of the gears. Watch the yellow bar as it goes up.. never passes 5,000. It almost looks as if the car isn’t fully warmed up as you can see the lower temperature bar hasn’t even reached the middle yet.
Very true. Redline is at 7300 rpm so not sure what they were trying to accomplish there with a 5000 rpm shift.
Either the car wasn’t ready / warmed up.. or his foot wasn’t all the way down. :/
My dad has one of these and I can confirm that unless the engine is at or above the halfway mark on the temperature, the transmission does not work at its fullest potential. The shifts are slower and it will not rev as high, so that is likely the reason it was acting funny.
I think they where in eco mode aswel when they did the pull.
yeah, lexus started doing it int the LFA to show the driver how warm and ready the engine is. Since the red line is too far in the 5-6k rpm, it's still not ready to run 100%, still good with 4 huge people at that engine temp! lol
The 5.0 V8 is the only engine this car should have. Turn off the electronics and let it rip. The engine comes alive around 3500 rpm.
This V8 natural aspiration will last forever
Esta nitido
No it won’t.
Why are people hating on the car this late? It's due for a refresh and a more performance, lighter and faster one is coming out next year. Is it a coincidence? Besides, i remember Motortrend putting the RCF and M4 head to head on a track and the M4 barely beat the RCF by 0.3 seconds.
you mean in 2020 or 2019 ??
the one they tested in the video is the 2018 RCF?
@@sunnyboy8644 2020
I for one love the idea of the RC staying on bmws toes but in fairness I feel one of the reasons (besides it not having two turbos slapped on) it didn’t sell as well as the Germans and Infiniti is because the face is just wasn’t good
Price. So many better cars for thousands less are out there.
@@r.d.9399 focus rs had the same 0-60 and same torque... for 40k new. Imagine an 80k sports coupe getting taken at a red light by a focus hatchback, that's why this thing isn't selling 🙈🤣
I has a use. Certified bmw before for 3 years and keep have little issue and the last issues is big....hate it and let it go now I owning one2016 orange rcf with carbon fiber package Option...it’s been 3years and nothing happen....I love driving it...and will keep it forever. Feel more special then German cars...have alot of friends are mechanic..German cars bmw Audi merce,,, they are pain to fix taking a lot hours to change parts😪
That engine bay looks beautiful with that blue
The 350 handles nowhere close to the RCF especially with the TVD. That is ludicrously clueless statement unless you are talking about cruising around the streets. How did you become a reviewer, if you don't know the basics? RCF's 80% suspension is different from 350 and also has much higher chassis rigidity. I drove both cars and then chose to buy the RCF because the experience was night/day.
I would still choose an RCF over an M4. I could care less about BMWs, Audi’s are more up my alley. Yeah an RCF won’t keep up with the Germans, but at least Lexus has put more effort into its performance brand than both Acura and Inifniti.
Well, Acura does have the nsx. But, who wants to spend $160k on an Acura?
The only Asian competition Lexus has is Genesis. Which is sad if you're Acura or Infiniti because they're getting their asses handed to them by a new comer. I have to say though... the Infiniti Q60 is damn good looking for any price point (Even though the interior is looking pretty dated).
I'll be trading my audi a6 on an rcf in 2019.
And then you will sell it when you admit you made the wrong decision
Romero Bryan actually it’s 4 seconds slower on laguna seca. That’s an eternity...
I don’t know why people give this car a hard time - there’s not one luxury coupe save for the LC500 that you can get with an NA V8. So what if it’s not as agile as an M4, most people don’t drive at the limit all the time and the RC is a characterful big coupe
I love how Doug is a benchmark across reviews now hahaha also love the live review style. More please!!!!
TFLCar guys are more comedy than car knowledge.
Toyota,Lexus,nissan and Infiniti makes amazing and fantastic cars.Lexus is the league of predators,but nothing like these brands reliable,comfortable and unique.This lexus rcf is my dream car,it’s looks are like a growling predator.
Everyone saying m4 is quicker around a track. %99 of people will never go to a track with either. Both are dope cars. these will be excellent in 10 years used. Both are dope cars. A Lexus will outlast BMW but if your leasing you don't care. It all depends on your needs
i'm 30 and i own a rcf and love it. Its not just for old ppl who looking to retire. Also even better when you start modifying it cause thats what im into. BTW the real power of the rcf kicks in at 4k RPM.
Hell yeah, awesome review. I like the real world style. I was concerned about the small back space 'til I heard that all of you guys are over 6 ft lol. I think my kids will be fine in there.
Thank you guys. Was such a pleasure to watch and listen. Non script review was great.
Your guys are awesome, I love and trust your reviews. I owe an RC350 (; love it) and thinking of upgrading to an RCF. Thanks!!
Great review guys! After coming off three BMW's I ended up buying a second-hand RC 35 F Sport that I plan to keep forever. The fact that it cost less than a new Honda Accord, plus the Lexus reliability sold me. It's truly a stunning car that looks so much better in person. Merry Christmas!
THE RCF will make you feel more like an underdog that constantly wins , more than a rich dude with golf clubs. If anything it always puts a smile on my face and with my meisterschaft full exhaust and sikky headers at 475 hp to the wheels that’s 500 plus hp to the crank I’m not complaining . RR racing makes a supercharger kit made of carbon fiber that makes 670 hp to the crank and is track proven with over 10000 harsh miles and no engine failure or hiccups . No engine internals needed .
irob rf enjoy the RCF bro. I’m jealous I want one
Man that is high praise from a Hemi guy! That supercharger kit is $10,000! One could get a used low miles one for about $45,000 and mod it.
475 at the wheels? That's it? Lol how much did you spend? A f80 m3 on stage 1, 300 bucks puts down the same if not more. Lighter car too. Not to mention will have gobs more torque. Stage 2 with dps 550WHP. e85 600... All for 1800 lol and that's including cold step plugs for maintence lol
@@javyramirez9734 but we don't want a fukin BMW!
@@javyramirez9734 can't compare a turbo engine. Those 300 bucks are just to electronically increase boost with a laptop. Nothing amazing about it.
I love the amount of energy you put into this review
Your guys nailed it. Owner of rcf. I really like all your comments. Especially the m4. My friend has one and he loved my interior than his m4. Thank u guys.
It’s a sports car is built for a current Lexus owner. Nothing wrong with it when viewed from that buyer’s eye. Lexus owners understand its appeal and wouldn’t consider another brand if they want a two door. Compared to its German competitors it is also a bargain.
SRT Sorbs I don’t think Lexus owners really buy sports cars. Most people don’t view Lexus as a sports car brand. Sure the racing heritage is there but I don’t think Lexus did a great job marketing the car to the modern day sports sports car driver/buyer. 8 speed auto? No thanks (I know it’s good). A DCT at least... A sports car should be fun just as much as it is fast. Those don’t always equal.
Did you guys just did the pull to 60 in eco mode?
It's certainly not a flop in terms of a car. It's a wonderful luxury muscle car and wears the Lexus badge. It is also for sure a flop in the market. Not a lot of people buy these over the BMW M, MB AMG, and AUDI RS.
Wow really guys.. try warming up the car first why would u do a 0 to 60 u only reved up to like 5k rpm... what is that about
Doug Demuro`s opinions are worthless. After viewing just one of his video`s, it`s very obvious he knows nothing about nothing.
He did a review of the Chevy Colorado ZR2 without even taking it offroad,,,the guy is a freaking JOKE !.... LEXUS is one of the best on the planet
in other words..a dummy. Unfortunately, dummies get more views today
@@veeman2939 ,,,Exactly,,,,I dont get it,,,,SMH
I cant stand the guy either. Lots of dummies watching his videos.
agree Doug Demuro is a wanker - he has a snarky tone as if he's an expert and he isn't - not an authority in any way - he gets a Doug score of 0.3 - no credibility in my book. I wish I could block him/block Google from suggesting him/his vids. 🤮
Bryan Does doug own the zr2? Your argument about doug is stupid, also do you live under a rock? who in their right mind will allow a stranger to drive their new car offroad? also 90 percent of the people who buy offroad cars NEVER offroad them because why would you take a 50k or more car offroad with the potential to damage it when you can easily get a beater and do the same thing answer that. BTW A CAR THAT DOES NOT SELL IS A FLOP. You can hate on doug all you want but hate when you get all your FACTS right.
The recent face-lift looks just that much better, it's the perfect package IMO.
When are you going to make another video on the slip test with the rollers? Those were my favorite videos. Please test a Jeep Grand Cherokee and Mercedes 4 matic.
Although it’s not selling well, I wouldn’t go as far as to call it a flop. It’s obviously a great car. I think the m4 is way more performance oriented, but some people don’t want to drive on the ragged edge. This car is just in a very competitive market fighting against its own brand name.
What Lexus is collectible? LFA and?
This thing will out LASS BMW. My sc430 have over 220000 still running.
I own a '17 lexus RX and it is hands down the best car i have ever been in. i see now why they are priced the way they are. everything in it is so luxurious and does not feel like they 'cut corners' on anything.
THIS over the M4 all day.
I hold doug reviews as close as what my 12 kid says he like about cars
As said "it's sexy af" top 3 best looking cars, top 3 dream cars. Solid, sexy, and just astonishing!!!
You guys were hauling around at least another 600lbs in addition to the driver. :D I have no experience with mile high altitude changes in NA engine performance, but 600lbs extra is significant. Totally agreed that the 350 with the F-sport package is the bargain deal in the line, especially in the CPO market. If I could afford the RC F, I would give it solid consideration as a GT trip monster. For me, the only other potential GTs in that band might be a used 911 or R8. But I would weigh the excellence of those German offerings against the future reliability of the Lexus. Keep in mind that this is my perspective and interpretation. Your's may differ. Thanks for change in format and review TFL team!
A track version of this car is making its debut in Detroit January 2019. We all hope for the little things to be addressed. Rumored to have lost 300lbs, carbon fiber everywhere, wings and splitters with a slight hswpwr increase. Could it really be true? We shall she.
Roman and Nathan you two ALWAYS crack me up with your self deprecating humor! Thanks for the laughs, and thanks for another GREAT review! PS. I'm with you Roman, "Buy It"!
I wonder if the new Tundra will have a variation of this engine?
New rumor has it the Tundra is supposed to get around 30 mpg. Hopefully it doesn’t loose its V8
So you load up sports coupe with over 800 pounds of fat bodies, on motor thats not warmed up, granny shift, and then attempt to do a 0 to 60 time in an NA motor a mile above sea level and complain about the performance? Do same thing to M4 don't warm it up, granny shifting, put over 800 lb of pure fat and see what sort of 0 to 60 time it's going to get, it will be slightly better due to forced induction of turbochargers.
And being mile above sea level were most of country doesn't live. Your performance reviews will always be slightly skewed from the rest of the country. When you compare any forced-induction vehicle to NA motor you know what the outcome is going to be.
They just give some of the most horrible reviews on cars just like Doug with his scripted reviews and his Doug score. Just take a look at some of his top picks and that will tell you the type of car guy supposedly he is. Doug probably doesn't know which end of a screwdriver to use. Or ever turned wrench like so many of these TH-cam auto vloggers.
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Congrats on you own channel and good luck!
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Thanks for a review that speaks to normal car owners. I don't care how it handles on a test track. I am never driving a car on a test track. I am never going to do 1/4 mile tire shredding launches on Los Angeles streets. I am not going do top gear roll on races against a M4 on the I-10 freeway. I want a good looking, reliable, luxury car that has power, comfort and isn't a dime a dozen. Doesn't scream boy racer and will still look good and run perfectly after five years. I still have my 2006 IS350. 13 years old and still looks good and drives as well as the day we purchased it. I am going to have a hard time deciding between the RC-F and the new Supra. The Supra may look a little too racy to me but my wife has wanted a Supra for so long since her A70 Supra got totaled. But the Lexus brand and luxury plus that V8 sound. How am I going to decide?
Appreciate in value? On the used market, 2015/2016 RC Fs are about $44,000 with 20,000 miles, which is a 30-45% depreciation from up to $80,000! I agree with Nathan, but would get the RC 350 with AWD. For $70k to $80k, you might as well get a used LC 500 since they've depreciated 20-30% in a year.
This vehicle worth more than a 100 thousand dollars
Use Destination Assist to get directions if voice acts up.
I'll take a Lexus over a BMW any day.
I was reminded last week has to how badass these things look when I saw a black one rolling down the road, and to top it off it was a woman driving it. 👍
I've always viewed Lexus and their cars as grand tourers not actual sport cars. They are not really designed to be sport cars. They are designed to be comfortable.
Anthony Weeks
Lol
Anthony Weeks Lexus sc300 has the same chassis as the Supra and engine and transmission. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
Why tf would u floor it cold
I would absolutely hug this car
the grill is nice dude ,everyone has their opinion but i love it
Is it above sea level ? my camry faster that that?
Full respect guys.. I like what you doing 👍👍👍
The exhaust note always get me excited!
They all seem so excited to be driving/reviewing this car! It's great! I've loved this car ever since I first saw it. Sad when Doug hated it.
0-60 in 8.4s w/4 lardxxxxx in the car. What would you expect?
7:53 the engine isn't warm enough yet guys. Red line is still @ 6000 rpm. This is also why the initial startup and rev didn't sound as good as it should ;)
389ft-lb/tq??? Why?? My 2001 GS430 makes 325
Wish they would bring out a new isf with this V8
0-60 8 sec.
+2 sec for mountain air
+2 sec for tubby reviewers
fun review though..
I hate BMWs. They are overpriced, rattle and drive like shit. Lexus actually had the RCF on the track with the M4 side-by-side and there is no comparison. The Lexus feels like it’s carved from a solid piece of metal where BWM felt too light and shaky. I would choose Lexus any day!
Do not forget about how bad M4 - AND BMW interior is ! even Hyundai interior is better than BMW.
Excellent review. 😘
I like the traditional clock front and center. Of course, I'm an old guy too...
I love Lexus! I just do!❤️
Me too!!!
@@dhammondplaya Simp, chill.
DID YOU 2 JUST CALLED DOUG DEMURO A LIAR ..? TRIGGERED !!!
702Truee doug thewanko
I'm confused didn't the bmw m4 comp significantly out perform it ....have better fuel economy and Lexus infotainment systems aren't very good
Not to be a "Doug fan boy" but Doug didn't say in his video he hated the car. In his video, he stated car enthusiasts and other car publications thought the RC line in general was a flop based on low sales numbers compared to the RC's competitors. He stated he actually like the car and recommended those considering a
BMW 4 looking for a performance grand touring car should consider the RC-F. In general, I very much enjoy this channel but feel this particular video had a specific agenda.
I should find this channel earlier🤣so much fun
Much respect to Nathan for wearing a Motorhead shirt!
Believe it or not but I actually enjoyed review this way. Felt more natural for some reason
If you have a 5th gen 4Runner and want more power, use this cars throttle body.
For new refresh drop the twin turbo v6 that's in the new ls. Make it lighter with better handling and dynamics and we have a deal
Revving the nutts off it on cold start...yay! I don't think having 4 adults was the only reason to go so slow....the thing wasn't even warmed up to rev up to the redline!
Sweet sounding V8!
Father and son loved it?
Active spoiler was borrowed from the Mitsubishi 3000gt vr4.
How did he not notice it was going flat out when doing 0-60 and no one question the time
Must be a lease the way their treating it cold start and hit the 2 step
The RC F would be my dream car if it had a better center council
4:29 Nathan and Roman look like devils due to the red seats reflecting lol
I think it's a great car if u buy used. These depreciate faster then Italians :)
Bullet Points:
• You missed showing the the plastic cover under the actual hood, comes off, making the scoop functional, "so to speak." (Sarah showed it: th-cam.com/video/G1N5HuImgCo/w-d-xo.html at 3:13 mins.)
• Michael never got in the trunk
• The camera person has a VERY cool name
Seriously considering a 350 awd. Like a luxury mustang 6 cylinder for all types of weather. Nothing else as sexy and reliable that can check off so many boxes.
The infinite q60 is a good alternative to the rc
Beautiful clean design. Refreshingly elegant and simple. Nicer OEM wheels than most other cars as well. I'm not a big fan of the interior. It isn't a seamless, cohesive design. Almost looks like Frankensteined random mismatched blocky 90's style components from various cars.
Funny cause the car is actually a Frankenstein of random mismatched part of other cars
Who owns all the square body Chevys? Doug Demuro couldn’t find his butt with both hands. That is a great car. No Nathan bashing this comment.
Doug is a fantastic guy with great perspective on world class cars. I love TFL too but Doug is on a different level.
It’s an awesome ride of top build quality. And there’s like 700 lbs plus in that car. 😀
I am a Lexus fan and I own an IS 300 but I would buy the GS F. You really need four doors and a useable back seat.
What would you need 4 doors on luxury/sports car for?
That awkward moment at 3:06 🤣. Love the RCF
Haha, payload capacity rating on the RC cars is 700lbs so with fuel, you were probably over it by about 500lbs or 70%! Poor little Lexus.
Nice of you guys to let it warm up before free revving the shit out of it... Jesus what a bunch of hacks.
i am waiting for an F version of the IS...we need a 4 dr version that isnt over 80K
latinbeandip theres already one the lexus is f but it was discontinued
Iiii literally saw it and thought isn't that the one Doug said was a flop? Lol
The Lexus will last 300k miles with no major issues, Interesting review...Yeshua(Jesus Christ) is the way!
Amen, Jesus is the way
Facts