2019 / 2020 Lexus RC F | Has Lexus Done Enough?
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- Looking for a 2-door Lexus but can't afford the LC? There's a RC for that and you'll get the same 5.0L V8 under the hood if you're willing to pay enough. The high-performance RC looks as menacing as any of the competition, but unfortunately the more traditional V8 under the hood can't match the competition's acceleration figures. Can the rest of the package and Lexus' well deserved reliability reputation compensate?
0-30: 2.0 seconds
0-60: 4.5 seconds
60-0: 110 feet
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The RC-F is a pretty tough sell for those who are German loyalists or number snobs. For more visceral people like me the RC is a masterpiece. It’s looks like nothing else on the road, sounds like Thor, and would likely will not break.
I know people get tired of hearing the Lexus reliability argument, but for people like me who can’t/aren’t willing to spend $70,000 on a car, buying one used for $40,000 that will still work 200,000 miles down the road is huge!
The RC-F gets outperformed by the M4, yes. BMW has decades of high performance cars under their belt. No question the lighter, turbocharged M4 would be more focused. But being outperformed by a surgical M4 and “being a bad car” are two different things. The RC-F is still fast. It still handles well. It’s still loaded with luxury features. It still benefits from Lexus build quality and owner experience. It still looks great, especially in white with the carbon fiber roof and spoiler. And maybe most importantly, it’s still has a NA 5.0L V8 that has no issues revving to 7,500 rpms. The RC-F is still a good car.
Agreed. It's just that not many people are looking for one of these...
Rather get a Infiniti Red Sport then this crap, 400Hp
Yep, buy used and save 30K plus. My wife bought a white one with the performance package, so it has the carbon fiber roof. Its a great looking combination. Some don't like the looks of it, but it always gets compliments. I think it's because there are not a lot of them on the road, coupled with the in your face looks. The upgraded stereo is a must! Most people don't take their cars to the track, so arguing about weight, and times is a waste of time. Only bad thing i have to say about it is the infotainment system. Boy that thing is a piece of crap, other then that it's all positive.
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I totally agree with you. The reasons you state are why I purchased a used RC-F this past October. I wanted a reliable, luxury cruiser that could be sporty as well.
I heard that lexus is much more comfortable than e.g. BMW m4 and less noisy inside, so lexus is more pleasure for daily, traffic ride.
I had a '11 x5m and have a '16 RCF, traded the x5m for a rx350 fsport. 10/10 ask any truthful bmw owners, the bmw is only comfortable on highways, in the city you're gonna hate the car. Both my Lexus' are insanely comfortable and smooth rides in the city, and on the highway. Definitely not close to how strong my x5m was, but the ride is so smooth... its worth a try to test drive bmw's and lexus.
That engine should last 200,000 miles per Toyota standards. So you give up some speed for reliability.
It'll probably ask for an overhaul after 200k and then it'll be good for another 200k.
Someone already has a 100k+ miles RCF with no problems.
@@rellykz2175 100k is nothing nowadays. Cars are so much better now. Racing cars too. I remember watching Formula 1 back in the eighties and waiting to see if the leader would break down. Now, once they get the lead, it's about over.
Having owned both Mercedes AND Lexus, I can attest to the fact that every Lexus I have owned has lasted AT LEAST 17 years before any serious problems have arisen. Mercedes... usually 3-4 years before something serious. Unfortunately, the German cars ALWAYS look better than the Lexus! Especially with their new “whale shark” styling
Do you even realize that you have loser mentality?
It's all or nothing!
Great review Alex! I believe this is a car that completely gets overlooked. Having owned 3 BMW’s in the past, I purchased a second hand RC 350 F sport and can say that I really love it. Having Lexus reliability was also a selling point for me. I also like that you do not see many of these on the road. They look so much better in person.
I've had two BMW's and three Lexus's. I can't see myself buying another BMW.
This car is being replaced by the model debuting on Monday at the North American auto show. Refreshed for 2020.
Still will weigh too much and cost even more.
Blake Swan LMAO you don’t know shit. A refresh will not be much more expensive than the outgoing model. There is a track model debuting on Monday which will be whole lot lighter.
will Lexus finally get rid of that swosh head lights for the RCFs?
@@sunnyboy8644 yes
imo this video was hard to follow bc he's going over all the different rc models. we're here for the RCF
I love the rc-F 😍
We have a 2015 RCF and it is one sweet ride. Great daily driver, awesome
Sound and reliable as a sunrise. Just a
Great automobile.
Yes sir! It’s a great automobile. I love mine too and I’ll never get rid of it. It’s definitely a keeper.
@@nacho7614 Exactly why I'm getting one. For anything track related, which is the only place an M4 shines above, I'll use a bike. The other 99% of the time 4.5 to 60 and a top speed of 170(ish) is more than enough, especially considering the reliability and comfort. Cheers.
I love Americans going on about the M4 being the more agile and better sports car. You live in a country that has more straight long highways than anywhere else. I bought an RC F and live in the UK where we actually have twisty roads everywhere. M4's are a lot cheaper and less exotic due to being very common and easily obtained on PCP finance
I own a 2018 RC 350 and I have to say... I absolutely love it. I traded my old 3 series for it, and it's a much better car. I do wish Lexus would swap transmissions and go to a ZF as opposed to their AISIN, but frankly the car is a really nice balance of every day livability and fun driving. They're also pretty rare, so people tend to think RC's are WAY more exotic than they really are; no joke, people think it's some kind of supercar. Everyone has seen a 4 series and a C class and an A5, they look like every other Bimmer and Merc and Audi. The Lexus looks like nothing else on the road, which is why people stop and talk to me about the car all the time.
Same. Love my rc fsport
The look has aged well, and it always sounds amazing in V8 form
More muscle car attitude than a precise driving tool
If you want a Japanese coupe that thinks it is American, this is your ride
Wish you would be more recognized here on TH-cam your knowledge and review with explanataion is 💯
Best review I’ve ever seen.
That paint job is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow, excellent review. You should have a couple million subscribers.
My RCF is plenty fast, license threatening fast, AAMOF, and I've had 2 years of trouble free enjoyment. To me, the NA V8 is preferable to FI, for all the usually mentioned reasons. I have much track experience, but that not what I bought this car for. Any track rat knows at least 2 things: 1) Don't track a car you can't afford to walk away from (or pay for track insurance every time). 2) Lap times are 90% driver and 10% car. What to take up track days? Here's a recommendation made more than any other: "get a Miata."
Considering that every other car manufacturer on the market requires extensive research to determine whether its product will fall apart in 10 years, I'd say yes, they did as much as we can hope for.
This'll be a fun review to watch later!!!
Absolutely love your reviews!! Please review the new 2020 Lexus RCF Track Edition!
Alex,can you please do a QA video? You are extremely informed and have attention to detail in your videos that nobody else has. Thanks
"Great" intro/outro music, especially in 2:49 in the morning!
I think for shoppers who aren't really buying this to be drag-racing with specific competing cars, the RCF with the V8 will more than meet their needs especially with Lexus's reliability and the sweet-sounding v8 note which translates to many trouble-free miles of delightful and spirited driving. But if money is no object and the acceleration is a must not minding long-term reliability, I'd pick the C63s for performance, brand badge, interior/exterior design and tech and also a lovely engine note. The RS5 and the M4 look a little too vanilla like their sedan close cousins (A4 & 3-series).
LEXUS IS THE BEST CAR EVER
no. Porsche, Mercedes, BMW are def better
That v8 sounds so good 😍. Huge turn on
Hey Alex, I have a suggestion for a vehicle function that I'd like to see pointed out in vehicles equipped with paddle shifters. Namely, what happens when you pull a paddle while the shift mode is normal drive. Some cars ignore the paddles until switched to manual, others will enter a temporary manual mode that either times out back to automatic, dynamically holds manual mode until it thinks you're back to cruising (Modern Mazdas do this, works very well) or stays in manual until shift back into drive. I know that's a kind of silly thing but I've found it makes a huge difference to me as a person who can only stomach an automatic if it has paddles that work well. Keep up the great work!
Thanx Alex good review as always.
Hey Alex, I think you should have made it much more clearer that you're looking at a special edition that's 15k more than the base RC-F (yes, you pointed out the placard for a second, but I would think something this critical to the review be in the title or at least prefaced)
Love the engine, sounds awesome and plenty of power for roads. Weirdly I do like the rear three quarter panels, needlessly fussy and over designed.
My neighbour had an M4 and always had a bit of a smirk looking at my RC-F as he thought he had the better car. Until one day I got home to find him under the hood inspecting the cheap plastic inlet manifold which had split in half under boost. 😂
Wow 😮 took a heavy learning curve to get that all down. Few will realize cause u make it look ez
Hey Alex great review as always. Do you think you could talk about lease deals on cars like this? Maybe not specifically but just generally speak to how competitive they are. I think half of cars like this get leased and companies subsidize them so that drives buying decisions
You forgot to mention this is the 10th anniversary edition.
That's confusing because the RC is barely 5 years old (2014). 10 years of the Lexus F lineup, not the RC. That's like Toyota celebrating the anniversary of their Platinum trims for their crossovers.
Mentioned at 13:53 (pointed out the placard)...
Yeah, I initially thought it was very cool of Lexus to offer that exterior and interior colorway, but then realized later it was only because it's a special edition. I think Alex kinda goofed up
tbh i hope ppl keep giving bad reviews on the rcf so no one buys them so theres less on the street lol. Its more fun driving a less common car lol
That's why I am buying the 10th Anniversary one bc they only made 240 of them
Definitely lol
Given the slight variations in horsepower and driving dynamics, my preference would definitely go to this RC. The major consideration for myself is that the Lexus brand is far and away much more reliable than any other. Yes, the Audi and Mercedes models are great driving vehicles, but over the long haul, the reliability quotient is the ultimate barometer.
Look on the forums and read all the problems owners aeee having withthe rcf. Axles blow up like crazy. Typical Toyota fanboy blindly praising them.
Let's be honest. The cars in this category all so powerful that you'd never be able to approach their limits on regular roads. (legally :) ) If you keep that in mind, this Lexus is a compelling choice. How will this car make you feel? It's beautiful, stylish, plenty powerful, dynamic and very unique.
I really love that blue interior as almost no car has that (blue is my favorite color); wish the RC 350 will get that blue interior option in the future.
Damn that's a nice color
It is.. but an honest dealer will tell you-- that matte paint job is a NIGHTMARE. dont do it. lol
I bought an RCF over the LC (could have bought either) because it felt faster (370 lbs lighter) and felt more nimble because of the smaller size and the active rear differential. Definitely felt quicker and better in terms of handling. I also love the looks of my RCF, but looks are subjective. In the end, while the LC has more luxurious, the RCF has many advantages over the LC.
Congrats on your new purchase, enjoy!
@@LacoteCohen Thanks. Had it for over a year now and yeah, enjoy every minute of it. Cheers!
That paint looks fantastic in real life.
I really like the seats in this car. The germans are really boring with black usually being the only opposition for the sports seats which are rarely ventilated.
awesome . . . Alex watched you in many reviews . . what is your best GT/sedan ? This RC and Rolls Royce wraith which one among this two can you chose ?
2019 looks better than 2021
It's such a beautiful car. Does the RC 350 come in that color??
Best in depth reviews ever
My dream car
Although it has similar 0-60 times as a 435i the RCF will actually walk those cars on a long stretch of highway. A 476HP NA V8 is still a 476HP NA V8, the reason it doesn't feel fast is due to the low torque numbers.
So? Who cares about walking those cars? Big deal. Little men need to walk those cars.
Matte color. 🤔👍🏼✨👌🏼
This is actually the first discussion I have heard putting the RS5 on the same table as the RCF or M4. The truth is, Audi is the real struggle. RS5 is literally a legacy design that has been around for far too long. IMO, it doesn't compare to ANY of these cars.
Lexus ..the darling of the auto industry
They done enough to make a performance saloon that wont scare away the business market
While the 0-60 mph might be similar, either at higher speeds or around the track or from a rolling start, the Q60 Red sport or 440i have nothing on the RCF. 0-130 mph is 1.5 seconds or more quicker than the those cars. 0-60 mph only tells a small part of what the car is capable of. I know it because I own an RCF.
Exactly thank you
If it not reliable it is not a viable choice. Go Lexus!!
I’m not relating my forthcoming comment to this video but why is it that reviewers are so overly critical of Toyota and Lexus products but will overlook almost every shortcoming of the Germans? Lexus builds a great vehicle. From engine and tuning to seats and suspension to reliability and price point. If you look at the LFA, LC, LX, LS, GX, RX,etc., there’s nothing but solid vehicles in the entire lineup.
The center console and dash look so outdated it's crazy.
The German competitors is a must lease. If you plan on owning a car up to and over 100,000 miles, the Lexus IS the best option
That the Anniversary edition you can tell by the blue interior and Matt finish paint job. These are a limited edition.
Of course it has bite it has all the ingredients that it needs to be excellent and it is excellent. The perfect blend of luxury and performance with styling that doesn’t blend in with the German competition. The RCF is easily one of the coolest looking car on sale right now. Love the interior Especially those seats and the sound of that V8 is crackin good. I definitely want to one of these.
Is it true that Lexus will axe the RCF?
Definitely love mine 💕
But Chris Harris said GSF is better for everyday use then M6!
Man.. I wish the 2020 model kept those LED running lights under the headlights. They look so brutal.
Exactly
I'd definitely go for the slower RC F. It's plenty fast enough, that engine sounds fantastic, and having owned an E46 M3 at up to 19 years and 91,000 miles old, and having owned two Lexuses with 100,000+ and 200,000+ miles on them, I'd just prefer to buy my car and not be afraid to put those miles on and enjoy it.
RC F is unique and a head turner unlike the German competition. Sure it's a half second slower 0 to 60 than the Germans but the melodious V8 and build quality/reliability more than make up for the gap.
Love the RCF, its my dream car without a doubt. But I can't help but pick on the interior, it seriously needs to be updated, its very nice but for a 2019/20 model its kinda disappointing
I wish the swoosh from the back LED strip was implemented in the front too. The front "Nike" swoosh it too angular.
Also, you'd be lucky to get 19MPG average on Premium only with this car, in addition to getting anywhere below $200/month for insurance with full coverage.
The car is not avaialble in AWD, $20k too expensive to buy for what it is and sits way to low for city curbs. I don't know... for $70k there are much better options out there, considering this is not even the GSF full size sedan inside and out. The inside is the exact copy of the IS which is $30K. Not sure why Lexus thinks they can charge $40,000 extra for a V8 and a hybrid platform.
What better options are there? I guess a loaded Mustang GT fits the bill.
....just buy the GSF.
Funny I haven’t see anyone complain about 911 backseats 🤔
The backseat really isn't too bad. I got into it the other day just to see how it feels back there, and I had no problem. I'm 5-11 195 pounds. If it had a sunroof I see where there could be a problem.
I should call your channel Alex the biased against Toyota and Lexus.
Saw a used RCF for $60,000 with about 30,000 miles.
I can't believe this grille design is still a thing.
RCF is 400+ lbs lighter than the LC500 so not quite "a little bit lighter". It is a lot lighter. Also, being an F car, it has all of the track hardware. BTW, 0-60 mph can be deceptive as RCF (RCF does 0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds) is a lot quicker than the Q60 Red Sport or m340i at higher speeds. More importantly, around the track is where it is in a different class.
they just need to split the front grill into lower and upper sections. Would look so much better that way.
Agreed but the rest of the car is beautiful
What about the Porsche 718? how does that compare?
Side profile kinda looks like an old Altima coupe
Not a great new car buy, but will be a great used car in 2-3 years
What is the deal with the dull paint?
I could swear all models of the RC have halogen amber turn signals, no? Just the tail lights and brake lights are LED I thought.
Sorry, but lost you in the model name comparisons. Will replay and take notes.
I would by this Lexus over any other European competitor 😃
Oh I wanted am M3, but now I'm getting this. I will pas up the high maintenance and iffy bearing break down, for a well built car
@@daronmonteilh3904 Muy bueno decision.
Me too. Because I've owned several German cars.
So the Infiniti Q60 Red Sport with 400 hp is just as fast as this RC-F and look way better in my opinion. But Lexus definitely has better reliability and interior design : )
Rcf will smoke the ugly q60
@@davidwade7681 Yeah sure, lol
@@kempowarrior its on paper runs the 1/4quicker also i had a choice between the 2 an the q60 definitely felt slower interior is outdated and the taillights are ugly i went with the RCF V8 plus it has eco mode better on gas then the q60 with more power lol so im very sure
Well on Monday you will see the new 2020 RC F Track edition. It went on a diet and got more power.
God ! 64'000 $ ?
On my market it is sold for 104'000 $ ! I would for sure buy it new if he where to available at that price.
Benoit Bricet buy some used for this one i bought one in 2015 when it just came out for 86k after 2 years you will find one around 42k with only 8-10 miles for much much cheaper 😀
Great review
I chose the RCF after owning BMW
Reason, don't like living in service centers with Housewives.
I didn't Subscribe you chose the wrong car at the end.
Own the others and you'll learn.
Ah the real supra
I'd never buy a luxury car without a sunroof!
This car is a prime example of the limits of ICE technology. The Model 3 Performance costs as much as the RC-F but it drives better and is faster without breaking the bank.
It is fortunate for Lexus and the rest of the so called luxury manufacturers that Tesla is lagging behind in quality and refinement.
Electric will for sure soon always beat ICE cars in performance. But after driving an electric car I just feel like an ICE car has more soul? IDK once price drops and once a EV car is released that I like the look of then I'll probably switch!
God, electric cars are great in the city but they suck unless you stay near civilization. My diesel pickup has a range of 720 miles. Get back to me when electrics get anywhere close to that.
I’d buy this over BMW any day. Love the V6 non turbo. I really am not a fan of low rpm high torque. Why are grills getting so big??
Steve Brule I love naturally aspirated engines in general. Toyota’s 3.5L V6 or 5.0L or 4.6L V8 ate smooth and sound great 😍
This car is sexy AF
They shouldve make these Supras.
Franklin car: GS front, IS middle, and IS-C rear. Which might explain why it weighs si much.
Norm T its heavy because they wanted hi speed stability
Who is Franklin, you mean Franken? xD
Please Lexus change dashboard design 🗣
Mines came covered with carbon fiber looks much better
It's not a NIKE Swwooosh!.. It's a "L" the Lexus Logo.
that center control stack looks really dated
Had my RCF for 8 months. It was a great highway cruiser and rides nicely on NYC pavements. However, I did not like how you could only use the 2nd and 3rd gear before getting your license suspended. The gears are too tall to enjoy on a daily basis.
The biggest issue is that people choose the RCF to be different, but theres the ATS V which is also cheaper, but it's faster, more modern, and just as unique.
Lexus reliability an v8
After seeing this video it made me think- why was the new Supra based on this? Would seem pretty logical to me.
No. The new Supra is a re-badged BMW assembled by Magna Steyr .
Right Lane Hog I understand completely. I guess I am a bit disappointed to see the Supra with not a lot Toyota in it.
@@Seattlejoe1 Your restraint is admirable. Toyota will come to rue the day they allowed leftovers from a Eurotrash parts bin to be shoddily assembled and then sold under the name TOYOTA. My estimate is 18-24 months for the facade to crumble. ;)
Sounds better than a m4
467hp in a coupe and barely hit 60 in 5.0 seconds? My genesis r spec with 4200 lbs 429hp it a 4.7-13.1
The "Muh BMW is faster" is only if you're looking for the direct way it is supposed to be, especially with the 2020 revisions with better aero (Finally has single unit headlights), higher rear gearing (massive improvement), and 472hp and slightly redone suspension, and it's much better than the M4 in handling than the M4
I wish it had the 5.6l engine.
I'd rather have that Lexus than a 440i..
Lexus RC F gives you=
luxury comfortable reliable fast car
Germans give you= fast cars
Up to you to choose but for me Lexus over any germans
Safari don’t the Americans give you fast cars too? Like the scat pack challenger or Charger?
um - slap on a turbo - and eat up everything else
I have the rc 350 f sport looks good on the outside very lame and subdued in the inside for the price point and going against a competitors in the same price range it is very slow