M240i Xdrive 0-60 | Stock vs MHD Stage 1 93 vs MHD Stage 2 93
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- Comparing stock 0-60 to MHD stage 1 and 2.
Mods include:
VR Performance Intake
Active Autoworke Catted Downpipe
XHP Stage 3
Dual Resonator Delete
Stuff I use and like:
--Tuning and Coding--
OBD2 Adapter for tuning and coding:
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Wi-Fi Antenna for CarPlay Retrofit:
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--Appearance Mods--
Carbon Fiber Spoiler
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Black M-Style Grill
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Aluminum Paddle Shifters
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3mm Spacers
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Extended Lug Bolts
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--Tools--
Dewalt Tool Kit
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Ratchet Extensions
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Wheel Hanger Stud
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Torque wrench
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BMW Jack Point Pads
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--Detailing--
Foam cannon and nozzles
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Turtle Wax Wheel Cleaner & Iron Remover
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Turtle Wax Wheel Cleaner + Tire Prep
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Thanks for this video, been looking at getting into an m240i next year
Good luck man!
same thing with Bootmod3 with an N55 motor. Stage 1 is great, nice gains. Stage 2, not so much. A high-flow downpipe really does help as well. Thanks for posting, that's a quick little beast!
not true. i had an n55. when i went from stage 1 to stage 2, car felt way more responsive and faster because of it being catless.
Great vid! The reason why the other runs were invalid was because slope was greater than 1%. It has to be within -1 to 1% to be considered valid!
Which is weird because I did all of them in the exact same spot 🤷♂️but thanks!
@@mevans8646 agreed 😂 happens to me too but as long as you have an angle close to 1% I don’t think anybody would really cry too much about it lol. Car is fast as hell for sure
I've owned a stick m240i for 4 years now. Crazy the performance difference between AWD auto vs RWD manual, in the 0-60 of course. Would love to see some data logs. Stage 2 is hit and miss with timing and trims on the b58, in my experience of owning two.
Yeah I noticed my timing wasn’t that great when I did some data logs in my last video about the VANOS. I’m still getting 3-4deg of correction at lower RPMs and even up to 7 at higher RPMs. I’m fairly new to datalogging and tuning so I’m not sure exactly how bad those are relative to what they should be though.
@@mevans8646 It has been a few years since I looked but the n54tech forums has a lot of great info on logging. It's for JB4 specifically but data logging is the same.
"Of more importance is watching out for sharp drops of more than 3 degrees in the engine high torque/power band…. typically in the > 4500 rpm range. Sharp drops of 3 degrees from one scan to the next indicate potential knock activity and are a general indication that the boost curve may be set too high for the available octane. Drops randomly throughout runs especially on pump grade fuels are expected but repeated drops in the same gear indicate an overly aggressive tune."
Have you tried e85? I use to run a 2 or 3 gallons with shell 93 and timing was noticeably better. If you have crap fuel, even crap 93 it may not like it. Only thing you got to keep an eye on is trims when you add e85. It should drop to low 40s in the high rpm range.
@@mstegs5477 I’m nowhere near ethanol pumps, nearest one is 30 mins away but it’s known for having bad E85. The good one is about 45 mins away. But here’s a link to my logs, if you take a look and let me know how they look I’d appreciate it. I may put in some octane booster just to see if that makes a difference. This is for a stage 2 93 tune using Mobil 1 93 gas.
datazap.me/u/mevans/replaced-exhaust-vanos-actuator?log=0&data=3-16-36-37-38-39-40-41
Hell yeah! Thanks for the vid
Anyone know what kind of 0-60 times you'll get with a non x-drive on stage 1? Seems like stock vs stock the x-drive is 2-3 tenths quicker but there's lots of conflicting info
It’s invalid due to unleveled road. U have over a 1% down slope that’s considered too much of an advantage.
The pulls were done on the same stretch of road, so the comparison between the stages is still valid
Part of the reason for the smaller difference between stage 1 and 2 is likely due to the transmission tune. You can tweak the settings in xhp and likely pick up a couple more tenths. On the stock TCU the difference between stage 1 and 2 is more noticeable but the factory settings are your limiting factor. Also noticed you didn't use any sort of launch control for the runs and I would be curious to see if that plays any difference.
I would have gone for a m2…I NEEDED xdrive…its just sooooo much crazier in the 1/4. It may not handle as well in the corners but its still very capable. That launch control is fucking nuts
I think the next M2 is gonna have optional xdrive and the S58. Now THAT is gonna be a true quarter mile beast.
@@mevans8646 if it does come with xdrive I may swap out for it lol
@@b58killu31 yeah so I was wrong, no xdrive lol
@@mevans8646 thats sucks! Im going to save up for the g80 m3 xdrive. That thing with just a tune keeps up and possibly even beats exotics. For a fully loaded one its like 85-90k though.
Heckle Yeah! Thanks for the vid :)
Heckle yeah my guy
Im waiting for spring to test my tune (Canada). I'm tuned to 400hp/430lbft(580nm), do you think I will break 4 seconds or even get close to the new 240i #'s which are close to these numbers in the video?
How is the car still running on MHD Stage 2? Still reliable and well? I'm stage 1 right now, and I've been debating on going stage 2. I have the same DP as you, MST intake, dual res delete, but without XHP atm.
All good so far aside from needing to replace both of my VANOS actuators. However those aren’t tune related, one went bad stock. I have that vid on my channel too if you care to check it out!
@@mevans8646 Sounds good! I'll have to check again and make sure I'm not running into that myself! That video was good, i did see that.
Might go for the stage 2 93 and see how she runs over the summer. I was going to go pure 800 with the setup with a goal of 500 hp / 500 tq, but after looking everywhere I can't find a single person running out AA cat downpipe and a hybrid turbo. Just because of the HP left on the table with our Cat.
Nice video!! AWD M240i rips! I’m curious to see what my RWD 0-60 will be once I get some better tires on
I have AWD but I also have some wider summer tires on there now (225/255 Indy 500s) which grip far better than my stock 225 all seasons. No slip off the line for me! At least in 75 degree weather.
@@mevans8646 heck yeah man! Finally getting my new SSR’s next week that I ordered back in February, and got some new tires for them so I’m stoked to see how much better it grips. These Pirelli run flats that came on the car suck lol
@@Broke-Media oh they’re the worst. Even just my budget friendly Firestone Indy 500s ride so much smoother than the runflats, literally anything is an upgrade
If DP is not catless then you won’t see much gain but if catless gain will be noticeable
I know, unfortunately I went with catted because I still need to pass emission. And while most catted downpipes still don’t pass, the Active Autowerke downpipe does. I really wanted it mostly for sound anyways, I got it for half the price of any axleback system.
You should test 100-200 between the 3 maps🔥
Maybe one of these days when I make a trip down to Mexico 😉
is it true that 2020 and up you cant flash the ecu...? just wondering because i really want to get this 2021 one but im not sure if i should if i cant get it tune
It depends on exactly when the car was manufactured. I believe I remember it being a manufacture date of 6/2020 or afterwards has a software version that is locked for tuning. If you plan on tuning, there were basically zero changes between the 2018-2021 for these cars. I’d look into an earlier model year just to save some cash. If you get one with a locked DME you can always bring it to a shop to get it bench unlocked which should only be a few hundred dollars. It used to be that you needed to send the DME to some guy in Russia but I’d ask in a local group who offers bench unlocks.
Is this better than ECU stage 1 replacement? What are the perks of each? Thank you .
Stage 1 and stage 2 are the same, stage 2 just requires a downpipe and makes slightly more power. Not really perks of one over the other aside from that.
@@mevans8646 thank you for fast response. I see that other people are changing ECU for stage 1 , however you only use MDH tune through your phone!
Just got the same car except 228i Msport with the red interior
Congrats!
What kind of 1/4mi time do you think youd get?
Stock xdrives run low 12s so I’d expect mid to high 11s
So im new to the bmw scene and im selling my amg to get a bmw with a b58 engine.
Can someone explain me why i see a ton of f30 340i at stage 1 or 2 struggling to get even 4 seconds 0-62, but then i see 140i and m240i (and a very few 340i) do these crazy sub 4 numbers from a simple stage 1 and around 3.5 from a stage 2?
It’s literally the same everything and the 340 honestly doesnt weigh that much more than the 240.
Can anyone explain?
I’ve been in the BMW B58 scene for a couple years now and I still can’t explain this lol you’d think they’d be similar given it’s the same engine and very similar weight.
@@mevans8646 yesterday i saw a video of a 140i with 580 hp and his 0-62 was worse than yours. Dont even ask me how the fuck thats possible for a nearly 600hp hatchback with xdrive.
Even 2+ tonners like rs6 and e63s get close to 3 seconds and they have 600hp. Its very weird
@@homiixide traction is tough, with xdrive you really can’t fit very big tires
Add some ethanol and retest :)
No ethanol within 30-40 mins of where I live so I don’t really care to run ethanol at the moment 😅
@@mevans8646 First world problems 😔
@@BrandonF80 the plebs will never understand my plight
100-200 is 1 second gain on stage 2 BM3 in my case.
340i owner here with MPPSK and bmw warranty, is stage 1 much of an increase, I have asked this before, but get mixed opinions
I don’t have the MPPSK so I can’t tell you how much of a difference it is versus stage 1. But I’ve heard others say it if worth getting the stage 1 tune.
I was looking at getting stage one as well but I am going to wait until my warranty is out because I want to I want to have it. As soon as you install stage 1 you're warranty is poop!
If you have an extended warranty you can take it to any shop. Just find one that’s cool. Flash back to stock, you should be good to go.
They are invalid on the draggy because you did the tests at more than a -1% slope meaning you were driving downhill.
At least I was able to still compare the times, that was more what I was going for with this vid
Invalid is... Invalid
How are the 100 - 200km/h results?
Haven’t gone to Mexico yet to test 😅
Can u make vid with xHP settings?
Already have one! Go back a few videos 👍
What was your 60-130?
Didn’t test that, only 0-60. Probably an interesting idea for the future though.
I weigh 90pds that car would do low to high 3s with me😂 maybe😮
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Invalid
I know, but it was the best I could do. I’ve had various valid runs in the exact same location. But I still achieved the goal of getting a ballpark acceleration comparison between the 3 maps.
@@mevans8646 it's all good I was just messin