My 19 challenger RT is out in LA as we speak getting the E85 tune by MPR Motorsports out by Lake Elsinore. This guy also had me put on the hellcat injectors and told me upgrade my fuel pump so I would have the proper fuel pressure. I ended up going with the 392 fuel pump. You think this is why your having start up problems? Maybe not enough fuel pressure? I also went with a unlocked pcm and have full bolt ons. BBK long tube headers, mid pipe with high flow cats, borla Kat back mid mufflers with resonator delete, 90 mm BBK throttle body and th T/A ram air intake and they are also adding the 3.09 differential. I really can't wait to get it back. I here this tune does wonders. Keep up the videos. Good job brotha.
This is definitely something I am going to ask the tuner next time I go out there - does your car have a cam? I'm also inclined to believe that it's the cam causing a lot of the issues haha
@@DonnySRT not at the moment but there is a reason why. I am doing the kennel bell supercharger and my mechanic suggested to wait on the cam. He's reason behind it was because he suggested to do the hellcat cam. Sense that cam is specially designed to run with a supercharger. So as you see, me putting that cam alone would not had worked. As you know each cam is built for a purpose. So my next upgrade will be that. Kennel bell supercharger, hellcat cam, port the heads and probaly upgrade my throttle body from 90mm to 102 or 105 mm. It should be enough to put me in the top 500/600 rear wheel. Then obviously the final stage would be 397 forged internal set up so I am able to bump up the psi on the supercharger and re enforce the trani to take 800 hp but to get to this point will be maybe a year or two down the road. I want to first run thr motor down to 100k plus miles before doing the internals. Plus 600 hp rear wheel should be fun enough to keep me happy for a while. But definitely look into a bigger pump. I really believe that's your problem. Plenty of air coming in but not enough fuel to support it. Best of luck bud.
I have a flexfuel kit in my 5.7 Challenger. No need to change out the injectors, it runs perfectly fine on E85, 93, or a mix. But could I get more power by switching the injectors? 🤔
So my thing is if you go flex fuel route what’s stopping you from still getting just a straight e85 tune, 91 or 93 tune, and then a flex tune. Yes you’d have to reflash for each one but flex doesn’t mean you have to be running a flex tune at all times correct? I’ve been thinking about doing that route and my tuner said he can write me a tune for my standard 91, a e85 tune, and a flex tune for when I want to switch until I burn enough to switch to straight 91 or 85 depending which I’m switching to
every popcorn conversion I've seen my buddies do they all swapped pistons for higher compression pistons cam and injectors the high comp solved the hard start before tune
Good info thanks. Also some advise as I know you have a lot already invested into your car. Check into modified car insurance so if you get into a wreck your covered. I just found out about this after my R/T got t-boned.
Good shit brotha keep it up !!! Your doing everything I wanna do to my 5.7 lol so good to see some info on things there so little info about , if you ever hold a meet let me know im down here in moreno Valley but would be down to drive up an meet up an hang out , your a cool as dude I like your energy !! Keep it up man !!
I dont own a charger but i do own a 2020 ram 5.7 1500 and a 2016 lexus gsf. Im curious as to what I can do on my ram for more power it have an e85 kit and a kn intake
You should put Lucas ethanol treatment in your tank will keep everything lubricated for you . And save up and get a flex fuel it so you can blend cheaper then having to change your fuel pump and all your fuel lines . Car loos sweet .
@@DonnySRT so literally injectors are the only thing you need for E85?? Obviously tune included but nothing else is needed? Got a ram 5.7 I’m looking to do this to
Just a question. I don’t have much in my car besides intake and headers. I’m looking into getting a tune and I kinda want to get into e85. Some say I need a bigger fuel pump. I seen you don’t have one. So it kinda makes me wonder. What is everything I need besides larger injectors?
Any new information on this? I’m curious about cost differences as prices sit now. E85 and regular are about the same price per gallon now. I’m seeing 15% -25% better mileage on 87 vs e85, so I guess about 15-25% more expensive to run e85 as of now?
Of course it was helpful. Some more information wouldn’t hurt either. Power curve before compared with after. Possibly an Ethenol injection into the intake air to cool the intake air temperature making it colder thus denser, like alcohol injection that was common on 80s turbo grand nationals back in the day.
Nice video. I do ask myself about if the fuel system is doing good, i'm planning to do it on my 300c srt8 but i'm afraid of the problems caused by ethanol on the fuel system.
There's lots of debate about this, but truth be told, there is already up to like 15% ethanol in regular gasoline as it combats knock similar to how lead did. Check out this article: eflexfuel.com/us/blog/does-e85-eat-or-corrode-fuel-lines
I wanted to run e85 on my rt but wasn't sure had few people say its bad for the engine in the long run and eats up the gaskets and rubber seals ... not sure what to do .? Any info on this
Actually that’s a good question. I’ve also heard that it is somewhat corrosive. I don’t have a complete answer for you so I’ll ask my tuner and get back to you
@@DonnySRT interested on this as well , as I’m also thinking about going this route with my Chrysler 300C . So you’re saying our stock fuel pump is compatible with the corrosive element of E85 ? What about any rubber hoses? Did you just update the injectors? Awesome content brother am loving the build and the Journey
@@DonnySRT you will if you still get e85 specific tuned I grabbed 23 hp from doing it and a handful of torque and they adjusted my timing and sparking so 93 doesn’t work
That’s great info!! I just got all the parts for my 6.4 intake manifold and my friend is selling me hellcat injectors as well I’m thinking of going that route right now as soon as I get that intake installed
So would a flex fuel kit be better for someone who doesn't have a lot of E85 at stations around them? Also are flex fuel kits worth it power wise? I heard they just advance timing and the fuel injector duty cycle.
I've heard differing opinions about the power gains - but my tuner told me that you won't gain as much as getting tuned specifically for E. But if you don't have many stations around you, you don't have much choice I'd imagine
Ahh shit man!! Full Blown that’s dope💪🏼 I will be going to them soon! Didn’t know you’re near by. Love the channel man would love to meet up & check out your HEMI🔥 just got a 2018 rt
Two uploads in one week? Whoa 🤣🤣
I live in Alabama and can confirm, only 2 stations within 50mi carry e85
Ya I looked into this bc I was wanting a silverado around the farm with flex fuel and I live near huntsville and we aint got shit
My 19 challenger RT is out in LA as we speak getting the E85 tune by MPR Motorsports out by Lake Elsinore. This guy also had me put on the hellcat injectors and told me upgrade my fuel pump so I would have the proper fuel pressure. I ended up going with the 392 fuel pump. You think this is why your having start up problems? Maybe not enough fuel pressure? I also went with a unlocked pcm and have full bolt ons. BBK long tube headers, mid pipe with high flow cats, borla Kat back mid mufflers with resonator delete, 90 mm BBK throttle body and th T/A ram air intake and they are also adding the 3.09 differential. I really can't wait to get it back. I here this tune does wonders.
Keep up the videos. Good job brotha.
This is definitely something I am going to ask the tuner next time I go out there - does your car have a cam? I'm also inclined to believe that it's the cam causing a lot of the issues haha
@@DonnySRT not at the moment but there is a reason why. I am doing the kennel bell supercharger and my mechanic suggested to wait on the cam. He's reason behind it was because he suggested to do the hellcat cam. Sense that cam is specially designed to run with a supercharger. So as you see, me putting that cam alone would not had worked. As you know each cam is built for a purpose.
So my next upgrade will be that. Kennel bell supercharger, hellcat cam, port the heads and probaly upgrade my throttle body from 90mm to 102 or 105 mm. It should be enough to put me in the top 500/600 rear wheel.
Then obviously the final stage would be 397 forged internal set up so I am able to bump up the psi on the supercharger and re enforce the trani to take 800 hp but to get to this point will be maybe a year or two down the road. I want to first run thr motor down to 100k plus miles before doing the internals. Plus 600 hp rear wheel should be fun enough to keep me happy for a while.
But definitely look into a bigger pump. I really believe that's your problem. Plenty of air coming in but not enough fuel to support it.
Best of luck bud.
About how much did all the cost you
I have a flexfuel kit in my 5.7 Challenger. No need to change out the injectors, it runs perfectly fine on E85, 93, or a mix. But could I get more power by switching the injectors? 🤔
absolutely
So my thing is if you go flex fuel route what’s stopping you from still getting just a straight e85 tune, 91 or 93 tune, and then a flex tune. Yes you’d have to reflash for each one but flex doesn’t mean you have to be running a flex tune at all times correct? I’ve been thinking about doing that route and my tuner said he can write me a tune for my standard 91, a e85 tune, and a flex tune for when I want to switch until I burn enough to switch to straight 91 or 85 depending which I’m switching to
every popcorn conversion I've seen my buddies do they all swapped pistons for higher compression pistons cam and injectors the high comp solved the hard start before tune
Good info thanks. Also some advise as I know you have a lot already invested into your car. Check into modified car insurance so if you get into a wreck your covered. I just found out about this after my R/T got t-boned.
I was actually thinking about this the other day as well. Definitely worth looking into
now my question is how do you even get this thing registered and all that with all those mods. nothing on that car is CA legal
Very informative. Thanks for sharing as always.
And thank you for tuning in!
Good shit brotha keep it up !!! Your doing everything I wanna do to my 5.7 lol so good to see some info on things there so little info about , if you ever hold a meet let me know im down here in moreno Valley but would be down to drive up an meet up an hang out , your a cool as dude I like your energy !! Keep it up man !!
Man this comment really means a lot to me. I will make sure to let you know if I ever have a get together/cruise around here. Hope you're doing well
I dont own a charger but i do own a 2020 ram 5.7 1500 and a 2016 lexus gsf.
Im curious as to what I can do on my ram for more power it have an e85 kit and a kn intake
Know this is about a year old but just to make sure all I need to run e85 is hellcat injectors and the e85 tune?
Going to be doing my headers soon and was going to do 93 octane but if e85 is that simple might end up doing that.
how do you have long tube headers in cali ?
That start up lag is amazing😂
U mean cringe
You should put Lucas ethanol treatment in your tank will keep everything lubricated for you . And save up and get a flex fuel it so you can blend cheaper then having to change your fuel pump and all your fuel lines . Car loos sweet .
Thanks! The fuel pump and lines should be alright. I did have to change the injectors though. I do wonder about how corrosive E is.
@@DonnySRT so literally injectors are the only thing you need for E85?? Obviously tune included but nothing else is needed? Got a ram 5.7 I’m looking to do this to
Just a question. I don’t have much in my car besides intake and headers. I’m looking into getting a tune and I kinda want to get into e85. Some say I need a bigger fuel pump. I seen you don’t have one. So it kinda makes me wonder. What is everything I need besides larger injectors?
Any new information on this? I’m curious about cost differences as prices sit now. E85 and regular are about the same price per gallon now. I’m seeing 15% -25% better mileage on 87 vs e85, so I guess about 15-25% more expensive to run e85 as of now?
Just uploaded a new video on this topic!
Of course it was helpful. Some more information wouldn’t hurt either. Power curve before compared with after. Possibly an Ethenol injection into the intake air to cool the intake air temperature making it colder thus denser, like alcohol injection that was common on 80s turbo grand nationals back in the day.
Thanks for the video! Not great access to e85 here in Maryland but we have 93 pump gas which helps a little.
Unfortunately in California we only have 91 - at least you've got nice 93
Would those injectors work with a boost a pump? Or would you recommend to just get a upgraded fuel pump?
Nice video. I do ask myself about if the fuel system is doing good, i'm planning to do it on my 300c srt8 but i'm afraid of the problems caused by ethanol on the fuel system.
get a new fuel pump and fuel lines and injectors that are e85 friendly because it wil corrode the fuel system if its not e85 friendly
@@johntrujillo9270 I dont think that true just like the this video all u need to do swap to larger injectors and a tune an you’ll be fine
@@anthonyalba7963 Exactly. My challenger was tuned for E85 and all I did was drop bigger injectors and ran great for 3 years till it got flood damaged
Have to buy it in drums down here in the south. Bummer
Have you upgraded the factory differential yet?
You need a colder spark plug . And gapping them
Would this work with a 14 challenger rt?
Any gains in performance
How much did FB charge u bro? I am thinking of going that route too
How about the hoses?. Thats gonna be a problem more in the future due to the E85 messing the hoses up. Or am i wrong?
There's lots of debate about this, but truth be told, there is already up to like 15% ethanol in regular gasoline as it combats knock similar to how lead did. Check out this article: eflexfuel.com/us/blog/does-e85-eat-or-corrode-fuel-lines
Can you use 42 lb fuel injectors ?
You can run e85 in that car without changing fuel lines or anything else? Injectors only?
Correct may need pump and injectors depending on power goals
I wanted to run e85 on my rt but wasn't sure had few people say its bad for the engine in the long run and eats up the gaskets and rubber seals ... not sure what to do .? Any info on this
Actually that’s a good question. I’ve also heard that it is somewhat corrosive. I don’t have a complete answer for you so I’ll ask my tuner and get back to you
@@DonnySRT interested on this as well , as I’m also thinking about going this route with my Chrysler 300C . So you’re saying our stock fuel pump is compatible with the corrosive element of E85 ? What about any rubber hoses? Did you just update the injectors? Awesome content brother am loving the build and the Journey
could just run a flex kit that way you can switch back to 93 when you want
You won’t gain the same power
@@DonnySRT you will if you still get e85 specific tuned I grabbed 23 hp from doing it and a handful of torque and they adjusted my timing and sparking so 93 doesn’t work
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@@lashawnvalentine435 dm me! It’s hemihouse_
Car is looking good bro🤙🏾
Thank you! It’s coming along slowly
I wonder if you can also use E85 on the 2011 to 2014 Charger rt’s as well?
Yes
Same motor
I can only imagine the HP gains you could get without California's emissions restrictions.
I know... very restrictive here because so many cars are on the road
How much power are you pushing with FBO and E85? Im almost full bolt on besides throttle body , e85 and injectors
The car is cammed so it's hard to compare
How can I convert my car to diesel ?
great video ! i want to
run this on my scatpack but wondering if i need injectors or not
Yea you need injectors
whatsup with that wheel fitment ?
So like just to be clear, you got hellcat injectors and a tune out in LA, and literally that’s it ? What happens if you put 91 ? Lol
It won’t run on 91.
whats ur whp? im on a flex fuel on my 392 and im pushing 494whp and 497tq
It’s a bit into the 400s on SEA corrected numbers, which read lower
@@DonnySRT dope dope bro
Thanks man. It’s comin along lol
for everyone wondering if you run e85 & your car takes while to start even on a coke start it’s a bad tune.
Yea, new tune is way better than it was in this video
Closest E85 to me is over an hour away...
I got one 5 min
That's the only thing u need tbh
When are we gonna see some racing?
Soon hopefully. I’m working on getting a tire setup since it spins too badly to do anything rn
Mod List Plz
Check description on my latest video
That’s great info!! I just got all the parts for my 6.4 intake manifold and my friend is selling me hellcat injectors as well I’m thinking of going that route right now as soon as I get that intake installed
Glad I could help. So far I definitely recommend it
Can’t wait!
What's your definition of full bolt on??
Headers/Intake/Manifold probably tune and gears on the R/T
@@DonnySRT catback exhaust
So would a flex fuel kit be better for someone who doesn't have a lot of E85 at stations around them? Also are flex fuel kits worth it power wise? I heard they just advance timing and the fuel injector duty cycle.
I've heard differing opinions about the power gains - but my tuner told me that you won't gain as much as getting tuned specifically for E. But if you don't have many stations around you, you don't have much choice I'd imagine
What is N/A?
naturally aspirated
How much power ?
Over 400 wheel
Ahh shit man!! Full Blown that’s dope💪🏼 I will be going to them soon! Didn’t know you’re near by. Love the channel man would love to meet up & check out your HEMI🔥 just got a 2018 rt
What are you pushing ?? How much power
Over 400 wheel
When are you going to give the exact numbers
Do you know where I can get a hold of the flex fuel kit for the 5.7?
So you’re car needs to know when you’re using e85
Yes! E85 likes more timing and more fueling
My tuner said nothing about needing bigger injectors. I am n/a and no cam. I wonder why?
E85 requires 30-40% more fueling than regular 91/93 octane. I've heard of no-one who has done E85 with stock R/T injectors
@@DonnySRT Shows stock injectors are fine. www.advancedfueldynamics.com/products/proflex-commander-for-5-7-hemi-ram-1#:~:text=The%20patented%20ProFlex%E2%84%A2%20Commander,and%20running%20cooler%20with%20E85.
Can't E85-only cars handle like 13:1 compression?
E85 needs more timing
What type of exhaust do you have ?
Long tubes, catless, borla s-type mufflers, reso delete
shouldn’t take that long to start up need a better tune
Yea it's much better now after retune
5.7 you can only do so much to it you need 6.1,6.2, or a 6.4 . I have the 6.1 with that I can make it a 426 stoker.
Nosea paga cuando esta frio
So technically u butchered up your pcm to save 50 cents a gallon and gain 5 horsepower. Good job.
You can always go back to 91 with a tune bro. Calm down
It’s stock, officer
You need a external mic if you can :D
No lie I have a "shotgun" microphone I am just too lazy to set it up XD
look at it this way 20HP equates to 200#s 😎 or one fat girl 😉
LMAO. Good way to justify it 🤣🤣
your intro is too long brother
lol bro take that mask off that shit don’t and didn’t work.
get to the point bro
I’m providing content for free. The least you can do is watch an intro that I put a lot of effort into
Did u need a wideband?