Much respect to dive in and install a very labor intensive job like a cam install. Love the car and I'm sure it makes it much more enjoyable knowing that you are building it hands on unlike so many others
Glad to see another 5.7 build thanks for all the details you give I’m sure other 5.7 builds or others wanting to build 5.7 will get good information off you 💪
oh shit LOL this is why i love the LS engines, a full kit (springs, rods, oil pump, rockers arms upgrade, camshaft,) is around 1100, a DOD / AFM Delete Kit is around 565, a tune is around 570 bucks here in Houston LOL Thats around 2200 if you do everything yourself, add around a 1000 bucks if someone else dose it. Hemis are cool but nothing beats the cheapness and power gain of LS engines
My Maggie cost me $6.5k with the tune. It's easier to install than a cam, as it's a bolt-on. It rips down low and continues to pull up high. It's perfect for street use as your mostly in 3rd and 4th gear, and rarely punching it from a dig, unless your that guy at the street light. The torque it adds is violent.
I did it by myself and made a few mistakes. Definitely went over the cost i was expecting. Also trying to find the right tuner to tune it properly gets expensive. Saving up that money for tuner #3 👀😢
Was it hard? Also what mistakes did you make? I'm thinking of doing it myself because I got quoted 2K-4K just for installation of a 6.4L camshaft, which to me is absurd because it doesn't look very hard, I just dont have much of the time to do it, but if i can save a couple grand, I'm gonna make time lol
@@2averagenoobs108 Only time I had was after work. Was working past midnight for about 3 days. Should have taken less time than it should but I put head gaskets on opposite sides. Had to take the heads off and buy a new set of bolts and a new head gasket. Realized it was on the wrong side when trying to line up the gasket on the other side. Also one of my tuners told me the timing was off. All in all he made me tear the front apart just to find out it was a tuning issue.
Paid $8500 for hhp heads/cam package with mds delete, kooks long tubes, tune, trans tune and fluid change, labor, unlocked pcm, 180 thermostat, all new fluids, gaskets, etc for my 392
Man, I'd LOVE to cam up my scat pack. In my case, it just don't make sense. #1, my car is new/5yr warranty I wanna keep, #2 I would imagine it ruins the resale value. Most common guys won't buy a jacked car. They're concerned it's had the snot ran out of it, concerned weather it was professionally installed, etc Would you agree? The performance upgrade would be sweet (30 or so hp?), but......I LOVE THAT CHOPPY IDLE!!!!?
nice video's man keep it up, but to be honest there are only non mds lifters and the new 2015 redesign hydro lifters for the MDS system, and R/T through hellcat the lifters are the same part number. don't get scammed for just the name hellcat. only way to get ride of the keep from getting the hemi tick if you think lifter will fix it.. it wont. just the hell cat oil pump will fix it to keep them lifters nice and wet with the higher oil presure. something to think about.
You talked me out of the cam. The r/t is a great daily driver. I’m going to add the 6.4 intake manifold with active runners just because it’s cheap and very effective. You could also just add a 150hp wet plate system in case you ever line up with a scat.
What ppl also need to know to get the best performance from the cam. I would recommend they also add in the cost of headers and exhaust work. Also on older cars since your in there already replacing the oil pump is a good idea.
@@DonnySRT Also the numbers you post would also require the 6.4 intake. and throttle body if you have upgraded that. etc etc etc. So you know just engine mods might be closer to 10K
Out by Chicago I was quoted 1700 for cam install and the 6.4 intake swap, Dyno test, tune with hp software. Cam was 1100 intake was 450 used no fuel rails or injectors. $3250 for those gains. I’m scheduled to go in mid June
That's a good price, but keep in mind, the tuning cost me as much as it did for a reason. A lot of people struggle with tuning the HEMIs so make sure the shop is more than familiar with them
Moral of the story you’re gonna spend a lot of money let me put it in perspective from my own view Cold air intake -300$ Throttle body 85mm ported-500$ Intake manifold w/msd box wiring-700$ 180 degree thermostat-20$ Lt headers-750$ Catless mid pipes -300$ Custom 3” exhaust straight pipes/tips-750$ Differential-600$ Hellcat fuel pump-250$ Camshaft w/lifters-1700$ 6k on just parts not including pcm unlock gaskets fluids bolts tune wheels and tires ....... if you install everything youreself including these things maybe like 10-11k range including installation that’s about 14-15k just my personal experience the numbers I have spent
That's a good point. I didn't factor in things such as long tubes and other miscellaneous parts into this video, but it definitely adds up. I haven't yet determined how deep I am in in total, so we will see I guess.
@@DonnySRT yeah I mean. At the end of the day I love my build it’s mine and it’s unique and yea it beats it’s older brother the scat so def worth it can’t wait to see what u do next Donny I got some heat for mines next Donny 👍🌶
The hrt stage 2 master kit comes with non mds lifters. The description gives the part number for the lifters and when you look up the part number it says its non mds
Torque to angle isn’t a measurement of whether or not the bolts will yield. In the additional 90 degree turn the service manual calls for, it can an often does cause elastic deformation
I got a new Dodge Charger R/T Plus and I want to do what was shown in this video. I live in Louisville, KY. I cannot find anyone in my town to do this. Where are you at Dovavan? I can afford the $4000 for you to do this.
Hey, I remember you said you lived in California. So you didn’t want to do anything that messed with emissions? Did you move? Or are you paying under the table now? Lol
Torque to angle doesn't mean much. It just means that an angular measurement is used instead of a "torque" measurement. It can yield when it's being turned "to angle" Im fairly certain. You can't reuse those bolts if the engine has undergone a heat cycle, that's for sure.
@@DonnySRT MUCH more 🤣 im full bolt ons, custom tune, and tranny work, and i struggled to keep 1 at my door from 2 digs. I only took it because im AWD 🤣
Much respect to dive in and install a very labor intensive job like a cam install. Love the car and I'm sure it makes it much more enjoyable knowing that you are building it hands on unlike so many others
I appreciate that bro - it’s definitely one of the reasons I’m attached to this car, plus I like learning about the stuff so it’s definitely worth it!
Glad to see another 5.7 build thanks for all the details you give I’m sure other 5.7 builds or others wanting to build 5.7 will get good information off you 💪
oh shit LOL this is why i love the LS engines, a full kit (springs, rods, oil pump, rockers arms upgrade, camshaft,) is around 1100, a DOD / AFM Delete Kit is around 565, a tune is around 570 bucks here in Houston LOL Thats around 2200 if you do everything yourself, add around a 1000 bucks if someone else dose it. Hemis are cool but nothing beats the cheapness and power gain of LS engines
My Maggie cost me $6.5k with the tune. It's easier to install than a cam, as it's a bolt-on. It rips down low and continues to pull up high. It's perfect for street use as your mostly in 3rd and 4th gear, and rarely punching it from a dig, unless your that guy at the street light. The torque it adds is violent.
That's definitely a solid option to go with, however, I did the cam in anticipation of doing something like that in the future
What is a Maggie?
@@AncientSword79 supercharger
I did it by myself and made a few mistakes. Definitely went over the cost i was expecting. Also trying to find the right tuner to tune it properly gets expensive. Saving up that money for tuner #3 👀😢
Was it hard? Also what mistakes did you make? I'm thinking of doing it myself because I got quoted 2K-4K just for installation of a 6.4L camshaft, which to me is absurd because it doesn't look very hard, I just dont have much of the time to do it, but if i can save a couple grand, I'm gonna make time lol
@@2averagenoobs108 Only time I had was after work. Was working past midnight for about 3 days. Should have taken less time than it should but I put head gaskets on opposite sides. Had to take the heads off and buy a new set of bolts and a new head gasket. Realized it was on the wrong side when trying to line up the gasket on the other side. Also one of my tuners told me the timing was off. All in all he made me tear the front apart just to find out it was a tuning issue.
If you got the tools and some experience to do it 100% worth doing it yourself.
Fbo RT getting gapped by q
@@2averagenoobs108 LMAO that was meant towards Godspeed getting gapped by q5.7
Paid $8500 for hhp heads/cam package with mds delete, kooks long tubes, tune, trans tune and fluid change, labor, unlocked pcm, 180 thermostat, all new fluids, gaskets, etc for my 392
Not a bad price since it includes labor honestly
Man, I'd LOVE to cam up my scat pack. In my case, it just don't make sense. #1, my car is new/5yr warranty I wanna keep, #2 I would imagine it ruins the resale value. Most common guys won't buy a jacked car. They're concerned it's had the snot ran out of it, concerned weather it was professionally installed, etc
Would you agree? The performance upgrade would be sweet (30 or so hp?), but......I LOVE THAT CHOPPY IDLE!!!!?
nice video's man keep it up, but to be honest there are only non mds lifters and the new 2015 redesign hydro lifters for the MDS system, and R/T through hellcat the lifters are the same part number. don't get scammed for just the name hellcat. only way to get ride of the keep from getting the hemi tick if you think lifter will fix it.. it wont. just the hell cat oil pump will fix it to keep them lifters nice and wet with the higher oil presure. something to think about.
You talked me out of the cam. The r/t is a great daily driver. I’m going to add the 6.4 intake manifold with active runners just because it’s cheap and very effective. You could also just add a 150hp wet plate system in case you ever line up with a scat.
Nice informative video. Good job.
What ppl also need to know to get the best performance from the cam. I would recommend they also add in the cost of headers and exhaust work. Also on older cars since your in there already replacing the oil pump is a good idea.
That's a good point. Wont get the most out of the cam with the stock, restrictive manifolds
@@DonnySRT Also the numbers you post would also require the 6.4 intake. and throttle body if you have upgraded that. etc etc etc. So you know just engine mods might be closer to 10K
I got quoted 4-500 and might be more the deeper he goes in the engine. Pre big bucks to get that done for sure
He really just roasted Jurassic 🤣🤣
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It's all in fun haha
@@DonnySRT yea hahaha that shit killed me 😂😭
Very informative… Thank you…
Donny! Could you create a playlist where all of your cam install videos are in one place?
Great suggestion. Yea I'll put them all together
if you made it this far.yup i watch every vid to the end.
I appreciate that bro 😁😁
Cool
Out by Chicago I was quoted 1700 for cam install and the 6.4 intake swap, Dyno test, tune with hp software. Cam was 1100 intake was 450 used no fuel rails or injectors. $3250 for those gains. I’m scheduled to go in mid June
That's a good price, but keep in mind, the tuning cost me as much as it did for a reason. A lot of people struggle with tuning the HEMIs so make sure the shop is more than familiar with them
$1100 for a cam!?! Do you mean a cam kit w lifters, springs, MDS delete?
Satara?
Where are you getting your tune done at by Chicago
What cam & shop?
Good information
Moral of the story you’re gonna spend a lot of money let me put it in perspective from my own view
Cold air intake -300$
Throttle body 85mm ported-500$
Intake manifold w/msd box wiring-700$
180 degree thermostat-20$
Lt headers-750$
Catless mid pipes -300$
Custom 3” exhaust straight pipes/tips-750$
Differential-600$
Hellcat fuel pump-250$
Camshaft w/lifters-1700$
6k on just parts not including pcm unlock gaskets fluids bolts tune wheels and tires ....... if you install everything youreself including these things maybe like 10-11k range including installation that’s about 14-15k just my personal experience the numbers I have spent
That's a good point. I didn't factor in things such as long tubes and other miscellaneous parts into this video, but it definitely adds up. I haven't yet determined how deep I am in in total, so we will see I guess.
@@DonnySRT yeah I mean. At the end of the day I love my build it’s mine and it’s unique and yea it beats it’s older brother the scat so def worth it can’t wait to see what u do next Donny I got some heat for mines next Donny 👍🌶
How critical or necessary a Hellcat fuel pump at this stage?
@@riology2234 some people don’t do it but I did for e85
God damn not worth it at that point
Just fyi I ordered and installed adjustable toe links for the rear. The camber wear is GONE
The hrt stage 2 master kit comes with non mds lifters. The description gives the part number for the lifters and when you look up the part number it says its non mds
I decided not to get those ones because I wanted the MOPAR brand lifters
@@DonnySRT are they better? Because i got what came in the kit
How much HP would it increase 5.7 with a cam kit, headers and tune?
80+ wheel horsepower from tune headers & cam alone
Just wanna ask how much does all the mods change your mpg? Is it almost the same as a 392?
I’m on E85 so it’s not necessarily a fair comparison
Take it to los santos customs get that 20 inch lift 🥳
Just a heads up. The head bolts are reusable. They are not torque to yield they are torque to angle and you can reuse them with no issues.
Torque to angle isn’t a measurement of whether or not the bolts will yield. In the additional 90 degree turn the service manual calls for, it can an often does cause elastic deformation
Head bolts are tty. They shouldn't be reused because they'll be stretched.
I got a new Dodge Charger R/T Plus and I want to do what was shown in this video. I live in Louisville, KY. I cannot find anyone in my town to do this. Where are you at Dovavan? I can afford the $4000 for you to do this.
Hey, I remember you said you lived in California. So you didn’t want to do anything that messed with emissions? Did you move? Or are you paying under the table now? Lol
Hey man, got fitment specs on those slicks? Trying to get a set myself but don’t know what will fit without cutting and grinding.
You remind me of Adam Driver .
I thought the head bolts were torque to angle and that the cam bolt was the only torque to yeild???
Torque to angle doesn't mean much. It just means that an angular measurement is used instead of a "torque" measurement. It can yield when it's being turned "to angle" Im fairly certain. You can't reuse those bolts if the engine has undergone a heat cycle, that's for sure.
does this cam pass emissions?
Donny, since that time did you get an impact tool to do all those hard to get bolts?
Haha - my dad has one, so I just use his when I need to!
IM FAMOUS 😂😂😂😂😂
I was first pal 😤
Gotta change your TH-cam name now 🥶🥶
@@DonnySRT 🤣 he’s gonna use the intro he made for Evander 💀
sick ass intro sick ass car
I appreciate it brother. Got some more stuff coming soon!
@@DonnySRT word bro i’ll stay tuned!
Do some Pulls
Ha - trust me I've been doing them. Just not really filming them. I'll see what I can do
Honestly ion think it’s worth it just tune the rt and you’ll spend less than on buying scat packs
Takes much more than a tune on a 5.7 to beat a 6.4
@@DonnySRT MUCH more 🤣 im full bolt ons, custom tune, and tranny work, and i struggled to keep 1 at my door from 2 digs. I only took it because im AWD 🤣
Traditional SBC cam kit, $200. You can keep your expensive plastic toy.
So most definitely not worth it. All that for JUST a cam
I wouldn’t say it wasn’t worth it, it definitely makes the car faster
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A little too late this time 🥱
I think Marco just barely got u ;)
@@DonnySRT man i had just woken up lol
Stop scaring your mom young man! Kinda Funny...... NOT Funny!😉
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For everyone else after me 🖕🏾
Omg wow
@@2ss_Manna Dont make me sit on that finger ;)