Genesis GV60 Performance 70-MPH Highway Range Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2022
- Kyle heads out for our typical 70 MPH highway range test this time in the 2023 Genesis GV60 Performance built on the fantastic E-GMP chassis
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You should make an excel sheet that keeps track of the range of the cars you test and maybe temperature/conditions day of the test.
This
Yes please
I think this is the MOST ATTRACTIVE! What a beautiful car with a luxurious interior!!!
Love these real world tests. Thanks for adding the GV60 😎
My personal opinion is that these range tests should be testing from an indicated 100-0%. As you even mentioned, that buffer below 0% is not constant, depending on battery wear, temperature, etc. Plus, unless you have an OBD dongle and app active to monitor it, you have no idea how much battery you have left below 0% indicated.
Love the content! One request - can you separate the video into chapters? Thanks!
"Cruising along with the rear wheels only." World record for longest wheelie. ;-D
Great test, thanks Kyle!
Subscribed. This is a great testing format. The end going below zero is nerve wracking!
Love tests like this 👍😎👍
Great video Kyle keep up the great content
Dear Kyle, Great test as usual. When will you reveiw the Cadillac Lyriq?
Great video! Love the range tests. Pretty solid for the performance trim!
You are doing good 👍 on the testing. But for most of us 0 on the main cars gage is what we do. The buffer is a good thing. But most will never get that low.
Man! There are a ton of buttons and knobs on that steering wheel! Great review Kyle!
That interior is absolutly gorgeous looking
10:01 - Here comes the head up display!
Your camera work at the beginning of this video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Good test!
Good video. Seems like a nice car. Can you do a charging curve analysis on the GV60? Thanks.
haha did I hear Bjorn style? I'm glad you've referenced the father of EV testing
I was waiting for you to do a GV60 road test...I own a model 3, but I am really feeing that Genesis...
Love watching the many review videos you guys have done! Have helped with knowledge and opinions on which brands are best and which aren’t.
2 questions: 1. is the Chevy blazer on your to do list? 2. Do you guys plan to do any road trips thru the Midwest? I would love to see how range anxiety plays a roll on one of the major interstates (I-64) because I don’t see many electrify americas in the Midwest besides Chicago and mainly highly populated areas. I understand it’s a growing charging station company, but I feel like most out of specs videos are where you guys don’t experience range anxiety due to the accessibility of being out of the west coast. (Food for thought. Would love to hear what you have to say!)
Thanks for what you guys do!
dont buy a chevy blazer.
Didn't stop at the stop sign !!! OMG!
Joking aside, I love these videos.
Our favourite is also the ioniq 5. Awesome car
Love your reviews! I own GV60. How comfortable would you be in driving to Phonenix from Denver?? A couple stretches seem to be 200 miles -- pushing the range threshold.
us gv60 models will be equipped with hda1 due to semicondudtor shortage. KDM is hda2
At 8:00, when you mentioned the car said you couldn't drive on that road, I had a similar experience with my Ioniq 5: a road nearby is a regular two-way suburban road by the car warned my I was driging the wrong way of a oneway. Only way to get rid of the warning in the cluster was to go in the car map (not CarPlay) and dismiss the error. There's no quick button to report a problem.
In the UK had a similar report of driving the wrong way. Was fixed in a recent automatic OTA update.
Awesome review. I keep telling my wife that I hope I meet you In FoCoCo someday to talk EV. She laughs at me.
Never knew Dave was your pops!
Hi Kyle, which phone holder is that attached to the steering wheel? Would you recommend it?
Could you please talk about the software experience in all the cars you review. I’ve been testing a few cars and no one on TH-cam talks about software experience - we should realize that software experience is becoming the key differentiator here.
2 elements you should talk about: app experience (entering the car, controlling the car via app, driver profiles etc.), in car infotainment experience ( navigation experience, charging station routing, charging information etc.)
Excellent video…. Question? What is the app you’re using to check on the batteries condition as you got near zero?
It’s car scanner
what battery diagnostic app are you using on your phone? Looking at getting one for my Ioniq
I appreciate the videos and would love to see a GV70 electrified review and range test as that's what I'm thinking of trading my Tesla Model 3 lr for. But can you please keep it in I-drive when doing the tests. As most, (or atleast myself) would always keep it in that for 1 pedal driving.
I also agree with some other comments, the tests shouldn't go below 0%, I've had to tow before after running out on the highway, I don't recommend anyone try test or drive below 0% huge inconvenience. Great Videos 👍
Correction: EV6 Wind w/ tech is only HDA 1.
Just saw the new delorean I hope you'll get a closer look at that car. I do like the inside of this genesis than most EVs.
Kyle, What is the app you use to show the status of the car?
I think everyone here agrees with me when I say Those are some awesome mag wheels.
Sorry if I missed it. Is that a Bluetooth OBD2 scanner app? If so what app?
Kyle’s slipping…. He almost took a couple of breaths within this constant verbal assault…. Caffeine must be his friend!!😂
Seriously. They need to start working on some semblance scripts and actual editing. There is a reason they don't have section markers as they are usually "Kyle points cell phone and just talks non-stop about whatever for an hour". As this is not a full review video it should be 10 minutes at most.
@@curtisbme It's a plus for me actually... Listening to Kyle ramble in the background is for some reason really soothing. If the only things I wanted were the results I would be frustrated as well.
What app is that, if I missed it. Thanks!
Also, that interior is… interesting. I much prefer EV6 Wind interior.
what obd dongle and app do you use on the iphone?
That’s in line with Car and Drivers most recent test where they said - “On our 75-mph highway fuel economy test route, the GV60 Performance provided an observed driving range of 200 miles.”
235 miles of range at 70MPH, no hypermiling required
Impressive
Hi - for those GV60 owners, how warm does the cabin get in the winter? Can it handle winters in Vermont? Does the lack of range get frustrating? Thanks! Jim
We can actually see the HUD by the way
I actually see the holographic display! That's cool
@Out of Spec Reviews 4:37 EV6 Wind w/ Tech Package does NOT have HDA II
Great channel watched a good number of your videos. One suggestion, please do a real world highway test at 75 or 80 mph. In Texas most highways are either 75 or 80. Even in this video the highway speed is 75 and your going below.
Yea, i want 80mph tests for sure. Who drives at 70?
Depends on where you are. In my state 75 is the high end way outside the city. Most highways around here are 60.
@@bartekr12 , I did and I got a speeding ticket...
Probably closer to 185-200 at 75-80
Best interior on this platform... Still, I dig looks of teh Ioniq 5, then EV6...
Please show and explain how the regen paddle shift system works. How does it compare to the GM regen on demand setup and paddle shifting in an ICE vehicle.
This Genesis car, along with EV6 and Ioniq 5 siblings, has 0/1/2/3 for regen levels - each pull of the paddle indexes to the next nevel . Regen 3 is pretty good electric braking. No paddle shifting (gears).
@@dennislyon5412 ok, how does that effect speed? I'm looking for vehicle control that is similar to downshifting in an ICE vehicle.
@@garycross90 - regen braking has a similar feel to the braking effect you’d get if you downshifted when slowing in a manual trans car. In that sense the engine has more compression strokes per second so the engine offers more resistance, and the car slows down more than it would in a higher gear.
@@garycross90 If you're looking for engine-braking effect, just put it on max-regen - you only need to play with the paddles if you want to switch between coasting and engine braking.
@@logicalChimp I want to use the regen paddle for variable regen braking during a turn approach without using mechanical brakes, not as a setting switch. I want to use the throttle and regen for variable speed gain and retard to "work" the car into the attitude I want. I think GM's regen on demand will give me that.
Got to go now baby if I hurry I can still make Cheyenne LOL
Kyle, if these range tests are for the benefit of others, especially those interested in buying an EV as their next car, why is it that you take it below zero percent if basically no owner is going to do that? Just wondering.
Not much different than doing a range test with gas until the engine dies. It's good to know the real max and build your buffer on top of there rather than not know how much buffer there really is and be adding buffer on top of that.
If I am not mistaken, the advertised range is exactly that: 100% to 0% indicated. Your practical range would be less of course, i.e., going to zero should be avoided if possible.
Does anyone know which module Kyle is pairing with his phone for the data readout? I’ve got a GV60 allegedly being delivered this week and would love to rig that up.
I believe any Bluetooth obd ii module gets that info
At 9:28, what's a President's Choice trailer doing down that far south? I wasn't aware that the Loblaws empire had expanded so far.
Why do you Americans NOT have the camera side "mirrors" like we do here in Australia, or Europe or Asia ? These electronic side video screen mirrors are brilliant in low light or in wet weather , give the best blind spot coverage and of course, minimise the wind noise due to its much smaller size. Why don't American models offer this great feature ? ( Is it because you still haven't embraced the metric system ? )
I get why people run in eco mode, but how is the passing power when using it? One of the main things I like about my Tesla is that when I want to pass someone on a road trip it is all there, no changing drive modes or pushing a "nos" button required. What's the "normal" mode range like that has all power available? I like the look of the EV6, but the idea of driving around in gutless mode is about as exciting as my Hyundai Tucson.
Usually, 'eco mode' in an EV just softens the pedal response - it doesn't usually reduce the output of the motor, or so I understand.
@@logicalChimp In the UK I have the GV60 RWD version and that is exactly the case - the throttle response is heightened such that the car actually accelerates a bit going from ECO to SPORT without any further press of the accelerator. Essentially the accelerator mapping changes - a smaller press delivering more power.
The 0-62mph in 7.8 seconds quoted acceleration figure and the 350 Nm torque available from 0 rpm (almost the same torque as a Nissan 350Z at 4800rpm) means it is plenty responsive enough for over taking and joining motorways in my experience.
Eco mode actually allows the car to drive in rear wheel motor only mode when above about 15 mph
is it me, gv60 looks really good on this color... or it has grown on me? i dunno..
I am impressed by the Hyundai/Kia products. I do have a question that this review prompted: why are most of these EVs built on RWD or AWD rather than FWD platforms? This goes for the Hyundais, Ford MachE, Tesla, and others.
There is no technical reason I can think of (unless the desire to advertise a frunk outweighs winter driving.)
Have you tested RWD examples in snow and ice?
I ask because I live in Michigan and RWD is usually the worst option in the winter and it feels like they are essentially forcing people to pay to upgrade to AWD.
I’ve heard RWD is the better handling dynamics option in good weather if only a single motor is being used.
And that contrary to popular belief changing to snow tyres is the single best solution to winter driving much more so than having front wheel drive. And particular for EV because the motor module is so light compared to an ICE engine the benefit of weight over the driving wheels of a FWD configuration is lost in an EV.
Which car scanner app is that he uses? I am using Android by the way.
Car Scanner ELM OBD2 for iOS and Android
Please do ioniq 5 RWD vs awd, waited for a year now. My ioniq 5 RWD gets 3.5 at 70. Prove me please
I wonder what that Full Stop sign means...
So, pretty much on par with EV6 GT then?
There is a freeway in Texas where you can drive 85 mph. That would definitely lessen the range.
Nominally, 47% higher aero drag at 85 mph than at 70 mph (square of the speeds ratio).
IPhone did pick up your HUD btw 👍
Have yet to see a real-world fast-charge figure. Minutes to full, please?
wait thats your dad..lol CT in the house...
So this is only 33% more efficient than a big heavy boxy F150 Lightning that also has way more HP and TQ? Nice little car but for something that small and at that price point I’d expect over 4 mi/kWh. Hopefully Aptera makes it to market and you get to test what an EV should be.
Aptera is not even a car, and not practical for many people as a daily driver and family vehicle, it will be an expensive toy for many buyers
You look young; wait another 10 years and your wish may be granted by then.
Hey Kyle wtf is up with your channel man you guys got so many out of spec channels it gets hard for us viewers to follow through and there just ain’t this one problem there are several videos where some random guys show up and we don’t know most of them that is really fed up you should really start focusing on that speacially for new viewers
Pretty good for a Start Up Korean Company maybe in 10 years they will be up to 400 miles on a charge!
Hmmm - not used to seeing Hyundai referred to as a 'start up' :D
Yup inefficient. I was pushing EV6 somewhere in PA for a long stretch doing 80mph+, reaching EA stations like 3% after under 200 miles. I have done Tesla Y and S same way with more than that left in the batteries.
So, NEVER used the front motor?
Doesn't need it as highway speeds in eco mode. It's a quick button push away. But there is no lack of torque or power. On the highway running on one motor.
Why is TH-cam suggesting old content ??? Anything older than 6 months to me is outdated.
Genesis was messing with us on this one.
True, they should have charged much more
70 mph in TX is slowwwww. we go 80 plus!
Not exactly.
www.txdot.gov/driver/signs-and-signals/speed-limits/setting.html#:~:text=The%20law%20sets%20the%20maximum,a%20traffic%20or%20engineering%20study.
There's SOME TX roads that hit 80-85 as the limit, but the standard is actually 70-75. You personally might be going 80, but these tests can only be done with the most common allowances to be useful.
85-90 is pretty common. At those speeds though BEVs don’t run efficient
There is a lot of world outside of Texas.
Try it @ 75mph which is more likely what most do on the highways.
They've been doing every car they test at 70mph. Changing that would be silly at this point. Highways all over the place have different speed limits and traffic speeds.
And the answer? Slightly less.
Just assume 10 % less in this case.
Regionally dependant though, 70 is a good long distant average highway speed that's legal in most places
@@forbesjeff , the aero drag would be 15% higher.
Tom are you watching test?
HDA 1 because of chip shortage.
I’m not a fan of this model, I would probably pick EV6 or Ionic 5 first. Seems like all 3 cars get about the same range.
It's almost like they're basically the same car or something ;)
@@forbesjeff Like ID4, Q4 etron and the Enyaq. 😉
I wish you could turn off the foot lights
How much does the car weight increase from 0% to 100% charge?
That’s an interesting question how much does 77.4KWh of electricity weigh?
I’m sure a chemist out there could do the calculation for us.
@@Antiguan_Dart Maybe an easier way would be to weigh the car at near 0% and then when it is at 100%. They just need to find a charging location close to a vehicle/truck scale. Crude but in theory it should work.
Probably a couple of grams, not noticeable,i think.
Probably almost the same, but a good question for a physicist.
keep bringing your cars for free air checks!
so to 80% about 200 miles of range?
That's about accurate. I just drove 211 miles at 70ish MPH and used 88% charge. Speeds varied a bit as my drive crossed lots of urban and rural areas.
@@apaskey was that amount of range good enough for you?
@@mts982 this amount is perfect for me. I usually stop for a meal on a long drive and to use a restroom. With the speed of charging on this car it manages with these stops perfectly.
Regen at highway speeds is not optimal.
20 kWh / 100 km
flat plains you look forward to a curve, fast charging does not give you a complete charge compaired to a slow charge
For the price, the range needs to be above 300 miles.
Really? NO HDA2 on a car that expensive? 🙃
Apparently vehicles were shipped with this feature temporarily removed due to chip shortage. In the UK my GV60 Premier RWD ( which I got very early on June 23rd 2022 presumably before being affected by the shortage ) has HDA2.
Nice test, but 235 miles in eco mode seems kind of a joke for so much money - maybe get 2 Bolts instead
I love my Bolt, but no. 45-50 minute DC fast charging vs. ~18 minute DC fast charging makes a veeeeery good argument against spending the money for 2 Bolts. This car will make your road tripping muuuuch faster.
Edit: and we really shouldn't be comparing this to a Bolt. This is luxury car. If you're eying this in the first place, the Bolt is not for you.
Yeah. This is substantially under real world range of a BMW i4, for example. Another vehicle one can’t actually buy anytime soon 😏
@@b286guy that is my biggest complaint - you can't really buy any of these cars if you need it in a year
Tax credit is gone for most of these EVs. The new value on any vehicle are those with full tax credits PHEVs made in USA next year.
That's what they should have been giving tax credits for all along ev infrastructure is not completely finished hybrids will be what everyone buys because they are actually useable
New tax credits won't be available for Hyundai, Kia or Genesis.
@@justinjones6810 Sure, hybrid’s are usable. And are fairly efficient when used properly. However, most people that drive hybrids rarely take advantage of the battery side of the cars technology properly. And fully electric cars are quite useful as well, but you you really have to be all in on electrification and committed to weaning yourself off fossil fuels. Currently, not everyone can transition to EV’s easily for a multitude of reasons but they’re getting a lot better very quickly. The problem I have with hybrids is the fact that with hybrids, you’ve got two complex technologies stuffed into an automobile. And the ICE engine is clearly the most complex of the two with the same old predictable breakdowns and routine maintenance you see in every ICE vehicle on the road.
@@bluedog9935 Exactly. I read someplace that less than 20% of PHEV owners ever plug in. They are a joke, especially as to qualifying for tax credits.
@@xsleep1 It’s ridiculous that they were included at all. This will encourage legacy auto to continue to drag their feet on making the transition to better BEV’s. Of course we don’t want perfect to be the enemy of good but this bill could have been so much better…
I am not impressed with inside or outside. Not buying unless the price is 30-40% cheaper than Tesla.
Awful electric motor noise compering to my Tesla YP
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It is good to see that these vehicles being exposed for what they really are as not being practical at this time. Hopefully this will change in the near future.
'exposed'? As Kyle said, it hit its stated EPA 'combined' range solely whilst doing 70mph on the highway. Yeah, the range isn't great - but at least they put up pretty accurate EPA numbers, so they weren't exactly hiding it.
My petrol Mazda Rx-8 229 bhp of a few years ago in the UK only had a motorway range of 275 miles per full tank.
I think approx. 250 miles on the motorway for these first batch of BEV is very commendable and usable with the caveat that they charge fast so 800V architecture is a must for a road trip vehicle in my book.
@@Antiguan_Dart then you must have drove it like a mad man because on the HWY they are rated at around 370 miles.
@@logicalChimp yes exposed. Over priced, too short a range, too long to charge, and battery life too short.
@@Antiguan_Dart Same here... I had an older tuned-up RX7, and was lucky to get 250 miles on a tank (80 litre!)
And yes, faster charging should definitely be the goal, rather than more range, imo
Only traveling 235 mile @ 70mph is hilarious. M3lr can go 300 miles @ 80 mph and uses both motors.
cool story bro. Considering it's a LR is should. The GV60 looks like a great first EV for Genesis.
How bout that new Kia ev6 gt at 206 miles of range for a 2023 model year 65k+ev. 😀
Tesla Model Y only gets 250-70 miles around 80mph. But that’s with hvac on pretty high
I sold my Model 3 Performance for a GV60 performance and have zero regrets
I own a Model 3 Long Range and there's no way it'll do 300 miles at 80mph. With the base wheels it will probably do it at 70mph. It'll do maybe 260 at 80mph.
This car resembles Peugeot 208 in the back and Tesla y in the front
the styling is kind of ugly and weird. it's the opposite clean and simple.
Reallly weird looking
Tesla wins.