1 Year of Genesis GV60 Performance Ownership - The Good AND The Bad
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2023
- Okay actually it's about 1 year and 2 months of ownership with our GV60 but we never did our one year update!
Here's all the good and all the bad that we've experienced with our GV60.
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THE GOOD
00:50 The interior
01:16 Build quality, fit & finish
02:02 The driver's seat
03:36 The horsepower
04:28 The ride quality
05:38 The regen system
06:42 The scroll wheel
07:43 Face unlock
08:48 Many more awesome features
09:23 Purchasing and servicing
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THE BAD
12:24 Phantom braking left turns
14:06 Phantom braking reversing
14:51 Efficiency glitch
15:18 Digital key
16:06 Fingerprint start
16:53 Smartphone app
17:32 So should you buy one?
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I could not agree with you more. I have the same model, color 2023 GV60 that i purchased in August 2023. This is my favorite car ever!!! The most fun..most comfortable…and the most unique. With the perfect fit and finish, face recognition, and fingerprint reader. It even has a crystal ball. Loved your review. And I have had the same positive experience. So far, I have not experienced phantom braking. The fingerprint works maybe about 50% of the time…my only complaint…
Glad yours has been doing well! Ah that fingerprint reader really is no good, which is so disappointing because face unlock works so well!
@@CarsJubilee the random braking thing is also an issue with Teslas. I find it extremely dangerous and do not know why manufacturers are allowed to get away with this. Humans are more advanced than these robotic supposed 'safety' features. Until they are improved and perfected they should NOT be allowed in cars. I fin dit extremely frustrating and cannot permanently remove them from my Model 3. Each time you start the car they are reinstated.
Is your phantom braking only occuring with autopilot engaged? Lots of data and discussions on that, very unfortunate how it happens randomly.
My gv60 phantom breaks without driving assist engaged. Does it on left turns when one of the sensors kicks up a car that's not remotely close.
@@CarsJubilee I have not had any problems with phantom braking with my GV60.
Ordered mine today. We're older, so likely going to have the fob with us. Our last car was a towable behind RV, but before that our cars were luxury cars....looking forward to that again. Concerned about snow tires but will see how it goes . West coast BC. Only put 7000 miles per year on it, so should go the distance for us.
I love my Performance GV60! Like yourself, I never have any back issues when I drive my car, and the ride quality is the best I have driven bar none, and I owned a Cadillac CT6 with magnatic ride (which I traded to get my Genesis), and the awesome sound system. The few things I hate about my GV60 is that the lack of wireless Android auto (so I had to purchase an adapter to use that), and the low range compared to Tesla and the Cadillac Lyriq. I do plan to trade it around 2025 for the Genesis Electric GV70. Me being a big guy (bodybuilder) I need something bigger so I can get in and out the car easier (lol).
Ahh I've been very curious about the GV70 electrified as well, gorgeous car.
Agreed about AA, I think my USB port is faulty because it's constantly disconnecting too. It's a shame it's not just a quick software update to make it wireless capable.
Hahah must be a pretty snug fit right now.
@CarsJubilee I have the same issue with my AA as well! It has to be the port because I don't have that issue in my 2021 F-150 playing wireless or wired AA.
@jonathansims9406 I've heard lots of owners complain and eventually get them replaced under warranty, I may try that to see if that fixes it.
@@CarsJubilee My USB also often disconnects when using Android Auto, I thought it was just my cable - as in multiple times in one driving session. Seems like this is very common. I will raise it at my next service.
Thanks for another informative review. I purchased a Genesis GV60 Advanced four months ago and have yet to encounter a mechanical, electrical or design fault of any kind. The car is a technological marvel and provides an exceptional driving experience. My purchase was based on evaluating scores of youtube reviews on all EV crossovers with an MSRP less than $70k. I test drove the Tesla Y, EV6, Ioniq 5, and Ariya. Based on the reviews, American and European EVs were not considered. Even though the most expensive, the GV60 was the clear cut winner in Form and Function.
You're welcome, and glad to hear yours has been great for you!
I agree, if you want something a little more premium this checks probably the most boxes. It really is my favorite EV so far but the servicing has been an issue.
Cherry Hill, NJ? Great to see a fellow NJ content creator and great review! I'm looking to get into my first EV in the next year or 2 and found this very informative.
Good to see you back with some GV60 content Victor😊! I agree, this has been my favorite car I’ve ever owned. It’s just an awesome combination of power/comfort/luxury in a practical package. I totally agree with you that the seats have been the best car seats I’ve ever had. I also have lower back issues (the baller in us!)…I think due to the relatively firm cushions and great lumbar/seat adjustments. One problem I still haven’t resolved is that my side bolsters doesn’t contract upon entering Sport mode. Have you experienced this at all? My local service advisor in NYC hasn’t heard of that issue, but will have it checked when my service appt comes up. Unfortunately booking appts is horrendous, it’s been 2 months and I’m still waiting. At least I’ll have valet pick up and a loaner.😊
Thanks Stan, glad I was finally able to give this amazing EV some screen time! Hahah yes, finally hit the court after about a year off of recovering from my 2nd torn Achilles!
Now that you mention it I don't remember my side bolsters contracting either when entering sport mode. I'll have to check that again.
I feel you about those service appts, took me 2 months as well to get in. Thankfully we have the valet loaners, that makes the wait worth it for me haha.
Btw- just curious…the dealer I originally bought the car from said they only do Valet pick up within a 10 miles radius. Have you (or your other readers?) come across this issue? I’m about 30 miles away but was never told of this “limitation” when I purchased the car. I’ve subsequently booked my Svce appt at another dealer that’s closer, but prefer to go to my original dealer as they were EV-certified longer.
HI. Try using 10 keys to disconnect the negative terminal of the 12-volt battery for 1 minute.
The system will restart. And that may help with the sport seat setting.
Thanks for the review! On the phantom braking - I've only encountered this once in my GV60. I think it has to do in part to a delayed warning response from the sensors detecting an object. When I experienced it, I was accelerating out from behind another car. Admittedly I got pretty close as I was moving to the other lane. So I wasn't surprised that my safety beeps went off, but they were late and so I got the emergency braking response when I was pretty much in the other lane already. I wonder if you experienced the same thing that video you posted. I haven't had the sudden braking since, but I do still notice the safety warnings going off later than they should sometimes.
You're welcome! Your experience sounds very similar to the one posted so maybe there's some software issues at play. I do get that very frequently when pulling out of parking spots and there are cars around that are in motion.
The other two times it happened I was driving very slowly, once was with the whole family in the car on a Sunday afternoon. I made very safe left turns like someone trying to pass a driver's test but the car stopped us dead in our tracks.
I wish it was easy to replicate but that's been the problem, they haven't been able to replicate. I even tried to replicate it myself where I left turned aggressively in the gv60 while my wife crossed the intersection in our ioniq 5. Did about 10 passes and couldn't get the car to emergency brake a single time. So it's very unpredictable currently.
@@CarsJubilee Ah dang, yeah sounds trickier than I thought. Hope there's some revelation by someone and it gets addressed!
Great video review thanks. Do you have the upgraded B&O sound system or the standard one?
My performance has the 17 speaker B&O system. I believe the B&O comes standard on all trims here in the US, not sure if that's the case in other markets.
@@CarsJubilee Thanks for coming back to me. Yes it’s an upgrade option here in UK on all 3 specs
I like that hat. What brand is it? Nice video looking at one of these today. Thanks for the review.
Thank you for your videos. The phantom braking is basically what scares me off from buying a GV60. I’m looking forward to the VW id7 for now. The GV60 def has the style I like, but the safety issues, combined with lower range, are too much for me to put money into.
You're welcome, I think the phantom braking is a problem that may be specific to only my car. Other owners are making left turns without issue.
I'm pretty sure if Genesis gave me a different GV60 that I wouldn't be having these issues. I've asked, they've refused to lend one to me or swap me into a different one.
I actually wouldn't hesitate to buy one if I were in the market right now, I don't think this phantom braking is widespread. It's the best car I've ever owned but just a bad experience with corporate and poor smart phone app issues. I wish I could have the gv60 but with the Tesla app.
I've had my GV60 since February 2023, and haven't had a single phantom breaking moment. To his point, it's probably a specific issue to his car only. I'd recommend this car in a heartbeat.
At 12:36 They need to do the testing on the exact intersections that it is failing for you. Otherwise they are eliminating a key piece of valuable data.
Ya tell me about it. It needs to be tested at unprotected left turns at a traffic light going through active opposing traffic.
However, the dealership is located in New Jersey where this type of left turn does not exist. They only have protected left turns or jug handle turns. So they have never actually tested it correctly to date.
Sounds like something is reflecting off of your sensors... GREAT review! I'm going to test drive one....
Thanks! Ya could be, dealership and Genesis engineers have no idea.
@@CarsJubilee my Lexus does it in reverse... 🤦🏾♂️
Hello Victor how are you . I have now been driving my GV 60 for 15 months like you I still love the car, if you remember way back i was also having a slight problem with the phantom braking , it seem they have cured mine with a complete up dates as I haven't had it happen since, the only other real problem I was not able getting the pre conditioning to work it turned out the problem was with the nav system all working good now . I just did a road trip from Vancouver to Calgary my total round trip was 2500 miles no problem at all loved the car so easy to spend hours in this car . My range was also very good 280 to 310 miles and the best part is here in BC we have many Chevron EV fast chargers and they are free . I have not paid for any charging since last Nov , I have a charger at home I have only used it once just to see how it works. I agree with you this has to be one if not the best EV on the market dollar for dollar. Also like you my finger print reader is hit and miss door camera 100% . If there is one thing I would t like o change it would be the centre console I wish it would slide like the Ioniq 5 . Thanks Victor great video.
Hey Shaun, glad to hear they were able to fix your issues! I'm jealous of the service dept you have working on your car!
That's excellent efficiency you are getting, just one of the many great features about the gv60. Glad you are enjoying it!
Thanks for a warts and all review of this car. I have the fully loaded ( except for digital wing mirrors) Premium RWD model (bought June 2022) in the UK. I simply enjoy being in and driving this car - comfortable, luxurious, practical (boot space/length/HVAC and other controls), swift (though not a rapid as the more powerful Sport or Sport Plus versions), great tech, great efficiency (3.5 mi/kWh over the life of the car some 12K miles into my second Winter and having done some Summer road trips) , great range and fantastic charging speed. I truly haven’t seen another car, in the 16 months I’ve owned this, which I’d rather have.
For me with a single toddler child family it is perfect!
You're welcome and glad yours has been doing well! I love it even though it's had some issues, such an amazing small but big inside EV. Great for urban settings with small families.
Got android pixel 7 pro digital key working in early August! Its a bit tricky to set up but there are instructions out there on a forum (I think they are labeled for the Ioniq 5, but it works). Have definitely found that to be a bit less reliable than it is on the samsung phone though. Have had no issues with the fingerprint reader at least. Mine definitely always taps the breaks on the way into the garage, every time, but I park very closely to objects.
Whoa they finally added compatibility? I just checked on my new Pixel 8 Pro and it's showing as compatible, finally after 1.5 years haha.
But I followed the prompts and checked that it was enabled on my account but getting error that it cannot pair.
Do you happen to have the forum link? I tried searching but none of them seem to discuss it too in depth.
For the left turn phantom breaking in the ionic 5. Is it just that 1 location or is it multiple locations? Do the other 2 cars have a problem with that same location?
3 different intersections, only happens to my GV60. I've driven the same roads and made the same turns in all 3 of our EVs and it's only ever happened in the gv60.
Hi. I work at a forensic lab. Your fingerprint does not change. :)
Hahaha good to know! Any idea why my fingerprint never works on readers consistently?
@@CarsJubilee no clue. I always do different angles on my thumb for phones each time it asks when programming it in
😂😂
I've reprogrammed a bunch of times trying different angles, even tried using different fingers but it just doesn't seem to like my prints.
Hi, I have the same car since 6 months. No phantoms issues, but problems with my fingerprints too. The left rear seat buckle damage my seat cover. Many recalls from Genesis, front passenger seat belt two times, rear axles changed and ICCU update. How about you ? Very good service from my dealer.
Oh wow did they replace seat cover?
Ya mine has been at dealership for past 10 days getting recall and warranty repair work done.
I love the valet loaner service so I don't have to spend time on servicing. Very good service experience from them but my software issues and phantom braking are too advanced for them to handle.
@@CarsJubilee I called someone to repair it, and after I see that the seat belt buckle was responsible. If that situation happen again, they will replace the whole cover. The problem is the back is too tight when I fold down. I must be sure than the buckle is up. Repair is never more than a day 😉
Hey Victor. Got a question on a GV60 feature that I can't seem to find the answer: Is there a speed limit setting that notifies you with an audio sound when you exceed the posted speed limit? I can only find the visual notification setting (i.e. speed limit icon turns red). Just thought if either you or your viewers can help. Many thanks.
Mine has a chime go off if im using hda and tell it to go over speed limit. I have not heard anything go off otherwise.
Ahh. Hda. That must be it. 🙏 Victor
How about OTA updates for GV60 - are all available same way like for Tesla cars? Or only navigation updates are OTA for GV60 ?
Navigation and minor user interface updates only (like a new background clock screen, reskinned pages, etc) OTA. I've had about 2 OTA updates in over 1 year that were all very minor cosmetic changes.
GV60 needs to go to the dealership for true software updates that affect the drivetrain etc.
I've had about 3 software updates with my Model y in about 4 months, much more substantial updates as well like adding functionality to buttons, new game, etc.
What you see is what you get for the most part with the gv60, it's not going to be 'getting better' over time with updates because of how infrequent and how limited those updates are.
Hey Victor, have you had any issues like us with I6, I5, charging at home? Lvl2.?
I think I've been extremely fortunate on that front. My Ioniq 5 and GV60 have not had a single home charging issue. I've charged at 40amps with no issues. My charger can do 48amps but I've never tried it on that setting. I know my breaker and wiring can handle it but it's pushing the limits so never tried.
So surprisingly I seem to have avoided this issue. I feel for all of you that have had that as a major issue. That's like not being able to fill gas into a gas car. Hyundai needs to come up with a true fix - wire size related, not just software updates that limit charging speeds to decrease heat.
Nice. The GV70 electrified is about the same size inside. Think I might miss my G90 even if it is 5 years old.
I actually just spent the last week in a loaner E-GV70 haha. The gv60 actually has more leg room, according to specs and by feel. I was quite surprised.
Ah I keep wanting to sample the g90 but they don't have one in the loaner fleet. E-G80 is the closest I've gotten.
I’m in Oregon and for some reason there is no Genesis dealership nearby. You say this is your daily driver, how much are you using the Model Y? I’m hoping the 2025 Ioniq 5 will have substantial improvements so I’m waiting for that to come out.
That's surprising that they don't have a Genesis dealership out there yet. On the plus side when they eventually do get out there it'll probably be a standalone one vs all the half Hyundai half Genesis ones.
We've been taking the Y everywhere we go as a family and my wife has been talking it around for errands too. Only about 1500 miles on it in about 3 months but that should pick up in the next few months when my wife goes back to work.
I'm very curious to see what they do for 2025, I'm afraid it may be more cost cutting because they have to sell way below MSRP nowadays to stay competitive. I hope I'm wrong but I have a hard time seeing them making major improvements, well maybe a rear wiper haha.
Have you tried unlocking the door with a printed photograph of your face? Or a cell phone screen image of your face? Also, the gas version of that car does the same phantom breaking thing. I rented one last year and was going nuts. It was CONSTANTLY stopping at low speeds in twisty areas like at the Mt Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge MA. It was so bad, I swore I would never drive one of those again. :\ Sad to hear it's going on with yours too.
Most left-turn shutdowns are caused by battery cell liquid shifting.
If you don't have a liquid electrolyte battery in this car, then look for stability control problems not throwing-up codes.
Mine are very specific left turns where it only happens when cutting through opposing traffic. If there's no one nearby it doesn't happen.
I remember back in the day when some cars would shutoff if you went full turn with the steering wheel at slow speeds.
Does GV60 use "Low Conductivity Coolant" same as IONIQ5?
My understanding is that it does NOT have that same coolant that needs to be changed out. Same goes for the EV6, apparently only the Ioniq 5 needs to have it changed at intervals.
Looks like a SW update should fix the phantom brakes. Even Tesla no longer has
Much phantom brakes and only occurs when AUtopilate is engaged. So these brakes just happen even when u are controlling the car?
I believe it is a sensor issue, it only happens when I am in full control and making an unprotected left turn through opposing lanes. This is very different from Tesla phantom braking which is always tied to the driver using autopilot. My Genesis phantom brakes only in a specific scenario with no driver assistance setting engaged.
Have they resolved the phantom breaking issue?
Unfortunately no, they've been adamant that there's nothing wrong.
I've turned the whole thing over to my lemon law attorney since Genesis doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
@@CarsJubilee thats unfortunate. i'm sorry its been such a hassle.
I appreciate that!
Some Genesis/Hyundai dealers are getting bought out and going Hyundai only near me. Changed twice.
Wow that's very interesting, are you sure the genesis dealers aren't moving to their own facilities? That's what's happening to my Genesis dealer, their new separate facility is under construction.
Great review. The phantom braking issue sounds scary. You didn’t mention how the range has held up, but it sounds like you don’t ever drive it very far so maybe you haven’t pushed it.
Thanks! Ya it's mainly used for daily commuting in and around the city so range has not been an issue.
In the summer time in city driving I'm seeing close to 300 miles on a full charge. In the winter that goes down to about 240.
If I'm doing pure highway driving at speed limit speeds, summer 260 miles and winter 200 miles.
@@CarsJubilee I'm renting a GV60 this weekend, so I've been studying the Owner's Manual. My goodness is it dull reading. Anyway, got to page 425 and read about the "Junction Turning function" that "can help avoid a collision with an oncoming vehicle in an adjacent lane when turning left (left- hand drive) or right (right-hand drive) at a crossroad with the turn signal on by applying emergency braking." That sounds exactly like the problem you have had, I immediately remembered this video. Did you see that in the manual? Anyway, this weekend should be interesting - I rented a Model Y last weekend so I'm very curious about the difference. I'll be purchasing one of them soon.
Low mileage GV60s are showing up used for < $50k which is pretty compelling.
Values have dropped like a rock haha. I think a low mileage performance trim gv60 for under 50k is a crazy good deal.
@@CarsJubilee Victor, do you know if it's possible to look at a GV60's charging history? e.g., how many times it was charged to 100% or nearly drained, how much fast charging it experienced, etc. I'm considering a used one and wondered if I can determine how much the battery was pampered.
@BrettBurdick there's not really an easy way unless they had a recurrent account, then all their charging would be logged there.
BUT if whoever is selling is willing to charge to 100% and then let you plug in an OBD2 reader, you can follow my instructions in my battery degradation video to get an idea of how the battery has held up.
If they won't charge to 100%, you can still run the same test but you will have to do some math to figure out what the remaining energy.
What is your height man? The car behind you looks sooo big!
Hahaha I'm only 5'5" so pretty much everything is going to look big next to me.
)) I was thinking maybe gv60 is a full size SUV!@@CarsJubilee
I love my gv60 - but I have one complaint. The phone charger is unusable. It cooks my phone - so hot it shuts down and that impacts car play.
I took it to Genesis and their response was a shrug. I’ve seen similar complaints … I now have to plug in a cable and charge it old school. Anyone having similar issues?
Ah I rarely use the wireless charger since I use a case. But that wouldn't surprise me at all.
Im assuming you have an iPhone? It seems like the iPhones heat up easily, my Samsung never has overheating issues.
Finger may have too dry skin. My android watch tells me my skin is too dry for some functions to work.
Haha possible, I have bad success rates with all fingerprint readers.
I would never have it record my face or fingerprint. Bu thats just my pref
12:36 That's a show stopper for me. Very dangerous.
You should report that to authorities. The manufacturer is dragging their feet.
Does face unlock work if you are ugly?
Face unlock doesn't discriminate :)
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