Thank you for the sub my friend. More content like this will be posted. It hurt me to make this, but it had to be done. Jeep is such a wonderful brand, its personal for me. Maybe this will change ideas at Jeep leadership.
Gone are the days when BMWs and Mercedes Benz made cars that a person could drive for years, sell it, and the next owner could drive it for more years. Those car makers found out that they couldn't make money on cars that lasted for at least 500 thousand miles. German engineering went out the window. Now they make cars that are meant to be leased for 3 years and then turned in for a newer model.
Honestly, I completely agree. I purchased a BMW M340i and aside from my house, that was the biggest purchase I have ever made. If it wasn't due to the fact that I need a performance car for my business, I simply wouldn't do it. And that wasn't even 80k.
Lol the process is easy to fix. Quit voting in Democrats. Have Term limits and don't allow conceted people to go to Congress. ( And when I say connected I mean on a multi national level Connected to huge Multi National companies. We need to shut off the idea of being lifelong government officials getting wealthy by corporate donors and worldwide elites.
Actually, it depends. In talking with my local Lamborghini dealer, I can order a new Huracan and it will be delivered in about two years. This is the price I pay to buy one at MSRP with no markup while the used car market prices are still insane. And all these prices are north of $230K. So I'd say if I can get a 2 year old Huracan with low mileage with documented service for $100K, I'd buy it in an instant much less at $80K!🙂🙂🙂
lol tell that to Any German manufacturer. No one wants an 80k jeep is what you’re saying.. People who can spend that for a car sure as hell don’t want a bullshit ass jeep.
@@A-BombEnergy People buy them too because of the lure of "exclusivity" so Stellantis just learns the wrong lessons from it. We've been wanting a factory V8 Jeep for YEARS but not current Jeep and not a four door only IMO.
@@GrymmEvil I would LOVE a factory V8 but not in that price range. I can accept the 4 door though, we differ there :) but yeah, I can pick up what you are putting down.
I guess it's a toss up between people upset about bail outs, and people who lost there jobs because there was no bail out. The politicians tend to prefer the former.
@@alexgamble4718 Yeah, but when our country finally goes bankrupt because our government spend money on stupid shit like it's going out of style a WHOLE LOT MORE people are gonna lose their jobs. Then the politicians are going to lose alot more then their jobs!
@@A-BombEnergy The off-road duty of the original Jeep has been filled by SxS and UTV's like Polaris line-up. Likewise the Toyota 4runner is a better general-purpose vehicle than the Jeep. So the Jeep's only loyal customers are those that want the image and recognition of owning an American icon. Jeep doesn't need to be a good to sell to these loyal customers, and they are enough of them to keep Stellantis in business.
The TJ is great, but I cant stand the idea of having the engine run by a computer. putting a down payment on a CJ5 with a chevy 350 small block swapped into it soon.
@@00x0xx I agree, it's like the people that still buy catilacs and Buicks because they think they're still good vehicles. Toyota is following the same notion that more technology makes a better car like most companies now on the other hand, the biggest problem with modern cars and trucks. You don't need your car to be constantly connected to a network or have different drive modes, you only need to know how to operate it
Can't, CAFE standards for fuel economy and car size make it impossible. A car needs to have x mpg per square foot and it goes up every year, having exceeded reasonable expectation so manufacturers must pay fines for not meeting it. So they build bigger, dumber cars and pay the government fines who pays them grants and both take your money for a garbage product you can't afford and don't want
Unfortunately that's what people are going after. That's why the High trim level Chevy and Ford pickups sell so well and why they have gotten so feature rich.
Problem is people would like the dealers if it wasnt a ram rod scam job. If we get rid of them now you cant go see the vehicle in person before you buy it.
Well….. The manufacturers have gone to NTSB With hat in hand asking for regulations that require expensive technology that isn’t necessary for purchasers but can’t opt out of. And then the dealership isn’t helping the situation
Can I ask you a serious question? The only “negative” (and I use quotations because I don’t think you mean to be negative) comment I’ve gotten is about the museum bit. Is me highlighting the high prices, lack of customer service, and poor manufacturing not clear enough in the video to where the only thing I hear a complaint about is the museum piece? I feel like those items I highlighted have very clear fixes, literally do the opposite. The impetus behind the museum, (which God help me I’m going to make it even more clear in the next video) is because I met a Porsche employee before and after he did the Porsche museum and track tour. The after was surprisingly different than the before. Thanks for commenting though, hope you have a great day.
They stopped making great jeeps once they killed off the TJ line. The 4.0 was the best motor they ever had. The vehicles size was perfect. And the coil spring suspension was the perfect combo for the vehicle.
The TJ frame is very susceptible to rust failure vs the older YJ frame. The coil springs are nice, but might as well get a nice 4.0 ZJ / WJ Grand Cherokee and build it up for the same price of a stock TJ with a good frame.
Almost 2 years ago I considered buying a Chrysler product, and was between a Wrangler, Gladiator, Cherokee, and a Ram 1500. I did a lot of research and decided against it. I went with a Lexus GX instead. It cost about the same as well-equipped Wrangler and has a bulletproof V-8. 30k miles later, it has never had even one minor mechanical issue and looks as good as the day we bought it.
Hey, I am really happy to hear that you are doing well with you Lexus. I have to say, that is a beautiful car and I imagine it will outlast 99% of cars on the market. Nobody can question the Toyota reliability. I saw those things everywhere in Africa, they usually had some interesting equipment mounted on them too...
GX and Land Cruiser are the best vehicles ever built. There's absolutely no comparison with any Chrysler product. You definitely made the right decision.
The problem is now even Toyota is having problems. They had to stop making the venerable 4.7 and 5.7 V8's. The new engines are having too many failures. Best you can say now is the (2023+) toyotas are the "Least Worst". When they used to be The Best.
You are not wrong at all. I bought my 2018 Jeep JL Manual Transmission...thinking "oh the manual will be bullet proof." NOPE. I have had the slave cylinder go out 3 times. Then I just recently had it overheat on me, and it was because of the metal cooling pipe got a pin size hole leak. What a horrible time it was replacing that pipe. Took 3 weeks with me every day working on it for about 1-2 hours.
I took my factory-ordered 2014 Cherokee Trailhawk in for the "free oil change" and upon arriving home and checking the oil discovered that the person who did the oil change filled the oil all the way to the top. Not kidding, I drained MANY quarts of oil out before it was to normal levels. It was the one and ONLY time I have or will ever have someone else change my oil and was a hard reminder as to why I never let others touch my vehicles.
Man that is nuts! Its like the simplest jobs get messed up. I changed the oil on my JL today and it was so easy, the trick though...you put 5 quarts of oil in...no more...no less...tough stuff haha.
The duality of the objective reality of the piss-poor state of American car manufacturers AND the fan boys swearing by them and pissing on any foreign brand because “USA Good” is so funny to me.
Brother, you couldn’t be any more correct. You should see what they said about me and this video in the forums, boy am I hated there lol. I can’t remember the exact term, but there is a psychological condition that people have when they defend something purely based on the fact that they own it. They feel you are attacking them and not the product. In the forums I got slaughtered because I own a BMW…how dare I exercise my right to drive what I want. What’s going to be more wild, is I am doing a video on Ford next, just posted the trailer, give it a look at let me know what you think. The full film will be out in June. Thanks for the comment brother, it was refreshing to read.
Jeep has a following that is second to none, but a big part of that has always been the low entry price. I’ve owned Jeeps for decades now, but I wouldn’t have if it wasn’t for being able to purchase an inexpensive Wrangler when I was young. They’ve now priced themselves completely out of the range of the younger generation and put themselves in the luxury car market with no basis for being there. Their packages in no way compare to those of other brands. Range Rover is really their main competitor now (at their price ranges), who also did something similar, but Rovers are luxury vehicles now. Jeep is trying to build base vehicles for luxury prices to rip off their loyal customer base. I currently own three Jeeps: a '22 Grand Cherokee, a '22 Gladiator, and a '93 Cherokee. At the pace the competition is going, my next upgrade will most likely be a Jeep competitor. We’ve been a Jeep family for years, and Jeep is failing us. I also agree the Jeep Wave program is a complete joke, and insulting to the Jeep community that began the real Jeep wave.
Brother, you are preaching some serious truth in this comment. My family has been a LOYAL Jeep family for a long time too, and I bought my first Jeep in 2018 after a deployment. Got ripped off by the dealer (they undercoated it and hid rust) and luckily, I was able to trade it in at a dealership in upstate NY and they didn't care about the rust. Got my Jeep JL brand new but it was such a stretch to purchase because how expensive it was. I cannot imagine now buying a Jeep for what they are asking. I just bought a 2022 BMW M340i...and WOW is that car a blast and its cheaper than MOST Jeeps. I still have my Jeeps and I love them...but I am not sure if I'll ever buy a new one. How do you like the Gladiator? I rented on in FL a year-ish go and I loved it tbh...almost considered getting one but I just couldn't do the price. Thanks for the sub and comment, it really helps.
@@A-BombEnergyI love the Gladiator. It’s exactly what I wanted in a Jeep truck - a Wrangler with a bed. It did take some getting used to though, as my previous two Jeeps before the Gladiator were a '14 JK 2-door, and a '99 TJ 2-door before that. The Gladiator is over double their length. However, now that I’m an older dad, I needed that extra space. With that said, this purchase is the one that made me start to see the failings of Jeep, and made me rethink my brand loyalty. I almost went with a Tacoma as you can get more features for about 10k less. Jeep didn’t even have adaptive cruise control until this year in any of their vehicles, and still, they won’t include it in sport models. With all that said, I love taking the top off so I still went with the Jeep. I’ve heard rumblings that Stellantis is starting to get the message, and maybe rethinking their pricing, and It appears they have begun to at least acknowledge they have to keep up with technology features to stay relevant. Here's hoping anyway.
Very true but… Ford is horrible as well now. Nothing worse than Stellantis, but in the last 20 years I don’t think an automaker’s reputation has dropped more than Fords. My business has 3 very nice Lariat F150s less than 10 years old and all less than 120k total all highway miles. All 3 have had to have complete transmission and engine replacements. If you want a current off-road vehicle, there’s only 2 choices: Suburu for fireroads and Toyota for the harder stuff. Everything else is a fools errand.
If it weren't for the Chicken Tax and our failed CAFE standards, the American car market would look very different. A lot of what's wrong with the American car industry falls at the feet of lawmakers. I'm kind of a sucker for defunct American brands; I miss Pontiac and Oldsmobile, if that points you in a direction. Good content! Subbed.
I absolutely love those oldie brands! I hate to say even old (Pontiac isn't old!). You speak a lot of truth my friend. Thank you for the sub, I hope to see you in the comments on the next documentary film. Coming soon :)
@@ILovePancakes24the chicken tax needs to be “CANCELLED” we need Toyota “HI-LUX” I wish a Canadian Economist would chime in Why no genuine Japanese trucks get imported into Canada ????
I purchased a 1995 XJ with the straight 6 new and put 260,000 miles on it with no major problems except the water pump at 115k miles. The Jeep was still in good shape when I sold it (big mistake). My next Jeep was a 2014 Wrangler that I purchased with 85k miles on it and holy hell it was a disaster. By 110k I had experienced an oil cooler failure, 3 seperate oil leaks, transmission problems and all sorts of electrical issues. It even left me stranded twice. Fast forward to today and I'm a proud Subaru owner and will never go back.
Wow! What a story good sir, I have heard many like this too. I have to say, my 2018 JL left me stranded once...and it was a horrible day at work and being stranded just intensified the complication of the day. My TJ and XJ has never left me stranded...so I fell ya. What kind of Subi do you have?
Sad but truly understood. I'm in a 03 TJ , 4.0, 5 spd. Mnl.that is going to be my last vehicle. Well unless it gets totaled in an accident, it doesn't leave the road.
My wife has a 93 4.0 with only 64,000 miles on it hard top a/c that the options. Been offered $12,000 This jeep is a keeper. Had a 2014 rubicon unlimited x package and sold it in 2022 with 5,500 miles on it. Just didnt feel like a real jeep. No ruff ride and as big as a tahoe just not a good trail vehicle. The other option I forgot its automatic just plain 3sd no overdrive this jeep cost me $16,000 never again will jeeps be this cheap also a 54 M38A1 and a Cj5 plain jane 3spd stick 258 6cyl
Yes, the new ones are junk. only good for a Hemi retrofit. I got a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee 285k still going maybe 10k in repairs in 29 years with that including 6 sets of new tires.
Wait. People are paying big bucks for a dealership to do an oil change and then they drain the extra quart of oil out?! Umm. If they are capable of draining engine oil, they ought to be doing their own oil changes!
People were draining the 1 quart of oil when they got the free oil change. They weren't paying for oil changes...although I am sure some do pay for them, but I doubt they are draining 1 quart of oil. I used my 4 free oil changes and drained 1 quart out every time. After the 4 free changes were used, I now change my own oil. It's simple and it doesn't get overfilled.
@@A-BombEnergy With all the extra oil you drained, you almost have enough oil for another oil change! You'd just have to find another quart somewhere. Lol
My friend had a newer Grand Cherokee that he dropped nearly $100,000 on an ir was in and out of the dealership constantly. The transmission needed a full replace when he had 1,000 miles left on the warranty, so luckily it was covered. While picking it up from the dealership he asked if the car was going to keep having issues, expecting the “oh this is just a freak thing don’t worry about it” answer. The service manager pulled him aside and said “sell this thing quick before the warranty runs out and buy something Japanese”. That shows the sort of brand confidence even the dealers have these days.
Wow this is a wild story to hear! I’m actually very surprised of the honesty of the sales manager. The GCs can be a decent vehicle but it’s so luck of the draw and that’s just wrong. Did your friend ever get rid of the GC? Thanks for commenting brother, sorry for the late reply, trying to be better at responding. Have a great weekend my friend. -Brandon
I payed 13900 for a 2004 jeep rubicon in 2008 with 36k miles. That is still on the road it has 182k miles. 4.0 liter and 5 speed manual transmission is the best option.
Isn't that wild how much you paid? But to be honest, I would pay that too. You have a quality vehicle and as long as the frame is good and it's not plagued with rust, engine and transmission (or in your case clutch) replacements are something you can do in your garage. What color is your rig?
I am going to Moab next year I khakis tan jeep. I also own a base 2011 Nissan frontier with 2.5 liter and manual transmission. Someone put a million miles on it. I saw the price was 8200 with 128k miles I purchased it in 2019. It has been reliable got 172k miles on it. Cost me 2 oil change a year and I replaced all 4 tires for 380 bucks. I use it to haul my dirt bikes.
@@A-BombEnergyI need to fix the rust on my 2004 Rubi. People keep asking why fix, buy newer... they just don't get the sharp decline in quality when the TJ line ended.
This cultural issue goes way beyond Chrysler and even the U.S. auto industry. This dysfunctional dynamic exists in our institutions of higher learning and throughout our elected government extending to the various bureaucracies they feed.
A lot of truth in this statement. I believe in Ethical Capitalism. It is a real concept and it's how I execute with my businesses. Thanks for the comment my friend.
Really it's the MBA culture. Make numbers for the month or the quarter regardless of the damage it causes in the future. They'll figure out how to cut costs to make up for future losses when the time comes. Numbers, numbers, numbers. Examples are Jeep haphazardly releasing the Ecodiesel in 14' despite Detroit engineers telling Fiat that the VM Motori engine would not work well in the application (US fuel and emissions systems are different than EU). They pushed it out anyway to pull sales to VM Motori (also owned by Fiat) and to rush to market. They lost their butts on it between EPA lawsuits, extremely high warranty claims, class action suits resulting in high legal fees, a $3K+ rebate to all buyers and extended warranty coverage on emissions systems, which are unreliable to begin with. Their crappy EGR coolers, plastic oil coolers, plastic intakes and other cheap parts failed and led to engine fires (EGR coolers started intake fires) and recalls. I have a 2014 JGC Summit and it had the entire exhaust/catalyst system replaced under recall the first year ($8K retail cost), it had the front timing cover seal and front main seal fail under warranty ($1700 retail), the EGR cooler recall (unsure of cost) resulted in intake, valve covers, injector tubes and turbo hoses being changed under the recall as they were all melted due to EGR cooler failure (was close to burning). 4,000 miles later (at 64K), the engine seized up without warning on a 225 mile road trip. It also had the leather dashboard delaminate under warranty ($1700) and it's delaminated again (not fixing it). Factory warranty expired and extended warranty has spent $22K to date and I'm pending a $9K transmission replacement as mine is throwing codes and flare shifting (warranty is dragging feet hoping it'll last until October when it expires). Trade in value is around the price of the transmission. The new engine with 25K on it is using a quart of oil per 500 miles and has already had a timing cover leak repaired, I don't have much faith in it and will dump it before the warranty runs out. I paid $58K new for it and am pretty sure that much has been spent on it in repairs between FCA and my extended warranty. I like RAM, Jeep Chrysler/Dodge vehicles, but I would never buy one again unless maybe it came with a bumper to bumper 100K factory warranty and a free loaner car whenever it has to go in the shop. That isn't going to happen as they know their quality isn't good enough to manage it, so I'm looking at other brands. I have 5 months before the warranty runs out and I don't want to own it one day after!
Business schools in general and MBA diploma mills like Harvard, etc, are creating absolutely abysmal business leaders that are running companies into the ground, and it extends far beyond Jeep. The intense focus on short term profits for Wall Street and ignoring quality and innovation is ruining companies all over the USA.
I’m so glad you picked up on some of the underlying themes of this video. Bless you. I’m working on a Ford video…that will blow your mind. Some of the stuff I found blew my mind! Thanks for commenting! Hope to see you in the comments when I upload that one 🇺🇸💪
I own a 2001 XJ with the 4.0. I rebuilt the engine as a stroker with a Tupy head. That was 20K ago and, at 188,000 miles, runs like a champ on 87. It's a phenomenal vehicle. My daughter and her husband want a Jeep. I am going to use your video to try and persuade them to avoid the recent Jeep models. My daily is a Subaru Crosstrek which is perfect for my purpose. I do love my XJ.
Your on the right track, honestly going back to before 2003. Sticking with the 4.0, and avoiding everything later model with the v6 motors. As a mechanic I've installed probably 10 or more 3.8 and 3.3 v6, and rebuilt 2 4.0 motors (that ran perfectly but knock or smoke from piston flop). If you want a solid 4x4 Toyota 4 runners are in the same neighborhood price wise, or, if it's just a small 4x4 toy your looking for.... Mahindra roxor. Straight axle, small, jeep looking, reliable 4 cylinder turbo diesel..... Just throwing out some other angles to avoid the pitfalls of what jeep stand for. Jeep Just Empty Every Pocket
Sounds like me and you have a lot in common! Rebuilding these bad boys is really fun and mind blowing with simplicity but yet they are built so well. I cannot believe what is happening to such a wonderful brand. Thank you for sharing my video with them, please feel free to reach out if you need any assistance with that situation. If they do get a new one...manual 3.6 is the only way to go.
@@antoniusp3295 Wow you got a rare one! Impossible to find a manual version! My 92 Laredo is an automatic...tbh I am shocked it is still running haha, maybe our girls can talk about their drinking problems hahaha!
Hey thats great news! What did you end up getting? I have owned/own many Jeeps and even my 2018 JL isn't horrible to work on. It took time to learn some things with it though.
My fellow americans are not really all that different from north korea ussr and nazi germany. Worse than Ussr car prices. Idiots who cant count the 2 genders nor properly count quarts of oil or votes.
The car companies don’t hate the consumers. They hate the fact that we repair our vehicles. That’s why they keep trying to make them more complicated and less reliable
They dont want us working on our own stuff because they make them so junk and expensive. Reliability and afforfability means different things to us than it does to the auto industry
In common with many companies, the emphasis is on making money. The product suffers as a result. And as long as the government continues to bail them out when that bites them, there is no incentive to change.
@@A-BombEnergy It's all about quarterly profits not about the health of the company due to BS in the US legal system companies traded on the stock exchange have a legal duty to maximize profits for investors even if it means driving the company into the ground, even Toyota NA has this problem.
The inline 6 was a great engine until the EPA told them to stop making them or get fined. They replaced it with convoluted mini van engines that you're taking a gamble with.
@@jamesgizasson I can't argue with this. I remember seeing it and thinking "wow thats a good idea" but then I didn't understand the ramifications from that. The marketing got me. But you are correct sir. -Brandon
Jeep should be about cheap affordable ruggedness with potential upgrades down the road for outdoor adventure. Its not a luxery car brand and their sales prove that. That and every other luxery car brand being infinitely better. Currently driving a jeep WJ and i dread the day im gonna have to replace it because i wont be able to afford a newer jeep. Or just about any brand for that matter. The closest im gonna be able to get to what i want is a older toyota 4 runner and those arent cheap either
I am sorry to hear this, I understand it. It was a struggle for me to afford my JL when I purchased back in 18. I hope you are able to find something you enjoy and be happy with your purchase. Thanks my friend.
I bought a brand new 2008 JKU Rubicon with the 3.8L and a manual trans. The Jeep was amazing offload but the second the tires hit pavement it became the biggest turd I have ever driven. That 3.8L dynoed @ 103hp at the rear wheels, my 1957 Jeep CJ5 with a 229 V-6 from a Monte Carlo had more hp!! (Don't even get me started on death wobble situation.) After owning it for 9 years, I compared the 2017 Grand Cherokee with the 2017 Ford Explorer Platinum. Chrysler wanted almost $15,000 more for the Grand Cherokee than the FULLY LOADED Explorer Platinum. So, I traded the JKU in on a 2017 Ford Explorer Platinum. The only thing I miss about the JK was the places we went with it, but I don't miss that JK even a little bit. The JK will be the last Chrysler product I will ever own. Honestly the government should of just Chrysler go bankrupt and disappear into the sunset.
You are a success story of someone who owned a JK and upgraded to a Ford and doesn't regret it. That 3.8L was a turd, its like you said, no horsepower. I can't believe they even put that engine in their lineup. The 4.0L destroys that engine in almost every measure...in fact...all measures. Have you looked at getting an old Wrangler and using it to go places your ford cant? Thanks for the comment.
Jku ain't too bad, it is a jeep after all not a hot rod😂 And from the sounds of some forums the 3.8 was more reliable too. Also that explorer is really reliable my mom has one at like over 150k miles hope you enjoy it ❤
@@sixpest The Duratech 3.5/3.7L engine (used in the Explorer, Flex and other lines) is a good motor, but the water pump is driven off the timing chain. A horrible design and very costly repair! You'll never really know when it'll go bad, and when it does, it floods the engine with coolant. Before you know it's leaking (internally) you've wasted crank\con rod bearings. With 150K on the clock it's not if but when will it leak and nuke the motor. Google it.
I’ve owned a few Jeeps. I love to off road in the mountains and desert. I owned a Cherokee and a Wrangler in the 90’s. I agree, since the 90’s they’ve gone down hill in quality while getting way expensive. In 2018 I bought a 8 year old 4Runner SR5. Great vehicle. And it out off roads any Jeep I ever had. Way more reliable to. I still own it and have only change the brake pads. Oil change to oil change, no issues. We just bought a 2024 4Runner in the TRD Off Road Premium Trim. It was way cheaper than a comparable Jeep and 10x the vehicle. I’m sold on Toyota and will probably never go back. I think Chrysler Corp as a whole is headed the wrong way and is out of touch with Americans and what we want.
Preach brother, you are saying what I hear too often, and it shouldn't be this way. However, I am very glad to hear you have solid vehicles and are happy with Toyota. I am all about doing what is best. Thanks for the comment :-)
I had a 2015 2dr rubicon wrangler. I loved it being a manual for off-roading. But after a few years I was sick of the small size as I couldn't use it for much. Plus the payments. So I traded it in for a 2002 Toyota Tundra. It's my dream truck! Perfect size for everything I need. Paid off which is even better! And no extra bs maintenance needed as I can do almost all repairs myself. So far it's been totally awesome with only minor issues like the o2 sensors. It's at nearly 200K miles now without any major hiccups. Toyota really does have an edge. Plus I love the older ones cause they look cooler and are smaller thus more practical. I can actually use the bed vs my dad's 2023 Dodge Powerwagon. I can hardly put anything into that bed cause it's just way too huge. If only vehicles could be smaller and more practical. And cheaper. These days I can't hope to afford a new car at all. Plus I don't want to. Too many government nanny features and difficult to repair lol. I'll gladly stick to older, proven vehicles.
What people forget is that the engine and driveline in the jeep is leftover from Mercedes / Daimler Benz. They are the company that ran Chrysler in the ground stole their best technology and left a pile of ruin behind. To compare jeep to Mercedes is in effect comparing the same company mechanically. As a former claims adjuster for mechanical repairs I would never buy a Mercedes or bmw product. To much failure rate.
They need to make a higher quality $20k no tech variant to recover. The luxury car niche isn't a place for wranglers. I have a jk and it's consistently unreliable despite babying beyond the manual.
Preach my friend. I have seen some information & videos about them toying with the idea of a Jeep Wrangler "Shortcut"...but you and I both know it will be overpriced to the gills and just not worth it. What motor do you have in your JK? 3.6?
Jeep is following the inverse correlation of "make it worse and sell it for more" quite vigorously. I went to a Jeep dealership a few months ago and asked how many people they had let go. When the sales rep. said "None", I told him maybe I'd be back when the had learned something. I'm now looking at Toyotas again.
I cannot agree more. They seem to think they are invincible...I don't get it. Treat the customers like we are the lifeline of the company...oh wait we are. I own two small businesses and I cannot imagine for the life of me treating my customers that way. What kind of Toyota are you looking at? 4Runner? Taco?
@@A-BombEnergyHaving owned 5 Toyotas over the last 20 years, I am totally sold on them and wouldn’t consider any other brand. While there are undoubtedly some Toyota stealerships around, my dealership repair shop is as honest and competent as any that I have ever worked with.
Its like tesla saying they sell every cybertruck they make but then they dont want you selling it for a year. Surrree bud. So popular new yorkers who dont even drive still havent bought one.
The maintenance side is an example of untrained employees that don't even bother to verify that they completed their work. As with the oil, all they'd have to do is pull the dip stick.
Totally agree. My understanding is that Technicians don't change the oil. Dealerships basically use untrained techs to do that type of work. My dad always taught me to ALWAYS check the oil after you changed it. Who knows...maybe it all didn't come out.
I HAD a 2017 Lexus GX - changed the oil at the dealership (because I didnt have the time to do it myself). I gave them AMSOIL and AMSOIL filter. The shitty tech put in house oil and their filter - and didn't tell me or own up to his mistake. I ran the car 10K miles. It burnt and gunked. I traded it in. I swore, never to have anyone touch my cars ever again.
For years decades, Jeep would show exciting concepts at the Easter Jeep Safari, everyone loved them and asked to have them immediatly for sale...they never would, they would just completely ignore us.
Yup, I’ve seen that so many times. I don’t understand how they can run the company like that and not produce results. Ford is doing similar things too. I’m making a film about them as we speak, I just uploaded the trailer a few days ago. Check it out and let me know what you think. 🇺🇸🫡
Yeah brother, those are for sure the golden years for those. Unfortunately, Toyota is moving a lot of their manufacturing to Mexico...Ford is too. What are your thoughts on Ford? They are the next installment in this series, the full film will be out in a few days. However, the trailer is posted if you want to check it out. Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions/experience with Ford. Thanks for commenting, have a great weekend. -Brandon
Thanks man, I had 13 subscribers before I posted this video. I make films professionally, figured I would apply the same skill here. I am starting an Energy Drink company and I love cars, figured I would combine the two :) Look forward to future conversations with you brother. New film will be out in a few days, stay tuned! 😁
I needed a vehicle. My wife was pregnant and I was hit by a drunk driver. The closest dealer to me was Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler/Ram. I went there and drove off in a Jeep Cherokee Sport. Last y ear I sold it. It only had 35,000 miles on it. It was paid off. Why did I sell it? Because every week it had a check engine light come on, plastic pieces was falling off of it from the bottom, the interior, and the foam protection on the hood above the engine was disintegrated. We never missed a maintance, our driving habits was in town with maybe a cross state once or twice a year, and it sat in a garage.
Wow! I am sorry to hear that she got hit by someone so careless, especially while pregnant! I am a new father, so I understand that concept even more now. I am unfortunately not at all surprised by the workmanship of your cherokee...they only seem to put "quality" workmanship into the wranglers and gladiators...maybe the Wagoneer's but I have yet to get my hands on one for an extended period of time. I've used one as an evacuation platform for a casualty, but I was kinda busy in the back to take notice of the 130K vehicle that was getting bodily fluids everywhere on the inside haha. Have you replaced the vehicle with something else?
@@A-BombEnergy Yes, we ended up getting a Toyota. It even comes with 2 years of free maintenance (comes out to be 4 oil changes and 8 tire rotations) and a lifetime of free car washes. But, we saw reviews of some toyotas going 1million miles, 600k miles, 400k miles, and mechanic YT channels praising how Toyotas are over engineered. They are also pretty much making everyone of their vehicles available in hybrid. We are really happy with it so far.
I'd like a CJ-TJ combo. I like real gauges, I like the simplicity of the CJ dash. I liked my hubs on the CJ that I had to get out and lock them in, not pneumatic
good content, but lets face it, every brand is going downhill. Who is to blame? the CEO, the board of directors, or the assembly workers, the unions ? the robots ? who knows. I factory ordered a 2024 2dr Jeep wrangler Sport MT, no options other than hardtop for just under $31K, it is not my daily and only take it out on sunny weekends. you can still find deals if you do your research, or work on your own vehicles if you have the skills or last option just lease
Congrats on the Jeep! I hope you like it. My only rebuke to that purchase, is that is expensive in comparison to what they used to be only a few years ago. Jeep was supposed to be the factory base model out the door price for around 25k. I just can't accept such high prices. But that is relative and dependent upon how someone values money? Did you get that baby in RED? Two door red jeep is sexy.
Thank your govt... and they are all guilty... for creating massive amounts of money and dumping into our economies.... poof, price increases for everything....
Great video, great research, and fantastic perspective. My only critique is the ultra wide resolution looks like shit. Especially at @1:34 where you have a clip that's now hovering in the middle of a black vignette because the resolution is a long rectangle. I may be the minority perspective though. Regardless, subbed and can't wait for more content! Your subscriber count will definitely reflect how high quality your videos are soon if you keep up the good work.
Thanks for the kind words and I appreciate the feedback. I usually do widescreen format for the cinematic element, but sometimes it can bite me in the butt because like what you stated with the quality with some clips. I will work harder on finding better quality ones my friend. Thanks for the sub, the next installment in this series is on Ford, trailer is posted if you want to check it out. The full Ford film will be out in a few days. Just waiting on some clips to come in. Look forward to future conversations with you my friend. -Brandon
Thank you very much for the compliment! I am new to TH-cam, so I'd imagine the subscribers will come. This is my first REAL video. I am already working on the next video. Hope to see you there :)
German vehicles should only be leased. I own 2 jeeps presently and found 6 quarts put into my jeep on the first service oil change. I do both of my JL’s myself. Won’t let the dealer touch them when it comes to service. I installed both jeeps with catch cans and it’s amazing how much oil is caught in just a few drives. Also installed the Baxter replacement filter setup to keep oil in the top of the motor to almost stop the cranky dry startups. Amazing I have to do this to a 2018 and 2022 product. Edit: Oh and don’t get me started on the rust I had to clear and repaint on the wheel mounting surfaces of both jeeps on all 4 corners of both vehicles. I live in the SW desert in Utah lol. I couldn’t imagine having these back east. Sheesh it would be a mess.
You aren't wrong about German cars, I am taking a pretty big risk. My only hope is that since Toyota was involved with the manufacturing of the B58 motor we will see some reliability improvements. As for the Jeeps rusting, I am still shocked by how many people I hear having this issue. I had this issue with mine but on the frame. I had to ended up sanding all the welds and coating them with Eastwood's underbody frame spray. So far after 6 years its held up and that is with a decent amount of off-roading and trips to OBX where we drive on the beach. Thanks for commenting and sharing your experience.
Yes sir, they are on the list. Working on another episode but GM and FORD are 100% going to get some too. Thanks for the suggestion, hope to see you in the comments when I make them :)
I do my own oil changes and tire rotation. The Jeep Penstar motor is one of the easiest motors to do an oil change on. There's no need to go to the dealership for any services.
Agreed. Just changed my oil a few days ago and it was so simple. I let mine drain for about 30 minutes though. Sooo much more comes out. I’ll do a video next oil change to show it.
I don't like Jeep because of looks or its road comfort. A short wheelbase, solid front and rear axle, ujoint-connected drivetrain, and inline 6 made it an awesome crawler off road. I wouldn't buy a Jeep never than a TJ.
Ryan, I don’t think many Jeep enthusiasts like myself would disagree with you. Out of my three jeeps, the TJ is hands down the best one. Assuming you own a TJ? I really wish Jeep didn’t end production of the inline 6/4 because it had potential to be refined. The 3.6 isn’t bad but it’s too complicated and it’s left me stranded on the side of the road where my 4.0 has not. Thanks for commenting Ryan, hope to hear from you soon. -Brandon 😁
Same, my TJ is amazing. What is the specs on your TJ? Thanks for the compliment too! I have been teaching myself for about 4 years. I have always enjoyed video editing and making content. Learning cinematography right now...so it's going to get even better :) Do you edit?
@@A-BombEnergy Oh yeah...used to have a 2007 BMW 335i from 2010 to 2017. AMAZING to drive, but left me stranded and in dangerous situations many times. I wound up road tripping in my old 1995 XJ with 240k miles vs the 60k mile BMW because I trusted it more to get me where I'm going. NEVER left me stranded.
@@blurglide Nice! That is a really good set up, I would never sell that bad boy either. I would suggest a few things that really helped me: 1. Find a topic you like, make some short videos on it. 5-10 minutes. 2. Watch other content and imagine trying to replicate, not clone but replicate with your own flare. 3. Find someone who is good at it and have them be your mentor. Have them watch your content and let them give you feedback and guide you through the process. I went solo for years and found a mentor and he changed my whole process. Friends and family will lie to you and tell you whatever you make is awesome. A mentor won't. 4. Watch awesome TH-camrs like Jaiver Mercedes, he gives great "How-To's". If you want to know more, DM me on Instagram.
Hahaha no I am not ripping it from another TH-camr. This is my business account for my company...that would be a REALLY bad look if I did lol. Thank you very much for the sub, let's try to get to 500 before the end of the month. Welcome to the legion brother.
I have owned one Wrangler a 2001 60 year edition 4.0 auto A/C 2 tops lock box it has been great 60 thousand miles now I keep it maintained and inside. Plow driveway in winter. tow a 5x10 trailer use it in our woods use it as a spare vehicle and a convertible in the summer. And I would not trade even up on a new one. I listen to the problems buyers have had with them and the way they are made
Rob, we can bring it back 😁 Also, do you happen to have any experience with Ford? They are the next film in this series and it will be released in a few days. However, the trailer is posted, you should check it out and let me know what you think. I would love to hear your experiences or opinions. Thanks for commenting Rob, have a great weekend. -Brandon
Rick! You might be right😎 what do you think of Ford? I just posted the trailer on the next film and it’s on Ford. You should check it out and give me your suggestions 🇺🇸🫡
I bought a Gladiator that was heavily discounted, it's was a decent deal. Only time will tell if I end up loving it or not... so far, I like it a lot. It seems good quality, but I guess we will see.
Congratulations on the new purchase! I really hope you like it; they are "good" vehicles and with proper maintenance I think it will fair you well. Is this your first Jeep?
@A-BombEnergy first Jeep? Yes. I came from a 23 Tacoma and still have a Land Cruiser. I go to Moab often and have friends with Jeeps. They are hard to beat for how they come out of the box. Good luck putting 37 or bigger tires on a Tacoma without a lot of custom work... anyway.
@@adrianw3985 Yeah I get that, they are def hard to beat out of the box. I actually leave mine stock because I simply don't need a spec'd-out jeep...yet lol. Tacos are nice though; I wouldn't mind one.
Hello from Italy! I'm paying the third mortgage of my life: the first was for the house, the second for the beach house, and the third, the current one, for my 80th anniversary Jeep Gladiator with OUR VM 3.0 Ecodiesel on it🤩👍 💪🥰🏁 -€79,000 the price of the latest ones imported here in Italy, but mine, paid 63,000, is now, after 30 months, still worth €59,000 👍-
@@motoacquatico1967 Hello from America! I love Italy, its such a beautiful country! We don't have many of the Eco Diesels in the US, I have heard they have issues! I hope yours runs perfect :)
This seems to be late stage capitalism for most brands. Craftsman, jeep, remington, etc. Brands get bought by a company that is run ultimately by the bean counters and the soul is ruined.
I love my 4.0 L 98 Wrangler I have done a rr differential over haul and an exhaust manifold 100 k running like a champ !! The 06 was the last best jeep !! Fiat is the kiss of death they made poorly designed cars back in 1979 and before. Fix it again Tony !
Nice! I also have a 98 TJ. I think I am going to have to fix the rear end soon, change the diff fluid and those spider gears were looking rough... but she has 220,000 miles. Was it hard?
@@A-BombEnergy to avoid the Spyder gear fretting common jeep failure with ring and pinion gears . I recommend using a posi differential carrier like a Rubicon a much better setup then open 30 dana
@@A-BombEnergy to OH the rr differential it takes a few speciality tools to do it tork wrench dial indicator set up with paint pattern diff.gears mesh and drive 50 mikes pull cover ck for any in proper break in issues . Just doing Spyder gears not too bad they tend to freat excessive wear at 90k or less. Wranglers are built with excessive back lash play in differential ring and pinion gears . Buy American parts not Chinese or be sorry . Their machinests suck
We bought a 21 Ecodiesel Wrangler Rubicon new. We paid $52,680 OTD it was on the spool-down era of COVID but we’ve enjoyed it. It’s been good to us. No issues here, knock on wood, it has 58k miles on it.
I have a '96 xj, and I've had it for about 3 years. I bought it for just under $4k, and spent another $6k within a year fixing it up, getting new tires, etc. This is my first vehicle and I've spent a lot of money on it, but 20k miles later, and very little going wrong with it, i've come to really like it. I never did crazy offroading with it, but took it on gravel mountain roads several times a month. Super reliable and fun to drive, that I don't want to get rid of it. I have driven a '94 5.2 v8 grand cherokee, and that thing is fun to drive, but also really quiet as well. The current market of cars in general, especially jeeps, is just insane. My next vehicle that I would like is a grand cherokee zj, an early 00's lexus rx300/gx470, or if I had to get a newer vehicle (mid-late 2010's), it'd only be a 4runner. I will always have a soft spot for older jeeps, but not the newer ones. This was a good video. Less than 100 subs was surprising to see, out of a solid video like this one.
Its crazy to think that these 90's and early 2000's Jeeps are still rolling strong on the roads. Very few cars can say they have this reputation, and you are living proof of what can be achieved. I believe Jeep is living off of people like you, or I guess living off a reputation they are openly desecrating. Lexus rx300 would be a sick ride or the 4Runner. I was pricing those out recently and couldn't believe how much they run for, even being 20 years old and having over 200,000 miles. But that is what quality work gets you. Thanks for the compliment. I am new to TH-cam, so I expect to have no subs for a while but it's okay. I will keep grinding and making quality content for you guys. Running 2 businesses and being active duty is rough, but I love the challenge. Thanks again for the sub.
Totally agree with that sentiment. I get why people use the “free oil” changes but after that, just do it yourself. It’s so easy and cheaper. I even change my oil on my BMW, which everyone says you can’t do…
The AMC 232 in-line six cylinder engine was the best - god balance of power, gas mileage, and reliability in a 1976 AMC Hornet and got 200,000 miles before i traded it off. Years later i owned a Dodge Shadow and i learned that hard way the dodge (to avoid) is a verb and not a noun (Dodge brand name) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a very well made video for you tube so well produced that it plays like a proper movie or documentary in miniature. I found the slick professional production values not only very pleasing on the eye but the points raised to be well thought out and persuasive. The result is a enjoyable informative short video for the car fan that is a credit to its makers and perhaps Jeep might just get the message. Oops I meant Fiat or who ever now owns the most iconic of American brands.
As someone who considers myself a Jeep enthusiast, mostly for the older models, I'm hoping this is the wake up call Jeep needs if it is to ever preserve its reputation. I think you were spot on about Jeep's "heyday", it seems to correllate with the use of AMC components, I absolutely love the I6 engines. These were very capable and fun vehicles that you could easily work on in your driveway, and they have a certain unique feel to them, hence their old marketing phrase "there's a feeling you can get, only in a Jeep!" The company had a philosophy of creating simple, reliable, rugged off roaders that were wasy to work on and modify. Then in the mid 2000s or so, they started putting out a lot more low quality crossovers like the Patriot and Compass, cutting corners, and using engines of questionable quality and reliability. They watered down the Wrangler a lot with the JK, turning the Wrangler from an old, utilitarian off roader to more of a modern SUV. It still could go off road, but a lot of that magic the older models had was lost. It felt like a 2000s Chrysler product, and that's not a good thing. You still see old XJs, YJs, TJs, ZJs, etc both on and off road all the time, but I have such a hard time seeing these new models having anywhere near that longevity. They're so expensive that nobody is going to want to take them off road in the first place. I get that most current Wrangler buyers tend to be older women who prefer more of a family vehicle with a cute appearance, but expecting them to pay BMW prices for a Fiat Chrysler is completely absurd.
This is one of my favorite comments thus far! You nailed everything in this. I barely take my JL offroad simply based on how expensive it is and I have maintained it beyond what is normal. I don't want to ruin her just yet. I do take her to the beach and off road a few times a year but that is light duty (unless I am pulling someone out who got stuck!) There is a special feeling I do get when I drive my TJ, doors on and off. She is a special lady who works hard for me. I can't get rid of her. People have offered to buy my TJ and XJ I don't know how many times because they want that cheap jeep to off road in. Funny enough, many of them are JL owners! Thank you for the comment, you are spot on.
@A-BombEnergy of course, it's nice to see a channel covering Jeep that's run by an actual fan of the company, it offers a better perspective than someone who doesn't really have much interest in them. Good video!
Bravo 👏🏼 great video! my wife and i wanted to buy our first Jeep. she has always wanted a Wrangler since she was a child. so we started looking for a base 2 door manual. we gave up after all we could find were loaded up models over 70 grand (CAD).
Well thank you for the kind words. I appreciate that. Don’t give up on finding a good wrangler! You can find some out there, is just hard. Maybe look for a JK or TJ?
Sorry i’m Dane my opinion is there is only ever made very few brilliant US cars. The JEEP wangler, Mustang 1960-70 and F150. Driving American is like sailing high seas. Sorry from Denmark. (Tiny country with no car production)
Hi from America! I love your country, its beautiful and so are the people. Its funny because I agree with you on these cars you speak of. Everything else is junk. I wish I could get a BMW Wagon here, we don't get them. :(
I've owned and driven Jeeps for over 30 years, but the last Jeep that I bought was a 2005 model and I will likely never buy another. My 2005 Jeep is still running well, but it has an electronic control module that Jeep discontinued manufacturing or stocking almost a decade ago. The are no new modules to be found anywhere now and used ones can not be rebuilt. If that module fails, the Jeep is unusable and will go to the scrapyard, even though the rest of the vehicle is perfectly serviceable. The used car market now values the vehicle at little more than scrap value. Meanwhile, many Ford or GM vehicles that have been out of production for decades longer still have necessary critical repair parts available. And CDJR wonders why fewer and fewer people have any loyalty to its products . . .
Wow, what an incredible comment. I didn't know about this problem with the 2005 models. I'll add that to my tool kit of knowledge. Jeep is way to quarterly profit driven and satisfying the board...when they should be trying to satisfy the customer. Have you checked to see if there are any aftermarket companies that make it? Like doorman or something?
I just purchased a 1999 Sahara for $7K with 165K miles. I replaced all suspension components, all liquids, all joints and seals (did it myself) - for less than $4K. Im in less than 12k. If the engine blows, I can replace it for less than 4K - however, it runs like a top - hoses, injectors, cap, rotor, cables, plugs - all replaced. I love this TJ, it is simply AWESOME.
I am so happy to read this comment, I can relate because I did something very similar. Mine just has more miles. Its such a great vehicle and so much fun to drive. Do you have any plans for it? Lifts or wheels and tires?
@@A-BombEnergy I put in Bilstein 4600, OME stabilizer. It has a 4" BODY lift - hence it gets to keep all of its geometry. It has deep dish aluminum old school (like Mickey Thomson) with 33". The tires clear fine and are good. But. I will upgrade to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss 33" next go around. I will be adding windshielf bar with light (old school style, KC), new Bestop. I put in a Walmart brand head unit that supports wireless Android Auto & Apple Car Play. Kicker speakers all around. Kicker 12" sub in the rear. Coming up is a Tuffy center console, security tailgate, glove box. Spicer diff covers...the list goes on LOL :)
My Dad and Brother both had Jeeps and they both sold them after 2 years of owning them. I've been in Love with the Two Door Jeep Willy's. So many people are telling me NOT TO BUY a Jeep. It's Heart Breaking thinking my Dream Vehicle is a POS. And Sad Jeep discontinued the Purple color in 2023. 💜 Bring it back PLEASE
They can be solid vehicles if you maintain them and understand things will break more than other cars, like a Toyota. Don't give up on it yet. I would suggest buying slightly used and NEVER buy new. Do what you can not to support the "company" and support the community. You could always wrap your Jeep purple ;) Thanks for the comment my dear.
People on top of Stellantis are better at financial engineering than mechanical engineering. Just watch them fill their own pocket with cash, load the company up with debt, and then sell it off and pocket even more cash. They don't have any interest on selling more cars. Don't forget Jeep brand also files for bankruptcy in China, (THE LARGEST AUTOMARKET). If they don't even try to fight the Chinese Cars in China, they will have zero strategy or exprience fighting Chinese brand like BYD when they show up in their own back yard. Stellantis is also hell bend on cutting cost right now to protect their Stock price rather than investing into the next generation product lines, it will only go downhill from here. Hopefully Jeep brand will be sold to someone who care about cars and rebuild the brand.
Wow, I didn't know they went bankrupt in China...I heard they were there and were getting crushed. Makes sense if they went bankrupt. China also did a knock off Wrangler too...wild stuff.
I have an old wrangler but won't be buying any new models. No way Im spending that much money and they are making jeeps way to luxurious with all the electronics now. No thanks. Jeeps should be manual everything!
That seems to be the route that most people are taking, especially the diehard wrangler enthusiast. What kind of wrangler do you have? Unfortunately, it seems like all of the major domestic car companies are going this route. Ford is probably one of the worst ones. They are actually next in this series and I just posted the trailer for it. If you have time, check out the trailer in the full film will be out in June.
Jeep has been dead since 2006 when they killed off the 4.0 I got 3 jeeps myself. 99 XJ, 88 YJ, 83 SJ. My entire family loves jeeps But i could never bring myself to buy a newer one.
@@A-BombEnergy thanks, yeah the YJ Is my most recent one. Love it so far. if you get a YJ tho, definitely go for 1991 and later one with the 4.0 and AX15 (if you prefer manual). 88 has the 4.2 which aint bad but a little sluggish, but worst of all has a Peugeot BA10 manual transmission, which is a pretty light duty and weak transmission with an internal slave design that requires the tranny to be pulled to be replaced(which to be fair the AX15 had this till 94.) I was unlucky enough to have my internal slave fail 2-3 weeks into owning it lol. So its currently in the shop for the clutch and whole 9 yards. If you can, i would find a 1994/95 with the external slave AX15 if you go the manual route.
I owned a 1989 YJ. Biggest pos ever. I know jeep has made some good vehicles, but there's so much garbage from that company now. I have an 11 year old Toyota FJ I will never part with.
Wow usually people have great things to say about the YJ. Did you have the 4.2l engine? I’m no expert but my understanding is that before the 4.0l hit the YJ’s, the 4.2l was hit or miss. Thanks for the comment and FJ’s are awesome! Toyota needs to bring them back!
Really nicely done video! Professional and informative. Nice work. It's painful to see what has been happening to one of the most iconic brands in America.
Thank you my friend and yes, it is very painful. I am doing another one on Ford. I posted the trailer for it a few days ago, give it look and see if it interests you. If you have any suggestions, I am all ears. The full film on Ford will be out by Mid June. I hope to see you in the comments there, lets revive these old brands! :)
Thank you for sharing that. I will use that in my next film which is on Ford. I just posted the trailer last night if you want to check it out. Look forward to seeing you in future comments. -Brandon
Greed is killing Jeep, just like all of the other auto makers. Jeep can go back to its roots and make a basic, rugged vehicle for a reasonable price or it can continue to try to sell "trail rated" (what a joke) vehicles for grossly inflated prices... and go under. The Jeep I knew is long dead.
You nailed it brother. I have no problems with them keeping luxury models, but they need to really look at who buys Jeeps and its not the Mercedes or BMW crowd. Its people who want that rugged off road vehicle.
The sales, I can understand are down, but there’s two factors that play into this one. Inflation is very high, which means the economy is weak. Nobody’s got money for a car and number two. The new jeeps really suck a lot.
Is it really that difficult? If the excuse is that they’re chasing short term profits, that makes sense and blaming it all on that is reasonable enough. But if this is all incompetence, then what are these other companies doing that you’re not. If Toyotas can last, then why can’t yours? I love Jeep. But I have no intention of buying one anytime soon.
Exactly, you are totally right. They should be following the Toyota mindset and perfect, not commit to drastic changes. I think the 3.6 can be at that level, they just need to commit to that.
not a jeep person myself, i prefer me and old subie loyale/leone. but for people who do like jeep, this is purely outrageous. people can't enjoy a new product from the manufacturer of their favourite cars because "hur durr me profits" insanity
I respect what Subaru has done and built. Not mine kind of company but mad respect to them. I get companies need to make a profit and I’m all for it but when you put profit first, that’s when a company starts to decline. Owning a company (like myself) you have to put solving a problem and the money will follow.
Jeep has catered to whales instead of its loyal customer base. Too many electronics, mini van engines, wide screen radio, disconnecting axle, etc. It's an off road vehicle, not a yuppie flex/ discussion piece.
I loved jeep up until they released the renegade, every new car they make just looks worse and worse, and they lost the identity of what made them cool. They're a wanna be luxury brand with all of these new SUVs
It’s such a shame because the renegade used to be an awesome iconic model. They are insulting the legacy by calling a fiat 500 with a face lift a renegade. But it seems all car brands are doing this…ford is going to get a video soon.
There is no incentive to make good cars that are cheap. Especially since they can always lobby the government for protectionist policies like the 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.
Dude, you nailed it. If you feel this way, check out the trailer for the next film, it’s on Ford. Full film will be released in June. I’m going to cover a lot of what you said. It will blow your mind.
Toyota Mazda Honda good mantra to learn if buying a car ,new or used You seem to think it’s bad in merica try getting jeep parts ,jeep service or just good ol customer service anywhere else in the word from jeep
When my 2012 Grand Cherokee's 3.6L had engine failure literally one day out of factory warranty, the dealership recommended I call the Corporate number and see what they can do. They told me "We can give you 3% off a new Jeep". I basically got told "your current jeep is fucked and we're not helping you, but we WILL help you spend more money with us". Never again.
Are you serious? What on earth is wrong with Jeep. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that, it’s not fair to you as not even just a customer but as a human being. I couldn’t imagine treating one of my customers like that. So what’s the brand you ended up moving to? -Brandon
I’ve got my 2006 Wrangler Unlimited that I will keep until it blows up. Then I will rebuild it and drive it some more. I won’t touch one of these new fiats with a twenty foot pole. Especially for $60K - $80K.
This hit me in the feels, not just as a Jeep owner but also owning the last model year before Jeep became Fiat. Earned my sub.
Thank you for the sub my friend. More content like this will be posted. It hurt me to make this, but it had to be done. Jeep is such a wonderful brand, its personal for me. Maybe this will change ideas at Jeep leadership.
If you are spending that sort of cash they better get you a,loaner for overnight repairs without being told.
The second you have ANY issues with that BMW, GET RID OF IT! If you don't it will cost you dearly.
Gone are the days when BMWs and Mercedes Benz made cars that a person could drive for years, sell it, and the next owner could drive it for more years. Those car makers found out that they couldn't make money on cars that lasted for at least 500 thousand miles. German engineering went out the window. Now they make cars that are meant to be leased for 3 years and then turned in for a newer model.
Jeeps have always been POS...you kids want to look cool. This is the price you pay.
Nobody wants an $80,000 Vehicle, it doesn't matter, Car ,Truck or SUV ...
Electric , Gas or Diesel ...
Honestly, I completely agree. I purchased a BMW M340i and aside from my house, that was the biggest purchase I have ever made. If it wasn't due to the fact that I need a performance car for my business, I simply wouldn't do it. And that wasn't even 80k.
we need to get back to the 18k to 35k jeeps
Lol the process is easy to fix. Quit voting in Democrats. Have Term limits and don't allow conceted people to go to Congress. ( And when I say connected I mean on a multi national level Connected to huge Multi National companies. We need to shut off the idea of being lifelong government officials getting wealthy by corporate donors and worldwide elites.
Actually, it depends. In talking with my local Lamborghini dealer, I can order a new Huracan and it will be delivered in about two years. This is the price I pay to buy one at MSRP with no markup while the used car market prices are still insane. And all these prices are north of $230K. So I'd say if I can get a 2 year old Huracan with low mileage with documented service for $100K, I'd buy it in an instant much less at $80K!🙂🙂🙂
lol tell that to Any German manufacturer. No one wants an 80k jeep is what you’re saying..
People who can spend that for a car sure as hell don’t want a bullshit ass jeep.
$80k for a wrangler is absurd
I totally agree. I can’t believe what is happening to such a wonderful brand.
Those 392s are gonna be over $100k now. Insane.
@@GrymmEvil It's such an insane price, they are literally just trying to milk as much money as they can out of the Wrangler community.
@@A-BombEnergy People buy them too because of the lure of "exclusivity" so Stellantis just learns the wrong lessons from it. We've been wanting a factory V8 Jeep for YEARS but not current Jeep and not a four door only IMO.
@@GrymmEvil I would LOVE a factory V8 but not in that price range. I can accept the 4 door though, we differ there :) but yeah, I can pick up what you are putting down.
Sooooo, bailing companies out is a bad idea? Who'd of thunk....
In the next episode, I will discuss who still owes money from the bailout....
I guess it's a toss up between people upset about bail outs, and people who lost there jobs because there was no bail out. The politicians tend to prefer the former.
@@alexgamble4718 Yeah, but when our country finally goes bankrupt because our government spend money on stupid shit like it's going out of style a WHOLE LOT MORE people are gonna lose their jobs. Then the politicians are going to lose alot more then their jobs!
Reject modern jeep, return AMC and Willy's jeeps back to life!
At minimum, I wish they would just create the minimalist Jeep and have it be a heritage line. Thanks for the comment my friend.
@@A-BombEnergy The off-road duty of the original Jeep has been filled by SxS and UTV's like Polaris line-up. Likewise the Toyota 4runner is a better general-purpose vehicle than the Jeep. So the Jeep's only loyal customers are those that want the image and recognition of owning an American icon. Jeep doesn't need to be a good to sell to these loyal customers, and they are enough of them to keep Stellantis in business.
When they got rid of the xj the writing was on the wall 😢
The TJ is great, but I cant stand the idea of having the engine run by a computer. putting a down payment on a CJ5 with a chevy 350 small block swapped into it soon.
@@00x0xx I agree, it's like the people that still buy catilacs and Buicks because they think they're still good vehicles. Toyota is following the same notion that more technology makes a better car like most companies now on the other hand, the biggest problem with modern cars and trucks. You don't need your car to be constantly connected to a network or have different drive modes, you only need to know how to operate it
If they would just stop trying to build Jeeps as luxury vehicles and start making real Jeeps again people would start buying them again.
No, Jeeps are trash and always have been and always will be. Nothing new.
@@doctordetroit4339 I disagree that they always have been, but I do agree but they always will be moving forward.
@@doctordetroit4339they were good before Daimler. After that it went downhill immediately
Can't, CAFE standards for fuel economy and car size make it impossible.
A car needs to have x mpg per square foot and it goes up every year, having exceeded reasonable expectation so manufacturers must pay fines for not meeting it.
So they build bigger, dumber cars and pay the government fines who pays them grants and both take your money for a garbage product you can't afford and don't want
Unfortunately that's what people are going after.
That's why the High trim level Chevy and Ford pickups sell so well and why they have gotten so feature rich.
They are going to price themselves out of existence.
It's a sad truth...it's unbelievable. I hope this video gets seen by Jeep leadership. Maybe they will change?
Chrysler has been a debt juggernaut that is a zombie producer since the GFC
Good, they are fiat Italian junk of crap that need to stop existing
That's the plan.
Just like Harley Davidson
All car manufacturers should do direct sales to the public. The dealership franchise system really screws the consumer.
Preach brother.
But there are way too many people out there who still are going to buy these overpriced cars and don´t realize how much they are getting screwed.
Problem is people would like the dealers if it wasnt a ram rod scam job. If we get rid of them now you cant go see the vehicle in person before you buy it.
Well…..
The manufacturers have gone to NTSB With hat in hand asking for regulations that require expensive technology that isn’t necessary for purchasers but can’t opt out of.
And then the dealership isn’t helping the situation
it's the states that force it
I don’t think a museum is going to fix Jeep. They’re going to need to listen to customers to course correct.
Can I ask you a serious question? The only “negative” (and I use quotations because I don’t think you mean to be negative) comment I’ve gotten is about the museum bit. Is me highlighting the high prices, lack of customer service, and poor manufacturing not clear enough in the video to where the only thing I hear a complaint about is the museum piece? I feel like those items I highlighted have very clear fixes, literally do the opposite. The impetus behind the museum, (which God help me I’m going to make it even more clear in the next video) is because I met a Porsche employee before and after he did the Porsche museum and track tour. The after was surprisingly different than the before. Thanks for commenting though, hope you have a great day.
Theyll be selling the same crap in 10 years and itll be even worse
They stopped making great jeeps once they killed off the TJ line.
The 4.0 was the best motor they ever had. The vehicles size was perfect.
And the coil spring suspension was the perfect combo for the vehicle.
Totally agree with sir. It’s why and so many jeepers keep them. Thanks for commenting my friend
Agreed! No Jeep since has been worth owning
4.0 was better with the AMC XJ Cherokee AW4 transmission. Nothing reliable from Chrysler.
And the 4.0 is so much better than the 3.8 pentastar.
The TJ frame is very susceptible to rust failure vs the older YJ frame. The coil springs are nice, but might as well get a nice 4.0 ZJ / WJ Grand Cherokee and build it up for the same price of a stock TJ with a good frame.
Almost 2 years ago I considered buying a Chrysler product, and was between a Wrangler, Gladiator, Cherokee, and a Ram 1500. I did a lot of research and decided against it. I went with a Lexus GX instead. It cost about the same as well-equipped Wrangler and has a bulletproof V-8. 30k miles later, it has never had even one minor mechanical issue and looks as good as the day we bought it.
Hey, I am really happy to hear that you are doing well with you Lexus. I have to say, that is a beautiful car and I imagine it will outlast 99% of cars on the market. Nobody can question the Toyota reliability. I saw those things everywhere in Africa, they usually had some interesting equipment mounted on them too...
Wish we could follow the Japs on reliability
The new Lexus GX is amazing. I agree with you. You made the right decision
GX and Land Cruiser are the best vehicles ever built. There's absolutely no comparison with any Chrysler product. You definitely made the right decision.
The problem is now even Toyota is having problems. They had to stop making the venerable 4.7 and 5.7 V8's. The new engines are having too many failures. Best you can say now is the (2023+) toyotas are the "Least Worst". When they used to be The Best.
I remember when Jeep was for the average person, but now out of my price range forever. Junk now, can not go 70k without major repairs
You are not wrong at all. I bought my 2018 Jeep JL Manual Transmission...thinking "oh the manual will be bullet proof." NOPE. I have had the slave cylinder go out 3 times. Then I just recently had it overheat on me, and it was because of the metal cooling pipe got a pin size hole leak. What a horrible time it was replacing that pipe. Took 3 weeks with me every day working on it for about 1-2 hours.
@A-BombEnergy which cooling pipe, located where?
I took my factory-ordered 2014 Cherokee Trailhawk in for the "free oil change" and upon arriving home and checking the oil discovered that the person who did the oil change filled the oil all the way to the top. Not kidding, I drained MANY quarts of oil out before it was to normal levels. It was the one and ONLY time I have or will ever have someone else change my oil and was a hard reminder as to why I never let others touch my vehicles.
Man that is nuts! Its like the simplest jobs get messed up. I changed the oil on my JL today and it was so easy, the trick though...you put 5 quarts of oil in...no more...no less...tough stuff haha.
It's a Jeep bro, coulda just ran it for 1000 miles or so and had it burn off or leak a few quarts, it changes its own oil!
The duality of the objective reality of the piss-poor state of American car manufacturers AND the fan boys swearing by them and pissing on any foreign brand because “USA Good” is so funny to me.
Brother, you couldn’t be any more correct. You should see what they said about me and this video in the forums, boy am I hated there lol. I can’t remember the exact term, but there is a psychological condition that people have when they defend something purely based on the fact that they own it. They feel you are attacking them and not the product. In the forums I got slaughtered because I own a BMW…how dare I exercise my right to drive what I want. What’s going to be more wild, is I am doing a video on Ford next, just posted the trailer, give it a look at let me know what you think. The full film will be out in June. Thanks for the comment brother, it was refreshing to read.
Jeep has a following that is second to none, but a big part of that has always been the low entry price. I’ve owned Jeeps for decades now, but I wouldn’t have if it wasn’t for being able to purchase an inexpensive Wrangler when I was young. They’ve now priced themselves completely out of the range of the younger generation and put themselves in the luxury car market with no basis for being there. Their packages in no way compare to those of other brands. Range Rover is really their main competitor now (at their price ranges), who also did something similar, but Rovers are luxury vehicles now. Jeep is trying to build base vehicles for luxury prices to rip off their loyal customer base. I currently own three Jeeps: a '22 Grand Cherokee, a '22 Gladiator, and a '93 Cherokee. At the pace the competition is going, my next upgrade will most likely be a Jeep competitor. We’ve been a Jeep family for years, and Jeep is failing us. I also agree the Jeep Wave program is a complete joke, and insulting to the Jeep community that began the real Jeep wave.
Great Content BTW, liked and Subscribed, hopefully this gets some reach.
Brother, you are preaching some serious truth in this comment. My family has been a LOYAL Jeep family for a long time too, and I bought my first Jeep in 2018 after a deployment. Got ripped off by the dealer (they undercoated it and hid rust) and luckily, I was able to trade it in at a dealership in upstate NY and they didn't care about the rust. Got my Jeep JL brand new but it was such a stretch to purchase because how expensive it was. I cannot imagine now buying a Jeep for what they are asking. I just bought a 2022 BMW M340i...and WOW is that car a blast and its cheaper than MOST Jeeps. I still have my Jeeps and I love them...but I am not sure if I'll ever buy a new one. How do you like the Gladiator? I rented on in FL a year-ish go and I loved it tbh...almost considered getting one but I just couldn't do the price. Thanks for the sub and comment, it really helps.
@@A-BombEnergyI love the Gladiator. It’s exactly what I wanted in a Jeep truck - a Wrangler with a bed. It did take some getting used to though, as my previous two Jeeps before the Gladiator were a '14 JK 2-door, and a '99 TJ 2-door before that. The Gladiator is over double their length. However, now that I’m an older dad, I needed that extra space. With that said, this purchase is the one that made me start to see the failings of Jeep, and made me rethink my brand loyalty. I almost went with a Tacoma as you can get more features for about 10k less. Jeep didn’t even have adaptive cruise control until this year in any of their vehicles, and still, they won’t include it in sport models. With all that said, I love taking the top off so I still went with the Jeep. I’ve heard rumblings that Stellantis is starting to get the message, and maybe rethinking their pricing, and It appears they have begun to at least acknowledge they have to keep up with technology features to stay relevant. Here's hoping anyway.
Range Rover? For a similar price I could certainly get a better Bronco right now.
Very true but… Ford is horrible as well now. Nothing worse than Stellantis, but in the last 20 years I don’t think an automaker’s reputation has dropped more than Fords. My business has 3 very nice Lariat F150s less than 10 years old and all less than 120k total all highway miles. All 3 have had to have complete transmission and engine replacements.
If you want a current off-road vehicle, there’s only 2 choices: Suburu for fireroads and Toyota for the harder stuff. Everything else is a fools errand.
If it weren't for the Chicken Tax and our failed CAFE standards, the American car market would look very different. A lot of what's wrong with the American car industry falls at the feet of lawmakers.
I'm kind of a sucker for defunct American brands; I miss Pontiac and Oldsmobile, if that points you in a direction.
Good content! Subbed.
I absolutely love those oldie brands! I hate to say even old (Pontiac isn't old!). You speak a lot of truth my friend. Thank you for the sub, I hope to see you in the comments on the next documentary film. Coming soon :)
The chicken tax is keeping Ford and Chrysler alive. Otherwise they'd get ravaged by foreign auto manufacturers
@@ILovePancakes24the chicken tax needs to be “CANCELLED” we need Toyota “HI-LUX” I wish a Canadian Economist would chime in Why no genuine Japanese trucks get imported into Canada ????
@ILovePancakes24 maybe they should actually innovate and learn to compete on the market, rather than the government holding their hand.
Cafe were put there for a good good reason back then and it should still stay that way
I purchased a 1995 XJ with the straight 6 new and put 260,000 miles on it with no major problems except the water pump at 115k miles. The Jeep was still in good shape when I sold it (big mistake). My next Jeep was a 2014 Wrangler that I purchased with 85k miles on it and holy hell it was a disaster. By 110k I had experienced an oil cooler failure, 3 seperate oil leaks, transmission problems and all sorts of electrical issues. It even left me stranded twice. Fast forward to today and I'm a proud Subaru owner and will never go back.
Wow! What a story good sir, I have heard many like this too. I have to say, my 2018 JL left me stranded once...and it was a horrible day at work and being stranded just intensified the complication of the day. My TJ and XJ has never left me stranded...so I fell ya. What kind of Subi do you have?
The oil cooler on the 3.6 Pentastar.... thank the accountants for this cost cutting choice... I would never use plastic on this or place it there...
Sad but truly understood. I'm in a 03 TJ , 4.0, 5 spd. Mnl.that is going to be my last vehicle. Well unless it gets totaled in an accident, it doesn't leave the road.
My wife has a 93 4.0 with only 64,000 miles on it hard top a/c that the options. Been offered $12,000 This jeep is a keeper. Had a 2014 rubicon unlimited x package and sold it in 2022 with 5,500 miles on it. Just didnt feel like a real jeep. No ruff ride and as big as a tahoe just not a good trail vehicle. The other option I forgot its automatic just plain 3sd no overdrive this jeep cost me $16,000 never again will jeeps be this cheap also a 54 M38A1 and a Cj5 plain jane 3spd stick 258 6cyl
Yes, the new ones are junk. only good for a Hemi retrofit. I got a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee 285k still going maybe 10k in repairs in 29 years with that including 6 sets of new tires.
Wait. People are paying big bucks for a dealership to do an oil change and then they drain the extra quart of oil out?! Umm. If they are capable of draining engine oil, they ought to be doing their own oil changes!
People were draining the 1 quart of oil when they got the free oil change. They weren't paying for oil changes...although I am sure some do pay for them, but I doubt they are draining 1 quart of oil. I used my 4 free oil changes and drained 1 quart out every time. After the 4 free changes were used, I now change my own oil. It's simple and it doesn't get overfilled.
on new vehicle sometimes it is best to get the dealerships to do the oil changes for warranty coverage.
@@A-BombEnergy With all the extra oil you drained, you almost have enough oil for another oil change! You'd just have to find another quart somewhere. Lol
Draining the oil is the easy part, try getting off the oil filter by hand.
@@boskey10 use a filter wrench...lol
My friend had a newer Grand Cherokee that he dropped nearly $100,000 on an ir was in and out of the dealership constantly. The transmission needed a full replace when he had 1,000 miles left on the warranty, so luckily it was covered. While picking it up from the dealership he asked if the car was going to keep having issues, expecting the “oh this is just a freak thing don’t worry about it” answer.
The service manager pulled him aside and said “sell this thing quick before the warranty runs out and buy something Japanese”. That shows the sort of brand confidence even the dealers have these days.
Wow this is a wild story to hear! I’m actually very surprised of the honesty of the sales manager. The GCs can be a decent vehicle but it’s so luck of the draw and that’s just wrong. Did your friend ever get rid of the GC? Thanks for commenting brother, sorry for the late reply, trying to be better at responding. Have a great weekend my friend. -Brandon
This was really well done! I'm a former Jeep addict turned Toyota guy for the reasons you outlined.
Thank you kind sir! I have heard this story many times about former Jeepers switch to Toyota or other brands. I am really like BMW...
I am with you! I also worked for Jeep as a tech, manager and warranty auditor. I now own a 4Runner.
I payed 13900 for a 2004 jeep rubicon in 2008 with 36k miles. That is still on the road it has 182k miles. 4.0 liter and 5 speed manual transmission is the best option.
Isn't that wild how much you paid? But to be honest, I would pay that too. You have a quality vehicle and as long as the frame is good and it's not plagued with rust, engine and transmission (or in your case clutch) replacements are something you can do in your garage. What color is your rig?
I am going to Moab next year I khakis tan jeep. I also own a base 2011 Nissan frontier with 2.5 liter and manual transmission. Someone put a million miles on it. I saw the price was 8200 with 128k miles I purchased it in 2019. It has been reliable got 172k miles on it. Cost me 2 oil change a year and I replaced all 4 tires for 380 bucks. I use it to haul my dirt bikes.
@@A-BombEnergyI need to fix the rust on my 2004 Rubi. People keep asking why fix, buy newer... they just don't get the sharp decline in quality when the TJ line ended.
This cultural issue goes way beyond Chrysler and even the U.S. auto industry. This dysfunctional dynamic exists in our institutions of higher learning and throughout our elected government extending to the various bureaucracies they feed.
A lot of truth in this statement. I believe in Ethical Capitalism. It is a real concept and it's how I execute with my businesses. Thanks for the comment my friend.
Really it's the MBA culture. Make numbers for the month or the quarter regardless of the damage it causes in the future. They'll figure out how to cut costs to make up for future losses when the time comes. Numbers, numbers, numbers.
Examples are Jeep haphazardly releasing the Ecodiesel in 14' despite Detroit engineers telling Fiat that the VM Motori engine would not work well in the application (US fuel and emissions systems are different than EU). They pushed it out anyway to pull sales to VM Motori (also owned by Fiat) and to rush to market. They lost their butts on it between EPA lawsuits, extremely high warranty claims, class action suits resulting in high legal fees, a $3K+ rebate to all buyers and extended warranty coverage on emissions systems, which are unreliable to begin with. Their crappy EGR coolers, plastic oil coolers, plastic intakes and other cheap parts failed and led to engine fires (EGR coolers started intake fires) and recalls. I have a 2014 JGC Summit and it had the entire exhaust/catalyst system replaced under recall the first year ($8K retail cost), it had the front timing cover seal and front main seal fail under warranty ($1700 retail), the EGR cooler recall (unsure of cost) resulted in intake, valve covers, injector tubes and turbo hoses being changed under the recall as they were all melted due to EGR cooler failure (was close to burning). 4,000 miles later (at 64K), the engine seized up without warning on a 225 mile road trip. It also had the leather dashboard delaminate under warranty ($1700) and it's delaminated again (not fixing it). Factory warranty expired and extended warranty has spent $22K to date and I'm pending a $9K transmission replacement as mine is throwing codes and flare shifting (warranty is dragging feet hoping it'll last until October when it expires). Trade in value is around the price of the transmission. The new engine with 25K on it is using a quart of oil per 500 miles and has already had a timing cover leak repaired, I don't have much faith in it and will dump it before the warranty runs out. I paid $58K new for it and am pretty sure that much has been spent on it in repairs between FCA and my extended warranty. I like RAM, Jeep Chrysler/Dodge vehicles, but I would never buy one again unless maybe it came with a bumper to bumper 100K factory warranty and a free loaner car whenever it has to go in the shop. That isn't going to happen as they know their quality isn't good enough to manage it, so I'm looking at other brands. I have 5 months before the warranty runs out and I don't want to own it one day after!
Business schools in general and MBA diploma mills like Harvard, etc, are creating absolutely abysmal business leaders that are running companies into the ground, and it extends far beyond Jeep. The intense focus on short term profits for Wall Street and ignoring quality and innovation is ruining companies all over the USA.
I’m so glad you picked up on some of the underlying themes of this video. Bless you. I’m working on a Ford video…that will blow your mind. Some of the stuff I found blew my mind! Thanks for commenting! Hope to see you in the comments when I upload that one 🇺🇸💪
Should see what those grads are doing to the railroads of America. It’s insanity
It isn't just the USA...
But the golden parachutes contradict that statment!
@@stevebell4906well how else are you going to attract all these brilliant and talented executives
I own a 2001 XJ with the 4.0. I rebuilt the engine as a stroker with a Tupy head. That was 20K ago and, at 188,000 miles, runs like a champ on 87. It's a phenomenal vehicle. My daughter and her husband want a Jeep. I am going to use your video to try and persuade them to avoid the recent Jeep models. My daily is a Subaru Crosstrek which is perfect for my purpose. I do love my XJ.
Your on the right track, honestly going back to before 2003. Sticking with the 4.0, and avoiding everything later model with the v6 motors. As a mechanic I've installed probably 10 or more 3.8 and 3.3 v6, and rebuilt 2 4.0 motors (that ran perfectly but knock or smoke from piston flop). If you want a solid 4x4 Toyota 4 runners are in the same neighborhood price wise, or, if it's just a small 4x4 toy your looking for.... Mahindra roxor. Straight axle, small, jeep looking, reliable 4 cylinder turbo diesel..... Just throwing out some other angles to avoid the pitfalls of what jeep stand for.
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Sounds like me and you have a lot in common! Rebuilding these bad boys is really fun and mind blowing with simplicity but yet they are built so well. I cannot believe what is happening to such a wonderful brand. Thank you for sharing my video with them, please feel free to reach out if you need any assistance with that situation. If they do get a new one...manual 3.6 is the only way to go.
Tell them to get a grand cherokee ZJ or WJ with the 4.0 they still are reliable while also being pretty nice vehicles
1992 4x4 Laredo, 5-speed is my daily. Love my lil shitbox (even though she has drinking problems, grumbly old gal....).
@@antoniusp3295 Wow you got a rare one! Impossible to find a manual version! My 92 Laredo is an automatic...tbh I am shocked it is still running haha, maybe our girls can talk about their drinking problems hahaha!
Bought my first Jeep, second hand of course and I do my own maintenance. Pray for me.
Hey thats great news! What did you end up getting? I have owned/own many Jeeps and even my 2018 JL isn't horrible to work on. It took time to learn some things with it though.
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My fellow americans are not really all that different from north korea ussr and nazi germany. Worse than Ussr car prices. Idiots who cant count the 2 genders nor properly count quarts of oil or votes.
Stands true for anything past the 2011 models.
Though the jk is the last somewhat reliable jeep😂
@@sixpest Junk Each and Every Part
The car companies don’t hate the consumers. They hate the fact that we repair our vehicles.
That’s why they keep trying to make them more complicated and less reliable
And mechanics are leaving at a furious pace. I have to wait at least 4 weeks for a basic repair.
They dont want us working on our own stuff because they make them so junk and expensive. Reliability and afforfability means different things to us than it does to the auto industry
No the US government did, they cat sell a modern vehicle without a backup camera.
And that's just one rule
Add in NO DIPSTICK for transmission! I don't care how good fluids have become.....fluid changes are cheaper than parts!
In common with many companies, the emphasis is on making money. The product suffers as a result. And as long as the government continues to bail them out when that bites them, there is no incentive to change.
You speak nothing but truth. My companies would never be bailed out and I wouldn't want that. If I run my companies in the ground, then its my fault.
@@A-BombEnergy It's all about quarterly profits not about the health of the company due to BS in the US legal system companies traded on the stock exchange have a legal duty to maximize profits for investors even if it means driving the company into the ground, even Toyota NA has this problem.
The inline 6 was a great engine until the EPA told them to stop making them or get fined. They replaced it with convoluted mini van engines that you're taking a gamble with.
I've heard this and its probably true. Remember Cash for Clunkers...
@@A-BombEnergy Cash For Clunkers is the biggest affront to the middle class in my lifetime. They knew exactly what they were doing.
@@jamesgizasson I can't argue with this. I remember seeing it and thinking "wow thats a good idea" but then I didn't understand the ramifications from that. The marketing got me. But you are correct sir. -Brandon
Jeep should be about cheap affordable ruggedness with potential upgrades down the road for outdoor adventure.
Its not a luxery car brand and their sales prove that. That and every other luxery car brand being infinitely better.
Currently driving a jeep WJ and i dread the day im gonna have to replace it because i wont be able to afford a newer jeep. Or just about any brand for that matter. The closest im gonna be able to get to what i want is a older toyota 4 runner and those arent cheap either
I am sorry to hear this, I understand it. It was a struggle for me to afford my JL when I purchased back in 18. I hope you are able to find something you enjoy and be happy with your purchase. Thanks my friend.
I bought a brand new 2008 JKU Rubicon with the 3.8L and a manual trans. The Jeep was amazing offload but the second the tires hit pavement it became the biggest turd I have ever driven. That 3.8L dynoed @ 103hp at the rear wheels, my 1957 Jeep CJ5 with a 229 V-6 from a Monte Carlo had more hp!! (Don't even get me started on death wobble situation.) After owning it for 9 years, I compared the 2017 Grand Cherokee with the 2017 Ford Explorer Platinum. Chrysler wanted almost $15,000 more for the Grand Cherokee than the FULLY LOADED Explorer Platinum. So, I traded the JKU in on a 2017 Ford Explorer Platinum. The only thing I miss about the JK was the places we went with it, but I don't miss that JK even a little bit. The JK will be the last Chrysler product I will ever own. Honestly the government should of just Chrysler go bankrupt and disappear into the sunset.
You are a success story of someone who owned a JK and upgraded to a Ford and doesn't regret it. That 3.8L was a turd, its like you said, no horsepower. I can't believe they even put that engine in their lineup. The 4.0L destroys that engine in almost every measure...in fact...all measures. Have you looked at getting an old Wrangler and using it to go places your ford cant? Thanks for the comment.
Jku ain't too bad, it is a jeep after all not a hot rod😂
And from the sounds of some forums the 3.8 was more reliable too.
Also that explorer is really reliable my mom has one at like over 150k miles hope you enjoy it ❤
@@sixpest The Duratech 3.5/3.7L engine (used in the Explorer, Flex and other lines) is a good motor, but the water pump is driven off the timing chain. A horrible design and very costly repair! You'll never really know when it'll go bad, and when it does, it floods the engine with coolant. Before you know it's leaking (internally) you've wasted crank\con rod bearings. With 150K on the clock it's not if but when will it leak and nuke the motor. Google it.
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Thank you! More to come too, let me know if there is anything in particular that interests you.
I’ve owned a few Jeeps. I love to off road in the mountains and desert. I owned a Cherokee and a Wrangler in the 90’s. I agree, since the 90’s they’ve gone down hill in quality while getting way expensive. In 2018 I bought a 8 year old 4Runner SR5. Great vehicle. And it out off roads any Jeep I ever had. Way more reliable to. I still own it and have only change the brake pads. Oil change to oil change, no issues. We just bought a 2024 4Runner in the TRD Off Road Premium Trim. It was way cheaper than a comparable Jeep and 10x the vehicle. I’m sold on Toyota and will probably never go back. I think Chrysler Corp as a whole is headed the wrong way and is out of touch with Americans and what we want.
Preach brother, you are saying what I hear too often, and it shouldn't be this way. However, I am very glad to hear you have solid vehicles and are happy with Toyota. I am all about doing what is best. Thanks for the comment :-)
I had a 2015 2dr rubicon wrangler. I loved it being a manual for off-roading. But after a few years I was sick of the small size as I couldn't use it for much. Plus the payments. So I traded it in for a 2002 Toyota Tundra. It's my dream truck! Perfect size for everything I need. Paid off which is even better! And no extra bs maintenance needed as I can do almost all repairs myself. So far it's been totally awesome with only minor issues like the o2 sensors. It's at nearly 200K miles now without any major hiccups. Toyota really does have an edge. Plus I love the older ones cause they look cooler and are smaller thus more practical. I can actually use the bed vs my dad's 2023 Dodge Powerwagon. I can hardly put anything into that bed cause it's just way too huge. If only vehicles could be smaller and more practical. And cheaper. These days I can't hope to afford a new car at all. Plus I don't want to. Too many government nanny features and difficult to repair lol. I'll gladly stick to older, proven vehicles.
What people forget is that the engine and driveline in the jeep is leftover from Mercedes / Daimler Benz. They are the company that ran Chrysler in the ground stole their best technology and left a pile of ruin behind. To compare jeep to Mercedes is in effect comparing the same company mechanically. As a former claims adjuster for mechanical repairs I would never buy a Mercedes or bmw product. To much failure rate.
They need to make a higher quality $20k no tech variant to recover.
The luxury car niche isn't a place for wranglers.
I have a jk and it's consistently unreliable despite babying beyond the manual.
Preach my friend. I have seen some information & videos about them toying with the idea of a Jeep Wrangler "Shortcut"...but you and I both know it will be overpriced to the gills and just not worth it. What motor do you have in your JK? 3.6?
Itll be junk bro. Every corrupt regulator that comes by theyll be kneeling bowing obeying complying and worshipping like orwells 1984
@@A-BombEnergyabsolutely.
Yep it's the 3.6 v6 pentastar
Jeep is following the inverse correlation of "make it worse and sell it for more" quite vigorously. I went to a Jeep dealership a few months ago and asked how many people they had let go. When the sales rep. said "None", I told him maybe I'd be back when the had learned something. I'm now looking at Toyotas again.
I cannot agree more. They seem to think they are invincible...I don't get it. Treat the customers like we are the lifeline of the company...oh wait we are. I own two small businesses and I cannot imagine for the life of me treating my customers that way. What kind of Toyota are you looking at? 4Runner? Taco?
@@A-BombEnergyHaving owned 5 Toyotas over the last 20 years, I am totally sold on them and wouldn’t consider any other brand. While there are undoubtedly some Toyota stealerships around, my dealership repair shop is as honest and competent as any that I have ever worked with.
Its like tesla saying they sell every cybertruck they make but then they dont want you selling it for a year. Surrree bud. So popular new yorkers who dont even drive still havent bought one.
The maintenance side is an example of untrained employees that don't even bother to verify that they completed their work. As with the oil, all they'd have to do is pull the dip stick.
Totally agree. My understanding is that Technicians don't change the oil. Dealerships basically use untrained techs to do that type of work. My dad always taught me to ALWAYS check the oil after you changed it. Who knows...maybe it all didn't come out.
Untrained techs? We used to call them grease monkeys!
I HAD a 2017 Lexus GX - changed the oil at the dealership (because I didnt have the time to do it myself). I gave them AMSOIL and AMSOIL filter. The shitty tech put in house oil and their filter - and didn't tell me or own up to his mistake. I ran the car 10K miles. It burnt and gunked. I traded it in. I swore, never to have anyone touch my cars ever again.
The samelow quality scam job is taking place amongst the engineering and bean counter rooms
For years decades, Jeep would show exciting concepts at the Easter Jeep Safari, everyone loved them and asked to have them immediatly for sale...they never would, they would just completely ignore us.
Yup, I’ve seen that so many times. I don’t understand how they can run the company like that and not produce results. Ford is doing similar things too. I’m making a film about them as we speak, I just uploaded the trailer a few days ago. Check it out and let me know what you think. 🇺🇸🫡
That was an insanely well done video
Thanks for the compliment, I’ll be making more like this. Already have so much on the docket and can’t wait to get it to you guys ❤
I’ll stick with my golden era 2000-2014 Toyotas, Hondas, and Mazdas. (Manuals)
Yeah brother, those are for sure the golden years for those. Unfortunately, Toyota is moving a lot of their manufacturing to Mexico...Ford is too. What are your thoughts on Ford? They are the next installment in this series, the full film will be out in a few days. However, the trailer is posted if you want to check it out. Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions/experience with Ford. Thanks for commenting, have a great weekend. -Brandon
Was not expecting only 800 subs from this guy. Amazing video and information dude
Thanks man, I had 13 subscribers before I posted this video. I make films professionally, figured I would apply the same skill here. I am starting an Energy Drink company and I love cars, figured I would combine the two :) Look forward to future conversations with you brother. New film will be out in a few days, stay tuned! 😁
I needed a vehicle. My wife was pregnant and I was hit by a drunk driver. The closest dealer to me was Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler/Ram. I went there and drove off in a Jeep Cherokee Sport. Last y ear I sold it. It only had 35,000 miles on it. It was paid off. Why did I sell it? Because every week it had a check engine light come on, plastic pieces was falling off of it from the bottom, the interior, and the foam protection on the hood above the engine was disintegrated. We never missed a maintance, our driving habits was in town with maybe a cross state once or twice a year, and it sat in a garage.
Wow! I am sorry to hear that she got hit by someone so careless, especially while pregnant! I am a new father, so I understand that concept even more now. I am unfortunately not at all surprised by the workmanship of your cherokee...they only seem to put "quality" workmanship into the wranglers and gladiators...maybe the Wagoneer's but I have yet to get my hands on one for an extended period of time. I've used one as an evacuation platform for a casualty, but I was kinda busy in the back to take notice of the 130K vehicle that was getting bodily fluids everywhere on the inside haha. Have you replaced the vehicle with something else?
@@A-BombEnergy Yes, we ended up getting a Toyota. It even comes with 2 years of free maintenance (comes out to be 4 oil changes and 8 tire rotations) and a lifetime of free car washes. But, we saw reviews of some toyotas going 1million miles, 600k miles, 400k miles, and mechanic YT channels praising how Toyotas are over engineered. They are also pretty much making everyone of their vehicles available in hybrid. We are really happy with it so far.
Basic Jeeps now!
Preach!
I'd like a CJ-TJ combo. I like real gauges, I like the simplicity of the CJ dash. I liked my hubs on the CJ that I had to get out and lock them in, not pneumatic
Mahindra and Baic sell those south of the border.
good content, but lets face it, every brand is going downhill. Who is to blame? the CEO, the board of directors, or the assembly workers, the unions ? the robots ? who knows. I factory ordered a 2024 2dr Jeep wrangler Sport MT, no options other than hardtop for just under $31K, it is not my daily and only take it out on sunny weekends. you can still find deals if you do your research, or work on your own vehicles if you have the skills or last option just lease
Congrats on the Jeep! I hope you like it. My only rebuke to that purchase, is that is expensive in comparison to what they used to be only a few years ago. Jeep was supposed to be the factory base model out the door price for around 25k. I just can't accept such high prices. But that is relative and dependent upon how someone values money? Did you get that baby in RED? Two door red jeep is sexy.
Thank your govt... and they are all guilty... for creating massive amounts of money and dumping into our economies.... poof, price increases for everything....
Great video, great research, and fantastic perspective. My only critique is the ultra wide resolution looks like shit. Especially at @1:34 where you have a clip that's now hovering in the middle of a black vignette because the resolution is a long rectangle. I may be the minority perspective though. Regardless, subbed and can't wait for more content! Your subscriber count will definitely reflect how high quality your videos are soon if you keep up the good work.
Thanks for the kind words and I appreciate the feedback. I usually do widescreen format for the cinematic element, but sometimes it can bite me in the butt because like what you stated with the quality with some clips. I will work harder on finding better quality ones my friend. Thanks for the sub, the next installment in this series is on Ford, trailer is posted if you want to check it out. The full Ford film will be out in a few days. Just waiting on some clips to come in. Look forward to future conversations with you my friend. -Brandon
Great video, how do you only have 48 subscribers? Keep it up you are doing great work.
Thank you very much for the compliment! I am new to TH-cam, so I'd imagine the subscribers will come. This is my first REAL video. I am already working on the next video. Hope to see you there :)
German vehicles should only be leased. I own 2 jeeps presently and found 6 quarts put into my jeep on the first service oil change. I do both of my JL’s myself. Won’t let the dealer touch them when it comes to service. I installed both jeeps with catch cans and it’s amazing how much oil is caught in just a few drives. Also installed the Baxter replacement filter setup to keep oil in the top of the motor to almost stop the cranky dry startups. Amazing I have to do this to a 2018 and 2022 product.
Edit: Oh and don’t get me started on the rust I had to clear and repaint on the wheel mounting surfaces of both jeeps on all 4 corners of both vehicles. I live in the SW desert in Utah lol. I couldn’t imagine having these back east. Sheesh it would be a mess.
You aren't wrong about German cars, I am taking a pretty big risk. My only hope is that since Toyota was involved with the manufacturing of the B58 motor we will see some reliability improvements. As for the Jeeps rusting, I am still shocked by how many people I hear having this issue. I had this issue with mine but on the frame. I had to ended up sanding all the welds and coating them with Eastwood's underbody frame spray. So far after 6 years its held up and that is with a decent amount of off-roading and trips to OBX where we drive on the beach. Thanks for commenting and sharing your experience.
Do A GM and FORD episode
Yes sir, they are on the list. Working on another episode but GM and FORD are 100% going to get some too. Thanks for the suggestion, hope to see you in the comments when I make them :)
I do my own oil changes and tire rotation. The Jeep Penstar motor is one of the easiest motors to do an oil change on. There's no need to go to the dealership for any services.
Agreed. Just changed my oil a few days ago and it was so simple. I let mine drain for about 30 minutes though. Sooo much more comes out. I’ll do a video next oil change to show it.
If not a warranty repair/recal, I don't go to dealers for anything. I despise car dealerships.
I don't like Jeep because of looks or its road comfort. A short wheelbase, solid front and rear axle, ujoint-connected drivetrain, and inline 6 made it an awesome crawler off road. I wouldn't buy a Jeep never than a TJ.
Ryan, I don’t think many Jeep enthusiasts like myself would disagree with you. Out of my three jeeps, the TJ is hands down the best one. Assuming you own a TJ? I really wish Jeep didn’t end production of the inline 6/4 because it had potential to be refined. The 3.6 isn’t bad but it’s too complicated and it’s left me stranded on the side of the road where my 4.0 has not. Thanks for commenting Ryan, hope to hear from you soon. -Brandon 😁
Good content, good production, you've earned my subscription!!!
Much appreciated! I promise to work hard for you guys and provide even better content than this. Any thoughts on what you want to see next?
@@A-BombEnergy land rover defender please
Never selling my TJ!
Nice editing for a channel with no subs. How'd you learn it?
Same, my TJ is amazing. What is the specs on your TJ? Thanks for the compliment too! I have been teaching myself for about 4 years. I have always enjoyed video editing and making content. Learning cinematography right now...so it's going to get even better :) Do you edit?
@@A-BombEnergy 04 Rubicon 5-spd on 35's, long arms, and 4.6 stroker. I'd like to learn but it's SO time consuming. Any suggestions?
@@A-BombEnergy Oh yeah...used to have a 2007 BMW 335i from 2010 to 2017. AMAZING to drive, but left me stranded and in dangerous situations many times. I wound up road tripping in my old 1995 XJ with 240k miles vs the 60k mile BMW because I trusted it more to get me where I'm going. NEVER left me stranded.
@@blurglide Change oil, ignore the noise the A/C makes, and a good radiator goes a long way.
@@blurglide Nice! That is a really good set up, I would never sell that bad boy either. I would suggest a few things that really helped me: 1. Find a topic you like, make some short videos on it. 5-10 minutes. 2. Watch other content and imagine trying to replicate, not clone but replicate with your own flare. 3. Find someone who is good at it and have them be your mentor. Have them watch your content and let them give you feedback and guide you through the process. I went solo for years and found a mentor and he changed my whole process. Friends and family will lie to you and tell you whatever you make is awesome. A mentor won't. 4. Watch awesome TH-camrs like Jaiver Mercedes, he gives great "How-To's". If you want to know more, DM me on Instagram.
Just subbed… you sure you’re not ripping this video from a big TH-camr?? The quality is insane for having 100 subs
Hahaha no I am not ripping it from another TH-camr. This is my business account for my company...that would be a REALLY bad look if I did lol. Thank you very much for the sub, let's try to get to 500 before the end of the month. Welcome to the legion brother.
I have owned one Wrangler a 2001 60 year edition 4.0 auto A/C 2 tops lock box it has been great 60 thousand miles now I keep it maintained and inside. Plow driveway in winter. tow a 5x10 trailer use it in our woods use it as a spare vehicle and a convertible in the summer. And I would not trade even up on a new one. I listen to the problems buyers have had with them and the way they are made
I don't blame you at all for not wanting to upgrade it. I almost want to make you an offer for it!
The days of the reliable WW2 Jeep are long gone
Rob, we can bring it back 😁 Also, do you happen to have any experience with Ford? They are the next film in this series and it will be released in a few days. However, the trailer is posted, you should check it out and let me know what you think. I would love to hear your experiences or opinions. Thanks for commenting Rob, have a great weekend. -Brandon
😊 Jeep mgmt is Partying like CHARLIE SHEEN 😅
TURN OUT DA LIGHTS
DA PARTY'S OVER
Rick! You might be right😎 what do you think of Ford? I just posted the trailer on the next film and it’s on Ford. You should check it out and give me your suggestions 🇺🇸🫡
@@A-BombEnergy
Will do,
Thx for your work…
Well researched and presented. spot on review. I,m moving over to Toyota LAnd cruiser 1958 model
Thank you sir, I worked hard on this for you guys. I hope you get that land cruiser, if you do, make a video and shoot me a link.
I bought a Gladiator that was heavily discounted, it's was a decent deal. Only time will tell if I end up loving it or not... so far, I like it a lot. It seems good quality, but I guess we will see.
Congratulations on the new purchase! I really hope you like it; they are "good" vehicles and with proper maintenance I think it will fair you well. Is this your first Jeep?
@A-BombEnergy first Jeep? Yes. I came from a 23 Tacoma and still have a Land Cruiser. I go to Moab often and have friends with Jeeps. They are hard to beat for how they come out of the box. Good luck putting 37 or bigger tires on a Tacoma without a lot of custom work... anyway.
@@adrianw3985 Yeah I get that, they are def hard to beat out of the box. I actually leave mine stock because I simply don't need a spec'd-out jeep...yet lol. Tacos are nice though; I wouldn't mind one.
Hello from Italy! I'm paying the third mortgage of my life: the first was for the house, the second for the beach house, and the third, the current one, for my 80th anniversary Jeep Gladiator with OUR VM 3.0 Ecodiesel on it🤩👍 💪🥰🏁 -€79,000 the price of the latest ones imported here in Italy, but mine, paid 63,000, is now, after 30 months, still worth €59,000 👍-
@@motoacquatico1967 Hello from America! I love Italy, its such a beautiful country! We don't have many of the Eco Diesels in the US, I have heard they have issues! I hope yours runs perfect :)
The real problem is jeeps of today are garbage true shit box and at the price they are asking you can count me out
The price is unbelievable for what you get. I have been saying this for almost 10 years.
This seems to be late stage capitalism for most brands. Craftsman, jeep, remington, etc. Brands get bought by a company that is run ultimately by the bean counters and the soul is ruined.
The bean counters...such a perfect term I should have used for them in the video. What is this solution to this madness?
@@A-BombEnergy I wish I knew my friend.
Chinese cars manufacturers should expand into the USA market
I love my 4.0 L 98 Wrangler I have done a rr differential over haul and an exhaust manifold 100 k running like a champ !! The 06 was the last best jeep !! Fiat is the kiss of death they made poorly designed cars back in 1979 and before. Fix it again Tony !
Nice! I also have a 98 TJ. I think I am going to have to fix the rear end soon, change the diff fluid and those spider gears were looking rough... but she has 220,000 miles. Was it hard?
@@A-BombEnergy to avoid the Spyder gear fretting common jeep failure with ring and pinion gears . I recommend using a posi differential carrier like a Rubicon a much better setup then open 30 dana
@@A-BombEnergy to OH the rr differential it takes a few speciality tools to do it tork wrench dial indicator set up with paint pattern diff.gears mesh and drive 50 mikes pull cover ck for any in proper break in issues . Just doing Spyder gears not too bad they tend to freat excessive wear at 90k or less. Wranglers are built with excessive back lash play in differential ring and pinion gears . Buy American parts not Chinese or be sorry . Their machinests suck
2021 wrangler sport here...couldnt be happier!
Hey congrats with the vehicle! Its a still a good rig. I too have a Sport :) What color is yours?
We bought a 21 Ecodiesel Wrangler Rubicon new. We paid $52,680 OTD it was on the spool-down era of COVID but we’ve enjoyed it. It’s been good to us. No issues here, knock on wood, it has 58k miles on it.
Man that’s awesome to hear! I pray it continues that way for ya 😁
4xe is trash. Jeeps need a v8 thats not 100k and the current v6 needs to be the budget model. Maybe the 5.7 in alluminum.
It's crazy how much the V8 wrangler is! I don't understand why either! That engine is not that expensive from the factory.
I have a '96 xj, and I've had it for about 3 years. I bought it for just under $4k, and spent another $6k within a year fixing it up, getting new tires, etc. This is my first vehicle and I've spent a lot of money on it, but 20k miles later, and very little going wrong with it, i've come to really like it. I never did crazy offroading with it, but took it on gravel mountain roads several times a month. Super reliable and fun to drive, that I don't want to get rid of it. I have driven a '94 5.2 v8 grand cherokee, and that thing is fun to drive, but also really quiet as well. The current market of cars in general, especially jeeps, is just insane. My next vehicle that I would like is a grand cherokee zj, an early 00's lexus rx300/gx470, or if I had to get a newer vehicle (mid-late 2010's), it'd only be a 4runner. I will always have a soft spot for older jeeps, but not the newer ones.
This was a good video. Less than 100 subs was surprising to see, out of a solid video like this one.
Its crazy to think that these 90's and early 2000's Jeeps are still rolling strong on the roads. Very few cars can say they have this reputation, and you are living proof of what can be achieved. I believe Jeep is living off of people like you, or I guess living off a reputation they are openly desecrating. Lexus rx300 would be a sick ride or the 4Runner. I was pricing those out recently and couldn't believe how much they run for, even being 20 years old and having over 200,000 miles. But that is what quality work gets you. Thanks for the compliment. I am new to TH-cam, so I expect to have no subs for a while but it's okay. I will keep grinding and making quality content for you guys. Running 2 businesses and being active duty is rough, but I love the challenge. Thanks again for the sub.
@@A-BombEnergywhat branch are you in?
@@WhynotMinot Active Army :)
Change ur own damn oil
Totally agree with that sentiment. I get why people use the “free oil” changes but after that, just do it yourself. It’s so easy and cheaper. I even change my oil on my BMW, which everyone says you can’t do…
I hope Jeep watches your video. They need to hear this. Great Job on your video. 👍
I really hope so too. I would consult with them for free to fix the company. I hate to see our beautiful iconic companies dying.
The AMC 232 in-line six cylinder engine was the best - god balance of power, gas mileage, and reliability in a 1976 AMC Hornet and got 200,000 miles before i traded it off. Years later i owned a Dodge Shadow and i learned that hard way the dodge (to avoid) is a verb and not a noun (Dodge brand name) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha that is awesome, I will remember to view them as a verb! haha
This is a very well made video for you tube so well produced that it plays like a proper movie or documentary in miniature. I found the slick professional production values not only very pleasing on the eye but the points raised to be well thought out and persuasive. The result is a enjoyable informative short video for the car fan that is a credit to its makers and perhaps Jeep might just get the message. Oops I meant Fiat or who ever now owns the most iconic of American brands.
As someone who considers myself a Jeep enthusiast, mostly for the older models, I'm hoping this is the wake up call Jeep needs if it is to ever preserve its reputation.
I think you were spot on about Jeep's "heyday", it seems to correllate with the use of AMC components, I absolutely love the I6 engines. These were very capable and fun vehicles that you could easily work on in your driveway, and they have a certain unique feel to them, hence their old marketing phrase "there's a feeling you can get, only in a Jeep!" The company had a philosophy of creating simple, reliable, rugged off roaders that were wasy to work on and modify.
Then in the mid 2000s or so, they started putting out a lot more low quality crossovers like the Patriot and Compass, cutting corners, and using engines of questionable quality and reliability. They watered down the Wrangler a lot with the JK, turning the Wrangler from an old, utilitarian off roader to more of a modern SUV. It still could go off road, but a lot of that magic the older models had was lost. It felt like a 2000s Chrysler product, and that's not a good thing.
You still see old XJs, YJs, TJs, ZJs, etc both on and off road all the time, but I have such a hard time seeing these new models having anywhere near that longevity. They're so expensive that nobody is going to want to take them off road in the first place.
I get that most current Wrangler buyers tend to be older women who prefer more of a family vehicle with a cute appearance, but expecting them to pay BMW prices for a Fiat Chrysler is completely absurd.
This is one of my favorite comments thus far! You nailed everything in this. I barely take my JL offroad simply based on how expensive it is and I have maintained it beyond what is normal. I don't want to ruin her just yet. I do take her to the beach and off road a few times a year but that is light duty (unless I am pulling someone out who got stuck!)
There is a special feeling I do get when I drive my TJ, doors on and off. She is a special lady who works hard for me. I can't get rid of her. People have offered to buy my TJ and XJ I don't know how many times because they want that cheap jeep to off road in. Funny enough, many of them are JL owners!
Thank you for the comment, you are spot on.
@A-BombEnergy of course, it's nice to see a channel covering Jeep that's run by an actual fan of the company, it offers a better perspective than someone who doesn't really have much interest in them. Good video!
@@jack_5477 yup! Not a jeep hater, just highly dislike the corporate company ruining our brand. Thanks for the kind words.
100,000$ for a bronco is a waste of money
Couldn't agree more...
Jeep started dying when they discontinued the xj. Fiot was the final nail in the coffin. Rip jeep
Its such a sad turn of events. AMC really built incredible engines and arguably made Jeep even more popular today.
Bravo 👏🏼 great video!
my wife and i wanted to buy our first Jeep. she has always wanted a Wrangler since she was a child. so we started looking for a base 2 door manual. we gave up after all we could find were loaded up models over 70 grand (CAD).
Well thank you for the kind words. I appreciate that. Don’t give up on finding a good wrangler! You can find some out there, is just hard. Maybe look for a JK or TJ?
Sorry i’m Dane my opinion is there is only ever made very few brilliant US cars.
The JEEP wangler, Mustang 1960-70 and F150.
Driving American is like sailing high seas.
Sorry from Denmark. (Tiny country with no car production)
Hi from America! I love your country, its beautiful and so are the people. Its funny because I agree with you on these cars you speak of. Everything else is junk. I wish I could get a BMW Wagon here, we don't get them. :(
I've owned and driven Jeeps for over 30 years, but the last Jeep that I bought was a 2005 model and I will likely never buy another. My 2005 Jeep is still running well, but it has an electronic control module that Jeep discontinued manufacturing or stocking almost a decade ago. The are no new modules to be found anywhere now and used ones can not be rebuilt. If that module fails, the Jeep is unusable and will go to the scrapyard, even though the rest of the vehicle is perfectly serviceable. The used car market now values the vehicle at little more than scrap value. Meanwhile, many Ford or GM vehicles that have been out of production for decades longer still have necessary critical repair parts available. And CDJR wonders why fewer and fewer people have any loyalty to its products . . .
Wow, what an incredible comment. I didn't know about this problem with the 2005 models. I'll add that to my tool kit of knowledge. Jeep is way to quarterly profit driven and satisfying the board...when they should be trying to satisfy the customer. Have you checked to see if there are any aftermarket companies that make it? Like doorman or something?
I just purchased a 1999 Sahara for $7K with 165K miles. I replaced all suspension components, all liquids, all joints and seals (did it myself) - for less than $4K. Im in less than 12k. If the engine blows, I can replace it for less than 4K - however, it runs like a top - hoses, injectors, cap, rotor, cables, plugs - all replaced. I love this TJ, it is simply AWESOME.
I am so happy to read this comment, I can relate because I did something very similar. Mine just has more miles. Its such a great vehicle and so much fun to drive. Do you have any plans for it? Lifts or wheels and tires?
@@A-BombEnergy I put in Bilstein 4600, OME stabilizer. It has a 4" BODY lift - hence it gets to keep all of its geometry. It has deep dish aluminum old school (like Mickey Thomson) with 33". The tires clear fine and are good. But. I will upgrade to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss 33" next go around. I will be adding windshielf bar with light (old school style, KC), new Bestop. I put in a Walmart brand head unit that supports wireless Android Auto & Apple Car Play. Kicker speakers all around. Kicker 12" sub in the rear. Coming up is a Tuffy center console, security tailgate, glove box. Spicer diff covers...the list goes on LOL :)
@@aportilla007 Haha thats really awesome, I feel you on the list...mine goes on and on too (in my head hahaha aka wish list)
My Dad and Brother both had Jeeps and they both sold them after 2 years of owning them. I've been in Love with the Two Door Jeep Willy's. So many people are telling me NOT TO BUY a Jeep. It's Heart Breaking thinking my Dream Vehicle is a POS. And Sad Jeep discontinued the Purple color in 2023. 💜 Bring it back PLEASE
They can be solid vehicles if you maintain them and understand things will break more than other cars, like a Toyota. Don't give up on it yet. I would suggest buying slightly used and NEVER buy new. Do what you can not to support the "company" and support the community. You could always wrap your Jeep purple ;) Thanks for the comment my dear.
People on top of Stellantis are better at financial engineering than mechanical engineering. Just watch them fill their own pocket with cash, load the company up with debt, and then sell it off and pocket even more cash. They don't have any interest on selling more cars.
Don't forget Jeep brand also files for bankruptcy in China, (THE LARGEST AUTOMARKET). If they don't even try to fight the Chinese Cars in China, they will have zero strategy or exprience fighting Chinese brand like BYD when they show up in their own back yard.
Stellantis is also hell bend on cutting cost right now to protect their Stock price rather than investing into the next generation product lines, it will only go downhill from here.
Hopefully Jeep brand will be sold to someone who care about cars and rebuild the brand.
Wow, I didn't know they went bankrupt in China...I heard they were there and were getting crushed. Makes sense if they went bankrupt. China also did a knock off Wrangler too...wild stuff.
Doesn’t seem that long ago I could get a wrangler manual for under $30,000CDN (23,000US)
It wasn't that long ago, people keep blaming inflation, and to a certain extent they are correct. But Jeep is clearly inflating their own prices too.
I have an old wrangler but won't be buying any new models. No way Im spending that much money and they are making jeeps way to luxurious with all the electronics now. No thanks. Jeeps should be manual everything!
That seems to be the route that most people are taking, especially the diehard wrangler enthusiast. What kind of wrangler do you have? Unfortunately, it seems like all of the major domestic car companies are going this route. Ford is probably one of the worst ones. They are actually next in this series and I just posted the trailer for it. If you have time, check out the trailer in the full film will be out in June.
Jeep has been dead since 2006 when they killed off the 4.0
I got 3 jeeps myself. 99 XJ, 88 YJ, 83 SJ. My entire family loves jeeps
But i could never bring myself to buy a newer one.
Man you have a wonderful collection of jeeps. I hope to get a YJ soon and rebuild it 😀
@@A-BombEnergy thanks, yeah the YJ Is my most recent one. Love it so far. if you get a YJ tho, definitely go for 1991 and later one with the 4.0 and AX15 (if you prefer manual). 88 has the 4.2 which aint bad but a little sluggish, but worst of all has a Peugeot BA10 manual transmission, which is a pretty light duty and weak transmission with an internal slave design that requires the tranny to be pulled to be replaced(which to be fair the AX15 had this till 94.) I was unlucky enough to have my internal slave fail 2-3 weeks into owning it lol. So its currently in the shop for the clutch and whole 9 yards. If you can, i would find a 1994/95 with the external slave AX15 if you go the manual route.
I owned a 1989 YJ. Biggest pos ever. I know jeep has made some good vehicles, but there's so much garbage from that company now. I have an 11 year old Toyota FJ I will never part with.
Wow usually people have great things to say about the YJ. Did you have the 4.2l engine? I’m no expert but my understanding is that before the 4.0l hit the YJ’s, the 4.2l was hit or miss. Thanks for the comment and FJ’s are awesome! Toyota needs to bring them back!
Really nicely done video! Professional and informative. Nice work. It's painful to see what has been happening to one of the most iconic brands in America.
Thank you my friend and yes, it is very painful. I am doing another one on Ford. I posted the trailer for it a few days ago, give it look and see if it interests you. If you have any suggestions, I am all ears. The full film on Ford will be out by Mid June. I hope to see you in the comments there, lets revive these old brands! :)
"China will be the dominant global player in the transportation sectors of the future." ~Bloomberg Technology
Thank you for sharing that. I will use that in my next film which is on Ford. I just posted the trailer last night if you want to check it out. Look forward to seeing you in future comments. -Brandon
Greed is killing Jeep, just like all of the other auto makers. Jeep can go back to its roots and make a basic, rugged vehicle for a reasonable price or it can continue to try to sell "trail rated" (what a joke) vehicles for grossly inflated prices... and go under. The Jeep I knew is long dead.
You nailed it brother. I have no problems with them keeping luxury models, but they need to really look at who buys Jeeps and its not the Mercedes or BMW crowd. Its people who want that rugged off road vehicle.
The sales, I can understand are down, but there’s two factors that play into this one. Inflation is very high, which means the economy is weak. Nobody’s got money for a car and number two. The new jeeps really suck a lot.
I can't argue with any of this. Thanks for the comment my friend :)
Is it really that difficult?
If the excuse is that they’re chasing short term profits, that makes sense and blaming it all on that is reasonable enough.
But if this is all incompetence, then what are these other companies doing that you’re not. If Toyotas can last, then why can’t yours?
I love Jeep.
But I have no intention of buying one anytime soon.
Exactly, you are totally right. They should be following the Toyota mindset and perfect, not commit to drastic changes. I think the 3.6 can be at that level, they just need to commit to that.
not a jeep person myself, i prefer me and old subie loyale/leone. but for people who do like jeep, this is purely outrageous. people can't enjoy a new product from the manufacturer of their favourite cars because "hur durr me profits"
insanity
I respect what Subaru has done and built. Not mine kind of company but mad respect to them. I get companies need to make a profit and I’m all for it but when you put profit first, that’s when a company starts to decline. Owning a company (like myself) you have to put solving a problem and the money will follow.
Jeep has catered to whales instead of its loyal customer base. Too many electronics, mini van engines, wide screen radio, disconnecting axle, etc. It's an off road vehicle, not a yuppie flex/ discussion piece.
Your descriptions made me laugh audibly haha
I loved jeep up until they released the renegade, every new car they make just looks worse and worse, and they lost the identity of what made them cool. They're a wanna be luxury brand with all of these new SUVs
It’s such a shame because the renegade used to be an awesome iconic model. They are insulting the legacy by calling a fiat 500 with a face lift a renegade. But it seems all car brands are doing this…ford is going to get a video soon.
There is no incentive to make good cars that are cheap. Especially since they can always lobby the government for protectionist policies like the 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.
Dude, you nailed it. If you feel this way, check out the trailer for the next film, it’s on Ford. Full film will be released in June. I’m going to cover a lot of what you said. It will blow your mind.
Jeep is a good metaphor for the US in general, an absolute hero. Super Chad in ww2, unkillable super vehicle. Soy Car now, pathetic and over priced
Can I steal this for the next video? I will give you credit of course.
Toyota Mazda Honda good mantra to learn if buying a car ,new or used
You seem to think it’s bad in merica try getting jeep parts ,jeep service or just good ol customer service anywhere else in the word from jeep
Oh man I couldn't imagine getting customer service if I was in another country. I saw some Jeeps in Europe a few months ago. But very very few.
best off road grand Cherokee 4xe trail hawk = $69k the others are mall mobiles limited or luxury cars = overland , summit ,summit reserve
69k...that is more than half the costs for some people's homes. I simply don't get it.
Wow, I’ve always wondered why stelantis car manufacturers were charging such prices for their vehicles.
Thanks for commenting! Glad I was able to provide some insight, there is more like this to come :)
When my 2012 Grand Cherokee's 3.6L had engine failure literally one day out of factory warranty, the dealership recommended I call the Corporate number and see what they can do.
They told me "We can give you 3% off a new Jeep". I basically got told "your current jeep is fucked and we're not helping you, but we WILL help you spend more money with us".
Never again.
Are you serious? What on earth is wrong with Jeep. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that, it’s not fair to you as not even just a customer but as a human being. I couldn’t imagine treating one of my customers like that. So what’s the brand you ended up moving to? -Brandon
Thinly veiled ad for Jeepwave
Wait, this video? It openly condemns it 😂
Horrible engines and extremely poor quality !!! Don’t buy one and be a sucker !
Man, I am already sucker for these things...I just wont ever buy a new one again...lol
I’ve got my 2006 Wrangler Unlimited that I will keep until it blows up. Then I will rebuild it and drive it some more. I won’t touch one of these new fiats with a twenty foot pole. Especially for $60K - $80K.
You got the last good year Wrangler...that's awesome, don't ever sell her.
@@A-BombEnergy I knew I wanted the 4.0 and the long wheelbase, but I DID NOT want 4 doors. That left only 04-06. I got lucky.
ya;ll keep buying them too