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I remember the statement of a former British Leyland employee giving interview to Jeremy Clarkson on his 'who killed British car industry". he said - "So suddenly we had an influx of suit wearing MBAs walking in the factory who couldn't tell a nut from a bolt, telling folks who been building cars all their lives that the reason why the company is in trouble is because of them"
Exactly
It didn't help when BL went to the British government for a bailout and the politicos themselves were not car people.
If they were, they could've wrenched BL's arm behind its back and forced it to stop overlapping models and give each part of BL its own market niche and unique models while sharing some common parts and suppliers. That and settle the disputes between management and labor by gov't decree. Pay your workers, honor your commitments, and in return, the workers must give BL an honest day's work. BL must invest in new tooling and not one penny for golden parachutes.
The government could've tied its bailout to replacement of MBA's with engineers. BL would be a major automaker today if they'd done that.
The British were never really into cars and never very proud of their mechanical aptitude.
@@SaraK_69 Is it that or were the British workers of the time simply not inclined to suffer management abuse? As American workers currently are?
@@BlackPill-pu4vi management abuse is something particular to England. In the US, they have guns and unions.
Everything went downhill when accountants took the leadership position from engineers
That’s making an excuse - arrogant greed is the only culprit
Totally agree brother. There is a symbiotic relationship within these departments and the CEO has to be the ultimate decider. But when the CEO is concerned about short term profits and not caring about their customers....what can we do. Buy foreign is what I do now. What do you think the answer is? -Brandon
I think that is implied with what my man is saying in his comment though. Accountants tend to get a bit greedy and care about short term profits. -Brandon
yup. I lived it working for a oem supplier. the accountants just wanted what was cheaper not what would work.
It's actually the opposite. The engineers took over from the businessfolk.
The executives' job is not to make cars. It's to manage a large company. Engineering skills are uncorrelated.
Companies think they're saving money cutting corners not realizing they're losing money from returning customers that will never buy from them ever again
They dont care because the people doing these decisions are there to make the most money on a short term than leave the problem to the next.
It is because these companies, along with most other legacy companies are being ran not by experts in their industries, but by bean counters and MBAs.
Ok. Cars are a necessary utility in America.
You buy German for luxury not reliability, and Japanese (Toyota/Honda) for reliability not luxury. If you do neither well you’ll become obsolete.
Mike, absolutely brother. They don’t understand the basic business concept of life time customer value. You think there will be a change anytime soon? -Brandon
I work at a ford dealership and hear multiple people a day ask why ford stopped selling the fusion and that they want it back. There is a huge market still for sedans
I think you are right on that brother. I just conducted a Poll here in YT and while not scientific, it did show a ton of people either drive sedans or want to drive sedans. I’m really beginning to think they stopped selling them so they can charge more money….you probably know best though brother. Thanks for the comment my friend. -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy That's, what German automaker do and they tell that openly: We do stop producing smaller cars, because we can get more profit from SUVs and people are buying them nonetheless.
They cheated us with emission controls, they certainly didn't ly in this case.
Meanwhile communities constantly keep reducing parking space to scare people off buing cars at all in favor of more electric bicycles.
By the way - all our discounters had to enlarge the footprint of their parking spaces, because the old standard didn't know about todays obese vehicle dimensions. Fat SUVs for fat people.
@@A-BombEnergythere is also the ideologically-driven propagation of EVs as the be-all end-all solution to the fabricated myth of anthropogenic climate change.
EVs will be a game changer for people that need to rely on individual automotive mobility. And it's not going to be a good one.
the ford fusion had the worse in class fuel economy of all hybrids of comparable size(sedans and 4 door hatchbacks) compared to other brands; I think their hybrid maverick has very comparable MPG to the fusion despite being a pickup truck
i ended up putting a bit more money into buying the ioniq hybrid and i love it; very reliable and insanely good MPG, i brag about it to my friends because i think hybrids are an underrated segment of the market that will only get better as car batteries get better in the coming years
Ford should brink back the Escort. The problem is the government won't let them make small cars anymore because of CAFE standards.
American automobile manufacturers thought engineers where overhead they can do without. Threw the internal experience away and did not back fill the knowledge vacuum. Basically upper management have non automotive background and doesn't have a clue about car engineering and the market itself.
They aren't allowed to have a clue most of the time: government has captured nearly all design criteria. If you feel bold, try a paper exercise pretending you were going to make a headlight assembly for use by any major car maker - just focus on the design submission side of subassembly [forget production] that can pass regulatory inspection in oh.. US, Brazil, and Canada. How many tests will be needed, what equipment or third party services must be procured to do all those tests, what is the submittal scheme/forms/how does it work [part of a full vehicle prototype inspection set, or stand alone] etc What SAE standards will you be required to produce certifications on for submittal? [Careful - those docs find warranty and recall claims down the road sometimes]. Notice the science part isn't created by engineers with a "better mousetrap" mind in place, then wonder where the hell Selective Yellow went as your eyes fry from todays led arrangements presenting in oncoming traffic and... those $34.95 blue blockers all of a sudden sound like a great christmas gift.
But to your point, there is one thing we likely agree on: "efficiency experts" are able to destroy the quality of almost anything if they aren't boxed in up front with a certain limited focus. If a submission fails... its either pay for engineering to fix it, or step into lengthy trial & error conducted by Boudreaux's Backard Buffoons, or stare into the abyss of payoffs and the vultures that will come around again and again to "support the community" [with their hand out].
Michael, I don't think anyone would disagree with this statement brother. I certainly don't. We are literally witnessing it right now. -Brandon
Only ever owned cars, not SUVs, not trucks. Ford straight out said "I don't want your business" when they removed cars from their lineup. Now they're having financial problems? SMH 🤦😂
Are we surprised they are in this current state lol? I really wish they could get it together and stop the nonsense lol. What are you going to purchase next? -Brandon
same here. I exclusively buy sedans. GM and Ford simply lost my business.
In the UK, they dropped the fiesta (best selling car in the UK previously), focus (very good selling car) and the mondeo (staple ford car of the uk). They’ve replaced it with all SUVs, which is why their market share has fallen off a cliff. Ford don’t understand their market, both in the US and UK.
@sickbozzer as ford has come to understand with their market share, bigger is not better
remember that Ford was THE manufacturer of the Crown Victoria. we’ve come a full 180 since then
6:42 you know what's really restrictive? Having a big suv you over payed for with a knob that you use to select gears, an e brake that's just a switch that you can't even use when the car is moving, and a big screen that controls everything, has horrible build quality, and costs a fortune to replace.
Exactly brother. That was a rep from ford and it blew my mind when he said that. I just had to put it in the video. Now Ford is talking about making sedans again 😂😂😂 -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy That's why the GMT400-era trucks and SUVs were my favorite generation. The GMT800 era was also good too, and the GMT900 was good too. Everything else after that...at least GM kept the V8.
Its not an e brake at that point, it's just a parking brake. I fully agree to the point though
Amen to that. I hate every single feature you mentioned. You cannot even get your own radio anymore…a knob to select gears?!!! WTH?…and the most stupid of them all: an emergency brake that you can only find if you TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE ROAD DURING AN EMERGENCY?!!! How idiotic is that!!!!
@@Hulk-mc7bp That is why older cars tend to be better.
300k should be the standard for reliability that most cars hit.
You can’t expect the average owner to take care of a car that long. The average owner will kill it long before then.
That literally over 25 years of ownership
@@Gchang54 I've seen 3 cars to 300k. I always lose my cars to rust up here in the north east. Always same answer. This last time with my 08 Escape. It would of given you another 100k all day, but the frame just wasn't having it
If you do proper maintenance, most engines will make it that far. It's the other parts that will fail you first. The problem is, most people are not very good at making sure they do proper maintenance.
@@PenguTT44-sh2oe I'm in the north east too, and I can relate. I have a 07 acura mdx with 160k on it with a lot of life left but the body says otherwise.
My mom fell victim to a GM Encore turbo. Mechanics did a bandaid fix because it was during covid and they couldn't get the proper parts. She flipped it on Carvana and bought a CR-V.
Wow I’m sorry she had to deal with that but I’m glad she was able to get some money back from it and get a nice CRV. How long has she had it and has it given her any issues? I thought about getting one but got a VW instead. (I love German cars…a little too much) -Brandon
It's quite interesting. Here in Europe many elderly people drive the Opel/Vauxhall Mokka (the Buick Encore is just a rebadged old Opel). Not that many people have problems with that engine, they are also found since 2009 in the Astras (they share a lot with the Cruze) or the 2014-2019 Corsas (a subcompact car)
Not that many people have problems with them or people just don't tell everyone about it like the americans do; which don't get me wrong is a good thing.
If we have models with identical or similar engines I first look what you guys have to say about it, since you're constantly in the car driving somewhere.
You bring up some very valid points here brother. Where in Europe are you? Last time I was there, I didn’t see a single American car lol which I liked because our cars are terrible. I wonder though if some of the engines are made in different places compared to Europe and the US? Like if Buicks get engines made in Korea or Europe and America gets engines made in China or Mexico? Idk just a thought. -Brandon
Alot of Americans run conventional oil through these engines despite what they call for. A lot of mechanic shops also don't diagnose PCV problems correctly making the engine a nightmare of oil leaks.
There are two core problems with the little Opel 1.4 turbo are 1. The thermostats are set too high & 2. The PCV system is not designed to be serviced. If the cars used a normal 195 degree thermostat & a 15psi cap on the radiator, combined with an external PCV valve, I believe that the GM LUJ would easily fight a corolla for longevity.
American regulations led to car companies profiting off of SUVs and trucks do to their more relaxed fuel economy restrictions. Car manufacturers pivoted and made people think that what they needed were massive cars and trucks for their daily lives. That's why you can't see anywhere down the road during even light traffic and I hate it. Great video.
Oh brother you are so correct here. The marketing teams are doing a heck of a job at making people think its what they need. I am student of business (I own two and active duty army) and I always study their commercials and websites. Its so obvious. Thanks for comment and kind words too my friend. I am working on the next film as we speak. -Brandon
I hate SUVs and trucks so much. They're big and obnoxious, and they're spreading to my market like a plague (eu)
100% on the cant see around trucks now. I have to veer out of my lane to check around those fools!
And when you pass by all the morons who have them… there’s only 1 person inside!
It's even worse when it rains. They throw up so much mist, its like driving in heavy fog.
Ford used the dual cam modular 4.6 (Crown Vic engine) in a variety of models such as the F-150, Expedition, Mercury Grand Marquis , Thunderbird, some Lincolns and even the Mustang. It underwent a series of changes and redesigns over the span of a little over 20 years, but it’s always been recognized for its reliability.
I’m 43 yrs old and an enthusiast who’s worked in the automotive industry for the past 23 years. Over the years I’ve seen model lines come and go.. and sometimes come back again. All of my life I’ve been used to seeing Ford, Chevrolet, Chrysler cars along with their subsidiaries running the roads. There have been some good ones and bad ones, some that provided a sense of pride, some providing good memories, always looking forward to the next year model while keeping the previous model going. They all may not always have been the most reliable, but for the most part they were good cars. Today they’re all gone.. I’ve never seen anything like it. I don’t know., It’s just sad I guess.
Yes sir, you are right on the money there. I’ve seen guys do swaps with other mustangs old and newish. Amazing engine. Do you think they should have kept it and tried to make it more efficient? -Brandon
@@MrKnoxguy101 the v8 in the crown vic most of the other panther cars except the marauder was the 2v SOHC engine not DOHC
Well in a sense they did keep it. Its replacement, the Modular 5.0 Coyote kept the 8.937 in. deck height, 3.937 bore, connecting rod length and the bell housing bolt pattern so it could be machined and assembled on the same production line that the 4.6 and 5.4 were built on using pre-existing Modular engine production tooling. They’re known for exceeding 250,000 miles when well maintained. Due to the simplicity of the blueprint, they’re rock-solid and very reliable.. this is likely why it’s under the hood of the only remaining car that Ford still makes.
@@chrislong8986 Yeah you’re right.
I am going to make the long story short.
Made in Japan.
Still can’t believe they threw the 2.7 in the 300 and charger.
Some wild stuff isn’t it? The 2.7 you see in the video is my Charger. I bought that right out of basic training in 2010 and it still runs but man has it had some issues. I wish I knew about that engine though before I bought it. Thanks for commenting brother. -Brandon
It doesn't seem like a lot of engine in 2024. But, it's the DOHC evolution of the Chrysler 3.3l/3.8L pushrod V6 from the 1980's, the power output exceeds the 3.3L and nearly all of the 3.8Ls.
The Chrysler 2.7L also produces more power than many 5.0L and 5.7L corvettes and pickup trucks from the 1970's and 1980's.
It's a great engine....when it's running... but engineered terribly
Hard to believe it still has a POS 3.6 that blows valve rods and hemorrhages oil from the middle of the engine.
I have a stratus 2004 with the 2.7 v6 and it’s been issue after issue. Engine has been running well though
Ford messed up big time on the Focus & Fiesta transmissions and what gets me is that they continued to use the dual clutch even though they knew it had problems….. hardly see any Focus or Fiesta on the road
Not for buyers who purchased those vehicles with a "real" transmission...
@@mattkase6644I did end up buying a Focus brand new with a Manual Transmission….although I had to special order it as the dealership would only stock automatics.
Oh totally brother, I remember renting one years ago while I was at Fort Sill doing some training. I thought the transmission was slipping and the rental place told me its normal. I was like....there is no way...but oh it was way. lol Thanks for commenting brother, I hope you have a great Sunday. -Brandon
Most Fiestas and Focus I see on the road in my area are the ST and RS models that car enthusiast keep in good condition.
A lot of Fiestas and Focus has been driven in USA..
i drive a lexus gs350 and i don't think any of the american car brands are capable of building anything anywhere near as nice and anywhere near as reliable.
seriously; it's fast, it's reliable, it's simple under the hood.
CT5 blackwing with a manual.
I think you have a stellar car there brother. I do think American companies can build something on par with it, they literally just don't want to because they can't think long term. Its why Toyota/Lexus will always eat their lunch. Imagine if other Toyota products came to the US Market that we can't get...big three would be toast. -Brandon
I think the second-gen GS is an absolute work of art. Just a beautiful car with perhaps the greatest engine(s) ever put into a production car. I mean…dude…you had a choice between a Lexus/Toyota straight-6 or *THE* V8 from the LS! None of that plasticity turbocharged V6 stuff they’re cranking out now to make the finance department happy.
My first car was a used 2001 Grand Am 2.4l. Could get 32 mpg and was fun to drive. Sold it with 327k miles when I moved out of state. Interior was cheap but comfortable. Trunk size decent and I could get parts from the junkyard or ebay. My car now is a G6 gt v6 with a standard transmission. I drive trucks only at work.
I still drive my 2004 Pontiac Grand Am 3.4 litre. Just passed 200,000 and runs and drives pretty good with no issues. And if I need extra cargo space I just fold the seats down and I get more storage from the trunk. I used my car to ship the new hardwood flooring I bought. To say sedans can’t transport cargo is just not true.
@@ryans413 If yours has the foldable rear seats, that's an advantage. Mine didn't because it was the basic SE. I got rid of mine because I couldn't take two cars. But to me, the Grand Am had more attitude than the G6. It felt more connected to the road. I like my G6 coupe for its standard transmission. If yours has an automatic I suggest you install a transcooler. They are cheao and your transmission will stay happy.
@@kastellolo5212 I think mines an SE2 it’s not a GT
What you say is absolutely crazy to me because in 2001 they were making a car where you were getting 32mpg and got a ton of miles out of it. WHY on earth can't they do that now? Your comment only proves the point of this video and I thank you for sharing that with me and the rest of the viewers my friend. I bet that G6 GT is fun to drive, my friend had one with an automatic and it was pretty cool to be honest. What kind of trucks do you drive for work? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy I drive an Isuzu w5500hd 26 ft. The G6 is good and rare. I don't see many coupes but the four door version. I read somewhere that GM made 500 in 2006 and over 300 in 2007 with the 6 speed. I bought because that was what I could afford in 2020 and was expecting the Grand Am to die. It didn't :)
Think this is the first video I have ever watched that mentioned the Northstar V8 and not talk about the LS V8. Why GM decided to make an entirely new V8 engine for cadilac is beyond me...
Great video, as always!
This. I'll always love the looks of those 90s & 2000s Caddies like what's seen in _Sopranos_ or the very end of _Better Call Saul_ , and it's a damn shame that the reason not many of them are left (especially the DeVille & Seville) is all because GM and their infinite hubris decided to use the Northstar rather than the rock-solid LS or even the 3800 for these models.
Unless it had something to do with rust. I've spent my whole life in Georgia yet have to take a photo every time I see a 90s Caddy (apart from the first-gen Escalade) in the wild.
@@andrewhaywood1262 Aparently the reason was because they wanted to make a DOHC engine to combat the imports, but what boggles my mind is who would give a sh*t on if it were a DOHC or pushrod! Even before the Northstar GM had the small block which was rock solid and had a good reputation. What makes it even more obsurd is even when the LS1 came out in 97 they still had the audacity to keep usin the northstar in cadilacs only! why!?!?🤮
Thanks brother! I figured you guys didn’t need another lecture on the LS and tbh, you guys know WAY more about the LS than I do. I don’t understand GM or really American brand at all. It’s like they like destroying their cars 🤔
Cadillac traditionally had its own engines. While I’m not privy to the thought process inside GM at the time, I assume they thought the whole DOHC-aluminum-V8 thing is where the market was headed. And to be honest…anyone that drove a Lexus LS would’ve immediately thought that was the way to go, not a pushrod “truck” engine.
@@A-BombEnergy US brands are like trend chacers. They see something imports are doing, and try to replicate it. Very rarely (if ever) does it work lol
The domestic makers just pumped out mediocre cars for fleet and car rental sales. A missed opportunity to win over actual buyers however with positive rental experiences.
DUDE! EXACTLY! I have been saying this for years. Its honestly why I recently bought a BMW M340i, I rented one in Europe and I LOVED it. I also just picked up a VW Jetta because what I drove in Europe was great, rental experience was incredible. Do you think sedans will make a comeback anytime soon? -Brandon
I REALLY hope sedans come back & coupes! I hate SUVs with a passion, prefer passenger economy vans if I had to get a xlarge vehicle class. @@A-BombEnergy
BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING EUROPEAN OR JAPANESE SEDANS
Subaru is discontinuing the Legacy and Nissan is discontinuing the Versa, Altima, & Maxima. I personally prefer ecnoboxes, wagons, and MPVs. Unfortunately, our selection is limited here in the US.
Pretty wild isn't it? I've seen polls where people would buy American sedans or sedans in general if they were reliable. Those are probably the same people buying foreign sedans...like myself lol. -Brandon
@@busterdouglas2250I seriously doubt Nissan is canceling the Altima. It's a massive seller for the subprime credit market. Nor will Honda ever cancel the Civic or Accord, or BMW the 3 Series. The notion that Americans only want SUVs is beyond farcical. What we see from the domestics is supply dictating demand, not the other way around.
Only Democrats. Fun fact 85% of Democrats drive import cars
Americans doesn't cares about it.
Can't blame CAFE in totality or really at all. Every other car manufacturer has thrived, and grown post CAFE
Exactly, I do think they play a part but not completely. I think when people blame CAFE, they do it because it’s easy to do. Thanks for commenting and understanding where I’m coming from. -Brandon
The excuse I keep hearing is CAFE & emissions regulations caught the domestics with their pants down. They just didn’t have the technology ready. But I don’t buy it, the Japanese managed to do just fine. You can’t blame the government for flaky electronics, leaky head gaskets, transmission failures, etc.
Exactly, glad others see it like this! Its just an easy excuse. -Brandon
i still think cafe standards are stupid, they should be revised
@@chiiiiweeeee so that cars return to having stupidly unefficient engines like before? No thanks. Just include SUVs and trucks in it.
I bought a ‘21 Camry a few months ago. Before that I was driving my familys 2003 Ram which I’ll give credit has 200k miles but it’s definitely giving out with 3 oil leaks and more issues. I love driving the car it’s so much easier to drive and can go a little over 2 weeks on full gas tank.
So I am guessing you recommend the Camry? I think those are some of the most practical cars out there imo. Good for your Ram though, thats an over 20 year old truck, high miles and few oil leaks. Not bad to be honest. I wouldn't suggest selling it but if you did, I bet you would get some solid coin for it. I hope you got a good deal on your Camry, a few months ago was a great time to purchase a car in this current market. -Brandon
I enjoyed the old days of American wide front bucket seats. You don't see that anymore across all makes.
My sedan has bucket seats I love it so comfortable it’s like you are sitting inside the seat not on it.
Totally agree there, brother! I actually kind of missed the bench seats too. I learned how to drive on an old Silverado that had bench seats. I’m gonna buy an old one and rebuild it.
They should make that an option for people that like them. But that’s one feature I’m glad is gone🤣💀. I like separation away from the passengers.
Land yachts that are oversized sedans
@@wolfbountygameryt1404 ,
And oversized coupes.
I think you are right, SUV's, Utility vehicles and EV's are a statement that they aren't their parents, look see modern is better. I like smaller coupe cars mostly, I have lost count of the number of times a big SUV etc will come charging up behind me, and hang just feet from behind me - and it's not like I am going slow... I recall a time I was going for a quiet drive in the country and this Ford Ranger came charging up behind me for no reason than to be intimidating. Well I was driving a BMW 135I coupe, on a stage one tune, so had 400hp, I simply pulled away till they started to have to brake and accelerate harder to try and keep up. They turned around and that was that. To this day I have no idea what they were trying to prove, I guess the power of advertising and being just one of the pack is a very strong emotive force. And yes I too have a SUV with 450hp, used mostly for picking and dropping off bigger things I buy. They have their place, but for a single person transport, are you kidding? Rant over... thanks for the video...
I can recall several times people in a smaller car have almost caused a traffic accident too. Remember a Altima driver cutting off all of traffic in the merger lane and cutting me off then giving me a middle finger with his son in the car. I was driving my dad's Suburban at the time.
Brother, I think me and you are clones lol. I just had something like that happen to me in rural NC, which is where I live. I was in my BMW M340i...some dude thought he could intimidate me in a 400+ horsepower car...yeah good luck lol. Hows the BMW holding up? I have recently fallen in love with German cars and its becoming a problem because my wallet wants to get what I cant afford haha. I too have SUV's but they are always parked and I even use a solar trickle charger because I just never drive them lol. Thanks for commenting Kevin. -Brandon
@@baronvonjo1929To be fair, that's an Altima driver. They're poor and stupid.
I get that weekly while driving my kia ceratoGT. I go slower very gently, until they work out i dont give a fuq. Its insured. Fkn hit me. See who gets the fine from the police. See whos insurance gets looted.
Doesnt happen when im in my old nissan pathfinder.
Most modern trucks have cylinder deactivation , direct injection, and even some turbos. All of these are high maintenance failure points , and don't forget all the computerized dash boards and 10 to 12" screens, and 20 cameras
So much truth written here. Imagine if they made a basic truck that didn’t have any of that? They would sell out so fast. -Brandon
Funny thing is, if GM simply hadn’t implemented that ridiculous cylinder deactivation on the V8s, the difference in fuel economy is pretty small. Maybe 1-2 mpg. Not worth the reliability issues the dumb system causes.
A lot of our Japanese and German sedans are built in the US now.
Chicken Tax
@@TwoDollarGarargeWell that's a hell of a lot better than Turkey, huh? But if you are suggesting that cars should be 100% American owned / 100% American made, thats really never been the case. At least for a very long time.
@Electrichead64 nope just the way it works why many foreign vehicles are made in the US from a beurcrats perspective it worked
@@TwoDollarGararge chicken tax doesn’t apply to sedans or SUV’s it’s only pickups.
@DeadAir21 it's also easy make north American cars in north America and it's a poker chip with local politicians and governments.
Yet another great video. It's honestly disappointing just how little the big 3 actually care about their customers. The crash of 2008 and the subsequent industry bailout set in motion a spiral of events that continues to pull the big 3 further and further towards total failure. The industry needs to change, and soon, else it won't be long before we see the day that American cars cease production altogether.
I sincerely hope the government doesn't give them bailout money (if they do go bankrupt) again when they've clearly shown no interest in making their products better.
(Edited to fix a word.)
In fairness, you can't lump Ford in that since they didn't take bailout
They took a different type of bailout actually. They took a DoE loan and just recently paid it back. Parameters in the loan were also very similar to the bailouts GM and Chrysler took. I am honestly shocked this is not known yet. I might actually make a video showing exactly what Ford did...they did some shady stuff...I'll leave it at that and not spoil the video. -Brandon
Totally brother and thank you for the kind words. I am working on the next video as we speak actually. I have a feeling American cars will become irrelevant if things continue down the path we are on. What do you think would be the biggest change they could make to save themselves? -Brandon
The big 3 can’t take all the blame for the demise of sedans it’s still comes down to consumer preferences. Yes Toyota and Honda still sell a ton of sedans but their best selling vehicles are crossovers. Same for all other Asian automakers. Compact crossovers and now the rise of subcompact crossovers will be the standard for this US
The government made bad policy and we all paid the bill.
Yup! And we are still paying for it! Hopefully for not much longer 🫣
@@A-BombEnergy Agree 100%
Striving for better fuel efficiency is bad policy? Technology should always be striving to get better. And once again, if everyone else is working towards the policy but the big 3 actively chose not to that’s on them.
@@DeadAir21The juice is hardly worth the squeeze
Still the same philosophy on so many areas!
I'm 43, and I have never owned an SUV. It's because I like fun. I currently drive a Mazda3 awd hatchback. AWD for the snow, hatchback to haul top soil, stone slabs, mulch, tools, etc. Gets the job done without need to be an SUV, crossover, or truck, and can out corner your common soccer mom or tailgating RAM truck, while still get 35mpg on the highway...if I want to drive like an old granny. Been averaging low 20s on a tank.
Dang nice brother! You don't see those Mazda 3 Hatchbacks anymore! Those are amazing and I always compliment anyone I see who has one. And yeah, people really underestimate the room and sheer value of a hatchback and wagon. I really wish wagons and hatchbacks could make a comeback. How many miles are you cranking on your ride? -Brandon
And do you guys actually believe that the big 3 care at all? Chrysler is lucky enough to be bought by stellantis. GM is nearly dead in the water, and Ford is building it's own SUV market.
These 3 have been completely lost since the mid-late 90's, yet to achieve the quality and reliability standards of the japanese brands.
I don't think anyone thinks they care...but in time they will I think. Especially when more people start seeing videos like these and see the disaster taking place. Idk, what do you think? You are a subscriber so you probably got some great ideas and I would love to hear what you think. And yeah, totally agree with your timeline when they got lost. Its entertaining to think they can't build a quality car, so they are like "yeah lets build an EV." haha okay, good luck Mary. -Brandon
The big tree are going down and I don’t care. If nobody makes the type of car that I can afford, I will go back to a foreign car like I did in the 80’s. The big three can keep their SUVs and poor quality. I quit them in the 80’s due to quality and will go back to foreign cars.
"GM is nearly dead in the water" where you got this concept, dude?! Hahahahaha
they are surviving off pickup trucks and SUVs. believe or not alot of dudes will buy a shitty ram or silverado just cus they dont want a ford. and the escalade is doing better than ever.
I refuse to buy a suv. There're more dangerous to the driver and other drivers and not any more practical and defiantly not more fuel efficient, faster or stable
Oh yeah brother, totally get this point of view. Only SUV I love that's worth anything are my Wranglers. But those serve a different purpose. My 3 sedans I own are way more fun to me anyways. What sedans do you like? -Brandon
@A-BombEnergy Personally the only suv i would consider buying is a crosstreck, i like the 2 door wranglers but eh.. i haven't heard great things from them. I like the mazda 3's and the new k5's personally i don't like sub 2 liter engines cause its most likely a disaster waiting to happen
@@GoldRaven-oe4by I mean Crosstrek is like a subcompact crossover, I would say it's much closer to a car than suv. It's a tall Impreza
I would agree when we refer SUV as Chevy Suburban, Tahoe, Ford Expedition, etc. But, calling a Chevy trax, Honda HRV/CRV, Ford Escape an SUV is being Biased. Today's compact CUV is more fuel efficient than a early 2000s sedan. Or at worst, very similar mpg. Those CUV are far more practical, comfortable and being higher off the ground is a BIG plus during winter months. That's why they sell well. Otherwise, you're right. Only arrogant . cocky and bad attitude guys buy pickups as daily drivers.
Unfortunately these days, that requires you to now buy Honda or Toyota (or a luxury marque). (Nissan is available but that's with a CVT.) There are some crossovers (or unibodies) with good fuel mileage as a car (if you can get one)...like the Ford Maverick.
Having owned and worked on numerous cars from around the world.
The best for me so far is the crown Vic police interceptor 4.6 v8. Parts are less expensive and always accessible compared to the Toyotas and super easy to work on when needed. Still have an 08 CVPI as a daily 183k miles with no issues and never had any other. Engine is smooth and transmission isn’t slipping even though the transmission is know as the CVPIs failing.
Of course it’s how you take care of them that matters too
Glad to hear more people have had good experiences with the CVPI. Pretty rad you drive that as a daily. In my area, people get upset when people drive cars that look like cop cars hahaha. But hey, if that joker is working for you, more power to ya brother.
I bet one of the biggest reasons it’s lasting so long is because you take care of the car better than most people take care of themselves. Don’t give them too much credit, brother. Thanks for commenting and I hope you have a great Sunday. -Brandon
Funny people don't think of Tesla as an American brand.
@@scepticalbeliever It's a POS regardless.
Tesla was Serbian by the way
They think of Tesla as the annoying little brother that no one wants to play with.
@@TheBigExclusive Really? Plenty of them where I live
8 out of 10 ev buyers Ive help find financing regret buying an ev and want to get back to an ice vehicle.
@@prawnshop4573 we're on our third and no one else I know regrets it. however I acknowledge it's not fit for every situation
Well, Toyota started slipping a long time ago. Just off the top of my head: There's the 2AZ and the 2AR massive oil burning issues. One due to low tension piston rings, and the other from eventual cyl wall scoring. The 2AZ also had problems with the head bolts pulling out of the block until 2005. If you avoided all that with the 2AZ then be prepared for a cloud of smoke up on start up, since the valve stem seals commonly go out as well. Then there's the 2012 to 2014 Camry torque converter shudder, leaving owners with a huge bill if it wasn't caught during the warranty period. And then the first few years during which the 2GR was made which had massive timing chain cover leaks requiring engine-out procedures to fix. Also, for many years, Toyota and Lexus interiors melting and becoming sticky. Only the uneducated think that Toyotas are an automatic fail-safe buy.
Absolutely, Toyota has had some major major issues and they are beginning to slip even more now with their tundra issues. Metal shavings left over from production…that’s really bad. I wouldn’t say it’s uneducated people that think that, that’s kind of rough man. I think it’s because people take a generalized approach and look at the data as a whole. If I gave you the option of 1 car for the rest of your life, most people would pick a Toyota or Honda. I certainly would and I don’t like Asian cars and will probably never own one. But in the grand scheme? They make better than most. But you are correct in the sentiment that they aren’t perfect. Anyone who thinks that is smoking some good stuff lol. -Brandon
It’s not just the American 3 that are killing the sedan it’s the American car market in general. Compact crossovers have replaced the midsize sedan to the point that in a few years the Camry and Accord will be the only two left. Compact sedans still sell a healthy amount of units but now subcompact crossovers are beginning to take more market share as they now are growing in size. Americans will always prefer crossovers. Unlike in other countries where space it at a premium, we build are cites around accommodating bigger vehicles.
Solid points here brother. I certainly hope that they don't get rid of sedans in total because fuel economy has gotten so good with them at this point. My Jetta gets 40mpg+ and my BMW M340i gets 30mpg+. I can't get behind some of the reasons "experts" claim but I do believe sedans will make a resurgence back in the market and companies who still make them are going to clean up the market. Could be wrong though. What do you think? -Brandon
I have a 2014 Ford fusion se,with luxury packages,it has now 193274 miles on it,it does not use oil,the 2.0 Ecoboost engine is quite smooth and powerful, very linear acceleration,. Note here, my 2.0 liter Ecoboost is the spanish engine,vep engine, this engine it known to be better made than the same 2.0 Cleveland engine, the vep engine is also installed in a land Rover and some Volvo's. The interior layout it perfect, everything falls to hand easy, steering wheel cruise control and radio and other features, perfectly placed. The styling outside is very nice , I have installed some adjustable coil overs and adjustable damoners on the car, I did not "slam" it to the ground,only lowered it about 25 mm, makes the car look much nicer,and aggressive. No problems with the brakes or transmission at all. I work a a classic Italian car technician, so I take very good cars of my cars, they should bring to the states the new fusion they sell in china, it is very nice,they would sell well here
Also the interior quality is very nice
I have the same car engine combo.
Has been a dream for five years. Only had to replace rubber and brakes.
Early oil changes and other lubricant based maintenance aside.
She even starts for me when I forget to plug her in and we drop to 40 below in January.
Ford's last proper car. I know they have to be decent because the local cab company has got a bunch of them over the years replacing their old impalas.
I have the 2.7 ecoboost in my F-150 that engine has proven to be reliable. I also take good care of my vehicles and keep the oil changed every 5k. I think it comes down to people not doing their maintenance. A simple oil change can be the difference between an engine going past 200,000 miles or dying prematurely.
Brother, I am really happy to hear that you like your car a lot. I hope it continues to serve you well and it lasts for a long time. In America, it seems that we get a lot of the worst sedan models that Ford has to offer. For some reason, they seem to do better in Europe and I am not talking about sales either but reliability. Thanks for sharing this with us, I great appreciate it. -Brandon
People seriously underestimate the power of an oil change lol...its how I got my 2.7 Dodge charger past 200,000 miles. -Brandon
If SUV and truck have extra tax or tax per weight, hatchback will skyrocket.
You know I was going to bring that up in the video actually...I probably should have. But what happens when CAFE standards change and SUV's aren't cool to produce anymore...ANYTHING can happen. People haven't learned that yet these past few years lol 😂 What do you think brother? -Brandon
We should take a page from Japan’s book and tax off displacement and weight
Y’all younger kids are some spoiled brats if driving any car would make your skin crawl cause it’s not cool looking. Who cares? A car is a car. You can drive your parents old minivan or walk, the choice is yours
Haha if I had to, I would drive what my parents drove. But good thing is that I am an adult and make my own money and get to buy what I want! Wild stuff, I know lol. But your overall message, I get it and agree somewhat with it. -Brandon
Henry Ford is spinning in his grave at the stupidity of his once Great Automobile Manufacturer that Built Quality Vehicles at the Best Price in the Entire Industry for over a Hundred Years.
ABSOLUTELY brother, I am reading a book right now on his business model and I simply cannot believe where the industry is right now. It makes me really sad because Ford was designed to be the company that made AFFORDABLE cars that everyone could purchase. Now? Omg they cost more than Asian brands. Holy cow. What are your thoughts? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy Just Glad my 88 Town Car and 87 T-Bird with 5.0 EFI Engines have been Trouble Free since new and being garage kept are in mint condition as well.
As Pink Floyd sang: "Money, it's a gas." That is a HUGE reason why the SUV and the light truck are marketed so often. And honestly, I don't blame them.... but I CAN blame them for not getting in trouble with the government for making it so that the SUV which don't need to meet as many safety standards as, well, the sedan or coupé. Because they used to make the SUV body for old Broncos and Trailblazers. And those at least were modest compared to nowadays, and the Coupés, Wagons, and Sedans were the goods. And a minor part to this major problem, was that both where about equally priced so if you did live in a city, you could choose a choice of the truck for work, of the car for the average commuter. But when the only production coupe left is the mustang, then I start to think that maybe we should have the option to get sedans and coupés from around the world. And a lot of this information came from another video like this one. But this is another great video and will watch it again. (Also, I passed my written drivers test and officially got my permit.)
Oh Pink Floyd, what a legend. Now I am going to listen to him while I respond to comments. I honestly don't blame them either but I do blame them for creating and fostering the environment of creating horrible sedans. AND YES, I totally agree with you on allowing foreign sedans to come in! I go to Europe frequently for work and pleasure and I always enjoy driving their sedans WAY more than ours. Especially their wagons... And CONGRATS on passing your drivers test and getting your permit, thats a big step in the journey to being a car enthusiast! -Brandon
If GM continued to make the 3800 (dates back to 1962 which started out at the Fireball V6 which was derivative of the 215 aluminum V8) and beefed up the transmission substantially, wouldn’t be many complaints since it was one of the most reliable engines they ever made, but unfortunately had to be discontinued due to emissions regulations..
Thats sad to hear. While I recognize I am not an engineer, what I don't understand is how they can't apply the same concepts from previous engines that did well and implant those same concepts in new models. So many other brands do this, why is it American brands always want to reinvent the wheel? -Brandon
Yeah, the 3800 was a great motor. The problem is that the cars it went into were not built well at all and had a lot of little things go wrong with them. Hondas and Toyotas of the same vintage on the other hand are probably the best sedans ever made. I want to like American cars, but honestly it's embarrassing how bad they are.
@@GixxerRider1991 I think all vehicles these days regardless of manufacturer are just plain junk, even the Japanese don’t make cars like they once did. Despite on how “newer is better” according to people who don’t know any better, the 2020’s will probably be one of the worst decades for vehicles in terms of reliability, some aren’t even making it to 100,000 miles without major issues. They put lower tension piston rings in to reduce friction, but that’s the equivalent of putting in worn ones from a junkyard engine, essentially has 200,000+ miles of wear even if it’s new.
Funny enough we'd have very cheap cars , like starting at 10k, very fuel efficient and reliable if we let Chinese brands into the market.
This would force American brands to compete or die, the beauty of the free market.
Timing chain goes bye-bye really fast on the 3800 (at least in early 2000s models)
The last of the wagons now is the subaru outback... My fiance bought one and its been a great car for us. I have a 2012 honda accord. Theres something more intimate about driving the sedan. You feel like youre a part of the road as opposed to being a passenger in the vehicle.
and the germans there more of a market in europe including ford europe but Audi Mercedes and BMW all sell wagons in low volumes and not cheap
Dude your last sentence really resonated with me. I have 3 sedans and 3 SUV's and the feeling driving those cars are exactly what you described. I hope your cars continue to serve you well and you have no problems with them. Thanks for commenting Spencer, have a great Sunday my friend. -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy you're welcome! Glad the comment resonated so much. I wish you the best too 😁
Expensive Cars = Expensive Parts = Expensive Maintenance = Expensive service = More $$$
This is a perfect algorithm for the current trajectory of the car market. Do you think this was done on purpose? Personally, I think so the more and more I study it. Would love to hear your thoughts my friend. -Brandon
That’s why I’ll keep my 2000 Pontiac Grand Am SE until it dies
I had one of those. Was a good car but at 170k miles, was starting to need a considerable amount of work and by then the car was literally worthless. Not many left on the road anymore.
That’s a really cool car brother! How many miles are you cranking right now? How are the oil changes going? I’ve heard you have to change it more frequently on those? -Brandon
If you wanna make a bad situation worse, hire an American automotive engineer and an American CEO. That combination could mess up a one-man parade.
Absolutely brother and to make it even worse, hire a CEO that isn’t a car enthusiast and has no business acumen. Which seems to be all of the American makers right now. What brand do you recommend to folks generally? -Brandon
Japanese - best cars for mpg/longevity
European - fun driving/luxury cars
American - family hauling and truck stuff…
What about Korean car brands like Hyundai?
@@TheBigExclusive newer hyundais are quite reliable and are cheaper cars that offer a lot of features and safety
@@TheBigExclusive full of gimmicks for a cheaper price with questionable reliability… Kia/hyundai been on a roll lately though
Also japanese - family hauling and truck stuff... but better
Except all of them have fun cars to drive as well.
You can sell an old person a young person’s car, but you can’t sell a young person an old person’s car.
Ever heard of hippies?
What’s an old persons car to you.
🤔I’m guessing you suck at sales😂
Idk i see plenty of young people my age driving car from the 70,80,90s
24yrs old never owned a car newer than 2007
Old people tend to treat their cars right compared to younger people who max them out
What I find funny is that GM meant to kill the malibu about 3ish years ago but during the pandemic it was the 3rd best selling sedan so they kept it around for longer. Theres clearly a market for sedans, the big 3 just cant design good ones anymore
It’s pretty wild how commenters like you only prove the point in the video more. I appreciate that brother. I didn’t know they wanted to do that, so I appreciate that data point. That’s why I’m not entirely sure I trust the demand charts they show. We did a poll here on the channel and while not scientific, more people drive and want sedans than SUVs. We might be onto something here…time to follow the white rabbit. -Brandon
@ottovonbismarck7094 Not true. Buick Lacrosse and Chevrolet Impala. Both decent cars. Ford Taurus was not bad either. They all needed a fresh look with some fine tuning. SUV's won.
@@user-mf5to8mb3h i mean big sedans the big three can do good, chargers for example can be good cars. Funnily enough the best engines in them are the engines used in pickup trucks too
Not sure if you remember but I left a comment about my old 2012 Chevy Cruze on one of your past videos and man this video felt good to watch haha. The craziest part was that even when I took that thing to GM dealership they seemed completely confused about why it was having so many issues. My dad was even suspecting at the time that I got sold a rebuilt car with a scrubbed carfax. The more time passes the more I look back at that thing and laugh
Yes sir, I do remember. Your avatar reminded me of it actually. I am really glad you enjoyed the video brother, my aim is ensure its the best type of content on the internet pertaining to critical thinking, automotive content, and heck even a little history. GM dealerships are probably one of the worst, its really sad because it doesn't have to be that way. If they just did the right thing and built the right cars, they would be the best in the industry. Sad part is they have the money and talent to do it! You can scrub a carfax? I don't hold much stock in carfax but dang I didn't know you could scrub it! Wow! Thanks for commenting brother and continuing to watch the content. More is being editing right now :) -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy Super excited. As a suggestion, since you brought up CAFE in this video I'd love to see a video/videos on other government legislations in the USA car market that had a huge impact on the industry. Stuff like the chicken tax and the restrictions on direct to consumer sales.
Keep up the great work man!
Fords biggest problem is Jim Farley being in charge. I’m a Ford guy but I hate his business strategy.
This guy basically came in an said “I’m going to restore Ford to major profitability” by cutting all the vehicles that consumers aren’t buying. According to him people aren’t interested in sedans anymore so they will be buying crossovers and trucks instead.
What he really decided is that Ford didn’t make enough of a profit margin on these cars and that by not offering them the customers would just “upgrade” to a bronco sport or maverick. Which is really f@cking stupid because people liked the sedans/hatches because they were inexpensive and practical.
Of course this is also the genius that decided to go full send on the electric vehicle production with the Mach-E (still not a mustang BTW) and the Lightning.
All this fool did is drive his customers into the hands of Japanese companies like Honda and Toyota.
Ford still makes a few great legacy vehicles but they will never regain their reputation as the great old American car company with this clown in control. Get him out.
Ryan, sorry for the late response, catching up on comments because you guys deserve a response. I have recently read some articles about Farley and I wouldn't be surprised if he lasts any longer. Apparently, there is rumblings in the board about his leadership style and the direction he is taking the company. Whats funny about him cutting sedans is that he recently stated they are looking at bringing them back! Like how much money did that transition alone cost Ford?
And I totally agree with you on the Mustang and Lightning. I did a video on Ford and I am releasing another video on Ford tomorrow and brother, let me say...Ford has seriously fallen and it breaks my heart because they used to be so amazing.
Hope to see you in future comments Ryan, I truly appreciate your comments and thoughts. -Brandon
Title correction: Failure of (American) SEDANS
Haha yeah brother I think you are right on that. Multiple people have suggested that to me as well. Where were you when I was writing and researching for this video! 🤣 next time though right? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy you can change the title after the fact yk
I totally agree with everything here. I personally drive a Buick Lucerne, it’s been a great car but it is definitely starting to show its age. I will tell you for sure that my next vehicle is going to be non American, that’s because most foreign brands actually care. I can get a brand new Camry for 30-40k with the features I want while Ford is trying to scam people with their 100k in options F150 King Ranch’s with a bunch of options that are just there to drive the price up. The very idea that cars don’t sell is, in my opinion, a fallacy. They do sell, they just don’t sell cars THEY make because as of late, they can’t make anything that can go past 100k miles without breaking.
It completely shocks me that people still waste their money on new Chevys or Fords when they could put they same amount into a Toyota or Honda and get better quality, better support (current, up to date NAV updates), and better reliability. I wish the big 3 would stop chasing the money and start chasing what people really want.
Agreed 100%
What about American cars from the 50s, 60s, and early 70s?
Billie, this comment made me smile because I can tell you are a critical thinker! When that Ford rep said sedans don't sell, I laughed because I was thinking in my head.... no no your sedans don't sell lol because they are terrible. I will never buy an American car again unless I have no other choice for my business or if its like a Ford GT or something haha.
I literally agree with everything your comment brother. Thanks for posting and sharing your thoughts. More people like us need to spread the message. 🫡 -Brandon
As an immigrant, ive never understood why people buy cars they can't afford/do car payments instead of buying a car in full/ cars they can afford
I'd probably never in my life do car payments doesn't mean I'd just drive any car
@@That2jguyHere's the thing about immigrants. The average immigrant is smarter and harder working than the average native born, because immigration itself is a tough decision. Lazy and stupid people don't chase opportunities.
Don't let people's stupidity bother you.
it's a quality of life thing; but yeah i wouldn't buy a car i couldn't afford to pay down
It’s because they try to impress other people and other people don’t care. Many rich people drive modest cars. They know a car is a horrible investment and don’t waste money on them.
A lot of people get too comfortable and lifestyle in Western nations has a problem with debt. I get in some situations why it makes sense to get a loan for a car (business maybe) but most people shouldn't be doing it. Appreciate the response brother. Where did you immigrate from? -Brandon
American auto manufacturers sold USA out. Left the market open for grabs to foreign manufacturers.
You are totally right, brother. GM is probably the worst for example the Buick encore is made in China and they pay the tariff on them every time they import them. Do you think there is any hope for them? -Brandon.
Quite sad actually.
I'm a fan of north American cars, however I don't see reasons to buy one.
Aiden, totally agreed brother. I want to support them but blind loyalty is ridiculous and i can't afford that. I am switching to foreign brands as time progresses. They have lost me forever. -Brandon
You completely missed the propaganda by the IIHS who constantly tells people they need a large vehicle to be safe. SUVs cost more to insure, making more profits for the insurance companies that fund the IIHS.
Well where were you 30 days ago when I wrote the script! But seriously, it’s a really good point and I kind of address it in the response video to this one. If you ever want to help influence content that gets pumped out on this channel, we hold bi weekly polls and it helps steer where certain pieces of content are going. I also leave hints to what the next piece will be in the response videos and polls. Thanks for sharing the knowledge brother, I hope to see you in the future because it sounds like you know a ton about the industry and we need people like that. -Brandon 🫡
Video missed one point. Politicians want to reduce number of cars on roads and it's poorer people that suffer from increased taxes and fees on them. They are the target market for economy class sedans and they can't afford new ones so they drive used cars longer. Look up average age of cars on roads. It's increasing every year .
On other end those who can afford new vehicles will go for larger suv,not sedans . It's a status thing.
I hear you...I have to know my operational environment there brother. Best I can do is imply certain things. Otherwise...you would have never seen this video....much love brother. -Brandon
I drive a 13-year-old Ford Focus hatchback. It's a great sedan. However, I am among the 3% of Focus drivers who prefer a manual transmission (I like to be part of the machine). It's versatile - I can throw my bike in the back. Compare many consumer products (not just vehicles) that have changed over the last few decades. The drive for convenience is not only the result of selling. It is also the result of demand. Take restaurant sales over the last 20 years for example.
Mark, you bring up some solid points here and I too prefer a manual transmission. It’s sad that so many manuals are going away too. I think eventually we’re gonna see a shift back in the market where people want to be part of the car and not worry so much about convenience. But who knows I could be wrong. Thanks for commenting and have a great Sunday. -Brandon
Imagine if we as humans invented sedans that had fully openable boots and the practicality of a wagon or suv, but while keeping the sedan shape, like with an Audi A5 Sportback, VW Arteon, Skoda Octavia, Skoda Superb..oh wait, we f... do and car makers still mainly keep making the unusable tiny trunk sedans and then wonder why no one buys them anymore.
Haha brother you are so right. You live in Europe I’m guessing so you have wagons there. We don’t have them here unfortunately and it’s really sad. Wagons are almost impossible to get here…I wish I lived in Europe sometimes. -Brandon
yeah but they are ugly. the a5 and model s are the only ones that actually look like sedans. the rest just look deformed. for example the 4 series gran coupe from BMW is ugly compared to the 3 series. I love sedans and will exchange the trunk space for passenger head room.
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13that’s because the 4 series gran coupe is a coupe its not designed to be a larger car its kind of retrofitted. But the Skoda superb is a great option
@@arnarmagnusson8201 neither is the a5. the a5/s5 was supposed to be the coupe version of the a4/s4 just like how 4 series is the coupe version of 3 series. but they made it into a sportback and bmw made the gran coupe. but audi pulled off the retrofit well and bmw just didnt. but overall the sedans are better and lighter. the s4 and 3 series are better than s5 sportback and 4 series gran coupe.
currently running with a 2014 chevy cruze 1.4L, to be honest ive had the car for a little over 8 months. So far ive replaced the turbo, the oil cooler, the turbo lines, the coolant expansion tank, the valve cover, ive done the cruzekits 3.4 pcv valve fix kit. Next up is the water pump, Ive been chasing down issues with this car and even now it still has a check engine light. GM legend.
Deven, I am really sorry to hear you are having such issues with the vehicle. I really hope after all the repairs are complete it runs better for you. You don't deserve that level of quality. If you don't mind me asking, why have you held onto it? I am not saying you should get rid of it either. I have a 2.7 Charger and it had a wild amount of issues, I fixed them and it still runs now...with over 200k miles. -Brandon
Man, this video was very informative! You did awesome!
Tyler, thanks my friend. I am glad you enjoyed it. There are more to come, working on the next video as we speak! -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy your welcome dude. I can't wait to see what car brand you will talk about next, but don't feel rushed, take your time man!
These videos are so high quality and I hope you keep these up, I turned on notifications so I can watch every one as soon as they come out. Your views should skyrocket if you keep this up!
Hey brother thanks for such kind words, I have zero intention of stopping these videos. I really enjoy making great content for you guys. I don’t know a single channel who does it like this. Thanks for turning on notifications, next video will be the vlog response to this video. We do those after every film to address common comments and maybe inject some interesting drama haha. Look forward to speaking with you more my friend. -Brandon
The check engine light -- the bane of all owners of American made cars.
Maybe they should call it the American engine light hahaha? -Brandon
I think all new GM cars come straight from the factory with the check engine light on.
Chrysler waiting for lee iacocca to rise from the grave to rescue the company a third time
Dude I can’t even imagine the revival of Chrysler at this point…it’s really sad to be honest because of the history of the brand. If they just focused on make reliable and durable vehicles, that could put them on the path to success. Oh well though…Lee, we need ya buddy. -Brandon
I love how people clown on German cars for being unreliable, when American brands can’t seem to get anything right nowadays. I honestly hope all these companies can pull themselves together, but it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen as of now.
that is because American's don't like doing maintenance that cost money. You don't to the maintenance cycles a german car will be a parts car by 130k I buy these very clunker german heaps there savable but that cost money.
Well German cars are nothing but money pits when they break, don't believe me then go watch Scotty Kilmer and he'll tell you the real truth about European cars ingeneral.
@@TwoDollarGararge for some cars it's lack of maintenance but on others theres nothing you can do but avioid them
@@TwoDollarGararge that’s true. My current bmw the owner did most maintenance besides oil changes. Engine spun a bearing and completely destroyed itself. My mechanic picked it up for cheap and put an engine with 60k miles on it. I’ve treated it much better although I drive it pretty hard. My dad had a 5 series when I was younger and got it to 400k miles. I guess most people really don’t like maintenance, which is probably why evs are appealing
@@caboose6411 and leasing cars
I’ve owned a 96 Geo Tracker, an 07 Impala LTZ, a 95 Lexus SC400, an 07 Impreza WRX, and now I drive a 2023 Hyundai Santa Cruz. The best vehicle I’ve ever owned was my Subaru. It wasn’t cheap to repair but I loved driving that car every time I started it. The most fun car I had was the Lexus SC400. Those came with a 4L v8 I think it was a 1UZ but I might be wrong. The Lexus was a pain to repair and cost as much to fill up as an SUV. I change oil in my cars every 3000 miles and I rotate the tires every time. Every vehicle I have owned gets tuned every 30k miles I drive them. The Chevy had the most problems out of all of the vehicles I’ve owned. Got it at 8k miles, drove it to 130k and replaced the transmission twice. The Geo was also unreliable, but that car was easy to work on.
Sean, I am glad you have had some good experiences with your cars. That Lexus is super sweeeeet too. I am sorry to hear about the issues you had with the Chevy though, I know the game of replacing transmissions in a car. My Charger had its transmission replaced at 50k. Blew my mind because I babied that thing. Geo's were super cool though, I will give them that. I have actually been on the lookout for a Geo Tracker...nostalgia gets me every time lol. -Brandon
I love my 21 Camry and love sedans! I can’t fathom having to drive a mommy mobile CUV or SUV 🤧
Brother, I am glad you are happy with your camry. Those are great cars. Are you saying you don't want a Jeep Wrangler with rows of ducks on the dashboard that you bought off amazon lol! SUV's have really taken a weird turn in automotive history lol. -Brandon
American brands need to look at what made them awesome and go back to that. I swear, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at some of their corporate offices.
Totally brother, it would be very enlightening. I bet they talk about cutting corners left and right…and they are all accountants. Who’s the best car company you think? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy If it were up to me, Dodge's EV would be totally different.
Ok I love ya bud but that thumbnail is funny with the ford logo going inside the Chrysler logo, but it’s almost too fitting to change 😂
Haha I saw it and I was gonna correct it but then I thought to myself “this is going to make people mad. And it might drive people to click on this video. Let’s do it.” Plus, I’m terrible at making thumbnails 😂 I have literally offered to pay people to do them for me and I’m shocked how much they want 😂😂 but yes, it’s almost too perfect. Side note, I’ve read that YT creators aren’t technically allowed to use other companies logos in thumbnails… ooops 😂 -Brandon
Sedans make more sense over crossovers on so many levels. Unless you need the room that a SUV provides or some sort of off road capability, buying a sedan makes more sense. My wife bought a Plymouth Sundance back in the 1980s which was a total nightmare so that was the last American vehicle that we ever bought. I just bought a 2025 Toyota Camry LE and my wife has a 2013 Camry LE. We are both very happy with our cars.
I think it always just depends on the person and what they want. I am like you, a sedan makes a heck of a lot of sense to me and my family. While I own an SUV I almost never drive it, burns so much extra fuel to do the same thing my sedans do. And yeah...American sedans are close to some of the worst with a few exceptions. Glad you guys got Toyotas...ironically, they are going to be the subject of my next documentary. Would love to hear your opinion on that when it releases since you are what I would consider a devout Toyota guy (nothing wrong with that either btw).
Thanks for commenting my friend. -Brandon
I have a personal theory the rise of large portions of normal non car person leasing is not only a choice of convenience but of fear. between turbo's 250 miles of messed up cooling by by turbo, direct injection, infotainment I sell them on Ebay I see that first hand, and all the other complex crap to meet emissions and customer expectation if someone is stuck in a car to live they don't want to be stuck in a cheap penalty box. This leads to just leasing and stuff like the "toyota tax" if you ever go on marketplace or why a 150k 99 camry is still $6,000 fear of thing's breaking and costing $2,500 plus.
You might be right on this theory brother or at minimum there is some serious truth to it in certain applications. How is the infotainment business going for you? I would imagine its doing well? -Brandon
Casual car guy here, love the video.
The editing, imagery, script, audio all seem highly professional. That conclusion was excellent and memorable.
Hey brother thank you for the kind words. I work on these to give you the best possible product. I am just a casual car guy as well sharing my knowledge and research capabilities. Thanks for commenting fellow car enthusiasts. -Brandon
I just subbed 10 minutes ago and here I find a new video, hallelujah.
Hey brother thanks for the sub! Videos will keep coming and if you ever have any suggestions or what not, let me know my friend. -Brandon
@A-BombEnergy What about a video about Chrysler/Dodge reliability? Or just the companies in general.
The reason why sedans are less popular today(at least in my country 🇨🇱❤) is that sedans prices skyrocketted, and now the difference between a sedan and a SUV or a pickup truck is so small, like, sometimes is just a $1000, and my country has all weather seassons so people buy the more versatile car.
I still love sedans
Totally understand that brother, it’s partially the same reasons here too. The Malibu and Trax used to be about a $1000 difference and in the used segment it’s even worse. Sometimes SUVs are way cheaper. You have a beautiful country my friend. I hope to visit one day. Assuming you drive an SUV as well?
I love sedans too.
-Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy i drive my dads FJ cruiser some times when i'm home, but most times i drive his 98 VW bug :P
FJ cruisers are awesome brother, it's amazing how much they go for on price right now. That is really cool though, you don't see those on the road anymore. I'm slightly biased though because I am obsessed with German engineering. -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy yeeah, his has almost 500k Km (like 300k ish miles and still runs like a clock).
Only big thing to go out in its entire life, is the AC compressor, and not even the compressor, the clutch is out, but it was waaay cheaper to import a new one than replacing the clutch, stealership wanted like 2 grand JUST for the clutch and the belt was another grand on itself.
Sad thing is parts are scares this days
Dude thats really impressive. I hope you get another 500k out of it. Keep us updated with it, I love hearing these kinds of high km stories. Always a pleasure my friend. -Brandon
It's depressing, I fell victim to the GM AFM system. Cost me $12k to repair because it happened 3 month out of warranty.
When I was a kid GM pickups at least were phenomenal. Nowadays an 04 silverado is desirable because even 20 years old ya still expect them to get 200k-300k miles.
Driving a 21 5.0 F150 now. Wish me luck lol.
Speaking of which I thought about getting a new 2024 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it but since it has cylinder deactivation (and I don't want to deal with the turbo problems on these Ecoboost engines) I decided to get a 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it, best truck I ever had and best of all no cylinder deactivation.
@@CJColvin I hear ya, where I live I only have 3 local dealer options, Chevy, Dodge, and Ford. Even the towns around me have the same options. Be a bit of a hike for me to access other brands. And for us at least one of our vehicles needs to be a pickup. I was so close to getting a toyota and making the long hike to the cities. But now they're twin turbo V6's. Next time I buy a pickup I'm just getting a 1 ton. Cheaper tabs where I live than a 1/2 ton sorta offsets fuel economy. Depending on brand no cylinder deativation. And I'd be just fine with a base model. I need a truck to throw rocks and lumber in, tow my little tractor, boat and a camper and get projects done. My F150 first year I drove it through the woods and scratched her up doing work. Ripped that bandaid off right away. At 60k miles she's doing alright though. Based off my experience with Ram, Chevy and Ford's I've had the least issues with Fords 1/2 ton V8. If they weren't all rust buckets I'd just go used. Living in the rust belt sucks. Folks want $15k+ for a clean moderately low mileage 20yr old beater.
Man brother I am sorry to hear you’ve had issues like that, it really frustrates me that I have heard this story so much and yet GM is still destroying their beat engine and pushing their customers away.
As for your F150, I wish you the best luck and since you live in the rust belt, I’m sure the underbody will do fine. I believe you have a lot more aluminum. Good luck my friend. -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy Appreciate it, and it is what it is. This day and age there's no place for brand loyalty. I'll buy whatever he best option is at any given time.
And I've heard a lot of the same issues for other folks too. The worst being my coworker's new Chevy 1500 blowing up with less than 9k miles due to lifter failure. Mine happened at 86k at least.
Hopefully truck market dies off quite a bit and we can start getting working trucks again instead of luxury tubs. To many pavement princess trucks created a customer base that wanted more features.
Gosh that’s so insane for those vehicles to give out so early. It’s boarder line criminal imo. -Brandon
We as the people need to stop buying big suvs crossovers and pickups we need to stop buying them and start buying smaller hatchbacks or sedans say no to suvs crossovers and pickups.
Todd, I totally agree with the sentiment, brother. I get that people need bigger cars and I say go for it if you need it. I have a wild theory though and you let me know what you think, but what will happen if the CAFE standards change that then target SUVs and trucks? Wouldn’t that be the perfect storm for forced EV? Just a thought. -Brandon
i will say this, i am not loyal to chevy, but i am loyal to my chevy... from 30 years ago.
imma be honest, im loyal to old cars. anything from before 2008, but pre 93 is where its at
Michael, I totally understand that sentiment. I am the exact same way with Jeep. I will never buy a new Jeep EVER. The 2018 JL is the last model for me and its not even really a TRUE Jeep. So I am right there with you my friend. Do you ever plan on having a new car again? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy well I'm 19 and started off with the old stuff, so it won't be again, if I get a new car, post 2005 seems to be the year, I'll get a Hyundai just course I'm a technician there and would still be able to work on it myself
as someone who group in the south. ive never owned an older chevy but they are tanks and very repairable. which is the key. you can keep dropping new motors in it until the frame gives out.
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 don't even have to put in the same motor, gunna look at replacing the 4.3 with a 5.7 and should hook right up
@@michaelsaine yep the 4.3 is just a 350/5.7 LT1 with two cylinders chopped off lol it will bolt right up for sure. or you can build the 4.3 and turbo it. it will be like the GMC Syclone and Typhoon
I drive a sedan. BMW i4 and a BMW i7. I have little to no interest in SUV's. I have to say; this is one of the best documentaries I've watched. Well spoken, informative, beautifully laid out. I'm sure I could watch you talk about flat water. Immediately liked, shared, and subscribed.
Hello fellow BMW owner! Your BMWs are really awesome by the way. How are you liking the i7? I have an M340i and good lord...its the best vehicle I have ever driven and so darn practical too. I can throw the car seat in the back and also track the car. Amazing. Thank you for the kind words and subscription, my friend. I'm really trying my best to put out the best quality content for you guys for no charge. I really hope you enjoy the other documentary films that I have on here, I had a lot of fun making them. The next one is going to be on Toyota and how they are essentially falling as a brand. I'm going to try to have that one out this month.
I look forward to our future conversations brother. You seem like a really cool guy and I love talking to people like you. -Brandon 🫡
@@A-BombEnergy I'm excited you replied, thank you. I'm going back and watching all your videos. The quality is A1. I had a M340i back in 2020 and I loved it. Unfortunately it developed a oil leak early on and BMW Lemon lawed it.
I'm still considering picking up a M440i GC. I absolutely love the i7. I ironically didn't buy it to save gas, I bought it because it has a lower center of gravity, the quiet powertrain is as close to RR as you can get and it has a hefty feel with the added weight. I know that's the opposite of what a BMW is however I drive approximately 300 miles a day. The i7 is a treat to cruise in.
The down side is our charging infrastructure. Electry America is always broken or far and inbetween, it's extremely difficult to find DC fast charging and it's made this whole experience unbearable.
I'm trading both cars for a 740i xdrive and a M440i GC.
Looking forward to your video on Toyota. It was an absolute pleasure meeting you and look forward to speaking soon. - Bernard
Of course brother, its an honor to talk to you guys. I have never met a group of people like this, literally legends you guys are. Sorry to hear about the issues you had with your 340i, I hope that was just a one off because that machine is absolutely incredible. Anything 40i really is imo.
Thats awesome you are so happy with your i7 and that amount of driving you do is incredible. Do you ever get any range anxiety? And the charging infrastructure is joke and I am sorry you are having to put up with it. My friend has a Mach E and sometimes I catch him sleeping in his car while charging because he can't get home. Is the charging infrastructure your main reason for trading them in for the 740i?
Always a pleasure Bernard, feel free to hit me up anytime on social media. I have become personal friends with a lot of people. -Brandon
P.S. Don't rip on me too hard for my lackluster social media profiles haha its my first time 🤣
@@A-BombEnergy The honor and pleasure is mine. The issue was isolated to approximately 1,000 units thankfully. I've had a few 40i models since (740i, X6 xDrive 40i, and a 840i xDrive GC) and they were flawless past 50,000 miles.
I take care of my grandmother (Cook, Administer Her Medicine) daily and I don't live in the same city. I don't want someone from the outside to do it when I can. At least ill know everything is done right and she trust me. She's 98.
I don't get range anxiety in the traditional sense. Mine comes in if i'm home and forget to charge. I have a fear of needing to abruptly leave from a earthquake or rushing to the hospital and having a low charge. Driving, i'm fine. In the beginning, I always had to have 100% charge because it's free. Now I fill up at 10%.
The charging infrastructure is the main reason i'm giving up electric. Aside from the notorious Electrify America issues, i've run into people who cut the line, will unplug your car or cancel your charge if you're at a certain level, I had a woman key my car because I wouldn't stop charging so she could. I never seen a group of adults act a certain way over 30 minutes of free charging. It's not worth it to me.
You do the same, hit me up anytime, about anything. Honor to have you as a friend. My social media is about my cars and my poodle so you're good lol
Too right about youth not wanting the same car their parents had.
My dad had an Acura sedan since I was a kid and he still has it now. I'm in my 20s now and I chose to get a BMW sedan just to be different from my dad.
Even though I took my road test in his Acura, I learned to drive in his Acura, and I used to drive it around when I was younger.
I’m the opposite; I’m just waiting to buy off my folks’ 2010 Sequoia. The thing guzzles gas but it’s been a tank with no major repair bills after all these years (knock on wood) and is still our roadtrip rig across the states.
They’re looking at the new Landcruisers, so I’m just rubbing my hands to take the Sequoia off their hands in exchange for downpayment should they decide to get one 🤣
@@MrOiram46 I wanted to buy his Acura from him but I have realized that he doesn't plan on ever selling it.
He's had it since 2009
Haha yeah man so we are in the same boat then! Welcome aboard brother. My dad even has a Ram, and I wanted a Ram, so I got a Ram Rebel and I just didn't like owning the same car as him. Idk why but I just didn't lol. Ended up selling it and got a new VW. I still have my BMW M340i though and I love that car. What kind of BMW do you have? I have recently made a massive shift to German cars now and I would love to hear your thoughts as a fellow BMW owner. -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy 340i M, wanted reliability and fun.
Was gonna get the M340 but the 340 costs less to insure and I prefer the looks
I have a manual 95 Acura Integra LD 2dr that I bought used in 2001 when I was in my mid 20s with 100k miles. I ran the carp out of that car and even raced it at a few track events. The car now has 276k miles and still running well enough considering it burns oil and has lost some power. But because the car has been such a joy to drive I intend on keeping it and either rebuilding the engine or swapping it for a GSR VTEC engine.
Very well made video, concise and not repetitive. I also appreciate you not shilling some annoying sponsored ad in between.
Thanks my friend, super appreciated 😁😁 I get why people take sponsors, I don’t plan on taking them but I understand why they do it. This video alone took weeks to edit with 8-12 hours a day. But honestly, I love it and I love how much you guys enjoy the content. It brings me joy reading these kinds of comments. I have more videos like this too my friend. Just uploaded one yesterday if you are interested. We have a tight knit community on this channel, would love to have you aboard. -Brandon 🫡
The quality is why I now only buy foreign brand automobiles.
Same brother. I seriously doubt I will ever buy an American car ever again, I just can't put myself through the BS again. People think I am crazy because I buy German cars now but they literally have less problems than any of the American cars I have owned. Plus they are more fun. What brands do you purchase bro? -Brandon
My biggest problem with sedans is that every modern sedan I have driven has trouble not bottoming out when going over speed bumps. Crossovers, SUVs, Trucks, and most 20+ year old sedans do not have that problem.
Mark, what models have you driven that have done that? I think they have lowered a lot of cars because they are trying to save fuel by making it more aerodynamic. What vehicle do you drive now? I just bought a 2024 VW Jetta and it’s been really awesome so far. My M340i though….i am very careful when going over speed bumps. -Brandon
i cry at night knowing that we will never get a good car ever again, just buy something from the 80s-90s and fix it forever. Im also one of those people who have one of those unicorns, it pangs me
My daily is a 2004 Pontiac Grand Am 3.4L V6 fun car to drive. It’s nothing special but dose it ever feel good to drive you feel the road you feel the steering the acceleration the braking the cornering you feel the car. I drove an SUV once and absolutely hated it it felt like I was turning nothing the acceleration sucked there was fake engine noise blind spots everywhere I just don’t understand why everyone likes these things.
I am right there with you brother. We can cry together. That's awesome you have a station wagon though, so hard to find these days in American. In Europe, they are everywhere and I looked at importing one and its insane. I really love the wagons. Thanks for commenting brother, look forward to future conversations with you, even if we are crying. -Brandon
The primal goal of every company is to make money.
If it's an American company, the goal is to make more money, much more money.
As long as they are only interested in the quarterly earnings call, nothing will change.
That’s the old way of running a company because the internet wasn’t around to call people out on bad products. Every successful company now is focusing on solving people’s problems, creating a quality product, and putting the customer first. That’s why I always tell people if you want to own a business, no time has been better than the present. Literally just do the opposite of what legacy companies have done. People are tired of being rinsed. What do you think? Is this counter point wrong? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy Hi Brandon, what you are writing is 100% marketing blah blah. Every company wants to belong to the ones who care about inclusion, sustainability and of course the customer experience. But in reality the CEOs get paid with stocks and stock options. So they profit is still the most important goal. But they don't want to be seen as greedy capitalists.
I totally agree with you with the purpose of any company. They should solve problems and provide services or products which are usefull or necessary and put the customers first. But look at the car industry, everyone wants to sell premium products with a hefty pricetag, or go to McDonald's, they still sell the same unhealthy crap, but want a little fortune for their meals. Yes you are right, there is more pressure by social media, but after all we are still living in a society, where money rules. It amazes me, when I see in the news how much money was donated to Kamala Harris. Everyone seems to think, the more donations she get, the more realistic is it, that she will be the next POTUS. Isn't it crazy? Sorry for my bad English, it's not my first language...
The town car was the birth of the 2 valve 4.6. Every town car sold after 1991 had one. My 2003 Town car Is at 368,000 miles. I am never getting rid of It.
Had a 03 town car, many, many issues at 80K, loits of wind noise piece of ford junk, never again.
WOW! 368,000 miles! Dude that is incredible! How hard has maintenance been on it? I am really impressed by that. I certainly hope I can get hose numbers with my cars. Thanks for sharing that because when I read these types of comments, it for some reason makes my day knowing people are getting good use out of cars. -Brandon
my mom has the 2004 town car with the 4.6. havent checked the clock in a while but its over 230k for sure. still starts every time. gas mileage is the only issue. its the only american car weve had in my family. as my dad is strict honda and toyota only.
I own a 1998 Ford Fiesta, is a Zetec 1.2 liter 4 cylinder, has more than 200k kilometers and never saw a workshop only for inspections still runs, still goes, i think that car is immortal
Matt, sounds like you have a great car there and I’m really happy for you. Key thing to remember is you have a pre-financial crisis car. I recently did a video on Ford (link in description if you are interested) and it seems that since 2008, quality has seriously gone down. Ford has made some solid engines in the past. I’m just really happy you have one of them. Please keep us updated on how she runs. -Brandon
The Toyota Camry and Honda Accord are selling well. The failure was not being competitive by investing in advancements to compete with the leaders. It was easier to bail. I shopped used Fusions, Camrys and Accords for my current commuter car. The Fusion just couldn't match up for the same money. I commute 140 miles a day in my 2018 Camry and pull 40+mpg with 100% reliability. I really wanted to Fusion to be better and sampled a bunch.
It’s kind of weird to me that American manufactures are bailing on sedans. To me that is such a loser and weak minded mentality. They are basically saying making a reliable sedan is too hard so they quit. I recently had a bunch of Ford car salesman hit me up and tell me that people are asking about fusions every day when they come into the dealership. Which doesn’t shock me at all, it wasn’t a horrible car. But it wasn’t an amazing car like your Toyota. And I hear you on the long commute, I too, have a long one. Maybe one day when I release the podcast you can listen to it on your commute. Thanks for commenting brother. -Brandon
I had a 2018 Ford Fusion SE Hybrid and it was a brilliant car. It was built well, drove well, interior quality was good, ride quality was good, it handled well, excellent fuel economy, and surprisingly easy and fairly inexpensive to work on. Even if the hybrid battery needed to be changed, it was easy to replace, as it was located in the trunk under and easily removable shelf. Overall, it was excellent. I sold it to my sister, as she needed a car to get to work, and I had another car, a Subaru WRX hatchback I had owned for quite some time.
Sedans do sell, but the big 3 made an excuse that “nobody wants a sedan.” Nobody wants YOUR sedans. The Corolla, Camry, Civic, Accord, Elantra, Sonata, K5, Forte, Mazda3, and a plethora of European sedans still sell and sell well. I actually blame the Big 3’s failures on the UAW. The cost of demands from the UAW hurt the big 3, and could not keep up with the rapid pace of R&D and quality enhancements of foreign, non-union manufacturers, thus leading to cost cutting and poor quality to maintain profitability. No one wants to say it, but I will. It’s one of many factors, but the common denominator still remains.
Robert, I 100% agree with EVERYTHING in this post and especially your sentiment on the UAW. They have fostered this entitled mentality, sometimes called the c word lol...The big three coupled with UAW is a match made in Hades and thats why nobody wants THEIR sedans. I just bought a VW Jetta for the wife and the salesman and me ended up becoming friends and we text regularly. He told me the sell the heck out of the Jettas. I am not surprised at all by that either! I couldn't imagine buying an American car ever again at this point.
Thanks for commenting Robert, glad to have a fellow thinker like you on the channel. -Brandon
This is why there are folks out there still driving 80s squarebodies, and just replacing the motor, trans, diff and other parts rather than the whole car. As long as the chassis isn't rusted completely (and you can still fix rust) then I don't need a new car that'll be cheaper, weaker and worse than the one I already own.
Isn’t that crazy? I know so many guys who are in that exact situation and they rock and roll with those vehicles. It’s incredible to witness. I know a guy who has 300k miles on his 80s Silverado and he just treats it like utter garbage hahaha and it still runs! Couldn’t do that with modern trucks! 🤣🤣 thanks for commenting Seth 🫡 -Brandon
We are a sedan family and still love our 2016 Ford Fusion SE AWD with the 2.0T. Long ago paid off, still looks and drives/rides great, and no rush to get rid of it. We almost bought a 2020 Titanium but didn't like the seats and the newer SE can't be gotten with memory seats (must-have) or fog lights.
Hey brother, sorry for the late response, catching up on comments because you deserve a response. I am really glad to hear that you are happy with your sedan and especially with it being a Ford. If you don't mind me asking, what has attracted you to Ford? And totally feel you on the memory seats. I often work out of my car and Position 1 is driving mode and Position 2 is Laptop in lap mode haha. Thanks for commenting brother. -Brandon
PS I use to live in Upstate NY (Sackets Harbor area).
@A-BombEnergy I'm not brand loyal in any way, but we have owned a number of Fords (several Mustangs, plus Torino, Contour, Edge, Explorer and Fusion since way back in the 70s). In the case of the Fusion, it just does everything right as far as we're concerned, and still looks damn good doing it. The all-wheel drive works great and the 2.0 Turbo gets the job done in our hilly area of The Hudson Valley, though mediocre mpg.
I personally owned a 2011 Crown Victoria. I've had cars from the 70s all the way up today to a 2019. Personally or professionally, I've driven every transmission, every engine that you don't need a CDL for. That '11 Crown Victoria is the best car I have ever owned. If I had to choose between my 2011 Crown Vic and my 2014 Mustang GT, I'd take the Crown Vic every time. That car is also the only car I've been in that took a serious impact (Moose), and was entirely drivable back home and then to the shop for only a $500 repair. When an American company wants to make a truly solid car, they can. However, our laws need serious revision to guide our manufacturers back to Quality.
Hey brother, sorry for the late response, catching up on comments because you guys deserve a response. And yes, that Crown Vic is awesome, I personally think Ford made a massive mistake discontinuing it. At minimum they could have put a new skeleton on it and made it more sporty or something. I am not surprised in the least that you would take it over your mustang, I've heard similar thoughts like that from former owners. Glad you are okay too after hitting that moose, that must have been an interesting experience. I agree too about the laws...there are a lot of changes that need to happen, plus it would be more environmentally friendly to adjust the laws or even get rid of them entirely as sedans and hybrids would become more popular. Thanks for commenting my friend. -Brandon
Watching this while sitting in my 5 cylinder 2012 Volvo S60 with 220k miles and gets 29mpg still .
Wow! Thats awesome! Thanks for sharing that brother. Has it give you any wild issues? What do you anticipate the mileage will be before she needs to be replaced? -Brandon
When I clicked on this video, I half-expected it to be a "big car bad, small car good" take, but I was pleasantly surprised to see the points of each brought up. I personally drive a 98 grand marquis, and I love the thing. It's big and heavy, but it gets me where I need to go safely and efficiently (as much as it can, 20.5 mpg on a V8 isn't terrible).
Part of the reason I love it so much is the damn thing won't quit. Starts every time, even when it's grumpy from the cold weather. It honestly feels a lot better than most newer cars I've ridden in with fewer miles.
If ford ever re-releases the panther platform, I'm definitely going to be their first customer; I just hope they nail the quality control first (unlike the bronco)
Well my friend I am glad I provided you a video that wasn’t what you expected. I don’t dislike big cars or small, I love all cars. I think there is something wild happening in the industry that none of us fully understand yet but I will be figuring it out and hopefully sharing it with you guys soon. That 98 Marquis is awesome, it will probably outlive us all. Have you had any wild issues with it? And 20.5 mpg is really good, better than many of my V6s that are 20 years newer.
You think ford might release a panther again? I’ve heated rumbling that ford is going to make sedans again… -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy only issues so far is the plastic intake manifold (always dies after 100,000 miles) and the mass airflow sensor putting wayyy more gas than necessary. Other than that, I got lucky with the better transmission and brake lines, though I do regularly like to check up on it to prevent any problems "down the road"
I sure hope we get it back. I love the luxury and comfort of a big ol' American sedan
I used to be a "Ford Guy". My first new vehicle was a '72 Pinto. I've had numerous vehicles over the years, but always leaned to Ford. That is, until they completely abandoned the economy market. I currently have a 10 year old F150, but no longer want to spend the money on the fuel and repair costs associated with such a large vehicle. I just bought a new, 4 cylinder, normally aspirated, manual transmission "economy" car. I couldn't afford anything Ford offered new. They drove me to a Japanese manufacturer - Nissan. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa - under $20,000 out the door, and I'm getting 40+ miles per gallon. The F150 is up for sale.
Lyle, brother I don’t blame you at all for what you are doing. I too felt abandoned by this decision and I’m not really a ford guy but in the future I wanted to give Ford a try. I’m sorry they have abandoned you to the point where you had to switch manufacturers. But I honestly understand why you made that choice and I think that Versa will last you a really long time. People tend to give Nissan a hard time but much of the issues I’ve seen has been their CVTs, which obviously won’t affect you. We just traded our RAM Rebel for a base VW Jetta manual transmission. That 40mpg is REALLY nice lol so we are in the same boat. Thanks for commenting Lyle. I hope to see you in future comment sections on my videos. -Brandon 🫡
Great video!
American brands have had so much potential and they just continue to blow it.
The modular engine in the Crown Vic was bulletproof! But the Crown Vic had a frame underneath it like a truck(and old cars). There’s no reason they couldn’t have put that engine in a lighter weight car with a modern transmission. It could’ve easily been an efficient, dependable winner.
GM’s 3800 was super dependable too.
The move away from sedans wasn’t smart. But there were so few dependable, affordable domestic sedans. It was frustrating to watch.
I’m sure lots of folks would buy American sedans if they just did a better job.
And don’t get me started about manual transmissions. Car companies saying “nobody” wanted them. But I went to dozens of dealerships searching for one. My only option was to buy from the factory sight unseen, and no test drive.
Anyways, I’m new here. I look forward to seeing more.
Hey brother, thank you for the comment and kind words. Welcome aboard too, we are all about critical thinking and learning from each other on this channel. And totally agree with your sentiment on the crown Vic and 3800. I can’t even imagine how those would sell now if they modernized them and put them on a lighter platform.
lol manufacturers who claim nobody wants a manual are insane. As long as they make manuals guys like me and you will continue to buy them and I don’t think we are nobody’s.
What are you currently driving my friend? -Brandon
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Right now I’m driving an older BMW X1, but I hope to get into something more my taste soon.
10:00 the torque to yield bolts aren't what doomed the Northstar - everything today (and since the late 1980s) uses that style of head bolt. It may have been an improper torque sequence. Newer engine failures, specifically gasoline turbocharged, direct injected engines, are due to low speed preignition (LSPI). LSPI isn't fully understood, but it has been linked to calcium in the oil - oil in the cylinder wall, or on the ring lands of the piston, can spark off and create an ignition during the compression stroke, which absolutely destroys engines. The LTG engine (2.0l TDI gas engine) was a notorious poster child for this as GM even issued a tech bulletin on the failures which often occurred before the vehicle had 20k miles on it. Running the right oil is important - DexOS 1 version 2 was created specifically to address this issue (as noted in the STB). This isn't a failure on the car manufacturers as much as it is on CAFE - the high targets forcing manufacturers to extract V8 power out of a small 4 cylinder (or 6 cylinder) engine.
Interesting every mechanic I have talked to and even some people that are TH-cam mechanics that own shops have said that it’s the torque to yield bolts. I’ll have to do some further research on this. But yeah, I totally agree. CAFE has not done the auto industry any favors at this point. I think initially it was probably OK because it forced them to make better engines. But you can’t regulate engineering to be better. That’s just not how it works. At this point, I think Cafe needs to be completely stripped and let the free market run its course and see what happens. Do you think there’s a possibility of this happening? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy I'm a mechanic and I believe the issue with the Northstar was more with the design, or choice of materials. Yes, the TTY bolts lose tension and allow for the head gasket failures, but that's a thing with this engine. Every new engine design since the late 1980s uses TTY bolts, and they are not an issue on most engines. The Ford Modular (in all its forms), the GM LS, Toyota (the 1UZ V8 from 1989 for example), any modern engine uses these bolts (along with sintered iron rods i.e. powdered metal rods). TTY has been adopted because it provides a more robust clamping force on the gasket, allowing for a better seal. But yes I agree on CAFE - it needs to be reeled in. Setting a target of 55mpg for 2026 models ... just another example of the 'benevolent government doing the right thing by stepping all over people'.
Ong talk much???
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Recently bought my dad's 2015 Malibu LTZ off him since he did need to get an SUV because of his age. Small SUVs for ease of entry and exit I can understand for older/people with mobility problems. It's in great shape and gets great mileage and I hope to keep it going for many many more years to come.
Too many people nowadays throw practicality out the window when buying cars for ones they THINK they need or only want to look like a hotshot instead of what they actually need: a simple daily driver.
Hey brother thats awesome that you bought your dads car. Probably a super smart move because you probably know how it was treated and gives you a bit more confidence in the purchase. How many miles does it have? 2015 isn't terribly old and I believe that model didn't have tons of issues either.
And yeah, totally agree with your last point. I find myself sometimes buying things I don't need but in the end I just need a reliable A-B car. Thanks for commenting my friend! -Brandon
Some really great points here, I am a mechanic of 43 yrs, I have known the sub par build quality well, I will never forget a Chevette that a young lady drove with no oil over and over and that car would have ran forever until the frame rotted on it. You will never find that today.
Hi sir, thank you for commenting and sharing that story. It makes me sad that we can’t get cars like that nowadays. Unfortunately, that same lady has probably gone through many cars now because even being late on oil changes makes a big difference now…bloody turbos lol. What’s the BEST car in your opinion for reliability? -Brandon
@@A-BombEnergy This is a very well done project. Best cars until now honda and royota.
I’ve own two trucks: A 2002 Ford Explorer Sport Trac and a 2002 Toyota Tacoma. Both were well over +200,000 miles and were maintained incredibly well. I had problems with my Ford (I’m a ford guy) than my Tacoma. I will buy only Toyota and Ford in my life, but Ford is making it hard to believe in them.
One thing you didn’t mention was CAFE didn’t apply to light trucks. So it was cheaper to produce SUVs and pickups because they didn’t need to meet the standard or require engineering to reduce emissions.
If government put a weight tax on a vehicle I wonder things could’ve turned out differently.
This is true, I thought I implied it but next time I will be more clear on that. Thank you for calling me out on that, sometimes I get lost in thoughts when making videos and assume too much haha. My fault. I had a thought the other day and you tell me what you think but since CAFE standards change so much, what do you think would happen if they changed them to where it targets SUV's and Trucks....scary thought right? -Brandon
CAFE regulations apply to light trucks. NHTSA has two categories, passenger vehicles and light trucks. The passenger vehicle classification includes sedans, coupes, and station wagons. SUV'S and pickup trucks are included in the light truck class. The light truck regulations are calculated based on the area of the vehicles footprint and is the sole reason why SUV'S and pickups trucks are much bigger than they were twenty years ago. The larger the footprint, the less fuel efficient it is allowed to be. The passenger vehicles have completely different and more stringent regulations than vehicles classified as light trucks. U.S. manufacturers simply took the easier less competitive and more profitable road. CAFE regulations killed sedans, station wagons, and small short wheelbase pickup trucks in the U.S. and their demise was not consumer driven as the manufacturers and the media would like us to believe.
I also wonder if this is the factor behind car-like vans becoming popular in the USA (like the Ford Transit, the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, and the Fiat Ducato (Ram ProMaster)...all are unibody. Mercedes-Benz when it introduced the Sprinter to the USA advertised its 22 mpg as a selling point.
I was a GM customer. I grew up with GM because my dad had a Chevy Scottsdale pickup back in the 80's. I too had a Chevy. It was a 2000 S10. When that rusted out, I opted for a 2014 Chevy Cruze. While it was a great car, the engine eventually needed $1700 in repairs that were covered under warranty. That was its saving grace for me. I then opted to trade it for a 2016 Chevy Equinox which was a poor choice for a car. I wanted more room which I got, but the engine was underpowered for a vehicle its size. I began to hate it because it would downshift on every hill it encountered trying to climb it with its underpowered 4 cylinder engine. When I crashed that Equinox last fall, I decided to get away from GM because all they build are cars that are mediocre at best. I decided my next vehicle would be a Toyota and I'm happy I made that decision. When I settled on a 2020 Camry, I was happy that I got a car that was well built and had the performance and comfort that I wanted in a car. I'll never go back to GM again.
Brother, first off, thank you for sharing this story with us. We are all about hearing people’s experiences on this channel and utilizing critical thinking. Second off, I’m happy things worked out with you on your car and that the crash wasn’t life threatening. I think GM and really all American brands are going to face some serious challenges with the amount of underpowered turbo charged engines they keep forcing on people. Data has shown it’s not good for the life of a motor. They do it purely for short term MPG gains…which is deceptive. Do you see a resurgence of sedans? What are your thoughts on Toyotas recent problems? Specifically with their V6 turbos in the tundra. -Brandon
I've owned Hyundai, Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Pontiac, and Nissan and the only one that suffered a catastrophic failure was the Hyundai when the rear main seal broke on my way to work one morning but all the cars I've owned have gotten close to or over 200,000 miles with the only maintenance being just the normal maintenance stuff like tires, brakes, fluid changes. Cars back in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's were just made to last no matter how much you abused or neglected them but today cars are made for volume not longevity. Cars now are throw away products, when they tear up you take them to the crusher and buy another
Nah, in the late 70's American cars were becoming low quality and in 80's and even 90's was the pinnacle of crappy American cars, my father had a junky dodge spirit and had multiple problems with it and it even broke down when he went to pick my mother up for a date. My grandfather despite being a bellcore engineer thought it was the American thing to do, as in feed those piece of sh@t United Auto Workers pensions and the mechanics business. Little to say my family has never owned an American car granted it depends on the model and year (If you look up that 2009 Cash for Clunkers buy back spread sheet list and look at the 1984 Buick LaSabres there was only less then 10 scrapped compared to over 300 1985's) However for Hyundai it is common knowledge that their cars are notorious for engine problems.
There is 100% some truth in this. I think it always depends on the model you get but in the 90's and early 2000's there were some incredible models out there and some bad ones. I think now, most are throwaway, unless you buy foreign. They seems to be making the best quality, however, that is also fading as well...its really sad. What do you own now? -Brandon
@A-BombEnergy I have a 2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP with 183,000 miles, a 2014 Infinity Q50 with 101,000 miles, and a 2012 Nissan Armada with 169,000 miles. The two previous cars I once owned before before these were a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix that got up to 305,000 miles before my nephew totaled it and a 2009 Toyota Camry that got up 189,000 miles before my wife's daughter blew the engine when she hit something and knocked a hole in the radiator. And all of these cars still had the original engine and transmission with no overhaul ever performed.