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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2018
- Today we did another dyno on a dynojet with my stock 2019 Mustang GT. A 2018 Mustang GT will make similar horsepower with the 10r80 10 speed automatic transmission. An MT82 will make slightly higher power..
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Great video. Thank you. New subscriber to your channel.
Thanks and welcome to the channel. Definitely don’t miss the newer videos. Twin turbo action lol
Glad you was able to get a comparison! I would have liked to see him take the limiters out and run it to 7400 just to see. I agree having a local tuner is great.. Has worked out great for me having one close to me... I wouldn't have expected the service that I received from my tuner from a tuner that was remote tuning. The trackside tuning alone was worth it...
At the end of the day your hp numbers can vary from dyno to dyno.. I've always said its a tuning tool and good to use when you do modifications to the car so you can see what you picked up from modifications. If you use the same dyno over and over. Trap speeds at the track tell the tale!
Eddy current, dual roller and single roller inertial all give slightly different readings.
Hell tire pressure can have a significant effect on RWHP readings.
Nice results for an oem set up!!!
I can't wait to check my 19 GTPP on a DynoJet in ground single roller inertial that we use locally. My 460 powered 73 LTD did 456 SAE NET @ 6k rpm.
SJ
Great channel! Love the straightforward approach! Keep it honest and then you don’t have to back up on something you said. Keep it up buddy!
always. thank you so much
Another nice video. Those numbers definitely seems about right where a stock 18-19 Mustang should be at.
Dynos are so all over the place. In August, in pea soup humidity, and Lund stated " Crap gas" mine made 420 wheel with LTH, catless, Xtreme cb, Lund 93 and JLT box. I could go now to the same dyno but in todays air and prob see 440+. Which it BETTER make LOL..I now have a Steeda sealed lid intake and tune revision. Car feels very different and a lot better.
Nice pulls man. Car is strong.
Nice to see ur car on a Dyno again! Great numbers and Awesome looking at usual! Keep it up man boost is next! 😁
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Good video man! Glad you redid it. All these engines are pretty predictable in stock trim, and even between all the different tuners and tunes I've seen this year, I haven't seen variation between the tuned cars any more than 10whp at the max. Especially the A10 cars, the stick cars do put down around 15-20whp more, but then again, they sure aren't quicker at the track either. A10 is definitely the way to go if you want to have a quicker car right out of the box, go stick if you wanna have a bit more fun and spin the tires on the street at will.
Beastmode in his 2018 10sp auto hit 436rwhp at 7500.... im not sure you are accurate in that comment. Also, zander in his blue 2018 hit rwhp of 426, 428, and a 430hp....
So are the 2019 not producing as much, or the hit @6200-6500 losing that much power by not hitting the 7500? Just saying, two 2018's both were very similar with an additional 26-36 rwhp @7500...????
Thanks for this! My 19 GT is making 450 after an intake and exhaust with tune so I was trying to see what the baseline was
Good vid brother. Those numbers sound right.
Thanks for the comparison of the two dynos. Looking forward to your Bowling Green results.
I can’t wait
Taylor is THE MAN! Highly recommend!
I think a tune does up the speed limiter were you can do it in 6th as i did mine. My tuner said that i could have done it in 7th but it was too late by then because i talked to him after the dyno and not before. He told me between 6th and 7th there is 10-15whp difference. I did 443whp and 410wtq in 6th at 75 ambient. In 7th it would have put me probably at 453-458whp. Either way this is your older vid your much much higher now, love that red. Great vids keep posting them.
Just dyno my 18 10speed. 398 im 5th gear. 2% of margin(8hp) so results are very close to what you got. Nice video and thanks!
thanks, solid numbers
9:47 prius walks by in the bg
Loving the vids, becoming my favorite mustang youtuber
Thanks so much
Zander13 thanks for the reply! You should make a vid on how you wash your car! All car guys love those. Just a thought though.
Simply Lionel I have considered this
Another great vid my man! I just went back to my dyno printout because I didn’t notice what they revved it out too during my pulls. Looks like they shut it down at 6800 RPM on mine. You definitely have another 5-15hp in there if you can rev it out past 7k.
Suspension mods? Cradle lockout? Rear subframe connectors? Those are my next mods haha
Keep em coming brother, great job! Cheers
Thanks, I think so too. If it would go to 7-7500 I think 415 is very possible. And yes, Some pre-track IRS suspension mods
Nice! Glad you did this for the comparison. Sad you didn’t get the unicorn but still better than my 17. Now let the mods commence.
Absolutely yes. I have some neat things coming in the mail all week long
Still great numbers can’t wait for more content you and Stangmode might be on the same page with coming up surprise ✅❤️❤️👍😎😍🤩
Zander.
The only dyno numbers that matters to the viewers, are the standard Dynojet ones (non Eddy current ).
So if you want a real world number, both for you and your viewers. Get the car baselined at a Dynojet 224x and have the rev limiter removed so you can rev out the motor.
What is the point in dynoing a cars engine power if you don't use the full range of the engine powerband!
As a tuning tool you can use whatever dyno you want. But as general comparison tool against other cars engine power. The industry standard is the Dynojet 224x. That are the only valid comparison numbers.
Stock GT 500's 07 to 09 dyno about 445. Very impressive for a 5.0 naturally aspirated engine. No blower! Good followup video!
Careful in that darn rain. They're calling for snow friday up here.
snow, yep. winter is among us lol
Snow? Pffft, send it! :) oh wait, I’m the only one doing that haha
@@tlcgtp lol
424 to the wheels LOL Good video Mr Zander 👍
Well jus seen yea stock numbers pretty good man hell yea be happy! Rhats a lot for a stock 5.0.
Great job with the follow up, Better double checking then having this come back and bite you in the butt! LoL 😂, I’m three months with my 2019 Mustang GT black out, And absolutely love it!!!, It’s predictable, handles like a dream, excellent on fuel for a sports car lol, No drama off take off and just God dame sexy!, I highly recommend this car to everyone......you won’t regret it. 😎🏁
Good video bro! Can't wait for you to put more power into it. Keep up the good work
The 3 Mustang GT's I have seen dyno'd stock make between 400-415 rwhp.
These new Mustangs with Autos have around a 12% Parasitic Loss, Which would translate to 405 rwhp from 460 crank hp, so you are right near what it should be.
Those are really good numbers for a stock 5.0 A10 Zander!
thanks, im happy with it
I'd be happy with that car as is. It's fine. It's beautiful. It's powerful and lots of fun and the 10 speed is amazing.
That's why no one will remember your name
@@jamesb1856 dont care about anyone remembering my name kid
It was a joke slick, calm down
Troy!
Those are great numbers out of a stock car I wonder how much faster the 19 feels from my 17
Its all good my friend, get your launches worked out before 16th and go from there. ..i understand money dont grow on trees!
I see that the shop loves their Subie's.
What was the TQ?
A mild tune on fuel and timing can make that engine run much crisper. OEM tune is very conservative in case of bad fuel, in hot day to prevent detonation.
Those are great numbers. Right where they should be.
Agreed
glad you got it worked out. i was wondering if Ford made a mistake and you got a Bullitt engine tune. Stranger things have happened in the automotive assembly line. I think the most first mod people do is cold air intake or a X pipe exhaust. Looking forward to see what you do with yours. :)
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Dyno numbers can change day to day i found and are hard to repeat because of atmospheric conditions plus types of dyno used even technicians operation can cahnge data that why when rating it done over several months and different dyno's,, I do wanna say this car number are awesome for a stock daily street car this is rear wheel numbers flywheel power should be approximately 28% -30% higher
Zander we all know the numbers at the track and yes they’re impressive, I would like to see how well they run in the quarter mile on the street. ( closed street of course). Just curious. Thanks in advance keep up the good work
My 17' GT with 8000 miles got 379 6 months ago, for comparison, bone stock except we removed the air filter, Phillips 66 gasoline... 6 speed manual... Automatics do better with turbos, manual transmissions probably would do better with a supercharger.
Taylor is a great guy would love to take my car there to get it dyno
Such a great color
Thanks
Have you tried dyno with abs plugged back in? I wonder if that plug does more than abs
Much respect for posting honest numbers I feel very sorry for all those other guys who paid $50 to 100 which is normally the going rate for a fake dyno pulls. Even though they don't mean shit seems like some people live by them and how congratulations nice car
What other guys?
@@jessetolley3974 beginning of the video three other cars with high dyno numbers. As I stated I'm not criticizing anybody of lying or anything I just think the Dyno was messed up. Unfortunately too many people live and die by Dino numbers. I just didn't want to see the dude get slandered 4 incorrect correct numbers
U are cutting out ur vtec half way thru it
That sounds dead on correct for a 6500 RPM pull. IMO, you're looking at about 415 as it climbs to 7500. Nice of those guys to offer you their shop for comparison.
Yes, I am thrilled they did that
Zander13- Didn't beastmode hit 436rwhp 400 trq at 7500 in his 2018..? In your blue 2018 was 430rwhp...
I think at 7500 rpm is the meal ticket as the top end of that is where the full power comes from, right??
Nice video bro. I know you're going to add a lot more power to your mustang. 😁
oh yes
Good stuff
Impressive!
I've dyno'd anywhere from 340 to 370 hp at the rear on different dynos. I've never cared what the number is, I only care how the number changes on that dyno, on that day, in regards to the changes i make. It's a tuning tool.
agreed
Another way to say that is it's good for measuring relative values, not absolute values.
My bone stock 19 was running 430 whp. I dont understand how but it is. Its weird. I love the car tho. No tick as of now 🤞🤞
Actually, i do run injet cold air intake without tune**
Still powerful!
How do you like your airfreshner? That's my favorite scent.
Lol
What does taking off the load on the last run do?
What fuel grade was used for this dyno session?
still great numbers
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Great video. Just bought my ‘20 gt PP1 and was curious what it really hits stock
Congrats on new Mustang
I got a factory freak 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great number
thanks
in which gear is measured on a Mustang 10 Speed?
Hey Zander, test was really decent , not having any mods yet to engine. I know you you will have that car screaming in no time. Sounded really good.
Are you doing any mods to the exhaust ? Good luck her ???. Hey before I go got a question for you, I just bought a 2011 5.0 GT premium, my first with a cyote engine, only has 45,000 on it and screams for what the car is. Are you familiar with these 1st coyte engines 5.0. . For 2011 and beyond heading towards this year and beyond. Do you have any tips on any mods for it. Thanks Zander.
oh yes, please check my latest videos. I just dropped a new video today
Supposed to do dyno runs in a 1:1 gear ratio. For the A10 that’s 7th gear. Any gear lower than that, even 6th, is still multiplying torque and will give a higher/false reading.
A gear below 1:1 does not make more power. It makes less not more but a gear above 1:1 will show more power.
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ear Nashville. The scenery rolling in from I-65 south like Brentwood area is beautiful. I also liked my drive from Memphis to Nashville. The hills and when I had to drive through the rocks I thought was cool.
I love the hills
I drove through the area 3 weeks ago and agree it is beautiful.
Got nothing on SE Michigan ! Great Lakes state. We have Roush Motorsports & Livernois Motorsports local plus hundred other smaller shops like this 1 In TN. #Mustanglife
Get it on the track and lets see what trap speed is, that's what matters and its a better EST of HP.
I am on the 17th
Amen
442bhp 511 tq to the wheels at 7100RPM on a Swedish (EU) 2018 GT, Manual with 3.55 gearing (different to PP1 in the Us albeit being a PP1). 98 octane (EU, 93 US but probably higher quality fuel). Pleased. Us EU people get gas particulate filter on all 2018+ which I thought would ruin the power but numbers suggest otherwise. Also one has to wonder how empty that particulate filter section of the exhaust is, as well as the cats, considering the power. 450 BHP claimed on EU cars, delivering that to the wheels....... lol. PS: Dynojet used in this case with fuses out to prohibit BS letting us dyno it proper. Tried both 4th gear (straight ratio) and 3d (computer re-calcs) and the values matched until rev limiter due to 155mph limiter vs 3d gear not hitting the limiter. Hence reliable numbers since curves matched until 6900 rpm in both cases, numbers too.
I'm assuming this doesn't qualify as a "factory freak"?
408 RWHP sounds about correct for stock.
I'm happy with it
I wonder what the new 2024 Mustang GT will put down in stock form. I want to say 430ish whp
Still impressive numbers, Zander. Glad you have a cool shop like that to go to. Are you planning on going to the track to time your Mustang before you build it? It would give you a baseline to see how much the mods are helping.
yes, we are going to the track at the nov 17 subscribers meet at beech bend raceway in bowling green, KY
@@Zander13Productions Glad to hear that. I'm excited to see what your Mustang will run before the extra mods! Guarantee it will start off fast and only get faster as you build it.
Still nice numbers. I think you should be closer to 420 or so after the adjustments are made.
Dang 408 whp is 480 crank very impressive. A nearly 500 hp n/a 5.0 with a CAI and tune
Absolutely
More realistic numbers for sure however that wasn't a Dynojet it was a Dynotech dyno which is made by Dyno Dynamics just fyi...
Yea, I found that out after all the recording
Nice
Nice car sir
Thank you so much
Just think, the stock 2018 and 19 GT's, are making over 50+ rwhp and 50+ rwtq more vs the 15-17 GT's. Then you factor in the awesome 10r80 and you have beast of a machine. I know, I had a 17 GT manual and just bought a 19 GT PP 10R80.
Do you plan on getting a tune? I'm seriously considering it just to firm up the shifts and fix some of the lower gear downshift revmatching issues in manual mode (3rd to 2nd is one of the worst).
JCTiggs
Do you mean 50 more based off dyno numbers because the factory hp from a 2017 is 435 hp and 400 tq, Fords claim is only 25 hp more and 20 tq more because of the addition of port injection and the gt350 intake the 2018 numbers from Ford are 460/420
@@Sonicaceman Yes, that is confirmed SAE rwhp and rwtq based on many dyno runs in other words, 490+ hp and 455+ lb ft at the crank. This is at least 55 to 60+ hp/trq compared to the 15-17 GT. The advertised numbers at the crank by Ford are underrated and is a well known fact. Possible reasons could be to protect the GT350, otherwise who knows.
Whats next for the car? I'd like to see something different. N/A with headers, cams, intake and max head porting.
Not sure yet
I am happy to hear this in a way. I bought a 2018 5.0 GT 7 months ago. And I sincerely doubted the "460.00 hp @ 4700 rpm" B.S. the factory spues out at the consumer. It feels more like 380 bhp to 400 bhp AT THE MOST!!! Thank you Zander13!
Justin Christensen
Not sure where you found your numbers but this is from Ford.
460hp @7000 rpm and 420lb/ft @ 4600 rpm.
thats at the crank , not the wheel. They dont false advertise
He tuned my 18. Check out the vids
Get the car tuned so u can get real #s and not have any limiters
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Where was the torque at?
why does it say 460 on their website???
So what’s the diff between the two synod why go to the first one if it’s not right
It was a free visit
Only difference is a cold air intake and tune on the bullit a little different muffler as well i think...
The bullit has a ported gt350 manifold from factory as well. I think a bigger throttle body too but not sure.
@@rileyneufeld7001 yea i think you are right a good value really for the money nice set up.
@@coloradokid808 Yep. Midnight performance dynod one, it made about what a GT makes... Not much difference.
Still believe going to the track is the real test of stock vs modded.
Soon at the subscriber meet
Why do American dynos show always the wheel horsepower? Maybe because it shows
the more realistic thing. But…no manufacturer name the wheel but always the engine horsepower!
So it is hard to check if a car has the stock mentioned Power 🤔
so no 460hp as advertised by ford ? any idea as to why ? I read elsewhere that the 460hp advertised was actually undervalued by ford and that they where making 480-500hp but unsure if there is any truth behind it..
460 is at the crank, not the wheels
Weird, 5.7 Dodge Charger stock makes 370 hp and 352.8 whp. STOCK. That’s a 17.2 hp loss and this lost 47 hp from 455 hp. 🤔 can anybody help me understand?
My stock number was 408hp on my 2018, and 422hp with a bama tune
Go with Lund, headers and E85 and you'll be close to 500
If you're gonna modify i recommend a vmp gen 3 supercharger in my opinion they pull really hard compared to others
He said maybe 5. 412 mayyyyybe with limiter removed.
Also that’s not a dynojet at all
I was thinking that too, definitely not a dynojet
I'm curious to see what the numbers are if you put it on an actual DynoJet. I assume you had 93 Octane in it?
Justin on AM only pulled a 398 rwhp with his 10R80 but it's was right of the show room for with 87 Octane. That's the lowest I've seen for an 18+ GT. For comparison, on the same dyno, their 2018 GT pulled 437 rwhp and 402 rwtq, while their 2015 GT pulled 370 rwhp and 350 rwtq.
Yes 93 octane
Didn't mean to overstep the other day when I said Slow Down trying to inflate the numbers. You seem like an honest dude 413 is a very fair number for automatic it's just a number you have a hell of a car new Mustangs are badass. Love my 14 GT500 old drag racer myself 600 inch big block 67 FastbackI was thinking about making TH-cam videos but there's enough of you guys out there I like to sit back and enjoy yours so keep up the good work don't worry so much in the dyno numbers. Let's see this car turn into the car you want hopefully a big horsepower street car I can also go down the track have fun.,👍
Thanks so much. I enjoy making the videos and I try to be as honest as possible
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Wait so these only lose around 60hp from the crank? I thought these were rated 460 stock?
Ford usually underrates their cars and trucks a little bit even the 18 f150 5.0 supposed to be 395 hp and at the wheels can make about 350 hp no tune
@@kevinanglin678 why do they do that? basically lying about the the specs
@@noelbarrera5674 emissions probably
Does driver mode have any affect on hp? Ex. Sport or track mode.
no
Nope it's just trans tuning basically. Drag mode has no torque management, so it slams gears faster and harder. Track mode lowers spark when downshifting around corners and such.
Seems very low compared to other dynos on the 18. What does that mean your car is getting at the crank?
The auto kills the power. If it would go to 7500 I’m sure we would have seen about 415hp as I said in video. Manual 18-19s are getting 430 stock.
Then why does Ford say they are 460 horsepower
The way I remember 2016 camaro ss had 426-427whp with 455bhp
That seems high. Usually a 15% off of the 455hp #.
LuvKills Slowly I know its kind of high. But the youtuber mentioned that its stock
@@erikzakharyan4313 What I'm saying is that the dyno at 427WHP is way too high for the stock HP of 455bhp. A loss of only 28bhp based on 455bhp is 100% incorrect.
@@JasonJolo98 he’s actually right
Is it stock
Why does Ford advertise/claim on their website 460 hp? Are they using a different dyno? What's the deal?
They advertise crank HP. Actually wheel HP is less. So if my car makes 430 wheel then it’s right in line with 460 crank. My car now makes right at 500 wheel. So it’s closer to 560-570 crank
408...👍🏼
Don’t sweat it man. Dyno #’s are overrated anyway. As long as you’re car is making linear power, and no strange dips or spikes, then you’re set
absolutely yes
T U exactly, power curve over peak numbers any day