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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2021
- The 2022 Honda Civic Si is here and let’s get right to it, it looks absolutely fantastic.
The 2022 Honda Civic Si will only be available as a four-door sedan meaning you can’t have it with the regular Civic hatchback design.
It does take some bits and pieces from the old hatchback Type-R though and one of the more important ones is the fantastic 6-speed manual transmission.
Honda isn’t playing around here and they’re really doing their part in saving the manuals by making it the only option for the new 2022 Si.
Another feature carried over is the Type R's rev-matching feature, which some people like and some don’t. If you’re not a fan of it, no need to worry, it can still be turned off completely.
The 2022 Honda Civic Si is powered by the same turbocharged 1.5-liter I-4 as before, however it now puts out 200 horsepower and 192 lb-ft of torque.
This in combination with a relatively light car and the six-speed manual should make for an engaging driving experience.
The transmission isn’t completely the same as the old one. Honda did a bit of tweaking to shorten the shift throws by 10% and also improve the overall shift feel.
The old transmission was an absolute joy to use and I look forward to seeing how this new one feels.
As we’re used to with Civics the new 2022 Si is front-wheel drive only.
What about the wheels? The plantedness and visual connection to the ground? Well the Si comes standard with all-season 235/40 tires and optional summer tires all around with unique Si matte-black 18-inch rims.
They don’t look too bad and I bet they’re very comfortable. But those are definitely the first to go if I bought one of these. For my personal taste, I want more connection to the ground than these wheels give me visually.
The biggest news on the inside is the 9-inch infotainment screen with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto which are connected to a 12-speaker Bose stereo system.
You could buy the previous generation Si for as little as $26,000 and even though this new model is expected to be more expensive than that, it won’t be by much.
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Having owned a 9th Gen 2013 Coupe Si with the 2.4 is one of the best.
Sorry kid, 6th and 8th was the best. You missed out
Definitely loved the level headed way you went about this car. I think this generation Type R is going to look absolutely perfect, I can't wait.
If it was a sedan then yes but as the hatchback will look ugly from the rear
@@jovtecxtv1321 a Sedan Type R this gen would've been absolutely perfect I know
all I can say about it is thank you for finally giving the civic dual exposed exhaust
The regular Civic hatch has that
@@enriqueali oh I didn’t notice that well I don’t count that because it’s just some crappy look surround bumper piece
Good visual comparison. However- would you please do the same comparison between the 10th Gen Si and this 11th Gen Si? I'd like to see how the two compare and differ.
It's pretty crazy seeing the split in the community. I think it can definitely go both ways but I like the "boring" look more. It's like a sporty accord which looks cool to me. I can see how the design is a let down for other people though. I really wanted a 10th gen and now I would be happy with this. Not sure about the red around the honeycomb vent, I'd get that wrapped or maybe it's an easy to pop off part.
Now I can't get either generation cause car prices are dookie.
More people like this than the disaster that was the previous generation.
@@iwontreplybacklol7481 more loyal civic fans hated this than the previous better looking sporty gen.
10th gen looked like an overdone 10yr olds drawing with fake vents. 11th gen is clean with a lot of room for custom parts to shape it better
I liked that Honda went back to a ‘traditional’ yet identifiable design, but with a few details, side view reminds me of last gen Kia and at the back, those taillights are an oversized version of the ones in the 7th gen Jetta, as for the Si version, looks like something you can do with their own parts catalog, nothing with a wow factor apart from the orange color, let’s wait for the type R.
The Si has more HP than the standard model civics as well
10th gen Honda Civic still better looking imo
Nice video as always, it would be interesting to see your approach on how the Civic type r should look
I love the way you redesign it, i think it looks better too with a small taillight. Can you do more of a series of redesigns? And focus on designs that last and look good for years to come.
I like the new Honda Civic, but what disappoints me about the Si is the fact that it doesn’t look any different from your standard base model. Of course it has a different exhaust and little deck lid spoiler but that can be easily changed in the aftermarket. I would have incorporated some fog lights, a hood with a little bit of a bulge to make the front end look a little more aggressive and quad tips for the rear. Also, I don’t know if I am missing the point on what this car is trying to be but I drive a car from 2008 with 253 HP and the fact that this is 50 HP less for a sport model is kind of disappointing. I think 275 HP would have been good and the Civic Type R should have had 350.
Definitely. Especially since Honda is adding Turbos to their Engines. The SI should’ve been around 250HP. They shouldn’t have gone down to a 1.5L rather just should’ve kept the K20 with a turbo to give it the proper power. 15 years and they’re still at 200hp. 🤦♂️
Tell me when the Si looked different than the standard base model... don't worry I'll wait...
Why don't you give us your version of the TypeR Sketch...love your work
is the honda civic rs same with that of a honda civic si? if not, what is/are the differenc(es)?
super excited for this i really want one!!!
I’m getting this. I been looking for a 10th gen Si new but it’s impossible and my 10th gen hatchback sport 2021 was totaled recently and this style is growing on me
In 10 years when It's depreciated to hell and back maybe I'll be able to afford it.
It's a Honda they don't depreciate much
The problem with the rear lights is that big plastic triangle on the inner lower region of each light, it covers such a large portion of the trunk and has no real use.
can you do more of these but compared to older generations? that would be great for people like me who owned the older generations of SI
I like the design. What do you think of the K5?
I honestly think it looks amazing and is simple but looks like a civic still. I’m going to buy one once I finish highschool which is this year and absolutely can’t wait
The wheels of the normal civic look kind of similar to the 2015 subaru liberty/legacy wheels.
I've had an 8th gen SI sedan for 11 years now. Probably one of the funnest cars ever built at its price point. I may never encounter another car that connects with the driver so perfectly while matched with a motor that sounds like a 60's F1 machine. I wish I could buy it again brand new. Liking the idea of an SI sedan, but not sure about this baby accord look though
Wait till you get to drive an S2000
Great video. The civic sport model is more similar to the civic si. Same wheel style and blacked out side mirrors.
You can see that they took inspiration from the EG, EK and FD generation of civic.
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CIVIC SI: 4 DOORS...
Looks fantastic
remember old time when my father got his 0 mile 2011 Si in Rallye Red for 23k, now msrp are high probably around 27k
The Civil looks like a VW Jetta now
Could you please make a video on the Nio ET7
And I think I heard they took away the heated seats.... why would you downgrade some aspects of a NEWER car??
I like the mew Honda style and design. Again, not much you can change. But from what I see, it is quite amazing that Honda trying a new design style. I do like it. 👍
should have done the comparison between si vs sport, they look almost completely identical
Civic Si vs Hatchback ... both are quality good, one is gear more toward fun (Si) and the other one is for practicality (large cargo capacity), I really wanted a Hatchback Si, Type R is grat for sure but for where I live, it will get stolen in the blink of an eye x_x
I have too say .. I just have the new 2022 bace Honda Civic sport..sedan ..and on and off center feel in the steering,damping , and spring rates.. the overall driving dynamics.. for the non high performance model is fantastic!! The new si and type r should be outstanding!
Any new car around 200hp with new coilovers should feel fantastic, if you don't push the limits of the car and test other cars you would not be able to identify whats missing
Omg why less power!!?? They needed to improve the 0-60!
I Love my Nissan Sentra & Altima, even Corolla Standard Shift, planning to get a Civic Standard Shift 2023
i think they may the tail lights bigger for the wider type r
I’m trying to not hate this car but I just can’t bring myself to like it
It lost some of the aggressive looks the 10th gen had that gave it an appealing look imo
I love the blacked out trim and the new Civic looks better than the old gen.
All I can say is that I heavily prefer how the Chinese market Honda Integra looks over our Civic. If we got the Chinese Integra design here and that got an Si, I would've been very interested in buying one. Seriously, what are the designers in Japan doing? How did Chinese designers beat them??
I think the Chinese one looks like cheap ebay aftermarket. I'd take a fresh 8th gen over either.
Pretty cool design.
I think people are really disappointed with the lower power figures because we see Hondata easily pushing past those figures a generation ago. No one was delusional enough to expect 300 HP, but I think alot of people wanted 230 HP. So 200 HP, even if it is more usable, is still a huge let down.
My 2020 Si with a tune is probably making 220 without a problem, with 4 more psi of boost. Just weird they thought we needed more low end. I think 2100 rpm peak torque was low enough.
I like the standard model wheels more than the blacked out Si wheels. Although I think blacking out everything is past overdone now. OEMs do tend to pick up trends when they are passed due. :) Problem GM has with some of their sport trims black out too much see the Corvette. The black trim around the window is ok. The front grill change I think it's better than the standard model and maybe should be considered for Civics across the board. But the blacked out mirrors....eh leave it body colored. The lip spoiler on the trunk would be better probably body colored too.
Should be a fun car. Wish they did that Acura Metallic Red too.
Oh and I agree with the tail lights comment. When I first saw pictures thought they were too big. Then I saw one on the road and thought it's not so bad. They have grown on me.
It looks so plain. Looks like someone just went to an aftermarket company and just slapped a spoiler on it
I hope they have optional lips or different wheel options. Maybe even an alternate wing option.
Wait I think they do actually do offer an HPD pack or something.
Yup. I actually think last gen looks better
I agree. Seems lazy that SI doesnt get its own front facia, only grill, and the spoiler might look better being just a smooth steady lip extension without the dip in the middle.
I am a fan of any liftback.
They need an Si hatch. Still waiting.
Just bring the European model Sport Line Type R .... With smaller wheels, dark colored seats, lower profile rear wing, etc.
honda still wants to use wrong wheel drive aka front wheel drive for there performance cars. they could at least make the Si a awd. geesh.
What type R had a 1.5t engine? He keeps saying the transmission from the type R.......I doubt the K20 tranny bolts up to the L15 .....
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all, throwing out misinformation go figures and he doesn’t know how terrible the l15b7 transmission is. I came from a 17 Si. The reliability and construction internally of the new Hondas, steered me away from Honda sadly.
That's why I like my 9thgen just fine. I can beat on it all day and it's still ticking like new 240,000 miles later
@@jrkustomz5538 Exactly!!! I have an 04 Rsx Type S. And I traded the Civic for an 09 Lexus ISF 8 speed v8 track machine. Which both will happily go well well well over 200k being beat on and still being reliable.
@@jrizzyjoe I have a 98 ex for the daily commuter and it's still putten around with a measely 314,000 on the clock . I sold my last rsx but it wasn't an S just base and sold it with over 330 on the clock. And I beat em like slaves and they still go.
You guys are dumb. The k20c1 and l15 share the same tranny. That hardly means anything though when they change everything else inside it.
Actually prefer the look of the standard civic 😅
With Honda sticking to this 1.5 turbo they are going to perfect it and make it even more reliable year after year. I wouldn’t have bought a 1.5 in there first few years but I’d be willing to give them a look now
I went out on a limb and got the 1.5T in a 2016 Honda Civic. The engine has been a great runner so far with about 93k miles to day - only had an A/C condenser issue at about 55k miles that was covered under warranty. Never left me stranded and starts up everytime with just regular oil changes and typical maintenance.
@@kenne340 People try and crap on the oil mixing with fuel but that's not a problem unless you go over 10k miles on an oil change.
It looks WAY better in person!!!! I'd go for white
Throw a tune and bolt ons...that will make it worth it
I’m happy my Sport looks almost identical for 2K less, although it’s a lot slower.
have we heard prices yet?
@@SIIKAP1 no but it’s estimated to be 26-27 USD
@@pbscars6320 let’s hope !
I bout a used accord 2.0 touring for 24k low miles and it spanks pretty much all si
@@Jdm_fl5 Nice! I wish I could’ve found one for that price before buying my Civic. The Si will probably handle better, plus it only comes in manual, but those 2.0s are mean on a drag strip.
i really like the new civic cause of its clean design and I love the way you talked about it. My dream car is the e24 6 series, in particular the 635csi, if u could modernize that car like u modernized the e30 it would look like an absolute beast!!!
The lines of this car actually make it look like a baby 3 series. I like the new civic sedans. Interior looks great as well.
And 99% on drivers on the road wont notice the difference between them and to them it will still be "just another Civic" lol.
That's all well and sound good until you see what's on offer beyond the northern borders 😳
On the outside alone, the Canadian Honda Civic Si comes with fog lights. It also has parking sensors at the front and at the back, while the LED turn signals are already integrated on the side mirrors. Of note, the US version has only one advantage over the Canadian Civic Si, and that's the availability of the $200 High Performance Tires (HPT) upgrade, which isn't available north of the border.
Inside, the baffling changes continue as the Canadian Civic Si comes standard with a 10.2-inch TFT display for the instrument that changes depending on the drive modes. It also has shift lights, while the cabin gets heated seats, front and back, and a heated steering wheel.
Climate control's also dual-zone for the Canadian Civic Si, while the rearview mirror is auto-dimming and integrated with a home link for garage door integration. There's a wireless smartphone charger, finishing the list of specs that the US Civic Si doesn't have.
This is fine since not all of these features are coveted ones for the US market - until you learn that the Canadian Civic Si is actually cheaper than the US counterpart.
Of note, the Civic Si in Canada starts at CAD $33,150😃😃😃
Fantastic ? 🤨 are we looking at the same car?
It's a great car. I traded in a "19 Sport for a "22 Touring Civic and it's a huge improvement inside and out.
You should’ve been the designer the back looks way better with the smaller tail lights
Not a huge fan of the hatchback, so this is pretty nice imo
Car is almost accords size. Hood is long, not proportion when you look at the side. They didnt test the 2.0L engine.. always the 1.5L turbo..
The difference is one is the Si and the other is not the Si
I prefer the sport touring hatchback with a tune vs the Si
The new Subaru WRX can learn a lot from Honda's styling of the civic.
That’s why I still have my 2020 WRX lol not planning on trading it for the 22
It looks ok, I'm a bit disappointed
na, the older one looks way better
is that bakhoor ?
Yeah, but the tail lights are still too big!
You lost me when you said a 90 hp car can be more fun than a 400hp car, lol. I guess if we're talking about a go cart, lol.
Looks great, so glad they got rid of the fake vents and fins. Looks like a vehicle for adults now.
The 10th gen was designed for the track pretty much every aspect and angle was on purpose plus it looked 10x better than this piece of junk
@@ryandresser9643 Built for the track? 🤣🤣🤣 It was designed to attract racerboy types that think they're in a "Fast & Furious" movie. The 11 gen handles and rides better and the interior is light yrs nicer.
@@mic7856 old one looks cooler to me it also has more horse and what’s wrong with being a racerboy it is fun getting cars like that and supping them to make them cool
looks boring they should've made a hatchback one
Imagine buying a brand new Si, and then being smoked by an older gen Si. 🤦♂️
That comment is so ignorant and completely stupid I won’t even give a proper response
@@WOMPCRASH lemme guess: you’re planning to buy the new one with less power 😂
Ma ma Mia!
@Dale Macarena they skipped 2021…good luck
Should’ve been a coop
But spec wise, it looks like more of a Civic "sport package" rather than an Si, it have less horsepower than before, while it should atleast can compete with the like of Golf GTI or the new Hyundai or atleast the Mazda3 turbo, it's a bit disappointing in that part
I'm sure it would get outperformed by the Elantra N (the hyundai I'm assuming you're talking about). That's supposed to be the type r fighter from them
@@azhule4041 thats what I'm saying, it's not like this gonna kill the upcoming type-R if they decided to put more power, since type-R compete on the higher more "extreme" class than the Elantra N , the type-R competition is closer to the A45 , Focus RS and RS3, rather than Golf GTI, or A35
and also they can do it easily with the 2.0 turbo from the accord
@@ezrapardede1921 well the 2 liter accord engine is the detuned type r engine. I do think the elantra N will be a very hard hit to type r sales though. Considering its a dct auto ( instantly has more range of audience) it's close to the 300 hp mark stock (276 I think). Think Velocster N and the Type R from last gen.. If honda did add more power to the si, then it would be considered in that area. But since they didn't, the Elantra N falls closer to the type R and Velocster N than the SI
Maybe you should go to honda and design a type r see if it sells
As an s2000 owner , you can’t really play with an s2000 on normal city roads , has no torque and you need a lot of space to wind the motor up where the power is … also vtec doesn’t even engage until 6k rpm’s at least on the AP1 😂
It’s only fun on the highways/ road trips
I went with the touring model I had to have the leather
this does look like an AWD car ngl
I just want the Type R to be a 5 seater instead of the 4 seater it has been.
You’re part of the problem
@@lethalpenguin61 What problem are you referring to?
@@Tjtjboy the problem of the manufactures feeling like they have to scale up and make everything bigger, even when its a sports car were talking about. the fact that you are even asking for the type R to have more seats is deeply offensive to anyone who is a car enthusiast. and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself.
@@lethalpenguin61 If car enthusiast gets offended over someone else's preferences, then that's their problem. And I have never been ashamed of my own preferences. I stand by what I said. I want that extra seat in the middle of the back seat of the Type R.
@@Tjtjboy people like you are killing sports cars
10:03 has anyone noticed much shorter overhangs? 💖
This was my only complaint about the new Civic, it was an insane eyesore and i'm super happy they made this improvement on Si, it's like a different car.
Bigger wheels, longer wheelbase and shorter overhangs did the trick.
I am not a fan of reduced power. The SI needs another 40 hp.
Nothing that a Ktuner cant easily take care of for cheap
Looking at the market, this got the Civic Type R transmission because Honda is not currently making a manual civic. This "is" a better transmission but I'm sure it was a financial decision, plus it stops you from converting a regular civic into a SI faker.
The last si got the same Trans just a different flywheel.
It’s an average design. Not ugly, but it doesn’t stand out at all. I honestly prefer the looks of the 10th gen.
No hate to the car or etc but only ppl who like/love this car love Accords. Not Civics since this thang is tweakin, I’m still a proud owner of a 2016 Touring and I love it better than this. I’ll wait for the next best thing in Accord/Integra. :D And Accord better not look like this! 😆
hatchback looks 100x better
I don't know why but I just don't like the way it looks. There's just something about it that prevents me from liking it visually.
I'll tell you whats different....the Si badge and sport wheels
If by looking fantastic you mean boring then yeah, it's very fantastic. A fun design it ain't, for me.
Yeah , I guess you could stick with 10 Gen that looks like it was designed by a kindergartener's drawing .
compare it to the spurt model
It's easy for a company to justify why horsepower, or an increase in it, is not necessary for a car to be fun and engaging to drive. Fact is, the Si needs more power - not less power. I was hoping the new Si could have at least 20-25 additional horses. It needs it! And Honda can do it AND make it engaging and fun too.
The proof is in the Type R. I can guarantee that Honda will bump up the HP for that vehicle and they can make it more fun and more engaging to drive. If Honda can make a 300+ hp, fwd car that has been hailed as one of the best handling, most fun cars to drive, they can surely put a little more power in the Si and still make it a fantastic car to drive. But instead, Honda reduces the hp by 5 and claim that it will be a better, overall car.
Give me a break!
Compare the civic si with the accord
its better then the new wrx
Looks like 1990's
Nihon did Well. Great Design! I Love their Reliability, Great Cars, Toyota, Nissan & Honda
I like the styling. But to call it stunning? Come on. lol...I own a 18 R. We'll see what comes of it. Might just trade it in. I'm hopeful. Hopefully the looks and sound supersede the 10th gen.
It's looking more like an Accord and is getting bigger...RIP Honda Civic.
Where the absolute hell did you get the type r tranny in the Si?! This is an l15b7. Not a k20c. 2 ENTIRELY different platforms. Stop. L15b7 is a terrible, terrible transmission without upgraded synchros.
"Beautiful car"... you mean more GENERIC car 🙄
I'd love an Si but the no hatch kills it for me.
Exhaust tips are perfect! I really hate those oversized and squared (aaaand fake!) ones in lots of new cars...
WVish looking design. I like mine 10th gen Si better. Not only exterior but interior also. I don’t like that entertainment screen “new trend” sticking out of the dash
Don’t knock it for being what it is a Accivic, Accivic Si, Accivic Type R 😂. I’m passing…tho I want to see what the Accord 2022 and Integra 2023 going to be. But I’m hitting on the Integra than this myself…is it bad that I only seen one since this car came out 😆 🤦🏾♂️. The color is nice but Nissan had that color too for Maximas.
Damn it's almost like brands don't have design language so that tge line up looks unified.
@@ii_dynasty I just think who like Accords over Civics made this decision 😂.
@@da-rellc.8529 the Accord and Civic are in two different classes, and back in 2016 both cars came out with a similar design. Everyone who complains about the 2022 looking little a accord is a hypocrite.
@@ii_dynasty the bumper says Accord and those big arse tail lights are like or similar but they close to a Jetta or etc. Headlight are ugg…to each is own on this one. Sorry not sorry 😂 and I own a 2016 Tourning and still love it 🥰
@@da-rellc.8529 the Accord has generally looked better up till now, but it's clear as day that your bias towards the 10th gen. The 2016 has a ugly front and rear bumper there's no denying that, it's the hatchback front-end that saves the car but besides that I rather have the 2015 civic over the 2016 and 2022 just brings back the clean look.
Maybe you should have compared a Civic Sport, it's worst Si civic ever
I bought a 10th-gen Civic due to the aggressiveness in the design. It is a beautiful vehicle that stands out with a great design against other dull entry-level sedans. The 11th-gen lost this, there's nothing making it stand out anymore.