The 2022 Honda Civic Si Is A Type R Lite For Budget Minded Enthusiasts
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- The #HondaCivicSi has had a very long 35 year history in America and for 2022, the new #CivicSi borrows a lot of tuning and suspension parts from its more hardcore brother the #CivicTypeR. While the new #Si doesn't have as much power as the #TypeR, #Honda has finally given it the handling and precision to make it feel more special than a regular #HondaCivic Sport.
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Really surprised by the way the new Civic Si drives. The old one felt like a slightly faster Civic Sport trim, while this one feels more like a Type R minus 100 HP. Gets us pumped for the reveal and drive of the next-generation Civic Type R next year!
I see those gains bro! 💪.... So should I hold out and spend the extra money on the Hyundai Elantra N? Or save the extra cash and stick with Honda?
@@ryanhughes4350 Excellent question. Ignoring dealer markups, do you go for this at $27.5K USD or for the Elantra N (we don't know pricing on that yet, bet let's estimate maybe $32.5K)? Is it worth another ~$5K for 75 more HP, heated seats, bigger brakes, adjustable suspension and a fully digital dash?
@@matthewfuller1129 I'm also in Canada....if you do a quick Google search you will see that the Canadian version gets heated seats, fog lights, wireless charging, parking assist and a fully digital display. Also....its cheaper. 26,180 usd. So it makes the decision even harder ! Lol thanks for your input!
The Canadian civic si has all the features that are missing on the us version including led fog lights, hearted seats front and rear, led turn signals on mirror and wires charging etc. Sucks for US customers but awesome for Canadian
Love it, and I’m ready to buy, but I’m going to hold out to see what the Integra offers and if those added features will be worth it to me for the price difference.
The canadian SI offers heated seats, heated steering wheel, fog lights, full digital display, side-mirror blinkers, and wireless charging....all for less money. This Si is really stripped down. Does Honda think Americans are dumb?
Yes
Shame on Honda USA
Also integrated Navigation
They dont think, they know
Because in the US, some people don’t need heated seats, heated steering wheel, fog lights seems mostly useless, Hyundai even got rid of the fog light completely. Also, I believe US version does have Wireless charger.
I like how at 3:52 we just casually see a Si flying by lol
Might have been Raiti’s ride
Glad I’m not the only one that was like um….nice lol
The quality of redline review videos has come a long way. These videos are all perfect especially the camera angles that show off car design and features.
I'm not a fan of the intro music that competes with his voice.
So we lost several features for no apparent reason while also increasing the price significantly. No heated seats, no dual-zone climate control, no fog lights. Sure it has more performance-oriented upgrades, which is nice, but you're not supposed to take away basic features from a car from generation to generation, especially given how amazing the competition is right now (looking at you Koreans).
I wonder if that has to do with the chip shortage?
@@chigasaki06 Canadian model has them though.
Yep, Canadian version has all those and more for less money after currency conversion.
@@John-vh1fk it may seem cheaper, but there are more expensive unspoken fees; the destination fee is like $1800 and 13% tax on the vehicle to top it off
Canada got the features in their civic SI. So I'm wondering if they're saving these things for the refresh.
The interior has come a long way from my first FA5. Really digging the new gen civic. Excited to see how the Type R will look. Awaiting the mach e performance video, Sofyan and Rob!
I’ve watched a lot of SI reviews. This was probably the best overall one so far. Very to the point and informative. Thank you.
Always good quality coverage - should do a match up with all previous si models - b16 vs k20 vs k24 vs 1.5T - in the canyons and on the tracks.
Thanks for the review, keep up the great work. You have some of the best car reviews on youtube.
Thank you for not having the cringe fake laugh from Raiti's Rides. Both of you guys drove on a similar road. Dude treated the car like he was in a Mc Claren.
Nice car. Drove nice. But when dealerships want $7500 over sticker this is no longer a budget minded car.
My local Honda is asking 40 grand for this car.
The removal of heated seats is a big, deal-breaking flub; I'll wait for the 2023 where they inevitably fix that mistake.
More like 2025 when they have a refresh >.
I wouldn’t count on it
@@brandonmoreno2342 I mean, it works both ways.
I really like everything about the new generation of civics except the back end of the sedan. The tail light could belong to a dozen other cars. I much prefer the taillights on the hatchback
Yes, taillights look very Audi/ Volkswagen ish
These videos are so entertaining they always make my day better🎄
Omg mr beast gib me a hamburger
Do you also give away money ? Lol
I thought this was Mr. Beast at first 😭
Not another fucking bot
Love my 23 Si. Wouldn’t buy a car without watching your review first. Been subscribed to your for years, and completely trust your opinions on cars. Love everything about this car. Coming from a coyote mustang, you think I’d miss the power. But the handling, gas mileage, and practicality are amazing. Plus it’s a blast to drive. Flawless manual transmission!
Heated front seats and power ports should be standard on every car.
For some reason the Canadian version gets heated seats, wireless charger, digital dash, and dual zone climate and even costs less than the US spec somehow. I will never understand Honda.
maybe on cars sold to millenials...the rest of us are hearty enough folk to not need that stuff or the extra cost from it.
@@michaelfried3123 ill take a barebone car if it shaved some weight and $$
@@tonychau1983 get a veloster n then
@@mervunit not into the 3 door. Only car i might be interested from hyundai would be the i30
Your videos are getting better and better. Very professional.
I currently own a 2022 Honda Civic SI, and I do want to mention that, upon changing each drive mode (Normal, Sport, or Individual) yourinfotainment system and small digital tach will always have a background change 12:20. Meaning, if you're on Apple Carplay mapso or whatever, and you change the drive mode, it will literally change the whole screen to the background for like 3-5 seconds.
What was the dealer mark up if you don't mind me asking?
@@mattsmith4063 All dealers are different, but the one I got it marked it up for 5k
@@marcj.d 5K above Msrp?
@@tyty0071 Yeah, but I heard some dealers are throwing additional add-on accessories that aren’t even needed. So, starting for most of the SI’s are 27k-28k and get marked up for 5k plus those bs add-ons that dealers throw. Making it up to 40k-41k.
@@marcj.d that's insane pricing, sorry but no thanks, should never pay above Msrp.
30 years ago I had a 1986 Honda Civic Si, starting my love affair for Honda. I've had 7 Honda automobiles over the years. Sadly, for me the cars just don't seem to have "it" anymore. I was very interested in the previous Civic Si and test drove it. I returned to the dealer immediately asking them if the car was broken? The engine would rev hang. The salesman said no, that's "normal" and for emission purposes. OK, here are the keys, I'm not interested. I bought a 2017 Accord Coupe V6 instead and this will be the last Honda I ever buy. I daily a 2012 and 2017 Accord Coupe V6. The 2012 at my Az home and the 2017 for Chicagoland. After the quality issues I've endured with these cars in order to have cars I find attractive, Honda sold me a Lexus for my next car. Love affairs, sadly, tend to come to an end in disappointment.
My first was 85 CRX and then I bought 1998 DX Hatch and 2000 EX-G. Even RSX Type-S couldn't compete with the dynamics of my tuned 98 DX Hatch, so I vacationed from Honda until my current 2017 LX Sedan 6MT. No reviews on this model (and still no reviews) but I was pleasantly surprised. I was hoping that Honda would play on this base model, since it checks all the boxes. 11th Type-R is a potential, but it's not going to be as fun as my current Sedan on the streets (helps when you can be a hooligan, but still burn like an economy car). Like you, this may be my last Honda.
First video of yours I've watched. Really great content! Never knew what SI stood for so thanks for that
I think what isn’t being talked about as much is the fact that this is larger and still weighs under 3k pounds which is really impressive for a 4 door sedan in this day and age
I have a feeling the weight combined with the better torque curve this feels much better than the last SI
@hon solo I really disagree with this, If Hondata did the dyno then that means they used Church Automotive’s dyno.
It is beyond the highest reading dyno currently.
Look it up
@hon solo no not the type r they making space for the integra
Did the last SI have plastic on the upper part of the door? I know it’s a small complaint but the soft touch is so nice.
@@blarghman332 it was a combination but you can tell how they were able too keep the weight down with some of the materials used
11th generation is slower than the 10th generation according to both Car and Driver and Motor Trend. Significantly slower.
You always do a really in-depth review. Thanks
Great review boys! This new Si is super sweet, capable and understated handsome. I love it!
Kinda sound naturally aspirated in that outside pull. The did a real good job to me. 💪🏾🔥
Great review. So far you are the only one who showed no spare tire and Honda recommends premium fuel.
I can't believe they no longer come with heated seats. Furthermore, the Canadian version comes with heated seats, wireless phone charger, integrated mirror turn signals, fog lights, and many other features for LESS MONEY (when converted to USD). Such b.s.
It’s not less money if you add our taxes 13% HST and PDI in Canada is $1800. It’s actually more expensive than the US version
Hella BS. Going to Pass. Toyota need to hurry up with that Corolla GR
@@f181234 Only 5% sales tax here in Canada. Must be on Ontario lol
It's nowhere near less money.
This has been the best video I have watched so far on the si 👍
Ah the Civic Si. Stuck at 200hp for the last 15 years.
Yup , the price unfortunately isnt stuck at the same number for 15 years...... Slower than the last with less standard features....
The 11G just dyno'ed 20 more hp than the 10G
@@TheBreakfastLover and yet is slower..... maybe the dyno is a little generous like they always are on new cars the japanese launch.
Ah, and still selling very very well. Ah, and super reliable for the last 15 years, too
@@disco.lemonade every car made in the last 15 years has been reliable.
15:47 thought he was gonna spill his coffee ☕️😅
Boy how I miss the 90s Hondas
Having driven both now do you prefer this or the Elantra N
Thanks for this video. I have a 10th gen Tuned to 240 horses. I dont think that I will upgrade yet. I may wait for the refresh (I need heated seats) or the integra.
It’s cool that they’re bringing back old colors. Blaze Orange Metallic I believe was first seen on the 05-06 Acura RSX.
Great review, Sofyan! But no heated seats!? That’ll be a deal killer for many of us who drive these though winters.
Really good Review I cant wait to see a Video or Documental with all the 11th generations.
First video of yours I've seen. Loved it! Should have realized long ago that Si stands for Sport Injected.
Definitely looking forward to driving this one! I was not super impressed with the 10th gen SI, but the 2022 Civic Sport Touring was pretty great. The SI seats, the new SI shifter, and all the performance updates, this really seems like a very solid update!
Love your review as always...Next time at the stop sign where you found the straight road, make your first right onto Little Sycamore Canyon (I believe you were on Little Sycamore Canyon for a little bit from what I saw) which turns into Yerba Buena Road, its even better IMO than Westlake Blvd, (23) or Decker Canyon:)
Great review! I'm seriously considering this for my next vehicle.
21:07 that was where all the fun was in my 07 Civic SI Sedan. I bought it new and it took me a couple days to figure out I got to beat the shit out of it to have any fun 😅 the revs were definitely addictive.
This guy is so thorough with his reviews.👊🏼🌎😎
Canadian version cost less and has all the features not mention here!
Toretto!!! SWAT came into my house! Disrespected my family!
Looks extremely better than the past model. 👍👍👍
I thought the new design wasn't going to be good for them, but I actually like this new gen. Great comparison points and review as always! I wonder if they'll eventually get a hybrid or AWD version with this gen.
The Canadian version Gets fog lights wireless charging heat seats And shift Tech lighting. 😡😡😭😭 not us
Very nice, comprehensive review. Thank you.
Sounds fantastic, looks good, interior is a home run, shifter seems great, rev matching is nice. I like everything except the power output.
The dyno test proves that they’re underrating it. It put down 220 hp.
@@devn3813 reviewers are struggling to get a 0-60 in under 7 seconds. Most likely 7.5 to 8 seconds.
I love it... once you turn up the boost a few psi it will be even better. Beautiful car!!
Great video on a cool car. Your cinematography is superb as usually with great motion and drone (I assume ) shots. I don’t think you used a crane? However I’m viewing on my 2019 iPad Pro with 120hz refresh display, and I’m getting a weird “judder” effect on your slow motion shots like pans and slow camera movement. I don’t know if it’s my device doing this, or your video render/mastering introduced the judder.
How do you think this compares to the new Elantra N? Is it much closer to a Type R?
Great review as always! It’s pretty disappointing that it has less power than our crv hybrid come on Honda!
That CRV is like 500 pounds more heavier
It's already been dyno and has 20 hp more than 10th gen.
@@reesee175 proof where..?
@@YawmSaub Look at the peak HP on the green line.
th-cam.com/video/ZEADsisy0AA/w-d-xo.html
Nice review! What kind of device r u using to calculate 0-60?
Great review guys.👊🏽👏🏽
Just an FYI, the drive mode selector does not adjust the suspension. The 11G Si does not offer adjustable dampers anymore unlike the 10G.
Journalists these days rarely learn what they are talking about prior to "reviewing ". This entire review is opinion..... as most are . Same goes for video game reviews and most everything else.
Oooooh 200 hp…my Grandma is almost interested…
The interior is on point though.
It definitely looks more nicer and refined than the previous Gen model. However 0 to 60 I was hoping for about 6 sec flat
Great review. I can’t wait to take one for a spin myself.
Blazing Orange Metallic looks great on this Civic Si ... Not a fan of black wheels on ANY type vehicle ... Long overdue for interior design team to integrate the media/control screen into the dash itself - looks like an afterthought like this .... Slainte' ! Cheers !
That 1.5 liter with those specs is an absolute deal breaker. Way overpriced.
@hon solo hondata lied.
21:59 Ah yes, Soyfan has never been known for his great shifting. Great reviews though!
200 HP, 192 TQ, Mazda, Hyundai and Kia are looking better and better…
Hyundai Elantra N 💯 rather have that than the new SI…
Just don’t romp em too hard!
Camry XSE naturally aspirated has 206 hp lol
@@crazyracer7539 301 ho with the six.
Drinks like mad, though
@@davevolz6138 yup thats why I bought naturally aspirated 4 cylinder and I get that instant acceleration compared to these turbo engines.
Love the sound! Can’t wait to see the Type R.
Always great reviews! The new Si looks great and that interior 😍
Looks like MotorTrend only got a 0-60mph time of 7.1 secs and a 1/4 mile time of 15.3 secs at 93mph. Right in line with Rob's time.
I love when Sofyan says redline. Like dude that’s the channel name! 👉🏽
Looking at the performance stats I've seen for the 10th gen vs the new Si, there seems like there is little difference despite what you feel. One test I saw claimed a 0-60 of 7.3 secs vs 6.8 for the 10th gen. I suppose we will see more tests in the future that will clarify the difference it any.
Love the cloth seats! I feel the Volkswagen Golf R should have a cloth seat option.
Great review . I like the way it sounds compared to the outgoing , and I love the new look . Can’t wait to see the type r . I’m pretty sure once broken in it will get closer to that 0 to 60 number .
@RedlineReviews Are you expecting the same engine specs on the upcoming Integra or will Acura slightly tune up the base Integra? What are the expectations for the auto transmission that will owe used in the Integra?
I'm still rocking my 2013 ILX 2.4 just like your old one. How did this compare to your old ILX?
Which rides better and has a less stiff ride a 2021 Si with active dampers or the 2022 Si?
so the Canadian Civic Si comes with fog lights and heated seats. Does it make the US model less attractive?
In general Honda/Acura's in Canada always had more features than their US counterparts.
Pretty much, hopefully Honda will fix that soon. Fog lights, heated seats, and a wireless phone charger would have been nice.
@@theredline I’m guessing Honda is saving these features for the Acura Integra.
I love the car don’t get me wrong. But I am super curious to see this and the new Elantra n compare. And I’m comparing because I’m assuming these are more close in price.
which civc has the lowest premium / markup during these times ? si , type r or regular civic or sports
I’m curious what your thoughts are on driving dynamics in this, in comparison to the new Gti s (6-speed). I take a new si for a test drive soon. Anyway, great review!
Great content as always
Thanks for the review! Do you remember if there's a map pocket behind the passenger seat?
Civics are always really reliable cars. To get a package that has performance and the reliability is awesome! Don’t know about budget R though. Those things are mad epic.
The older civics were faster than 8 seconds to 60 and were more reliable.
@@Spiritcr1jsher the EPA won't allow Honda to make high revving engines anymore
@@9Epicman yeah i know sucks.
@@Spiritcr1jsher so is this
@@Spiritcr1jsher 7 seconds bud, and theres room for error these guys are not professional drivers
I’ve been waiting for your thoughts on this 😎
Will this engine have oil dilution problems? Good to hear the rev hang is much less.
God I love the Si! Thanks for the laughs.how can I be apart of these honda test drives and taking them home for a week???
The Canadian spec of this Si seems to be the best enthusiast bargain with all the bell and whistles for 2023.
Will become a Fortunato member of the 11th gen Si crew by this time next week.. in the long sought after Sonic Grey Pearl too.
Which would you choose between this and the 2022 Hyundai Elantra N-line?
Was that 0-60 with or without 1ft rollout? Thank you
This generation of the civic looks good in bolder colors
The Canadian Civic SI has all kinds of upgraded features that we don’t get in the US. It comes with heated front and rear seats, heated steering wheel, fog lights, turn signals in the side mirrors and even a phone charging pad. Items I would love to have in the US.
Canadian version also costs quite a bit more. They're not getting all those features for free.
Love it, just wish the screen would retract into the dash.
Can I still use regular gas? Where I live it’s hard to get 91oct
if this car was $23K it would be great....
The price will have both 2 and 3 in it. Just move your number around)
Dude I can't imageine paying over 28k for an Si, I've loved Hondas since the 90s and the pricing on this one is nuts to me.
@@TheScootibum the pricing on everything is crazy now because of shortage and therefore inflation
@@TheScootibum dude the world is crazy now. People paying 50k for kias now
I'll buy the Canadian version cheaper and packed with more stuff like standard foglights, speedometer ,parking sensors, led mirrors, heated seats, home link and some other stuff..
I was about to order. once I saw no heated seats or fog lights..... its off my list
@@cordellroberson532 here's more info
th-cam.com/video/HrZ3b0dgzac/w-d-xo.html
Would you recommend the new si as a daily driver over the new 6 speed touring hatch ?
I’m considering touring 6MT. Has heated seats etc
19:55 "The clutch is lighter, I didn't stall the car, but..."
Rob's face tells a different story :-)
0-60 downhill vs 0-60 uphill, thanks a lot!
Does the Canadian version get the Bose system? I’m just trying to figure out how the Canadian version is cheaper BUT Honda gave them heated seats front and rear, digital dash, wireless charging, dual zone climate, etc… for LESS MONEY!
I know it slows the 0-60 time but I like that you have to shift to 3rd. My MK7 is really not that fun getting on the highway when you can just leave it in second the whole time on the on-ramp.
Conversion ratio between USD and Canadian Dollar, also, all Civic models are cheaper in Canada after conversation.
Yet the Canadian SI version has full digital cluster and heated front/rear seats plus heated steering wheel for a lower price. Why does Honda treat US buyers like this? I won’t consider an SI until Honda gets their 💩 together
It's not just Honda, it's literally all of the Automakers. GM and Ford won't produce anything but shitbox trucks for us, but will sell nice cars to the Chinese. The German companies charge us an extra 10-11% after accounting for the CAD to USD exchange rates while also screwing us of basic niceties such as the correct steering wheel for the damn car (Audi, looking at you). And then there's Honda, which screws us of entire bodystyles so they can sell an up-market version of the same car for their crappy US-focused pseudo-luxury marque and do shit like this because they think we'll balk at an extra $500 on a car we're all going to finance over 60 months anyway.
Because they know people in the us will still buy mediocre products .
It's 33K in Canada.
@@dcb1728 $33k Canadian, not US. I. The US this car is $27,900 USD, Canada is $$26,900 with all that extra equipment and even LED turn signals which the US doesn’t have. The Type R has had extra equipment for Canadians since 2017 at a much lower price.
Shifting to 3rd for 60mph is such a good thing … one of the best things … everyone complains about the GT4 and how you can only shift once before speeding even at highway limits. Can’t have both :)
If you were buying a commuter would you say this or the six-speed sport touring?
i have a 2016 EX-T, and i have remote start and heated seats. the fact that this is a 2022 model and doesn’t have those things, is a deal breaker. anyone living in cold weather, imo is a must
LOVE LOVE the new interior!
Going to hold out and drive the Elantra N. just can’t pass up on what looks to be a better all around weekend toy.
@Kay Bee it’s going to be closer to $41k here in Canada vs $34k for the Civic SI. I just think Honda could do so much more with this car- better brakes, more than 10 additional HP over the Touring? Yeah, I get the power band and such, but still? There is allot of car with the N; adaptive dampers, that exhaust pop alone is worth additional $$