Hi. Terra 4k is a very interesting camera. Can you do a test on high ISO, a test of a rolling shutter and high-speed shooting? And maybe you can share the source? Thank you.
Great video & explanations. Love the idea of electronic ND filters. Would like to see IBIS of the sensor (I know not everyone needs this, but some solo shooters would welcome it). Can the LCD panel be viewed outside in strong daylight? I would like to know how it performs in low-light! Would like Kinefinity to develop their own EVF for ‘run-n-gun’ shooters, as other manufacturers‘ versions tend to be very expensive (e.g. $\€2K+). Thanks for posting.
Have you tried to use crop sensor lenses like the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 or the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 with the KineEnhancer? Would love to know if it works without vignetting!
The Terra sensor is 10.3x19.5 mm in DCI4K and 10.3x18.3 mm in UHD. With the KineEnhancer the sensor will behave as 14.30x27.04 mm in DCI4K and as 14.30x25.40 mm in UHD while gaining approximately 0.93 stops. Hope that helps giving you an idea about which non-Full Frame lens might be compatible with KineEnhancer.
Can the monitor be mounted to the side of the camera or any other way other than on top of the camera like that? Also are the mount adapters active and how accessible are the more common run & gun settings like white balance, shutter, iris?
sure there are many ways to mount the monitor to the side of the camera, so you can use it in a standard shoulder rig setup. The mount adapters are active, only for iris control though. Run 'n gunning is totally possible with Terra. The three settings you mention are all available via the multi functional joystick/wheel and can be changed within seconds.
yes, with the final version of the E-mount you can change the aperture via the camera, if the lens is supported. The one you see in the video is just a prototype without the electronics.
Hi! Does the monitor have all the essential features like peaking, false colour, waveforms, etc.? And regarding the mounts, they also do a Nikon mount (including SpeedBooster and built in ND)
The monitor does have peaking and falser colour. Waveforms are built-in to the camera's video output. Nikon mount exists with KineEnhancer (Speedbooster) and standard.
The only thing I don't like about their cameras is that you have to transcode the raw in order to edit it. At least the files are small for raw though.
Yes, that's a little annoying at the moment, BUT: A) the transcoding can be done at the same time as the footage is copied to your workstation, it takes just a little longer, but no extra step. And B) Imho it's just a matter of time before the big names in the editing and grading software world will implement KRW into their software.
Thanks a lot for this informative video! I'm planning to buy one. I heard that with any of the canon mounting adapter available there is no way to use image stabilization from the lenses, is it true?
Thanks for your answer! I hope there will be in the future (maybe with a new firmware) but that's not too much relevant, this camera still a hidden gem.
KineMonitor has a 320 to 340 milliseconds lag. Kinefinity claims 100 to 200 ms but I haven't had that luck with my camera in the 2 weeks I have tested it. I'll be honest, if it was 100 ms I wouldn't be complaining at all as I think =
No bottom door, but honestly it is not needed. The sliding lock mechanism is pretty safe and sturdy to keep the battery in place. I have to admit the KineGrip is well designed and well made. Just hope the rubber skin stays in place after years of use 😉👍🏻
the one you see in the video is just a prototype, in the close up shots (7:08) you can see that there are cutouts for the electronic connectors that will connect the lens to the camera. Like this the Iris of the lens can be controlled through the camera, same as with the current active EF and PL mounts. I'm not sure if it will support auto focus or image stabilisation.
Awesome, thank you so much for taking time to respond and putting up videos. I have the 6k Terra and rarely see info on the parts/ options that are clear as your work.
This is a great camera! Great specs, great possibilities. But sorry i have to say: It´s looking like they wanted to make a RED camera and sell it for 5 dollars.
Assuming you refer to audio 3.5mm input, if so then yes... Haven't tested the quality of sound though... Needless to say every cam I have owned had poor in-camera audio... That's what the KineBack is for, or, a separate audio unit.
Interesting, but for the price you pay for a stocked-up Terra, you can now pick up a used Red Epic Dragon with pretty much all the accessories on eBay.
Not accurate. Red Epics are going for 15K kitted out. 4K Terra kitted out is 7K. Not a bad price for the Epic, but if you're a small company and you have 15K, I'd rather have 2 cameras for that price. Of course we gotta wait and see how these thing hold up lol
As for eBay, I guess you have to catch a good deal, but that's why we ebay. Their current packages are 15K. As for the Terra, the Pro Package is currently $6,999 on their website. But, yea I would definitely buy that Epic package over the Terra for 7K.
It's a great b camera, but I am just not a fan of that creme/pastel color space and rolling shutter -- also haven't really seen any impressive anamorphic videos from it yet.
Im definetly getting those gloves when I get this camera.
forget the camera, i'm just getting the gloves :)))
And they say porn is not allowed on TH-cam !
Thank you for a very well done part I. Awaiting part II.
I want to use canon 600mm is ii f4 lens on terra 4k can i change aperture like f4 to f5.6 or f9 or f11
Can i change the aperture
could you test the sensor in low light condition ? do you have fixed pattern noise problems ? how is the sensor holding compare to a DSLR ? thanks
I love that you used the music from Kubrick's 'Barry Lyndon' - a nod to classic film-making..:D (subscribed...not just for that reason though..;) )
Can you use your Micro 4/3 Lenses on this camera and what mount would have to be configured??
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Hi. Terra 4k is a very interesting camera. Can you do a test on high ISO, a test of a rolling shutter and high-speed shooting? And maybe you can share the source? Thank you.
Great suggestions, I'll do my best to do at least one of these tests before the new year.
thank you
Thanks for this video!! Great job!!
Thank you for doing this...
Great video & explanations. Love the idea of electronic ND filters. Would like to see IBIS of the sensor (I know not everyone needs this, but some solo shooters would welcome it). Can the LCD panel be viewed outside in strong daylight? I would like to know how it performs in low-light! Would like Kinefinity to develop their own EVF for ‘run-n-gun’ shooters, as other manufacturers‘ versions tend to be very expensive (e.g. $\€2K+). Thanks for posting.
Gotta love that ASMR intro xD
How long does it take the camera to wake up from sleep mode?
Great. We learned a lot.
Have you tried to use crop sensor lenses like the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 or the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 with the KineEnhancer? Would love to know if it works without vignetting!
The Terra sensor is 10.3x19.5 mm in DCI4K and 10.3x18.3 mm in UHD. With the KineEnhancer the sensor will behave as 14.30x27.04 mm in DCI4K and as 14.30x25.40 mm in UHD while gaining approximately 0.93 stops. Hope that helps giving you an idea about which non-Full Frame lens might be compatible with KineEnhancer.
is the kineback necessary for filming or can i use it without it? can you use v-tap without it?
Kineback is not necessary for filming, the camera can operate with only the sidegrip. If you power it via it's DC input it can used without sigegrip.
want to see all slow motion features
Can the monitor be mounted to the side of the camera or any other way other than on top of the camera like that? Also are the mount adapters active and how accessible are the more common run & gun settings like white balance, shutter, iris?
sure there are many ways to mount the monitor to the side of the camera, so you can use it in a standard shoulder rig setup. The mount adapters are active, only for iris control though. Run 'n gunning is totally possible with Terra. The three settings you mention are all available via the multi functional joystick/wheel and can be changed within seconds.
Other than a Kine Mag, what other SSD's have you used? Looks like a Samsung EVO on this video, correct????
yes, Samsung EVO generally work fine.
How's the E-Mount adapter with the Sony 24-70 f/4? Can you change the aperture via camera?
yes, with the final version of the E-mount you can change the aperture via the camera, if the lens is supported. The one you see in the video is just a prototype without the electronics.
is there a Part 2 ..??..
Sehr informatives Video!
Hi! Does the monitor have all the essential features like peaking, false colour, waveforms, etc.? And regarding the mounts, they also do a Nikon mount (including SpeedBooster and built in ND)
The monitor does have peaking and falser colour. Waveforms are built-in to the camera's video output. Nikon mount exists with KineEnhancer (Speedbooster) and standard.
How are you using the Sony lens @ 2:45 when it is a focus by wire lens and there are no pin connections?
it's just for demonstration. The E-mount adapter in this video is a prototype. It can only be used with manual lenses.
So this or a GH5 10bit 4k in vlog?
The only thing I don't like about their cameras is that you have to transcode the raw in order to edit it. At least the files are small for raw though.
Yes, that's a little annoying at the moment, BUT: A) the transcoding can be done at the same time as the footage is copied to your workstation, it takes just a little longer, but no extra step. And B) Imho it's just a matter of time before the big names in the editing and grading software world will implement KRW into their software.
When you use the e-mount adapter can you focus the lens/control aperture?
You can control aperture with compatible lenses. Autofocus is not supported.
Can you upload some original footage from terra 4K? I'm really intrested in looking to different framerates prores clips
dude can u make few sample footage and share.. loving this camera !!!
just search on youtube "Terra 4K footage" or look into the facebook group: facebook.com/groups/kinefinity/
lots of footages available
Thanks a lot for this informative video! I'm planning to buy one. I heard that with any of the canon mounting adapter available there is no way to use image stabilization from the lenses, is it true?
Thanks for your feedback. At the moment there is no IS function.
Thanks for your answer! I hope there will be in the future (maybe with a new firmware) but that's not too much relevant, this camera still a hidden gem.
How's the lag on the SDI outputs? Is there also lag on the kinemon? Can you post a video showing this? tnx
KineMonitor has a 320 to 340 milliseconds lag. Kinefinity claims 100 to 200 ms but I haven't had that luck with my camera in the 2 weeks I have tested it. I'll be honest, if it was 100 ms I wouldn't be complaining at all as I think =
Is there a bottom cover for the battery in the grip?
No bottom door, but honestly it is not needed. The sliding lock mechanism is pretty safe and sturdy to keep the battery in place. I have to admit the KineGrip is well designed and well made. Just hope the rubber skin stays in place after years of use 😉👍🏻
HI! thank you for the video! I was wondering if you could tell me how the Sony-E mount works? Like can you focus the lenses?
the one you see in the video is just a prototype, in the close up shots (7:08) you can see that there are cutouts for the electronic connectors that will connect the lens to the camera. Like this the Iris of the lens can be controlled through the camera, same as with the current active EF and PL mounts. I'm not sure if it will support auto focus or image stabilisation.
Awesome, thank you so much for taking time to respond and putting up videos. I have the 6k Terra and rarely see info on the parts/ options that are clear as your work.
This is a great camera! Great specs, great possibilities.
But sorry i have to say: It´s looking like they wanted to make a RED camera and sell it for 5 dollars.
The sensor is tiny, to small for me for a cinema like camera. It kills the bokeh. And it looks a bit cheap the hole camera.
Does it have a 3.5mm input on the body?
Assuming you refer to audio 3.5mm input, if so then yes... Haven't tested the quality of sound though... Needless to say every cam I have owned had poor in-camera audio... That's what the KineBack is for, or, a separate audio unit.
Would Love To See More Footage =)
Check Rum Punch Films, he has cool stuff posted on his channel!
Is the E-Mount an active mount?
Doesn't look like it, no pins.
why there is black video in last 20 seconds?
a mistake must have slipped in during the editing. The video should end before, I have re-trimmed it in TH-cam.
So no Nikon mount, uh?
Start up boot time about the same as a RED Epic-W :(
part2?
I'm waiting for the new firmware update which will be released in March, according to Kinefinity. So make sure to stick around;)
Interesting, but for the price you pay for a stocked-up Terra, you can now pick up a used Red Epic Dragon with pretty much all the accessories on eBay.
Not accurate. Red Epics are going for 15K kitted out. 4K Terra kitted out is 7K. Not a bad price for the Epic, but if you're a small company and you have 15K, I'd rather have 2 cameras for that price. Of course we gotta wait and see how these thing hold up lol
As for eBay, I guess you have to catch a good deal, but that's why we ebay. Their current packages are 15K. As for the Terra, the Pro Package is currently $6,999 on their website. But, yea I would definitely buy that Epic package over the Terra for 7K.
It's a great b camera, but I am just not a fan of that creme/pastel color space and rolling shutter -- also haven't really seen any impressive anamorphic videos from it yet.
In convince that people who are obsessed with how the sounds of cameras or creeps
where is part 2 ?
we save Part 2 for after the release of the new firmware.
good idea
Dollar for dollar I think Kinefinity makes the best video image in the world.
With those gloves it's clear that you knew the pandemic was coming. How did you know?
Proprietary came up way too many times
Hhahaha YES! Who cares about the specs, we need clicky buttons.
This sounds like a sponsored video...
Hahaha the moment, when your come from Germany xD
seems clunky
what? made in China uuuff forget it,
Dont forget that DJI is a China company, the Chinese are great too remember that