Kinefinity Terra 4k Review
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- After several months of testing here's my full review of the Kinefinity TERRA 4K. I wrote more about the camera here:
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The camera was tested here in New York as well as in Norway and France. Special thanks to all the friends and collaborators who helped make this video possible.
Lots of different lenses since there are so many shoots and locations. My base set is 5 Leica R primes ranging from 28-135mm so those are in a lot of scenes - the little girl with the markers was definitely the 28mm, but I can't remember every shot. One of the Norway days I borrowed my friend's Sigma 18-35mm Art. The Bladerunner looking stuff in the office was on a 24-70mm Canon L, The stuff at night with the cars in the rain was a Pentax 50mm f/1.4 Super Takumar, and the shot of the model with the chart and OLPF flare were on a Zeiss CP2 50mm cine prime.
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This is pretty much the best review ever of a camera. I understand how many creators want to be the first ones to get a review out but real use of the camera at many locations and settings is so much better. Thank you for taking so much time to create one of the best reviews ever.
Thanks for watching! I worked really hard on it. Glad it didn't go unnoticed.
Well done and thank you!!
This review is a piece of art in itself. A testament that the maker is more important than the tool.
Images are looking nice - Only thing I would worry about is clients saying "WTF is that Camera" I bought a Canon 1DC way back and though the image was terrific, the investment was a total failure.
Thanks for the kind words, Franz. I agree. It's important (but difficult!) to find clients who are hiring you for your eye and not for whatever piece of gear you have.
I don't know that I'd be worried about what clients think. First and foremost, at least personally, the clients that are hiring me for their corporate projects don't know and aren't looking at what I'm shooting with. Their money is going towards the end product right? So whether I show up on set with a RED, Arri, Gh5 or Kinefinity, they just care that they get a great film for their product, brand, business, etc. I think that this is a camera that not many people know about or are familiar with like Canon, Sony, etc. but I think the imagery stands with those giants like Arri, Red, Sony, Panasonic to where the client will be like, "I don't know that name, but damn it produces great imagery."
This is my favorite review of any camera I've seen on the internet. I continually revisit this video (mini-doc) and am humbled by how well you crafted it. "Engaging" is an understatement. Seriously looking forward to more coming from your perspective sense of humor.
Thank you, Raafi.
Wow, thank you for this message Collin. I think of this as one of my best "films" even though it's "only" a review. It is a review, however, and I'm proud of it. I was lucky to have some personal and professional travel that enabled me to capture such varied footage for this. I'm working on a project that involves more storytelling and travel now and hope to start getting some of those pieces on the web in the coming weeks.
here's the piece I went to France to film, btw - the first half of it was shot around when I made this review and the second half was from a second trip several months later: vimeo.com/379131606
@@RaafiRivero Loved it.
I find myself coming back to this video and watching it over again just because it is so well made. The footage is beautiful and the way it is cut together is so interesting. Kind of a work of art in itself. I will definitely be checking out your film that you mention at the end. Great work!!
Fantastic camera review, best one I've ever seen. The non-concrete quality you are talking about for camera images is what you have endowed your review with. I loved the editing and sound. Music was much more unique than simple ambient scores.
In other words, GREAT work!
Thanks, Jack! It really IS hard to talk about the qualities of a camera when there's no way to measure the things we most often want to talk about. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend you watch Steven Yedlin's Display Prep Demo - yedlin.net/DisplayPrepDemo/ - in it he makes the argument that none of these cameras have an inherent look, and that we merely need to know how to manipulate the data, which is somewhat counter to what I'm saying but his argument and the footage demonstrating it are a compelling counter.
Interesting! I can see that technically being true, but it certainly doesn't feel like it aesthetically. I'll check it out!
it's funny, the day after my initial comment I watched Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Director of Photogaphy? Steve Yedlin.
Just got around to watching it. It was really cool, very interesting. I think one main point he brought up was very important: he said "if the camera captures enough information." On the lower end, I think we are much more limited to what kind of images we can produce (i.e. DSLRs, 8-bit, etc). Once we start dabbling with RAW images, I think what he says makes a really compelling argument!
Thanks for an amazing and honest review. I've always been intrigued by what Kinefinity has been able to do at such a reasonable price point. It's good to see a real cat using one in of these in the real world. There just may be one of these in my future because the images are amazing. Well done!
I watched this video like 5 times now and at the end of the month I'll finally get my own Terra 4k, Thanks for the best review ever made.
Glad to hear it and welcome to the team!
wow....i dont know how to explain. but i felt so calm and happy and sad at the same time watching the whole video....its like a beautiful drama goin on...so much art, so much colors, so much emotions and the voice....really good job..
Awesome video man. I love your style. It's good to hear your opinions in a review instead of just specs. 👌🏻
I’ve watched this video semi-obsessively about 5 times now, and the tug on my wallet gets a little stronger every time- which is probably due to your eye and talent as much as the camera. 👍😀 Thanks for putting together such a nice mix of information and aesthetics. It’s been fun to watch what you’ve been getting out of the camera- great work!
Like you said, it’s really hard to articulate these things, but it does seem to have that kind of tonal softness and sense of atmospheric depth you usually only find in Cine cams that are FAR more expensive. I’ve been agonizing over investing in a Scarlet W, but don’t quite have the client roster yet to support it, but this camera and the Mavo are lookin’ like pretty stellar alternatives.
For whatever it’s worth, I’ve been geeking out on everything you’ve put out with this camera, and have been finding a lot of inspiration and encouragement in the images you’ve been making, and the general vibe you’ve got goin’. Good stuff, man!
Thanks for this comment and thanks for watching. For a long time I've been asking myself just why I put so much effort into this review. And I think the answer is that it's to share with people like you who can really see and appreciate what (I think) I'm seeing. Glad you dig it!
+Raafi Rivero I’ll be honest- it was straight-up fevered gearhead camera lust that brought me to this video, but I ended up watching everything on your channel afterward. I always enjoy watching good work from talented people, but as I get older, I appreciate enthusiasm and generosity almost as much, of not more, than flat-out skill.
You’re capturing beautiful images, but it’s also very clear you’re stoked to share your love of filmmaking, and that’s rad.
I valued this review a ton, because it was super obvious it was coming from a guy who just genuinely digs MAKING stuff. There’s enough content on TH-cam of people trying to sell things and get likes, and this game across exactly (I think) as you intended: a dude who absolutely loves shooting, contributing something he hoped would be useful to others who get just as pumped up about film.
If people are responding well, I think it’s because you’re coming from a good place, in addition to making badass images. 👍
Yay, I am your 818th subscriber, and I'm already proud of that fact. Best review I ever saw of a camera, real use with a great eye. Going to buy this whenever I find the money (or the Mavo, whichever thing comes first). I'm a big believer in small size, but sometimes my A7s mk2 just doesnt cut it, and for the big stuff renting is fine, but for a lot of stuff it's also great to own a decent camera. Great job by making it look cinematic, that is still a lot more than just the camera...
oh definitely going to rent that movie
Thanks for saying that! Part of the review was just asking myself, "can i make a movie on this thing?" and then shooting with that in mind. Whatever the drawbacks, I think the answer to the question is pretty clear by the end of the footage. I hope people take that away.
Awesome stuff man. Thanks for giving us a real world look! Refreshing to not just have tech specs rattled off :)
Yeah, exactly. I get tired of those myself. And real-world performance and image-quality is just as important as the numbers that back them up
I was looking for kinefinity review, and what I got...is a lot more than that. You got great cinematic talents man, I enjoyed and learned a lot from this video. Thank you!
You’re welcome :)
Nice honest review with legitimate criticisms, and positives. Beautifully shot cinematic images with this camera. I think Kinefinity owes you some money.
Thanks! Screengrabbed your last sentence too, LOL
The way you tell this story infused with a camera review is amazing. This was an Excellent way for providing the tech information, Excellence Brother Excellence
Thank you!
This is possibly the best camera review I've ever seen.
Thanks!
Not normally one to comment on videos, but your style and simplicity made it difficult not too. Thanks for making this. I'd watched a couple of other reviews and personally found the camera a bit weird, but your point of view has definitely changed my mind about it.
Keep doing your thing!
Thanks for this comment, Thomas!
never thought a camera review video would be so beautifull. Very well done man!!
Absolutely beautiful images. As you mentioned early in the video, it's important to remember that the tool doesn't make the filmmaker. It's all about getting out there and doing what we love.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks, Ben! Gotta get out there. Some of these videos are just mini pep talks to myself that I'm sharing publicly, ha.
found a pot of gold today!
love the way you tell story Raafi!
so much to learn from you
You're directing the Malaysia version next :)
Woahh! I’ll take it as a compliment and work on myself. Thanks Raafi!
So glad you made this, love your process. Looking forward to seeing more :)
Thanks for the review, lovely footage. Would be great to see a follow up on how the camera has been over time with more extensive use and later firmware updates etc :)
bruh that last scene was great. this is the best review of a camera ive seen!
wow Rum, the images from it are just beyond. great review
Thanks so much, +FrankValchiria - and for coming back for my new stuff, too
Ace review. Love your style and sensibility. The audio mix at 6.40 is lovely.
Thanks! I layered up like 4 different reverbs on the song, then something crazy like a tremolo for good measure. In the edit it fades from a dry mix of the song to another with just a couple reverb effects, to the full madness of all the effects as we fade out and the water SFX take over.
Rum Punch Films Excellent! People get so hung up on cameras and forget that clever use of audio will get you to 'cinematic' way quicker (and cheaper). Glad I found your channel.
This is a great review! Can't wait to watch your film and can't wait for my Terra 4K to come!!
Happy to meet another member of the club!
Taylor Morgan when did you order your camera? I ordered one too at the begining of March. I am still waiting for it to be shipped.
I placed my pre-order at the end of February and they quoted me 6-7 weeks for production. They just contacted me a couple days ago to ask what lens mount and accessories I need, so I think it's getting real close to being ready!
This is the most cinematic review in existence
Glad you dig it :)
Mate, this is the best review what I saw on youtube. Your style of shooting/editing/mixing music is fantastic thumbs up.
man great shooting. very interesting take on camera reviews overall. well done
Just placed my Pre-Order for the Terra 4K (Thanks to Raafi and this review)! We'll have to get Kinefinity to partially sponsor your next feature!!!!
Big ups, Troy!
This review is piece of art itself!
This has been my dream camera for over a year I think...
I’m still wondering about this camera as a current RED owner but this really helped me get a window into using it. Specs are specs and I’m over the Bloom style review. Yours is an honest talk about actually using it from a processionals perspective. Someone who knows how to pick a camera up and shoot, period. How it performs in that space. Seems very promising. Awesome work here. Genuine.
Thanks for watching. I think real world tests are just as important as specs, and not enough reviews take the time to really use the camera first. I'm glad that other real pros appreciate it. Although, if you've already got a RED then you're pretty much all set, too.
@@RaafiRivero Oh yeah, cameras can have a heavenly spec list but if the image doesn't call to you then it doesn't matter. Just like a low spec camera with a beautiful image can sometimes win in situations. I was going to ask if you're still in NY and would be willing to let me take a look at your Terra/Mavo LF. I have the older DSMC1 Scarlet MX so its showing its age at this point, and I'm finding myself shooting more natural & low light content, so it's starting to hurt. The Terra seems like a legitimate replacement and the tones remind me more of the Alexa sensor, which was ultimately where we were planning on moving ahead anyways.
@@alexcook4347 yeah I'm still in NY. A couple of us were thinking about putting together a little comparison test so would love to have your Scarlet MX in the mix. can you send me an email and we can coordinate dates soon. (will probably be a week or so before I start getting organized, working on a big edit now).
@@RaafiRivero That would be great. I've been trying to find tests between the Kinefinity & RED & Alexa but there's nothing. That could be revolutionary. I'd say test between Red MX, Dragon & maybe even Monstro. Lots of differences between them. But yeah I really need to get my hands on a Terra to see if its comparable, and unfortunately I think you're the only one hahah. I'd love to meet up with you though so let's definitely get in touch. I'll email you from your website.
Thats from far the best review i saw since a while !!
Thanks !
This is 1 of the best reviews I've seen on anything. Keep up the grate work. I my self just started shooting video
wow! This review looks more cinematic than a lot of movies :D
Great job man!
Thanks! Want to shoot a film on it next!
Learned a lot about the camera from your film. The highlight information retained at 744 look soooooooooo good!
Dude i'm out here tearing up watching a camera review.. who would have thought.
Great work man!!
Thanks!!
Subscribed, because the images proof if someone actually knows what they are talking about👌🏾
Beautiful footage! I have pre-ordered the new Kinefinity Mavo LF and look forward to filming with it.
Thanks, Davina! I'd like to try the Mavo LF when it comes out, too
Great pace, style & storytelling. Thanks for taking the time & doing this!
Very cool ! Definitely the best review for this camera I’ve seen !
Raafi, it was cool to spot you today at Kinvefinity's NAB booth on Tuesday. Both Terra and MOVA are great cameras. Yes, bugs do need to be resolved. For instance, when playing with the Terra 4, the screen started glitching the moment I was switching below 25fps. Happened a few times even in front of the Kinefinity rep (who was very nice by the way). She said it's a firmware bug, and fortunately belonged only to that actual body. She asked me to try it on another Terra 4K unit, and the switch worked flawlessly.
MOVE looks very promising. And the most important news - there might be an office opening in a few months somewhere in LA. Personally, I'm looking forward to renting those cameras out and experimenting more.
I’ve had an issue when I scroll through FPS too fast as well. Hope we can chat sometime at NAB
Seriously nice review style. Your composition and the shots from this camera are beautiful, got my sub!
I really enjoy this review. I've seen it 3 times. Amazing work man!
Thanks so much for watching!
@@RaafiRivero for sure man, keep it up!
Dude your editing style is wild bro just subscribed.
Thanks, I used to freelance as a video editor before getting more on the shooting side
Wow! Really loved this, from the story to the technical insight. Really considering this camera. Thank you
Thanks, Mark! It’s still a great value.
I thoroughly enjoyed this review. It’s basically a documentary, little spritz of Philip Bloom but most definitely your own.
Dude you are awesome! This felt like a Red Collective video!
This is the most beautiful camera review I've ever seen.
Thanks!
Liked, subscribed and commented. My eyes and ears were so pleased while watching this review. Keep it up!
Thanks! Choosing music always takes forever but it's so satisfying when it fits just right.
So much art in this video, I love your work (and will definitely buy this camera haha).
Thanks for watching and good luck!
Not sure if I just watched a review or a movie. Either way, beautifully done!
Thanks! If I ever make it to Sydney, I'm rolling with Crooked City. Peace.
Raafi Rivero ayyy, no doubt! 🙌
Saw this when it first came out now still inspired by this
Glad to hear it :) Looks like you're still making stuff, too. Keep going!
Raafi Rivero you too! Thanks 🤘🏽
Lovely review, and the IMAGES! Damn, you are one master grader. Would love to see your workflow on this
Thanks! Maybe I’ll do a workflow, BTS video for my next review
@@RaafiRivero Would love this, honestly very very good grading, something not a lot of people understand.
Raafi that video is awesome. Beautiful footage and beautiful colorgrading! :) That camera seems to be a good solution for my next upgrade! :)
Thanks, Anders! I pushed FCPX quite far in the Color grade. Several shots have multiple filters and I used the occasional mask. While Resolve offers a more robust solution for grading - top notch motion tracking, for instance, the new color correction features enable FCP to at least be a solid backup.
Thanks - really helpful and fun to watch. Loved your use of handheld
Great review! Like a movie within itself! I want this camera so bad now! :)
Thanks! I wanted the review to have feeling like an actual story, even if it's just a review.
This review is so intriging and interisting
Not your average review and this is awsome
Fantastic review fam. Awesome cinematography too man. U a beast wit it!!👺💪💪💯💯💯
Thanks for the shout :)
I am really really enjoy your review, or rather this is not just a tech review anymore. anyway Keep making stuff
One hella video Mr. Rivero. Sweet stuff! Loved the narration, loved the visuals and honestly, 'LOVE' the kine! Peace Out.
The best review i've ever seen...for anything. For the love of God and all that is holy, please search for this video on Vimeo to witness it in its full glory.
Thanks for watching on two platforms ;)
I love this style of review. Its straight to the point and honest. Its something a lot of review accounts on TH-cam can't seem to get right. You nailed it. Laid back but concise!
I was wondering what version of Clair de Lune you used for the Paris portion of this review?
Thanks for the great review. I'm a subscriber and I'm looking forward to more of your work
Thanks so much, Jason. re:Clair de Lune, there's an artist, Poddington Bear, whose stuff I found on the website freemusicarchive.org - he has an entire album of Clair de Lune played with different instrumental arrangements.
dude, your low horizon shots are impeccable! great work!
Thanks!
what are your thoughts on the Mavo?
My basic thought is that I want one, ha. It's a little strange to say that after just having bought this camera last year but I like the true S35 sensor and the increased dynamic range. I had a chance to try it out at NAB, too (the anamorphic footage that's on their website). Really enjoyed shooting with it.
yeah i downloaded some of their footage yesterday and ran it through my everyday color grade workflow and i really like how it colors... it's really easy to work with. being from Alabama, it sucks that i cant just go test/rent a kinefinity. but im thinking the Mavo S35 is the choice. especially at that price tag.
Man, how inspiring you are. Love your vibe. Cheers from Spain.
Glad you dig it - thanks!
So so so glad you finally dropped this review. Very well put together. Really close to pulling the trigger. Should I have any last second concerns?
I wrote a full text review at NoFilmSchool so you can find more details there.
Great read, thanks Raafi.
Do not get it. Unfortunately I feel that this camera is basically dead. With blackmagic announcing the amazing Pocket 4K for only $1295 with the same sensor, it feels like everything Kinefinity has done will be overshadowed. The dynamic range is weak compared to the Ursa Mini Pro, so if you want superior image you go with that camera. If you want better lowlight performance you go with the Pocket 4k. Now that blackmagic 4K is out it will likely surpass the color science of the Terra and even being that it's the same sensor. It will have better codecs too. At $4000 this camera is a tremendous value, but still not enough..
Mo Sabri what makes you think they have the same sensor?
It's commonly believed that Pocket 4k, Kinefinity Terra 4K, and the Panasonic GH5s are all variants of the Sony IMX294CJK sensor. If you look at the specs of all 3 cameras, that seems to make sense. Because the image of the pocket 4K will likely be far superior to that of the Terra 4K (kinefinity color science is pretty poor among high-end cine cams), there's no reason to buy this camera. Kineraw is a dumb codec too compared to Cinema DNG. MAVO and MAVO LF look way better.
www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products_en/new_pro/may_2017/imx294cjk_e.html
I thought this was an extraordinarily well done review, great job! I will definitely be looking into this line of cameras when the time comes for the next move up. Thank you!
Man this was so amazing. Ive always felt you can do much with any camera if you know what you want. And I prefer the feel and the composition to the technicality. I obviously love the arri cameras but I'm surely going to look out for this camera in the future. Amazing review. So beautifully shot and mixed. I want to know more of this camera and your channel. All the best.
This looks great man! Good review, and really nice footage. The camera has a nice look to it!
What I like most in this review is the sound quality, very very good and same volume everywhere. Not like a lot of reviews where you have to adjust several times the volume not to bother your neighborhood...
Thanks. After uploading I thought that my voice is a little loud in the last section so it’s actually 1db lower in the Vimeo version.
Now that you say that, indeed, it sounds a little bit louder in the last section. But not a big problem.
This new brand Kinefinity is really intriguing for me. But still too expensive for my budget. Now that the BMPCC 4K will be released, won't you do a review of it? Very interesting specs for a very very tiny price...
Exactly. I think a lot of people who were considering this camera will be considering that one now. But there are still differences and reasons to stick with Terra. Besides, this camera is available now, that one isn't until the fall (at least) so that has to factor in for people looking to do something right away. Since I already have a camera I don't plan on doing a review of the BMPCC 4K but agree that it's an exciting announcement.
But I must admit, the concept of the Kinefinity mount that allows to use a lot of different mounts is amazing. And especially the EF speedbooster... For the BMPCC, the speedbooster is very expensive.
That was really great. We enjoyed it a lot. Thank you.
Beautifully done! Nice review
the best camera review ever!!!
Thank you for the kind words +Rodrigo!
@@RaafiRivero cheers bro!! keep filming man!!
Just discovered this review, and it blew me away! Now I want this camera.. Also grade came out nice from FCP X. Amazing!
Brodie! Thanks - yeah FCP X isn’t as powerful as Resolve for Color but there’s some good tools available.
මේ සුභ උපන්දිනේ තුටින් සිනාසීලා......Good Stuff !! keep going!!
Just found your channel. Beautiful review!
Man you are so Calm!! ✨🙏 Love the Review!!
Great review! Beautifully shot. Love your style. I spy warp stabilizer jello at 7:49 ! :)
yeah.. there were a few places where I had to stabilize. Not proud of it! LOL. In all seriousness, it's a necessary part of making up for moments where the shot isn't good enough. but when, as in cases like that, it becomes visible and takes you out of the story, then it's not doing the job right. I've actually subsequently brought down the amount of stabilization on that particular shot - it's shakier now, but less warpy. unfortunately TH-cam doesn't let you re-upload to the same link like Vimeo so you'll have to watch it there for inspection. the four shots starting at 1:34 all have some applied, and the car at 2:00, the kids at the end of the Paris section (a precious moment that would've disappeared unless I ran over to ask the mom, then grab the shot before I was totally set. The only way to save it was with stabilization), also a couple shots in the Villandry section.
I'm guilty of it too which is the only reason why I noticed!!
Great review and it has heart. TH-cam needs more of this.
wow, Thank you for the review
This is so good, love it so much keep creating vids CUZ ILL WATCH
Thanks! Working on some new stuff ;:)
First great review
Thx for making this vídeo this helps a lot in what câmera I me going to get
keep on shooting keep on uploading more videos really liked this video hope to see more videos from you
I LOVE THIS IMAGES
Awesome - thanks for writing.
This was a short movie not a review, jokes aside this was amazing! Honestly you might have sold me on this camera...
Some very NICE shots man, saving my pennies for that camera...
thankyou for making this review ! Really appreciate it
Raafi! All these cameras coming out. I would LOVE to get your take and see some new footage you've been shooting.
Gonna test another camera brand today with a friend, hop I can post it soon
Raafi Rivero Yeah!
Fantastic review!
I rly dig this filmic structure you applied to your review!
I myself am going for the full on Terra 4K package in about a month ^^
Thanks, and good luck whatever camera you choose!
Amazing, Amazing....Amazing!!! They will improve more and more in the many years to come. But, compared to Top Cinema cameras currently in the market like the Arri and Red, price wise.... it's unbeatable. I hope they always keep their prices low with Super quality. I totally agree, at the end, it's all about what kind of image quality you get, this camera delivers cinema quality. By the way waiting on the ZCAM F8, that's another monster in the market.
Thanks so much for this review....I've been eyeing the up and coming Lf model and you gave me exactly what i wanted...A to the point Field test that will help me decide a tad bit more about buying this camera for my personal creativity instead of following the industry and making some kick ass content...Keep up he good work
Really hope you put out more youtube material enjoyed watching!
great review love your shots and style
Terrific video! Keep up the good work.
Really fantastic review, thanks.
Thanks for the review man. It's a pure awesomness!
Awesome review. Enjoyed watching it .. . .. 👌
This is amazing. You are simply the best. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you dig it.
@@RaafiRivero If it's not too much of a bother Raafi, Could you please help me identify the soothing piano song playin at 4:30. Thanks
@@RaafiRivero If it's not too much of a bother Raafi, Could you please help me identify the soothing piano song playin at 4:30. Thanks
@@nikthough3110 It's a song called Life by Kevin Graham. I got it here: artlist.io/song/1855/life
If it's good enough for Philip Bloom to use professionally, it's good enough for me. Probably my fifth time viewing. Stunning footage.
Thanks for re-watching. I can't wait to get the Mavo LF short I did out to the people. Should be within a couple weeks. Shot some of the short with my Terra, too, so they can intercut.