Any person can get a Journalism degree. Not any given person can be a football player. But a good football player with brains can be a damn good journalist, LOL.
Ryan Clark completely outclassed Skip Bayless. His flow of reasoning really pulled Skip's thought process out for everyone to see. Represented himself well. It's always funny to see sports talk show contributors get upset over criticism of themselves while their job is to be a critic. The problem came from Skip's defense of himself from Durant, grow up a little Skip.
i always find it strange when these "commentators" have a problem with athletes having opinions when they spend their whole time being opinionated and thinking they can say what they want when they want.
Just because someone has become a general journalist or got their seniority promotions doens't mean they are the best at what they do. I agree with Ryan.
The look on Charissa's face when Ryan hit skip with that all time competitive loser line lol She wanted to laugh then she looked back over her shoulder at Skip like yeah he got you right there buddy lol!!!!!!!
Is Rob & Skip slow! What Ryan said around 10 minutes is so simple. The player turned reporter/analyst has the advantage. You will never ever play or achieve what they have done on the field. However that same athlete has the opportunity to achieve in their field. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuh. I think you don't have to be so smart to do what they do. Especially after hearing dumb questions like "How does this lost feel?" What were you thinking when you took that last shot?"
Due to social media, the players now have a voice to retort back towards the media. In the past, the media controlled the voice of the athlete because they were the only source. The "reporters" are no longer in control, and whether they are right or wrong about it, they don't like it that the athlete has a platform to criticize them back. A reporter does need to focus on the facts and not make comments about the athlete personally if they don't want to get and brushback.
its easy to ride when the athletes on those teams are retired lol...but its like skip never wanted lebron to win a ring or to or chad johnson ..he hates some athletes...i don't know why
5:12 it's ABSOLUTELY about being personal when it comes to Rob and Skip about LeBron. There's no justification of their hatred of him other than being personal
Always feel bad for Clark when I watch this. Whole discussion is planed by First Take: Rob Parker leads discussion, tries to take discussion in different direction ("media people don't need to have played game to know game"), which isn't Clarks point. Look at the last question by the woman:" Has the air been cleared?" Watch how fast Rob Parker says "yes". He is happy they talked for 15 minutes without actually discussing the valid point Clark makes: Media should focus on game and facts and less on "I think" "I asssume" and opinions in general.
Not only is Ryan Clark now one of the best analyst at ESPN he even brought his boys from the pivot podcast to get a piece of that 💰. Skip and Rob Parker have never put anyone on!
Skip put on Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe and they both will tell you that and they're definitely doing better than the pivot podcast and I like that podcast just got to be honest and fair
Athletes are passing talking heads and it's not close. We would all rather watch Tyson interview someone, Shannon Sharpe, Jalen Rose, Chris Carter, than the old guard so Ryan definitely looked ahead to what Skip and SAS couldnt see. TO, Marshall, Foster have podcasts all superior to the old guard.
Ryan Clark is a little bit of a hypocrite when you look at some of the things he’s said recently about players like Tua and Jared Goff when he was back with the Rams
Point blank. if you're an athlete be prepared to be criticized. Since it is PROFESSIONAL SPORTS it also falls under the category of entertainment and EVERY entertainer gets criticized. if you don't wanna be called "Soft" prove it on the field/court.The way to stop people from talking about you is to prove them wrong. if you constantly do the same shit be prepared to be categorized. The clutch gene talk wouldnt be there if Bron wasnt always doin the same fuck up shit.
its obvious you like Stephan A. but the only thing clark said that was out of line was about his hairline which is pushed back... These guys have a platform to say whatever they want about athletes but when athletes say something about them, they wanna cry and complain and tell people to "kiss their you know what" hypocrites man! Skip upset about Durrant, when durrant calls him out! bull!
The place where players shine and make their point is on the field or court. Nobody ever talked junk about Michael Jordan because when it was his turn to talk(on the court) he would shut them up, players get paid to play and writers to write and analyze.
This is all started because skip got hurt by jalen bringing up his real stats in high school 😂. Skip would be a weak athlete if he was playing football or basketball. Jalen never lied
Funny how these media guys think they know so much about a sport that they think they're at a point where they can claim who's a scrub. If they really know that much, why were they never offered scouting, coaching, or front office jobs to these same pro teams that they criticize? LOL Rob thinking that being at MJ's Cavs shot gives him that much more credibility. Big difference between seeing it and being in the play.
The fact remains That What Mr. Clark had stated is true.. No matter how much The Reporters prepare, No matter how many people they talk to, They will always receive second hand knowledge period! These reporters often launch personal attacks from their bully pulpits, but seem to get their feelings hurt when players react and attack with the one truth at their disposal. Skip's saying that Ryan had Trash talked him, meant that only garbage was coming out of the mouth of Ryan, was very demeaning.
Skip again lying about what happened. Nobody is cool with him and Nobody text him angrily. He has no reason for his personal criticism and should be thankful he has this job.
well spoken by ryan clark. skip and stephen only on tv cuz they r drama starters. they play to the public's resistance versus morals. kinda like a day-time talk show, or soap opera for sports.
Umm rob is crazy u can't call players in the NBA scrubs they play in the league for a reason players in the NBA can call each other scrubs but Rob and other analyst can't do that if they never played the game
They are jealous of the athletes. Athletes and analysts take two different paths to become an analysts on TV these analysts could never be a pro athletes and they look at them as a threat to take their job. News flash former athletes are the most qualified. In their eyes they don't like that players took the easy way to becoming a TV analysts but in reality they been in one sport all their lives to have the right to talk about the sport they played in and that's what columnist and analysts don't like or don't get
Athletes need to realize that this is a debate show where ppl come to share their opinions about various topics. This is not a report show, thats sportcenter. This is not a analysis show, that nfl countdown. You can't get mad someone's opinion of you and your performance. If you don't like it play better use it as motivation to prove them wrong.
cmjones223 so tell them quit screaming about journalism then. Everybody has an opinion degree or not so they become civilian critics who get paid. Not worthy admirable journalist like Bryant Gumble. That job doesn't keep score or have rules set so it isn't a debate show anyway.
Jalen Rose made a good point but did not handle the situation properly. Reporters/analysts that make certain remarks on players do may be hurtful but thats due to their performance on the court which legitimizes the reporters/analysts claim. Regarding player's psyche, analysts do not stir up random assumptions, they make claims based off of their sources. The issue with Rose's sttack on Bayless was that he had no sources and insight on the situation whereas reporters/analysts do.
Are athletes too sensitive? Yes. Does Ryan Clark make some good points? Yes. I can appreciate the fact that it's frustrating for athletes that columnist who had some amount of anonymity are now TV personalities who have to garner ratings and that they might cross the line of legitimate critique and criticism and go into the personnel realm. Yes. Finally athletes you make millions and millions of dollars and to rely on the spectatorship of fans and media in a large part to make those millions of dollars so if the criticism isn't so egregious then I would just let it go.
who are the athletes Stephen was talking about when he said they want his job.... thats what he said right before he said most of them... he ?? YOU STILL DIDNT POINT OUT THE THINGS RYAN SAID THAT WASNT FACTS..... point them out SIR!
Asked Rob Parker why they fired him at the Detroit news. It was his mouth. This was before channel 4 news fired him as well. He had to say he is a sorry man in the news paper for this some reason. Google search his employment history. That's why he is working in LA because he was ran out of Detroit for he big as mouth.
First all Rob Parker talking about 4 Sports Journalist in NY or Chicago. Rob what about the 5000 Cities between NY and Chi that have a newspaper. I thought Ryan burried these guys early on when he said this whole debate started because Skip got his feelings hurt when Jalen called him out. Rob and Skip never came back to that or addressed that issue. This was a joke!!!!!!!
Any person can get a Journalism degree. Not any given person can be a football player. But a good football player with brains can be a damn good journalist, LOL.
5 years later..Boom!
@@mell6481doesn't mean Ryan Clark will ever reach the heights of skip bayless in journalism
@@RL-ww5ev Doesn't matter. He's still successful at it. How successful was Skip at playing professional sports? He wasn't🤷🏽♂
Skip has thin skin like most bullies.
That shi looks thin asl
But if we are being honest, Clark handed them knowledge and they didn't listen at ALL
"We hungry boss?!"
He really took them to school and they ignored the teaching.
At all‼️ ignorance at its finest
Nice taking someone else's comment
@@neetrab nice that you are so naive to think more than one person can’t have the same thought...FOH
Ryan Clark completely outclassed Skip Bayless. His flow of reasoning really pulled Skip's thought process out for everyone to see. Represented himself well. It's always funny to see sports talk show contributors get upset over criticism of themselves while their job is to be a critic. The problem came from Skip's defense of himself from Durant, grow up a little Skip.
Lets be honest here, Clark took them to class and they didnt pay attention.
Ryan Clark is right here. The opinions that are stated on First Take always goes out of line. They get personal and Ryan is right to point that out.
Clark is by far the smartest person in the room and it's not even close.
i always find it strange when these "commentators" have a problem with athletes having opinions when they spend their whole time being opinionated and thinking they can say what they want when they want.
This has always been super ironic to me 😅
Ryan Clark said you hit us with the all time looser line my coach didn't like me hahahahaha
Kei I was rothflmao when he said it!!
Kei lmao I'm a coach and I like playing players I don't like BECAUSE THEY CAN PLAY lol
😂😂😂😂
Lol yup
Look at how Ryan's media career has developed since. Brilliant
This aged well for Ryan
Facts
Just because someone has become a general journalist or got their seniority promotions doens't mean they are the best at what they do. I agree with Ryan.
The look on Charissa's face when Ryan hit skip with that all time competitive loser line lol She wanted to laugh then she looked back over her shoulder at Skip like yeah he got you right there buddy lol!!!!!!!
This is when Espn was real
Haha! I've waited for someone to talk about Stephen A hair line
then they're like "oh, low shot, but my name calls and insults aren't"
Stephen A. college degree doesn’t define a person, character defines a person
Character and achievements in life
“We have the last word … we have the shows … we have the radio shows… “
-Rob Parker
THAT DIDN’T AGE WELL
you just responded. and wow you are such a classy guy determining what comments have class on youtube. man I wish I can be like you one day
Is Rob & Skip slow! What Ryan said around 10 minutes is so simple. The player turned reporter/analyst has the advantage. You will never ever play or achieve what they have done on the field. However that same athlete has the opportunity to achieve in their field. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuh. I think you don't have to be so smart to do what they do. Especially after hearing dumb questions like "How does this lost feel?" What were you thinking when you took that last shot?"
It's nice to know that ESPN has always been consistent being that they were extremely trash then and they still are now
Ryan Clark wrote down "fuck all y'all" on that paper at the end
Ryan Clark made the most sense out of everyone on this show.
lol its funny how butthurt these guys are after jalen served it to them on a plate
Skip Bayless journalistic integrity is somewhere in Dallas just floating around...he is strictly a shock jock...the Howard Stern of ESPN
Same degree, I can articulate as good as you, and MY HAIRLINE AIN'T PUSHED BACK.
😂😂😂😂 the pause afterwards
He shut it down
Due to social media, the players now have a voice to retort back towards the media. In the past, the media controlled the voice of the athlete because they were the only source. The "reporters" are no longer in control, and whether they are right or wrong about it, they don't like it that the athlete has a platform to criticize them back. A reporter does need to focus on the facts and not make comments about the athlete personally if they don't want to get and brushback.
Ryan hated them so much he became one of them.
Skip only rides with the front runners... Like M.J. and the Dallas Cowboys in the early 90's.
its easy to ride when the athletes on those teams are retired lol...but its like skip never wanted lebron to win a ring or to or chad johnson ..he hates some athletes...i don't know why
I have a journalism degree and let's be real- pretty much anyone can do it.
Lol
Exactly. My retarded friend just graduated last year with a journalism degree
5:12 it's ABSOLUTELY about being personal when it comes to Rob and Skip about LeBron. There's no justification of their hatred of him other than being personal
Great Job Ryan! Louisiana guys are Great!!
Always feel bad for Clark when I watch this. Whole discussion is planed by First Take: Rob Parker leads discussion, tries to take discussion in different direction ("media people don't need to have played game to know game"), which isn't Clarks point.
Look at the last question by the woman:" Has the air been cleared?" Watch how fast Rob Parker says "yes". He is happy they talked for 15 minutes without actually discussing the valid point Clark makes: Media should focus on game and facts and less on "I think" "I asssume" and opinions in general.
Not only is Ryan Clark now one of the best analyst at ESPN he even brought his boys from the pivot podcast to get a piece of that 💰. Skip and Rob Parker have never put anyone on!
Skip put on Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe and they both will tell you that and they're definitely doing better than the pivot podcast and I like that podcast just got to be honest and fair
good shit ryan clark, ive been waiting for somebody to put these journalists on blast
Skip thinks he did something Ryan could never do like what 😂🤣
This is fuckin. Awesome!!! Ryan Clark went in #realtalk. The media goes overboard w sports. Soap opera bullshit
This was his job interview and Clark was great!
the HD looks beautiful....
Ryan Clark actually made really good points.
Ryan Clarke a very intelligent Communicator.
Athletes are passing talking heads and it's not close.
We would all rather watch Tyson interview someone, Shannon Sharpe, Jalen Rose, Chris Carter, than the old guard so Ryan definitely looked ahead to what Skip and SAS couldnt see. TO, Marshall, Foster have podcasts all superior to the old guard.
Ryan Clark is a little bit of a hypocrite when you look at some of the things he’s said recently about players like Tua and Jared Goff when he was back with the Rams
Point blank. if you're an athlete be prepared to be criticized. Since it is PROFESSIONAL SPORTS it also falls under the category of entertainment and EVERY entertainer gets criticized. if you don't wanna be called "Soft" prove it on the field/court.The way to stop people from talking about you is to prove them wrong. if you constantly do the same shit be prepared to be categorized. The clutch gene talk wouldnt be there if Bron wasnt always doin the same fuck up shit.
its obvious you like Stephan A. but the only thing clark said that was out of line was about his hairline which is pushed back... These guys have a platform to say whatever they want about athletes but when athletes say something about them, they wanna cry and complain and tell people to "kiss their you know what" hypocrites man! Skip upset about Durrant, when durrant calls him out! bull!
LOVE you, Ryan Clark!👍
The place where players shine and make their point is on the field or court. Nobody ever talked junk about Michael Jordan because when it was his turn to talk(on the court) he would shut them up, players get paid to play and writers to write and analyze.
Add my hairline not pushed back! Lol!💀
This is all started because skip got hurt by jalen bringing up his real stats in high school 😂. Skip would be a weak athlete if he was playing football or basketball. Jalen never lied
basically "you see my helmet come off from the hit,but u don't kno how it feels.."
I AGREE WITH ROB WHEN HE SAID PRO ATHLETES THINK WE DONT SPORTS JUST BECAUSE WE NEVER PLAYED IT AT A PRO LEVEL
Well dang did Clark's words prove to be prophetic......
Skip had SAS back 💯
Ryan! Ryan! Ryan! Ryan! Ryan! Ryan!
is it me or did they just ignore every point ryan would make??
here after Kwame Brown revenge tour.
No, Rob Parker, it's not alright to call any person that has made a professional team a scrub. Last time I checked, scrubs dont get selected
Wow fast forward to 2022 Ryan Clark podcast is better than both skips and Rob shows
unfiltered man from louisiana gotta love ryan clark
Ryan is right
They completely missed his point!
Funny how these media guys think they know so much about a sport that they think they're at a point where they can claim who's a scrub. If they really know that much, why were they never offered scouting, coaching, or front office jobs to these same pro teams that they criticize?
LOL Rob thinking that being at MJ's Cavs shot gives him that much more credibility. Big difference between seeing it and being in the play.
Irony of Ryan Clark bashing media for doing this when now he's doing the same thing
He literally NEVER gets personal
@@yungkhane thank you
He critiques play he doesn't get personal know your facts
haha 'and my hairlines not pushed back'. this nigga gave it to smith. and he is real well spoken.
Dame Ryan set they ass soo straight, they started playing media tricks, putting words in his mouth, bringing up, shit hoping it stick
ryan clarks comment about smith's hairline was also over the line
7 yrs later & Rob is still delusional for that comment. It's waaaay harder to make it to the NFL than be a journalist. Please stop it.
Stephen A was hurt over that hairline comment lol
The fact remains That What Mr. Clark had stated is true.. No matter how much The Reporters prepare, No matter how many people they talk to, They will always receive second hand knowledge period! These reporters often launch personal attacks from their bully pulpits, but seem to get their feelings hurt when players react and attack with the one truth at their disposal. Skip's saying that Ryan had Trash talked him, meant that only garbage was coming out of the mouth of Ryan, was very demeaning.
Ryan took them to school and they failed the test because they refused to listen and learn.
I get that works taken athletes and dress them up like reporter, I get that " Rob Parker".
these clowns get in their feelings when they get called out!
@KnightsUCF88 lol that was Skip's lil jab at the end for that cheap shot. basically a " go-ahead and take that witcha my nigga" lol
dude!!
Skip again lying about what happened. Nobody is cool with him and Nobody text him angrily.
He has no reason for his personal criticism and should be thankful he has this job.
Why does Rob Parker look like his breath always stinks
This didn’t age well for Rob Parker. RC has proven that he can do the journalism job quite well. Water Pistol Pete will always be Water Pistol Pete.
Wow!! never knew Ryan Clark said those comments about Steven A Smith.. Hes a Beast..take that
So coming back to this after KD leaves OKC. Was Skip wrong about how KD really felt about Russ? Idk.
Yes cuz KD signed an extension after this
well spoken by ryan clark. skip and stephen only on tv cuz they r drama starters. they play to the public's resistance versus morals. kinda like a day-time talk show, or soap opera for sports.
Funny how Skip sits in silence for most of the video.
I like Stephen A Smith he always goes in, but Hairline pushed back is funny as Hell ! HAHAHA Ryan C. reppin the Burgh!
Umm rob is crazy u can't call players in the NBA scrubs they play in the league for a reason players in the NBA can call each other scrubs but Rob and other analyst can't do that if they never played the game
All time loser competitor Line Hahahaha
They are jealous of the athletes. Athletes and analysts take two different paths to become an analysts on TV these analysts could never be a pro athletes and they look at them as a threat to take their job. News flash former athletes are the most qualified. In their eyes they don't like that players took the easy way to becoming a TV analysts but in reality they been in one sport all their lives to have the right to talk about the sport they played in and that's what columnist and analysts don't like or don't get
Athletes need to realize that this is a debate show where ppl come to share their opinions about various topics. This is not a report show, thats sportcenter. This is not a analysis show, that nfl countdown. You can't get mad someone's opinion of you and your performance. If you don't like it play better use it as motivation to prove them wrong.
cmjones223 so tell them quit screaming about journalism then. Everybody has an opinion degree or not so they become civilian critics who get paid.
Not worthy admirable journalist like Bryant Gumble.
That job doesn't keep score or have rules set so it isn't a debate show anyway.
Most logical post on here
Ryan has improved since this time. If he saw this now, I'm sure he would be embarrassed.
Even then he was still good
Jalen Rose made a good point but did not handle the situation properly. Reporters/analysts that make certain remarks on players do may be hurtful but thats due to their performance on the court which legitimizes the reporters/analysts claim. Regarding player's psyche, analysts do not stir up random assumptions, they make claims based off of their sources. The issue with Rose's sttack on Bayless was that he had no sources and insight on the situation whereas reporters/analysts do.
Man! This video aged well for Ryan lol.
Now 2022 Ryan Clark still around...wow he call it
yep because he actually plays. you get a real perspective from some one who actually plAYS VS SOMEONE WHO HASNT
Rob need R E class to learn how to comprehend & listen.😮😮😮
Are athletes too sensitive? Yes. Does Ryan Clark make some good points? Yes. I can appreciate the fact that it's frustrating for athletes that columnist who had some amount of anonymity are now TV personalities who have to garner ratings and that they might cross the line of legitimate critique and criticism and go into the personnel realm. Yes. Finally athletes you make millions and millions of dollars and to rely on the spectatorship of fans and media in a large part to make those millions of dollars so if the criticism isn't so egregious then I would just let it go.
Ryan clark handled them both perfectly….
who are the athletes Stephen was talking about when he said they want his job.... thats what he said right before he said most of them... he ?? YOU STILL DIDNT POINT OUT THE THINGS RYAN SAID THAT WASNT FACTS..... point them out SIR!
Asked Rob Parker why they fired him at the Detroit news. It was his mouth. This was before channel 4 news fired him as well. He had to say he is a sorry man in the news paper for this some reason. Google search his employment history. That's why he is working in LA because he was ran out of Detroit for he big as mouth.
Smith went in hard today but it was totally unprofessional. telling him to "kiss you know what" That's over the line!
Rob didnt like that you would never do what i can do line
First all Rob Parker talking about 4 Sports Journalist in NY or Chicago. Rob what about the 5000 Cities between NY and Chi that have a newspaper. I thought Ryan burried these guys early on when he said this whole debate started because Skip got his feelings hurt when Jalen called him out. Rob and Skip never came back to that or addressed that issue. This was a joke!!!!!!!
"first of all, i don't all-cap anything".....
Ryan was speaking the truth. nonetheless i respect both sides.