Stephen A. and Ryan Clark argue about players protesting during national anthem | First Take | ESPN
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- Ryan Clark debates Stephen A. Smith on his suggestion that NFL players stop protesting during the national anthem and instead organize a day to march on Washington.
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Dude Marshawn has been sitting since he got in the league
"I'm just here so I can get paid".
Marshawn Lynch during his career.
Jason Dyrkacz I'm just here so I don't get fined
Aaron Jones ll
FACTS!
He just a fat lazy dude.
In 2012 the NFL had an issue with Tim Tebow kneeling for each game to pray; they also had an issue with Tebow wearing the phrase John 3:16 as part of his blackout to avoid glare, and made him take it off.
In 2013 the NFL fined Brandon Marshall for wearing green cleats to raise awareness for people with mental health disorders.
In 2014 RG3 entered a post-game press conference wearing a shirt that said "Know Jesus Know Peace" but was forced to turn it inside out by an NFL uniform inspector before speaking at the podium.
In 2015 DeAngelo Williams was fined for wearing "Find the Cure" eye black for breast cancer awareness.
In 2015 William Gay was fined for wearing purple cleats to raise awareness for *domestic violence* (ironically what the Anthem protests are supposed to be about).
In 2016 the NFL prevented the Dallas Cowboys from wearing a decal on their helmet in honor of five Dallas police officers *killed* in the line of duty. (But of course that violence doesn't matter).
In 2016 the NFL threatened to fine players who wanted to wear cleats to commemorate the 15th anniversary of 9/11
*DO NOT PRETEND THE NFL SUPPORTS FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR EXPRESSION*
fugiapple96 👍👍
Perfect examples...
First take doesn't have the courage to bring these facts into the open. Weak ass, paid off, hate-mongering punks.
fugiapple96 Bam!
Let's not also forget them denying DeAngelo Williams from continuing to wear pink cleats after October for breast cancer awareness so that he could honor his mother whom he lost to the disease
*I swear SAS never accepts to take an L even if he obviously takes an L*
Stunna P he like Lavar Ball he never lost never lost.
MegaJesusisGod Lavar winning what you mean? Can’t u tell by liangelo getting ready the NBA in the fall or everybody you see wearing BBB or the JBA games getting sold out 😂😂😂😂
Stunna P he listens to respond not to actually listen sometimes
Cuz he rarely took Ls with skip . Now he think he right all the time
While this is sometimes true, not this time.
I like Ryan Clark. He’s debating because he has knowledge. Steve is arguing because he just wants to always be right.
Wants to impress Molly
Facts!
@@ericmcgowan1993 molly and the whole of america. i don't think he's wrong here per se but anytime you HAVE to be loudest and rightest. it gets annoying. he is third most righteous male host here but i still enjoy him.
Ryan killing steve. "you bit the cheese" LMAO
Ryan you're too woke for that bunch
Anthony S___n and that's a bad thing I hate so called woke folks
is it bad because you hate it or do you hate because its bad? if the ladder is true then why?
slack city
I hate woke folks because they don't listen to reason sometimes
it's good to know your history but not everything is a black and white right or wrong issues
stuff like this is shades of grey
i feel that. social consciousness cant be summed up in one word. kinda cheesy and an easy target for backlash.
They never talk about black accountability in these exchanges the protests refer to, how is the problem ever going to be solved if only white people have to fix everything? Just a fucking stupid protest that isn't even based in reality when you examine the these interactions and find black people are not even treated worse overall in these scenarios. It's just media sensationalizing things like "hands up dont shoot" which was a lie the black community told to protect that violent criminal.
I don't think Lynch is protesting
He likes sitting down lmao
David Lee right! He down there eating Skittles...lol
LMAO. Marshawn has been doing it for years. Youre right lol
He to busy listening to music, in his own world..
Missile 83 deadass😂😂
TheLtrain85 exactly he's been doing it since college and they didn't start doing the national anthem with the players on the sidelines until after 9/11 when the military started paying them to so they could get more soldiers.
Sas thinks if I scream louder than the next guy that makes me right
stryfetc1 don’t compare the president to Screaming A Bitch LOL
Chris Sharp OK then I'll compare him to a bitch, which is what he is. An orange bitch. That cool?
Atonio2382 that’s how it is with most ppl
@@LennyDykstra1 Screaming A Bitch. Oh my god! I enjoy SAS but that's too funny to not laugh at.
Kuro Lee a alpha male orange bitch who had a father. And knows what it takes to be a man. That’s why he’s president and another idolizes Lebron James LOL
No one forget this beef started when Clark roasted Stephen A‘s hairline on the air... without Stephen A being present 😂😂
Facts... I remember that show when it aired
It’s funny too how SAS said that some NFL can’t do what he does and can’t articulate like him, now Ryan is beating him in a very important debate.
@@ellisonjordan7915 That's why he said "some" as opposed to saying "all".
You could tell Ryan wanted to steal off in SAS grill😂😂😂😂
Stephen A. Smith aka Screaming A is a disgrace his "tapdancing" shoes are on today! Ryan Clark made great points.
Think Tank He bootlickin for those butter biscuits
Think Tank... I like that... "Screaming A." Imma borrow that sometime and here's the receipt.
Think Tank: Right! Screaming A's definition of winning a debate is by screaming and interrupting ppl
Jemel Moore you already know
Tony Snow facts
Ryan bodied Smith
Mr. Bellamy no doubt
Oh really you think so??? maybe you think that because you agree with him?? Lmao so predictable
@@jog186 are you not seeing cops beat on people and get away with it? He made his point
Bodied? How sway?
sp8thegreat by letting him know he fucked up with that mind state.
Steven A. Smith talks over people. I got love for him, but he talks over people
Darnell Jones you mean yells over people lol
when he's talking over molly, i have no problem with it
Darnell Jones: Yourbarely realizing this just now? This dude been like that since before he was on first take. His definition of winning a debate is by yelling really loud n talking over ppl
I stopped watching First Take cause that's all Steven A Smith does is talk over people
But shid keep it 💯 if I had to choose between him and Shannon Sharpe, you already know where I'm goin! Unc!!
Mr.Clark I'm with you 100%...
Ryan Clark needs his own damn NFL show!
as long as he sticks to nfl and stays out of politics
Y'all must be white people
He has is own youtube channel that he shares with Fred Taylor and Channing Chowder called, THE PIVOT.
@@ms.carpenter7793 my man! Thanks for that, I’ll definitely check it out.
@@jrcell5832 I’m a chick 😊, but you’re welcome 😉
As a veteran who served in Vietnam and to all our other soldiers who fought in the previous wars before us. I just want to say, enough is enough!!! I love America do death and we fought for this country. But players also have a right to stand up for what they believe in!! You have to respect their rights no matter how much you like it.
Adam Jamison Thank you for your service.
I think your a phony. Every vet I've ever met would punk any bitch who sat for the flag his brothers died wearing. Stolen valor piece of shit, u think we're that dumb to think a jungle war veteran has the tolerance for a bunch of nancies making millions playing a fking game to sit or kneel after what they went through. Go fuck yourself, bitch
Adam Jamison Amen brother. I'm a veteran as well.
Dan Tirk damn I didn't know every member ever of the US forces had the exact same mindset and thought process. That really is convenient.
Dan Tirk I am a vet and you and the rest of these keyboard patriots don't speak for us. Ask the politicians when the rich hedge fund kids are going to do their fair share of fighting in case an armed conflict breaks out. That's why the Veitnam War stopped because of the draft lottery.
I skip the national anthem in 2k lbvs 😂😂
Dont Jack they should get Fergie to do the anthem in 2k19😂😂
Chief Miyagi 😂😂😂😂😂 I just really cried when you said that
Dont Jack Well it's the same version every time so it's boring as fuck
Jordan Dennis I know bro. Funny thing is they don’t play it at all in madden
Dont Jack me2 but in FIFA🇺🇸 with the US national team
Molly it's not your show. Sit back and stop talking so much
JJ Redwood the whole feminist movement is too deep in now for SAS to say anything about it, he hired her and now he has to take any baggage she comes with he’s trapped.
She is the moderator...its her job to direct the conversation. And she has producers in her ear as well.
JJ Redwood 😂
I feel for Jalen Rose sometimes. She is low key cute, but her voice is getting annoying.
JJ Redwood Facts! Molly needs to sit and zip it up!
Max said “The presence of injustice doesn’t mean no progress!” That’s 💯💯💯
Stephen A Smith loves to think that hes a brother from the hood.
@@cainbutler6291 hood and being poor is not the same thing
@@cainbutler6291 no I mean you can be poor and not be from the hood. I know poor people from the suburbs
@@cainbutler6291 You Just Got Bodied.....
@@cainbutler6291 Take your L.
Just because you scream loud does not make you right...
Tell my moms that 😭😂
Thank u Ryan
I thought SAS eyes was gonna pop out if his head 😲😨👀
Daddy SmokesYams 😂😂😂😂
So did I....hahahaha...
It might 1 day.
Lmfao🤣
Preach Ryan Clark ✊
Remember when Stephen A Smith said he'll not debate Ryan Clark because he's not worth it?😂
“No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave” so black men are expected to put their hand on their heart and stand for this diss record against their Ancestors???GTFOH
@@thundererodinson1668 you are white yes?
Ya'll have given SAS soo much power as a voice who talks about something HE never DID.
Stephen A is tripping, Ryan and Max did a great job.
Stephan a gets called out and loses his mind 😂😂
There doesn't necessarily have to be an end goal that is quantifiable. Social Justice is an enduring cause. What is the end goal of playing the anthem at every sporting event? To remind people of their patriotism? To honor the fallen & the current serving? Patriotism is a demonstration just like social just awareness or breast cancer awareness or salute to service month, etc
Can the show producers create a mute button for Molly? We don't care what she thinks about anything sportswise.
They need to create a mute button for Stephen a. and max. Keep talking molly.
BOYCOTT ESPN & NFL...SIMPLE
Ahhhhhh I miss max on first take 😢
Haha seems like Molly read over the comments from previous videos, she be trying to get into every argument now
Good Convo, It Got Real. But This Issue Is So Deep, It’s Always Gonna Hurt. RIP The People Who Died For This Issue. 💯💔
Ryan Clark.....................I APPRECIATE you Bruh!✊
IF YOU'RE NOT PRODUCING BLOWBACK FROM YOUR PROTEST, YOU'RE NOT PROTESTING RIGHT.
Everyone should go read the US flag code. There’s an entire section on things that are “disrespectful” to the flag. On this list are : wearing clothing with the flag, using the flag in advertisements, holding it horizontally, and printing it on novelty goods. All of which are regularly done by people on the right.
Notice how nowhere in this section is there anything about whether you should be standing or sitting or kneeling.
Actually it does say when the flag is present. You must stand, acknowledge and salute the flag if you were in the military or are active duty. Civilians are to hold their hand over their heart.
@@CC25Y That is true
Fukk dat flag
@@odogg4447 Your more than free to find another flag and country that suits your needs.
@@CC25Y that's not true. It's a choice to stand or not. Fake Patriots making it an issue that you have to stand when don't have to. You're standing for a cloth.
Im a vet. Keep protesting.✊🏿
ESPN has gone full SJW lol
Sal Iaquinta All of the US, is gonna be heading in that direction. You should catch up.
As it should, fuck you.
This is old it’s getting annoying. That’s why I’m not watching football that much anymore.
Crespin Proa Yeah it's really old and annoying.
Crespin Proa well don't watch it then have a good day smh
A huge problem in our society is that people don't like to admit that they're wrong, and this doesn't let conversations continue because then we get bogged down. Ryan laid out why Stephen A's example of "NFL players should all go march" was wrong, and Stephen A just wouldn't admit he didn't think it all the way through and that he was wrong. Sad.
Can someone tell me the issue and the facts behind the issue? Or has that been completely lost? Or was there even an issue to begin with?
Stephen .a just take the L bruh
How does kneeling change any of this? So if you kneel during the anthem magic fixes you issues? Why haven't we seen what they've done to better this situation? What have these players done in the offseasons? It's now a publicity stunt, no one is talking about WHY they're kneeling and sitting, it's just pissing everyone off HOW they're doing it. Find a different way to protest. That anthem and flag gave you a black president for 2 terms what did he fix? Did M.L.K. Jr. disrespect the flag and anthem protesting racial issues, no a bunch of spoiled rich punks do. If this country is so bad to minorities then why do they continue to flee here? If it is so bad to black people then why not leave? Pick a country in Africa and move there. Move to a majority black country and you lose government assistance, minority favoritism, and you lose your multi million dollar paychecks. There are literal rules that make employers hire minorities even if they're not qualified or a white person is more qualified they get the job based on race, it's called equal opportunity. I'm a Marine veteran and I have a problem how they protest, I'm fine with what they're saying I don't disagree but how they're doing it is unacceptable. You are disrespecting a country flag and saying it's directed towards cops, how the fuck did you connect those dots?
You sound like the most racist person on TH-cam dawg. Delete the comment lol
And besides, black people were here already. All of our ancestors didn't come on the ships.
we talking about protests, we need to talk about boycotts
1:20 Molly saying let him finish is so ironic 😏
nmj530 LMFAO
@SoCool 1 cuz he nasty 🤣🤣🤣
Players are stupid!! They are solving nothing!! They will lose there jobs!! Bunch of dummies!! Stand up and stay on the payroll!! Agreed Ryan!! Your correct!! First take is so weak now without skip!! People go watch undisputed!! Way better then first take!!
Their
Kap just won..
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If you do not love our country - GET THE HELL OUT - why didn't you protest during
the off season??????????????????????????????????? if I protest at my job I get
fired - DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT - Trump gave you an invitation - get a seat at the table
Start a boys club and help the other young men?????????????????????????????????
My protest will be not to watch the NFL.
Why are you not watching?
You'll tune in to the NFL when the season starts!!! So stop talking shit.
Jose Aponte
Either that or he never watched the games anyway. Some of these people came here just to push their political agenda.
Well I'll watch it on 2 tvs so it'll even out lol LAME dude
So who are you nobody cares the game will be played and a super bowl will be in February
Somebody going to have catch this fade
warner jones real talk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What a ridiculous conversation
Max proving himself realer than SAS again
Exactly
Remember Smith saying Clark couldn't articulate himself as well as he could? He articulates himself better than you screaming a
NBA taking over anyway.. even tho they do still stand for the anthem, they’re way more woke as athletes and use their voices more
This is foolishness. This is why ESPN is failing as a network. They refuse to stick to just SPORTS and insist on speaking about political topics! Leave the politics for news networks. End of story.
The president calling kneeling players mothers some bitches is what made it political. People deflecting from the point of the knee and deflecting by saying its about anything else made it political. How can a silent knee make anything political lol
Clark owns Stephen a...who remembers when he cracked on Stephen hairline lol
What they should be arguing about why their are no black or minority ownership in the NFL for over a 100 years sense it was founded.
SAS is the MAIN reason I stop watching this show. If you want real debate check out skip and Shannon on undisputed. (Ryan is the best thing this show has to offer) It’s so obvious that the producers of this show tells SAS what his talking points and positions are. (Molly is pretty good as well)
So are you are going to stop watching football because of this..... people are going to agrue back and forth over this issue. But when the dust settle when the change of police brutality is coming today,tomorrow. Nfl players who are protesting not everyone is but the one who is to me I want to know when is the end game of this because you want people to listen and most of them don’t want to listen or care. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong of them to think that way but that’s how is now. It’s been 2 years now and I never stop watching nfl because of the protest. I love football too much. Now it’s like I don’t care about the protest because it’s all about trump and not the issue of the country. Overall nfl players can protest and they have a right to do it. But if they want to make real change March to White House and tell trump to fix it period. Nfl should just get rid of the National anthem with players on the field. This is the nfl fault for taking money for pay Patriotism!!!
Civilians need to stop getting beat down or shot down because of their color that's not being aggressive plus it's not progress if its still happening
Fuck the nfl
More people die of lightning strikes than "police brutality". Are lightning strikes an "epidemic"?
DuckTalesWooHoo1987 you wouldn't say that if you lost a loved one.
More people die of lightning strikes than of so called "police brutality". Period. That is a fact. Would you say that lightning strikes are an "epidemic". Yes or no. It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very simple question.
Molly interrupting them!!!!
I will continue to Boycott the NFL again this Season while they continue the insult my Flag. I may not ever come back to this Sport.
Media is the problem while posing as a solution, analysis should happen within a person vs sound bites/clips & words that get so divided they reconstruct into something new; aprojection of the commentators own position
I wish Molly would never talk idk how Jalen Rose married that chick I couldn't imagine trying to have a conversation with her!
I believe that the NFL has the right to protect their bottom line. They met with the players and are donating money for awareness and community outreach but the players are STILL trying to damage the brand. Police brutality is not the NFL's fault but they are paying the price. Why are NBA players not joining in the kneeling or making some kind of controversial protest or demonstration about this very issue? It was a polarizing move by kneeling. I believed in the reason behind it but I never liked or believed that kneeling during the anthem would bring people together towards progress. And people keep feeding Trump and falling right into his games. Sometimes you just have to ignore people and take away their platform. We've spent more time on his Tweets and antics than actually coming together to talk about a solution. While these two stupid political parties use it as a way to galvanize their sheep for votes.
PeeJay Brown Jr the players are doing nothing wrong. Its the people who would rather deflect from than correct the problem. Nfl bottom line will be fine. Owners are billionaires and players are millionaire. The people who boyvot or call it division are already on the side of dont care about black folk being murdered. Thats why they bring up black on black crime like white on white crime dosnt exist or is less prevalent. Crime is majority proximity, kill whose closest. Nba players dont have team ownersbor coaches telling them to not talk about it. So they have. Google popovich and how he as a white nba coach, has spoken on the issue of police brutality often to the press. Foogle the hands up dont shoot shirts nba players wore to signify the countless unarmed blacks shot by cops , most shot in the back so the cops had nothing to fear. Some even making false statements and covering body cam a to cover it up ans still get away with it. Trump made it political and more racially tense than it was when kaep was just silently kneeling. Not causing a scene like trumo dis when he called black women bitches because he said the players are sons of bitches. Forced patriotism is what north korea does. Kim jung un kills those that dont have blind allegiance to a piece of cloth. Is that america too?....
PeeJay Brown Jr reply direct to my comments if you reply
Ok, look at it this way. I see both sides as someone who has plenty of family/friends who have served in the military. I see the flag and anthem as a thank you for your present/past service and remembering those who made the ultimate sacrifice. As a black man in America I understand our struggle as a people. I didn't like in Kap did it even though I stood behind his reason for doing so. I just thought it was the wrong time. It would be like being in church during the prayer and suddenly start yelling about the wage gap between men and women. Does the gap exist? Absolutely! Was that the time or the place to do so? Absolutely not!.
Yes, the NBA players wore their shirts but they didn't take a knee or do something that was disrespectful to what was going on. There is a HUGE difference. I can pretty much guarantee that if LeBron or someone would have taken a knee during the anthem in the NBA it would have had the same reaction from the fans. No one has forced patriotism nor was this a issue with black players until they decided to do something that was seen as disrespectful to the moment. I love my country and I think it is one of the greatest in the world (even with all of my international travels but I know it is not perfect and has it's issues. We can never work towards any kinds of solutions or changes if we can't even open up dialog and allow someone like Trump to fan the flames instead of ignoring him. Why even address or give energy to something/someone you can't change? Thus I don't post, repost, or even give him one mention in my social media. He is not worth of my time, energy, or respect.
Well said and broken down Mr.Clark 👏👏👏👏👏
What is forgotten is the fact that these teams are corporation's u follow there rules or get fired
Forced idol worship is not FREEDOM!!!
Forced patriotism is what they do in north korea. I thought america was better than that....or is it just deflection instead of correction of the issue of police brutality? You know why they kneel. Saying anything else is doing your best to justify murder because it isnt someone who looks like you and yours and the ones who murder do look like tou and get away with it.
What is forgotten is that the majority of the Players are so called black..
Now if every so called black player boycott/protest the nfl then what??
Are these corporations going to make anything close to what they make now??
Smith wanted to slap ryan lol
Stephen A. is annoying and never can just have a discussion. Always yelling.
No protesting on the clock. Shut up and play ball.
Wish all those Americans who fought for this country and now are homeless and on the streets can say
Lowest unemployment rate ever 👍🏼
marciokop stop drinking the Kool Aid, prove it,don't just repeat propaganda, if it's so what policy in the current administration made this so? The prez hasn't had time to " make America great again, to busy Twitter beefing with everyone who disagrees with him. # get real period
MrScans1 I only look at facts. Do some research #walkaway
@@Kinpot09 ...no they didn't cause the numbers don't lie, just like jay-z said.
Mike Honcho numbers say that trump is riding the wave of obama policy for the first year and some change. He has not actually created new policy that increased employment. In fact his tax cut allowed large companies to lay off thousands and rebuy thier stocks from the public.
Under the trump reign
Sheesh, the ESPN i grew up with used to cover sports play on the field with a little fun on the sidelines, and behind the scenes. This, is NOT fun on the sidelines nor behind the scenes. This is political BS that they are not entirely qualified to pontificate on as if they "know all/tell all" there is to know. Many of us fans (with IQ's over 100) can apply COMMON SENSE based upon facts, statistics/data, mixed with a whole lot of REALITY....all by our lonesome selves.
But NOT espn. Not these F'krs. Just highly paid opinions.....in search of ratings. As if CNN, CSPAN, MSNBC, and other liberal MSM needs some help stirring shit up & dragging everybody down to the gutter to fight while they, the pundits referee? Sheesh......don't think so.
#movingon
You must have heard some truth in what's being said on this segment? See, you people are easy to spot because ya'll are driven by hatred, envy and anger. I noticed that you left out Fox News in your attempt to get some conservative thumbs up. You should hate the confederate solders and the followers of the confederate flag, after all didn't they actually fight against that wonderful flag of yours? Oh and Trumpet wasn't the president when you were growing up that's why the sport channels spoke sports only. Tell Trumpet to keep his fat nose out of sports
"....you people, are easy to spot...." Lololol......
I wish intuition, comprehension, and an ability to infer were "easy" for "you people." Lolol......but, such is not the case.
To wit: I explicitly wrote, "liberal MSM." FOX News, last i checked does not meet that classification. Connect the dots.....boi.
I don't "hate" those/that which are/is dead, long past, and has little to nothing to do with me or most folk i know.....pertaining to confederate soldiers, flag n o/wise.
Only "hater" here is you, "you people." Lolol.......and that's your problem not mine, from day to day, isn't it? I mean, Trump's been POTUS for almost 2 yrs now, and that's got to hurt ya badly because "you people" are susceptible to propaganda as much as any other "people."
I wrote what i wrote for intelligent consideration &/or discussion if need be. I don't get the impression you're one of the IQ 100 club, but.....at least you're (somewhat) trying to be. If you can't leave your own "hate" and ignorance of what someone else is thinking/saying w/out maligning their character, then there's no point in recognizing you for communicative purposes.
For example, here's a tip: If you had written what i had written in first comment, I as you, would have stated that the pundits said "yada yada which is true in my opinion and why don't you see or agree with that." This would be a convo starter, not ender. Try it next time on the next "you people" you come across and think you know WTH they're saying.
Since you love the American flag so much, how do you feel about treasonous people flying the confederate flag? And what is with you people attacking someone's education, have you ever heard the thoughts of conservatives? Here's a fuck'n link, ff to 0.55 >>>>>> th-cam.com/video/eFQhw3VVToQ/w-d-xo.html
This is why I (& others too?) won't convo with "you people"; you're as idiotic as this video u "F'kn link" to prove a point? You can't even entertain the thought(s) that: a) there are IGNORAMUSES on both sides (or any side for that matter) of politics to ridicule via videos; b) some videos are legit but some are staged as well, as in fake actors playing stooges or stooge roles; c) the MSM sole job now is to make $$$$$$ via advertising via eyeballs/ratings and the truth is NOTHING more than a COMMODITY to them.
You haven't learned this much by now? How old are you? What education do you have or speak of? Did you really graduate h.s. via successful examinations completions or were "you people" passed/pushed out?? This are VALID questions to ask even if you deem them "offensive."
al karg
You mean staged like this video? >>>>>> th-cam.com/video/jJOsMq00wlw/w-d-xo.html
S.A.S. out there "tap dancing like Gregory Hines "
Simple solution, if the anthem protests bother you then don't go to games, don't support NFL, don't watch any coverage. If you don't care about the anthem then carry on as before. I'm in the UK, and even I refuse to watch any NFL. 12 months and I can quite happily do without it. What ever happened to American patriotism. These overpaid and overindulged protestors should be in the unemployment line.
Who gives a shit about you not watching and I guess you gives two fucks about equality for all, because America isn't about that.
Nice and polite American I see .
Spend some time with your troops in the Middle East and then try telling me about equality.
I truly support free speech. And i truly support the INTENT behind these initial protests. But this is the cold reality... there's a key difference between a protest and a successful protest. This is protest is officially outside of the successful category. The narrative has been changed by antagonists and the views of the protesters have been skewed over time. All while no discernable advancements have been made. I never thought I'd say this but the protest is a failure. No one is talking about what the protests were originally about. All they speak on is patriotism, the flag, disrespect, the owners and Pres. Trump. The Msg has been lost and it's been lost for a while. I think it's time to go back to the drawing board and scheme up a SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN....
Do you think MLK was successful? Black people quit, this is what we're good at.
BigCal 3000 the only ones changing the narrative are whites who dont care that black folk are being killed. The ones who didnt even know about it now do. They wanted to make it a national conversation. They successful with flying colors in that regard. Gotta knkw theees a problem to fix it.
Unarmed armed blacks getting killed by police is a myth sooo the protest was always doomed to fail. (The facts and numbers simply do not support it). Black community needs to take some responsibility for their *own actions* and stop worrying about the white man.... it's just embarrassing and petty
Stephen A is wrong
Ugh how can nyone watch espn?
@Léo Mutombo WTF is that
Molly, please shut up while Men are talking. Lol
love how people always say they have the freedom to protest but dont respect people that people have the freedom to counter their protest
zero,
Understand what you wrote before you write it! If you counter protest people who are stand up to police brutality, racism, and police marginalization of people of color you are a racist!
Maurice Reid points!
@peasant But when they do good things in the community and donate their own money and time, the media never covers it... So when IS the right time to use their platform that reaches millions of people? Only when it doesn't offend you?
Maurice Reid except it is proven to be false time and again. You just hate facts is all. Poor poor victim Maurice.
@hair ledoux show me a link from a reputable source that proves that police don't target and shoot black people at a higher rate than any other race.
Taking a knee to our flag is a DISGRACE
RMS Fabrications BULLSHIT. FYI A MILITARY VETETAN TOLD KAPERNICK TO KNEEL YOU IDIOT!!!!!!
You are a Racist moron
How??
@@KingKratos79 if a military veteran told you to jump off a bridge you would do it ?
@@johnathanadams3763 SMH. YOU CLEARLY HAVE THE IQ OF A TOILET BOWL MAN.
Ryan and Jalen need a show together
SAS HOLD THIS "L"
stephen does whatever espn tells him to do
Molly annoying cutting them off
Why is he yelling?
Once t.o said to Stephen a max is more BLACKER than you it was over for max on this show stephen a smith got him outta there smh
Facts
Just checking to see if Molly is still here running her mouth
Molly’s voice gives me a headache
Referee Molly in the house. Congrats to her and Jalen getting married. Ryan Clark needs a tie.
SAS, YOU LOST. JUST MOVE ON
Wrong Stephen A
you DEMONSTRATE
your right to PROTEST
Let these athletes go live In Syria.
They will stand for the flag when they return guaranteed
Talk sports. This is B.S.
Momma's cooking
Steven A talking out of his A as usual. This dude just out here to cause confusion.
haha something tells me Clark and Smith didnt enjoy a beer together after this recording LOL
Ryan Clark ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
She failed at controlling the conversation and Stephen A Smith. Get her outta there!!!
I salute Rhyan Clark because when everyone else was talking about Miles Garrett need to be charged he stood up and put everyone back in their place. I truly believe that the media would have had Miles Garrett charged if Mr. Clark wouldn't have came on the air and say what I wish other brothers would have said.