Garak and Quark both know that when it comes to the security of the station, the safest place is right next to Odo. He didn’t call for help because he knew Odo could handle it.
@@DrewSavo I'm pretty sure OP is referring to Garak being surrounded by the Klingons at the end of the clip. And honestly, there was no point in calling Odo by then anyways. They would've beat to a pulp if he tried.
Its nice to see how Odo and Garak are still having breakfast after the events of The Die is Cast, as Odo knew its the only time Garak is able to relax socially (lunch with Julian). And I really like how with the cup trick Odo is doing his best to be as ‘involved’ in it as he can. I’ve said it before: the most appealing and enthralling part of the show was the relationships between characters.
Actually Odo started joining Garak for breakfast after the events of the The Die is Cast. Odo stated that he was doing so as the last scene in that episode.
It's unlikely this was intentional, but Odo's producing of coffee in the cup after drinking it demonstrates how changeling Martok was able to fool Sisko and Kira. Absorb blood, and produce it at will.
The coffee is part of Odo's body, as it never stops touching him. Changeling Martok must have used fake blood or real blood from another being, like how Joseph Sisko suggested it might be done.
@@Rubyofthedead yah true. if a changeling can "hold" blood in a pack somewhere in the body, they can easily have a small supply underneath the "epidermis" that drops out on a knife cut.. similar to how IRL people hide from urine/blood testing.
I like the attention to detail that when Odo gets up to break up the disturbance, the cup of coffee is gone. To any other character, that would have been an error, but since we just got the explanation that both the cup AND coffee are a part of Odo, it being gone is him reabsorbing it to carry out his duties. It being PRESENT after he leaves would have been the error. That's some good forward thinking.
The craziest thing about where Martok insists on everyone shedding blood to reveal they’re not Changelings… is that *HE’S A CHANGELING.* When they later save the real Martok from the Dominion POW camp, he'd never met any of the DS9 crew. So the Founders either found a solution for blood screens almost right away, or maybe they never even worked AT ALL!
Or it was piss poor writing. All they could have done was just say he changed his mind about supporting the attack against the cards and supporting the attack against and he was later kidnapped
@@attiepollard7847 I don't see it as poor writing at all. It makes perfect sense for Changeling Martok to support attacking the Cardassians. The more infighting in the Alpha quadrant the better, and this war with the Klingons is what lead the Cardassians to join the Dominion.
@@attiepollard7847 It's later made clear that the Founders found a way around blood screenings. This just shows they figured it out MUCH sooner than the Federation anticipated. This works greatly to the Changeling's advantage, as they never suspect him. Even when they figure out he WAS replaced, they first assume it happened much later.
I just realized... They brought a total of FIVE Klingon "warriors" to beat up a single Cardassian tailor. Can't wait to hear the glorious song about this battle.
I've accidentally sliced my palm on multiple occasions in the kitchen and while it hurt like hell, it was never any sort of critical injury -- I just wrapped it up and powered through the pain. Not sure why you think it's such a nasty place to get cut. ...Also, yes, I know there's no reasonable explanation for cutting my palm in the kitchen, I was a stupid kid when I was learning to cook.
@@CoralCopperHead Yeah, but it is hard to get it to heal, because you keep opening the wound when you use your hand. Plus, in the movies, they really bear down, like they are digging for gold.
Oh yeah I'll explain. The knife isn't real. Sharp as a spoon. The hand and the knife are treated with chemical compound that turns red when applied. An older Hollywood trick. I'm certain that you could find videos on yt about it.
@@FekLeyrTarg They just already had the fake blood on their palm. Notice how they never show the clean hand first, then have the knife come in and cut. Instead, they have the knife already "cutting" where the fake blood was poured, so that it looks like they're drawing blood.
Wait that's how the founders get past blood letting test. If odo can fool others as if he is drinking and refilling a mug with coffee, ant changling can get around the bleeding
3 random things from this clip. 1: Odo isn't wearing anything clothes 🤫 2: Martock is a changing 🤫 3: The coffee cup is a gentle reminder to Sisko's Dad I paraphrase, how do you know I'm not some changing who killed some poor guy and sucked up their blood to later produce on command.🤓
@@BrotherDerrick3X I've never been convinced by that. When Odo was saying about him having tried to eat, he said it just fell through him and made a mess on the ground. I'm not sure a pack of blood could be carried as such for long enough
It would've been in character if Kira had rolled her eyes, rolled up her sleeve and cut herself on the arm like a sensible person, rather than slicing open her palm like the idiots in movies always do.
Odo and Garak having a civil conversation...and underneath it lies Garak's security question about Cardassia, which he knows Odo can handle expertly. So while they might piss each other off sometimes, they also respect each other's abilities, which is one of the great things about DS9. Odo also handles Drex expertly...but of course Drex is immature enough not to take the hint.
I do seem to recall that later on in the show, it was revealed that the changelings had figured out how to fake the blood test, which was obviously an upsetting revelation. I also seem to recall that, before that point, a changeling was impersonating a doctor, and he was able to fake the blood-test essentially the same way Odo did the coffee trick, by generating his "blood" in the "test-tube" that he was holding.
fair do's to the sound effete people, you can here small details behind conversations of the food replecatoes etc's something of my first viewing never noticed,
You know even though it's not revealed until the next season, I bet the real reason Martok was rubbing the blood around the table was so he could actually reabsorb the liquid in his body.
I wonder why they never brought Martok's son back for later episodes of DS9? He was portrayed just in this one episode with Worf taking his knife away at Quarks Bar.
Is that the real Martok or is he a changeling at this point? He could have a prothesis or something on his hand that would release blood because he knows exactly where he will cut himself
Am I the only one who thinks it’s a little refreshing that their first method of identifying Changelings wasn’t effective? It also shows how dangerous they really are
“Does your mother allow you to speak to men?” “ yes!! She told me that part of my job as a security officer was to confront people who harassed people in public.”
No. This is (as revealed much later) a Changeling posing as Martok. I believe the cup trick shown was intended as a subtle hint that Changelings had fine control over liquids from their own bodies even if they fake other liquids, hence the knife test worked the way it did.
So was this Martok a Founder? And if so how did he pass the blood test? Or was Martok taken after the Klingon / Cardassian war started? Inquiring minds . . .
If you pay attention to Odo's explanation at the end about absorbing coffee and being able to produce it through his body afterwards, it's implied that changelings can do that with any liquid, including blood. They just put it inside their body and release it when needed
@@AlexMartinez-dl9xi Joseph Sisko: If I was a smart shapeshifter, a really good one, the first thing I would do would be to grab some poor soul off the street, absorb every ounce of his blood, and let it out on cue whenever someone like you tried to test me! Don't you see? There isn't a test that's been created a smart man can't find his way around. You aren't going to catch shapeshifters using some gadget! The only thing you can count on in this life…"
And Martok’s the real changing in the room and sent there to weaken Cardassia and Klingon empire by starting a war between them. Then gets a bonus with dissolution of Klingon-federation alliance.
I just realised, they were not able to show a woman cutting herself on prime time TV. Even tho she is the toughest sob on the show. Did they ever show the Duras Sisters doing any Klingon cutting stuff?
Why the h*ll can't they show a woman cutting herself? What difference does the gender of the person make? Kira did just about everything that her male counterparts did, what line would be crossed by her cutting her palm?
@@jawstrock2215 Martok was captured well before the tensions began with the Federation. In the later episode with the prison camp, Martok greets Worf saying he "has heard of him", implying they never met but perhaps heard stories of him (Martok always been a Gowron supporter).
Having ODO - a Shapeshifter - who has been in contact with the shapeshifters as he's linked with them before - is probably the greatest security threat you could possibly dream of. Would the FBI, CIA, or NSA allow North Korean, Iranian or Chinese intelligence to "visit" our top security advisers from time to time and have long intimate conversations?
One scene later you see Odo absorbing and producing coffee inside of his cup, displaying a changeling's ability to create various liquids. A Chekhov's Cup, if you will.
I think that was piss poor writing in ds9 I would have bought that marktok was a changeling after the war woth the feds and he had changed his mind and he was later kidnapped by the Dominion and replaced
This had to be the Changling pretending to be Martok, right? Because when they found him in the Dominion prison camp, Martok didn't recognize Worf, and once Worf introduced himself Martok said, "Yes, I've heard of you," meaning that the real Martok never met Worf. So how did this blood trick work?
They really nailed the "angry black male" with the Klingons and Sisko. The Klingons were fine but Sisko was just annoying, uppity even. Plus, he must have been the only black father who didn't abandon his kids in the whole alpha quadrant.
klingons remind me of cowards and bullies who hide behind a false sense of so called honor, I've met several people like that on earth as well. they wait until they can strike with no one around as cowards always do.
I love the fact that Garak could have called for security but instead he just starts insulting the Klingons.
Garak and Quark both know that when it comes to the security of the station, the safest place is right next to Odo. He didn’t call for help because he knew Odo could handle it.
@@DrewSavo I'm pretty sure OP is referring to Garak being surrounded by the Klingons at the end of the clip. And honestly, there was no point in calling Odo by then anyways. They would've beat to a pulp if he tried.
Thought Garak was the security on DS9?
@@StevenHughes-hr5hp He is a simple tailor. You see his clothing shop here.
He got in several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos! 😆
"I don't take orders from shapeshifters" - currently under the command of Changeling Martok
So the blood test was useless too?
Also foreshadowing the Gul Dukat super heel turn
It's a good thing Odo sent Morn away. He would have wiped the floor with the Klingons.
I bet the Klingons would run just from the sound of Morn’s shouting. Truly a bone chilling sound.
Morn loves all the smoke and looking for more… dude’s a savage lmaooooo
And then he would haven't shut up gloating about it in Quark's later.
Morn once broke a data pad in anger. The piece ran away and became the Borg
Norm! Norman.
4:16 - Odo: "I can't take off my uniform... I AM, the uniform!"
Does that mean the women who say they are the table are changelings? Lol
Its nice to see how Odo and Garak are still having breakfast after the events of The Die is Cast, as Odo knew its the only time Garak is able to relax socially (lunch with Julian). And I really like how with the cup trick Odo is doing his best to be as ‘involved’ in it as he can.
I’ve said it before: the most appealing and enthralling part of the show was the relationships between characters.
Actually Odo started joining Garak for breakfast after the events of the The Die is Cast. Odo stated that he was doing so as the last scene in that episode.
@@javaman7199Odo told him he doesn't have breakfast in that that you are referencing
It's unlikely this was intentional, but Odo's producing of coffee in the cup after drinking it demonstrates how changeling Martok was able to fool Sisko and Kira. Absorb blood, and produce it at will.
I was about to make the same comment 😅
The coffee is part of Odo's body, as it never stops touching him. Changeling Martok must have used fake blood or real blood from another being, like how Joseph Sisko suggested it might be done.
Chekov's coffee
@@Rubyofthedead yah true. if a changeling can "hold" blood in a pack somewhere in the body, they can easily have a small supply underneath the "epidermis" that drops out on a knife cut.. similar to how IRL people hide from urine/blood testing.
@@Rubyofthedead Thanks, I forgot about that part.
And that is why Garak was such a lovable character 😄
Ion Knight it’s because he’s such a good tailor!
@@aztn19 that too, yes lol
Garak saw the head-stomping coming, he looked it right in the eyes and promptly mocked it before getting beat down.
I love that guy.
I like the attention to detail that when Odo gets up to break up the disturbance, the cup of coffee is gone. To any other character, that would have been an error, but since we just got the explanation that both the cup AND coffee are a part of Odo, it being gone is him reabsorbing it to carry out his duties. It being PRESENT after he leaves would have been the error. That's some good forward thinking.
I thought the coffee and the coffeecup were real.
The craziest thing about where Martok insists on everyone shedding blood to reveal they’re not Changelings… is that *HE’S A CHANGELING.*
When they later save the real Martok from the Dominion POW camp, he'd never met any of the DS9 crew. So the Founders either found a solution for blood screens almost right away, or maybe they never even worked AT ALL!
Or it was piss poor writing. All they could have done was just say he changed his mind about supporting the attack against the cards and supporting the attack against and he was later kidnapped
@@attiepollard7847 I don't see it as poor writing at all. It makes perfect sense for Changeling Martok to support attacking the Cardassians. The more infighting in the Alpha quadrant the better, and this war with the Klingons is what lead the Cardassians to join the Dominion.
@@KingAdrock420 yes but that blood crap don't make any damn sense the minute he started dripping blood and he should have turned into a changeling.
@@attiepollard7847 It's later made clear that the Founders found a way around blood screenings. This just shows they figured it out MUCH sooner than the Federation anticipated. This works greatly to the Changeling's advantage, as they never suspect him. Even when they figure out he WAS replaced, they first assume it happened much later.
@@KingAdrock420 but was it made clear before they got to the station because if not I call that piss poor writing
Little does he know, Odo is technically naked at all times.
I just realized...
They brought a total of FIVE Klingon "warriors" to beat up a single Cardassian tailor.
Can't wait to hear the glorious song about this battle.
They know better... He is no ordinary tailor
@@cteal2018 But he is a very good tailor.
@@nispelsm The things he can do with a sewing needle and trimming scissors...........
I always get a kick out of how they always slice their palm in the movies. One of the worst place to cut yourself.
In fact I wonder how the special effects people pull that off as I can hardly imagine the actors cutting their real skin.
I've accidentally sliced my palm on multiple occasions in the kitchen and while it hurt like hell, it was never any sort of critical injury -- I just wrapped it up and powered through the pain. Not sure why you think it's such a nasty place to get cut.
...Also, yes, I know there's no reasonable explanation for cutting my palm in the kitchen, I was a stupid kid when I was learning to cook.
@@CoralCopperHead Yeah, but it is hard to get it to heal, because you keep opening the wound when you use your hand. Plus, in the movies, they really bear down, like they are digging for gold.
Oh yeah I'll explain. The knife isn't real. Sharp as a spoon. The hand and the knife are treated with chemical compound that turns red when applied.
An older Hollywood trick.
I'm certain that you could find videos on yt about it.
@@FekLeyrTarg They just already had the fake blood on their palm. Notice how they never show the clean hand first, then have the knife come in and cut. Instead, they have the knife already "cutting" where the fake blood was poured, so that it looks like they're drawing blood.
Odo should've shape shifted into different clothes and just gone: "Feeling Targy? Leap."
A variation on the classic Hawk line from "Homecoming", the SPENSER:FOR HIRE season 3 opener...
"Anytime you want! You feelin' froggish, now LEAP!!"
It's nice to know that in the 24th century, grown adults still play with their food.
Wait that's how the founders get past blood letting test. If odo can fool others as if he is drinking and refilling a mug with coffee, ant changling can get around the bleeding
@jasonpierce4518 what bens father said is their trick, they take someones blood and spit it out, as martok had done.
3 random things from this clip.
1: Odo isn't wearing anything clothes 🤫
2: Martock is a changing 🤫
3: The coffee cup is a gentle reminder to Sisko's Dad I paraphrase, how do you know I'm not some changing who killed some poor guy and sucked up their blood to later produce on command.🤓
"Oh you'd be surprised at the things you can learn while doing alterations." Garrick is one sick man, lol.
The way he rubs it at 1:00 *Yup, feels human*
That wasn't very honourable 5 Klingons against poor Garak
Five grown Klingons against one simple humble tailor? The nerve!
Those poor Klingons wouldn't stand a chance
@@benjaminoechsli1941 Yeah, they should have brought 10 to even the odds.
Love Garak.
It's a shame we never had more social interactions between Garak and Odo.
How did this changeling Martok pass this test?
He had a pack of blood hidden.
@@BrotherDerrick3X I've never been convinced by that. When Odo was saying about him having tried to eat, he said it just fell through him and made a mess on the ground. I'm not sure a pack of blood could be carried as such for long enough
@@timorgano remember that the Founders were better at holding their form than Odo. Odo also was never able to change into a humanoid form.
Presumably he took some random Klingon's blood and hid it inside him, precisely how Sisko's father suggested.
@@redpillfreedom6692 I’d always thought that was what happened too
Joke's on that Klingon, Odo's uniform is actually just part of him!
Legend says the burn from Garak's insult was felt by that Klingon's mother.
We have been sent here to fight along side our federation allies! Love that!
01:10 Station janitor be like after the meeting: Who's bloody mess is this on the table?!?
I love the fact that changeling Martok wanted everyone to do the changeling blood test. He was very committed to the role.
Props to Quark who knew the Klingons were up to something before anybody else.
It would've been in character if Kira had rolled her eyes, rolled up her sleeve and cut herself on the arm like a sensible person, rather than slicing open her palm like the idiots in movies always do.
"Now that that's over with my hand is bleeding like a sonbitch and I'm getting lightheaded. Get Dr. Bashir up here imm--"
Wasn’t Martok a Changeling in this scene?
Correct.
Odo and Garak having a civil conversation...and underneath it lies Garak's security question about Cardassia, which he knows Odo can handle expertly. So while they might piss each other off sometimes, they also respect each other's abilities, which is one of the great things about DS9. Odo also handles Drex expertly...but of course Drex is immature enough not to take the hint.
Garak knew what Henry Hill knew. “Everybody takes a beating sometime”.
I would buy a four-piece set of those cups
I remember this part
I wonder how movie people can always cut their palms without even flinching. That shit *hurts*.
I miss this show.
Was this before or after Martok was replaced by a changling
so martok was a changling in this ep and was able to pass the hand cutting blood test?
I do seem to recall that later on in the show, it was revealed that the changelings had figured out how to fake the blood test, which was obviously an upsetting revelation. I also seem to recall that, before that point, a changeling was impersonating a doctor, and he was able to fake the blood-test essentially the same way Odo did the coffee trick, by generating his "blood" in the "test-tube" that he was holding.
fair do's to the sound effete people, you can here small details behind conversations of the food replecatoes etc's something of my first viewing never noticed,
You know even though it's not revealed until the next season, I bet the real reason Martok was rubbing the blood around the table was so he could actually reabsorb the liquid in his body.
I wonder why they never brought Martok's son back for later episodes of DS9? He was portrayed just in this one episode with Worf taking his knife away at Quarks Bar.
A few years after, Obi Ndefo, who played Martok's son Drex lost both of his legs in a hit and run. A few months ago, he passed away.
Hey remember when Klingon blood used to be pink? I never understood why they dropped that on DS9 and beyond.
Wasn't this Changeling Martok? He still has both eyes. And we first meet the Real Martok with a missing eye.
Is that the real Martok or is he a changeling at this point? He could have a prothesis or something on his hand that would release blood because he knows exactly where he will cut himself
Am I the only one who thinks it’s a little refreshing that their first method of identifying Changelings wasn’t effective? It also shows how dangerous they really are
That’s not martok.
“Does your mother allow you to speak to men?”
“ yes!! She told me that part of my job as a security officer was to confront people who harassed people in public.”
Martock had a messed up eye…is this the episode when they are in the simulation?
No. This is (as revealed much later) a Changeling posing as Martok.
I believe the cup trick shown was intended as a subtle hint that Changelings had fine control over liquids from their own bodies even if they fake other liquids, hence the knife test worked the way it did.
So was this Martok a Founder? And if so how did he pass the blood test? Or was Martok taken after the Klingon / Cardassian war started? Inquiring minds . . .
If you pay attention to Odo's explanation at the end about absorbing coffee and being able to produce it through his body afterwards, it's implied that changelings can do that with any liquid, including blood. They just put it inside their body and release it when needed
@@AlexMartinez-dl9xi Joseph Sisko: If I was a smart shapeshifter, a really good one, the first thing I would do would be to grab some poor soul off the street, absorb every ounce of his blood, and let it out on cue whenever someone like you tried to test me! Don't you see? There isn't a test that's been created a smart man can't find his way around. You aren't going to catch shapeshifters using some gadget! The only thing you can count on in this life…"
Sorry Odo, I can chew my finger nails and regrow them too.
Essentially your coffee trick
just sayin.
so inthis episode, this is the real martock?
That would make staff meetings more interesting.
Wrong blood Martok....silly changeling, Klingon blood is pink not red.
So can you spontaneously "opt out" of the univeral translator if you want something you say to go uninterpreted?
Wouldn't the universal translator translate the Klingon dialect automatically?
Five against one? Doesn't seem very... honourable.
klingon have red blood?
And Martok’s the real changing in the room and sent there to weaken Cardassia and Klingon empire by starting a war between them. Then gets a bonus with dissolution of Klingon-federation alliance.
I just realised, they were not able to show a woman cutting herself on prime time TV. Even tho she is the toughest sob on the show. Did they ever show the Duras Sisters doing any Klingon cutting stuff?
Why the h*ll can't they show a woman cutting herself? What difference does the gender of the person make? Kira did just about everything that her male counterparts did, what line would be crossed by her cutting her palm?
Did they fix Martok's eye?
the only inaccuracy i see is that in star trek 6 Klingon blood looked a little like pink Jello
I thought that Klingon blood was a purple-pink color.
I thought Klingon blood wasnt red? See star trek V
When did they get to mardok
Martok
The blood will tell..that's a tshirt.
This Matov is the chnagling, right??
Martok
Yes but that was bad writing
Isn’t Klingon blood supposed to be purple?
Stupid question
Is that the real martok? before the pow camp.
This is clearly before the pow camp, as the Dominion is not allied with Cardassia yet.. but it could technically be before he is captured.
I did write stupid question.
@@jawstrock2215 Martok was captured well before the tensions began with the Federation. In the later episode with the prison camp, Martok greets Worf saying he "has heard of him", implying they never met but perhaps heard stories of him (Martok always been a Gowron supporter).
Having ODO - a Shapeshifter - who has been in contact with the shapeshifters as he's linked with them before - is probably the greatest security threat you could possibly dream of.
Would the FBI, CIA, or NSA allow North Korean, Iranian or Chinese intelligence to "visit" our top security advisers from time to time and have long intimate conversations?
Star Trek - Deep Space Helium
Why ask to see their blood when literally anything in that room could be a changeling.
I’m white and I’m not seeing why blacks were treated differently back than. The blood is the same as mine
Gen martok was a changling how did he beat the blood test.
One scene later you see Odo absorbing and producing coffee inside of his cup, displaying a changeling's ability to create various liquids. A Chekhov's Cup, if you will.
I think that was piss poor writing in ds9 I would have bought that marktok was a changeling after the war woth the feds and he had changed his mind and he was later kidnapped by the Dominion and replaced
This had to be the Changling pretending to be Martok, right? Because when they found him in the Dominion prison camp, Martok didn't recognize Worf, and once Worf introduced himself Martok said, "Yes, I've heard of you," meaning that the real Martok never met Worf. So how did this blood trick work?
They really nailed the "angry black male" with the Klingons and Sisko. The Klingons were fine but Sisko was just annoying, uppity even. Plus, he must have been the only black father who didn't abandon his kids in the whole alpha quadrant.
klingons remind me of cowards and bullies who hide behind a false sense of so called honor, I've met several people like that on earth as well. they wait until they can strike with no one around as cowards always do.