I'm surprised they ever hold a funeral on Star Trek without first waiting a few years to see if the supposedly deceased was victim of a freak, but reversible accident.
Agreed. Lindsay Ballard in Voyager. Or Data in the episode the most toys. Or Harry Kim in deadlocked. Or Picard in Gambit. Or Tasha Yar (she returns in yesterday's enterprise).
@@colin-campbell I think the cloaking device is supposed to be cloaking all of them, not just the visual, so it probably has something to do with phasing..
Colin Campbell Geordi and Ro are out of phase, so the sound waves they create would also be out of phase with any auditory detection method that was non-phased. Of course, that raises the question of how anything is visible to them, but the speed of light is constant while the speed of sound is relative, I guess?
@Ellisar Atranimus Because if the speed of gravity, like light, is constant (though this is speculation for us in the 21st Century) then it is also unaffected by the phasing. The system that generates a gravity field which is presumably under each deck, still sticks them to the floor, but if it were turned off they would fall through.
@@blazerocker1734 I wonder what we can put down for today? I think there is Netflix comedy funeral show. I think it is called, "Buried Banard's," or something like that. I do not have Netflix but work does for the break room. I think I saw something similar to that title. So today we can try, "Buried Banard's, putting the 'FUN,' back in funeral." Unless, I messed up the actual title of the show.
Sorry Ensign, looks like your not getting your own quarters today, I'll replicate your old sleeping bag and put it back in the jefferys tube where you belong
I think the absolute best part is when Data, Dr. Crusher, Ro and Geordi are all center screen receiving critical plot advancing information and the director still managed to make the focal point of the scene riker playing the trombone in the background.
I had no idea what was going on... I thought that Bajoran was shooting around the room with a fake weapon to add light effects to the party. It wasn't until they shouted at Worf to see them where I got the message that they are intangible and invisible.
Terrans will have evolved beyond the primative and worthless impulses of emotional outbursts. The Vulcan are far more evolved and developed than Terrans and completely repress emotions. Terrans will eventually be like Vulcan. Terran evolution may have slowed tragically upon the later part of the 20th century. But it is likely it sped up again later.
Now that I think about it, you're right. Even Data got more action in this series than Geordi. What did he get? He's been brainwashed by both the Klingons AND the Romulans. You're telling me he can fix your warp drive but not get a date? That's just wrong.
Re: Andy Can we now understand where that other officer was coming from - the one from "Measure of a Man" who wanted to mass-produce Data without his consent? He actually had good intentions.
Right! Wouldn't his command codes and access to systems have been removed? Wouldn't the ship see the appearance of his comm badge as a potential security threat? So much of this makes no sense.
@@TheGreatWerebear This is the ship where the holodeck delivers real people who try to kill them on a semi-regular basis, and where a god (Q) comes to visit. Two 'dead' crewmen resurrecting in public is something to raise an eyebrow over.
@Rata 4U You don't watch much Star Trek, do you :P The Enterprise crew is slightly more military-esc in Next Gen but even so you definitely see randos freaking out over all kinds of stuff. Plus, there are totally civilians on board the Enterprise.
she would just be picking up brain waves. if other forms of energy coming off them couldn't interact with the world then some weak EM fields coming from their brains wouldn't.
"Come on, Data, put it all together!" "Sir, it appears ghosts are in fact real. Based on traditional knowledge of these entities, I recommend we combust some aromatic plant matter, and arrange quartz fragments in geometric pattern around the room in an attempt to banish them." "Make it so." "NO DAMMIT DATA!"
They didn't seem too excited when they found out they were still alive. You think someone in the room would have said *OH MY GOD THEY'RE STILL ALIVE!!*
"I had to take a double-shift to come to a party for these so-called dead officers." "Did you ever see a non-com security officer come back from the dead? Did you hell."
Data: "I believe I may know what happened sir." Geordi: "Oh Data, Please Be Right!" Data: "When Geordi and Ro died their spirits got trapped in limbo and are unable to move on. We should remember them as they were, that way they can move safely on sir." Picard: "Right! Captain to bridge! Ensign, warp factor 8. Engage!" Geordi & Ro: "DAMMIT!"🤦♂️🤦♀️
@@Unplanted He did it in " Measure of a Man " in a scene between Riker & Data post - trial. Riker was in deep thought, Data explains why Riker was chosen as prosecutor. Data tells him " I will not forget ", & Riker makes with a genuinely happy grin.
I wondered that too when I watched this episode. Maybe the gravity plating had an effect. Also they would still be affected by the inertial dampers otherwise they would find themselves out in space anytime the ship changed course or speed.
@@noahsmith4505 Michelle Forbes was pretty, and originally intended to be the main 'Kira' character in DS9. How I wish she'd taken that role instead of Nana Visitor and her awful hair!
I think that is why I haven't watched it straight through since 2008. I have watched Voyager twice since then. Enterprise almost 3 times. And most of ds9 twice.
Okay, I won't lie, this coaxed ridiculous laughter out of me for a hard minute. Because, yeah.... Turns out Riker did a *TON* of weird S___ in the show that I NEVER paid attention to. Like his bizarre chair sitting. Or the fact that, in TNG, Worf gets shut down and his a$$ kicked in like.... Every episode. Almost without fail, he gets stomped on. Poor Worf. By god, Riker is just having the *best time* at his friend's funeral!! And I found that friggin' hilarious. How did I *miss* this? His enthusiasm for his buddy's death of like, 5 years, is astounding. It's infectious.
There are indeed a lot of weird Riker behaviors in various episodes. However, in this case I think Riker was just trying to celebrate his shipmates' life by really getting into the whole wake mindset fully instead of mourning them and depressing everyone, including himself.
Giving that he only seems "giddy" for about 2 minutes out of the entire show, is hard to agree with what you are saying without thinking you're being overly dramatic
I don't think they gave a second thought to it when writing/filming but it can be explained away just as a human reaction, particularly as the situation was still new to them.
@@JustJohnny The floors do not follow out-of-phase-laws. Nor do inertial dampeners. Also when you look closely, while throwing himself down, Geordie's foot foot bumps into the bench. Please watch Stargate SG-1's 100th episode for further information. ;-)
I took it as a matter of physics/continuity. If they were both in phase, a disrupter overload would have seriously injured and possibly killed both of them. As it was, they and the disrupter were out of phase. Thus, a disrupter overload might still have injured/killed them.
For all their training, it never occurs to Geordi or Ro to actually spell out a message by screwing with the matter/fabric or whatever technobabble it was. Geordi literally touches a panel in front of Data, and Data noticed that particular panel has been affected by said technobabble. Geordi repeats, Data repeats. All Geordi had to do was to write out "Help me Data" by running his finger across a panel like writing on a chalkboard.
It's been awhile since I've seen the episode but I always assumed the crynoton particles (or however you spell that) they generated were like dust in the air. Something you couldn't clearly make out a pattern from other than a dust cloud or like a swarm of gnats of sorts.
The episode seems to suggest that the readings cannot be localized so narrowly. Data can only tell when there are emissions in a general vicinity, not their precise origin. LaForge is highly intelligent, so the fact that he doesn't "write a message" tells us it wasn't an option.
Ha, good one! Data response: "A most humorous remark, Geordi. May I add that we were attempting with this ceremony to put the FUN in FUNeral." *awkward silence* La Forge: "You can be a real a-hole, Data"
Could have been worse. imagine if they went desperate and ended up consoling each other with effusions and then they accidentally uncloak them while they are buttnaked and going at it.
Kira was better than Ro *but* it was a huge missed opportunity to not have Ro complete her arc on DS9 during the Marqui stuff. Ro meeting Kira would have been great.
Completely different characters. I much prefer the way liras character played out. I really really like Ro Laren and it would have been nice to have her involved in ds9 somehow, but it wouldnt have been possible to straight swap the two. They are too different.
All music on TV is pre-recorded and the actors mime to it; ensures they don't lose time to mess ups while playing. There's a great blooper from Frasier where Kelsey Grammar misses his cue and the piano appears to play itself.
@@DomWeasel I don't think that's true. Hugh Laurie has been featured with quite some depth and focus with his piano playing as House. It may be mostly true, but I'd fully buy it if someone who's truly skilled at an instrument plays and is recorded on set
@@roguishpaladin Hugh Laurie played the piano and guitar on House and even wrote a few pieces for House (Cuddy's Song) but they still pre-record the audio and have the actor mime when they film the scene. This way they have clean audio to work with when it comes to sound editing. I'm not talking about those moments where he plays a few notes while talking to someone; I mean the scenes where he plays to a montage. That's Hugh Laurie's music but recorded in a proper studio and not on a TV set. In this Star Trek example, the actors are miming with their instruments so that the actors who are speaking aren't drowned out or start speaking loudly to be heard. They layer the instrument music over the speech later in post-production. In the film Das Boot, the actors all recorded their dialogue after filming and it was dubbed in because it was too noisy on set for them to be heard.
Jonathan Frakes played trombone in the Penn State marching band, but he's not as good as he sounds on screen. When Commander Riker played the trombone on screen you were hearing Bill Watrous.
How does the matter-cloaking also cloak the energy of their communicators? The radio waves or other radiation would have to stay cloaked far from their bodies to not interact with the rest of the ship. And then Geordie’s comm badge signal magically works when he de-cloaks?
This particular effect was effectively being out of sync with the rest of the universe. "Using his ability to look through the casing, La Forge discovers that a central device in the Romulan engine room is a molecular phase inverter, which can transform normal matter so it will pass through other matter and energy." Effectively, even if they did generate a signal, it wouldn't be received.
It's all a hand waving conceit for the episode. It all kinda collapses when you really think about it. How do they walk through walls but not fall through the floors? How do they ride turbolifts if they go through walls? How are they breathing the ship's air? We ignore the gaping plot holes because it's an entertaining episode.
@@dmk941 Well, assuming the ship's artificial gravity still pulls them, it's not THAT much of a stretch to say "oh because the artificial gravity doesn't work inside flooring panels, they don't get pulled through" BUT yeah the breathing thing is definitely purely nonsensical
Not only did they have great stories and amazing acting they also had insane episodes like that. I love it. Something this silly and great almost never happens in todays shows.
Missed opportunity where they could've had, in a later episode, Riker slowly dying from brain degeneration. Beverly does a scan and mentions "I can't understand these strange readings. Apparently a faint residual hole has burrowed through your head as if a phaser beam went right through it". All the staff is puzzled to how this came about and when Ro learns of it, keeps to herself as she knew nobody would ever figure this little secret out.
Good point - he saved their asses many times - he saved their asses when everyone was under the mind control of the Ricean video-game brainwashing-thingie during Wesley's vacation from Starfleet Academy.
To be fair he only helped here with a bit of theory... captain Picard would have figured it out - first he’d call on Riker “captain I think you need some rest ... maybe it as my trombone playing”.... but then he’d have called some unheralded scientific staff. Even O’Brien would have figured it out eventually.
How I miss STTNG. Superb acting and excellent scripts. It was great to watch the crew grow together and become almost family-like as the series progressed.
Apparently there was a cut line explaining that they had to put effort into walking through the walls... But even that doesn't hold up to scrutiny, cuz they're seen running through them like they're nothing in other parts. I hate to say it, but I think this is one of those moments where you have to suspend your disbelief. Unfortunate, cuz it's otherwise a great episode.
I know what i'll do once phase cloaks become normal, i'll construct everything out of the same material as the floors to counteract the phased cloak effect!
When I watched this episode for the first time, even at 10-ish years old my first thought was how are they not floating around in the out of phase space, and how are they breathing lol. Got even more complicated when they pushed the Romulan through the hull into space - so he can pass through a wall but not the floor?
@@RyGuy5320 In the script there was a line about how they had to put some effort in to pass through things, and even Geordie deliberately sinking through the floor of the transporter room to get to the crawlway below. Somewhere both these were lost, I think the latter was due to cost. In VOY 'Distant Origin' when examining the personal phasing cloak of the Vorth Tuvok and Paris actually cover all these points and explain them. So you can reverse engineer that to this.
One thing I always thought with this one that should have happened: Geordi used to have problems when it came to women. If he and Ro had gotten along well after this episode, the two would have made a great couple.
Ro would beat that poor boy into submission in bed. She would need an alpha. That's why when they all lost their memories she immediately hooked up with Riker.
Small moments in episodes like this is why Ro Laren is one of my favourite Star Trek characters, even though she's only appeared in a handful of episodes in just one series
The TNG cast is a rarity in that the entire cast was, is, and always will be one big clique. They talk frequently about how uncomfortable they made others during the original run when filming lol. So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they did
Everyone going on about floors and air and I'm here wondering how that dude in Engineering knew that Captain Picard would be in the same room as dead Geordi.
"Everyone going on about floors and air and I'm here wondering how that dude in Engineering knew that Captain Picard would be in the same room as dead Geordi." ...because he's mad that he doesn't even get to attend his boss and friend's funeral, because someone has to work engineering, but also conflicted because he's the new chief engineer, so he's EVEN MORE aware than most people that the funeral is now, that Picard is there, and that he's missing it. And the next person up in his chain of command as chief engineer IS the captain, so when he receives an order he suspects might be invalid, what with it being from a dead guy and so might be someone trying to fuck with the Enterprise using exactly the kind of exploit that might work with credentials that just became available, he does what he's SUPPOSED to do and report the suspicious order to the Captain, who is in the same room he knows the order was transmitted from, because he has some competence as a chief engineer and can trace a damned phone call.
@@czos9239 she still made the uniform look great lol even at age 54 or so Michelle Forbes is pretty good looking IMO and I tend to like the characters she plays, good bad doesn't matter, some she really has some fun with like the Goddess Circi in DCUO, deliciously evil lolz
That was a great episode. From the greatest sci-fi show of all time. "We're dead, Geordi." "We have to make peace with our former lives." "I always thought I knew exactly what would happen to me when I died. When this happened, I started to question everything I believed. It made me think I must have been really arrogant to think that I knew everything. Now I don't know what to believe." "Well, if we can teach Ro Laren some humility, then maybe anything is possible."
"I've set this disruptor on overload, which will explode with the power of a grenade. Now let's stay in the same room with it and duck behind the furniture which will offer us absolutely no protection whatsoever."
I remember watching this episode and thinking how bizarre it was how quickly everyone moved on from their supposed deaths its like because they werent really killing a character off, the cast decided they didnt need to put in all that effort required to act depressed or express grief.
1:52 Irresponsible of the producers to show the details of putting the disrupter in over-load. Impressionable youmg eyes are watching and dad's disrupter in the closet may not have a lock on it.
Me too, it's such a joyful, triumphant, fist-in the air moment! :-) How the crew could be so cold-faced at their return to life is beyond me! I think even data should have been emotional at this point!
“I believe I know what has happened Captain!” “Yes, Data!” “This part of space is rife with…G-g-g-g-ghosts!” “NO DATA!” “Let’s get out of here! Go to Warp right now!” “Captain!? WHY?!
Plot twist: Worf did actually see them, he just didn't care.
Worf was standing at the drinks table smashing them back and didn't want anyone to cancel the funeral.
Ro and Geordi: Hey we are still here!
Worf: Living with my Russian parents did nothing to prepare me for how crazy these damn humans are.
One less Lieutenant Commander. More room for promotion.
HAHAHAHA
Nothing will get between Worf and his prune juice.
Geordi: dies
Riker: *Party Time*
Spat out my drink
::Sad trombone::
Any excuse to play the 'bone, and grab some intergalactic sniz.
Too funny. It should have been a somber mood, yet he's never been happier. Lol
Data plan the party
I'm surprised they ever hold a funeral on Star Trek without first waiting a few years to see if the supposedly deceased was victim of a freak, but reversible accident.
Agreed. Lindsay Ballard in Voyager. Or Data in the episode the most toys. Or Harry Kim in deadlocked. Or Picard in Gambit. Or Tasha Yar (she returns in yesterday's enterprise).
@@troyterry6919 I think you skipped a few episodes of that happening to poor Mr. Kim there. The man died like it was going out of style.
@@Nobody1707 True, he died several times. Neelix also died I remember.
@@troyterry6919 An they use borg tech to bring him back. This was never mention again.
@@DavidKnowles0 yep, apparently 7/9 just reserves the ability to bring back only the people she likes
"set the anionic beam to its highest level and flood Ten Forward." **everybody except data dies** "well, it was worth a try."
Picard's dying breath: but you said.... anions.... were harmless (dies)
Data: harmless to me
Are the voices being cloaked too? That doesn’t make sense.
@@colin-campbell I think the cloaking device is supposed to be cloaking all of them, not just the visual, so it probably has something to do with phasing..
Colin Campbell Geordi and Ro are out of phase, so the sound waves they create would also be out of phase with any auditory detection method that was non-phased. Of course, that raises the question of how anything is visible to them, but the speed of light is constant while the speed of sound is relative, I guess?
@Ellisar Atranimus Because if the speed of gravity, like light, is constant (though this is speculation for us in the 21st Century) then it is also unaffected by the phasing. The system that generates a gravity field which is presumably under each deck, still sticks them to the floor, but if it were turned off they would fall through.
Riker puts the, "fun," in funeral!
@Supersquid Nice pun, very nice. It belongs on this thread. Well played. Very well played. Live long and prosper.
Indrid Cold - That would have made a very interesting t-shirt back in the 90s.
@@blazerocker1734 I wonder what we can put down for today? I think there is Netflix comedy funeral show. I think it is called, "Buried Banard's," or something like that. I do not have Netflix but work does for the break room. I think I saw something similar to that title. So today we can try, "Buried Banard's, putting the 'FUN,' back in funeral." Unless, I messed up the actual title of the show.
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He's been waiting years for Geordi to die.
"Worf, do you see us?!"
"I ain't drunk enough for this shit..."
Don't stick around here, idiots, sto'bo'kor is THAT way!
Worf spends the whole episode trying to convince everyone he is not crazy. I hate those plots.
"Romulan Ale should be illegal...."
Drink more Glaaack!!!
"REALLY good tea. Nice funeral."
Am I the only one here who feels sorry for the new engineering chief who just learned he's not getting that promotion after all?
And fix those replicators on deck 3, when you're done with the induction coils in Jefferies tube 10.
Sorry Ensign, looks like your not getting your own quarters today, I'll replicate your old sleeping bag and put it back in the jefferys tube where you belong
Back to cleaning the nozzles of the chicken soup dispensers on Z Shift.
Miles Lougheed yes
Given the track record for non-Geordi chief engineers on the Enterprise D, I suspect he was fairly relieved.
I think the absolute best part is when Data, Dr. Crusher, Ro and Geordi are all center screen receiving critical plot advancing information and the director still managed to make the focal point of the scene riker playing the trombone in the background.
At 0:30 he's really going at it.
Oh. My. Gosh.
~🤣🤣😂😆😂😁😂😂😆😁🤣🤣😬😂😁😆😬☠️☠️☠️☠️
I'm dead.....😅😅😅
@ 2:05
@ 2:26
@ 2:48
@ 3:11
And so on......
😆💜😆💜😆
It's too bad the notes in the song don't sync up to his playing positions
Picard: "What are they doing?"
Data: "It is all right, sir. They are engaged."
Picard: "Well, tell them to disengage and get off the floor."
Engage
Oh wow didn’t know Ro liked people enough to get married
Data: “They have been disengaged, sir.
Picard: “Well done, Mr Data. Now let’s get underway.”
*BA DUM TSSS*
Id engage with Ro
New Chief Engineer: Captain, who gave that order?
Captain: Your demotion.
Wait'll he sees Georgi's face . . . 😜💯
Ikr 😅
An ensign became the new chief?
If anything O'Brian, if he was still on the enterprise. Would have gotten it.
From Chief Engineer to Ensign
Captain: Bring me some tea new Wesley. Earl Grey, hot!
I liked the episode where an alien wiped everyone's memory and Riker and Ro looked at each other and figured, "Yeah, we're a couple."
Best hatefucking ever.
"For all we know, we could hate each other." - Ro
What episode is that
@@Storytime4now6767 Season 5, episode 14. Conundrum.
To be fair, it could have happened to whoever was standing next to Riker.
I had no idea what was going on...
I thought that Bajoran was shooting around the room with a fake weapon to add light effects to the party.
It wasn't until they shouted at Worf to see them where I got the message that they are intangible and invisible.
Watching Trek clips out of context can be a trip
This was out of context for me too the first time I watched it, I just kinda figured that's what people did at parties in the future
Broockle leftists would NOT approve of gratuitous toy phaser usage!!
datacipher (shoots you with a disruptor)
For the record, this is TNG 5x24 "The Next Phase". Really good episode imo.
I love how 'happy' but not really emotional everyone is to see those two again.
Just another day in starfleet and on the enterprise lol.
If you think about it the acting is pretty bad for this scene
Terrans will have evolved beyond the primative and worthless impulses of emotional outbursts. The Vulcan are far more evolved and developed than Terrans and completely repress emotions. Terrans will eventually be like Vulcan. Terran evolution may have slowed tragically upon the later part of the 20th century. But it is likely it sped up again later.
@@indridcold8433 God I hate Vulcans.
It's also a super dangerous work environment. You have to learn to deal with accidents.
That was the most female affection Geordie's had since he hooked up with Leah Brahms in the holodeck.
😂😂😂
Now that I think about it, you're right. Even Data got more action in this series than Geordi. What did he get? He's been brainwashed by both the Klingons AND the Romulans. You're telling me he can fix your warp drive but not get a date? That's just wrong.
Of course there was the alien lifeform that assimilated the dog that was giving Geordi some serious attention.
Georgi best pick up line to Dr. Brahm: "I think of you every time I touch a warp engine." 😁😁🤣🤣
Data got Tasha Yar (multiple techniques). Geordi sees an attractive woman and is like “set course for the friend zone, maximum warp”
Imagine all the officers that have been lost due to NOT having an android like Data on board 😪😞
And all those plot holes left unfilled!
Or Spock
Re: Andy
Can we now understand where that other officer was coming from - the one from "Measure of a Man" who wanted to mass-produce Data without his consent? He actually had good intentions.
@@perfectsplit5515 yes, however he failed to look past his desperation to help star fleet and think about what he was doing.
Always makes me wonder what the casualty rates on the other Starfleet vessels are?
Data: I believe I may know what has happened sir.
Geordi: Oh Data please be right!
Data: Someone spiked the punch.
And those ghosts you saw... you're just a little drunk... let's go to warp.
Geordi: FUCK!
Riker: Womp Womp Wowowowo..
ChrispyCharizard Data: [takes sip] Captain, upon further inspection of the punch, I am detecting immense qualities of lysergic acid diethylamide.
@@silverpslm LMFAO comment of the year award.
"Laforge to engineering."
"I'm sorry, _WHO_ to engineering?"
Not funny Carl!
Did they already forget him?
@@DPMusicStudio generic black engineer man
"The guy with the spray-painted hair band on his face!"
Right! Wouldn't his command codes and access to systems have been removed? Wouldn't the ship see the appearance of his comm badge as a potential security threat? So much of this makes no sense.
0:00 I love Ro shooting everything! It’s just so comical somehow!
She shot right through his head, and he was completely oblivious to it!
@@perfectsplit5515 Shame that didn't work for the other XO she shot in the head...
Love that she doesn't seem to check whether shooting Riker in the head with a phased disruptor is safe or not.
It's SO in character for her.
If you liked that, you should see
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Absolutely none of the extras in Ten Forward appears even slightly put off by seeing two presumed dead crew men appear on the floor.
Why waste a good party?
It's the Enterprise - just the daily dose of impossible and/or weird.
You'd think at least one or two people would scream or exclaim or something.
@@TheGreatWerebear This is the ship where the holodeck delivers real people who try to kill them on a semi-regular basis, and where a god (Q) comes to visit. Two 'dead' crewmen resurrecting in public is something to raise an eyebrow over.
@Rata 4U You don't watch much Star Trek, do you :P The Enterprise crew is slightly more military-esc in Next Gen but even so you definitely see randos freaking out over all kinds of stuff. Plus, there are totally civilians on board the Enterprise.
Technically, Deanna should know that they are there
she would just be picking up brain waves. if other forms of energy coming off them couldn't interact with the world then some weak EM fields coming from their brains wouldn't.
And they should be falling through the floors
she's useless lolol
no. Not if the waves were moving at a different rate. etc.
@rinoz47 They’d actually be compacted by gravitons from the gravimetric plating, like a tiny black hole. Instant spaghetification, anyone?
Pretty lukewarm reaction to seeing your recently dead colleagues materialize in front of you.
Nobody likes party crashers.
Man after 5 years of weird shit in space this stuff just becomes par for the course
Compared to Data who literally doesn't care, the rest were ecstatic.
@@StrayCatInTheStreets ^^ this lol
Maybe they were all in denial. I heard that is the first stage of grief.
"Come on, Data, put it all together!" "Sir, it appears ghosts are in fact real. Based on traditional knowledge of these entities, I recommend we combust some aromatic plant matter, and arrange quartz fragments in geometric pattern around the room in an attempt to banish them." "Make it so." "NO DAMMIT DATA!"
They didn't seem too excited when they found out they were still alive. You think someone in the room would have said *OH MY GOD THEY'RE STILL ALIVE!!*
They were pissed off because they were enjoying the party.
"What? They are alive? No more partying then? Damn."
"I had to take a double-shift to come to a party for these so-called dead officers."
"Did you ever see a non-com security officer come back from the dead? Did you hell."
I thought Riker's amazed expression meant just that!
They're like yeah this kinda weird shit happens once or twice a week. Oh hi geordi.
Nah, this is a starfleet vessel. Stuff like this happens every thursday.
Data: "I believe I may know what happened sir."
Geordi: "Oh Data, Please Be Right!"
Data: "When Geordi and Ro died their spirits got trapped in limbo and are unable to move on. We should remember them as they were, that way they can move safely on sir."
Picard: "Right! Captain to bridge! Ensign, warp factor 8. Engage!"
Geordi & Ro: "DAMMIT!"🤦♂️🤦♀️
*🤦🏾♂🤦♀
4:11 that Riker grin is just legend
lol it's amazing
That's going to stay with me for the rest of my life now
That's just Frakes forgetting he was in the scene and just enjoying the show. 🙂
@@Unplanted He did it in " Measure of a Man " in a scene between Riker & Data post - trial. Riker was in deep thought, Data explains why Riker was chosen as prosecutor. Data tells him " I will not forget ", & Riker makes with a genuinely happy grin.
wow... he goes through an entire range of emotions within it somehow. Jonathan Frakes is a good looking man and a wonderful actor.
Ro shot Riker in the forehead but if she really wanted to ruin his good time she should have requested Night Bird.
hehe, clever!!
😂😂😂
Hahahahaha
OH SNAP SON.
A comment only a true Trekkie can make 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Commander Riker. Putting the "fun" in funeral since 1992
I did love this episode. I am so glad the floors are made of a different material. Would have just dropped through the bottom of the ship!
I wondered that too when I watched this episode. Maybe the gravity plating had an effect. Also they would still be affected by the inertial dampers otherwise they would find themselves out in space anytime the ship changed course or speed.
@@TheAtkey Brilliant, thank you.
or how they can breathe the oxygen but cant make sounds or interact with objects...
quiet!
I love that they ran and ducked for cover from the disruptor exploding even though solid objects won't do anything to stop it.
"Captain, who gave that order?"
'How should I know Ensign? You could have received an order from virtually any member of the crew in any location.'
picard give an order to a crewman, but was intercepted while talking and did not ,,hang off'' the crewman hear everything after that
I know Michelle Forbes left TNG because she wanted a variety of acting roles, but she would've been a great addition to the main cast.
@@noahsmith4505 Michelle Forbes was pretty, and originally intended to be the main 'Kira' character in DS9. How I wish she'd taken that role instead of Nana Visitor and her awful hair!
@@Scripture-Man I feel you. What might have been...
TNG was one of those shows you wish you could erase from your memory just so you could experience it for the first time again. Such an amazing series.
Watching the HD remaster on Blu-ray is almost like watching it for the first time.
I think that is why I haven't watched it straight through since 2008. I have watched Voyager twice since then. Enterprise almost 3 times. And most of ds9 twice.
Okay, I won't lie, this coaxed ridiculous laughter out of me for a hard minute.
Because, yeah.... Turns out Riker did a *TON* of weird S___ in the show that I NEVER paid attention to. Like his bizarre chair sitting.
Or the fact that, in TNG, Worf gets shut down and his a$$ kicked in like.... Every episode. Almost without fail, he gets stomped on. Poor Worf.
By god, Riker is just having the *best time* at his friend's funeral!! And I found that friggin' hilarious. How did I *miss* this?
His enthusiasm for his buddy's death of like, 5 years, is astounding. It's infectious.
@@jaymee_ As a trombonist, I can say with confidence that his conduct is entirely typical of trombonists x)
The chair sitting was due to back problems
There are indeed a lot of weird Riker behaviors in various episodes. However, in this case I think Riker was just trying to celebrate his shipmates' life by really getting into the whole wake mindset fully instead of mourning them and depressing everyone, including himself.
Giving that he only seems "giddy" for about 2 minutes out of the entire show, is hard to agree with what you are saying without thinking you're being overly dramatic
Frakes had back problems like another person has pointed out. It was still comical as hell to see her shooting him in the head
2:02 since nothing else is out of phase, it didn't help anything to jump behind the table to shield them from the disruptor overload. ;-)
I don't think they gave a second thought to it when writing/filming but it can be explained away just as a human reaction, particularly as the situation was still new to them.
So the floors are out of phase? I don't recall how they or if they even explained that. It's been a while since I've seen the full episode.
@@JustJohnny The floors do not follow out-of-phase-laws. Nor do inertial dampeners. Also when you look closely, while throwing himself down, Geordie's foot foot bumps into the bench.
Please watch Stargate SG-1's 100th episode for further information. ;-)
@@DJDoena LOL SG1!. I remember they brought it up and brushed it off, like "yeah we know, but ignore it"
I took it as a matter of physics/continuity. If they were both in phase, a disrupter overload would have seriously injured and possibly killed both of them. As it was, they and the disrupter were out of phase. Thus, a disrupter overload might still have injured/killed them.
For all their training, it never occurs to Geordi or Ro to actually spell out a message by screwing with the matter/fabric or whatever technobabble it was. Geordi literally touches a panel in front of Data, and Data noticed that particular panel has been affected by said technobabble. Geordi repeats, Data repeats. All Geordi had to do was to write out "Help me Data" by running his finger across a panel like writing on a chalkboard.
It's been awhile since I've seen the episode but I always assumed the crynoton particles (or however you spell that) they generated were like dust in the air. Something you couldn't clearly make out a pattern from other than a dust cloud or like a swarm of gnats of sorts.
@@TheDangerousNate Maybe, but even a dust could can have a pattern.
We found a plot hole NURSE !
a extremely good point
Data: Curious. Captain, I am detecting some Silent Hill shit.
The episode seems to suggest that the readings cannot be localized so narrowly. Data can only tell when there are emissions in a general vicinity, not their precise origin. LaForge is highly intelligent, so the fact that he doesn't "write a message" tells us it wasn't an option.
Picard: Did you see that Data?
Data: That depends on your definition of "seeing". Since Georgi's death, I've been brushing up on philosophy...
''Come on Data put it all together''
and Data's reply was spoken like a true Hollywood writer
They missed an opportunity for a decent joke: "Looks like a great party, were dying to join you!"
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Ha, good one! Data response: "A most humorous remark, Geordi. May I add that we were attempting with this ceremony to put the FUN in FUNeral."
*awkward silence*
La Forge: "You can be a real a-hole, Data"
Actually that line is in the episode the video cut just before he says it
That would be awful
If they were going to use lame, cliched puns, it would be better to go with:
"What's the matter? You folks look like you've seen a ghost!"
I do like how Data helped them both off the ground at the same time. Attention to detail right there :P
For who wants to know this is Season 5, episode 24, "The Next Phase"
thank you
Thank you
THANK YOU!
Thanks, I've been trying to find that out.
Thank you, gonna watch this again tonight
Does anyone else love how smooth riker came in with that trombone
I love the officer that just goes "aye sir", like he wasn't just informed of a resurrection.
Eh, I'm sure weird stuff like that happens not that rarely. Given how much subspace fuckery happens on the Enterprise alone.
Dang~ Nice Data :D That was cool seeing Geordi say "Now put it all together!" trusting in his friend to figure out their problem :) Good teamwork.
Riker: "I'm having the time of my life! I'm glad their dead!"
*Ro and Geordi re-appear*
Riker: "Awkward...."
Riker: "See, I _told_ you they were fine!"
When Worff looks down and sees Geordi and Ro groping each other on the floor he's like, "What the heck?"
Could have been worse.
imagine if they went desperate and ended up consoling each other with effusions and then they accidentally uncloak them while they are buttnaked and going at it.
Worf: Someone spiked my prune juice.
Worf: Oh so I did hear someone screaming at my face earlier.
@@Shendue this is about as close as Geordi got to getting with a girl that wasn’t a hologram...
Yeah, he didn’t think Geordi had it in him!
Geordi and Ro, reports of their demise have been greatly exaggerated.
OK Mark
Kira was a fine replacement but I still missed Ro.
Kira > Ro
Kira was better than Ro *but* it was a huge missed opportunity to not have Ro complete her arc on DS9 during the Marqui stuff. Ro meeting Kira would have been great.
@@BlazingOwnager Not to worry I'm sure there are some /fics out there.
Kira was FINE PERIOD!!!!
Completely different characters. I much prefer the way liras character played out. I really really like Ro Laren and it would have been nice to have her involved in ds9 somehow, but it wouldnt have been possible to straight swap the two. They are too different.
"No one seems to shocked to see them not dead."
Yeah this is a typical tuesday for them...
im still shocked, they could not interact with anything and can't breath for hours
@Rockwell Rhodes kinda true. they could neither drink, eat, breath, stay on a ground and perhabs not even see,.
“You can’t attend your own funeral”
Geordi La Forge: hold my coco no-no
LMAO 🤣 I remember that holodeck date he had with that one girl. They were on the beach with a hologram playing the fiddle!
Uhhh... Literally everyone attends their own funeral.
Yknow... I don't think Frakes is actually playing that bone.
He actually knows how to play the trombone. It's not bad.
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All music on TV is pre-recorded and the actors mime to it; ensures they don't lose time to mess ups while playing.
There's a great blooper from Frasier where Kelsey Grammar misses his cue and the piano appears to play itself.
@@DomWeasel I don't think that's true. Hugh Laurie has been featured with quite some depth and focus with his piano playing as House. It may be mostly true, but I'd fully buy it if someone who's truly skilled at an instrument plays and is recorded on set
@@roguishpaladin
Hugh Laurie played the piano and guitar on House and even wrote a few pieces for House (Cuddy's Song) but they still pre-record the audio and have the actor mime when they film the scene. This way they have clean audio to work with when it comes to sound editing.
I'm not talking about those moments where he plays a few notes while talking to someone; I mean the scenes where he plays to a montage. That's Hugh Laurie's music but recorded in a proper studio and not on a TV set.
In this Star Trek example, the actors are miming with their instruments so that the actors who are speaking aren't drowned out or start speaking loudly to be heard. They layer the instrument music over the speech later in post-production.
In the film Das Boot, the actors all recorded their dialogue after filming and it was dubbed in because it was too noisy on set for them to be heard.
Jonathan Frakes played trombone in the Penn State marching band, but he's not as good as he sounds on screen. When Commander Riker played the trombone on screen you were hearing Bill Watrous.
How does the matter-cloaking also cloak the energy of their communicators? The radio waves or other radiation would have to stay cloaked far from their bodies to not interact with the rest of the ship. And then Geordie’s comm badge signal magically works when he de-cloaks?
This particular effect was effectively being out of sync with the rest of the universe. "Using his ability to look through the casing, La Forge discovers that a central device in the Romulan engine room is a molecular phase inverter, which can transform normal matter so it will pass through other matter and energy." Effectively, even if they did generate a signal, it wouldn't be received.
It's all a hand waving conceit for the episode. It all kinda collapses when you really think about it. How do they walk through walls but not fall through the floors? How do they ride turbolifts if they go through walls? How are they breathing the ship's air? We ignore the gaping plot holes because it's an entertaining episode.
I think the term is Poetic licence.
@@dmk941 Well, assuming the ship's artificial gravity still pulls them, it's not THAT much of a stretch to say "oh because the artificial gravity doesn't work inside flooring panels, they don't get pulled through"
BUT yeah the breathing thing is definitely purely nonsensical
Because matter and energy are the same thing.
Haven't seen this is years, and I still got goose bumps while Data was figuring it out. Great series!
I have more feeling and joy watching this 4 min clip vs. watching 7 eps of Picard. TNG always!
Not only did they have great stories and amazing acting they also had insane episodes like that.
I love it. Something this silly and great almost never happens in todays shows.
Watching this in 2020 and it still brings a smile to my face.
God, this was so damn good. No mystery why I watched it so religiously when it was still new back in the 90s.
1:16 Worf: "No one interrupts my daily prune juice drink. Not even you two."
Except a trip to the john
I like how they dive behind the table that can't protect them.
Instinct.
Missed opportunity where they could've had, in a later episode, Riker slowly dying from brain degeneration. Beverly does a scan and mentions "I can't understand these strange readings. Apparently a faint residual hole has burrowed through your head as if a phaser beam went right through it". All the staff is puzzled to how this came about and when Ro learns of it, keeps to herself as she knew nobody would ever figure this little secret out.
This day is known as "Tuesday" on board the Enterprise.
Once again Data to the rescue.
Good point - he saved their asses many times - he saved their asses when everyone was under the mind control of the Ricean video-game brainwashing-thingie during Wesley's vacation from Starfleet Academy.
That he did!
Because Data.
To be fair he only helped here with a bit of theory... captain Picard would have figured it out - first he’d call on Riker “captain I think you need some rest ... maybe it as my trombone playing”.... but then he’d have called some unheralded scientific staff. Even O’Brien would have figured it out eventually.
Data is the hard carry in most episodes.
All time great episode
How I miss STTNG. Superb acting and excellent scripts. It was great to watch the crew grow together and become almost family-like as the series progressed.
they can go through walls but not floors?
Apparently there was a cut line explaining that they had to put effort into walking through the walls... But even that doesn't hold up to scrutiny, cuz they're seen running through them like they're nothing in other parts. I hate to say it, but I think this is one of those moments where you have to suspend your disbelief. Unfortunate, cuz it's otherwise a great episode.
Maybe it has nothing to do with the material of the deck plating, but the artificial gravity which would be in the floors only ?
@@paulwalsh2344 The floors are made of Plot-tainuium
You're right! Now I hate TNG
@@LocksAndChains how do they breathe the atmosphere
I know what i'll do once phase cloaks become normal, i'll construct everything out of the same material as the floors to counteract the phased cloak effect!
When I watched this episode for the first time, even at 10-ish years old my first thought was how are they not floating around in the out of phase space, and how are they breathing lol. Got even more complicated when they pushed the Romulan through the hull into space - so he can pass through a wall but not the floor?
@@RyGuy5320 In the script there was a line about how they had to put some effort in to pass through things, and even Geordie deliberately sinking through the floor of the transporter room to get to the crawlway below. Somewhere both these were lost, I think the latter was due to cost.
In VOY 'Distant Origin' when examining the personal phasing cloak of the Vorth Tuvok and Paris actually cover all these points and explain them. So you can reverse engineer that to this.
@@RyGuy5320 The breathing part makes no sense, but I always figured the grav plating had something to do with not falling through the floor.
One thing I always thought with this one that should have happened:
Geordi used to have problems when it came to women. If he and Ro had gotten along well after this episode, the two would have made a great couple.
Then she leaves him to join the Maquis. Cue more heartbreak for Geordi.
You missed the part where they try out-of-phase intercourse in the middle of the bridge.
They had such great chemistry! Way more than she and Riker ever did.
Geordie and Ro? Hardly a match made in heaven. But I'm sure he would have enjoyed taking her to bed on the holodeck, accompanied by Dr Brahms :D LOL
Ro would beat that poor boy into submission in bed. She would need an alpha. That's why when they all lost their memories she immediately hooked up with Riker.
One of my favorite scenes.
great episode
God I love TNG.
Except season one, beardless Riker is horrific
What if the disruptor suddenly re-materialized right as it was about to explode in the middle of that crowded room?
Wouldve stopped Rikers cacophony anyway
Well lucky they were already at a funeral, then
Small moments in episodes like this is why Ro Laren is one of my favourite Star Trek characters, even though she's only appeared in a handful of episodes in just one series
And someone on board is saying “so much for that promotion”.
Legend has it they legitimately partied on set for a couple of hours after this scene
Why not
The TNG cast is a rarity in that the entire cast was, is, and always will be one big clique. They talk frequently about how uncomfortable they made others during the original run when filming lol. So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they did
Everyone going on about floors and air and I'm here wondering how that dude in Engineering knew that Captain Picard would be in the same room as dead Geordi.
does not matter he was just checking but you know he like a dead guy gaveling me order but the captain said to follow the order so I will
SnugglehPuppeh he was probably in shock, and just automatically called on the first superior officer that came to his mind
@@TheyMadeMePickAName esp since it involved ambiguity over a department head
"Everyone going on about floors and air and I'm here wondering how that dude in Engineering knew that Captain Picard would be in the same room as dead Geordi."
...because he's mad that he doesn't even get to attend his boss and friend's funeral, because someone has to work engineering, but also conflicted because he's the new chief engineer, so he's EVEN MORE aware than most people that the funeral is now, that Picard is there, and that he's missing it. And the next person up in his chain of command as chief engineer IS the captain, so when he receives an order he suspects might be invalid, what with it being from a dead guy and so might be someone trying to fuck with the Enterprise using exactly the kind of exploit that might work with credentials that just became available, he does what he's SUPPOSED to do and report the suspicious order to the Captain, who is in the same room he knows the order was transmitted from, because he has some competence as a chief engineer and can trace a damned phone call.
Ro can put me on overload anyday. Ensign ro make it so!
That may not be such a good idea
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@@erictaylor5462 LMFAO
She was a pretty mean lady in Battlestar Galactica.
@@jumpyg1258 And lesbian. No fun for the OP!
@@czos9239 she still made the uniform look great lol
even at age 54 or so Michelle Forbes is pretty good looking IMO and I tend to like the characters she plays, good bad doesn't matter, some she really has some fun with like the Goddess Circi in DCUO, deliciously evil lolz
I love this episode so much.
Geordi: Riker, we're alive!
Riker: but what did you think of my trombone solo?
Ro has a gorgeous smile
This is how all funerals should be.
Such a good episode
That was a great episode. From the greatest sci-fi show of all time.
"We're dead, Geordi." "We have to make peace with our former lives."
"I always thought I knew exactly what would happen to me when I died. When this happened, I started to question everything I believed. It made me think I must have been really arrogant to think that I knew everything. Now I don't know what to believe." "Well, if we can teach Ro Laren some humility, then maybe anything is possible."
"I've set this disruptor on overload, which will explode with the power of a grenade. Now let's stay in the same room with it and duck behind the furniture which will offer us absolutely no protection whatsoever."
That trombone playing is some platinum R&B shit
"TNG" went hard
1:05 its beautiful when couples come together such as we see in this scene.
After this episode I was so hoping that these two characters would get together. They had a great chemistry in this episode.
3:40 was the most action Geordi ever got
After her sacrifice in Picard I love this episode even more
I remember watching this episode and thinking how bizarre it was how quickly everyone moved on from their supposed deaths its like because they werent really killing a character off, the cast decided they didnt need to put in all that effort required to act depressed or express grief.
time to party at my funeral, woo!
How have I only just realised that Chief Brosmer is the computer voice for DS9?
Honestly i would kill to have Riker playing a troumbon at my funeral
LOL - You should have said you would _die_ to have Riker playing at your funeral.
@@Scripture-Man Both
I was a kid when this show was on the air. Happiest time of my life.
The entire episode they walk through walls, but are still held up by the floor.
1:52 Irresponsible of the producers to show the details of putting the disrupter in over-load. Impressionable youmg eyes are watching and dad's disrupter in the closet may not have a lock on it.
That's why responsible parents should teach their kids about disrupters and their safe operation
They really coated Brent with some shiny paint in the later seasons.
It was always shiny paint. In fact, its gold paint - it just doesn't translate through a lens very well.
I tear up more during this moment, when Data puts it all together, than any other in all of Star Trek.
Me too, it's such a joyful, triumphant, fist-in the air moment! :-) How the crew could be so cold-faced at their return to life is beyond me! I think even data should have been emotional at this point!
"The Next Phase" is in my top 10 best TNG episodes.
Johnathan Frakes plays the trombone. But it looked like they made no effort to synch his playing with the music.
Farewell Commander Ro Laren. You defended Federation values to the end. Rests in Power.
“I believe I know what has happened Captain!”
“Yes, Data!”
“This part of space is rife with…G-g-g-g-ghosts!”
“NO DATA!”
“Let’s get out of here! Go to Warp right now!”
“Captain!? WHY?!
those shady Romulans almost managed to blow up the Enterprise and it would have worked, if it wasn't for those meddling Starfleet officers
Season 5, Episode 24, "The next phase"; If anybody wanted to know...
One of my favourite episodes ever since I was a kid.
I always loved this episode.
What a great scene 😀