That’s what I’ve been saying. I think Isayama is trying to separate himself from the characters and how much he butchered them. Who cares what “Mikasa wanted” it’s whatever you wanted Isayama, And Armin can’t find a solution unless you do and write it in. Only bad writers blame the downfall of the writing on their not real characters
Yams is talking like he was a spectator in his own story who was just writing down everything that was occurring around them. This dude hoped that Armin would find another way????? WUTTT?? THEN SHOW HIM FINDING ANOTHER WAY!
there's no fucking way he's serious, he HAS to be trolling, this is not even getting high, this is pure shitposting, AoT's ending was a shitpost, I am convinced
Well I can't say I didn't learn something from this. 1) I will never overhype a series untill it is finish ever again. Untill the last episode I'm always going to have that doubt in the back of mind that this can all go wrong. 2) Don't ignore the signs. Let's be honest there were a lot of red flags that the ending was going to be bad(the drop in quality during rumbling arc, characters that we once loved becoming unlikeable post timeskip, isayama weird statements in interviews like not having a full understanding of eren untill he heard his voice actor) however we ignored it because we had faith that isayama will pull through. Never again. If I noticed the red flags in any series then I'm not even going to give the writers a chance like isayama and drop it. If I hear it has a good ending I will pick it back up, but untill then I'm not looking back.
I can't agree with you more dude !! As you said since the time skip the plot was full of red flags 🚩🚩🚩.... Maybe I'm one of those fans who started holding their breath the moment when Levi gave the injection to Armin !!! The dude who was roasted like chicken then had 60 ft fall yet somehow he survived all that sh*t and took the injection instead of Erwin the commander and the Real leader/King of paradise ????!!!! I was like WTF DUDE??! my second red flag was Reiner being saved again however he should be killed right there and then ....my third red flag was Levi and Hange being Soo passive and okay with letting Erwin die when there was no one who can replace him as a Leader jezzz ... That was an a$$pull for sure !!! I can f**cking write an essay about the disastrous plot we had read since the time-skip !!! I feel like it's either Isayama's real story ended in the basement ( maybe his intentions were creating short manga with an open ending ) since the Manga/anime gained international fame and became extremely profitable he decided to stretch his story and fill it with Fan-service and turn it to generic shonen story because it's the easy way out Or he just stole the plot/ideas from someone else's then he found difficulties to keep up with that person's story so he improvised which made the plot all over the place and ended with no real ending nor the questions were answered because that story wasn't his in the first place
I dropped the manga for whatever reason back in the days ( actually i was just busy) during the Marely Arc. I dropped it few times after that too, i don't know why I came back and read it. Maybe because I was curious who the story will end. Now, I regret it.
What's peculiar about this is that I have seen or read stories with more or less badly written endings--but AoT is the only story that's ending pissed me off the most--even more than the time GoT ended. It's just so bad. Even other animes or manga that don't have great endings feel more "rewatchable and nostalgic" than this shit we got.
No, the more I read, the more I believe someone else wrote AoT up till chapter 122, let Isayama, under guidance, to write up to 137, then at 137, Isayama wrote the ending 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
this is exactly what happens when you achieve success by accident, not by putting in the hardwork, all these leaks suggest that it was just a mere gacha roll lmao
@@yashmishra1212 he cant accidentally make 4 and a half seasons worth of greatness whatever Ishyama had that made him a great writer he apparently lost it during the rumbling arc cause holy shit .
@@yashmishra1212 I despise Isayama's behavior but there is no way he wrote a great story by pure luck. It seems that all the people surrounding him despised his planned ending since a lot of them were Mikasa simps for some strange reason and wanted to turn this into a love story.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 from what isayama has said yes it actually is he never thought attack on titan would be as successful as it became and he changed the ending because of the way people loved his character the man literally said this himself
Armin never thanked Eren for being a mass murderer, at least not in canon. In the official translation, he said "You became a mass murderer for our sake. I promise I won't let this error go to waste." If you're going to complain about the dialogue, at least read the official translation first.
@@WreckingCritter Armin didn't need to explicitly say "thank you for becoming a mass murderer" for the readers to understand that he was basically thanking Eren for becoming a mass murderer. Though he did say "error" so maybe he thought what Eren did was a mistake that he won't "let it go to waste"? Which I'm not so sure if it's more or less worse?
I think if we go with the translation where he says "Thank you" then it means that in that moment, Armin understood Eren's predicament. Eren's destiny was pretty much set in stone. He said at least twice to Armin that he wasn't entirely sure why he did the things he did, but he had to do them. He was never really free, a slave to his own destiny. Armin seemed to understand the burden. Still though, Isayama going with Eren's genocide instead of Armin finding a solution lowkey betrays the idea that Isayama, who actually writes himself through Armin, couldn't come up with something he saw as satisfactory. Which may be why he tries to save Armin's arc by having him save the everyone else through his conversation with Zeke in Paths and pretty much ending the story with Armin leading the ex-Corps/Warriors delegation on peace talks.
@xid For all we know, maybe she actually did in private. Probably that's why Isayama's doing a few interviews to control the damage he's done. After all, when was the last time a manga ending divided its own fandom and caused nearly every reader to rethink everything about the entire story? (scratch that, it's just bizarre how he could have come up with this kind of ending)
@@bored_potato I think it was his editor (Kawakubo) that does a lot of interviews post-ending. Each of the interview shown slight difference in two individual's vision of AoT. At least Isayama apologises for letting his fans down. While I seen nothing from Kawakubo's side.
Ever since the beginning of the fumbling arc, I've been joking that Isayama had hired ghost writers post-Female Titan arc because after that arc, the writing felt quite different but in a good way. The story was already decent, but it became much better as though a professional had continued writing the story from then on. I was thinking that wow, Isayama had improved so much in such a short time. But then fumbling arc came and I joked that his ghostwriters had quit and so he had to write everything himself. I'm beginning to think there's some crumbs of truth in my joke
I've read a good amount of mangakas' interviews and I think I have an idea of what's going on here, Japanese authors in general tend to speak like they're experiencing the story with the readers (e.g.: *I would like to see this character do this* ; even though they're the ones writing said character). Isayama hoping for Armin to find a solution is probably a language barrier... Either that or my man is really done for.
It's actually a good technique as an author to view your characters as real people with real motives and real desires. It helps you respect them more and makes their personalities more realistic. That being said, Isayama is responsible for the story and everything in it. The themes, actions, messages, etc. Therefore he is responsible for destroying it, not Armin, and even admits that's what he's best at. Destroying things. Not to mention it is very telling that Armin/Isayama couldn't come up with something that would work other than the Rumbling, proving that Eren was acting with justified force.
It doesn't really matter either way since Armin(and Yams by extension) didn't actually come up with a solution and Paradis Island got destroyed in the end. Just like Eren said it would, he was right. "We will find a way as long as we're hopeful". Your whole island got fucking nuked my guy. Take your hope and shove it up your ass now.
@TechnicalClashersAkashyeah, at the end of the day, it's still fiction characters we're talking about, nor actual real life people It's sounds so ironic that the author wished for peaceful solutions when HE was the one that wrote the story and HE was the one that pushed it to a corner without putting any peaceful, non-rumbling solution
so he straight up admits that he destroyed the ending... intentionally... can the AoT apologists finally just admit that we were right all along? or at the very least stop acting like we didn't understand this story... like this has gotten way more absurd than i thought possible, the mems are legit better than the source material now
Probably isayama: im god and ymir it's my self insert in the history and if you want to know what happened you need to adress me as ymir in real life to really know what ymir was thinkin in the final chapter hahahahah xD
He was hoping armin to come up with solutions?! Is the most idiotic a writer can say about character that he wrote! As if Armin is a real breathing dude that have his own mind bwahaha! I can't believe that either! 😐 So now he is blaming armin because paradis was destroyed. He wanted to put the blame about his bad writing to characters he wrote. What?! Yams already go above loser at this point. 😇
So true he also said mikasa would've want a kiss like WTF is she alive is she cry for a kiss and beg for you like WTF your the writer you supposed to know your character think I'm just mind blown what is he I am not even gonna defend him anymore lol what a man is he 😂 😂 what am I listening
I don't know if it was a translation problem or Isayama is just really... this. It's like if JK Rowling said "I wish Harry Potter had found a way to save his parents."
I mean, characters you create can in a way come alive at some point, but it's not like you don't know what they are doing and thinking. You can't blame them for your poor writing choices and lack of imagination.
@Thanos is Retired Lmao, imagine if she had wrote something like _"I don't care about defeating Voldemort! I don't want Ginny to move on if I die!" Harry cried._
"Eren is back." In fact, I think this is the result of many years of this fandom making memes calling Eren a crybaby during the first seasons. As if it wasn't human to cry when he cried. And as Isayama said he kept seeing fan comments even to write the freaking ending, I believe he was influenced by these idiocies and really believed that this was Eren. At the end of the day, two things are the truth: the fandom deserved this shit. And Isayama is a terrible writer who doesn't know his own characters and is influenced by others.
How exactly was Eren a crybaby in the first place to begin with??? His mother died, his father died, his friends died, his home was destroyed and everything was taken from him and YOU DONT WANT HIM TO CRY??? If you want a real crybaby MC look at Deku from MHA, nigga literally cries at every single trivial moment and he lost nothing 🙄🙄🙄
@@roman108 yeah one of the reasons I stop watching after stain ark mha . There are other issues but this was annoying. If can’t stand the Mc how can stance other stuff that are worst. I can’t believe I made it to two seasons
I fully agree, the only thing that surprised me was how many people hated the ending. It is somewhat refreshing to see people react appropriately to something morally apprehensible.
Since true freedom is apparently found in the friendships they made along the way, AoT is not really that distinct after all from common shonen manga with this ending being the culmination of everything. Guess you could say that Attack on Titan was just shonen manga with extra steps.
Real talk though I think Isayama started dealing with writers block at some point it happens to the best of creatives but instead just taking a break telling his publishers "Hey I'm having a hard time coming up with things to continue this story. I need time to reflect." He decided to continue anyway probably trying not to "disadvantage others" You know the mindset that goes with Japanese work culture. Probably thinking if he took a break fans would be upset and it'd slow down the progress of the animation studio. Not thinking that taking a break and getting over the writers block is what would be best for the fans and the story in the long run. Of course money plays a role too with the sequel mess. But even still if he had just took his time & looked at what he wrote and thought of how to move the plot in a way that could make sense with what was already written he could've even done a sequel in a way that made sense or felt better then what we got.
Here's something kind of disgusting about the final arc. Yams is saying through the story that "RUMBLING BAD!", but he presented no real solution to save Paradis besides a full-blown Rumbling. What the FUCK was Eren supposed to do?! I'm not saying the Rumbling is right, but this sends some fucking horrible implications. It's saying that a nation at risk of genocide should sit there and take it in the ass (which they did in the final panels), and the hateful majority is more important than the minority. Freedom my ass!
Eren was right but Yams didn't have the balls to go through with it. It really was a "us or them" situation and Paradis chose "them". Fucking dogshit tier story that's what this is.
All jokes aside, I do have the feeling that Isayama didn't actually write the Fumbling arc, just approved it. He clearly couldn't be bothered with his own story anymore.
have you seen this interview? twitter.com/rezenthu/status/1401995203901263878?s=19 it is showing that kawakubo, his editor also have a hand in the shits arc/ending.
No see you don’t understand. Armin and Mikasa are all actual people in his basement who are playing dnd. Isayama is the spectator and he’s basing his story off their game
I still refuse to believe that the same person who wrote 1-123 wrote 124-139. There’s a huge difference in writing quality. There’s definitely something we don’t know about. If you notice from the interviews, the editor keeps talking about Eren and Mikasa but Isayama keeps saying that he was the happiest when he was drawing the Marley arc, his favourite chapters being bystander and Kenny and Uri’s chapters etc. interesting ….
Eren: I will keep moving forward until my enemies are destroyed *raises an army straight from an undying place in between hell and heaven while awakening an army of soulless colossal titans while stomping on 80% of the earth's population with the help of a 2000 year old enslaved "goddess"* Armin: DATEBAYO EREH!! Eren: oh ok btw i like mikasa and i killed my mom.
Many authors need to realize that their characters are not sentient beings. They're made-up and they can only think as far as you can. It's not Eren's responsibility to think of a solution. It's your responsibility, Iseyama. You're the author. You're the one with an existing functioning brain. Not your imaginary character. Your character is a figment of your imagination. Your character is a thought -- an idea. Don't expect your ideas to literally think for themselves. They can't.
Maybe isayama had a group of ghost writers but they all quit during the rumbling arc and he had to write the ending himself?11'?!!. i ran out of copium, guys.
And I thought Evangelion was the most financially successful anime/manga trolljob. Isayama just needs to do a remake of AOT and put a troll ending a second time. Then he'd surpass Ano.
Everytime something about isayama or aot comes out is destroying more and more the story. Stop yams stop it right now. It's already over. We don't deserve more pain
He literally said he finds it funny to betray people, like calling someone to the edge of a cliff and then push them down, and that he just wanted to betray everybody and Kodansha too. He's not going to stop anytime soon. I've been saying for some time that he's not well. That, or he wants to play the madman.
If it weren't for yams going full derp mode we wouldn't have this version of saintitchief, there's always a blessing in disguise amidst of this whatever, got no words for this mess of an ending
I’m still getting over the slight shock of the ending, I wasn’t expecting a happy ending, just a realistic ending that didn’t betray the characters. I’m gutted tbh
I feel like those videos back then when someone go MIA unannounced or don’t upload and people come up with crazy theories maybe they got kidnapped or being forced to make vids at gun point. This is similar concerned if the mangaka is abusing drugs or losing it or under blackmail by kodansha editors lol
Does Isayama have Dissociative Identity Disorder????? Because I´m seriously concerned by this. If he feels like he didn´t write the story, he should check that out. I´m talking from experience, having a dissociation episode is not funny, everything feels unreal and you sort of move in automatic. If he has different personalities or seems himself like in third person, he should really seek help I´m talking seriously. It feels like there´s two Isayamas. Pre chapter 137 and post chapter 137. If he sees his characters as having "real personalities" , he must seek help. It might be a misstranslation, I hope... oO, this feels weird af, I´m not even mad anymore.
I mean it makes sense if a writer finds out through writing a character that the character won't be able to solve a problem. But it was set up for a while that Armin would have found a solution, and Armin does absolutely nothing for the plot after eating bertholdt, so it's very obvious that Isayama just wrote himself into a corner and was like fuck it lol
I think Isayama is talking about himself. He's just saying that he wasn't able to come up with a logical solution (that Armin would put forth/implement in the story). I think the English phrasing just sounds weird.
Isayama be like "I wish Armin found out a solution to the war" mf YOU HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STORY. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO HAPPEN YOU SHOULD'VE FUCKING WRITTEN IT
Something important to note is that Armin is Isayama's surrogate in the story. When he says Armin couldn't find a way, he means "I couldn't find a way".
I don't get why this man keeps talking about his story like somebody else wrote it, geez wiz if you wanted something to happen it could've happened why act like you have no control over the characters you created or the world you put them in its so strange. Maybe this dude has a problem with disassociating or something.
On the other Hand Katsura Hoshino author of D Gray Man (if u dont know it and know it's still ongoing you are sleeping on a giant. PUN intended) Took the torch from FMA brilliantly and developed DGM and she may take time to release the manga + health issues. But she cares about her story and her characters.
😊Guys, lets do something fun! What is your head cannon with what happened to Isayama, be it serious, humorous, or satirical, because this Isayama is so different from past Isayama? Just put a 🤔(serious), 🤣(comedy), or 😎(satire) before your comments. I made this post because this situation feels like if Quentin Tarantino made a movie but near the end they replace him with Micheal Bay and thinking or hoping that no one will notice. I am quite interested in what theories or humor you guys will come up with.🤞
Isayama: i will make the best protagonist, antagonist, hero , villian everything in the manga history then he made eren and showed his character development for beautiful 137 chp Later Isayama : o sorry it was all fake it was just nothing you know..... ...hmm.... And then everyone forces me to:: dont criticize him ( in limits, respectly) he is the best , u don't understand the story God ( now lucifer) plz save me...
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Hey there my fellow Yeagerist , please make a video on all the parallels between the characters and EREN YEAGER .
Like Eren and Falco , Eren and Reiner , Eren and Eren , Eren and Historia .
Zeke and Frieda
Eren ad Erwin
I think Isayama dmed Armin for advice on how to end the story but Armin never responded
😂 😂 😂 😂
Even Yams got monged by the legendary Umi Da 🤣
Isayama is gonna become a meme at this point.
Omg I- 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I still dont want to respond
"Mikasa probably wanted a kiss" "I was hoping Armin would find a solution" My god they're real people. Living in our world.
That’s what I’ve been saying. I think Isayama is trying to separate himself from the characters and how much he butchered them. Who cares what “Mikasa wanted” it’s whatever you wanted Isayama, And Armin can’t find a solution unless you do and write it in. Only bad writers blame the downfall of the writing on their not real characters
@@pinkaengelz 😂😂😂hahaha
If he's doing that that tells you that he is panicking.
It's isayama he sees the characters and the aot world as a reality
He said that somewhere I can't find now
@@th3_ph4ntomreborn31 he really is like Chris chan LOL dimensional merge when?
Yams is talking like he was a spectator in his own story who was just writing down everything that was occurring around them. This dude hoped that Armin would find another way????? WUTTT?? THEN SHOW HIM FINDING ANOTHER WAY!
He's high af
@@YGROXTV hes off the perc
there's no fucking way he's serious, he HAS to be trolling, this is not even getting high, this is pure shitposting, AoT's ending was a shitpost, I am convinced
All those jokes about eren manipulating Ishyama to write aot might not be that far off apparently.
I$aliar manipulates and babbling because he has nothing concrete to defend himself. He can only keep the fanboys up with his chatter.
Isayama the type of dude to blame his characters for the shortcomings.
I'm starting to think he's is panicking because "attack on titan requiem" is getting more and more popular than his ending.
@@myaparker5510 I think when it's all said and done, years from now, fandom will only look at AOTNR as the real ending.
@@YGROXTV I'm afraid they already have. Because I have.
@@myaparker5510 Same
@@myaparker5510 But I meant the fandom as a whole
Well I can't say I didn't learn something from this.
1) I will never overhype a series untill it is finish ever again. Untill the last episode I'm always going to have that doubt in the back of mind that this can all go wrong.
2) Don't ignore the signs. Let's be honest there were a lot of red flags that the ending was going to be bad(the drop in quality during rumbling arc, characters that we once loved becoming unlikeable post timeskip, isayama weird statements in interviews like not having a full understanding of eren untill he heard his voice actor) however we ignored it because we had faith that isayama will pull through. Never again. If I noticed the red flags in any series then I'm not even going to give the writers a chance like isayama and drop it. If I hear it has a good ending I will pick it back up, but untill then I'm not looking back.
I can't agree with you more dude !!
As you said since the time skip the plot was full of red flags 🚩🚩🚩.... Maybe I'm one of those fans who started holding their breath the moment when Levi gave the injection to Armin !!! The dude who was roasted like chicken then had 60 ft fall yet somehow he survived all that sh*t and took the injection instead of Erwin the commander and the Real leader/King of paradise ????!!!! I was like WTF DUDE??! my second red flag was Reiner being saved again however he should be killed right there and then ....my third red flag was Levi and Hange being Soo passive and okay with letting Erwin die when there was no one who can replace him as a Leader jezzz ... That was an a$$pull for sure !!!
I can f**cking write an essay about the disastrous plot we had read since the time-skip !!!
I feel like it's either Isayama's real story ended in the basement ( maybe his intentions were creating short manga with an open ending ) since the Manga/anime gained international fame and became extremely profitable he decided to stretch his story and fill it with Fan-service and turn it to generic shonen story because it's the easy way out
Or he just stole the plot/ideas from someone else's then he found difficulties to keep up with that person's story so he improvised which made the plot all over the place and ended with no real ending nor the questions were answered because that story wasn't his in the first place
I dropped the manga for whatever reason back in the days ( actually i was just busy) during the Marely Arc.
I dropped it few times after that too, i don't know why I came back and read it. Maybe because I was curious who the story will end. Now, I regret it.
What's peculiar about this is that I have seen or read stories with more or less badly written endings--but AoT is the only story that's ending pissed me off the most--even more than the time GoT ended. It's just so bad. Even other animes or manga that don't have great endings feel more "rewatchable and nostalgic" than this shit we got.
Will you apply rule #1 to Berserk even? I’ve heard it’s really damn good.
I need to stop reading ongoing series.
Very tempted to make a character analysis vid on why you're the best written character ever
i'd watch that, the character growth in the isayama v saintitchief arc is unmatchable
Truly. The character motivations and the way the character develops is peak writing
"ZeroKay is many things, but he's not a liar" th-cam.com/video/9hb165Wemj8/w-d-xo.html
ABSOLUTE LEGEND BRO THANK YOU
oh so this is where it all started?
The more these leaks come through, the more I doubt that Isayama even wrote the final chapters
No, the more I read, the more I believe someone else wrote AoT up till chapter 122, let Isayama, under guidance, to write up to 137, then at 137, Isayama wrote the ending 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
this is exactly what happens when you achieve success by accident, not by putting in the hardwork, all these leaks suggest that it was just a mere gacha roll lmao
@@yashmishra1212 he cant accidentally make 4 and a half seasons worth of greatness whatever Ishyama had that made him a great writer he apparently lost it during the rumbling arc cause holy shit .
@@yashmishra1212 I despise Isayama's behavior but there is no way he wrote a great story by pure luck. It seems that all the people surrounding him despised his planned ending since a lot of them were Mikasa simps for some strange reason and wanted to turn this into a love story.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 from what isayama has said yes it actually is he never thought attack on titan would be as successful as it became and he changed the ending because of the way people loved his character the man literally said this himself
Kishimoto: "Shit, I don't know how to end my story. Hey Naruto, can you think of something?"
Both have a solution: talk no jutsu but it works only in naruto
Oh Armin......so much potential..... tch! Ridiculous how he acted in 139 “Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sakes.” Boy, stop the cap! 🙄🙄
Armin never thanked Eren for being a mass murderer, at least not in canon. In the official translation, he said "You became a mass murderer for our sake. I promise I won't let this error go to waste." If you're going to complain about the dialogue, at least read the official translation first.
@@WreckingCritter Armin didn't need to explicitly say "thank you for becoming a mass murderer" for the readers to understand that he was basically thanking Eren for becoming a mass murderer. Though he did say "error" so maybe he thought what Eren did was a mistake that he won't "let it go to waste"? Which I'm not so sure if it's more or less worse?
@@WreckingCritter he literally says thank you
I think if we go with the translation where he says "Thank you" then it means that in that moment, Armin understood Eren's predicament. Eren's destiny was pretty much set in stone. He said at least twice to Armin that he wasn't entirely sure why he did the things he did, but he had to do them. He was never really free, a slave to his own destiny. Armin seemed to understand the burden. Still though, Isayama going with Eren's genocide instead of Armin finding a solution lowkey betrays the idea that Isayama, who actually writes himself through Armin, couldn't come up with something he saw as satisfactory. Which may be why he tries to save Armin's arc by having him save the everyone else through his conversation with Zeke in Paths and pretty much ending the story with Armin leading the ex-Corps/Warriors delegation on peace talks.
"I wont let this error go to waste"
Isayama was hoping for Armin to pull the
"UMI DA!!!“ card out
Lmfao
Armin tried his best.
Yes with Umi Da Leaf 🍃
Courtesy of your shitty writing.
Ymir should've known better
Whyyyyyyyy lmfao 🤣😂
At least i can be angry gabi for killing Sasha and not isayama
@ Hajime Isayama why did you fail us
The creator of Fullmetal Alchemist is praising the creator of Attack on Titan, when Fullmetal Alchemist is ended better than Attack on Titan 🤣
Easily
A friend's gotta do what a friend's gotta do even though that friend kinda sucked his manga ending
@xid For all we know, maybe she actually did in private. Probably that's why Isayama's doing a few interviews to control the damage he's done. After all, when was the last time a manga ending divided its own fandom and caused nearly every reader to rethink everything about the entire story? (scratch that, it's just bizarre how he could have come up with this kind of ending)
Nah FMA was trash as well, definitely better than AoT (which isn’t really hard to be) but still trash
@@bored_potato I think it was his editor (Kawakubo) that does a lot of interviews post-ending. Each of the interview shown slight difference in two individual's vision of AoT. At least Isayama apologises for letting his fans down. While I seen nothing from Kawakubo's side.
“Yeah Armin really dropped the ball on that one. I expected better from him honestly.”
-Isayama says like he didn’t write the character
Ever since the beginning of the fumbling arc, I've been joking that Isayama had hired ghost writers post-Female Titan arc because after that arc, the writing felt quite different but in a good way. The story was already decent, but it became much better as though a professional had continued writing the story from then on. I was thinking that wow, Isayama had improved so much in such a short time.
But then fumbling arc came and I joked that his ghostwriters had quit and so he had to write everything himself.
I'm beginning to think there's some crumbs of truth in my joke
FT was good though
Seems to me it’s moreso the opposite where the ending was ghostwritten
Is that like the theory that J.K. Rowling didn't write Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince?
Lmao Isayama wanted his characters to come up with solutions💀🤣
"Geez, i made such a tricky story with not a lot of options, what do you think armin?"
You know, we were joking when we said "eren told yams to write aot" but now yams says "i hoped armin to come up with something"
Don't you remember eren relied on armin in the 1st 3 seasons? It makes sense
Ymir is writing the story
That's gotta be a meme later
@@Yhan_Sugesta it's already a meme, whenever someone asks you a question and you don't know how to reply, just answer with "Only Ymir knows..."
Reads the title:
SO DO WE!!!!!!!
I've read a good amount of mangakas' interviews and I think I have an idea of what's going on here, Japanese authors in general tend to speak like they're experiencing the story with the readers (e.g.: *I would like to see this character do this* ; even though they're the ones writing said character).
Isayama hoping for Armin to find a solution is probably a language barrier... Either that or my man is really done for.
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Yeah you are right people are definitely misunderstanding him just because they are not happy with the ending.
It's actually a good technique as an author to view your characters as real people with real motives and real desires. It helps you respect them more and makes their personalities more realistic. That being said, Isayama is responsible for the story and everything in it. The themes, actions, messages, etc. Therefore he is responsible for destroying it, not Armin, and even admits that's what he's best at. Destroying things. Not to mention it is very telling that Armin/Isayama couldn't come up with something that would work other than the Rumbling, proving that Eren was acting with justified force.
It doesn't really matter either way since Armin(and Yams by extension) didn't actually come up with a solution and Paradis Island got destroyed in the end. Just like Eren said it would, he was right.
"We will find a way as long as we're hopeful". Your whole island got fucking nuked my guy. Take your hope and shove it up your ass now.
@TechnicalClashersAkashyeah, at the end of the day, it's still fiction characters we're talking about, nor actual real life people
It's sounds so ironic that the author wished for peaceful solutions when HE was the one that wrote the story and HE was the one that pushed it to a corner without putting any peaceful, non-rumbling solution
so he straight up admits that he destroyed the ending... intentionally...
can the AoT apologists finally just admit that we were right all along? or at the very least stop acting like we didn't understand this story...
like this has gotten way more absurd than i thought possible, the mems are legit better than the source material now
What did armin told to zeke to stop the rumbling while showing him a leaf: UMI DA!!!!
He cast his raccoon magic on Zeke
Probably isayama: im god and ymir it's my self insert in the history and if you want to know what happened you need to adress me as ymir in real life to really know what ymir was thinkin in the final chapter hahahahah xD
He was hoping armin to come up with solutions?! Is the most idiotic a writer can say about character that he wrote!
As if Armin is a real breathing dude that have his own mind bwahaha! I can't believe that either! 😐
So now he is blaming armin because paradis was destroyed. He wanted to put the blame about his bad writing to characters he wrote. What?! Yams already go above loser at this point. 😇
So true he also said mikasa would've want a kiss like WTF is she alive is she cry for a kiss and beg for you like WTF your the writer you supposed to know your character think I'm just mind blown what is he I am not even gonna defend him anymore lol what a man is he 😂 😂 what am I listening
I don't know if it was a translation problem or Isayama is just really... this. It's like if JK Rowling said "I wish Harry Potter had found a way to save his parents."
@@bored_potato don't give her any idea for her tweet
I mean, characters you create can in a way come alive at some point, but it's not like you don't know what they are doing and thinking. You can't blame them for your poor writing choices and lack of imagination.
@Thanos is Retired Lmao, imagine if she had wrote something like _"I don't care about defeating Voldemort! I don't want Ginny to move on if I die!" Harry cried._
And when the world needed him most, he vanished.
If yams keeps it up with these interviews, hes gonna start looking like the jk.Rowling of manga.
He already is the j.k of manga
@@kakashihatake313 HEYOOOOOOOO!
"Eren is back."
In fact, I think this is the result of many years of this fandom making memes calling Eren a crybaby during the first seasons. As if it wasn't human to cry when he cried. And as Isayama said he kept seeing fan comments even to write the freaking ending, I believe he was influenced by these idiocies and really believed that this was Eren.
At the end of the day, two things are the truth: the fandom deserved this shit. And Isayama is a terrible writer who doesn't know his own characters and is influenced by others.
How exactly was Eren a crybaby in the first place to begin with??? His mother died, his father died, his friends died, his home was destroyed and everything was taken from him and YOU DONT WANT HIM TO CRY???
If you want a real crybaby MC look at Deku from MHA, nigga literally cries at every single trivial moment and he lost nothing 🙄🙄🙄
@@roman108 yeah one of the reasons I stop watching after stain ark mha . There are other issues but this was annoying. If can’t stand the Mc how can stance other stuff that are worst. I can’t believe I made it to two seasons
@@rigills9411 deku kickin serious ass in the manga rn doe jus sayin
@@roman108 it's just a meme bro
I fully agree, the only thing that surprised me was how many people hated the ending. It is somewhat refreshing to see people react appropriately to something morally apprehensible.
Since true freedom is apparently found in the friendships they made along the way, AoT is not really that distinct after all from common shonen manga with this ending being the culmination of everything.
Guess you could say that Attack on Titan was just shonen manga with extra steps.
AoT is litterly a Shonen wearing a seinen skin
And Eren's arc was slavery with extra steps!
@@alexvaughan1013 hurts but it's so accurate lmao
Oh my God he sounds like an EMO KID IN HIGH SCHOOL
“it really expresses my desire to destroy”
« The world is...dark. »
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Keep giving interviews yams you are perfect entertainer you are a perfect meme
Isayama: *draws destruction of Paradis Island*
Also Isayama: "I wish Armin did better."
Is Isayama really the actual maker of AoT or not?
no, Eren is.
Real talk though I think Isayama started dealing with writers block at some point it happens to the best of creatives but instead just taking a break telling his publishers "Hey I'm having a hard time coming up with things to continue this story. I need time to reflect." He decided to continue anyway probably trying not to "disadvantage others"
You know the mindset that goes with Japanese work culture. Probably thinking if he took a break fans would be upset and it'd slow down the progress of the animation studio. Not thinking that taking a break and getting over the writers block is what would be best for the fans and the story in the long run. Of course money plays a role too with the sequel mess.
But even still if he had just took his time & looked at what he wrote and thought of how to move the plot in a way that could make sense with what was already written he could've even done a sequel in a way that made sense or felt better then what we got.
Fans' impatience is what led to DBZ and Naruto being so bogged down with filler. Just wait for the manga to catch up, innit?
Isayama: I was hoping Armin would find a solution.
David Benioff: Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet.
Notice a pattern here?
Yeah
Sadly, yeah i noticed too
Every single breath that Armin takes post RtS arc is proof that Erwin was the right choice
Here's something kind of disgusting about the final arc. Yams is saying through the story that "RUMBLING BAD!", but he presented no real solution to save Paradis besides a full-blown Rumbling. What the FUCK was Eren supposed to do?!
I'm not saying the Rumbling is right, but this sends some fucking horrible implications. It's saying that a nation at risk of genocide should sit there and take it in the ass (which they did in the final panels), and the hateful majority is more important than the minority. Freedom my ass!
Eren was right but Yams didn't have the balls to go through with it. It really was a "us or them" situation and Paradis chose "them".
Fucking dogshit tier story that's what this is.
All jokes aside, I do have the feeling that Isayama didn't actually write the Fumbling arc, just approved it. He clearly couldn't be bothered with his own story anymore.
have you seen this interview? twitter.com/rezenthu/status/1401995203901263878?s=19
it is showing that kawakubo, his editor also have a hand in the shits arc/ending.
For real ?
One of my favourite characters in any story ever has been butchered.
@Ákos M. I'd say till chapter 123 tbh. But 131 was cool as hell too. Everything else in between? .. nah
No see you don’t understand. Armin and Mikasa are all actual people in his basement who are playing dnd. Isayama is the spectator and he’s basing his story off their game
Now let's start a hunt to find mikasa so we can clap them Ackerman cheeks
this whole thing is damage control
yams is speaking but the words he is spouting is probably coming from high up.
I just died when you read that part with Armin, it can't be true wow. Armin just help Isayama what are you doing??
5:39
This is the same reason he added the dialogue of Eren calling himself an idiot. Yams is trying to gaslight us again.
hacksayama keeps embarassing himself
I still refuse to believe that the same person who wrote 1-123 wrote 124-139. There’s a huge difference in writing quality. There’s definitely something we don’t know about. If you notice from the interviews, the editor keeps talking about Eren and Mikasa but Isayama keeps saying that he was the happiest when he was drawing the Marley arc, his favourite chapters being bystander and Kenny and Uri’s chapters etc. interesting ….
Well to be fair 130 and 131 were fantastic
@@brianechevarria3776 and the first half of 134
7:04 yams talking like his characters are real, on some chris chan shit LOL
Eren: I will keep moving forward until my enemies are destroyed *raises an army straight from an undying place in between hell and heaven while awakening an army of soulless colossal titans while stomping on 80% of the earth's population with the help of a 2000 year old enslaved "goddess"*
Armin: DATEBAYO EREH!!
Eren: oh ok btw i like mikasa and i killed my mom.
🤣🤣
Many authors need to realize that their characters are not sentient beings. They're made-up and they can only think as far as you can. It's not Eren's responsibility to think of a solution. It's your responsibility, Iseyama. You're the author. You're the one with an existing functioning brain. Not your imaginary character. Your character is a figment of your imagination. Your character is a thought -- an idea. Don't expect your ideas to literally think for themselves. They can't.
GRRM unfortunately contributed to this kind of writing mentality.
Maybe isayama had a group of ghost writers but they all quit during the rumbling arc and he had to write the ending himself?11'?!!.
i ran out of copium, guys.
It's logical explanation 😅😅😅 .
I thought the same thing at some point. The final chapters fell like someone else wrote them hahaha
I wish my character could find a solution is straight up saying i hadn't plan anything and wrote myself into a corner
dude was so disconnected from his story he thought he was spectating it from the heavens lmao
"really wish armin found a way to stop the war guys!"
And I thought Evangelion was the most financially successful anime/manga trolljob.
Isayama just needs to do a remake of AOT and put a troll ending a second time. Then he'd surpass Ano.
Make it stop make it stop make it stop make it stop
Isayama saying Zackly as his favourite character reminds me of Kishimoto saying Hidan is his favourite Akatsuki member LMAO
Atleast hidan done something cool man, he is immortal and can use his body as a voodoo
That's Arakawa fave characters btw
@@aahantomar22 lmao, she's as crazy as those guys then
@@hotsauce6789 Exactly 😂😂😂😂
Yams became jk rowling real quick
Isayama folded but he secured the bag for his spa 🤣
Jean has the best ending.. change my mind 😂
Same as farmer kun
@@keyboardwarrior3807 farmer kun is still wondering what the hell had happened.. at least Jean didn’t throw rocks at Mikasa as a kid
6:53 this part has me dead every time 💀 bro your wheezing kills me
Same XD
Isayama 🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
I think he meant the solution to FIX THE GOD DAMN STORY💀💀
Isayama in the end became the Jk Rowling of aot
Everytime something about isayama or aot comes out is destroying more and more the story. Stop yams stop it right now. It's already over. We don't deserve more pain
He literally said he finds it funny to betray people, like calling someone to the edge of a cliff and then push them down, and that he just wanted to betray everybody and Kodansha too. He's not going to stop anytime soon. I've been saying for some time that he's not well. That, or he wants to play the madman.
What's sad is that he's not pointing out whether he trolls or is being serious. He really likes to infuriate others.
I think Isayama is beginning to lose it
Loving Zackery, wanted that Armin finds a solution... Do we need more evidence that's he didn't know his characters and his story at all?
Your vids always crack me up man
If it weren't for yams going full derp mode we wouldn't have this version of saintitchief, there's always a blessing in disguise amidst of this whatever, got no words for this mess of an ending
In my opinion with the Armin part i think i know what he was trying to say, but the way he worded it out made it seem dumb
Weed does not do this to you this is something heavier than weed 😂😂😂
He's smoking odm gas
I’m still getting over the slight shock of the ending, I wasn’t expecting a happy ending, just a realistic ending that didn’t betray the characters. I’m gutted tbh
I now feel like the only good character in aot is Floch
Bro that story of your aunt is sad af I’m sorry that happened but I’m going to hell for laughing😭🤣
Selling 80 disney movies for 20$ gave me the vibes of mr krabs selling spongebob for 62ct or smt
@@shro_okeelmaoo🤣
All we can do is hope, I mean we still got an extra year and 6 months for another revised ending...
I feel like those videos back then when someone go MIA unannounced or don’t upload and people come up with crazy theories maybe they got kidnapped or being forced to make vids at gun point. This is similar concerned if the mangaka is abusing drugs or losing it or under blackmail by kodansha editors lol
Man played splatoon while planning to troll his entire fanbase
After watching this video .. yams seriously need some help
Taught us a valuable lesson, don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Oh damn I missed a stream
Does Isayama have Dissociative Identity Disorder????? Because I´m seriously concerned by this. If he feels like he didn´t write the story, he should check that out. I´m talking from experience, having a dissociation episode is not funny, everything feels unreal and you sort of move in automatic. If he has different personalities or seems himself like in third person, he should really seek help I´m talking seriously. It feels like there´s two Isayamas. Pre chapter 137 and post chapter 137. If he sees his characters as having "real personalities" , he must seek help. It might be a misstranslation, I hope... oO, this feels weird af, I´m not even mad anymore.
Hey man why don't you make a video on all the parallels between the characters and EREN YEAGER
I mean it makes sense if a writer finds out through writing a character that the character won't be able to solve a problem. But it was set up for a while that Armin would have found a solution, and Armin does absolutely nothing for the plot after eating bertholdt, so it's very obvious that Isayama just wrote himself into a corner and was like fuck it lol
I think Isayama is talking about himself. He's just saying that he wasn't able to come up with a logical solution (that Armin would put forth/implement in the story). I think the English phrasing just sounds weird.
Isayama be like "I wish Armin found out a solution to the war" mf YOU HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STORY. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO HAPPEN YOU SHOULD'VE FUCKING WRITTEN IT
Something important to note is that Armin is Isayama's surrogate in the story. When he says Armin couldn't find a way, he means "I couldn't find a way".
umi da
I don't get why this man keeps talking about his story like somebody else wrote it, geez wiz if you wanted something to happen it could've happened why act like you have no control over the characters you created or the world you put them in its so strange. Maybe this dude has a problem with disassociating or something.
We do deserve it.
On the other Hand Katsura Hoshino author of D Gray Man (if u dont know it and know it's still ongoing you are sleeping on a giant. PUN intended) Took the torch from FMA brilliantly and developed DGM and she may take time to release the manga + health issues. But she cares about her story and her characters.
4:02 this shit had me dead 😂 💀
Can anyone give me the link to this interview
This is actually insane 😂
Well, Isayama definitely destroyed his characters and turned them upside down
I hope you make a video about zeke.
I think by destroy he meant cause chaos
Found you on r/titanfolk. You are a based god.
Link?
I hoped 😂😂😂
Isayama or should I say Isayamad
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Remember that time we used to call him Goatsayama?
@@rickchakraborty2087 Ahh the innocent days
Gopher didn't make no shit machine in the lion king tho
agreed, gopher-kun is way more endearing
12:09
😊Guys, lets do something fun! What is your head cannon with what happened to Isayama, be it serious, humorous, or satirical, because this Isayama is so different from past Isayama? Just put a 🤔(serious), 🤣(comedy), or 😎(satire) before your comments. I made this post because this situation feels like if Quentin Tarantino made a movie but near the end they replace him with Micheal Bay and thinking or hoping that no one will notice. I am quite interested in what theories or humor you guys will come up with.🤞
I think he was being controlled by Ymir all along...
This man had to have had a ghost writer in the past. Maybe he got covid or something and isayama had to take over the last bit
@@chrishernandez8686 KSDJDJ this is the best theory
Isayama: i will make the best protagonist, antagonist, hero , villian everything in the manga history then he made eren and showed his character development for beautiful 137 chp
Later Isayama : o sorry it was all fake it was just nothing you know..... ...hmm....
And then everyone forces me to:: dont criticize him ( in limits, respectly) he is the best , u don't understand the story
God ( now lucifer) plz save me...
Yeah his desire to destroy a whole story.
PD: I know this video is 2 years old. But with the anime ending I wanted to come back to it.
12:54 is this acting?
Bro please increase the video volume in your videos.
the volume is too low in this one??
@@saintitchief nah this is perfect
Don't know man seemed too low on laptop but seems fine on my phone.
Based video as usual tho
@@saintitchief volume is fine
@@saintitchief volume is fine