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  • @saintitchief
    @saintitchief  3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    follow me on twitter : twitter.com/saintitchief

    • @marshalsoult3860
      @marshalsoult3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      foxen anime is a shill

    • @jamalsimmons619
      @jamalsimmons619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like how you and attack on titan show foxen all wrong. The guy is always wrong on attack on titan and sword art online too. Good thing you made a real point.😁👍

  • @eurasiaacaci.-110
    @eurasiaacaci.-110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    Foxen Anime is well known to be a deep Eremika shipper, its probably why its all made sense to him

    • @thatdude5983
      @thatdude5983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Was a huge fan of him but man he’s delusional

    • @patrickdavies9790
      @patrickdavies9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      How could he still enjoy the story after the leaks as an EM shipper?

    • @eurasiaacaci.-110
      @eurasiaacaci.-110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@patrickdavies9790 delusional or denial

    • @rotibakar7975
      @rotibakar7975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm EM shipper and i like the ending go bullied me for having an opinion

    • @lostdemon5195
      @lostdemon5195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      really? when did he say that he ships eremika as i can remember he was disgusted by the kiss scene

  • @axiom3
    @axiom3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1107

    Dude really put "No one understand Eren" on his title, pretending Eren's character is deeper than Greek philosophy lmao.

    • @JerisFair
      @JerisFair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      Yeah, it comes off as pretentious. I hate when youtubers type shit like that.

    • @laughingbob5786
      @laughingbob5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      He isnt deep at all. He's just some depressed dude who had to commit genocide cuz he needs to and people treat it like its the most relatable thing ever. Like yeah i would've killed 80% of the world to protect the sister i love which i did not have any romantic feelings for until now. And i wont even use the remaining lifespan i have to show her i really do love and care for her instead ill tell armin not to tell her because that's what love is right??? What a joke.

    • @vigneshtongaria8286
      @vigneshtongaria8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Its not character assassination it's character degradation

    • @minimeme1455
      @minimeme1455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@laughingbob5786 Let me add some stuff. Eren fucked up his entire family (his mom, his dad, his grandparents, his half-brother).
      He just wanted to do the rumbling anyway which also fucked up, who would want to flat the earth, kill people and animals because they just wanted to do it?
      A psycho and hypocrite: He kept talking about freedom, called people slaves (lmao, he never apologized to Mikasa and she is ok with that, stupid poor girl doesn't know what a healthy relationship is) while he was one himself.

    • @tonystarkhasnotfinishedhis3369
      @tonystarkhasnotfinishedhis3369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean yeah. No one understood Eren’s character. Everyone actually thinks he was seriously becoming some monster and has lost all his humanity. Even though it’s completely fking obvious he was putting an act.
      Eren’s character is deep if were comparing him to other characters in fiction.
      Naruto, goku, luffy, ichigo, deku, tanjiro, etc doesn’t come close.
      Maybe Guts
      Why tf did you bring up Greek? Where tf did that come from.
      Ppl didn’t understand eren because of the reasons on why they’re hating on it. Eren isn’t a simp, he’s about to die, so what’s wrong with saying all those things in the Paths?
      The only stupid things with Eren’s character are his motivations on why he’s doing the rumbling.
      But no one’s talking about that, instead the guy just gets memed. This fandom has a lot of idiots.

  • @axiom3
    @axiom3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +744

    I really hate when 139 defenders twist Erwin's word to justify the ending. Eren's goal was never about eradicating hate from the world or from human nature, his goal is the safety of his people. So yes, humanity will find a way to fight among themselves, but that's not the point of Eren's goal, and that has nothing to do with Eren.

    • @abhirupchoudhury1156
      @abhirupchoudhury1156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True but he did what he saw and that destroyed everything for us. Although Paradise has upper hand now and their will be no war for atmost 50 years but still there will be a grudge in the future.

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@abhirupchoudhury1156 lol no Paradis is done for

    • @abhirupchoudhury1156
      @abhirupchoudhury1156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rickchakraborty2087 no bro Eren already has destroyed all their military forts

    • @fishnutz5196
      @fishnutz5196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@abhirupchoudhury1156 paradis gets destroyed. New pages been leaked my guy. Read the volume release in June

    • @spartanoreo5075
      @spartanoreo5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@abhirupchoudhury1156 The point of the video when arguing this point was simply Eren could've gone with the euthanasia or the 50 year plan and achieved the exact same result as they serve as a means to crumble the rest of the world's military without having to commit made genocide. Where Eren's plan was just the 50 year plan with the genocide of millions.

  • @cosapocha
    @cosapocha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    I can't believe people keeps saying that Eren's goal was, is, and always will be to kill all titans.

    • @imskxmo
      @imskxmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I know right! Yeah, at first in season 1 he wanted to kill all the titans and kept that mentality up until season 2 but from season 3 onward he was more concerned about the safety of his friends and family, especially when he inherited the memories from kissing Historia's hand and learnt how garbage the outside world is.

    • @peagames2002
      @peagames2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That goal of his ended midseason. Titans weren't threatening Paradis Island, at least as common enemy (except during counter attack). His goals had changed drastically. And we all saw it.

    • @stefanijovita1640
      @stefanijovita1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it's not about Eren's goal, but more about the initial story's goal, like a hint that the story will end if this goal is achieved. I don't think erasing Titans was a bad idea. It should still be done. It's just executed poorly. The method to erase it and the reason behind it are ridiculous. It should've been just that they were completely in a situation where they didn't need the power anymore, free from war, thus free from Titans too.

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Exactly but the end of season 3 Eren was no longer interested in killing titans which was proven when he didn't kill the titan they ran into on there way to the ocean " there a fellow patriot" like seriously are these people really reading/watching the same series?

    • @ulquiorra1235
      @ulquiorra1235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Exactly that’s ever aot fans excuse on why the ending was a masterpiece💀like did we read the same manga or not

  • @PeanutButter281
    @PeanutButter281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    The fact that more ppl (em shippers at least but not all) were more upset about jeankasa being canonized than paradise being FUCKING DESTROYED, really tells that these ppl never gave a flying fuck about the story, or its themes.

    • @jadenrod2535
      @jadenrod2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It leaves this cheating ntr taste in my mouth with the jean mikasa thing . i was ok with either the worlds or paradises destruction. Plus the peace people only care about peace and dont care about the reprocussions. Basiclaly Alliance lovers dont care about paradise that much so it being destroyed doesnt matter as long as peace is done.

    • @minimeme1455
      @minimeme1455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@jadenrod2535 Some alliance fanses were mad at the ending as well, what are talking about.

    • @patrickdavies9790
      @patrickdavies9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well Jeankasa is a nothing burger bro. Legit, Mikasa visits Eren’s grave 3 times in the leaks, which is 3 more times than she ever had a one-on-one convo with Jean. You can’t blame people for criticising it came out of nowhere. Plus, I and a lot of other male fans get this disgusting taste of NTR/cockoldry from the ending now because of it. Only women could realistically like it.

    • @maboh9
      @maboh9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@patrickdavies9790 Yeah, Jeankasa came out of nowhere (just like eremika) and people are allowed to criticize it, but let's be real. The ems who criticize it do it because they can't accept that mikasa moved on, not because of how little sense the ship makes

    • @patrickdavies9790
      @patrickdavies9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maboh9 I criticise it because it’s trivialising her supposed super special love for Eren that was able to end the titan curse. If it was so special how come she moved on in 5 years? Plus, whilst EM was definitely under developed, it at least had some moments like ch 50 and 123. Jeankasa legit only exists so they can set up sequels, that’s it.

  • @BROWNSMAGIC
    @BROWNSMAGIC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +473

    How is he gonna say Eren was a slave yet say he was looking for another path the whole time.... was he In control or NOT?!

    • @saeed1366
      @saeed1366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      love your videos. respect

    • @keytra6291
      @keytra6291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Literally. Like, make up your mind dude

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      U tell them Queen!

    • @sanjanaunni8205
      @sanjanaunni8205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @BROWNSMAGIC plsssss collab with this guy and make a podcast

    • @Makingking22
      @Makingking22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yooo I was looking for your channel yesterday Luckily I found you here

  • @alittlelamby
    @alittlelamby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    wtf is Foxen talking about?? when they reach the sea at the end of the Uprising arc, it's crystal clear that eren refers to the people on the other side of the sea as his enemies.

    • @JessChillN_
      @JessChillN_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When he’s crying sad cause there is more people to kill on the other side of the sea “then will we be free” as in I’m tired of this u slow😂

    • @ryancroy
      @ryancroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then he literally told Reiner that he changed his mind and knows that there are good people too.
      Have you not read or watched it?

    • @seanzano6634
      @seanzano6634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@ryancroy he did say that. But he also said in the exact same scene that he will keep moving forward until all his enemies are destroyed. After which he proceeded to murder everyone around the area whether they were innocent or not. So in a sense, he still considered them his enemies regardless of their innocence.

    • @ryancroy
      @ryancroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@seanzano6634 He also was aware of the horrible thing he was going to. And that he would suffer from the choice he made, a choice to save the world (or at least his world).
      "I'm the same as you"

    • @seanzano6634
      @seanzano6634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ryancroy of course he knew it was wrong. It was even reiterated in chapter 130 or 131 when he saved that child knowing he was going to kill him anyway in the future. He truly felt terrible that he was going to kill innocent people but he had no other choice since it was the only way to give the island freedom.

  • @xenologue7403
    @xenologue7403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    you brave asf for this considering his following

    • @josepht5141
      @josepht5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      i am really proud that im subscribed to chibi reviews, he really said what he wanted to say about this garbage ending.

    • @fishnutz5196
      @fishnutz5196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Aye man never be afraid to call out bullshit

    • @mysteryace2129
      @mysteryace2129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Glad cause his Terrible fandom really thinks that video explains the ending where I can make surface level statements while cherry picking from past actions to support the retcon ending as well but once a critical thinker analyze those same scenes and allude it to the context of that "PAST" situation it makes no sense for it to have a turnout like 139 became.
      You can't relentlessly kill people for your ideology and claim that, "Oh Sorry Bro I didn't know what I was doing" as your endgame when the people got hooked on Eren's character from his own personal statements, conviction, and resolve in those scenes. We knew he wasn't lying or putting on an act cause of the extremities of his action that had no hesitation in doing them. You expect me to believe that this whimpering baby in 139 was capable of doing these acts with no hesitation and showed mental fortitude to stay calm in worse situations than that of 139? Hell no, almost worse of a turn than that of a Naruto villain who loses his conviction and resolve that he has been carrying for 10 plus years just to quickly turn the page after a 5 minute chat with Ar.... Cough Cough...... Naruto.

    • @genghiskhan7691
      @genghiskhan7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@josepht5141 ABD as well

    • @KanekiKen-fc3qo
      @KanekiKen-fc3qo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mysteryace2129 Honestly I can accept it with Naruto because it was clearly the theme that they were going for and Naruto accomplished what pain couldnt, he forgave and moved on. Pain had taken so much from him just like what what had happen to him but Naruto simply learned from his story and realized that he didn't want to follow pains path which I believe helped change pains goals. I think this is the theme that Naruto was going for and it worked for the situation so I give it a pass with pain but AoTs ending was ass.

  • @elmehdi8332
    @elmehdi8332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Foxen knows that the ending sucks but he still defends it cause he's afraid from his followers, he doesn't have the balls to say it's bad

    • @marshalsoult3860
      @marshalsoult3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      he’s a 🤡

    • @aswadsyednaz3073
      @aswadsyednaz3073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Aot fandom is toxic and the majority consists of 15-14 years old girls fangirls of Mikasa.
      Of course an ending where mikasa is the center of the story being poorly written is something for the to worship. If you talk bad about AoT views and subs go down so basically 80% of youtubers and reactors pretend to like everything.

  • @TakeTheWorld21
    @TakeTheWorld21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    Foxen’s just one of those EM shippers that were happy his ship was made canon

    • @Leon-vy2wi
      @Leon-vy2wi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Fr bro he is a clown

    • @yahwhey2392
      @yahwhey2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      H O R S E D

    • @r0z1n88
      @r0z1n88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      HORSED

    • @reius7198
      @reius7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      oh no no no dont tell him about the leaks

    • @nickoaditya9641
      @nickoaditya9641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      EM ship was never a canon, it was never even sailed to begin with, Eren's already dead before they ever became couple, lol. And now we knew that Mikasa moved on and gave her womb to Jean, lol.

  • @meawiyaothman7872
    @meawiyaothman7872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I swear some youtuber are doing that intentionally but they know the ending is ass, sheep’s

  • @SuperXrayDoc
    @SuperXrayDoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +566

    The man has no principles. I can accept people like the ending even if I think their reasons are stupid but he doesn't genuinely like it, he is just saying what the majority of his fanbase wants to hear. People who don't stand by their opinions or principles are pathetic in my eyes.

    • @justinpachi3707
      @justinpachi3707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Funny thing is that most of the fandom has now United in hatred of this extended ending.

    • @Isaiasguerrerorivas
      @Isaiasguerrerorivas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You don't know him personally, so why make assumptions on what he thinks or why he do what he does?

    • @minimeme1455
      @minimeme1455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@Isaiasguerrerorivas dude stfu 😂

    • @qassimmohd3179
      @qassimmohd3179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I completely agree with you

    • @braedenhindes5694
      @braedenhindes5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Isaiasguerrerorivas because I can keep crying

  • @LegendaryBattalion
    @LegendaryBattalion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    Foxen probably doesn’t want to upset his viewers, he’s pretty lame.
    His points are way off base.

    • @SuperMatthew345
      @SuperMatthew345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      He's tailored his video to make his viewers happy, the same way Isayama tailored his ending to make "viewers happy".

    • @senamcudjoe3637
      @senamcudjoe3637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think some of his points were good until this video showed up

    • @Krax0n-
      @Krax0n- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SuperMatthew345 its ironic how the popularity of aot seemingly caused isayama to alter is ending to "appeal" to fans and ultimately just ended up pissing the majority off xD

    • @comradedawid5292
      @comradedawid5292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, tbf, he in terms of theories had been fairly accurate at times months before they came out

    • @senamcudjoe3637
      @senamcudjoe3637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comradedawid5292 yhhhh

  • @willpoweramv
    @willpoweramv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    Eren Yeager. A GOAT MC ruined by his own creator...

    • @Flare_kil
      @Flare_kil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Isayama's hobby is Ruining characters and Killing them of

    • @funsavoury2591
      @funsavoury2591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How was he ‘ruined’??? Bro went from a lame typical MC to an absolute badass... how is his character ruined? Do y’all prefer emotional kid Eren? I don’t get it

    • @user-zm1ie4wt4i
      @user-zm1ie4wt4i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@funsavoury2591 Eren went from being a naive kid to being stoic and determined, but all of that development was retconned by Yams in the last three chapters. Peak Eren was Chapters 121-131, but Isayama completely retconned his character arc and where the story was headed by making him have a retarded plan, making him love Mikasa and Armin despite never interacting them after the time skip, and by replacing his goal of freeing the Eldian people to protecting his friends.

    • @djco8919
      @djco8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-zm1ie4wt4i He did free the Eldian people.
      Why wouldnt he love his friends?
      And the plan worked at least before the new ending.

    • @funsavoury2591
      @funsavoury2591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-zm1ie4wt4i what? You saying he shouldn’t love his childhood friends? That’s what he should’ve done. Fuck the greater good. I would save my friends first too. You just didn’t like the ending. It’s not what you wanted, I get it. That’s it. It’s not trash, it’s just not to your liking. lol meantime, a lot of us found the last few chapters poetically bittersweet...

  • @alittlelamby
    @alittlelamby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I'm glad someone is finally calling Foxen out on his bs

    • @izurutrassh6379
      @izurutrassh6379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Devin The Dude i only watched his anime vs manga aot vids and his season 4 updates

    • @marshalsoult3860
      @marshalsoult3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he talks about on his video “what is erens berserk in s1”
      and the only explanation is “anime orginal”
      but his video took more than 10-13 mins 🤦‍♂️

  • @kronosaurus
    @kronosaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    Some people just go with what ever is popular sentiment to try and get ending up racking up dislikes young defiant did when he called 139 trash a month ago. The lengths people to excuse crappy writing is so funny. At least even shippers are admitting it was the only thing they cared about now and that they didn't care about the plot.

    • @arieb7589
      @arieb7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      youngdefiant called aot trash way before the end so people were probably just mad he was right 💀

    • @peptobismol3949
      @peptobismol3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arieb7589 lmao fr?

    • @arieb7589
      @arieb7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peptobismol3949 yeah lmao it’s one of his more popular videos

    • @malcolmisgee
      @malcolmisgee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep people always excuse crapppppy as$ writing due to nostalgia or in YT case views. He had to be the one guy who’s different for the views.

    • @sethyesseth55
      @sethyesseth55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean the only thing that made sense in both chapters is that Eren still wants to still live and be "free", you're a 19 year old kid who will lose it all..burst of emotions will happen and this, the dialogues however, didn't do him justice.. especially with this added chapters it's like they'll milk the shit and story out of Eren unless they make eren the new ymir and make him truly be the end of everything but that would go against everything eren ever did but also the thing I hated the most is the fact that the lelouch way of ending it was fucking perfect and foreshadowed through out his history...the fact that he is always ready to sacrifice himself for the sakes of others (Armin, mikasa and Armin, rest of the scouts, levi squad, many more) it made sense because Eren hasn't changed, his way of doing things may have but the fact that will always stay is the fact that he will save everyone but still at the end of the day whether S1 Eren or not or this so called "Chad Eren" Eren still can't risk nothing, he may not have the same iq as both of his brothers but he definitely know the fact that it'll always be better guaranteed than gamble on a thread the 80% will always be the issue.. the ending might be problematic but what the hell we might even see Beren: The Next Generation where he becomes the titan king but power of friendship or sum shit

  • @ralphr2711
    @ralphr2711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Foxen is a Isayama fanboy/bootlicker so no matter how garbage the plot and the ending is, he's still gonna praise it (pseudo-intellectual style).
    He's one of those "don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product" guy...

  • @thehuman1171
    @thehuman1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    He mostly appeals to what he’s fans believe because he runs a poll and if his fans say yes then he will
    Say yes

  • @ramialshaibani3382
    @ramialshaibani3382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    If the leaks are true I can't wait for him to see how he will defend it, his a massive simp for aot

    • @sutefanisoreru4814
      @sutefanisoreru4814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He'll stay real quiet 😂 he keeps telling people in comments in his last video that the leaks are false we shouldn't fall for false rumors and whatnot 😂😂😂

    • @stefanijovita1640
      @stefanijovita1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm a massive simp for AoT, but I'm also disappointed with the ending, although I came to accept it (nothing can be done). I don't even expect anything for the extra pages.

    • @kiattim2100
      @kiattim2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sutefanisoreru4814 he said "dont believe in that crap easily"

    • @sutefanisoreru4814
      @sutefanisoreru4814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kiattim2100 yup I remember it and he now put a video out about the "crap" and the "fake leaks" he's just laughable

    • @fernimpact5926
      @fernimpact5926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao he saw it and he tried to defend it STILL. even if before he was like "its a fake dont believe it"

  • @yeicore
    @yeicore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    When someone says that Eren is not contradicted bc he finished with the titans, just as he said when he was a kid, there I realize they did FR not understand Eren's development. Eren changed his mentality about titans. Thats why he didn't kill the weird titan before going to see the ocean, because he understood Titans were not monsters, they were victims of Marley and Ymir's curse, living an eternal nightmare, not being free.

    • @pinkaengelz
      @pinkaengelz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      FR! I feel like these people just forgot everything in order to defend this ending

    • @Bestintheinternet
      @Bestintheinternet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It does line up though if he has that mentality. Instead of killing the titan, he saved them by reverting to human, and it turn freeing them from the curse, and saving everyone else with the curse of ymir

    • @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
      @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Bestintheinternet they all die in the future so what good did it serve taking away the only advantage they had?

  • @pinkaengelz
    @pinkaengelz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "Not Enough for some of you" that's laughable, I guess it wasn't enough for Paradis' survival either since they were nuked😂

    • @Queen2ThaZ
      @Queen2ThaZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Right lol

  • @pravum3150
    @pravum3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The chief has spoken

  • @FateTearsStudios
    @FateTearsStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Something that nobody mentions is that Grisha SEEN the future and told Zeke to stop Eren. Looking at the ending that we got... was Grisha asking Zeke to PREVENT the ending, Eren's death, Paradis's end, and ultimately the titan powers continuing?

    • @kronosaurus
      @kronosaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Stop my son...your brother from becoming a simp!!!!

    • @thehuman1171
      @thehuman1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Then why in gods name did Grisha give the titan to Eren

    • @mohamedelhediissa289
      @mohamedelhediissa289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thehuman1171 since he only got the future memories when he went to the Reiss family and then eren was already 10 years old
      If for example you are told at this moment that your brother's birth will cause the demise of humanity, you can't do anything about it because he is already born
      Same with eren he is already born so he can't do anything about it
      You could say he should've killed eren but that would lead to a worse ending, who knows maybe Zeke could've stopped him

    • @darklord1510
      @darklord1510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The fuck???? Grisha specifically said “stop Eren” meaning the full rumbling. This is a plothole bc grisha gives Eren the attack titan that same night. Why would he want his son to be stopped at the last min and then proceed to give him the titan? He could have given it to literally anyone else but no…..

    • @spartanoreo5075
      @spartanoreo5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@darklord1510 Alot of people argue this point by trying to use the fixed timeline mentality, despite Grisha being shown to not have a fixed mindset as Eren had to convince him in order to simply kill the Reis family.

  • @shishisonson100
    @shishisonson100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Damn man, i could feel how you were trying to keep it respectful while listening to this guy talking out of his ass

    • @BackBeater
      @BackBeater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly 😂

  • @KrissKingdom
    @KrissKingdom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    That crawling titan scene is one that keeps popping into my mind whenever people say eren's goal was to still kill the titans, he literally let that one go
    The goal completely changed which is one of the aspects of the basement reveal that made it genius, well brought up!

    • @braedenhindes5694
      @braedenhindes5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      and they counter argument is "Eren knew everyone would turn back"
      Then why was he mad about Historia being turned into a titan if Eren knew she would turn back? Makes no sense.

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly!!!!!

  • @user-zv6cf3km6h
    @user-zv6cf3km6h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    U dropped this 👑

  • @syvxnico
    @syvxnico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    foxen slander lets gooo

  • @dbelow_1556
    @dbelow_1556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Did he seriously miss the entire point of the basement reveal? Did he seriously ignore *all* of Eren's development because of it?
    We SEE Eren get over his hatred of titans when he finds one crawling on the ground, ripe for killing, but then he touches it's forehead, notes that he and the titan are on the same side, and leaves it be.

  • @SuperMatthew345
    @SuperMatthew345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    6:00 Eren actually didn't know about Marley's counterattack, hence his surprised reaction. However, he already knew he was going to meet Zeke there and activate the rumbling, so he knew he'd be fine. That's why he ignored Yelena's warning.
    Reminds me of HunterxHunter when Chrollo was captured. He had his future predicted but that prediction excluded his capture. He concludes that his capture "wasn't even worth noting. This is like an afternoon walk", or something like that.
    10:37 He's literally falling for the retcon like Kodansha wants. FoxenAnime really thinks Eren was not only lying to his friends, but in his internal monologues and the readers? How is FoxenAnime so dense? It's amazing how smug he is about his points, even though he doesn't seem to have read the same story.
    Anyway, he has more subs so that must mean he's right.

    • @__-dq9ev
      @__-dq9ev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think Eren just knew about specific event that will happen. It's like we know we will die but we don't know how we get to that point

    • @koui4449
      @koui4449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@__-dq9ev sadly my dude thats only a deduction nothing proves it so yeagarist fandom has just faith that he saw the entire future

    • @MrsPokefan2009
      @MrsPokefan2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@koui4449 he did see the future tho, once he got his head blown off and entered Paths. Before that he only got glimpses of the future with Attack Titan's ability, just like shifters get past memories. Now I don't want to use 139 as evidence because idk how accurate some things are, but he said that past present and future were existing at once so he really did see most of it. Not sure if Isayama meant to do this, or it was just added for 139 to make somewhat sense but yeah, at some point he did see it. It might have been incomplete because he was seeing too much info at once and forgot some of it, like when we are dreaming, or because he can only see some events leading up to his death.

    • @williamconto6977
      @williamconto6977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pareto theory my friend, within a populace, most are morons, a huge group are decent, a bunch are keen, and a pack are geniuses. This was made to appeal to the masses, hence why it was dumbed down and crushed. Guys like Shakespeare or Wagner would be ostracized in their respectives media had they lived in present times.

  • @bellpheria
    @bellpheria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The funny thing really is that after witnessing twice how the rest of the world was eager to destroy the eldians, Eren still went with his plan of killing 80% of the world and let Armin do the peace talk.
    Also, how did he think making a Helos 2.0 was a good idea ? He knows better than anyone else how the head of the Tybur family ended up. This family was living as aristrocrats while the rest of their people was hated and despised. And this is the exact same thing that happens with the Alliance and the rest of the eldians. Some are heroes while the rest are monsters.
    Instead of putting an end to this vicious circle, Eren initiated a new one, repeating the exact same mistakes.
    Eren said to Historia that the war won't end until one party is anihilated and yet still let Armin try to talk for peace, that's just doesn't make sense.
    Eren basically gave up his duty to let others finish it. Yet, he already learnt what happens if you trust your friends rather than yourself. He blamed himself in the very first season, after witnessing the whole Levi squad die when he had the power to save them.
    Even in the cave during the uprising arc, he decided to take action and believe in himself to save everyone.
    I guess in the end, he really didn't learn from the mistakes from the past and didn't really care for his people.

  • @sanjanaunni8205
    @sanjanaunni8205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Foxanimation is like isayama, trying to please everyone but at the end just pisses them off

  • @mboseman2895
    @mboseman2895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    I don't know why people feel a need to lie and say the ending is great or amazing. It's not, from a writing stand point it is objectively bad. I don't care if someone likes the ending despite how bad it is - everyone has their guilty pleasures. But to act as if it's a cohesive or decent ending is just a lie. They need to stop deluding themselves. The only honest and objective Anime TH-camr I saw actually pointing out the faults of the ending was AnimeBallsDeep.

    • @pawnscrib1842
      @pawnscrib1842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      ig theyre scared of hurting a millionare's feelings

    • @brianechevarria3776
      @brianechevarria3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Exactly! lol Another youtube channel that discussed this mess of an ending were the eren denialists.

    • @foxinthebin4764
      @foxinthebin4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's all for traction my friend

    • @jjokesonya8816
      @jjokesonya8816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      AnimeBallsDeep is amazing, he also explained historia's plothole and eren mikasa's love etc. In just 1 hour

    • @PrimexMaxusTitan
      @PrimexMaxusTitan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s almost like people have different opinions

  • @nobchopper9728
    @nobchopper9728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I’m convinced the writer ditched Eren and Historia destroying the world half way through the final arc. It was set up so perfectly then does a complete 180 and destroys Eren and Historia character. Historia is a waste of panels and potential.
    The whole baby drama was a complete joke unless Eren was the father and used that baby to wipe out humanity being the first born free child of the new world named Ymir. Eren in the end being riddled in guilt of wiping out humanity and the people he wanted to save the most.

  • @CobaltGOAT
    @CobaltGOAT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I can't believe that others actually argued that Eren's development was just a front. We see him LITERALLY IN HIS OWN MIND AND INTROSPECTION ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS. Hell, we got a whole ass arc of him in the PATHs world, which is the most authentic version of him. There's no way he lied to himself in his own head too lmao. I can see him telling Mikasa he hated her being a front, but to pull the rug out from under like that is bad writing.
    His 131 and 139 comparisons were disingenuous, in terms of Eren's breakdown. Nobody was upset that Eren cried, they were upset at WHY he cried. There's a reason that 131's breakdown was well received as one of the best moments in the series. That humanized Eren super well because although he had a strong will and resolve to move forward and destroy the entire world, he still has his regrets and can't look the person he's about to kill in the eye. That makes him human, and that makes him a well-written flawed character. 139's breakdown was all over... Mikasa possibly marrying somebody else and moving on? When there was little indication that he loved her romantically too?
    Overall though, I loved the video you made, especially the format of playing out his points, and then, responding to them directly. Looking forward to more. I subscribed.

  • @Redjanuary17
    @Redjanuary17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Even isayama didn't put much effort in eren's character as much as people do

    • @meawiyaothman7872
      @meawiyaothman7872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Isayama: is literally writing shit it feels intentionally
      Fans: oh wow soo deep such good writing

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@meawiyaothman7872 typical AoT fanboys

    • @mrmintios8817
      @mrmintios8817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@meawiyaothman7872 they treat criticisms of isayamas writing as death threats

    • @ulquiorra1235
      @ulquiorra1235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrmintios8817 exactly the aot fanbase is as bad as the mha fanbase. Filled with weirdos and annoying mfs that just cry all day

    • @mitchellwilliam95
      @mitchellwilliam95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ulquiorra1235 The only ones crying are the ones who are literally crying about the last chapter(s)

  • @Yusei5ds0707
    @Yusei5ds0707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Foxen is a crowd pleaser.

  • @Lincia517
    @Lincia517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That foxen guy sounds like he's either trying to please his audience or he has no idea what he's talking about..

  • @reeseespino1253
    @reeseespino1253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    No one is gonna talk about how Ymir was freed twice? First by Eren, then by Mikasa? Eren freeing Ymir was retconned?!! Wtf?!? The ending makes that entire scene pointless!!! But if Ymir wasn’t actually free, how did she reject Zeke’s orders and start the rumbling? But if she rejected Zeke’s orders and started the rumbling under her own free will, why did the rumbling stop after Zeke died? Makes no sense and no one cares!!!! Wtf!!!!

    • @edwardedison1661
      @edwardedison1661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Huh? Eren gave Ymir freedom of choice. Mikasa helped her make that choice.
      If something doesn't make sense...have y'all ever just considered that you're not even TRYING to make sense at some point?

    • @reeseespino1253
      @reeseespino1253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@edwardedison1661 Even if what you said was true, that means Ymir made The Rumbling happen just so she could bring to fruition the moment that would help her to overcome her love for King Fritz. All that death and destruction for one person and we’re supposed to feel bad for her? She ruined The Whole world for her own sake!!!

    • @edwardedison1661
      @edwardedison1661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reeseespino1253 Okay, and? You say that like the world was good in the first place to her when all it has even done was just bring her misery to the point where she gets drunk on a drop of love from one of the worst humans to ever exist.
      Also, Ymir saw herself in Mikasa...so how else was she going to let go of her attachment to KF?
      Also, also, you know how many people fucking died already? This is Aot bruh.

    • @capocanoneri5521
      @capocanoneri5521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Clown. Why ymir not see historia rejects and kill your father instead ?
      Mikasa never was the key off the snk. Never.
      Watch all seasons.... Gabi has more screentime and dialogues than necrokasa

    • @lookbothways5104
      @lookbothways5104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I simply didn't understand anything. The story started going downhill when the main characters came across Annie and they literally said nothing to her and laughed it off after all the suffering she caused. Season 4 is rushed. The poor animators have to work their asses off as well in a very short time. I could have waited some extra 2 years if it meant getting a better animated season with a better conclusion, it's like isayama is no longer interested in AoT and he just wants to finish it off.

  • @jamesbrick250
    @jamesbrick250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    AnimeUproar is another TH-camr that also said we did not understand the story. 👻

    • @saintitchief
      @saintitchief  3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      say less

    • @pluoit2496
      @pluoit2496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@saintitchief yes! Reveal those hypocrites!

    • @PrimexMaxusTitan
      @PrimexMaxusTitan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pluoit2496 how is it hypocrisy? Arrogance, maybe. But hypocrisy?

    • @eh-bd2ee
      @eh-bd2ee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And guess what he is a big em shipper lmaoo

    • @surajkarki3511
      @surajkarki3511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saintitchief Abu manga Review is the other youtuber too 💀

  • @coochieslayer93
    @coochieslayer93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Attack on Titan fans trying to cope i just hope vagabond or berserk don’t fumble like this
    Edit-Kentaro Miuras legacy will live on R.I.P

    • @outazarine190
      @outazarine190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i just hope for vAgabond to return ... its been a while man :')

    • @mboseman2895
      @mboseman2895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      The good thing about Berserk is that Miura doesn't give a shit about what his fans want, he does what's good for the story. Let alone hunting for shippers' opinions on Twitter.

    • @jadibdraws
      @jadibdraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Vagabond is based off of a true story so the chances on it fumbling are slim to none but Berserk on the other hand. I really that mangaka has gotten tired of that story tbh they barely work on it. Heck they may die before that story ends

    • @skandosh9025
      @skandosh9025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jadibdraws AOT is also copied from a book called "the eternal champion " . Its really fucking good but you already know that as AOT was also good .However, Isayama didnt copy the ending and the plot went to the gutter .

    • @jadibdraws
      @jadibdraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skandosh9025 AOT isn't really based on that more like inspired by like Berserk was inspired by Devilman when I say based on I mean they have the same names and relatively the same background stories as real historical figures like how Vinland Saga is based of the actually Viking thorfinns life. The major plot points of these stories and endings pretty much are already out there.

  • @ShiroKage-h8v
    @ShiroKage-h8v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Foxen is delusional

  • @shanechavarria9532
    @shanechavarria9532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love it how Paradis gets destroyed with over 10 main characters dying offscreen . He should have just kept Jean Connie and gabi as Titans If he wanted to end up killing them all smhhhhh

  • @skisme3602
    @skisme3602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Eren calls anything he demonizes “animals” to probably make it easier to kill whatever he’s killing.

    • @LeCatization
      @LeCatization 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah, clearly all the people he called animals were secretly titans including the kidnappers who killed Mikasa's parents, Eren knew it all along but everyone else didn't. /s

    • @imskxmo
      @imskxmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If this is a joke, I'm sorry, I'll r/wooosh myself
      But by that logic, all the non Eldians across the world that died are also Titans 💀

    • @LeCatization
      @LeCatization 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imskxmo if you're referring to me and not the op, I thought the "/s" at the end made it obviously a joke

  • @RainSennin_ismyAlt
    @RainSennin_ismyAlt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Can't wait how Foxen defends titan powers still existing and Paradis being destroyed 😂🤞

  • @kimberlycatwow7041
    @kimberlycatwow7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    thank you for breaking this down! Just thank you. EM shippers like Foxen is a menace to society.

    • @lordartoriuscollbrande7434
      @lordartoriuscollbrande7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, people like Foxen Anime are literally the reason why COVID-19 existed. He probably secretly wanted China to win taking over the world and to make everyone eat bat soup and everyone be a slave to him humping Mikasa body pillows like the Nazi he is.

    • @hyninjax4897
      @hyninjax4897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordartoriuscollbrande7434 idk but aren't ending hater the reason why covid 19 existed cuz their want to destroy the entiry world 100% Thing.

  • @christhechilled
    @christhechilled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Foxen is so creditless on his Eren that it hurts to see that he rather fanboi 139 instead of critiquing the ending.

  • @IgboKing
    @IgboKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I didn’t watch yet but my respect for you shot to 10000000%

  • @mooncrow2447
    @mooncrow2447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Nothing but a hype man youtuber. They really need a step back from their egos and listen to the other side.

  • @laughingbob5786
    @laughingbob5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    "I yearn to be the freest boy in the world"
    "I will trample over the world untill all existing life there has been eliminated"
    "I have to keep moving forward to save my friends and the people of paradis"
    Yeah it was all an act and we all fell for it
    Internal monologues are an act and we fell for it boys

    • @javierdipp7510
      @javierdipp7510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Mikasa finding another man?! I don't want that!

    • @eurasiaacaci.-110
      @eurasiaacaci.-110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@javierdipp7510 and they say that he is not a simp wtf

    • @abhirupchoudhury1156
      @abhirupchoudhury1156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He saved his dear friends atleast

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@abhirupchoudhury1156 lol we will see for how long, although yes I think his friends will still survive even if a nuke falls on them, because their plot armour is just too high(especially Mikasa and Armin)

    • @laughingbob5786
      @laughingbob5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@abhirupchoudhury1156 Saving his dear friends while Paradis goes to shit is not only the most selfish act possible, it renders the whole series pointless.
      Paradis' freedom? Pointless.
      Survey Corps' sacrifices? Pointless.
      The whole war against Marley? Pointless.
      Yeagerist faction? Pointless.
      The whole fkin story? Absolutely pointless.

  • @JinxMaster95
    @JinxMaster95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    i understand that Isayama changed the ending for a crash grab sequel

    • @SuperMatthew345
      @SuperMatthew345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Naruto's last arc was kinda ass and there really weren't any stakes. We now know Kishimoto kept most of the characters alive for the sequel, that he wouldn't end up writing.
      Similarly, Isayama trashed his ending to set up for a sequel. Ofc, he won't write it himself since he's retiring.

    • @devinomatsu2444
      @devinomatsu2444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it was Hajime Isayama editor who is a Huge EM shipper who ruined other works ending as well Isayama also said who his editor is too XD

    • @patrickdavies9790
      @patrickdavies9790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@devinomatsu2444 The editor is more an EMA fan than he is an EM fan, there’s a reason he allowed Mikasa to move on with another man is cause he hated Eren and felt that he needed some humiliation.

    • @devinomatsu2444
      @devinomatsu2444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickdavies9790 Isayama editor was not the one to look over the 8 page's what are you talking about it was like 2 or 1 other person looking at the page's

    • @xlrrockmusic
      @xlrrockmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperMatthew345 Sequel with 1 kid of paradis yeeeeeeeeeee boy

  • @DrMudarris
    @DrMudarris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Foxen is cringe af, I never liked his "analysis" videos, and I never understood why he was so popular

  • @alexvaughan1013
    @alexvaughan1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Here's what could've saved Historia, gave the Shifters long lives and allowed Paradis to keep the Titans: Use the Founder to ask Ymir to remove the Curse of Ymir. I can't fucking believe nobody thought of that!

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Exactly just get rid of the 13 year rule then you can keep the power for as long as you want

  • @kscuber3ksksks
    @kscuber3ksksks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    God, when people say that eren is the same as he was in season 1 and compare 131 to 139 is makes me physically cringe since 131 shows us the culmination of erens character development while 139 destroys it for some cheap emotion and shock value.

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      131 showed erens humanity without contradicted anything he said or did in previous chapters while 139 went against everything eren stood for as a character and this is comming from someone who didn't even like timeskip eren

    • @nah2685
      @nah2685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      139 eren is nothing like eren in season one . Even kid eren will never stop moving forward he will never give up on his freedom for some walmart lelouch plan like eren said himself he was born this way. To make c139 make sense u need to say eren was acting in the whole manga even in his inner monologue and when he is alone which this what c139 defenders say and over what a f ship ? Idk what this story did to deserve this fandom

    • @kscuber3ksksks
      @kscuber3ksksks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nah2685 yeah I really hate the argument the defenders say which is ' eren always wanted to destroy the titans and he did'. Like NO. Eren wanted FREEDOM and would fight anything that took his freedom. In season 1 to 3 it was the titans now it's the rest of humanity therefore the full timing alligns perfectly with this philosophy. Also people that say the all of eren after the timeskip is a facade are honestly dumb cos they don't see the development over 3 seasons that forced eren to push aside his emotions in order to fight for the bigger goal. I admit the mikasa, Armin talk was fake as he had to push them away as they would hinder his "full rumbling plan". Apart from that I would say he was being mostly himself, I would say imo that PATHS eren is his truest self. I don't like 139 because it shits on all erens previous moments, introduces love for no reason, and just tells us, well not everyone is dead and so even though they are angry and wanna kill u our lord and saviour Armin is there to hypnotize them into peace.
      Sorry for the long rant, I just saw foxxen's video and that made me laugh out of disbelief lol.

    • @thabokgwele5268
      @thabokgwele5268 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what's worse, they actually interpret 131 as Eren being mad at people *JUST EXISTING* . they think he's driven by Armin's book, even though chapter 84 shows Eren admitting to forgetting all about Armin's book lmao.

  • @surajkarki3511
    @surajkarki3511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    💀 expose them 👑

  • @klmknop
    @klmknop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    He didn’t understand the story, he’s just mad that his ship isn’t canon. He shouldn’t disrespect Isayama’s hard work, he’s so ungrateful 🥺😤

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Every AoT fanboy ever:

    • @mitchellwilliam95
      @mitchellwilliam95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickchakraborty2087 Every wannabe sardonic:

    • @marcoarana2773
      @marcoarana2773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You shippers are fucking cancer

    • @klmknop
      @klmknop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marcoarana2773 this was a jab at the shippers dumbass

    • @pauldee7504
      @pauldee7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get it.

  • @SnuSnuDungeon
    @SnuSnuDungeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The bigger TH-camrs played it safe by skating around the ending by giving a watered down view for engagement and clicks. I couldn't make it through his last chapter video because he was straddling that fence so hard.

    • @fishnutz5196
      @fishnutz5196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To be fair i have seen a few of the bigger channels starting to trash it after these new leaks but yeah they are just shills. They try watch every anime under the sun and are therefor casuals that dont understand things properly

  • @EternalxSnow
    @EternalxSnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    can 139 defenders please stop saying Chad Eren was an act?!
    Kid Eren literally killed Mikasa's kidnappers in cold blood and wasn't sorry about it.
    His breaking down in 131 was so meaningful now it means shit.
    How high was Foxen when he made this video, lol

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ishyama literally made an entire chapter that proved " Chad eren " isn't an act otherwise why have mikasa and Armin question if they ever really understood eren if it was all an act?

    • @EternalxSnow
      @EternalxSnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@thatoneblackdude3333 Exactly. Eren's growth to becoming an anti-hero made sense. And omg, have you seen the leaks for the additional pages of 139? Paradis got destroyed lmao.

    • @eh-bd2ee
      @eh-bd2ee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thatoneblackdude3333 right like can someone tell me why mikasa threw Armin on the table if there was no truth to her being a slave smh. Ig only ymir knows.

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EternalxSnow yea I saw clown shoes shit

    • @EternalxSnow
      @EternalxSnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@thatoneblackdude3333 Eren boy did die achieving nothing in the end. Why did Isayama had to massacre his character like that....

  • @pugzmanz460
    @pugzmanz460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    foxen: 🤡

  • @biancaioana8579
    @biancaioana8579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That moment when you are an em shipper and a few weeks ago u defend the ending like ur life depend on it,and now after the leaks ur trying to came up with some "smart"excuses,that doesn't make sense at all, when in fact all you could say is that you don't like it cuz ur ship isn't that canon after all,and the only reason u like it in the first place was bc ur cringe ship. Suddently everyone notice the plot holes now. Isn't the "strOng LoVe" enought anymore?

  • @lxfj2128
    @lxfj2128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Why is erens character rocket science that’s to hard to understand according to foxen anime. Chapter 137 to chap139 defenders are embarrassments what’s there to defend. So fake Chad eren who we heard his inner monologue was an act Yh right. It’s best if foxen anime doesn’t make attack on Titan videos anymore

  • @hazzal2470
    @hazzal2470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your video was like listening to my own thoughts, THANKYOU for not being a sheep high up in the clouds of copium.

  • @lxfj2128
    @lxfj2128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Eren stopped talking about wiping out titans once he reached the beach . Foxen did u forget that he’s new goal to was to obtain freedom by liking his enemies beyond the sea what story does this guy read

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He didn't understand the story

    • @Blackbirdiiie
      @Blackbirdiiie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickchakraborty2087 no you fake snk fan you are the one who didn't understand the story !!😡you don't deserve isayama and snk 😡😡😡

    • @spartanoreo5075
      @spartanoreo5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blackbirdiiie Does your point have any relevance to this comment besides the whole 'No u' point?

    • @Blackbirdiiie
      @Blackbirdiiie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spartanoreo5075 I was being sarcastic..

    • @spartanoreo5075
      @spartanoreo5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blackbirdiiie Ah!! Imma take this L and walk outside for a bit. Xp

  • @spencersivertson7241
    @spencersivertson7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Based. I appreciate the bit about how people think everyone who supported Eren before 139 is just a hungry bloodthirsty maniac, when in reality we just wanted to see his character reach it’s logical conclusion. The way people justify the ending is by taking the conclusion as fact and working backwards to force a narrative where it makes sense. Instead of using what we were shown in the story thus far and questioning if what happened in 139 is congruent with everything that came before it. It’s impressive mental gymnastics and a testament to how people will refuse to be critical with a property they love despite its numerous shortcomings. I love AoT but that doesn’t exempt it from criticism.
    Great video, I also appreciate how respectful you were to the creator you were responding to. I’m not a fan of Foxen Anime but I think by presenting yourself honestly and not throwing shit at other people you make a far better case than most. Too many people in this fandom don’t really present our side well because they try to argue the person and not the point which means no one is actually listening. Really enjoyed this video!

  • @SS1orys
    @SS1orys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Eren's goal was to eradicate titans" I can't express how much I hate this argument. Eren didn't give a shit about titans, he care more about being a scout, the idea of being free, not locked inside caged walls. Why don't people understand that titans are literally just weapons of war? For those who like making this argument, if you're mom was shot by a gun, would you blame the gun or the person who shot her? Would you feel better by beating the shit out of the gun or the person who pull the trigger? These sort of argument are dumb, Eren's hatred started with the titans because that's all he ever know, but as time went on he realizes that humanity caused his Mother's death (until 139 of course).

    • @ascendedsavage7040
      @ascendedsavage7040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly that's what I've saying this whole time. If a person shot your mom you're not gonna destroy every gun in the world you're gonna kill the people that set up your mother's death. Thats such a stupid argument titans weren't the main reason people hated eldians its because of the sins of there ancestors. They even stated that the titan powers were soon to be rendered useless because of the worlds advancements in technology and once that happens they'll slaughter all the eldians. And him being the one that killed his mom🤮 that was so unnecessary could've literally left that out and it would have no effect in the story

  • @josepht5141
    @josepht5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Foxen would not even dare have a debate with the people who understand the story. He is scared to be whooped by reality.

  • @CamusZekeSirius
    @CamusZekeSirius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    10:39
    “Because it wasn’t an AAAAAAAAAACT!”
    Talk to em bro

  • @fishnutz5196
    @fishnutz5196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This Foxen man about to read the complete chapter in June and retract everything. Cause titans still there and Paradis gone. Now was 80% still smart? Deadass

  • @inspektical2393
    @inspektical2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I want to kill all the titans (beginning) ----> Character development and plot progression - WE are the Titans, we deserve freedom no matter how we're born and what we're born with ----> I want to wipe out our enemies who keep us from Freedom -----> Destroys all titans.... Is satisfied? (ending)
    You can not tell me this isn't ERASING development.

    • @marshalsoult3860
      @marshalsoult3860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      degradation is what you call for eren to Aaron

  • @wrath_of_thrawn2163
    @wrath_of_thrawn2163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    'Why doesn't the world just blow up Paradis island? Well, thankfully Isayama already explained this, Paradis is safe for decades and decades'
    Isayama, literally days later: *Paradis gets carpet bombed into oblivion
    This is what happens when you try and blindly defend stuff ignoring all critical aspects of reality

  • @saltystick_99
    @saltystick_99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    God I used to watch Foxen because I liked the stuff he put out but
    That "Eren pulled an act that you guys fell for" pissed me off.
    If it was an act, we would have had breadcrumbs and foreshadowing for that. Instead what we got was that Eren saw too much that messed him up, so he tried to commit the best possible outcome that would result in his friends living long lives and not have to worry about any wars declared on Paradis.
    Clearly he failed because he killed 80% of humanity, and if the leaks are true (which I won't be surprised if they are), then Paradis is pretty much the definition of screwed.

    • @saltystick_99
      @saltystick_99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      _Also_ if Animals = Titans.
      Then that means he could've gone with Zeke's Euthanasia plan.

  • @prince_twon9273
    @prince_twon9273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Foxen a SAO fan. That's all you need to know lol

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Wtf thanks for letting me know. Never watching his cringe again. Yikes.

    • @estehtix
      @estehtix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even i disagree with his eva 3+1 review

    • @admiral_chika6780
      @admiral_chika6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyngD469 just cause he likes sao lol grow up

  • @gertha
    @gertha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Foxen is a complete clown. I'd critique his video but I don't want to give 139 defender/apologists any clicks or views. I'd rather give it to videos like this that are following for the plot and calling out the blatant BS retcons and nonsense we've been served in lieu of an ending that ties everything together.

  • @yeoj996
    @yeoj996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Foxen was known to be an EM shipper. That's why I think he liked the ending.

  • @azariahfab
    @azariahfab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can't wait for them last pages to come out 😂😂

  • @juliaomar4408
    @juliaomar4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Man you funny as hell 😭😭 stay having me crying with these reactions keep it up! Love the logical explanations

  • @Hurley708
    @Hurley708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really didn't the part where "80%" of the world was wiped out. Why is there a specific number and why is it so severely lacking? The writers could have simply put "The majority of the world was wiped out." At least with that there's some ambiguity if Eren succeeded in protecting the island.

  • @shakeriacantrell44
    @shakeriacantrell44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Guys let's all be honest that's not the real eren in chapter 139. That doesn't even look like eren, he doesn’t even sound like eren, it doesn't feel like eren,
    Eren disappeared in chapter 122😂

    • @rickchakraborty2087
      @rickchakraborty2087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then who tf was that guy in 139? 😂

    • @karp652
      @karp652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rickchakraborty2087 His long lost cousin Irin

    • @eh-bd2ee
      @eh-bd2ee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rickchakraborty2087 Aaron yogurt took over

    • @shakeriacantrell44
      @shakeriacantrell44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickchakraborty2087 🤣 that's the cheap version Walmart of Eren.

    • @shakeriacantrell44
      @shakeriacantrell44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eh-bd2ee Ikr🤣

  • @evanpowers6045
    @evanpowers6045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bruh when he compared those scenes 🤦🤦🤦

  • @absolutelyabsolute4671
    @absolutelyabsolute4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    even soul was disappointed, he commented "lol" on his eren jaeger video after the ending got released

  • @Aswar211
    @Aswar211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Look how one chapter can completely destroy such an amazing and huge series. Great video man, you and IDontknowAnything are the only youtubers i know who are telling the truth about this garbage and not lying to yourselves.

  • @ulquiorra1235
    @ulquiorra1235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bro mans said eren was naively doing things and then said he saw that Sasha was going to die in the future🗿that’s the problem with people who are defending the ending they say something and then just completely contradict themselves

  • @zhulimoon46
    @zhulimoon46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ffs I hate people who are like this. have an opinion if you can back it up. foxenanime literally couldn't back any of his points up haha

  • @pxpx3577
    @pxpx3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    leaks are out so in the end erens plan didn't matter it was just to stall the next war, by doing the rumbling he probably killed more people than he saved by the future wars, and paradise still got wiped out. should have listen to zeke XD

    • @mikloshujber1452
      @mikloshujber1452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And I love that Foxen is now doing everything in his power to avoid the leaks, like he's trying to delay the inevitable "Oh shit" moment he'll have. Even as recently as 5 hours ago he's been responding to people asking about his thoughts on the leaks with BS like "Oh I'm not interested in any leaks, I don't trust them. Wait until the official volume comes out". This is extra hilarious because he sure as shit didn't seem to not be interested in leaks while the manga was still actively coming out, he would constantly make videos talking about EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN LEAK that came out monthly. Looks like someone's afraid of being exposed as a fool (even more than he already has been).

    • @pxpx3577
      @pxpx3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikloshujber1452 i know XD i just commented the same comment i did here on his video XD damage control alert

    • @nah2685
      @nah2685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikloshujber1452 he will probably says eren goal was actually just saving his Friends he never cared about titan also u know war will never end wow mindblowing 🤯 isayama genuis

  • @assasinsjeff
    @assasinsjeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hate that phrase. People kept replying to any criticism about the ending with that same dumb phrase

  • @Queen2ThaZ
    @Queen2ThaZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    FoxenAnime what the hell, did he become a anime only ?!?! Did he not read the same manga?
    Then you completely skipped the Eren and Mikasa seen in 138 for another video, holy shit.

  • @beastgaming326
    @beastgaming326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Agree i am pissed off at the same level as you

  • @ashlynwolff
    @ashlynwolff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    13:40 that comparing made me mad too
    Eren's breakdown at first time was understandable - knowing he was going to kill that innocent boy (who also dreamed about freedom)
    Second one is so disgraceful... I would understand if he fell down in tears beside Armin and said "Armin please... I had no another choice... I had to kill them... I had felt myself so bad all those 4 years, sometimes never had a proper sleeping... I know... What I've done can't be justified or excused... But I really am Sorry about all pain I had to bring..."

  • @Leon-vy2wi
    @Leon-vy2wi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Foxen here is an Em shipper

  • @andrewtyme8420
    @andrewtyme8420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So Eren killing thousands in Liberio and later the Rumbling was all an act!??..Foxen Anime is really pandering To the Ending Defenders that he is going through serious mental Gymnastics.

  • @nah2685
    @nah2685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If we need random youtubers to make us understand the main character's motives and character then its a shitty writing. The manga has 139 chapters and every fans have their own idea of who eren was what a joke. Chapter 139 alone shows how bad eren character was written he said he was just going with the flow , then talking about his lelouch plan to saying he dont know why he was doing maybe cuz his dad said to him he is free once and he would have done the 100% anyway like i never read more bs than this even hentai have a better written mcs.

  • @talhawaseem7801
    @talhawaseem7801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was literally planning to make this view even though I have not never made one but couldn;t find the courage and time to do so but you just made my day loved this video. It literally proves my point foxen anime just like isayama and AOT were just genius by chance in the end all three of them and 139 defenders are pathetic

  • @wesley00012
    @wesley00012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why do people try and justify Eren achieving his main goal by getting rid of the titans? Yes, his starting goal was to kill all titans but guess what, a character’s goal can change as the plot progresses and the world is revealed. Do ppl really think that when eren first reaches the sea and states ‘if we kill all are enemies over there, will we finally be free’ do ppl think he’s still talking about fucking titans lol. No ofc not, he’s now talking about the world and marlayans, not titans cause ofc he’s not talking about titans anymore cause they aren’t the enemy so how anyone can say he achieved his goal because titans were removed is ridiculous.

  • @karp652
    @karp652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whenever facts need to be told, I come your your channel, you the goat right now 🙏

  • @Traximmus
    @Traximmus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Been watching foxen for years, turns out he was also a clown like eren himself

  • @sora2541
    @sora2541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow lucky I didn't watch that video on my own. Without you debunking his theories everytime he said something stupid, I might have cringed to death, good analysis man.

  • @hungry_khid1007
    @hungry_khid1007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yea this man really shocked me. Bad take foxen

  • @SQS-kt5uy
    @SQS-kt5uy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The extra pages indicate that the titan power may not have disappeared and the island was bombed into no man's land. lmao so what's the difference between Eren's plan and Zeke's? Eren killed more people than Zeke?

  • @jadibdraws
    @jadibdraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Its one thing if Foxxen just said his opinion as disagreeable as it is. But he had to be condescending towards ppl with legit arguments the whole video was "Half of yall just don't get it." Idk man but I've never seen a story with a decent ending divide a fandom to this extent. When Tokyo ghoul ended there were some ppl who didn't care too much for it but nobody was saying it didn't make sense and half the fandom wasn't arguing with each other on not just the grounds on rather it was good but on the grounds of if it made sense or not. I know Foxxen is one of the bigger SNK youtubers idk if he scared that Isayama might see his video or why he was dick ridding so hard. Even the ppl who thought the ending was okay had some criticism he's the only English Speaking youtuber I've seen with such a positive take on this.

  • @combatvll9025
    @combatvll9025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was watching his last video, and couldn’t finish.. big props for challenging his view