Student Asks TOUGH Question About Christianity (Important Response!)
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- In this video, Frank Turek from @CrossExamined is pressed by a confident young student with what he calls a "paradox" concerning God, Truth and Religion. The conversation that follows is so important to understand. Enjoy!
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Arrogance is ignorance. This is what I run into every time someone opposes my testimony. People who have never read the Bible or studied theology that think their general knowledge is a good explanation for why God doesn't exist. Bro walked in like he was a theologian and had all the answers. I love him. The same way God loved me when I didn't want Him to love me and I overdosed twelve times trying to kill myself. All glory to God. Again you have outdone yourself brother 🙏🏿✌🏿💙💪🏿
Thank you for sharing this! 🙏❤️
People of all kinds please state if you are christian or muslim, atheists, agnostics or any combination of those and then if willing participate in the test. As well, looking for 5 good moral theist questions for atheists/agnostics.
#1 You see a child drowning in a shallow pool and notice a person just watching that is able to save the child with no risk to themselves but is not, is that persons non action moral?
#2 If you go to save the child, the man tells you to stop as he was told it was for the greater good, but he does not know what that is, do you continue to save the child?
#3 Is it an act of justice to punish innocent people for the crimes of others?
#4 If you were able to stop it and knew a person was about to grape a child would you stop it?
#5 Would you consider a parent who put their kids in a room with a poison fruit and told the kids not to eat it but then also put the best con artist in the room with the children knowing the con artist will get the kids to eat the fruit and the parent does nothing to stop it a good parent?
People who witness become educated in opposing views. Being knowledgeable about views that oppose christianity strengthen my faith not weaken it. The nicks of the world just dive into one side or element. In a godless view you have to supply answers.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom of course brother 🙏🏿✌🏿💙💪🏿
@@dlsimmonsjr1 >>People who witness become educated in opposing views. Being knowledgeable about views that oppose christianity strengthen my faith not weaken it. The nicks of the world just dive into one side or element. In a godless view you have to supply answers.""
Any view should have to provide answers. Can i ask if you can see my comment just above yours with 5 questions in it?
He didn’t even attend the presentation. He heard there was a Christian event being held which activated his atheism and he rushed over. Wild.
"Activated his atheism", Steve for the win.
I just summon the atheism when I hear a Christian TH-cam channel is posting. Close my eyes in dark, silent room and just summon it. That's how it works.
Lol😂 It activates their atheism so they must drop absolutely everything they are doing to go debate against the existence of someone that they don't even believe exists.
Hearing your god probably doesn't exist, activates your Christian Narcissism.
@@kos-mos1127 Like summoning demons, huh? Sad and tragic.
*"God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble." - James 4:6*
What's wrong with proud I'm a proud father and grandad W T F are you talking about being a good person is got nothing to with God and being a good human being is what it's about ya idiot
FACTS. WOW that guy was very disrespectful about his Atheistic views. I'm glad brother Frank Turek addresses Atheism and beliefs of other religions and worldviews on Cross Examined ministry. I was an atheist and agnostic from 17-19 years old until I discovered evidence of God's Existence and Christianity myself. Creation requires a Creator we human beings would call God. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@@justingary5322 May the Lord Jesus continue to empower you with the dynamite power of God the Holy Spirit to the glory of God the Father, my brother in Jesus.🔥
I love Frank Turek! “I read that book.” He has done his homework. Nick isn’t even willing to read Frank’s book. That tells us a lot right there.
He’s terrified that Frank is correct.
It’s so sad because he has no need to fear….. well in his current state yes…. But if he knew the peace that comes from faith in Jesus as opposed to faith in ( ??? ) he would not be scared. The invested interest in disproving faith is something I always find so mystifying
The biggest thing this student can learn from watching his own performance at the mic is how to listen. Such pride in his own intelligence! I don't think Turek completed more than 2 sentences in the 16 minutes. “Ego is the worst Master. Humility, the best teacher.”
― Andrew Pacholyk, Barefoot ~ A Surfer's View of the Universe
Turek does not believe that objective listening exists. He is an atheist when it comes to paying attention
I have zero respect for people who ask a question then repeatedly cut you off when you try to answer.
They ask a question and there is only one acceptable answer to them and that is that you just agree with them. Once they sense there is a different point of view or an objection to the premise of their question they cut you off.
This shows a weak mind that is afraid to be exposed to other points of view.
Yes he isn't asking the question because he wants an answer, he is just starting an argument trying to prove some point that he isn't even sure of himself in all reality.
so a Narcissist
Yeah. It's called being disingenuous. It's not asking in good faith. Oftentimes, it's nothing more than a repeated attempt to to make the person look foolish, rather than an honest inquiry into Truth or even to know what another actually believes.
It's intellectually dishonest.
Classic behavior of narcissists as well.
Afraid no, weak yes
The man asking questions didn’t seem to be searching for the truth, he seemed like he was trying to ask questions to make the speaker doubt his faith. Love the speaker’s patience and calmness
That's exactly right. They think they got the "silver bullet" that will cause any rationally minded person to reject Christianity "because it's stupid".
Atheists have no clue how utterly brainwashed they are.
But the speaker didn't answer his question...
False. The student was challenging his faith. Imagine claiming something is real and you can't prove it. None of us knows the actual truth about what's out there but having thousands of religions and thousands of gods there's an issue here. If one of these is the truth then there would be ONE religion and ONE god. You do the math from now
To challenge his faith, the man asking questions should have listened to what the speaker was saying, and he should’ve been there from the beginning to be able to have a debate or to be able to share different perspectives. That man came during the q&a with just the intention of putting his perspective, he didn’t come prepared nor with the intention of listening and sharing. It was a one way road of him saying that God doesn’t exist.
@@kkp5556 what was he supposed to listen? "God is real" "Jesus is real and died for our sins" "Jesus loves you" we've heard ALL of that already and the guy knew it. There's nothing more to talk about. If you can't prove something your so sure exists then just say that. Don't try and tell people that God doesn't exist in this universe. That just creates a bunch of "what if's" and still not proving it. If somebody challenges you, you have to be ready. If you don't have proof then you can't win a debate. Religion always takes the L because of lack of evidence
People that never humble themselves will never find the truth, and only humble people can accept the grace of God.
Spot on.
Imagine pulling up late, not even seeing the presentation, and then questioning the validity of the presentation WITHOUT EVEN SEEING THE CRITICAL POINTS!!! That’s insane to me
That’s arrogance.
🤣🤣🤣...I know, RIGHT!
That's atheism, unfortunately.
it's like he just heard the Leprechaun thing on TikTok or something and couldn't wait to parrot 😆
someone came at me with the exact same echoes in comments somewhere else 😂
the fact that they use something as ridiculous as a Leprechaun for comparison just shows their animosity towards Gods, because when you compare the gravity of the claims they are nowhere near each other 🤦♂️
last I checked nobody ever claimed Leprechaun's created everything, or gave their life for us, or that there's any possible way we should be accountable to them.
it's as if the people who ask it this way think they're belittling God but it only shows how badly they misunderstand the question.
Key atheism. "Showing up late" to disprove God's existence when God's existence predates and exceeds the realm of atheism.
He doesn't even know the correct use of the word paradox. He just feels superior for using it.
Yes that was not an example of a paradox
Right like a paradox would be me being born only to grow up go back in time to create myself.
This guy just thinks two color blind people looking at a tree one says purple the other says blue and then claiming either one of them is right and the other wrong. The truth how ever could be as simple as both are right or both are wrong and the tree is green.
I think he means the...God created humans...when really we created God.
@ThyHoneyNut God did create everything we know. Hate to burst your bubble buddy
@brandonwhitehead2856 lol I agree with you man. I was trying to clarify what the original commentator meant.
Watching from Uganda 🇺🇬 ( East Africa).
God bless you.
Me too! 🇺🇬 Love Love Frank Turek
I'm coming into the Catholic Church soon, thank you for your work I love this! Channels like yours have played a huge role in my conversion this past year - I wish I could go up to each of you apologists and give you all a big hug. God bless you all :)
i'm recently coming back to the catholic faith my grandfather would be very proud.
The catholic church shifts focus away from Christ and puts it on Mary. It's doctrines are unbiblical. You'd do well to steer clear. You can fellowship with Christians in your community without ensnaring yourself in falseunbiblical doctrines.
I would recommend trying nondenominational church service before committing to catholicism, just saying. Sola scriptura.
@@kathleengraham3577 Too late 😋
And if it’s sola scriptura wouldn’t yall just buy a bible and stay at home
As soon as frank said "i already read it" arrogance was gone. Humbled immediately 😂😂
Yet Frank shows shocking disingenuous ignorance.
@@JP-je6jg how?
@@santiagorivas1950 how does he answer the question? He doesn't.
He twists and turns and attempts to get the conversation on to a level where he can say something that sounds vaguely intelligent. His 4 tests for god are just...idiotic in the extreme...I mean 'can miracles happen, the greatest miracle already has'...he, without evidence, is stating his opinion as fact.
Il ask you, assuming (perhaps incorrectly) you are a Christian or at least a theist...how do you know you are right? How do you know you just so happened to have picked the right version of the right god?
@JP-je6jg correct i am a Christian. I never said I WAS right lol but, if it is true I won eternity. If not, then you won am argument. (That's the answer to your first question.) And secondly, in bible, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15: 14. "And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith." If jesus didn't really die and rise from the dead then we live in vain and everything we do is for naught. There's no reason to go to church or ask for forgiveness. It's the same in our brains. No one dies for a lie. Ppl could die for a lie they were made to belive is true but not a truth that is a lie. Got me??? (Saying it in a friendly tone.)
@@santiagorivas1950
That word, eternity...that's an awfully long time...what do we do in heaven?...ok what do people who go to heaven do? (No way I'd be going) ...is one lifetime worth an eternity of either punishment or reward?
I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree. Why on earth would our lives count for less without god? I can still love and fear and laugh and hope as much as any theist. I still have dreams and aspirations. I can still be a good person and aim to make the world a better place. God doesn't have a monopoly on that, heck, id say the world can be moral in spite of religion.
Why does Jesus having died for us make our lives worth more?
I agree people wouldn't die for a lie...but as you point out, people will die for what they believe to be true, whether it is or not. Look at Heaven's Gate...or even any Islamist terrorist. They must believe in their cause, but presumably you, as a Christian, must disagree with them and think it a lie.
Nothings more annoying than somebody that asks questions but wont give an oppertunity to hear answers.
Why so he can lie?
@@kos-mos1127 well technically if he wanted to point out that he was lying, he would have to actually hear the full answer in order to refute it. Refutation in this case doesn't exist though. He missed the majority of the presentation and then fired off one atheistic talking point after another without allowing a chance for an adequate back and forth. Even if he had a legitimate point, Dr. Turek was not given the opportunity to fully answer. That's not how it works on either side.
@@kos-mos1127it’s rude to interrupt someone answering a question that has been posed to them. It shows a lack of morales and etiquette, furthermore, it’s disingenuous. Also how can determine if it’s a lie or not, he wasn’t listening to the answer.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@TheDominic1011 He was dodging the question.
Truly enjoyed the argument as well as your commentary.
There aren’t many times when a message rings so true that my automatic response is ‘Amen, preaching to the choir’, when I’m on TH-cam watching Reactors yet you got one from me today.
I’m glad the algorithm put you in my suggestion list. LCS
I just want to say thank you for the commentary, and thank you for allowing time for the video to play.
When Dr. Turek says things like “hold on nick hold on” I find it oddly respectful, because there’s a quote that says “never stop your enemy from making a mistake”, which is Machiavellian in nature. When Dr. Turek says to hold on, he’s trying to prevent the person from making a fool of themselves and being overly emotional and incoherent. He helps them to clarify their point, so as to help them facilitate an air of dignity. Dr. Turek doesn’t want to embarrass people or “gotcha” them. He truly believes what he is saying and is being as intellectually honest as I can tell. He always shows respect regardless of if a person’s mind has been changed, and doesn’t want the audience laughing at disagreers. True maturity and humility.
He was telling to hold on because he was just monologuing .
That's a very wise and insightful comment. Congrats and thank you 🙏🏻
He stopped him because this arrogant young man isn't his enemy.
@@TheEternalHyperboreanis that your claim of truth?
He also stops them because he has heard the argument a hundred times already, and wants them to get to the point so that the conversation can really begin.
Nick: *Shows up 70 minutes into a 75 minute presentation explaining his entire belief system*
Also nick: i demand you explain and defend your belief system in its entirety while i interrupt, talk over you, and assert my opinions as widely known facts
That last statement "assert opinions as widely know facts" is pretty much every athiest and far Lefty nut you see on the internet.
Painfully obvious Nick isn't interested in the truth or an honest conversation. Doesn't want to hear what Dr. Turek presented, only might kinda sorta maybe read his book but only Dr. Turek re-reads Dawkins lol. Pray for patience with these people
Bravo assertion !
@@Mr_FairdaleNick read Dawkins, and voila! An expert who parrots Dawkins.
I had a back and forth with a guy who had only read Bart Ehrman, and he purported to be an expert on all things biblical, though it became painfully obvious that he knew very little. Typical modern “skeptic” of other peoples’ beliefs, but never one’s own.
They should be given time to ask one question at a time Once the question is finished, Stop them until you finished your answers. Otherwise they want to be overwise!
Brilliant presentation, thank you so much for putting this together.
I Pray many who need this information will see this very post.
*_God Bless_*
Wow! 1st time watching your show. I really enjoyed that; top notch. Thank you. I subscribed immediately. God be with us and we enter 2024. I have a feeling we're gonna need it.
dude, your line at the end is great. "only 1 of 2 people can pay for our crimes, either us or Jesus"
Somebody else being judged and punished for something you did wrong is fundamentally immoral.
Would it not be better to be sin free and face your own darkness?
@nitsujism God gives us grace b/c we are human. Our flesh was/is tempted so he died for our sins so that we may saved from them. If you notice in the Bible satan/ other fallen entities don't get this same grace b/c they were not tempted and are not of flesh.
remember if you dont sin, then jesus died for nothing lol
@@deontelipscomb5417 None of that makes any sense at all. Worse, it's immoral for somebody else to be punished for something you did wrong. It's simply unjust, barbaric, immoral. We wouldn't accept it in any system of court justice.
Let's say I committed a crime and was found guilty in court and then sentenced to torture and death. Then let's say one of my parents stepped forward and said they'll take the punishment so that I don't have to. Is that justice? What does it say about the entity inflicting the punishment that it can vindictuvely torture and kill somebody who did not commit the crime? That it doesn't care as long as somebody gets tortured and killed?
Even worse, let's say that it's the judge who set this law that decides to take the punishment on my behalf. Not only is that barbaric, unjust, vengeful and immoral, it's literally sadistic and insane.
I can't believe he asked this question without being at the presentation. Actually, I can believe it.
Maybe just maybe God sent him there. He probably left and something was planted…
@@xyriusd832 good outlook.
@@xyriusd832 yeah and Frank demonstrated how one can handle the adversarial (which is always gonna be there somehow) without getting own feathers ruffled. Being a peacemaker is a high calling 😉
HA!
every time, when so called 'intellectuals' ask about the right belief, there is a quote from NT, when Jesus said: in my fathers house are many flats. That means, all people with a good heart who try to be honest, helping and comforting others, living a life pleased to God would come into the fathers house once.
"ill give you the book called "THE GOD DELUSION""
"Frank says, "IVE ALREADY READ IT!!"
I laughed so hard on that and...like seriously mic drop.
Honestly to think an apologist wouldn’t at least be aware of that book and already have a response is so naive.
I ran into your channel recently and have really enjoyed the content. It’s helped me gain better understanding of some things I was struggling with.
I wish all churches would open up their doors at least once a month to an open question and answers session like this. So people can air their views and gain understanding. I think that would break down the barriers between believers and non believers...
Do you actually believe that false teachers want to be questioned! Those false teachers that will allow you to question them already know that the person they are talking to have limited bible knowledge and will be easily duped!
@@mikejordan6290so are you an atheist
I think that would be a horrible idea. Ever see those riots a couple years ago? Same maniacs destroying stores will be “the peaceful people just seekianswers”. Boom. Fights break out.
Don’t fool yourself. Bad company corrupts good character.
Unfortunately, many churches these days...(at least in Western societies), couldn't debate this well for Christ. Markedly mega-churches who'd much rather hang an LBGTQ flag out front to "attract" followers rather than preach salvation and the grave dangers of sin.
Go to Sunday school for Bible study.
I’ve seen this clip so many times, and yet when Turek says “I’ve already read it” gets me every time. Such a flex.
Fr that was so cold
Fr
And the "questioner" never asked what book he should read in exchange.
There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.
Awesome my brother great message at the end. This was a way God spoke to me about always having a word ready. I pray your staying enthusiastic about your channel because it is helping so many people.
Dave from Canada
Thank you so much for this. Video you shared was good, also loved the wrap up and no worries if you feel like it was preaching. God bless
Poor Nick dropped the “God Delusion” thinking Frank doesn’t read opposing views… sweet Nick….
Yes, let’s pray for him today, in Jesus name, that His heart would be softened and that God would do whatever it takes for Him to come to know the Joy of the LORD 🙏❤️!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdomamen! 👍🏻❤️🥃🇺🇸
It was a failed gotcha moment for sure.
Yes, he could have done far better that way.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom The last person that used Jesus name on me backed off real quick.
Lol I liked the part when he said he hasn’t read his book and wasn’t even present for the presentation/seminar, and then proceeded to disagree with him while not even understanding his position.
It’s impossible to understand your own opposition if you do not even understand what it is that you oppose. In this particular case, the young man not only doesn’t understand, he hasn’t even heard what he has to say. Amazing!
He was coming into this saying "What proof do you have that you are right and others are wrong when they can point to just as many proofs as you for why they are right?" So the proofs this person gave at the beginning are just as valid as if a Muslim was up there giving proof about Allah. I very much doubt the speaker said why everyone else's proofs were wrong while his was right.
For the math problem he quickly blew through it and if everyone at the table came forward with evidence to show that their answer was correct then he wants to know why that person's claim is more valid than everyone else's. A better example would be for this math problem "4x = y" what is x and y? He wants to know why this person is the right one when everyone else can come up with their own answer to show they are right.
When I first was saved I was wanting to share my new faith with family friends and work colleagues The heart breaking part was not that most did not believe but rather that even if I could prove that Christianity is true some people would still reject Christ Thank god that is not true of everyone who does not believe .!!!
@davidmccarroll8274 if Allah appeared and was exactly as the Muslims believed would you reject him? If a Muslim could prove their belief as being the 100% truth would you convert?
@@PhuckEwerself You will have to re think your question and ask it in a way that is in line with Islam WHY The Muslims believe that God is above us in a way that we are unworthy to meet him in this life and reject the idea that we can have a relationship with god in the way Christians do and therefore they would reject the idea that Allah would approach anyone in this life in this way !!!.As I have already had a relationship with the living God I have to reject the above Islamic attitude !!!
@davidmccarroll8274 So then you would still reject that belief if it was shown and proven to be 100% true. You are bad mouthing others for not following your faith if yours was 100% proven yet you wouldn't believe if someone else's was 100% proven.
Hey Boss, I just discovered your channel a couple of days ago. I know this is an older video but I wanted to give you a POB (Pat On the Back) and say keep up the good work.
Am a hindu, been to a Catholic School, it was a great experience, got to know about other faiths and we used to celebrate Christmas and diwali alike in school with all the fathers and sisters and teachers , honestly I never felt any difference between between faiths I love my krishana and I loved visiting my school church too, my friends and I still visit our school on Christmas.
If your questioning someone at least listen to what the other have to say and not interrupt in between
I didn't find Nick's question too tough at all. It's a pretty popular one among atheists. When Nick asked his question, the first thing I would've said was, "Why are you asking?" This gets them to look inward and think or at least put them on notice that I've already put it through a thought process. I've heard a LOT of Christians that don't. I can't tell you how many times I've listened to atheist radio talk show hosts like Tom Leykis or Ray Taliaferro on KGO and their ilk talking to Christians who go to battle "in their underwear." When someone asks me a question, I don't just jump to the answer. Sometimes I don't answer at all because in asking why they're asking their question, I'm sussing out their REAL reason for asking, which isn't an actual answer, but an attempt to stump me or whoever they're talking to, in which case, they don't deserve an answer because they really don't care...they're just trying to trip YOU up.
That's what Jesus was referring to when he said don't cast your Pearls Before Swine cuz they were just trample all over it
Yes, if someone asks me those questions I try to ask them how they have been personally hurt by religion.
Agree in finding their motivation of questions first
We cannot win over the debate. Our faith is in power not in words
EXACT PROPHECY that comes to pass with precision. Thats how. NO OTHER BOOKS DO THAT. DONE!!!!!!!
Everybody has all the answers at their fingertips via the internet. Anybody that actually cares would have looked into it already. 99% of the time they ask questions as an attack, not because they actually want to know.
The student is there to give a monologue and not ask a question and he won't actually listen, and neither wants an answer.
Yep!! Pure arrogance. He doesn't even listened and he blocks him and keep arguing . He never get to the main point.
@@cristineclingman8588 He's the typical Internet Atheist who just wants to win a debate. Most Atheists just don't care about supernatural anything and just live their lives not thinking about anything spiritual.
Praise God ✝️✝️
Thank-you Jesus!!
It’s Very Nice that we do not have Blind Faith in Jesus Christ, My Lord and Savior. Thank-you Jesus!
not 'heavy' or 'preachy', it seemed sincere and heartfelt. the core of the human heart is the epicentre, indeed.
I was raised in a loving atheistic family and only last year have my eyes been opened to the truth of the Word (Aleluia!). Been watching everything all you post, and I thank you (and all of your subscribers, me included), for the beautiful content. I think this kind of approaches are very helpful, not that my faith will be increased by it, but it's definitely inspiring to hear brighter and wiser people than me, explaining all the different facets of God's truth.
I think all the proofs and evidences for the claim have been layed down before us during His-Story, there's only a small (giant) leap of faith required to feel how blessed we are. That's up to each soul individually, and is beyond logic or explanation. That's probably the reason why it feels so miraculous what happened to me, and to all of you probably too.
It brought a new meaning to the expression "seek and you shall find..."
Well... I've found you bro!
Yah Bless
🙏🏻✨
You might have had a stroke and woke up twenty-five IQ points down.
Be blessed my loved bro!
Such an amazing comment. Thank you 🙏 ❤️
What was it that convinced you?
So did you stumble upon this or another channel and become curious? Did you just decide to look into Christianity? Curious about what got you going in this direction. God Bless you!
Atheists like this guy always try to sound smarter than the person they are trying to debate. Bro contradicted himself multiple times and I hope he realized this or realizes it at some point in time. Turek firing on all cylinders once again. Great video.
what do you mean sound smart? bro can you even smart
The funniest part is that you often don't need to be smarter than a theist to win a debate about religion, you just need to be less delusional.
@@isabellalarkin8859Yet, you probably believe the big bang which means nothing became something. Sounds like a religion called Atheism.
@@isabellalarkin8859 The world, especially the western world runs on delusion.
AMEN🙏🏾 Nick's heart is hardened...and he will be eternally punished if he continues. Atheists say, "There is NO God...but, boy do we HATE Him." He is a sad person and, again, if he doesn't accept CHRIST, in HELL he will lift up his eyes🙏🏾
Lovingly I say to you brother, never apologize for being preachy, the gospel is the power of God unto salvation and justifies and defends itself.
Praise The Lord for your work, and may He use to save souls
I love the confidence the gentleman has in asking his question. It takes a lot of courage to ask a question in a room like this. The answer he gets is awesome!
Don't ever feel bad for being " preachy". The preaching you did was beautiful and everyone needs to hear this.
Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
A GIGANTIC - AMEN! 😊
I was thinking the exact same thing...Unfortunately, in this country, there seems to be somewhat of a "Stigma" when sharing, when we speak the fundamental truths of the Gospel. " He Loves us, He died for us, He wants to give us the free gift of eternal Life through Himself. It was touched on briefly when referring to Christianity's baggage. Jesus is so AMAZING! He died for EVERYONE as though we were the ONLY one!
@shane2973 I love that! "He died for us as if we were the ONLY one."
The Lord is beyond amazing! I was thinking just yesterday (as it is Thanksgiving coming soon, things to be thankful for). How amazing his love is ! It's so pure with no hidden agendas. It's love without " if you do these certain things, then I will love you. " . It's just pure love! I'm so thankful he is who he is! ...its so sad how people of the world can't(or won't)see Jesus for who he is. We were condemned to hell, but he loved us enough to die a brutal death, so we no longer have to go to hell if we are willing to come to a point in our life where we will repent of our sins we have done against him and believe on Jesus Christ! His salvation is free to us, but it costs Jesus Christ everything! Now that is Love!
@@charisasmith8554 Christ's salvation is to His people. Nobody can resist the call of God. But only some are called not all. That's why God is sovereign. Only He decides.
@@laocheebye no, God calls to all, that is why we are to witness. He wants to give everyone a chance to accept him as Saviour. Many will refuse his gift of eternal life, but he wants them to accept him as their Saviour, but ultimately its up to each individual.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
I admire the teacher’s patience and eloquence even when faced with arrogance, blatant rudeness and a copious amount of self-reighteousness. Lord, help us. Continue to bless this beautiful hearted teacher. “If anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet”
Exactly and AMEN AND AMEN ✝️
Bravo! Exceptionally (and well) said! 👏🏽👏🏻👏🏿
Amen. I noted vocabulary from your comment as i am non english speaker.
I’ve have to asked for forgive and learn and new level of patience twice now watching him lol. Thank You Jesus
Were we watching the same video? 😂 He deflected the question
The guy barged in on a mission. Fully arrogant, fully confident. He absolutely had to have his brilliance heard because he read Dawkins.
It's called PRIDE!
Not too heavy and not too preachy for me. Thank you for this message. God bless you!
Imagine coming into a presentation late to aska question that was covered in the presentation, and then thinking that Dawkins is some kind of esoteric text that Frank isn't aware of.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
We don't have to imagine, it happened. Blessings
The time of his arrival has no impact on the truth of his rhetoric. Turek got his ass kicked by an armature from his audience.
@@propagandakiller632 The time of his arrival should make him give pause. You can't make an educated rebuttal without hearing the presentation.
@@propagandakiller632 You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
I love your ending comments. It always strikes me that the gospel is so simple a child can understand it and yet so deep that brilliant scholars and theologians have been studying/debating it forever.
If the gospel were that simple, there wouldn’t be so many sects and lifelong theologians that disagree with each other on it.
@@Tinesthia I think it interesting that I can agree with Nick yet if I said the same thing as Nick to Nick, he would likely not agree with me when he learned my thoughts of what he was saying. Our Creator and his son love all humanity past present and future, it's many of his other sons and daughters that don't yet.
And yet, here you are having NOT read the Gospels, and if you did, you didn't understand it. Because THIS is exactly what Jesus told us NOT to do. He told us to believe what you want, be a good person, and not to concern yourself with what anyone else believes. Care ONLY that others are good people too, by whatever means to come to wanting or being a good person. He told us NOT to proclaim our faith in public or try to prove our faith because that's what hypocrites do. He told us there was NO NEED to prove God's existence. And here you are, not understanding or not ever knowing, or completely ignoring what He said. He was RIGHT.
@@amylathrop8329 Where does it say to believe what you want?
Where also does it say not to profess your faith to non believers?
“And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.””
Matthew 28:18-20 ESV
“So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.”
Matthew 10:32-33.ESV
We cannot be good, only God is good: “And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.”
Mark 10:18 ESV
We must not be quarrelsome, but we must spread the Gospels, and the unbelievers are looking for God, looking for something to fill the God size hole, which are easier to reach than those who heard the Gospel and chose to walk away. Maybe you can clarify what you mean?
@@amylathrop8329
what you're saying is the exact opposite of what the scriptures say. The whole point of being a disciple of Christ is to be a witness for our faith and to share it so that others will believe and be saved. He did not tell us to believe what we want!
"But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:8
"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," Matthew 28:19
"And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation." Mark 16:15
"For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power." 1 Cor 1:17
"And most of the brothers, having become confident in the Lord by my imprisonment, are much more bold to speak the word without fear." Phil 1:14
"For if I preach the gospel, that gives me no ground for boasting. For necessity is laid upon me. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" 1 Cor 9:16
"How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?" Rom 10:14
"And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” Rom 10:15
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
"And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Acts 16:31
"Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” John 6:29
"For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep." 1 Thess 4:14
"and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” Mark
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16
Your commentary was beautiful! Thank you for this!
Frank's book I Don't Have Enough Faith to be An Atheist is a really good resource that goes over all the evidence pointing toward God. Good wrap-up at the end of this video with the scripture from Revelation. Great job.
He's not only missing the point of his own question and how it should be answered, he's not giving full opportunity for Frank to answer him completely and that never amounts to much. He doesn't present as someone genuinely interested in truth because if that were so, then he would hear out, completely,each response to each question without interrupting and muddying the exchange.
It takes a lot of patience to have dialogues like this.
For sure. It's so tempting after hearing theists blurt out nonsense to call them delusional and move on with your day, but to continuously listen to the broken logic and try to counter it is commendable. This is likely why most yt atheists who make commentary on religion are some of the kindest, most patient people on the entire platform.
@@isabellalarkin8859 Isabella, do not leave where you'll be after your time on this earth in question. If you want to see people who have already pulled back the curtain look up John Ramirez's testimony.
At What point point does the Verse....do not cast your pearls before the swine come into the discussion.....because God has given it for EVERY person born to know that there is a God....no matter how much people deny it. I wouldn't have time for this.
That was really good dude 👌, thanks. A little heavy, a little preachy, it was really good. It seems like you have been on missions and stuff, you definitely don't lack much understanding or faith. That is really encouraging, brother!
Beautiful presentation of the gospel at the end. Thank you. You’ve won my subscription!
These kids believe they are a lot smarter than they really are. Good on them to have the confidence to challenge someone with a far far greater and superior level of knowledge than theirs on a subject that they obviously have far less knowledge about than Turek. I hope they see and accept when they are humbled and take that lesson with them. These kids are our future and I love seeing their confidence and blossoming intellect at work in these debates.
You seem to be contradicting yourself
Usually wrong conclusions are made to lack of information. In Nick's case he is in denial as per James Warner Wallace. Grace
LOL turek is a joke
All of Turek's verbal gymnastics couldn't save him from logic and facts,
@@DiggitySlice in what way my friend?
Imagine being a movie reviewer and walking in to interview Tom Cruise about his new Top Gun movie but you haven’t even watched it. You’re critical about it but you haven’t even watched it. That’s what Nick did right here and it shows his lack of character and disrespect for others. Nick should have had the decency to listen to Frank’s lecture and then ask questions. These types of people are not interested in the truth because they don’t want to be accountable for their own sins. If they were interested in the truth, they would seek it out like Frank and so many other former atheists have done. If Nick was interested in finding the truth, he would have listened to Frank’s lecture before asking questions.
Good point, and here’s some evidence: You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
I agree with you. How Nick has the nerve to get up and waste Frank’s time and also the time of members of the audience who have sat through the lecture and know what has been discussed, I don’t know. Nick worships his own ego by the looks of it.
It does not matter how much you know about god if god does not excist.then you know less then tje guy that knew he didnt exist.duh
@@GhostWriter-wt8pb PAY ATTENTION; I just proved 4 different ways That God is real, and he wrote the Bible, so what you said was a guess! a loving God Has To show evidence and he has!
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@louiseng7272 here’s the evidence the guy is looking for;
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
Great video! BTW, where do you buy your caps? They're awesome.
Your comments at the end made me sob with joy and truth and gratitude for my Savior!
This guy should just say what he wants to say. People like him want to sound so educated and liberal and open minded when what he’s really asking is “why don’t you stop believing in your religion so that I can feel better about other religions?” There is a reason this guy talks about Christianity the way he does, he wouldn’t question hindi, Islam, buddhism to same way. One of Gods greatest characteristics is that he doesn’t force himself on anyone.
God is a fairytale.
Actually he was comparing all them stating that they are all the same depending on who u ask. Take yourself and your feelings out of the equation and compare all religions. Just think their religion is special because they think they feel it in their heart. All he is saying is everyone has just as much conviction about their religion as the others and all arguments for each religion can apply to the other one.
Travis, that's precisely what Turek tries to do in his presentations. I'm not sure who it is Nick thinks is saying that the believers in each religion don't believe in their religion. Pointing out that they do is a tautology but it says nothing whatsoever about the truth or falsehood of Christianity. That remains to be decided on other grounds, which were covered during the presentation Nick missed.
@@chrisclark7170Prove that GOD is a fairytale. Where's your evidence to back up your statement?
@@chrisclark7170 It was almost like a fairytale when he delivered me from the satanic cult I was a member of. His deliverance and work in y life was greater than I can explain. Jesus is my LORD and SAVIOUR, not because of what I did, but because of whet HE did. Jesus loves you Chris.
"A little heavy, a little preachy". Not at all. Amen brother. Your closing statements in this video were my favorite part of this video. More of that please.
Okay, well thank you! 🙏❤️
God bless you! Do you have your documentary in Spanish?
I'm glad that kid cleared it up by saying metaphorical table because I was about ready to see if there was a TH-cam video of that meeting.
This guy walks in late, having missed 90% of the presentation, and proceeds to heckle the teacher. He's lucky that anyone took him seriously. If it hadn't been an important question, most teachers would have blown him off. "Come see me after class. Other students actually came to listen. I'll see you later."
He's lucky the class didn't sit him down
Missionary kid here, I just wanted to say that if you live in America you should not take the “Christian Environment” of America for granted. While cultural Christianity can be harmful, Christianity in America is a blessing that many American Christians don't fully understand. I'm not usually one to say “Check your privilege,” but you really should.
As someone who lives in a country with cultures that have no Christian foundation, I can attest to this.
A western atheist would be more accurately described as an heretical christian.
I'm in America, and your statement is true. Having said that, we have predominately lost Christian culture in this country and are living on the fumes of our Judeo/Christian heritage. Still, we see many blessings because of the heritage in spite of America's increasing depravity and rejection of God.
@@wandertreeyes, so true. I totally agree, I guess I should've been more clear in my original post.
I don't know 10 churches in my entire country whose doctrinal statements I could sign, whereas I know so many churches in America whose doctrinal statement I could sign. America has a lot of great churches and no American Christian should take that for granted.
Where are you from? If you dont mind. The middle east?
Yes, thank you. I will check my privilege. Yes, GOD BLESS! I WON'T take my blessings for granted.😇🤩🙏🏻
Good message and no not preachy. New to your channel, I'm glad I found you.
Cory brings up a very valid point, IMO. People who have never read the Bible or studiedtheology, think their general knowledge is a good explanation for why God does not exist. And young Nick, so passionate about arguing the non existence of God that he seemingly fails to consider the other side of the argument.
For myself, this was an education. I appreciate you. This is how we have conversation when speaking to NonB'rs.
What would be a wise use of certain people's time would be a concentrated effort a congress or Olympics of sorts where we diagram these differences of opinion, theology, philosophy, etc. Eventually, declaring a best argument which shows how each path gets where it is currently - completely removing FEELINGS or at least properly documenting sources for arguments or scientific claims/studies keeping in mind a need to maintain and update these things. I think this would be a fascinating project.
I am from South Africa , and regarding with what you said about hearing the Gospel for the first time vs the baggage , i am shocked seeing on youtube mostly American people not believing in God and the Godlessness in America and Europe , but also i have seen great people in America beliving in God like people on your channel , comparing South Africa to America and Europe and the rest of the world i am glad that we are very conservative and do not share the rest of the world's Godlessnes, it is absolutely shocking, but then again it all depends on one's point of view , keep up the good fight
The kid is also hiding behind Burden of Proof and thinking that believers are the only ones with the burden.
They are the ones making a claim something exists!
God does not have to prove himself. The proof is in fact out there but in truth we are to have faith. Carry on not believing and soon you will be woke up in a giant way
@mirandahotspring4019 that isn't true at all. Use your head. Athiests assert there is no creator. Believers assert there is.
That is COMPLETELY dishonest to think that athiests don't have a truth claim.
You are hiding behind this idea that the natural world is the baseline and you don't have to prove anything. Basic philosophy proves that is nonsense.
@@mikepotter6426 Does that apply to the remote uncontacted Amazonian tribes that have never heard of your god, the billion or so Hindu who have their own gods, and all the others who have different beliefs? How arrogant you have to be to believe that!
@mirandahotspring4019 you mean *God, when you say god you're not talking about our God but a man made idol. Jesus can reach anyone in many many ways, if they are uncontacted then how would anyone know what they believe? You surely couldn't as you have not contacted them.
This was great, the best part were your thoughts at the end. I struggle with explaining to non believers and this will help me thank you
Just found your channel brother...subbed. Good works
“I already read it” is my favorite part so far. 😂
Yet he remains oddly ignorant. Wilfully so I imagine
@@JP-je6jg woefully
@@TheKingwalker22 yes it is sadly woeful
A story I love that illustrates the error Nick makes is the story of the blind men that encounter the elephant - each makes different claims - ‘long and skinny like the tail’, ‘broad and rough like the side’, ‘thick like a tree (trunk)’. This is often used to say the blind men are all wrong (like Nick is claiming about religions). The error is the storyteller is claiming to see the whole elephant but we are all equally ‘blind’.
A theist in your example would have no hand on the elephant at all, because while the blind people are fumbling about trying to discover the truth they are all actually dealing in *evidence*, and a theist is only dealing in *faith*.
Completely different.
@@adamsalazar8214 Faith is not inherently without evidence and everyone must deal in faith to a degree because absolutely nothing is certain -- entropy exists.
My favorite video you've done so far. Not because of the question but because you added context into the conversation from a 3rd party. Added a bit of color to this
Well done sir! Keep up the good work brother! Great video
Nick: I'll give you The God Delusion.
Frank: I already read it. 😂😂😂
And he is still delusional
@@lisaann5895 yeah a lot less delusional to believe that nothing created everything 😂
I wish Nick listened. He's asking all these questions but he doesn't seem to be interested in having a conversation. A virtue in life is listening. Not always easy to do when we're impatient. I've learnt I can be very impatient. Patience takes respect and humilty.
I remember Dr Gene Scott giving a lecture where he pointed out that "everyone" had faith. The dividing line was the object. GOD, or the absence or the unknowable. That guy was clearly only interested in being right.
Cani I find these vids where there is no I interpretation of someone explaining what's already being explained? All of Frank's videos have people using it to develop a platform on what's already being explained in the video. Any links or the original page greatly appreciated
Just recently found this channel - thankful for your faithfulness in spreading the word ! Great work, brother 🙏
Thank you.
Your ministry is important.
My daughter was raised in Christianity and has now decided she is an atheist.
Im sorry! I pray that she would come to her senses & come home to God ❤️
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Your prayers are appreciated ❤️
Well what gospel do you believe
Praying for you and your daughter❤
Seeds planted. You did your job
My favorite part is when Nick brought up the book the "God Delusion", but Frank says, " I've already read it!"
where could i find this whole presentation please ?
I remember this moment as clear as day. I was and still am an active duty soldier and all I wanted to do was sit down and listen to Dr.Frank Turek. When this gentlemen walked up (me left shoulder, it took every ounce of the Holy Spirit for me not to lose it. Just listening to the way he spoke and the disrespect had me up the hills. Again, with military as my background, respect is a must. Ever since then, I haven’t stepped into college ground.. thanks Turek for doing what I and others probably don’t have the patience in doing.
Grow up dear🤭
@@trumpbellend6717 Do you know that their was an insult that would make a Viking obligated to kill you. Some people value respect more then you, and I am pretty sure you wouldn't tell a Viking grow up.
@@viperstriker4728
Lol sorry dear I don't "respect" anyone that thinks our moral status the result of a talking snake convincing a rib woman and mud figurine man to eat a magic fruit against the wishes of an invisible being who thinks it moral to *_"kill all the males from amongst the little ones"_* 🤢🤮
@@trumpbellend6717 telling him to grow up? How old are you?
@@thomashasty2936
Lol old enough to have realised more than 50 years ago the absurdity of belief in the biblical narratives dear. 🤫
Love the content, brother! I know you’re committed to being objective and fair, but Nick was the reason this discussion was going off course. Nick came to monologue, not dialogue. Nick came to play gotcha, frank came to teach. Nick was combative, Frank was calm
I agree, Nick seemed frustrated and frightened the more Frank would knock down the false doctrine from the book, 'The God Delusion." Nick seemed desperate when he couldn't achieve his goal, poor kid. Too bad he arrived so late that he missed all the hard facts Frank had for him, and probably would've just left at that point.
It’s better to have an understanding heart than a critical heart. I give nick an A for effort of getting on the mic and trying.
The gospel is never too heavy or preachy. It is TRUTH!
"I see a paradox that no one tells about" if it starts like this i know it will be something dumb.
A Christian, a Muslim, a Hindu, and a Buddhist were seated at a table, facing north, south, east, and west respectively. When asked to identify the center of the table, the Christian pointed north, the Muslim south, the Hindu east, and the Buddhist west. Observing this, an atheist who had been watching from the sidelines concluded with a degree of certainty, "The center of the table does not exist!"
Wrong, the Muslim would murder the Christian. The Hindu would say direction doesn’t exist, and the Buddhist would be starving himself to death.
Or, a different atheist would say, the centre of the table is the centre of the table and none of those around the table are looking in the right place.
The joke is flawed, if the words 'centre of the table' are replaced with god, as the joke implies, then the only logical conclusion made by the atheist (assuming he or she is rational) would be that each person has a different idea and the existance of god cannot be boiled down to a single idea based on their diverse cultural interpretations.
The centre of the table is there in the joke, and undeniable. The atheist would be able to see it. The joke is almost funny, but not written cleverly enough to work. The fact that god is not visible is what leads, amongst many other factors, to atheists not having the belief in god (s).
An atheist needs proof of existance, therefore the centre of the table provides that in this case. If the table was invisible, and claimed by those around it to be there (irrespectove of where they are pointing) I would want its existance proven by putting a glass on it.
If the glass falls, I will suspend my belief until such time as evidence is demonstrated.
@@clarkegibson464 Actually, the more accurate scenario would involve the group arguing over how the table got there. The Christian would claim to know who built the table, and that he knows the builder personally. The Muslim would claim to know who built the table, but call the Christian a blasphemer because the builder of the table is far too important to talk to just anybody. I don't know much about Buddhism or Hinduism, but I suspect they would claim that there were many builders of the table. The atheist isn't even sitting at the table. He just stands there above the rest, mocking them for even claiming there was a builder to begin with. The atheist would claim that the table needs no builder, that its intricate design is simply a matter of many coincidences happening over a long period of time. The atheist claims that the existence of the table is not sufficient evidence to support the claim that there is a builder.
@@darkprinc979
Absolute GENIUS 👌🏾
Wow. Crazily stupid play on words to astound the ….. stupid.
The atheist from the corner of the room literally has a perspective of the flawed rationale of the people at the table and with science and logic dispute the single mindedness of the people at the table and work out where the centre of the table is precisely.
Almost a perfect analogy for religion😁
Beautiful video. God Bless you man. Loved the ending.
Where can I watch this whole presentation.
Yes Praise Jesus. Join the narrow road, might be narrow but not hard. I say this by my testimony. A born and bought up hindu, saw worst part of life. Was mentally ill and eventually physically ill and almost certain to die and no hope from doctors( they called me abnormal).
So started to search god, visited temples, recited prayers and atlast Jesus came to me and here I am alive and having life in abundance. No more mental or physical illness that too without pill(recovered in hardly 2-3 months after I met Jesus i.e and in the time when doctors had already declared me abnormal). I Praise him with my testimony.😊
So, way might be narrow, but not hard.Bcoz it is by his grace we are saved not by our works. And thus I can say confidently that there is God and that Jesus is God.😊
It is simpler than we think. Question is who do people see when they have a "near death experience" that is they died and came back to life. Well people see Jesus Christ. It is easy to believe when the person is Christian. Christians are not the only people with near death experiences, Who do Muslims or Hindus or any other religion see? Testimony exists. Who is on the other side of death? Dive in and research. Share what you find.
I always enjoy your videos but, the loving, caring and compassion that you displayed during your invitation to all people to come to the loving arms of Christ, at the end of your video was absolutely beautiful and refreshing. Blessings to you for your example of Christ's love. Thanks for sharing.
Is there somwhere a link to full prezentation and discusion without the comments?
You know the story of blindmen and the elephant? One touched the ear and said elephant is a winnow, one touched the tail and said elephant is a snake, another one touched the leg and said the elephant is a tree... and so on. No one was really right. Only a man with vision knew it is an elephant. And so it is with a Christian. The Christian has accepted Christ, the Light of the World which makes him see the Truth completely. I was also one of the blind four years ago. After accepting the Light of the World, Lord Jesus Christ, I see everything in the right perspective. Praise the Lord 🙏🙏🙏💖
Love the premise of the video and have said it for years.
An assertion that got doesn’t exist is an affirmative claim equally responsible for the burden of proof.
Great work. Keep going!
if you're going to ask a question, slow down, and listen for and to the answers.
Asking to prove a point is not a good way of learning.
It's not asking it's "preaching a point" but not following any logic.
It's literally repeating what you have heard.
When you have to speak so fast to overtalk others YOU'RE NOT ASKING TO LISTEN.
Loved the idea of the quote by the host, not verbatim, "Jesus chose you to be with Him".
So much so that He also wants to dwell amo gsr us and in us.
Thanks so much for this video. I appreciate all the answers that have been given but I feel that the main question that has been laid down hasn't been answered yet. And as a new born Christian I still struggle with answering this: how is it possible that all the people at the "table" that he talks about, are convinced about their own truth -and probably experience truth- and yet there is only one correct? I used to hold onto the pluralism theory and I want to open up to the idea of One truth but it still hurts me a bit to give this idea up. It seems more loving to give other faith believers respect in this way. Truth is often claimed by stating facts about Jesus. And although I believe them to be true and I choose this path, I think other believers will have accurate facts that prove their religion as well. Can you help me dig deeper into this question and into my Christian faith?
Every time I listen my faith is strengthened. Thank you.
I like what you said at the end. It reminds me of what I like to tell people like Nick. I’ve heard others say it as well, so it’s out there. I tell them: Consider this, if I’m wrong, and you’re right, then , when we both die someday, we are just no more and that’s it. Nothing either one of us can do about it. But, if I’m right, and you’re wrong, then I get to live for eternity with my Lord and Savior with whom I love. And the best part of it all is, it’s free. You on the other hand will live in eternal damnation where their is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
I go on to tell them that I, nor anyone else is forcing you to believe. It’s up to you, and you alone. So what do you care that I believe, and you don’t. If you’re convinced that you’re right, then let me be. Im doing nothing to you. Unless of course, you have doubt in what you’re saying, and are looking for answers.
…..then the conversation really begins…..
Wow! Thanks! ❤
No man can resist God. Those that have ears they will hear. Those that have eyes they will see. God only came to save His people. There will be gnashing of teeth no matter who is right or wrong. God decides because He is sovereign.
Why I care is because while you're titled to believe any bullshit you have been indoctrinated with what you do not have the right to do , which Christians do ,do is impose by various means your supposed gods laws, your tenets, dogma and doctrines of your religion on me, I would like nothing better than to leave you alone, and will do so the minute you reciprocate.
Swoosh
God doesn't send anyone to Hell. But it's that person's Will is the reason they go to Hell.
Damn, this dude really likes to hear himself talking without thinking about anything other that his own words. Thats a hell of a discussion.
Speak that truth brother, I love and admire your boldness