Grew up Buddhist, became Atheist, got sucked into new age movement and believed I was my own god. I used to make fun of Christians and thought Christians were just a bunch of crazy cultist but as someone who proclaimed to live by every "religion," I felt like a hypocrite for not giving the Bible a shot. But after diving deep into the Bible and something changed within me and I tried to fight it off. I told myself "No way, I will never be Christian, Jesus was just a great teacher like the Buddha." But I was so wrong and long story short, a lot has happened ever since picking up that Bible 2 years ago and I can say that I have changed as a person and I finally understand everything about my life and just life in general. I have never found so much inner peace connecting back to God and I can proudly say that Jesus saved my life and that I love him with the new heart he has given me! Edit: WOW! I love you all, thank you for all the kind words and support. That is why God brought me back to his family! Just to clarify to those people who think this is fake or I am just hopping on the "band wagon," I am 34 years old and I have been on this path since I was 18 years old. I finally gave my life to Jesus when I turned 33! So it was a process to get to where I am! God is great and the Lord is my shepherd!
We are so happy to have you in the family of God. Thank you for sharing your journey. Can you pinpoint a particular passage that spearheaded your conversion? What caused you to forsake all your former teachings and go all in on Jesus Christ? I'm desperately curious, but I hope you don't mind my asking: I, too, went through atheism to come to Christ, so I'm always intrigued to meet a fellow traveler.
Whoever asserts that the Judeo-Christian God is an uncreated being omnipotent and omniscient within the universe he created doesn't understand logic. [EDIT: Many replies to this comment have misunderstood me: the Judeo-Christian God is "omnipotent and omniscient within the universe he created" but not *confined* within that universe. I used those words because, for all we know, there may be many Gods, each creating and maintaining their own universes.]
whoever asserts that the universe is a created entity, and thus we should ask who created the universe, doesn't understand the universe. whoever asserts that the Hindu creator God is a created being, and thus we should ask who created Brahma, doesn't understand Hinduism. whoever asserts that (insert any religion of your choice), and thus we should ask who created (insert god of your choice), doesn't understand that religion. when you're not specializing in molecular biology, do you create mad libs???
The word itself "God" implies that there shouldn't be a higher being. One can't simply assume it could be created, let alone if the lore implies he has been around forever.
The debate will always get turned to Jesus because he is the way the truth and the life and there’s no way of hiding it because the TRUTH prevails. God bless you all ❤️✝️
Religion: A poison to society via ignorant men “making shit up,” attempting to control the simple minded through delusions of “magical sky fairies,” based on an immoral, divisive, hypocritical, bullshit theology, ripping-off billions of tax- free dollars from the gullible!
I have always been a natural skeptic. I grew up Anglican, rejected it as invalid at a young age, became an atheist, then evolved into a Christian based on evidence. Given enough time and an open mind, one cannot escape ultimately realizing the reality of God. Finally, that journey leads to the shocking fact that God Himself became man in the person of Jesus Christ.
@@friisteching3433 initially, an American Indian teacher opened my mind to spiritual beliefs. I explored religions for awhile, skeptically at first. I visited a Christian church, tried a prayer… and Jesus showed up! I got zapped like St.Paul on the road to Damascus. Since then, it’s been one proof upon miracle after another. It was all God doing it, not me.
@@friisteching3433 No. Many, many verifiable empirical proofs. Perhaps you could share your definition of "evidence". I will try to share what I can. But, my story would fill a 700-page book.
Jesus has changed *my* life - and He is continuously changing *me* from the inside. Knowing Him has been the greatest adventure! And even though I have gone through some tough things, I have always had *hope* , because of Him.
can you ask him how we get cold fusion working, cos frankly i don't believe you, if you can find the answer to the energy problem we have - which might solve hunger as a by product, then i might believe you and that there is a god, but i think you won't get the answer, or you'll make a really complex excuse (god is busy, he can't answer physics problems today) and you're full of crap.
@@HarryNicNicholas Nice, Harry. So, God only exists if He meets *your* specific demands? What are *you* doing to alleviate child starvation? Well, I haven't seen you "solve hunger", so should I believe *you* exist?
@@ingela_injeela You may have noticed ,Harry does not claim to be a god. Not sure what point you believe you made there. There are many that claim they have a relationship with jesus /god but I cannot see what the difference is between that claim and the other claims regarding what god did/does. Totally untestable claims appear to non believers as just that, claims and assertions with no corroborating evidence. I mean how do you unravel the glaring fact people of other religions speak the same as you do about their own god?
@@ARRAM57 I was using Harry's logic back at him. Just because God doesn't act the way Harry wants Him to - does it therefore mean that God doesn't exist? No. And when Harry accuses God of not caring for starving children, I ask him what he has done about it himself. - Because God does in fact care very much about children. And He repeatedly tells us to *take special care* of widows and *fatherless* in their need - this is in God's eyes about the most important thing we can do. So why blame God, when *we* are not doing what God told us to do?
@@ingela_injeela The thing is, no one has seen god act .....period. As I wrote, one claim about god or what god has done ,is no different from any other, they all lack evidence. Which goes for people claiming to have a relationship with their version of a god too. "God cares about children" ,they are just empty words in the absence of any evidence of a god or any evidence of any actions or reaction that has a direct causal connection to your god. A well tweaked fabricated concept that answers every question but explains nothing.
Just being honest here. I’m subbed or was subbed to quite a few channels like this, and you are by far my favorite. Keep it up brother. You do a great job.
What’s fascinating is that if you listen to every dialogue with an atheist and a christian, the atheist’s words are so void of life and are extremely shallow when it comes to the human condition. But the christian has something deep and profound to say about life.
I know this from personal experience. It is because they are stuck in love of their intellect. It is the bits of the fruit from the knowledge of good and evil. The mind is not life, the heart is, that is where Jesus resides, so that is why it sounds devoid of life. They have not connected the two. They have both, hence why so many agnositcs and atheists can not bear the suffering in the world. They are not heartless. They know there is a God, they are just angry with Him. or why would they spend so much energy focused on him? They do not beleive they will destroy Christianity with their arguement, they are argueing because they desperately want to be proved wrong. For me science was one of the things that change my mind. The split particle experiment where the action of a particle changes based on whether it is being observed or not. So the mere act of observation changes the action of observable phenomenon. Also consider the placebo effect where beleif can change the state of cells in the human body. It's not rocket science. 😊.
I am currently listening to Christopher Hitchens's memoirs and find them to be deep, profound, and very moving in regard to the human condition. Check that one out.
@@haggismcbaggis9485 Hitchens was the one and only. That’s why across the board if you ask any Christian who they respected or liked the most in debates Hitchens will be far and away the winner for both sides. I would think Lennox makes the atheist think a little bit deeper as well as compared to Craig or some others. But that’s me b
I came to Christ about 3 years ago. I don't go to a church. Videos like yours really help keep me enagaged. Lennox is beacon when I get lost in doubt. I thank you for what you do.
@Murk_Matter Thanks for this. Can you say more? I meet with a friend once a week to study the Bible and pray. I also read the Bible daily and pray for guidance from God. I don't feel I need it until I find aporopriate people.
Thanks Brandon, another great DDOW. Congratulations on your relentless pursuit of nuance to the Apology. I know it’s more than a full time job & much appreciated.
why does god need apologists? doesn't he talk to you direct? isn't he "personal" or have i been lied to? why are there so many denominations of he's talking to you all?
@@HarryNicNicholas God doesn't need apologists, but they are helpful for folks trying to understand him. Seems to me that Brandon is onto something with this channel given the 630K subscribers that find his content useful or interesting.
My condensed answer to "Bad stuff; therefore, no God": First, From the "Tree of the knowledge of good and evil" {Genesis) we are to experience both so that we, of our free will, seek our good God. Second, we are in a temporary tent (says Paul) before we get a new body and go to one of two permanent homes. I want to be in God's home and not the one reserved for Satan.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Amazing. If Jerry B had to say "yes", you would not believe the answer and say a personal experience is no proof. If the answer was "no" then you would be all over it like white on rice. So - why ask a question that is skewed to your prejudice? In this very video, your answer is given. If the evidence of thousands and millions of people all saying the same thing "Jesus changed my life" does not convince you, perhaps then you should seek your own "personal experience". If you don't - you're just missing out on the best thing in life. Life itself.
Hemmorrhoids are an (inflammation) signal by the body that you're damaging it by eating the wrong food. I've had hemmorrhoids my whole life and so has my dad and they went away completely when we stopped eating seed oils, sugar and processed carbs following a carnivore, aka, proper human diet.
@@mirandahotspring4019 I think I know how my own butthole feels. Of course they go away. Not only is there is no such thing as an hemmorrhoid that isnt "troubling", but once you understand what it is and how a high blood sugar as well as other inflammatory compounds from corpokibble poison affect the cells in your body which generate this inflammation (immune response) it becomes self evident even without the personal anecdote. You should start your learning journey from places such as Dr Ken Berry or Dr Anthony Chafee's channels. Lots of great life changing nutritional medical info.
Also....the world has fallen, our genes are decaying. We are NOT the beautiful physical specimens we were at Creation. I can't understand why people don't see that. The only thing that keeps us living longer in the vast majority of cases is drugs and surgery and even then, in our much-lauded longer life span we are plagued by the incurable curse of dementia.
can't you make a story about prayer and how god got rid of the bum problem you had? lots of people make a living from selling those "stories". or am i just assuming all religists are frauds?
It feels as though these days, everywhere I turn I’m met with hatred and disdain towards my faith, people calling all the points and arguments nonsense, logical fallacies, circular reasoning etc. I feel as though my people are being categorized in the same light as flat-Earthers and it’s horrible. I’m grateful for your channel that’s discussing these things thoughtfully and respectfully on both sides.
Just face the TRUTH that ATHEISM and RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND GOD will neither reward nor punish all Atheists, instead, Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. GOD will neither reward nor punish fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions, instead, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ATHEISM and RELIGIONS The loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" clearly written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 but the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Nor christianity, their is no actual evidence of paul ever being anything other than a lie on paper to justify the bible , Which cannot be justified. Where as god been for over 65,000 years of my peoples civilisation and culture. Show me the evidence of any god from 65,000 year ago. Religion has one motive, to infest population's , divide them , then have war each other til very few reamina. All in the name of a god that has no existence outside the minds of imbeciles.
To be honest though Jesus through Peter the rock he found his one true church, entrusting him with the keys to heaven and a special title still held in succession since Jesus to this day. The Catholic Church is that one true church founded by Jesus.
@@katekam8600 As I recall, Jesus said "Upon this rock, I will build my church". The rock is not Peter, but the faith in Christ being the son of God. Jesus said he will build his church, which is a possessive statement. The church belongs to Jesus because it is his work that brings it to existence: "I will build". If you want further background whether the rock was a foundation, it can be given. Jesus gave the parable of the man who built his house upon the rock, who was like a wise man. That Jesus is the builder only means the house will be better. It is not given to n=man to be God, but man can become like God once again through the work of the Perfect One. Humanity is clearly described as fallen in Genesis. If you're trying to say one church or another is perfect, I will say you are wrong. Jesus works with each individual heart, adding it to his kingdom. There is no corporate guarantee seen in the text as given. To see the weak nature of Peter, consider what Jesus told him prior to being betrayed: "You will deny me thrice before the cock crows".
@HarryNicNicholas you are all in denial lol. The entire thing of atheism is denial/disbelief. It's literally part of the definition. But atheists (like yourself) turn to insults because you actually don't have an argument. You just burden others with proving their point. Funny enough, atheism takes more faith than religion.
@@HarryNicNicholashave anything other than cliche nonsense that anyone can say? "Yeah sure, we're all delusional, sky daddy, sky daddy, so predictable and just advertises how ignorant and narcissistic atheists are".
Paul heard the gospel from Stephen. He is Luke's eye-witness for Acts 7. So, on the road to Damascus, Jesus telling Paul that he is persecuting Jesus changes everything for Paul. Paul is able to see Jesus is the Messiah the prophets spoke of in the Jewish scriptures.
Yes, he heard Stephen's message. But Paul believed because he had a face to face encountered with Jesus. The Man he saw died on the cross was alive having conversation with him. And Jesus made him blind.
@@HarryNicNicholas Paul was a Pharisee. He was a member of the Sanhedrin. The people who plotted to kill Jesus. He always testified that. And Paul spent 3 years with the resurrected Jesus in Arabia. Jesus introduced Himself to Paul in Acts 9. Paul testified he saw the resurrected Jesus in 1 Corinthians 15. Read the Bible. It is all there.
@@HarryNicNicholas 3 As he went on his way and was approaching Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” 5 He asked, “Who are you, Lord?” He replied, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 6 But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you need to do.” 7 The men traveling with him stood there speechless. They heard the voice but did not see anyone.
"Atlas Shrugged is fiction that is presented as fiction. The bible and the Qur'an are fiction that are presented as truth. Big difference." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Dawkins himself admitted he doesnt care abkut evidence, no amount of evidence could convince him of God. That dismantles the initial reason for Atheism being lack of evidence. Its not that.
More to the point, Dawkins details what evidence wouldn't convince him that God is real. 1. Touching God. 2. Meeting Jesus face to face. 3. Stars spelling it out in multiple languages. 4. Angels leading a procession of Jesus's return. 5. Anything that leads to such conclusions should be ignored, and the science paid lipservice. 6. And ignore anything written, eyewitnessed or crowd witnessed by anyone, anywhere, ever. I think that about summarised his stand. There's more, but that'll do where his head is at, in his own words.
@mirandahotspring4019 God does not force others to accept Him. The evidence is only there for those who seek it, not to those who stubbornly try to refute it.
As a teacher of Religious and Moral Education in a Scottish Secondary School, I was often asked this question: "Who created God?" My response was simple: "A man in a yellow submarine." This led to the question "Who created the man in the yellow submarine." The ensuing question was answered by "A pink purple-eater." The answer to the next question was "A giant cricket bat" (which is were the "atheist" must start - with life coming from non-life). The answer to the next question was "God. Now where did this conversation start?" The point is that, by definition, the Creator is uncreated. People who fail to understand that are totally confused!
Atheists don’t think that life comes from non life, or something. Atheism doesn’t say anything of the sort. Youre just making up excuses for it being able to provide evidence for your absurd claims. Don’t be mad at the atheist. That’s not my fault. I see why you teach theology instead of…something REAL like a REAL educator does.
@@sitornyIK If the creator was created then we'll have to go on and on and on endlessly. But that's impossible. If there were infinite days before today, we'll never have gotten here. Which implies there definitely is a beginning and that beginning is not a created.
11:48 Lennox establishes that science does not have the means to test certain phenomena directly, so it must infer its methods. The above is true, but unlike faith, the models that science establishes by inference can be tested and must be consistent with the results and must predict data subsequent to the inference.
@@JonathanVachon777 Yes. But you have to understand that this theory does not have "results" (say, mathematical) but rather fossil and genetic evidence that confirm it.
This gave me 2 great "aha's". Thanks for digging through all the content that is out there in apologetics and bringing it to us with comments. Keep up the Good Work.
The happiest atheist I've ever met. If more atheists were like him, I'd have more difficulty with my faith. When I was low on faith, the one thing that kept me from losing it all was just simply what utter miserable people atheists were. But my faith is growing again and it's no longer an issue.
Brothers and sisters. Please pray for me. For about 15 years I have been struggling with debilitating sickness that's made my life unberable. I am in my mid 30s and would love to still have strength to serve my Savior and Lord. Jesus is my Healer. Thank you all 🙏🏻 Please also pray that God grants me strength to go through this valley with humility and thankfulness.
"...watching the United States become increasingly influenced by Christ-centered politics troubles me. The dystopian future depicted in Atlas Shrugged becomes more easily imaginable. And it is for this reason that I dread the fact that so few people I've met have ever even heard of Ayn Rand, let alone have enough understanding of her work to make a judgement about it." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
I thought for a second JL was going the moral argument but no just asserts the truth of reality. Followers of Christ been existing for a min, I’m one I’m changed I know Him
Was born a Catholic. Stayed that way for 16 years, then with the introduction of modern science and propaganda, I became an atheist and transitioned to an agnostic for another 16 years. At 33 years, I found the evidence for Christianity irrefutable. The engineer in me couldn't deny it with all the science at my disposal. And so I accepted Christ as my Lord and Saviour. I saw an exBuddhist in this comment section who also coincidentally converted at age 33 and felt I'd share my similar experience.
7:07 If I understand what he is saying, what I am hearing is: He is arguing that Christians use confirmation bias. Obviously, Christians would disagree. We don’t find evidence to prove a claim we have made up in our minds. The empty tomb, and Jesus appearing to his apostles IS evidence that Jesus is who he displayed himself to be. The apostles, and Mary did not use confirmation bias to seek positive evidence for a claim they were trying to create. The evidence came to them, literally. Please understand that distinction. The apostles, and a couple of woman did not actively search for evidence to prove a claim, the evidence came to them.
I find it hard to believe the source. You don't have "Jesus appearing to his apostles", you have gospels saying Jesus appeared to them. Thier words could be wrong. Romans did not usually give out criminals a proper tomb, but instead discarded in mass graves. Why should the gospel be believed when it goes against what we know of Roman tradition?
@@friisteching3433 you don't know enough about Roman history. They often respected burial rights of other cultures. Especially in the far flung sections of the empire. For multiple reasons - not the least of which was simply pragmatic. Religeon and governance goes hand in hand. Even today: and You don't want an entire occupied culture rebelling cuz you didn't let them buttery their dead. This event in particular was Quite the Ordeal and considered an 'internal matter' of the Jews.. ie. It was a high profile case just like ours today when such trials happen. Also he wasn't a criminal of Rome - he was a criminal of the Jews for being a heretic. The Roman's were merely the executioner since they were the local government. It was the jews that wanted him strung up and this the're again.. an internal matter and what they do with the body is no concern of theirs. So much so they even hastened the crucifixion by stabbing the man so that they could start their rites before sunset. This was quite common for other religions to have their burial rites respected in many cases especially outside of lowgrade common-criminals.
Assuming that any of it actually happened. I find it far more plausible that Jesus passed out and was whisked away tp be healed. Then disguised himself to flee the area but saw some old friends as he was on the road.
Atlas Shrugged came significantly later in my exposure to Objectivist literature. It is only as of late that I am gaining an appreciation for some of the more subtle intricacies of Miss Rand's nuances. -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
In the christian channels the channel owners work hard to delete all the comments that bring their beliefs into question. As we know religion does not stand up to scrutiny.
@@MrSouthernlord I do not think it is the channel owners manually deleting comments as I literally have been able to reload the page and find my comment gone. This has also happened across multiple channels. No, I think TH-cam clearly has something that detects certain words/phrases and deletes them the second they post.
11:05 Lennox presents "personal evidence" that he, by believing in God, has "peace", "forgiveness" and "new life"... and that this has also happened to many people.... That is, subjective bias and ad popolum "evidence"...
That is the reason every man must work out his own salvation. We can't just rely on other experiences. We are to testify of what God has done in our own lives. Then it is up to you what to do with that information. Paul even states that we must test everything and hold fast to that which proves true. There is a reason the scientific method came from biblical concepts. God is not afraid to be put to the test.
@@John75Mulhern you are aware that there is fast you can do that doesn’t exclude eating like fasting from things you do or entertain that you give a lot of time to and instead spend time with God
"I direct you toward Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand. In her system, she identifies the needs of men succinctly. She talks about individualism, productivity, a flourishing life, an exchange of physical and emotional values between men. Importantly, she provides reasoning to substantiate her claims." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Truth is an asymptote. The right of the line ignorance. The left knowledge. Doesn't matter whether you are crossing the street or accessing your soul you divide ignorance by 2. Then again by 2 and so on. The line never touches the x-axis so you never achieve full knowledge. But at some point you are satisfied enough to act.
11:38 John Lennox's point about an inference to the best explanation can be overlooked, but it seems to be a powerful way to approach historical events. Dr. Stephen Meyer discusses this in his book, Return of the God Hypothesis.
13:13 False estate That Jesus supposedly "revived" does not necessarily imply that he "defeated death" (as if he were a supernatural god). There are several alternatives that are still seen daily today: - Was misdiagnosed dead - He suffered from catalapesia - It was a later invention by the editors to give more power to the Christian movement (a fact that has happened in other religions). Brandon wants to establish that the resurrection must be true because it "gives hope to humanity to transcend death"...but of course, this is just a believing claim, not evidence.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the MOCKERS, HATERS, and SLANDERERS of GOD and JESUS CHRIST Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW and are fully aware that they unitedly - 1. mock and degrade the Bible as just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies and fairy tales. 2. dishonor the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ and slander him as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD 3. dishonor Jesus Christ and slander him as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by his GOD and Father all authority in heaven and on earth. ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the LIARS, DECEIVERS, and MURDERERS of HUMAN BEINGS Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE is the ONLY BOOK in the world that produces all the LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE PERSONS on EARTH GOD KNOWS that imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and obey his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their obedience to all that were written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are clearly the loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead" is GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Lennox misunderstands the premise of “who created God?” You have to establish that God wasn’t created. Just saying he wasn’t created isn’t enough. You have to give a grounding for that assertion. If you can’t answer “how do you know God isn’t created?” Then you can’t assert that he isn’t created
@@Gorpmeat it’s not an infinite regression. You don’t understand what time is. Also, to avoid an infinite regression you can’t just say “it stops here!” You need to give a reason why
@@arthursworld7302 Yes it is an infinite regression. You are constantly going "Who created God? Ok, then who created the being above that? And the being above that?" By assuming a creator at all for God you get into this complete logical nonsense. God, by definition of being God, is already the end. The final stop. There is no one above him or he wouldn't be God to begin with.
@@pcdeltalink036 1. I’m not assuming an infinite regression. I’m not assuming anything and I’m ok with saying “I don’t know,” because I’d rather be correct than certain but incorrect. All creation, every act, is understood as a change over time. Before this, now that. But The Big Bang is the beginning of time as we understand it. Our understanding of everything breaks down before the moment of the Big Bang. There can be no creation without a change over time, which needs time to exist but there is no time. So what could have caused the Big Bang? 1. A creator god 2. Another natural process similar to a multiverse concept 3. A constant repetition of expanding and contracting of the same universe. 4. Something else that hasn’t occurred to me (who am I to say I’m capable of coming up with all the possible answers?) 2. You’re claiming that a creator God is the beginning of everything. Here are the issues with that. 2.1 how do you know which god it is that is the creator god? since there are many competing ideas of god. Only one can be true or they can all be false. Those are the two options. 2.2 how do you know that the buck ends with your god and that it doesn’t end with another God that created him, but is not expressed in the Bible? 2.3 what’s the problem with saying “I don’t know. But I’ll make a conclusion after I see more conclusive evidence.”? What you guys are doing are just arbitrarily saying “this god is where the buck stops because it makes sense to me. I must be right.” Don’t you see how I arrogant that is? Why not be humble and accept that this is beyond our current understandings as humans? Or would you rather be certain but incorrect over being correct?
@@messertl Yes, it is Satan. I am sitting here with Zeus, Thor,Superman, Spiderman, the Flash and Santa Claus. We are having a big laugh at God and his gullible sheep followers as I am more powerful than him. That is why he only helps star sportsmen and top actors rather than people that really need help.
@@MrSouthernlord You gonna find out after you depart this world. Remember God of Christians is love and there is no harm in loving him and experiencing his goodness. Rather than ignoring and at the end embarrassing whom he warned us about. You have nothing to lose Being a Christian.
My dad told me my whole life that God spoke to him.. allot of people thought my dad was crazy, I know that he was not. I believe my father and I believe what he taught me about God.. he proved his integrity to me personally
@@jtapia0 Nobody expect from you to believe in a God, neither didn't anybody at any time forced you to be a christian. But here you are expecting from us to rather picked your picture while you have zero self experience whether these things are true or not. And as a result of that, all your mambo jumbo at their best is just your opinion, that is all
The funny thing about the title of this video is that it's the Christian, not the atheist, who accidentally refutes the argument for God's existence. As Maddox asserts starting here, 5:00, asking the question "who created X" presupposes that X was created. He seems to realize that the same falacious reasoning applies to the Christian mantra that "if God doesn't exist, then who created the universe?" This ofcourse similarly presupposes that the Universe had to be "created".
The same way that you find your meaning in life through diving into vices and drowning in pleasures that the world has to offer just to get by and make your life feel "unique".
The key to why this is relevant is in who Paul was and who he became: Paul (at the time called Saul) was a devout Jewish Pharisee that considered Christians to be blasphemers and he persecuted and attacked Christians for their beliefs. He was in a position of power and wealth, set up to be an influential figure in his society for life. Why in the world would someone like that have a complete change of heart and start proclaiming the gospel to the point of being stripped of his status and wealth, thrown in prison, and eventually killed all because he claimed to have seen Christ risen from the dead? Perhaps he actually saw the risen Christ? Not only him, but many others over a period of 40 days including 500 Jews at one single time saw Jesus risen from the dead. And that is only one of many evidences. The truth is that Jesus Christ is risen and he loves us, put your faith in him and be saved!
@@Gorpmeat If he existed, and that change occurred, no one knows for sure. - It could be because he hallucinated and went crazy. - He could have been in a fragile moment and simply adopted that as true because it made him feel better or special. - It may be that he was misunderstood - It was a story invented later by biased believers. That is to say, there are many possible explanations, and more reasonable ones, than appealing to a supernatural being. As I told you at the beginning, no one knows for sure, but if believers want to establish the evidence of Paul's change as the extraordinary intervention of a god, then they must show extraordinary verifiable evidence. Your other paragraph is ad-popolum. Keep in mind that the Bible was written long after the supposed miracles, and edited by obviously biased believers. Not very different from the heroic wonders of powerful warriors that their people tell as true to increase national pride.
Wonderful discussion. Every believer whose faith in Christ impacts life is the evidence that Jesus lives and we serve the living God. Impacts their life is
One of my favorite songs from Katie Nichole is called. I am living proof why I love that song because I am living proof that God is real. He has taken all my addictions, giving me peace of mind, free from anxieties and worry I don’t know how people can’t believe. When someone like me used to drink, smoke, drugs, whatever I wanted most of my life and the second I started praying to Jesus it all went away. he’s right it’s not just me people being physically healed all the time all around the world. What will make these unbelievers believe?
God has to do it. They are literally dead unless He causes them to search for Him, but as long as they have a pulse they have the possibility. The answer is they should humble themselves to see if they are of the elect and read his Word and go to a Bible teaching Church. God will cause them to conform to His image if they are His. ❤
And if someone else become a Muslim or a buddhist or a Zoroastrian for the same reason, does that prove they are correct in their interpretation of the supernatural?
"Though I understand that there may be various other factors, I think if you remove religion from the equation, comparatively one may nurture a more courageous child. Perhaps a rational one too, if the concept of life as the most important 'value' is well understood." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
" Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
But Paul never met a physical Jesus ??? There is no eye witness testimony at all. Currently world wide humans worship 700 different gods, goddesses, gurus and cult leaders. Shows the gullibility and need for many t just follow something and be part of a gang/cult. Very sad & destructive.
Many Christians didn't meet the physical Jesus but they believed. Many also believed Jesus because they meet the risen Christ so they believed. I'm one of those who meet the risen Jesus.I meet Him yet I still doubt it.But I had many more encounters with Him so there's nothing I can do but to believe because Christ didn't stop to convince me He is the Son of God.
@@JonathanVachon777 Yes indeed & watches are real. Gods are invented and NONE have been presented only claimed. Therefore, can be dismissed until evidence is provided. This is the rational position.
@@JonathanVachon777 Sure I typed this using energy. DONE. Energy is defined as the “ability to do work, which is the ability to exert a force causing displacement of an object.” Despite this confusing definition, its meaning is very simple: energy is just the force that causes things to move. Like pressing a key.
@alexhansford2459 - You are responsible for suppressing in ungodliness and unrighteousness the knowledge of God, that you have, like every other human creature (Romans 1, 18-25).
@@Morewecanthink "Ayn Rand distinguishes her philosophy as one that celebrates the cerebral; she acknowledged man's mind as the ultimate source of man's achievement." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
@@BeefT-Sq - And what then was her foundation within her own worldview for her attempt to ascribe to the arbitrary results of the arbitrary electrical impulses of the arbitrary chemical processes of her purposeless random brain any significance? - Doing so (distinguishing her philosophy as one that celebrates ...) she was only confirming what she denied being not able not to presuppose the Truth of what she denied. Jud 1,18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
It's always refreshing listening to John Lennox. Michael Ruse always tries to separate himself from Dawkins and the rest because he sees them as shallow!
The atheist in this debate is just a poor debater. He opens up opportunities for Lennox to capitalize on. However, Saul/Paul didn't 'meet Jesus', he had a vision, a hallucination, a dream, brought on by any of a number of things. Perhaps an excess of wine, perhaps too little water and too much sun, whatever, combined with his history of abusing Christians. Such things happen to people even today, they hit a moment in their lives they realize they need to change and they make a change. And a religious zealot is going to continue to be a zealot, but they might change teams. Much like a recovering addict (a kind of zealotry) will become a very annoyingly dedicated religious person depending on which religious group helped him through his addiction recovery process. And the creation aspect in this discussion is similar, the atheist on stage made a very poor presentation for what is essentially the problem of evil. If evil exists your god cannot. Christians have a number of responses to this beat into them, ranging from 'mysterious ways' to 'who said god is always loving' to 'god allows evil to help us grow'. None of which make sense but those are examples of common responses. And I say they don't make sense because in a system where you have an all powerful, all knowing god setting things up there is no need for humans to learn through such pain and hardship, it could simply imbue us with the needed knowledge and skills and disciplines from the start. We don't build cars such that they need to hit a few curbs in just the right way before they will go down the street properly. So this debate is simply Lennox getting handed an opponent that isn't very good at what he does. Debating is a skill, this is like the sign behind them says, just a conversation, one that appears to be sest up to make Lennox seem like a genius. Let's see how he does against someone else, like Sam Harris perhaps, or Stephen Fry. We lost Hitchens who would have sent Lennox away in tears.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS are OPPOSED and AGAINST the BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales and Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and RELIGIONS The loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" clearly written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" is NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of Religions but GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@Laugical Well I found this: th-cam.com/video/jB6BTb8Dinw/w-d-xo.html Which is referencing a debate in Edinborough. There was some kind of audience vote and they sided with Lennox but even Lennox says in this clip to not put any stock in such votes. Hitchens remained an atheist though so clearly he was not convinced. Even so, I was not aware these two had faced off, but my only impressions from the Lennox talks I have seen is he is something of a panderer, and a bit of a greased pig in terms of being skillful at not allowing himself to get pinned down. Debates are funny things, They aren't about sorting out the truth, they are all about strategy, facts and truth are optional.
If you accept the Biblical testimony of Paul's meeting with Christ, Paul was blinded at the meeting of Christ and regained his sight when he met with the person that Christ told him to meet. So, it's not so simple as him having a hallucination, or being dehydrated or drunk. Either it happens as stated or the testimony is a complete falsehood
@@avi8r66 it’s funny how now that you know Hitchens and Lennox had a debate they are now not about finding truth or facts. If that is the case then what is the point in bringing up the idea of Hitchens debating Lennox in the first place? What does Hitchens in theory being a better debater have to do with the truth at all if truth is not found in debates?
Jesus said “my sheep know my voice “ we are not to argue vain senseless subjects. If a person is dead set against God then God isn’t dealing with them. There are plenty of people who are open to the truth of God.
"Indoctrination of children by parents and care givers, school teachers etc. during the formative years of cognition subvert the natural inclination toward reason and understanding from experience i.e. reality, and replace it with a predisposition for evasion, mysticism, and emotionalism as adolescents and adults.. from which only a few escape." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
There is no evidence, only hearsay from followers. The pharisee's never said anything about Jesus coming back from the dead. Now that would have been a good source.
The Pharisees present never said anything against the resurrection of Jesus Christ either. That's a good source, or they could have shown the body to the people, they did indeed buried him
Just face the TRUTH that ATHEISM and RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND What is GOD's favor and reward to Atheists? ANSWER - GOD will neither reward nor punish all Atheists, instead, Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. What is GOD's favor and reward to fanatics of Religions? ANSWER - GOD will neither reward nor punish fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions, instead, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ATHEISM and RELIGIONS Who among human beings will be honored and rewarded by GOD? ANSWER - The loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" clearly written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 How will Followers of Jesus Christ live and exist on earth eternally if they just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth? ANSWER - All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 but the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Poor michael.. sitting there while Bro John is mentioning other atheists like he’s not there 😅😅😅 Love John Lennox .. such a sweet man with a tremendous intellect… wonderful man of God
I once drank wine with Michael Ruse when he visited Stellenbosch University a number of years ago. He was really genuine and inspiring. I appreciate that he is more respectful to his christian opponents than his contemporaries are.
One of the things that I think is important to keep in mind is that it's not about a lack of evidence we all have the same evidence what's more important than evidence is the interpretation of that evidence. INTERPRETATION IS THE KEY!
Like for real. I gotta go search for this. Is love to see a good logical debate. I've been trying to explain to Atheists for years that evolution is ALSO a negligee system when taken to extremes. Just look at environmentalism... gezzus
You're getting blasted in the votes. (2.5K - 1.6K currently) You've clearly touched a nerve. Keep up the good work! May He continue to give you strength and wisdom.
What I have found is that when you live for the Lord, he lives for you and that is when you truly start living. Took me a long time to realize that. I now do my best every day to let my thoughts rest upon him as much as possible and that time increases every day. He is truly with you at all times.
And THAT's the problem with religious teachings with no biblical basis. Please listen to the atheist at 8:13 minutes. Religious teachings keep many people unable to believe in The Creator's existence just because of things like that. The Creator is 100% good, love, etc.. OUTSIDE OUR DIMENSION. If you doubt it, please read out (very) loud --> Dt 28 (the entire chapter); Dt 32:39; 1Sam 2:6. In our dimension (time/space/matter), The Creator made the mechanisms, laws, and codes, and that's why HE IS NOT necessarily interfering all the time in everyone's lives. Not directly, as most of us imagine He is. The spiritual laws and mechanics are here, in this dimension, just like the water cycle, the action/reaction in nature. Religions use to teach a fantastic god that gives tons of privileges to those who are some religion members. And just because of that!!! Some are only parroting what was taught to them. Some are deliberately lying. Please, somebody, say to that atheist that, first, The Creator made man in His image and likeness, BUT men chose the other path - just like him. Second, The Creator, here in this dimension, made good and evil. So He knows evil, and now we know evil. This is, as far as I can see, His image and likeness. But not the one image and likeness it would be if the first couple had never sinned. The point is that they SHOULD sin to learn to properly value TRUST, LOVE, and FORGIVENESS, and understand what's the free will purpose.
So where do the over 5.6 billion people who are not Christians get their laws and codes from? Do Hindu get theirs from Brahma or Vishnu? Do Buddhists get theirs from Buddha? Will ant god do? Or does it have to be your one?
@@mirandahotspring4019 Hi, Miranda! I really hope you're doing marvelously well! From the same place people we can find in the Bible because they are mentioned, but they lived waaaaaaaay before Moses, the man that was used by The Almighty Creator to write the Torah (teachings), which is the first 5 books of the actual Bible. The Creator gave us "the Bible" inside us, our conscience, and I call it "His fingertips" that remain over the clay. That is, salvation is only through YESHUA in both senses. 1- The relative truth of each person. 2- The perfect one, following The Creator in the flesh In the first case, all those who are inside the religious system (anyone) or not that, sincerely, live more to do good things for others than for themselves, not expecting to get anything back, even from their gods, those are living much closer to the way YESHUA taught us than almost any religious person full of arrogance and violence. These people who used to wake up thinking about how to help others, and I am not talking about just the family, expecting not even a "thank you", are walking in The PATH. They are missing the part that is to become The Creator's family by receiving His Spirit inside them... ...but they are doing good things for the best reason. But to be totally honest with you, all religions have fragments from the TRUTH. Some, much more than others. But they all have it. YESHUA was never trying to start a new religion. In fact, His mission was to set all of us free from all of them. To live with a single motivation - care for each other with absolutely no interest in being paid at any level of material or spiritual sense. There's only ONE Creator of all things. The "gods(esses)" variety and all the religious systems are result of the mankind's preference to take different paths... I wish you the best, Miranda!
3:34 Lennox indicates that his faith in God is based on evidence... 4:14 But he only indicates as evidence that the existence of God is "perceived in things"
12:55 Brandon (motivated by Lennox) falls into the ad popolum fallacy. If many children say that Santa changed their lives and that they "saw him", then does Santa exist?
@@samuelcariaga548 That a person named Jesus is mencioned in a historical text (I'm not referring to the biased Bible) only indicates that he may have existed, but that is not evidence that he is a god. "because many people think so" Do you even know what the ad-populum fallacy is? I don't think so
@@samuelcariaga548 Nop. No, it's not "clear" my dear gullible: In addition to the fact that what the Bible relates does not have to be considered true, the doubt remains as to the veracity of the eyewitnesses: There are 4 problems with eyewitnesses: - The supposedly eyewitnesses, if they are biased (as they are believers) then they must be discarded (By the way, that is also a legal criterion). - That a historical chronicle indicates that the chronicler knew or heard an alleged witness of a resurrection is not evidence of the resurrection itself, but only of the communication. - The Bible, and this is how theologians recognize it, has no known source, therefore eyewitnesses are not guaranteed. - That a body is missing is not evidence of resurrection, it could simply have been stolen or simply the entire story was a story made by believers or they wanted to artificially elevate the image of their leader (for religious purposes or for the purposes of rebellion against the Romans)
10:11 one problem the atheist is running into with the story of Paul is he doesn’t read the rest of the story of his conversion. Paul was not just an ordinary man. He was a Pharisees of the Pharisees. That’s how he described himself. He had great zeal for the Lord that’s why he was going to exterminate Christianity. When he came face to face with a resurrected Christ, he did not immediately believe. But for three days, he was in the city, blind and fasting and praying. The man who loved God, had to reconsider who he just saw. And after considering and praying God sent someone to preach the gospel to him. Paul had a religious experience. He compared it to the evidence he had any came to Hatcher inclusion INE Christ, the problem with the atheist is not that they have not had a religious experience. It’s that they don’t want a religious experience.
Jesus has changed my life! Praise The Lord, I’m not who I was. I have been born again, and the life that I now love I life by faith in The Son of God, Who loved me, and gave Himself up for me! Hallelujah!
4:44 "If God created the universe, who created God" is such a nonsense question. It's like asking "who taught the inventor of football how to play football". No one, he's the one who created it.
Following your anology, The problem arises because there is no evidence that the "inventor of football" exists. And of course, there are those (believers of that supposed only inventor ) by faith who believe that the property rights of football belong to them. Note:Ironically, your anal ogy works against you: Soccer had no particular inventor, but rather it developed little by little (over time) and indirectly from other ball games or ancient traditions. Some say that it comes from China, others from a Mayan game, others from the French Soule, which in turn would have a British or Italian root...etc etc. So you have your evidence that your god created the universe?
@@jtapia0 sorry, I didn't notice that you ended the comment with a question. The "No." is addressed to your first two paragraphs. For your third, it literally doesn't matter. Religion isn't a relation between the believer and the unbeliever, it's a relationship between the believer and God, so you need to find God, not to wait for believers to point Him to you.
@@masscreationbroadcasts Give me evidence of that. Also, if god exists anyway, why so much propaganda, church, and indoctrination of children? Why do believers in the present debate need to publish that their god is the creator of the universe? Maybe insecurity in their own faith?
3:14 Lennox makes a false statement: Scientists do not "believe" scientific theories, but rather verify them with evidence. Love towards a wife is verifiable (there is evidence the wife exists). Lennox maliciously wants to equate "believing" in science with "believing" in a god (by faith)
Having faith in something based on evidence is belief. Belief is based on evidence. Sometimes the evidence is spurious or not well thought out (i.e. believing something because people you trust, like your parents, told it to you). Sometimes the evidence is well grounded (performing repeatable experiments that yield results that confirm or deny a theory). However that doesn’t change the fact that it is still belief in those laws/theories, just as it is belief that you believe your wife loves you. Scientists believe that past results will continue to be true into the future. There is much evidence for that. But it cannot be proven. Therefore, it is a belief. Scientists believe our senses tell us about the real natural world, but it cannot be proven. Therefore, it is a belief.
@@Laugical Nop.Faith is believing something is true without evidence. If you have evidence, then faith is not necessary. > Nope. Science is perfected day by day, with verifiable steps. This does not happen with faith. That in the past people believed it was true (from the Bible) that the earth was the center of the universe, is not true today. > Science uses the senses to collect data, but its theories are proven to be true because they adjust to the phenomena that those senses capture. The models can predict phenomena after the original data was taken, so they are consistent with each other. "Faith-sense", on the other hand, has no way of verifying whether it is in accordance with natural reality. By faith you can believe anything as true, but you have no methodology to test whether that belief is true or false.
The irony here when he makes the case that you can't ask who created god because you then assume he was created, doesn't the church consistently apply that notion to everything else in that they automatically assume it looks designed therefore a creator must exist, if only this guy could apply his own logic to things like complexity and even life itself.
12:59 - if you accept the feelings of millions as evidence for your religion, how do you rationalize that other religions that make similar claims are not true? Millions feel tht way about Vishnu, have eyes opened by Buddha, etc. It doesn't make sense.
Immediately the atheist struck me as familiar, then I remembered he's on Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed in which he advocated for life starting "on the backs of crystals" 🤣
Grew up Buddhist, became Atheist, got sucked into new age movement and believed I was my own god. I used to make fun of Christians and thought Christians were just a bunch of crazy cultist but as someone who proclaimed to live by every "religion," I felt like a hypocrite for not giving the Bible a shot. But after diving deep into the Bible and something changed within me and I tried to fight it off. I told myself "No way, I will never be Christian, Jesus was just a great teacher like the Buddha." But I was so wrong and long story short, a lot has happened ever since picking up that Bible 2 years ago and I can say that I have changed as a person and I finally understand everything about my life and just life in general. I have never found so much inner peace connecting back to God and I can proudly say that Jesus saved my life and that I love him with the new heart he has given me!
Edit: WOW! I love you all, thank you for all the kind words and support. That is why God brought me back to his family!
Just to clarify to those people who think this is fake or I am just hopping on the "band wagon," I am 34 years old and I have been on this path since I was 18 years old. I finally gave my life to Jesus when I turned 33! So it was a process to get to where I am! God is great and the Lord is my shepherd!
What a wonderful testimony! Thank you for sharing it.
Love this! ❤
Hallelujah! God is so good! Jesus is the answer ❤
We are so happy to have you in the family of God.
Thank you for sharing your journey.
Can you pinpoint a particular passage that spearheaded your conversion? What caused you to forsake all your former teachings and go all in on Jesus Christ?
I'm desperately curious, but I hope you don't mind my asking: I, too, went through atheism to come to Christ, so I'm always intrigued to meet a fellow traveler.
Please post a testimony on your YT! Even if it’s just that comment as a video! Would love to save it
Whoever asserts that the Judeo-Christian God is a created being, and thus we should ask who created God, doesn’t understand Judaism nor Christianity.
There is no such thing as judeo christianity.
Indeed.
Whoever asserts that the Judeo-Christian God is an uncreated being omnipotent and omniscient within the universe he created doesn't understand logic.
[EDIT: Many replies to this comment have misunderstood me: the Judeo-Christian God is "omnipotent and omniscient within the universe he created" but not *confined* within that universe. I used those words because, for all we know, there may be many Gods, each creating and maintaining their own universes.]
whoever asserts that the universe is a created entity, and thus we should ask who created the universe, doesn't understand the universe.
whoever asserts that the Hindu creator God is a created being, and thus we should ask who created Brahma, doesn't understand Hinduism.
whoever asserts that (insert any religion of your choice), and thus we should ask who created (insert god of your choice), doesn't understand that religion.
when you're not specializing in molecular biology, do you create mad libs???
The word itself "God" implies that there shouldn't be a higher being. One can't simply assume it could be created, let alone if the lore implies he has been around forever.
Jesus has changed my life . I fought it for too long .. Now that I have completely accepted him into my heart, everything has changed
Hallelujah! Same for me!
There is none other like Jesus 🙏✝️
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom and me...at 43 years old
@@dirkjensen969what does your comment even mean? Lol
Sounds like a cult
The debate will always get turned to Jesus because he is the way the truth and the life and there’s no way of hiding it because the TRUTH prevails.
God bless you all ❤️✝️
AMEN!
jesus is dead and that's it mate. there is no god. stop sitting on santa's knee hoping for a train set, it's not coming.
Jesus is the way to god not god 😅
Religion: A poison to society via ignorant men “making shit up,” attempting to control the simple minded through delusions of “magical sky fairies,” based on an immoral, divisive, hypocritical, bullshit theology, ripping-off billions of tax- free dollars from the gullible!
@@1sosukeaizen1
Jesus said, "l and the Father are ONE." What does this mean?
Another question: Why did the scribes and pharisees try to stone Jesus?
I have always been a natural skeptic. I grew up Anglican, rejected it as invalid at a young age, became an atheist, then evolved into a Christian based on evidence. Given enough time and an open mind, one cannot escape ultimately realizing the reality of God. Finally, that journey leads to the shocking fact that God Himself became man in the person of Jesus Christ.
What evidence convinced you?
@@friisteching3433 initially, an American Indian teacher opened my mind to spiritual beliefs. I explored religions for awhile, skeptically at first. I visited a Christian church, tried a prayer… and Jesus showed up! I got zapped like St.Paul on the road to Damascus. Since then, it’s been one proof upon miracle after another. It was all God doing it, not me.
@@MxVenator oh ok, no evidence then. Just an experience.
@@friisteching3433 No. Many, many verifiable empirical proofs. Perhaps you could share your definition of "evidence". I will try to share what I can. But, my story would fill a 700-page book.
@@MxVenator not really interested in stories, just the evidence that "then evolved into a Christian based on evidence".
Jesus has changed *my* life - and He is continuously changing *me* from the inside. Knowing Him has been the greatest adventure!
And even though I have gone through some tough things, I have always had *hope* , because of Him.
can you ask him how we get cold fusion working, cos frankly i don't believe you, if you can find the answer to the energy problem we have - which might solve hunger as a by product, then i might believe you and that there is a god, but i think you won't get the answer, or you'll make a really complex excuse (god is busy, he can't answer physics problems today) and you're full of crap.
@@HarryNicNicholas Nice, Harry.
So, God only exists if He meets *your* specific demands? What are *you* doing to alleviate child starvation?
Well, I haven't seen you "solve hunger", so should I believe *you* exist?
@@ingela_injeela
You may have noticed ,Harry does not claim to be a god. Not sure what point you believe you made there.
There are many that claim they have a relationship with jesus /god but I cannot see what the difference is between that claim and the other claims regarding what god did/does. Totally untestable claims appear to non believers as just that, claims and assertions with no corroborating evidence. I mean how do you unravel the glaring fact people of other religions speak the same as you do about their own god?
@@ARRAM57 I was using Harry's logic back at him. Just because God doesn't act the way Harry wants Him to - does it therefore mean that God doesn't exist? No.
And when Harry accuses God of not caring for starving children, I ask him what he has done about it himself.
- Because God does in fact care very much about children. And He repeatedly tells us to *take special care* of widows and *fatherless* in their need - this is in God's eyes about the most important thing we can do. So why blame God, when *we* are not doing what God told us to do?
@@ingela_injeela
The thing is, no one has seen god act .....period.
As I wrote, one claim about god or what god has done ,is no different from any other, they all lack evidence. Which goes for people claiming to have a relationship with their version of a god too.
"God cares about children" ,they are just empty words in the absence of any evidence of a god or any evidence of any actions or reaction that has a direct causal connection to your god.
A well tweaked fabricated concept that answers every question but explains nothing.
Just being honest here. I’m subbed or was subbed to quite a few channels like this, and you are by far my favorite. Keep it up brother. You do a great job.
Thanks for the encouragement! All Glory be to Christ!
What’s fascinating is that if you listen to every dialogue with an atheist and a christian, the atheist’s words are so void of life and are extremely shallow when it comes to the human condition. But the christian has something deep and profound to say about life.
So very true. That’s one of the main points which turned me. Just two different kinds of people usually and it’s clear as day.
I know this from personal experience. It is because they are stuck in love of their intellect. It is the bits of the fruit from the knowledge of good and evil. The mind is not life, the heart is, that is where Jesus resides, so that is why it sounds devoid of life. They have not connected the two. They have both, hence why so many agnositcs and atheists can not bear the suffering in the world. They are not heartless. They know there is a God, they are just angry with Him. or why would they spend so much energy focused on him? They do not beleive they will destroy Christianity with their arguement, they are argueing because they desperately want to be proved wrong.
For me science was one of the things that change my mind. The split particle experiment where the action of a particle changes based on whether it is being observed or not. So the mere act of observation changes the action of observable phenomenon. Also consider the placebo effect where beleif can change the state of cells in the human body. It's not rocket science. 😊.
Maybe most atheists just don't feel the need to philosophise about the human condition, because they are simply getting on with being alive.
I am currently listening to Christopher Hitchens's memoirs and find them to be deep, profound, and very moving in regard to the human condition. Check that one out.
@@haggismcbaggis9485 Hitchens was the one and only. That’s why across the board if you ask any Christian who they respected or liked the most in debates Hitchens will be far and away the winner for both sides. I would think Lennox makes the atheist think a little bit deeper as well as compared to Craig or some others. But that’s me b
I came to Christ about 3 years ago. I don't go to a church. Videos like yours really help keep me enagaged. Lennox is beacon when I get lost in doubt. I thank you for what you do.
A Romans 15:13 Blessing to you!
Connect yourself you need it
@@barrypeterson6725Thank you, brother!
All good. Churches will tell you otherwise but they aren't necessary to it. Good luck
@Murk_Matter Thanks for this. Can you say more? I meet with a friend once a week to study the Bible and pray. I also read the Bible daily and pray for guidance from God. I don't feel I need it until I find aporopriate people.
Thanks Brandon, another great DDOW.
Congratulations on your relentless pursuit of nuance to the Apology.
I know it’s more than a full time job & much appreciated.
why does god need apologists? doesn't he talk to you direct? isn't he "personal" or have i been lied to? why are there so many denominations of he's talking to you all?
@@HarryNicNicholas God doesn't need apologists, but they are helpful for folks trying to understand him. Seems to me that Brandon is onto something with this channel given the 630K subscribers that find his content useful or interesting.
My condensed answer to "Bad stuff; therefore, no God":
First, From the "Tree of the knowledge of good and evil" {Genesis) we are to experience both so that we, of our free will, seek our good God.
Second, we are in a temporary tent (says Paul) before we get a new body and go to one of two permanent homes. I want to be in God's home and not the one reserved for Satan.
Have you ever _directly observed_ either this 'God' or Jesus?
@@Theo_Skeptomai Amazing.
If Jerry B had to say "yes", you would not believe the answer and say a personal experience is no proof.
If the answer was "no" then you would be all over it like white on rice.
So - why ask a question that is skewed to your prejudice?
In this very video, your answer is given. If the evidence of thousands and millions of people all saying the same thing "Jesus changed my life" does not convince you, perhaps then you should seek your own "personal experience". If you don't - you're just missing out on the best thing in life. Life itself.
My answer? Bad Stuff and God can both exist in the Bible at the same time. So where did bad stuff=no God come from?
@warren6395 How do you know what I would or would not believe? Please tell me your methodology for knowing so.
@@Theo_Skeptomai By the way you asked the question, and by the question itself.
In what way am I wrong?
Hemmorrhoids are an (inflammation) signal by the body that you're damaging it by eating the wrong food. I've had hemmorrhoids my whole life and so has my dad and they went away completely when we stopped eating seed oils, sugar and processed carbs following a carnivore, aka, proper human diet.
They don't go away if you change your diet, they may however stop troubling you.
@@mirandahotspring4019 I think I know how my own butthole feels. Of course they go away. Not only is there is no such thing as an hemmorrhoid that isnt "troubling", but once you understand what it is and how a high blood sugar as well as other inflammatory compounds from corpokibble poison affect the cells in your body which generate this inflammation (immune response) it becomes self evident even without the personal anecdote. You should start your learning journey from places such as Dr Ken Berry or Dr Anthony Chafee's channels. Lots of great life changing nutritional medical info.
Hmmm...I had post-partum hemorrhoids.
Also....the world has fallen, our genes are decaying. We are NOT the beautiful physical specimens we were at Creation. I can't understand why people don't see that. The only thing that keeps us living longer in the vast majority of cases is drugs and surgery and even then, in our much-lauded longer life span we are plagued by the incurable curse of dementia.
can't you make a story about prayer and how god got rid of the bum problem you had? lots of people make a living from selling those "stories". or am i just assuming all religists are frauds?
It feels as though these days, everywhere I turn I’m met with hatred and disdain towards my faith, people calling all the points and arguments nonsense, logical fallacies, circular reasoning etc. I feel as though my people are being categorized in the same light as flat-Earthers and it’s horrible. I’m grateful for your channel that’s discussing these things thoughtfully and respectfully on both sides.
Just face the TRUTH
that
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
GOD will neither reward nor punish all Atheists,
instead,
Atheists
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
GOD will neither reward nor punish fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions,
instead,
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ATHEISM and RELIGIONS
The loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
clearly written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20
but
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
guarantees
that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
It gets darker before the dawn. But the dawn is coming 🙏❤️
Is it _possible_ that your arguments are nonsense, riddled with logical fallacies, and are circular in reasoning?
@@Theo_Skeptomai It's a good thing this person isn't gay or Muslim...
The way the bible describes the earth sounds like flat earth and that's why many flat eathers are also bible thumpers
Love what you are doing with this platform. Keep it up and God bless ❤
"...supernatural events or beings are a contradiction to metaphysical reality."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
I like how you make these subtle interactions more clear.
So tired of people saying Paul created Christianity. They clearly have not studied Paul.
Nor christianity, their is no actual evidence of paul ever being anything other than a lie on paper to justify the bible , Which cannot be justified.
Where as god been for over 65,000 years of my peoples civilisation and culture.
Show me the evidence of any god from 65,000 year ago.
Religion has one motive, to infest population's , divide them , then have war each other til very few reamina.
All in the name of a god that has no existence outside the minds of imbeciles.
That's like a pastor saying "My church". The Church belongs to Jesus. The pastors might as well say "I am Jesus".
They take any kind of argument as long they can deny that Jesus is God. If there was no Paul they will take it someone else.
To be honest though Jesus through Peter the rock he found his one true church, entrusting him with the keys to heaven and a special title still held in succession since Jesus to this day. The Catholic Church is that one true church founded by Jesus.
@@katekam8600 As I recall, Jesus said "Upon this rock, I will build my church". The rock is not Peter, but the faith in Christ being the son of God. Jesus said he will build his church, which is a possessive statement. The church belongs to Jesus because it is his work that brings it to existence: "I will build".
If you want further background whether the rock was a foundation, it can be given. Jesus gave the parable of the man who built his house upon the rock, who was like a wise man. That Jesus is the builder only means the house will be better. It is not given to n=man to be God, but man can become like God once again through the work of the Perfect One. Humanity is clearly described as fallen in Genesis.
If you're trying to say one church or another is perfect, I will say you are wrong. Jesus works with each individual heart, adding it to his kingdom. There is no corporate guarantee seen in the text as given. To see the weak nature of Peter, consider what Jesus told him prior to being betrayed: "You will deny me thrice before the cock crows".
What this atheist dude makes me think about is Romans 1. A hint of truth seeped out in his words even when though he suppresses the truth
yeah sure, we're all in denial, we'll all bend our knee, blah blah blah. it's all very predictable and just advertises how ignorant religists are.
@HarryNicNicholas you are all in denial lol. The entire thing of atheism is denial/disbelief. It's literally part of the definition. But atheists (like yourself) turn to insults because you actually don't have an argument. You just burden others with proving their point. Funny enough, atheism takes more faith than religion.
@@HarryNicNicholas Find something better to do with your time please.
@@HarryNicNicholasthe narcissism level of non believers is always off the charts
@@HarryNicNicholashave anything other than cliche nonsense that anyone can say? "Yeah sure, we're all delusional, sky daddy, sky daddy, so predictable and just advertises how ignorant and narcissistic atheists are".
Paul heard the gospel from Stephen. He is Luke's eye-witness for Acts 7. So, on the road to Damascus, Jesus telling Paul that he is persecuting Jesus changes everything for Paul. Paul is able to see Jesus is the Messiah the prophets spoke of in the Jewish scriptures.
Yes, he heard Stephen's message. But Paul believed because he had a face to face encountered with Jesus. The Man he saw died on the cross was alive having conversation with him. And Jesus made him blind.
paul had no idea what jesus looked like - did that occur to you?
@@HarryNicNicholas Paul was a Pharisee. He was a member of the Sanhedrin. The people who plotted to kill Jesus. He always testified that. And Paul spent 3 years with the resurrected Jesus in Arabia. Jesus introduced Himself to Paul in Acts 9. Paul testified he saw the resurrected Jesus in 1 Corinthians 15. Read the Bible. It is all there.
@@HarryNicNicholas 3 As he went on his way and was approaching Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?”
5 He asked, “Who are you, Lord?”
He replied, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 6 But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you need to do.”
7 The men traveling with him stood there speechless. They heard the voice but did not see anyone.
Or he had an epileptic fit.
Hemorrhoids of the gaps
"Proof" vs "Evidence" is a very important distinction to make!
"Atlas Shrugged is fiction that is presented as fiction. The bible and the Qur'an are fiction that are presented as truth. Big difference."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Dawkins himself admitted he doesnt care abkut evidence, no amount of evidence could convince him of God. That dismantles the initial reason for Atheism being lack of evidence. Its not that.
More to the point, Dawkins details what evidence wouldn't convince him that God is real.
1. Touching God.
2. Meeting Jesus face to face.
3. Stars spelling it out in multiple languages.
4. Angels leading a procession of Jesus's return.
5. Anything that leads to such conclusions should be ignored, and the science paid lipservice.
6. And ignore anything written, eyewitnessed or crowd witnessed by anyone, anywhere, ever.
I think that about summarised his stand. There's more, but that'll do where his head is at, in his own words.
No, it only questions Dawkins' reason being a lack of evidence. But if your god was real surely he'd know what evidence would convince Dawkins.
@mirandahotspring4019 God does not force others to accept Him. The evidence is only there for those who seek it, not to those who stubbornly try to refute it.
@@aaronharlow2137 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣It would seem your god is the universal hide and seek champion! I wonder why he's so shy?
@mirandahotspring4019 there was a presentation 15th December 2015 at the United Nations in front of delegates plus evidence. Look it up.
As a teacher of Religious and Moral Education in a Scottish Secondary School, I was often asked this question: "Who created God?" My response was simple: "A man in a yellow submarine." This led to the question "Who created the man in the yellow submarine." The ensuing question was answered by "A pink purple-eater." The answer to the next question was "A giant cricket bat" (which is were the "atheist" must start - with life coming from non-life). The answer to the next question was "God. Now where did this conversation start?"
The point is that, by definition, the Creator is uncreated. People who fail to understand that are totally confused!
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Do you have verifiable evidence (beyond what believers believe) of that?
As a teacher, you would therefore know you are engaging in Special Pleading.
Atheists don’t think that life comes from non life, or something. Atheism doesn’t say anything of the sort.
Youre just making up excuses for it being able to provide evidence for your absurd claims. Don’t be mad at the atheist. That’s not my fault.
I see why you teach theology instead of…something REAL like a REAL educator does.
Wow, how convenient it is that the creator was not created. Simple and straightforward solution. Ingenious.
@@sitornyIK
If the creator was created then we'll have to go on and on and on endlessly.
But that's impossible. If there were infinite days before today, we'll never have gotten here.
Which implies there definitely is a beginning and that beginning is not a created.
11:48
Lennox establishes that science does not have the means to test certain phenomena directly, so it must infer its methods.
The above is true, but unlike faith, the models that science establishes by inference can be tested and must be consistent with the results and must predict data subsequent to the inference.
Does evolution is included in that model?
@@JonathanVachon777 Yes. But you have to understand that this theory does not have "results" (say, mathematical) but rather fossil and genetic evidence that confirm it.
God Bless
Thank you!
This gave me 2 great "aha's". Thanks for digging through all the content that is out there in apologetics and bringing it to us with comments. Keep up the Good Work.
The happiest atheist I've ever met. If more atheists were like him, I'd have more difficulty with my faith. When I was low on faith, the one thing that kept me from losing it all was just simply what utter miserable people atheists were. But my faith is growing again and it's no longer an issue.
Good . Stay the course.
"...the idea that religion, something unreal and un-provable, is the answer is certainly not valid."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Brothers and sisters.
Please pray for me. For about 15 years I have been struggling with debilitating sickness that's made my life unberable. I am in my mid 30s and would love to still have strength to serve my Savior and Lord.
Jesus is my Healer. Thank you all 🙏🏻
Please also pray that God grants me strength to go through this valley with humility and thankfulness.
@@777Witness prayers friend 🙏🏼
"...watching the United States become increasingly influenced by Christ-centered politics troubles me. The dystopian future depicted in Atlas Shrugged becomes more easily imaginable. And it is for this reason that I dread the fact that so few people I've met have ever even heard of Ayn Rand, let alone have enough understanding of her work to make a judgement about it."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
I thought for a second JL was going the moral argument but no just asserts the truth of reality. Followers of Christ been existing for a min, I’m one I’m changed I know Him
@jaybo420 you nailed it. He just asserts a claim. No evidence to back up said claim
"Objectivism for example provides a source Certainty and Principled thinking."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Was born a Catholic. Stayed that way for 16 years, then with the introduction of modern science and propaganda, I became an atheist and transitioned to an agnostic for another 16 years.
At 33 years, I found the evidence for Christianity irrefutable. The engineer in me couldn't deny it with all the science at my disposal. And so I accepted Christ as my Lord and Saviour.
I saw an exBuddhist in this comment section who also coincidentally converted at age 33 and felt I'd share my similar experience.
7:07 If I understand what he is saying, what I am hearing is: He is arguing that Christians use confirmation bias.
Obviously, Christians would disagree. We don’t find evidence to prove a claim we have made up in our minds. The empty tomb, and Jesus appearing to his apostles IS evidence that Jesus is who he displayed himself to be. The apostles, and Mary did not use confirmation bias to seek positive evidence for a claim they were trying to create. The evidence came to them, literally.
Please understand that distinction. The apostles, and a couple of woman did not actively search for evidence to prove a claim, the evidence came to them.
I find it hard to believe the source. You don't have "Jesus appearing to his apostles", you have gospels saying Jesus appeared to them.
Thier words could be wrong.
Romans did not usually give out criminals a proper tomb, but instead discarded in mass graves. Why should the gospel be believed when it goes against what we know of Roman tradition?
@@friisteching3433 you don't know enough about Roman history. They often respected burial rights of other cultures. Especially in the far flung sections of the empire. For multiple reasons - not the least of which was simply pragmatic. Religeon and governance goes hand in hand. Even today: and You don't want an entire occupied culture rebelling cuz you didn't let them buttery their dead.
This event in particular was Quite the Ordeal and considered an 'internal matter' of the Jews.. ie. It was a high profile case just like ours today when such trials happen. Also he wasn't a criminal of Rome - he was a criminal of the Jews for being a heretic. The Roman's were merely the executioner since they were the local government. It was the jews that wanted him strung up and this the're again.. an internal matter and what they do with the body is no concern of theirs. So much so they even hastened the crucifixion by stabbing the man so that they could start their rites before sunset.
This was quite common for other religions to have their burial rites respected in many cases especially outside of lowgrade common-criminals.
@@glytchd we are not having a "respecting burial rights", but a punishment of a criminal.
Assuming that any of it actually happened. I find it far more plausible that Jesus passed out and was whisked away tp be healed. Then disguised himself to flee the area but saw some old friends as he was on the road.
Loving prayers and blessings in Jesus name! 🙏💪☝️ May Yahowah bless you and yours!
Thank you! 🙏❤️
why? do you think god has missed these folks?
I love your channel! Keep doing the great work you are doing.
Atlas Shrugged came significantly later in my exposure to Objectivist literature. It is only as of late that I am gaining an appreciation for some of the more subtle intricacies of Miss Rand's nuances.
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Nothing quite like having comments instantly deleted by TH-cam. This platform sucks.
As you are aware, the AI filtering will intensify.
At the rate it's going I'm starting to try and figure out what "trigger words" it doesn't like.
@@pcdeltalink036 it seems there is a bias toward normal, truth and morality.
In the christian channels the channel owners work hard to delete all the comments that bring their beliefs into question. As we know religion does not stand up to scrutiny.
@@MrSouthernlord I do not think it is the channel owners manually deleting comments as I literally have been able to reload the page and find my comment gone. This has also happened across multiple channels. No, I think TH-cam clearly has something that detects certain words/phrases and deletes them the second they post.
I don't understand why you have so many dislikes lately. Your videos are insightful as always
Because they are irrational.
11:05
Lennox presents "personal evidence" that he, by believing in God, has "peace", "forgiveness" and "new life"... and that this has also happened to many people....
That is, subjective bias and ad popolum "evidence"...
its also evidence other religions are true as their adherents have experiences.
@@downshift4503 For "sure" not only for religions; Santa also exists because the experiences of many children
@@jtapia0 He certainly changed my life when I got presents, what more proof do you need?
@@downshift4503 🤣
That is the reason every man must work out his own salvation. We can't just rely on other experiences. We are to testify of what God has done in our own lives. Then it is up to you what to do with that information. Paul even states that we must test everything and hold fast to that which proves true. There is a reason the scientific method came from biblical concepts. God is not afraid to be put to the test.
If you're going to ask "Who created God?" You also have to ask "Who created the 'Proto pebble'?" which exploded and became the universe.
People devote their careers to trying to understand that.
Not necessarily. THere are models in physics where quantum fields, for example, have always existed.
@@jsmall10671 - REALLY!? - How do you want to know?
Fasting, praying, and seeking the lord is a Christian’s science experiment you can test it out for God said seek me and you will find me
If you do enough fasting you'll probably be so hungry you'll see Jesus 🤣
@@John75Mulhern you are aware that there is fast you can do that doesn’t exclude eating like fasting from things you do or entertain that you give a lot of time to and instead spend time with God
"I direct you toward Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand. In her system, she identifies the needs of men succinctly. She talks about individualism, productivity, a flourishing life, an exchange of physical and emotional values between men. Importantly, she provides reasoning to substantiate her claims."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Truth is an asymptote. The right of the line ignorance. The left knowledge. Doesn't matter whether you are crossing the street or accessing your soul you divide ignorance by 2. Then again by 2 and so on. The line never touches the x-axis so you never achieve full knowledge. But at some point you are satisfied enough to act.
"Objectivism isn't based on belief, rather it is based on Objective reality."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
@@BeefT-Sq Do you believe that?
11:38 John Lennox's point about an inference to the best explanation can be overlooked, but it seems to be a powerful way to approach historical events. Dr. Stephen Meyer discusses this in his book, Return of the God Hypothesis.
13:13
False estate
That Jesus supposedly "revived" does not necessarily imply that he "defeated death" (as if he were a supernatural god). There are several alternatives that are still seen daily today:
- Was misdiagnosed dead
- He suffered from catalapesia
- It was a later invention by the editors to give more power to the Christian movement (a fact that has happened in other religions).
Brandon wants to establish that the resurrection must be true because it "gives hope to humanity to transcend death"...but of course, this is just a believing claim, not evidence.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the MOCKERS, HATERS, and SLANDERERS of GOD and JESUS CHRIST
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
KNOW
and are fully aware that they unitedly -
1. mock and degrade the Bible as just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies and fairy tales.
2. dishonor the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ and slander him as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
3. dishonor Jesus Christ and slander him as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by his GOD and Father all authority in heaven and on earth.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the LIARS, DECEIVERS, and MURDERERS of HUMAN BEINGS
Atheists
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
and
the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The BIBLE is the ONLY BOOK in the world
that produces all the LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE PERSONS on EARTH
GOD KNOWS
that imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ
and obey his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
in their obedience to all that were written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are clearly
the loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
is
GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 Just another cheap religious propaganda, with zero evidence
Lennox misunderstands the premise of “who created God?”
You have to establish that God wasn’t created. Just saying he wasn’t created isn’t enough. You have to give a grounding for that assertion.
If you can’t answer “how do you know God isn’t created?” Then you can’t assert that he isn’t created
Lennox and many apologists seem to think that making assertions is all you need to do.
Logically infinite regression is nonsense, so there is no need to even address the point. Why should Lennox have to address a self refuting argument?
@@Gorpmeat it’s not an infinite regression. You don’t understand what time is.
Also, to avoid an infinite regression you can’t just say “it stops here!” You need to give a reason why
@@arthursworld7302 Yes it is an infinite regression. You are constantly going "Who created God? Ok, then who created the being above that? And the being above that?" By assuming a creator at all for God you get into this complete logical nonsense. God, by definition of being God, is already the end. The final stop. There is no one above him or he wouldn't be God to begin with.
@@pcdeltalink036
1. I’m not assuming an infinite regression. I’m not assuming anything and I’m ok with saying “I don’t know,” because I’d rather be correct than certain but incorrect.
All creation, every act, is understood as a change over time. Before this, now that.
But The Big Bang is the beginning of time as we understand it. Our understanding of everything breaks down before the moment of the Big Bang. There can be no creation without a change over time, which needs time to exist but there is no time.
So what could have caused the Big Bang?
1. A creator god
2. Another natural process similar to a multiverse concept
3. A constant repetition of expanding and contracting of the same universe.
4. Something else that hasn’t occurred to me (who am I to say I’m capable of coming up with all the possible answers?)
2. You’re claiming that a creator God is the beginning of everything. Here are the issues with that.
2.1 how do you know which god it is that is the creator god?
since there are many competing ideas of god. Only one can be true or they can all be false. Those are the two options.
2.2 how do you know that the buck ends with your god and that it doesn’t end with another God that created him, but is not expressed in the Bible?
2.3 what’s the problem with saying “I don’t know. But I’ll make a conclusion after I see more conclusive evidence.”?
What you guys are doing are just arbitrarily saying “this god is where the buck stops because it makes sense to me. I must be right.”
Don’t you see how I arrogant that is? Why not be humble and accept that this is beyond our current understandings as humans?
Or would you rather be certain but incorrect over being correct?
When I accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior, my happiness increased.
You are just deluding yourself.
Saying that I am deluding myself is exactly what I would expect satan to say. Thank you for confirming my faith is not misguided. Satan, is that you?
@@messertl Yes, it is Satan. I am sitting here with Zeus,
Thor,Superman, Spiderman, the Flash and Santa Claus. We are having a big laugh at God and his gullible sheep followers as I am more powerful than him. That is why he only helps star sportsmen and top actors rather than people that really need help.
Wall of text = gamma soy boy.
@messertl Moron. You beliefs are fantasy.
Paul meeting Jesus was the Big Bang.
It is juat a story in your book of lies.
@@MrSouthernlord Search for biogenesis
@@MrSouthernlordit’s funny that you use the same response that flat earthers do.
@@frankyanish4833 he probably hasn't read the Bible to begin with.
@@MrSouthernlord You gonna find out after you depart this world.
Remember God of Christians is love and there is no harm in loving him and experiencing his goodness. Rather than ignoring and at the end embarrassing whom he warned us about.
You have nothing to lose Being a Christian.
These debates are so edifying. Fascinated with deep thinkers.
Jesus absolutely changed my life ❤️ praise God 🙏✝️
You changed your life. Jesus and God are just a delusion of your mind.
@@MrSouthernlord bless you
Love your content bro
Thanks bro!
Great video. Thank you for sharing, brother!
"when i embrace crazy it makes me feel good" isn't testing anything
I don't think that is the argument being made.
@@ENoob it's exactly the argument that is being made at 11:00. How is it different?
@@ENoob glad you've seen the light
My dad told me my whole life that God spoke to him.. allot of people thought my dad was crazy, I know that he was not. I believe my father and I believe what he taught me about God.. he proved his integrity to me personally
Why did you believe that about your father?
If there is a more integral person than your father who says that Santa exists, then does Santa exist?
@@jtapia0
Nobody expect from you to believe in a God, neither didn't anybody at any time forced you to be a christian.
But here you are expecting from us to rather picked your picture while you have zero self experience whether these things are true or not. And as a result of that, all your mambo jumbo at their best is just your opinion, that is all
@@nonconformist4802But christianity is forced upon us. In less. In schools. In work etc
The funny thing about the title of this video is that it's the Christian, not the atheist, who accidentally refutes the argument for God's existence. As Maddox asserts starting here, 5:00, asking the question "who created X" presupposes that X was created. He seems to realize that the same falacious reasoning applies to the Christian mantra that "if God doesn't exist, then who created the universe?" This ofcourse similarly presupposes that the Universe had to be "created".
I was thinking the same thing.
Another great video. Thanks for presenting these.
You're doing great! I sometime use your videos in my Theology class.
14:14
false argument
Just because meeting someone "changes your life" does not imply that that person is necessarily a supernatural god.
The same way that you find your meaning in life through diving into vices and drowning in pleasures that the world has to offer just to get by and make your life feel "unique".
@@danyaelpecson557 Yep. There was a chance that Paul was drugged on the way to Damascus.
The key to why this is relevant is in who Paul was and who he became:
Paul (at the time called Saul) was a devout Jewish Pharisee that considered Christians to be blasphemers and he persecuted and attacked Christians for their beliefs. He was in a position of power and wealth, set up to be an influential figure in his society for life.
Why in the world would someone like that have a complete change of heart and start proclaiming the gospel to the point of being stripped of his status and wealth, thrown in prison, and eventually killed all because he claimed to have seen Christ risen from the dead? Perhaps he actually saw the risen Christ?
Not only him, but many others over a period of 40 days including 500 Jews at one single time saw Jesus risen from the dead. And that is only one of many evidences. The truth is that Jesus Christ is risen and he loves us, put your faith in him and be saved!
@@Gorpmeat
If he existed, and that change occurred, no one knows for sure.
- It could be because he hallucinated and went crazy.
- He could have been in a fragile moment and simply adopted that as true because it made him feel better or special.
- It may be that he was misunderstood
- It was a story invented later by biased believers.
That is to say, there are many possible explanations, and more reasonable ones, than appealing to a supernatural being.
As I told you at the beginning, no one knows for sure, but if believers want to establish the evidence of Paul's change as the extraordinary intervention of a god, then they must show extraordinary verifiable evidence.
Your other paragraph is ad-popolum.
Keep in mind that the Bible was written long after the supposed miracles, and edited by obviously biased believers. Not very different from the heroic wonders of powerful warriors that their people tell as true to increase national pride.
The fact that the person was once dead and is now alive speaking to you might hint that it's God...
Josh McDowell books!
1.The logic of faith!
2. Evidence that demands a verdict.
Not a blind leap in the unknown!!!
Have YOU read those books?
@@Theo_Skeptomai And what's the point of your comment lol? Just to argue?
@@Theo_Skeptomai
Yeah I did !!
Have you heard his name before???
Have you watched the video fully and attentively???
It seems you are irrelevant!!!
Wonderful discussion. Every believer whose faith in Christ impacts life is the evidence that Jesus lives and we serve the living God. Impacts their life is
Thats not evidence. All of you are evidence for delusion tho
One of my favorite songs from Katie Nichole is called. I am living proof why I love that song because I am living proof that God is real. He has taken all my addictions, giving me peace of mind, free from anxieties and worry I don’t know how people can’t believe. When someone like me used to drink, smoke, drugs, whatever I wanted most of my life and the second I started praying to Jesus it all went away. he’s right it’s not just me people being physically healed all the time all around the world. What will make these unbelievers believe?
God has to do it. They are literally dead unless He causes them to search for Him, but as long as they have a pulse they have the possibility. The answer is they should humble themselves to see if they are of the elect and read his Word and go to a Bible teaching Church. God will cause them to conform to His image if they are His. ❤
And if someone else become a Muslim or a buddhist or a Zoroastrian for the same reason, does that prove they are correct in their interpretation of the supernatural?
"Though I understand that there may be various other factors, I think if you remove religion from the equation, comparatively one may nurture a more courageous child. Perhaps a rational one too, if the concept of life as the most important 'value' is well understood."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Chuck missler explains the evidence of Christ very well through the bible
" Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
But Paul never met a physical Jesus ??? There is no eye witness testimony at all.
Currently world wide humans worship 700 different gods, goddesses, gurus and cult leaders.
Shows the gullibility and need for many t just follow something and be part of a gang/cult. Very sad & destructive.
Many Christians didn't meet the physical Jesus but they believed. Many also believed Jesus because they meet the risen Christ so they believed. I'm one of those who meet the risen Jesus.I meet Him yet I still doubt it.But I had many more encounters with Him so there's nothing I can do but to believe because Christ didn't stop to convince me He is the Son of God.
Your point? Can have 700 fake copies of a rolex and still have an original rolex
@@JonathanVachon777
Yes indeed & watches are real.
Gods are invented and NONE have been presented only claimed. Therefore, can be dismissed until evidence is provided. This is the rational position.
@@stultusvenator3233 prove me energy exist
@@JonathanVachon777
Sure I typed this using energy. DONE.
Energy is defined as the “ability to do work, which is the ability to exert a force causing displacement of an object.” Despite this confusing definition, its meaning is very simple: energy is just the force that causes things to move. Like pressing a key.
Am I to blame for not having faith? I can't force myself to believe in anything, either I do, or I don't. It isn't a conscious decision.
@alexhansford2459 - You are responsible for suppressing in ungodliness and unrighteousness the knowledge of God, that you have, like every other human creature (Romans 1, 18-25).
@@Morewecanthink "Ayn Rand distinguishes her philosophy as one that celebrates the cerebral; she acknowledged man's mind as the ultimate source of man's achievement."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
@@BeefT-Sq - And what then was her foundation within her own worldview for her attempt to ascribe to the arbitrary results of the arbitrary electrical impulses of the arbitrary chemical processes of her purposeless random brain any significance? - Doing so (distinguishing her philosophy as one that celebrates ...) she was only confirming what she denied being not able not to presuppose the Truth of what she denied.
Jud 1,18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Thank you for your excellent teaching and commentary breaking down these arguments and expanding on it. Thanks Bro!
Jesus has changed my life.
Hallelujah!
"Motivation, reason, and morality need not be based on faith."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
It's always refreshing listening to John Lennox. Michael Ruse always tries to separate himself from Dawkins and the rest because he sees them as shallow!
He’s a strange dude lol
@@corning1 Charitable and intelligent!
I just love him to pieces! his brain, his heart and his voice. I love listening to him.
The atheist in this debate is just a poor debater. He opens up opportunities for Lennox to capitalize on. However, Saul/Paul didn't 'meet Jesus', he had a vision, a hallucination, a dream, brought on by any of a number of things. Perhaps an excess of wine, perhaps too little water and too much sun, whatever, combined with his history of abusing Christians. Such things happen to people even today, they hit a moment in their lives they realize they need to change and they make a change. And a religious zealot is going to continue to be a zealot, but they might change teams. Much like a recovering addict (a kind of zealotry) will become a very annoyingly dedicated religious person depending on which religious group helped him through his addiction recovery process.
And the creation aspect in this discussion is similar, the atheist on stage made a very poor presentation for what is essentially the problem of evil. If evil exists your god cannot. Christians have a number of responses to this beat into them, ranging from 'mysterious ways' to 'who said god is always loving' to 'god allows evil to help us grow'. None of which make sense but those are examples of common responses. And I say they don't make sense because in a system where you have an all powerful, all knowing god setting things up there is no need for humans to learn through such pain and hardship, it could simply imbue us with the needed knowledge and skills and disciplines from the start. We don't build cars such that they need to hit a few curbs in just the right way before they will go down the street properly.
So this debate is simply Lennox getting handed an opponent that isn't very good at what he does. Debating is a skill, this is like the sign behind them says, just a conversation, one that appears to be sest up to make Lennox seem like a genius. Let's see how he does against someone else, like Sam Harris perhaps, or Stephen Fry. We lost Hitchens who would have sent Lennox away in tears.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS are OPPOSED and AGAINST the BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST
Atheists
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
and the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
and
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST are OPPOSED and AGAINST ATHEISM and RELIGIONS
The loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
clearly written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
is
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of Religions
but
GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
John Lennox actually debated Hitchens before and did not in fact go away in tears.
@@Laugical Well I found this: th-cam.com/video/jB6BTb8Dinw/w-d-xo.html Which is referencing a debate in Edinborough. There was some kind of audience vote and they sided with Lennox but even Lennox says in this clip to not put any stock in such votes.
Hitchens remained an atheist though so clearly he was not convinced.
Even so, I was not aware these two had faced off, but my only impressions from the Lennox talks I have seen is he is something of a panderer, and a bit of a greased pig in terms of being skillful at not allowing himself to get pinned down.
Debates are funny things, They aren't about sorting out the truth, they are all about strategy, facts and truth are optional.
If you accept the Biblical testimony of Paul's meeting with Christ, Paul was blinded at the meeting of Christ and regained his sight when he met with the person that Christ told him to meet.
So, it's not so simple as him having a hallucination, or being dehydrated or drunk.
Either it happens as stated or the testimony is a complete falsehood
@@avi8r66 it’s funny how now that you know Hitchens and Lennox had a debate they are now not about finding truth or facts. If that is the case then what is the point in bringing up the idea of Hitchens debating Lennox in the first place? What does Hitchens in theory being a better debater have to do with the truth at all if truth is not found in debates?
Jesus said “my sheep know my voice “ we are not to argue vain senseless subjects. If a person is dead set against God then God isn’t dealing with them. There are plenty of people who are open to the truth of God.
Kudos to John Lennox. Christianity is just a logical and an intelligent way to live this life. Jesus bless us all to our journey to salvation.✝️🙏✌💞
"Personally, I look forward to the day that religion is merely a matter of historical reference."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Faith supported by reasoning.
"Indoctrination of children by parents and care givers, school teachers etc. during the formative years of cognition subvert the natural inclination toward reason and understanding from experience i.e. reality, and replace it with a predisposition for evasion, mysticism, and emotionalism as adolescents and adults.. from which only a few escape."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
There is no evidence, only hearsay from followers. The pharisee's never said anything about Jesus coming back from the dead. Now that would have been a good source.
The Pharisees present never said anything against the resurrection of Jesus Christ either. That's a good source, or they could have shown the body to the people, they did indeed buried him
Just face the TRUTH
that
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS bring the DISHONOR, HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
What is GOD's favor and reward to Atheists?
ANSWER -
GOD will neither reward nor punish all Atheists,
instead,
Atheists
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
What is GOD's favor and reward to fanatics of Religions?
ANSWER -
GOD will neither reward nor punish fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions,
instead,
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The BIBLE, GOD, and JESUS CHRIST HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ATHEISM and RELIGIONS
Who among human beings will be honored and rewarded by GOD?
ANSWER -
The loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
clearly written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
How will Followers of Jesus Christ live and exist on earth eternally if they just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth?
ANSWER -
All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20
but
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
guarantees
that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@captainkrajick
Who said they buried him? Who said the body was still where they left it if they did? A missing corpse doesn't mean resurrection.
@@captainkrajick The point is there is no mention for or against. The Romans were the ones responsible, and they made no mention one way or the other.
Paul was literally a Pharisee who encountered Jesus lmao
Except Paul did NOT meet Jesus in any form.
I love this video and some of the commentary you made. God bless you!
Fantastic commentary on this section of debate. Very edifying.
Amen. Praise God for He actively seeks after His own.
Poor michael.. sitting there while Bro John is mentioning other atheists like he’s not there 😅😅😅 Love John Lennox .. such a sweet man with a tremendous intellect… wonderful man of God
I once drank wine with Michael Ruse when he visited Stellenbosch University a number of years ago. He was really genuine and inspiring. I appreciate that he is more respectful to his christian opponents than his contemporaries are.
One of the things that I think is important to keep in mind is that it's not about a lack of evidence we all have the same evidence what's more important than evidence is the interpretation of that evidence. INTERPRETATION IS THE KEY!
Where can I see the full video?
Could you put the link to the original video in the description?
No, that wouldn't be helpful for the narrative
Like for real. I gotta go search for this. Is love to see a good logical debate. I've been trying to explain to Atheists for years that evolution is ALSO a negligee system when taken to extremes.
Just look at environmentalism... gezzus
@@glytchd what do you think negligee means?
This channel is awesome 👏
You're getting blasted in the votes. (2.5K - 1.6K currently) You've clearly touched a nerve. Keep up the good work! May He continue to give you strength and wisdom.
What I have found is that when you live for the Lord, he lives for you and that is when you truly start living. Took me a long time to realize that. I now do my best every day to let my thoughts rest upon him as much as possible and that time increases every day. He is truly with you at all times.
And THAT's the problem with religious teachings with no biblical basis. Please listen to the atheist at 8:13 minutes.
Religious teachings keep many people unable to believe in The Creator's existence just because of things like that.
The Creator is 100% good, love, etc.. OUTSIDE OUR DIMENSION.
If you doubt it, please read out (very) loud --> Dt 28 (the entire chapter); Dt 32:39; 1Sam 2:6.
In our dimension (time/space/matter), The Creator made the mechanisms, laws, and codes, and that's why HE IS NOT necessarily interfering all the time in everyone's lives. Not directly, as most of us imagine He is.
The spiritual laws and mechanics are here, in this dimension, just like the water cycle, the action/reaction in nature.
Religions use to teach a fantastic god that gives tons of privileges to those who are some religion members. And just because of that!!! Some are only parroting what was taught to them. Some are deliberately lying.
Please, somebody, say to that atheist that, first, The Creator made man in His image and likeness, BUT men chose the other path - just like him. Second, The Creator, here in this dimension, made good and evil. So He knows evil, and now we know evil.
This is, as far as I can see, His image and likeness. But not the one image and likeness it would be if the first couple had never sinned.
The point is that they SHOULD sin to learn to properly value TRUST, LOVE, and FORGIVENESS, and understand what's the free will purpose.
So where do the over 5.6 billion people who are not Christians get their laws and codes from? Do Hindu get theirs from Brahma or Vishnu?
Do Buddhists get theirs from Buddha? Will ant god do? Or does it have to be your one?
@@mirandahotspring4019 Hi, Miranda!
I really hope you're doing marvelously well!
From the same place people we can find in the Bible because they are mentioned, but they lived waaaaaaaay before Moses, the man that was used by The Almighty Creator to write the Torah (teachings), which is the first 5 books of the actual Bible.
The Creator gave us "the Bible" inside us, our conscience, and I call it "His fingertips" that remain over the clay.
That is, salvation is only through YESHUA in both senses.
1- The relative truth of each person.
2- The perfect one, following The Creator in the flesh
In the first case, all those who are inside the religious system (anyone) or not that, sincerely, live more to do good things for others than for themselves, not expecting to get anything back, even from their gods, those are living much closer to the way YESHUA taught us than almost any religious person full of arrogance and violence.
These people who used to wake up thinking about how to help others, and I am not talking about just the family, expecting not even a "thank you", are walking in The PATH. They are missing the part that is to become The Creator's family by receiving His Spirit inside them...
...but they are doing good things for the best reason.
But to be totally honest with you, all religions have fragments from the TRUTH.
Some, much more than others. But they all have it.
YESHUA was never trying to start a new religion. In fact, His mission was to set all of us free from all of them. To live with a single motivation - care for each other with absolutely no interest in being paid at any level of material or spiritual sense.
There's only ONE Creator of all things.
The "gods(esses)" variety and all the religious systems are result of the mankind's preference to take different paths...
I wish you the best, Miranda!
You look like an IRL version of Mario and Luigi's blue triplet. 😮😂
Love you, bro. ✌️
3:34
Lennox indicates that his faith in God is based on evidence...
4:14
But he only indicates as evidence that the existence of God is "perceived in things"
12:55
Brandon (motivated by Lennox) falls into the ad popolum fallacy.
If many children say that Santa changed their lives and that they "saw him", then does Santa exist?
Man, Historically Jesus existed, and you are using the “false analogy fallacy”.
@@samuelcariaga548 That a person named Jesus is mencioned in a historical text (I'm not referring to the biased Bible) only indicates that he may have existed, but that is not evidence that he is a god. "because many people think so"
Do you even know what the ad-populum fallacy is?
I don't think so
@@jtapia0 according to legal criteria; eye witnesses, hundreds testifying the same, evidence (absent body), it’s clear the resurrection.
@@samuelcariaga548 Nop. No, it's not "clear" my dear gullible:
In addition to the fact that what the Bible relates does not have to be considered true, the doubt remains as to the veracity of the eyewitnesses:
There are 4 problems with eyewitnesses:
- The supposedly eyewitnesses, if they are biased (as they are believers) then they must be discarded (By the way, that is also a legal criterion).
- That a historical chronicle indicates that the chronicler knew or heard an alleged witness of a resurrection is not evidence of the resurrection itself, but only of the communication.
- The Bible, and this is how theologians recognize it, has no known source, therefore eyewitnesses are not guaranteed.
- That a body is missing is not evidence of resurrection, it could simply have been stolen or simply the entire story was a story made by believers or they wanted to artificially elevate the image of their leader (for religious purposes or for the purposes of rebellion against the Romans)
10:11 one problem the atheist is running into with the story of Paul is he doesn’t read the rest of the story of his conversion. Paul was not just an ordinary man. He was a Pharisees of the Pharisees. That’s how he described himself. He had great zeal for the Lord that’s why he was going to exterminate Christianity. When he came face to face with a resurrected Christ, he did not immediately believe. But for three days, he was in the city, blind and fasting and praying. The man who loved God, had to reconsider who he just saw. And after considering and praying God sent someone to preach the gospel to him. Paul had a religious experience. He compared it to the evidence he had any came to Hatcher inclusion INE Christ, the problem with the atheist is not that they have not had a religious experience. It’s that they don’t want a religious experience.
5:47 “Who created your Creator?” 🔥
What’s the name of Tom’s book?
Jesus has changed my life! Praise The Lord, I’m not who I was. I have been born again, and the life that I now love I life by faith in The Son of God, Who loved me, and gave Himself up for me! Hallelujah!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤may GOD bless you❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
What makes evil evil and not merely dangerous is malice, the choice to willfully cause harm.
4:44 "If God created the universe, who created God" is such a nonsense question. It's like asking "who taught the inventor of football how to play football". No one, he's the one who created it.
Following your anology, The problem arises because there is no evidence that the "inventor of football" exists. And of course, there are those (believers of that supposed only inventor ) by faith who believe that the property rights of football belong to them.
Note:Ironically, your anal ogy works against you: Soccer had no particular inventor, but rather it developed little by little (over time) and indirectly from other ball games or ancient traditions. Some say that it comes from China, others from a Mayan game, others from the French Soule, which in turn would have a British or Italian root...etc etc.
So you have your evidence that your god created the universe?
@@jtapia0 sorry, I didn't notice that you ended the comment with a question. The "No." is addressed to your first two paragraphs.
For your third, it literally doesn't matter. Religion isn't a relation between the believer and the unbeliever, it's a relationship between the believer and God, so you need to find God, not to wait for believers to point Him to you.
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@@jtapia0 God exists whether or not believers say He does or not. Also, it's amazing how you can quote me and ignore the point I made in the quote.
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Give me evidence of that.
Also, if god exists anyway, why so much propaganda, church, and indoctrination of children?
Why do believers in the present debate need to publish that their god is the creator of the universe?
Maybe insecurity in their own faith?
3:14
Lennox makes a false statement:
Scientists do not "believe" scientific theories, but rather verify them with evidence.
Love towards a wife is verifiable (there is evidence the wife exists).
Lennox maliciously wants to equate "believing" in science with "believing" in a god (by faith)
Having faith in something based on evidence is belief. Belief is based on evidence. Sometimes the evidence is spurious or not well thought out (i.e. believing something because people you trust, like your parents, told it to you). Sometimes the evidence is well grounded (performing repeatable experiments that yield results that confirm or deny a theory). However that doesn’t change the fact that it is still belief in those laws/theories, just as it is belief that you believe your wife loves you. Scientists believe that past results will continue to be true into the future. There is much evidence for that. But it cannot be proven. Therefore, it is a belief. Scientists believe our senses tell us about the real natural world, but it cannot be proven. Therefore, it is a belief.
@@Laugical Nop.Faith is believing something is true without evidence.
If you have evidence, then faith is not necessary.
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Nope. Science is perfected day by day, with verifiable steps. This does not happen with faith.
That in the past people believed it was true (from the Bible) that the earth was the center of the universe, is not true today.
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Science uses the senses to collect data, but its theories are proven to be true because they adjust to the phenomena that those senses capture. The models can predict phenomena after the original data was taken, so they are consistent with each other.
"Faith-sense", on the other hand, has no way of verifying whether it is in accordance with natural reality. By faith you can believe anything as true, but you have no methodology to test whether that belief is true or false.
@@Laugical Scientists are ready to bin their theories when better explanations come along.
The irony here when he makes the case that you can't ask who created god because you then assume he was created, doesn't the church consistently apply that notion to everything else in that they automatically assume it looks designed therefore a creator must exist, if only this guy could apply his own logic to things like complexity and even life itself.
Do you have a link to this debate?
Yes, in the description!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomNot seeing it.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Perhaps you meant to add it, but it's not there...
Don't forget, to have "confidence" in something is to have faith based off evidence. Confidence from the Latin: con fide... "with faith".
All Glory to God! Thanks for the video.
15:04 for some reason I was thinking about the spider man actor😭
Dude! You quoted Hopkins! You are my man!
12:59 - if you accept the feelings of millions as evidence for your religion, how do you rationalize that other religions that make similar claims are not true? Millions feel tht way about Vishnu, have eyes opened by Buddha, etc. It doesn't make sense.
Well presented. Many thanks!
Immediately the atheist struck me as familiar, then I remembered he's on Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed in which he advocated for life starting "on the backs of crystals" 🤣