Thanks Mike. What a big surprise for all of us that is in the sad case of this guy! LOL! Thank you for your amazing and painstakingly good research work! We appreciate it!
Wow, I can't believe it. Claiming that the Game Changers Movie is cherry picking their studies and then "randomly selecting" a study that's not even there... Unbelievable. Thank you Mic!
It was suspect that dude runs “Real Doctor” in all his titles but he’s a chiropractor. I know they are real doctors but most people would assume “REAL DOCTOR” = MD
YES THIS IS TRUE and I didn't even mention it. Just like Eric BERG. Real doctor is true technically but people assume it's a medical doctor when you say that. Standard.
Red Pill Vegan thanks for acknowledging that we are real doctors. When people simply dismiss a chiro for being a chiro it kills me, most are idiots anyways there’s plenty of other reasons to dismiss them rather than stopping to just saying they are a chiropractor 😂
Jessy Glaub - Sadly I was GREATLY misled by a chiropractor back about 6 years ago in terms of nutrition. It soured my taste for them. But when I injured my neck I took a recommendation from a friend and went back (to a completely different practice) and can not say anything bad about the profession except that the nature of our health crisis has led a lot of them to offering weight loss services - which, when combined with the supplement sales that go along with it - often make up the majority of their revenue. But I can’t blame them... people come and want weight loss. No One knows who to trust or what to eat, the American public is confused and nutritionally confounded by conflicting messages.
I think this guy is actually a "wholistic doctor", which is a step up from a chiropractor (7 years of education instead of 4) but still not a medical doctor.
Appeal to authority? Tf you talking about? Everything in the real doctors video is the complete opposite of. Mic is the one still holding onto the old science the WHO holds onto.
Dr Ekberg has stated before that he actually doesn’t mind vegan diets, and that vegan Keto is also a possibility. Ultimately I’m going to stick to Ekberg’s advice and see how my body reacts in the long term to it. If there are issues I’ll make adjustments.
@steveninthe there is plenty evidence supporting a vegan diet. It's sad to see how hard you try to prove your point, it's like when the tabaco industry tried to hide that cigarettes where killing people, but at the end everyone knows that gives you cancer, it's only a matter of time.
i've watched the other person's videos before thinking WTF how can he be saying this. and immediately started searching for debunking, which led me to here. thanks.
*Disclaimer I am not biased towards vegans or ketoers Videos likes these genuinely makes me confused because both sides make claims that make me think. I have been both keto and vegan and even both at the same time. I am no doctor just some random guy trying to choose a healthy lifestyle and genuinely interested in health and nutrition. I’ve learned that you can be healthy doing both, i lost 25 pounds as a vegan and gained some muscle. But when I was Keto I lost 35 pounds a lot faster while also gaining muscle and strength at the gym. And I felt amazing doing both. I have also ate unhealthy vegan junk foods towards the end of my 1st year as a vegan and gained back all the weight I lost ( I take full responsibility on that ). As well as the same goes for keto I ate “fat bombs” snacks all the time and gained some weight back. At the end of the day I just try to be as balanced as possible and do my best now to stay away from as much processed foods as possible. My family line has amazing genetics and my family from both sides have lived into the 100’s before passing away and they were not vegan, they were not keto. But they also were not stressing about this stuff and lived in the DR where all fruits veggies and meat is prepared organically with none of the crazy stuff we use today in everything. I love my greens I love my fruits, i still eat meat and I still have junk food every now and then but nothing like I did before. What I do know is that All my inflammation issues I had before I even started any of these diets are completely gone and I feel amazing now. and I can perform at an advanced level in the gym and with my friends playing sports. I appreciate and enjoy these videos and I glean as much as I can from both sides without trying to be biased. I just genuinely want to be healthy. I don’t hate vegans I don’t hate keto I appreciate that both sides have helped different people with different circumstances. And I undertake that the debate of keto vs vegan will go on for ever. just dropping in my 2 cents until then I’ll be watching and reading every single TH-camr “debunk” each other and see contradiction studies on everything we put in our mouth!
@MrQuidestveritas At the same time, you can't just pull things out your ass. It's fine to say "my theory is..." Or "I think..." but at least have a logical explanation or some type of scientific backing. If you think all the research is wrong, then do your own research but you can't give health information which is not evidence based.
Our issues come from the combination of High fats and High carbs in one meal. Supplying the body with two sources of fuel, in high amounts, will cause the body to use one and store the other. *This guy shows the proof and explains "the cloudy blood".* - th-cam.com/video/s41FM-XoBmI/w-d-xo.html
This is so sad to me. I just finished my research paper and most of the facts that the game changers use are true ! Like I literally read multiple anthropologies and peer reviewed research papers for months🤦🏾♀️ but people would still rather just be ignorant 😕
I haven't done a research paper but I feel the same way when people I know eat meat keto and think they are healthy. Veganism is too extreme and restrictive- What????
Strawberrysmoodie I would have to disagree. I rarely if ever eat fake meat and I make my own almond milk. Vegans don’t need to rely on substitutes. Substitutes are actually relatively new to help people who are transitioning to plant based.
Strawberrysmoodie the thing is being vegan isn’t about health so substitutes don’t have to be healthy 😂 people don’t eat vegan pizzas and ice cream for health. Those things are indulgences just like everything else. And just fruit and vegetables 🤨 you’re forgetting about all the whole grans, seeds, nuts, beans and legumes etc. There’s a healthy and an unhealthy way to be vegan and someone who is vegan is free to choose whether they consume substitutes or not 🤷🏽♀️
ggzh a Argue With Everyone Well in most developed countries that would be really really rare bc basics like that get drilled into your head so hard you almost cant say it any other way its just automatic - because it needs to be in the high stress environment of the clinic
@Cin I mean i also say things wrong in my field. I think about the right thing but when i translate it to a language it can be translated wrong and i say things the wrong way.
spliter227 c a r n i s m committing Ancestral repeating narrowminded insidious Sadistic massacre or c a r n i s m committing Ancestral ritualist narrowminded insidious Sadistic massacre. ...... Anti vegan means antagonistic , narrowminded. terroristic indoctrinated. violent. ecocentric‘s . gluttonous. apathetic. nihilist .
In case you weren’t tracking, Unnatural Vegan also did a “debunk Game Changers” video and even by her usual audience it wasn’t really very well received but in case you wanted to respond anyway... I’m just saying I would watch it 😄
I have nothing against anyone going vegan, but why does it seem like vegan influencers (and many non influencers) are so condescending. This guy talks like he’s a superior, smarter person. Everything about his vibe is what I think most people get rubbed the wrong way when talking to a vegan. I personally don’t get annoyed by someone eating plants. But I get really annoyed by someone talking to me or others like they’re better. Plant or meat eater, doesn’t matter. I think most vegans are working so hard to justify their decision that it’s coming off wrong. Just be vegan. Eat what you’d like. And don’t talk so condescending when discussing a non vegan life style. By the way.... I know some meat eaters can be degrading to vegans too, for no reason. But the ratio of cocky vegans to non cocky vegans is super overwhelming.
Awesome video Mike! It's really good to see that you covered this video. My mom's boyfriend shared this exact video with me and I thought it was very interesting. Good of you to watch this one and go over it.
Surely anyone with common sense would be able to work it out that the current obesity crisis and high cancer rates are not due to an excessive consumption of broccoli and beans. Excellent job, Mic!👍 Keep exposing those "experts" with their half-baked truth.
@DriftZ TwoSeven True, but just because one likes the taste of flesh in their mouths doesn't make meat healthy. Science is awashed with relevant research.
@DriftZ TwoSeven First of all, DriftZ TwoSeven, I'd strongly recommend you to read or listen to The China Study by T Colin Campbell, hopefully that will help to sort out your confusion about protein as an essential macronutrient and more specifically that from animal sources. There, by the way, beyond explaining why animal protein is not good for our species, Dr. Campbell addresses exactly your point regarding skewed and biased science. Secondly, being lean doesn't equal being healthy just as lots of smokers and drug addicts aren't. Thirdly, there's a DIFFERENCE between carbs. Complex carbs from whole plants are as good for us as refined simple carbs mostly in junk foods are bad. Very, very important point to remember and not to mix those two together. And lastly, TMAO, IGF-1, HEME IRON, ENDOTOXINS, CHOLESTEROL AND SATURATED FAT. If you look them up in the latest scientific research, that might put you off your meat for good. If not, keep chasing the final 0.00000001 % proof if you think that 99.9999999% of science against eating animals is not good enough for you. But I'd have thought that the overwhelming body of evidence that animal protein is detrimental to our health is sufficient enough to leave the poor creatures alone and wholeheartedly embrace the food that we have always been meant to eat, namely, whole plants. Just common sense.
Maybe you should talk about the real culprit here, which is sugar. The USDA said that you should eat more carbs and low fat. The main population have followed that and now we have increased obesity, increase type 2 diabetes, increase heart issues. There is your proof. Maybe you should focus on sugar and processed food.
I’m really so tired of doctors getting on TH-cam and criticizing each other I don’t care if you’re a chiropractor a doctor or a nutritionist it’s like pic pic pic everybody has something good to share, you might not agree maybe you eat meat maybe you don’t but for goodness sake stop getting online and gossiping and criticizing.
Wearephuct O yep this so-called doctor , 😉is a addicts with a superiority complex. And have you ever heard a heroin addict admitting that heroin is bad for you no the always trying to find fake studies. 🤔 That supports their ridiculous claims the same with smokers and alcoholics often, addicts are always irrational when it comes to their addictions!😉
@@themirrorofthetruth2055 Yeah, if anyone doubts the fact of food addiction they need only take a look around them at all obese people there are. They fix up their hair, their clothes, and even go through the pain of tattooing to enhance their appearance, but they can't stop eating.
I watch all of Dr. Ekberg's videos and they have helped me a lot but there was always something in the back of my mind about some of his content being a bit shaky; particularly when it comes to evidence. Thanks for this, I enjoyed it a lot. Whilst I think there's a lot of good to glean from his videos in general it's great to see a response to him that calls out some mistakes as there really aren't that many about.
It is honestly shocking how many people don't raise red flags when proper sources aren't cited. Not even high school students can cite wikipedia for their research papers 😂 Thank you for citing sources, and giving these "doctors" a run for their research.
It actually depends on what kind of subjects your researching. Wikipedia can be a very valid source when it comes to high level maths and some other natural sciences in higher levels. But when it comes to social studies, history, politics, etc. it can be very biased.
Have to say, this guy is not objective. He is militant vegan. Chiro doctor is maybe chiropractic, but has a bung of videos with reference of books, and studies, he is pointing out. Also Eckeberg is not against vegan diet, just says, the myths mentioned in the movie ...
I’m sorry but your attitude just really comes across as high minded hottie critical like you have it all figured out and I think you’re missing a few things. Although I respect your opinion.
Dr Grey Great perspective but without amino acids from highly bioavailable proteins with complete aminograms, you have nothing for protein synthesis, and CNS health. Plus, meat brought creatine, collagen, carnitine and B12, which were essential for the evolution of primordial cortex areas. This could not be achieved with a pure vegan diet millions years ago.
Eh, sorry but Ekberg still more persuasive-because he is more inclusive and encourages personal vigilance. I think he’s pushing for personal balance through a more a Whole30 approach, which is essentially to understand your own very unique inflammatory and metabolic triggers, and to focus on whole food, not processed stuff, heavy on fructose, corn, and soy. I realized after the Whole30 how badly my body reacted to ordinary grains, like oatmeal and dairy. Sugar and fructose and starch altogether another challenge. I’ll keep my balanced, fairly low-carb approach, with emphasis on cruciferous vegetables, leafy greens, mushrooms, nuts, and whole eggs. I’ll also nix dairy, except for sensible amounts of grass-fed butter and ghee, and I’ll stick with the occasional grass-fed meat or fish, especially when I feel my body needs it. My family has been vegetarian for generations but we’re cursed with heart disease and lately, we’re fielding an epidemic of diabetes. Part of it has to do with our shifting lifestyle, food availability, and definitely food choices. Vegetarianism or veganism apparently doesn’t always guarantee you like vegetables.
We are in our 70s and gave followed Dr. Ekberg for two years. We each list 45 pounds and have lowered our triglycerides and increased our HDL. Our A1C levels are both normal and our fasting insulin has come down along with our HOMA-IR scores. I know our inflammation has come down as well so much so that I know longer use a cane or walker to get around.
The 1st thing we were told at university studying for a BSc, is wikipedia can not be verified and written by anyone without the need for reviewable data, and as such invalid as a source of research.
Why do professional bodybuilders cut out 100% carbs outta their diet before a contest then? They get lean and shredded when cutting out all carbs. Carbs make ya fat by increasing insulin which stores fat.
I’m with Dr. Berg and Dr. Ekberg. I’ve followed their advice after being a vegan for several years. I feel much better and I am much healthier. Veganism is not the healthy option for me.
why isn't veganism the healthy option for you? even when it has been proved that it is the best diet? many people say they were vegan for several years but all they do is lie, you can be unhealthy on both the diets,and healthy too but only if you are doing it correctly.
@@AM-tb4fn he literally said why he isnt vegan, he feels much better and healthier. I was whole foods plant based for over a year as well and did "eveything right" took supplements and logged all my food in cronometer. It was great for a while then my hair was falling , i had deep black sunken eyes, eczema, etc. So happy i snapped out of it and finally have a much more healthier diet that will increase my longevity.plant based nutirents arent as bio available for me my skin is finally glowing im losing weight, my gums dont bleed when i brush my teeth. Im gaining muscle mass, my hair is getting stronger again, i could go on
@@rogerchavez461 what did the plant based nutritionist say when you went to them regarding issues you were experiencing? What we're the results of your blood tests and vitals?
@@AM-tb4fn essentially he's saying " I was vegan, Eating Oreos every day for years, and instead of getting tests done and my vitals checked to see if there's an issue, I decided to not be vegan and stop eating Oreos, so now I feel much better because I lust for the blood of those that don't want to die"
Honestly, this ekenberg doctor made more sense than you trying debunking him. I have no idea who is this doctor but your arguments are completely ridiculous.
I took an ecology class in college and the morphology of a human is not indicative of a meat eater. We’re more like apes, and they don’t eat meat at all
Ekberg is a common last name in Sweden, it means oak-mountain. There's a lot of last names that are nature derived like Sjökvist (Lake-twig lol) or Berggren (mountain-tree branch) in endless combinations. My family name is Rose thorn-mountain. Funny thing is his first name "Sten" means rock, or maybe stone is a better translation. So his name is Stone Oak-Mountain 😂
My Latin teachers often told me that Gladiators were overweight too. The layer of fat protected them from bleeding to death too quickly. I am not saying 150 kg guys , but certainly not 10 % bodyfat either.
I used to work in Transfusion. We looked at spun blood samples every day. You could see those that had eaten loads of fat, some were like cream coloured paint. No way is it good for you...!!!!!!
Bro great content as always! Would you please do a video responding to pjfperformance’s channel where they have a ‘respected’ dietician debunk the game changer claims.????
I stopped eating animals 30 years ago at age 21. It was a true blessing and has elevated my consciousness and given me excellent health. It still amazes me that people think eating a dead rotting corpse will give them more life/energy than a fresh piece of fruit. Namaste.
I'm obviously not arguing with the overall point of the documentary but honestly even as a vegetarian I thought it was incredibly one-sided and deceptive. I don't blame people for not believing everything they said or questioning the studies they used. The "science experiments" they did looked very unprofessional and incomplete, they never mention other factors like sleep, stress etc. It also seems like they extrapolate a lot, some statements sounded pretty out there to me (like the peanut butter sandwich lol). I just don't think portraying veganism as this magical solution that will solve all of your problems is the best way to promote it, it's dishonest and in my opinion doesn't serve veganism in the long run if people end up being disappointed with the results because of their high expectations (if they really only do it for health reasons). They might think it's not worth it !
Update: The exhaustive list of references has been posted on medium.com and the saturated fat doesn't impair artery function study IS NOT THERE.
New video about Joe Rogan with James and Chris! Please and thanks.
Thank you for everything you do i love you!!! Can you do a response on the "debunk on game changers" by youtube channel "food lies" thanks a mil!!
Thanks Mike. What a big surprise for all of us that is in the sad case of this guy! LOL! Thank you for your amazing and painstakingly good research work! We appreciate it!
Wow, I can't believe it. Claiming that the Game Changers Movie is cherry picking their studies and then "randomly selecting" a study that's not even there... Unbelievable. Thank you Mic!
Well done Mic. Thats a good debunk.
It was suspect that dude runs “Real Doctor” in all his titles but he’s a chiropractor. I know they are real doctors but most people would assume “REAL DOCTOR” = MD
YES THIS IS TRUE and I didn't even mention it. Just like Eric BERG. Real doctor is true technically but people assume it's a medical doctor when you say that. Standard.
Red Pill Vegan thanks for acknowledging that we are real doctors. When people simply dismiss a chiro for being a chiro it kills me, most are idiots anyways there’s plenty of other reasons to dismiss them rather than stopping to just saying they are a chiropractor 😂
Another chiropractor? They must have lots of nutrition schooling as all the keto experts are chiropractors.
Jessy Glaub - Sadly I was GREATLY misled by a chiropractor back about 6 years ago in terms of nutrition. It soured my taste for them.
But when I injured my neck I took a recommendation from a friend and went back (to a completely different practice) and can not say anything bad about the profession except that the nature of our health crisis has led a lot of them to offering weight loss services - which, when combined with the supplement sales that go along with it - often make up the majority of their revenue.
But I can’t blame them... people come and want weight loss. No One knows who to trust or what to eat, the American public is confused and nutritionally confounded by conflicting messages.
I think this guy is actually a "wholistic doctor", which is a step up from a chiropractor (7 years of education instead of 4) but still not a medical doctor.
Game Changers was a game changer for me. Gone vegan
Daniel Jones 😇thanks for havin an open mind
yay😎
good man! we all start somewhere! 👍💚
Congratulations! Google "21 day kick start" to get expert advice about how to do it right. That way you will get the most benefit for the long term.
Congrats keep it up, hope it is a game changers for many, many people too
“Level 10 meat goggles” merch coming soon?
100 lvls under 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
IT would ne interresting tout Deep dive in these "doctors" sources of funding.
Just because a doctor says something doesn’t make it true. Appeal to authority fallacy. Evidence once again comes out on top! 🙏🏼😄 #plantpower
@Molson Muscle Chiropractor doesn't equal nutritionist or even MD
Arthritis to Athlete
But this channel appeal to authority all the time if the message is correct.
Arthritis to Athlete you need to scream that first sentence from the rooftops!!!
Appeal to authority? Tf you talking about? Everything in the real doctors video is the complete opposite of. Mic is the one still holding onto the old science the WHO holds onto.
Jim Jimmy 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 exactly!
He isn’t a meat eat advocate he is a fasting advocate
Dr Ekberg has stated before that he actually doesn’t mind vegan diets, and that vegan Keto is also a possibility. Ultimately I’m going to stick to Ekberg’s advice and see how my body reacts in the long term to it. If there are issues I’ll make adjustments.
My husband and I were vegetarians, but since the movie we have decided to go vegan! Thanks for your videos!
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@@benjaminvolant2469 thank you but I've got as much research as I need for my decision, 😉
@steveninthe never asked for your opinion, thank you
@steveninthe there is plenty evidence supporting a vegan diet. It's sad to see how hard you try to prove your point, it's like when the tabaco industry tried to hide that cigarettes where killing people, but at the end everyone knows that gives you cancer, it's only a matter of time.
Amazing Cristina!!
i've watched the other person's videos before thinking WTF how can he be saying this. and immediately started searching for debunking, which led me to here. thanks.
*Disclaimer I am not biased towards vegans or ketoers
Videos likes these genuinely makes me confused because both sides make claims that make me think. I have been both keto and vegan and even both at the same time. I am no doctor just some random guy trying to choose a healthy lifestyle and genuinely interested in health and nutrition.
I’ve learned that you can be healthy doing both, i lost 25 pounds as a vegan and gained some muscle. But when I was Keto I lost 35 pounds a lot faster while also gaining muscle and strength at the gym. And I felt amazing doing both. I have also ate unhealthy vegan junk foods towards the end of my 1st year as a vegan and gained back all the weight I lost ( I take full responsibility on that ). As well as the same goes for keto I ate “fat bombs” snacks all the time and gained some weight back.
At the end of the day I just try to be as balanced as possible and do my best now to stay away from as much processed foods as possible. My family line has amazing genetics and my family from both sides have lived into the 100’s before passing away and they were not vegan, they were not keto. But they also were not stressing about this stuff and lived in the DR where all fruits veggies and meat is prepared organically with none of the crazy stuff we use today in everything. I love my greens I love my fruits, i still eat meat and I still have junk food every now and then but nothing like I did before. What I do know is that All my inflammation issues I had before I even started any of these diets are completely gone and I feel amazing now. and I can perform at an advanced level in the gym and with my friends playing sports.
I appreciate and enjoy these videos and I glean as much as I can from both sides without trying to be biased. I just genuinely want to be healthy. I don’t hate vegans I don’t hate keto I appreciate that both sides have helped different people with different circumstances. And I undertake that the debate of keto vs vegan will go on for ever. just dropping in my 2 cents until then I’ll be watching and reading every single TH-camr “debunk” each other and see contradiction studies on everything we put in our mouth!
I'm just confused on how you could have possibly done keto and been vegan simultaneously.
@@marcusjackman1487 a lot of leafy green vegetables, avocado, nuts, seeds, coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil
@@hexada_ghostemane Ok so basically high fat but sourced from plants, gotcha. Thanks.
Why can’t people just be real. People who teach their opinion shouldn’t teach.
Purple Elizabeth
Many people wouldnt male money then lol
@MrQuidestveritas At the same time, you can't just pull things out your ass. It's fine to say "my theory is..." Or "I think..." but at least have a logical explanation or some type of scientific backing. If you think all the research is wrong, then do your own research but you can't give health information which is not evidence based.
There is money in telling folks good news about bad habits.
Our issues come from the combination of High fats and High carbs in one meal.
Supplying the body with two sources of fuel, in high amounts, will cause the body to use one and store the other. *This guy shows the proof and explains "the cloudy blood".* - th-cam.com/video/s41FM-XoBmI/w-d-xo.html
Then many vegans wouldn’t be doing this either lol
This is so sad to me. I just finished my research paper and most of the facts that the game changers use are true ! Like I literally read multiple anthropologies and peer reviewed research papers for months🤦🏾♀️ but people would still rather just be ignorant 😕
La La you wrote a paper on the film?
I haven't done a research paper but I feel the same way when people I know eat meat keto and think they are healthy. Veganism is too extreme and restrictive- What????
Red Pill Vegan no. I wrote a research paper on how diet influences gastrointestinal health
Strawberrysmoodie I would have to disagree. I rarely if ever eat fake meat and I make my own almond milk. Vegans don’t need to rely on substitutes. Substitutes are actually relatively new to help people who are transitioning to plant based.
Strawberrysmoodie the thing is being vegan isn’t about health so substitutes don’t have to be healthy 😂 people don’t eat vegan pizzas and ice cream for health. Those things are indulgences just like everything else. And just fruit and vegetables 🤨 you’re forgetting about all the whole grans, seeds, nuts, beans and legumes etc. There’s a healthy and an unhealthy way to be vegan and someone who is vegan is free to choose whether they consume substitutes or not 🤷🏽♀️
I'm so early, Mic hasn't changed the title yet :)
burned.
You coul tell he wAs Lying when he said he picked that study at random , his body language and the way he said it was obvious.
@James Parker carnist?
Anyone else notice how you never see "Dr. E.Berg in the same room with "Dr." Ekberg?
Two crazy chiropractors.
Nope. Just did these chiropractor videos... *sunglasses*... back to back
Wearephuct O I think this is so called real doctor looks like he has cancer and have taken chemotherapy where are his eyebrows and hair😁
@@themirrorofthetruth2055 Maybe he's animatronic
Wearephuct O lol that will be hilarious. mr androids pseudo doctor.
On a positive note, he has nice printing. 😉
"People are putting so much "weight" on the gladiator..." I see what u did there😂
As soon as this “real doc” said “multi unsaturated fats” I though “yup, that’s gotta be a chiropractor... either that, or a real(ly) dumb MD” ;),,,
Yup. Lost all credability with one word
To be fair, that can also happen to experts. But a expert would realize that he made a error and would make the video again.
ggzh a Argue With Everyone
Well in most developed countries that would be really really rare bc basics like that get drilled into your head so hard you almost cant say it any other way its just automatic - because it needs to be in the high stress environment of the clinic
@Cin
I mean i also say things wrong in my field. I think about the right thing but when i translate it to a language it can be translated wrong and i say things the wrong way.
@@happygimp0 or at least correct it during editing
Love the sponsor! Looks like an awesome jacket, thanks for bringing it to my attention, will certainly keep it in mind when we move back north!
Why are vegans always angry 😂
Because they are always hungry.
If Sten were to blink slightly faster, he’d fly away. 🦋
Tbf its playing at +25 speed.
@@jhunt5578
Wow, he must be speaking very slowly if that's true.
HAHAHAHAHAHAG
True: i wrote to him, asking “why do you blink continuously” , and guess what? He deleted my comment…
@@famigliatibaldo5252 Wow, really?? Touchy subject eh 🤷♂️
I watched it. He is a tad on the nutty side.
Or just grossly ignorant about human biochemistry for someone who has been through med school. I was amazed watching this.
tamcon72
He is? He seem to understand much more of the human body then your random Vegan youtuber.
@Pete THE REAL Relentless you spelled chiropractor incorrectly.
@@ghostviggen said an absolute cretin...
milkynips1
Your point?
Aw man... I guess 50% of studies probably say breathing is harmful. Time to cut that out...
The real doctor isn't even a real doctor...
Or at least not a medical doctor. Doctor is a title that has a lot more about how much you studied than what you studied.
I am so grateful for your videos and all you do. Thank you!
Anti vegans: canines tho
Gelada baboon: Hold my grass
I don't know about baboons, but gorillas have huge canines and eat a plant based diet.
@@someguy2135 its because of their religion
spliter227 c a r n i s m committing Ancestral repeating narrowminded insidious Sadistic massacre or c a r n i s m committing Ancestral ritualist narrowminded insidious Sadistic massacre. ......
Anti vegan means antagonistic , narrowminded. terroristic indoctrinated. violent. ecocentric‘s . gluttonous. apathetic. nihilist .
The mirror of the truth lol ya you’re not radical
@@someguy2135 they use their teeth to threaten other gorilla's. They don't use them as part of a diet. Humans have canines to tear through meat.
In case you weren’t tracking, Unnatural Vegan also did a “debunk Game Changers” video and even by her usual audience it wasn’t really very well received but in case you wanted to respond anyway... I’m just saying I would watch it 😄
@@TechnoBro999 So classy
Matt make an argument.
@@kx7500 nope, he didn´t
My mind is blown. First, from the words coming out of the “doc’s” mouth. Also from Mic shutting him down and dropping the mic 🎤
You are just amazing at what you do
I have nothing against anyone going vegan, but why does it seem like vegan influencers (and many non influencers) are so condescending. This guy talks like he’s a superior, smarter person. Everything about his vibe is what I think most people get rubbed the wrong way when talking to a vegan. I personally don’t get annoyed by someone eating plants. But I get really annoyed by someone talking to me or others like they’re better. Plant or meat eater, doesn’t matter. I think most vegans are working so hard to justify their decision that it’s coming off wrong. Just be vegan. Eat what you’d like. And don’t talk so condescending when discussing a non vegan life style. By the way.... I know some meat eaters can be degrading to vegans too, for no reason. But the ratio of cocky vegans to non cocky vegans is super overwhelming.
I watch you and Jeff at Vegesource to keep things in proper check and perspective. You guys are fantastic at what you do. Thanks much!
I tried going Vegan once in my life. It was the worst 12 hours I've ever experienced!!!
Awesome video Mike! It's really good to see that you covered this video. My mom's boyfriend shared this exact video with me and I thought it was very interesting. Good of you to watch this one and go over it.
Surely anyone with common sense would be able to work it out that the current obesity crisis and high cancer rates are not due to an excessive consumption of broccoli and beans. Excellent job, Mic!👍 Keep exposing those "experts" with their half-baked truth.
LoL... XD Good point, so true! :)
it isn't because of overconsumption of meat and eggs either.
@DriftZ TwoSeven True, but just because one likes the taste of flesh in their mouths doesn't make meat healthy. Science is awashed with relevant research.
@DriftZ TwoSeven First of all, DriftZ TwoSeven, I'd strongly recommend you to read or listen to The China Study by T Colin Campbell, hopefully that will help to sort out your confusion about protein as an essential macronutrient and more specifically that from animal sources. There, by the way, beyond explaining why animal protein is not good for our species, Dr. Campbell addresses exactly your point regarding skewed and biased science. Secondly, being lean doesn't equal being healthy just as lots of smokers and drug addicts aren't. Thirdly, there's a DIFFERENCE between carbs. Complex carbs from whole plants are as good for us as refined simple carbs mostly in junk foods are bad. Very, very important point to remember and not to mix those two together. And lastly, TMAO, IGF-1, HEME IRON, ENDOTOXINS, CHOLESTEROL AND SATURATED FAT. If you look them up in the latest scientific research, that might put you off your meat for good. If not, keep chasing the final 0.00000001 % proof if you think that 99.9999999% of science against eating animals is not good enough for you. But I'd have thought that the overwhelming body of evidence that animal protein is detrimental to our health is sufficient enough to leave the poor creatures alone and wholeheartedly embrace the food that we have always been meant to eat, namely, whole plants. Just common sense.
Maybe you should talk about the real culprit here, which is sugar. The USDA said that you should eat more carbs and low fat. The main population have followed that and now we have increased obesity, increase type 2 diabetes, increase heart issues. There is your proof. Maybe you should focus on sugar and processed food.
A doctor making the assumption the lipemia may be okay? Wow... that is new.
I am from India . We eat high carbs mainly grain and vegetables. We are at the bottom in obese country list .🍏🌱🍏🌱🍏🌱
Joe's big debunking is tomorrow.... cant wait for the comedic bro science lol
Haha are you a masochist
This video has a chiropractor and next on Joe Rogan is an acupuncturist and Chinese medicine expert Chris Kresser. 🤦🏽♂️😆
@@jhunt5578 🤣🤣🤣
Bro why does the doctor blink so much
'Equally prestigious'...
OMG... 'what if cloudy is better'... Lol
What if blackened lungs of a smoker is better?
His brain is certainly very cloudy
Thanks for this😍
If I hear the sharp front teeth argument one more time... Maybe vampires are real? 🙈
I’m really so tired of doctors getting on TH-cam and criticizing each other I don’t care if you’re a chiropractor a doctor or a nutritionist it’s like pic pic pic everybody has something good to share, you might not agree maybe you eat meat maybe you don’t but for goodness sake stop getting online and gossiping and criticizing.
Right from the beginning, all the eye blinking is a sure sign that he knows he's not telling the truth.
Wearephuct O yep this so-called doctor , 😉is a addicts with a superiority complex. And have you ever heard a heroin addict admitting that heroin is bad for you no the always trying to find fake studies. 🤔 That supports their ridiculous claims the same with smokers and alcoholics often,
addicts are always irrational when it comes to their addictions!😉
@@themirrorofthetruth2055 Yeah, if anyone doubts the fact of food addiction they need only take a look around them at all obese people there are. They fix up their hair, their clothes, and even go through the pain of tattooing to enhance their appearance, but they can't stop eating.
I watch all of Dr. Ekberg's videos and they have helped me a lot but there was always something in the back of my mind about some of his content being a bit shaky; particularly when it comes to evidence. Thanks for this, I enjoyed it a lot. Whilst I think there's a lot of good to glean from his videos in general it's great to see a response to him that calls out some mistakes as there really aren't that many about.
I love that a vegan channel is sponsored by a vegan outerwear company. It's so wholesome
I wonder what these wonder jackets are made of, plastics?
I don’t trust information coming from someone who’s career depends on their ideology seeming legitimate.
Always so appreciative of you providing your resources.
Another “real doctor” sprouting absolute nonsense *sigh* I wonder if he at least got paid by Wikipedia for citing them constantly.
@DriftZ TwoSeven Exactly, always follow the money.
You're a legend Mic
Thank you Mic once again! These videos are so high quality and I'm so glad that you have good citations and you go through them clearly. Keep it up :)
It is honestly shocking how many people don't raise red flags when proper sources aren't cited. Not even high school students can cite wikipedia for their research papers 😂 Thank you for citing sources, and giving these "doctors" a run for their research.
Wikipedia?! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ Come on, middle schoolers know that's not a valid source. 🤣
It actually depends on what kind of subjects your researching. Wikipedia can be a very valid source when it comes to high level maths and some other natural sciences in higher levels. But when it comes to social studies, history, politics, etc. it can be very biased.
slboss123 I’d agree. I’ve also heard undergrad professors allow it now in some classes lol
LainasLife I hate when people say that Wikipedia isn’t a good source.
@@slboss123 well any source about social studies, history, politics is always biasaed
Thanks for making the video! I requested it via FB a week ago, dont know if thats what made you do it, but thanks anyway!
Have to say, this guy is not objective. He is militant vegan. Chiro doctor is maybe chiropractic, but has a bung of videos with reference of books, and studies, he is pointing out. Also Eckeberg is not against vegan diet, just says, the myths mentioned in the movie ...
Dude! You're in Iowa?! Eastern Iowa here. Last winter sucked! Can't wait to check out Wuxly!
Presidential candidate Andrew Yang has proposed a meat tax and to give everyone $1000/month. Vote for #Yang2020 !
I saw Patrick Baboumian challenged Brian Shaw to a 1 rep squat competition today in response to Shaw saying he’d our lift the vegan in any lift.
kbkesq it was actually Shaw who challenged Patrick
I’m sorry but your attitude just really comes across as high minded hottie critical like you have it all figured out and I think you’re missing a few things. Although I respect your opinion.
Without meat millions years ago, the human brain would not be at this volume right now. Conclusion: Homo sapiens is omnivore.
Dr Grey Great perspective but without amino acids from highly bioavailable proteins with complete aminograms, you have nothing for protein synthesis, and CNS health.
Plus, meat brought creatine, collagen, carnitine and B12, which were essential for the evolution of primordial cortex areas.
This could not be achieved with a pure vegan diet millions years ago.
I dont know if a chiropractor is "a real doctor".
Edit: Red Pill Vegan beat me to it
What do you call a real doctor someone who call themselves MD and don't know anything about diet?
Another great video! Thanks.
Eh, sorry but Ekberg still more persuasive-because he is more inclusive and encourages personal vigilance. I think he’s pushing for personal balance through a more a Whole30 approach, which is essentially to understand your own very unique inflammatory and metabolic triggers, and to focus on whole food, not processed stuff, heavy on fructose, corn, and soy. I realized after the Whole30 how badly my body reacted to ordinary grains, like oatmeal and dairy. Sugar and fructose and starch altogether another challenge. I’ll keep my balanced, fairly low-carb approach, with emphasis on cruciferous vegetables, leafy greens, mushrooms, nuts, and whole eggs. I’ll also nix dairy, except for sensible amounts of grass-fed butter and ghee, and I’ll stick with the occasional grass-fed meat or fish, especially when I feel my body needs it. My family has been vegetarian for generations but we’re cursed with heart disease and lately, we’re fielding an epidemic of diabetes. Part of it has to do with our shifting lifestyle, food availability, and definitely food choices. Vegetarianism or veganism apparently doesn’t always guarantee you like vegetables.
We are in our 70s and gave followed Dr. Ekberg for two years. We each list 45 pounds and have lowered our triglycerides and increased our HDL. Our A1C levels are both normal and our fasting insulin has come down along with our HOMA-IR scores. I know our inflammation has come down as well so much so that I know longer use a cane or walker to get around.
The 1st thing we were told at university studying for a BSc, is wikipedia can not be verified and written by anyone without the need for reviewable data, and as such invalid as a source of research.
$800 for a jacket? Are you kidding me.
Yes. And all my hopes went out the window.
That's pretty average for a super high quality winter jacket. Normal jackets in the 100s$ couldn't preform in the -30°s
Courtney Carr definitely not for the average person though.
Why do professional bodybuilders cut out 100% carbs outta their diet before a contest then? They get lean and shredded when cutting out all carbs. Carbs make ya fat by increasing insulin which stores fat.
"Level 10 Meat Goggles!" 😂😂😂
Mic the Vegan is so valuable for getting out the truth. There are so many liars out there getting paychecks.
I’m with Dr. Berg and Dr. Ekberg. I’ve followed their advice after being a vegan for several years. I feel much better and I am much healthier. Veganism is not the healthy option for me.
why isn't veganism the healthy option for you? even when it has been proved that it is the best diet? many people say they were vegan for several years but all they do is lie, you can be unhealthy on both the diets,and healthy too but only if you are doing it correctly.
@@AM-tb4fn he literally said why he isnt vegan, he feels much better and healthier. I was whole foods plant based for over a year as well and did "eveything right" took supplements and logged all my food in cronometer. It was great for a while then my hair was falling , i had deep black sunken eyes, eczema, etc. So happy i snapped out of it and finally have a much more healthier diet that will increase my longevity.plant based nutirents arent as bio available for me my skin is finally glowing im losing weight, my gums dont bleed when i brush my teeth. Im gaining muscle mass, my hair is getting stronger again, i could go on
@@rogerchavez461 what did the plant based nutritionist say when you went to them regarding issues you were experiencing? What we're the results of your blood tests and vitals?
@@AM-tb4fn essentially he's saying " I was vegan, Eating Oreos every day for years, and instead of getting tests done and my vitals checked to see if there's an issue, I decided to not be vegan and stop eating Oreos, so now I feel much better because I lust for the blood of those that don't want to die"
I did the keto diet and lowered my LDL cholesterol, lowered my triglycerides and boosted my HDL , DRASTICALLY.
Would love if you made a response to this dude recently on Joe Rogan claiming consuming more dairy equals lower cancer rates.
Thanks so much for response. I saw that video and had to leave as it was so misleading!
So what if both Docs have a white board? Why is that pertinent? Why are you vegan types so snarky?
Thanks Mike, great response as always!!
You inspired me to buy a Wuxly coat. I love it so far.
I am happy to hear about Wuxley! :) I'm in Calgary where it does get rather cold. Will be checking them out.
Weak. You don't appear to have listened to more than the first words on every topic. Doesn't effectively critique anything.
"Level 10 meat goggles is what he's wearing". This one me literally laughing hard. Good stuff mic big fan of your channel in general too.
This doctor. Mr ekberg also advocates on it being fine to eat 4+ eggs a day. And guess what, hes correct.
I came with an open mind however I think this video does a good job in reinforcing beliefs but not actually swaying people to change their minds.
Honestly, this ekenberg doctor made more sense than you trying debunking him. I have no idea who is this doctor but your arguments are completely ridiculous.
Great video! 🤗
When I hit the link to the wuxly page it said 404 page not found.
Dude I just saw this video and it was so bad, I was about to tell you about it on Instagram. You're on it🤙
That's not to say that I mic the vegans video is bad, I'm not sure if that was clear.
Cats Kale no I understood, you were very clear
more petty blah blah blah, whine whine whine from the angry vegans
Was looking for a Canada Goose alternative, cool!
I took an ecology class in college and the morphology of a human is not indicative of a meat eater. We’re more like apes, and they don’t eat meat at all
your mom like apes
Ekberg is a common last name in Sweden, it means oak-mountain. There's a lot of last names that are nature derived like Sjökvist (Lake-twig lol) or Berggren (mountain-tree branch) in endless combinations. My family name is Rose thorn-mountain.
Funny thing is his first name "Sten" means rock, or maybe stone is a better translation. So his name is Stone Oak-Mountain 😂
both of your names are funny
LOVED the Pokemon analogy lol **a wild Berg appeared**
My Latin teachers often told me that Gladiators were overweight too. The layer of fat protected them from bleeding to death too quickly. I am not saying 150 kg guys , but certainly not 10 % bodyfat either.
I love listening to Dr vs Dr debates.....oh, wait
I used to work in Transfusion. We looked at spun blood samples every day. You could see those that had eaten loads of fat, some were like cream coloured paint. No way is it good for you...!!!!!!
DriftZ TwoSeven it’s definitely a fat suspension. Carbs get converted to fat but it’s not in the bloodstream afterwards.
means nothing. Ancel Keyes lied that fat was bad for us and started all this bullshit that is finally getting rectified.
Bro great content as always!
Would you please do a video responding to pjfperformance’s channel where they have a ‘respected’ dietician debunk the game changer claims.????
I stopped eating animals 30 years ago at age 21. It was a true blessing and has elevated my consciousness and given me excellent health. It still amazes me that people think eating a dead rotting corpse will give them more life/energy than a fresh piece of fruit. Namaste.
I'm obviously not arguing with the overall point of the documentary but honestly even as a vegetarian I thought it was incredibly one-sided and deceptive. I don't blame people for not believing everything they said or questioning the studies they used. The "science experiments" they did looked very unprofessional and incomplete, they never mention other factors like sleep, stress etc. It also seems like they extrapolate a lot, some statements sounded pretty out there to me (like the peanut butter sandwich lol). I just don't think portraying veganism as this magical solution that will solve all of your problems is the best way to promote it, it's dishonest and in my opinion doesn't serve veganism in the long run if people end up being disappointed with the results because of their high expectations (if they really only do it for health reasons). They might think it's not worth it !
Game changers is on the same level as Ancient aliens.
Excellent help thru this analysis, thank you Mic!
"Multi Unsaturated Fatty Acids..." This doc skipped his biochemistry class, that's for sure.
Thanks for making this video Mic. I love your channel ♥️
I can’t believe people are still comparing our teeth to the teeth of a lion. Give me a break!
don't watch freelee the vegan then...so stupid.
Bean pudding?
I wanna know how to make that.