Dream doesn't know how to be famous
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"Dream should probably just hire a PR manager or something" is probably the best way to sum up all of what's happened to Dream over the past year or two
you're so right, this has been my opinion that entire time
If I made enough to afford a PR manager and had over 1 million people watching me I would hire one in a flash. Even if it's just for them to say "You're good" 99% of the time
he needs a therapist too, hes mentally stunted and deeply insecure
Except for, like, the PREDATOR SHIT
@@_peepee_did I missed something?
Dream's career is like some scenario I'd make up when I'm struggling to fall asleep that would make me really anxious
You just described his career SO WELL what?!?
Fr bro
Literally lmaoooo
genuinely one of the funniest things I have ever read in my life, what a mood
LMAOOOOO
The fact that it kept cutting to clips of people walking outside and living their lives is so freakin funny it really shows how chronically online we all are
It's superliminal messaging, go out side, touch the green, do it NOW.
what?
Good news! Im visiting my grandma and have gone outside many times!
I even touched grass.
_thrice_
Dear diary, today I went outside and felt the sunlight for the first time in 4 years.
@@henrycrystal9740they’re basically just saying that we’re so deep in our phones that whenever we see someone living their normal life’s it’s funny like him just cutting a random clip of people just… living and it’s genuinely funny.
In my opinion dream doesn't even look that ugly, it was just funny how un-subtly he tried to flex his jawline in the face reveal video
I think it’s because it was his first time on camera lol. He looked goofy in that first video
His actions made him uglier to me
I don’t think he was flexing, I think he’s just pretty insecure so he wanted it to be in the only angle he thinks he looks good. Making such a big deal out of showing his face is kinda peak insecurity, which is a shame because he’s a good looking dude.
Exactly, it's the pose and the face he's making, and the caption. It's just too funny. I hate when people use "ugly" as an insult though, it's so shallow, especially when the person you're insulting isn't even unattractive in the traditional sense like dream, like it just shows how lazy your sense of humor is and that you put way too much importance on looks. People posting "subtle" thirst traps is always cringe and unintentionally hilarious though regardless of how attractive you are
he’s average looking, maybe even a bit better than average. people would not look twice at him if he wasn’t dream
the QSMP vs USMP thing will always be a little weird to me because why would dream have any real interest in creating a multilingual server besides as a way to say "hey look i care too!" Quackity is bilingual and has two large audiences: one that is a spanish speaking community and another that is an english speaking community. it makes way more sense for Quackity to be devoted to trying to marry the two audiences and do something that is good for both sides.
THIS
Both of them have good reasons and it is money and fame. Quackity is in the better position being bilingual.
@@Chekkewakkaz but quackity genuinely cares more about the union of the communities despite the language, I don't see him trying to make money at the expense of it, he spends more maintaining it. And also how the creators talk about his team and the genuine concern that they are having a good time.
@@Lachapalacha125 iiirc, Quackity started getting a loooot of twitch subs, those that gives money to the creator, when he started streaming in the dream smp. He was already a good content creator but DSMP gave him a big boost. And Dream's fame get him also more fame. He clearly got lots of monetary gain on it and I don't think it is wrong to want to create a bigger smp for everyone. It is a invesment as you put it, but I'm sure it'll return to him and more opportunities will get to him. You can't deny he going to get lots of money for this and you can't know if he cares for sentimental reasons or monetary ones, hells, it can also be both.
I only think he's a bad friend for not solving his situation with Dream in private, what was supposed to be the person who got him where he's at.
@@Chekkewakkaz You're talking in ignorance. Quackity made discord videos that we're popular, his tech scam callling videos too. And let's not forget his streams raiding games, he was popular before the DSMP, if only added more people watching his lore streams videos. And let's not forget that TOMMY was the one who invited him to the DSMP, not dream, not George, therefore what you just said doesn't make any sense.
Dream was the one who made the drama public, quackity is not obligated to respond If he doesn't want to, and that is something you dream stans forget, how can you call somebody a bad friend (when you are not part of their lives or know them in person) just because he didn't want to be part of a drama in the internet?
dream is like that kid at another child’s party who needs a sympathy gift because he can’t stand anything not being about him
He definitely WAS that kid
Still is
eric cartman in the "you're getting old" episode LMAO
@@bones1530I WAS GONNA SAY THAT LMFAOOOOO
@@bones1530 he even used to look like cartman
Guy didn't get bullied off of the face of the internet. The internet bullied the face off of him :(
LMAOOOOO
nahhhh 💀
Lol
HA Thats great
Good 😍
I don’t believe Dream ripped Quackity off, but I 100% think Quackity has showed a ton more passion and love for this concept than Dream ever could. As a Mexican American myself, this server is so damn cool.
@korra__
That's rough but op was talking more ab quackitys passion ab a project, not his fans
@@korra__ aside from the fact that this doesn’t really have anything to do with my comment, I can see how horrible that is, honest. But also… Dream has had a history of enabling his fans to do the exact same thing. This argument also falls flat when you see how many harassers were already bothering Dream, and aren’t even Quackity fans. They don’t really correlate, yk?
Also quackity has started this project since 2021…
Dream was never cool or even good but quackity fell off harder than earth’s gravity should theoretically allow for
@@ChineseisntalanguageapparentlyHim leaving Dream is a good thing
undeniably the worst thing about dream is definitely how weird he gets with his fans and how he defends and supports their stan worship
also stuff like the kittens tweet.
good god. the kittens tweet 💔💔
@@ikedaren_29336 Even though it was a joke, a lot of his fans most likely took it seriously which is the problem. It's genuinely creepy.
@@ikedaren_29336 the what
@@lasagnalover_69he compared his fans to kittens to say how nice and innocent they were meanwhile the discord kittens meme was goin around
@llamaniaman4002 given that most of his fanbase are obsessed young kids and teenagers,the kitten tweets were not the best of looks specially when dream himself was aware of this
the funniest thing abt dream’s quackity meltdown to me is the fact that he seems to think the split is genuinely over their similar servers. quackity’s been radio silent ever since the grooming allegations came out n I think he probably sees quiet separation as the best way to go about severing his relationship with dream. him not responding to a lighthearted conversation prompt between friends makes no sense under the circumstances dream’s presented, but 100% does if you’re viewing it as a guy who learned his former friend is a dangerous shithead n is now trying to avoid any further interaction with him
It's weird that this is the first comment I've seen bring up the grooming allegations
@@sofastuffing YEAH LIKE DID EVERYONE JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT OR WHAT. I feel like it’s a lot clearer why dream is having this breakdown/why his former friends are leaving him when you remember that he was accused of sex crimes with a pretty large amount of so far unrefuted evidence but all the discussion I see of him nowadays just never brings them up
this is so real
Finally thank you for talking about the allegations
Is the allegations even a real thing? I don't know i have seen farrrr too many unproven callot online
This aged well. This aged really well. This aged too well
What happened
@@BrainGodGeniusyes what happened
@@BrainGodGenius dream poorly responded to someone leaking “him” sext-moaning to a minor, where dream then said that it was “revenge porn”. By that definition he (I’m guessing) accidentally just confirmed he sexts minors and one of those minors leaked that video.
@@BrainGodGeniusGumball Waterson
oh gods im so happy i havent heard the audio, i physically cringed when i heard that it even existed
I think a super important bit of context for Quackity and some other of Dream's friends beginning to drop him is the treatment he gave some of the members of DSMP. Reportedly (I've only heard this through word of mouth so I could be totally wrong), he would rarely communicate lore events, taking literal months to respond to questions about the plot when he was the main Big Bad of the server, and would sleep through events he was supposed to take part in - resulting in people like Quackity not being able to fully finish the stories they'd been planning out for months. In addition, QSMP was something Quackity had been talking about doing for a long time, and given the launch of the server, which was complete with a fully built opening area, announcement videos, timed events, and fully animated cutscenes, had clearly taken a long while to put together. Dream's server got announced maybe a month or so after QSMP's launch, to which there was radio silence on when it would actually happen afterwards. There was also clips from a multilingual event that both Dream and Quackity participated in - in which Dream showed little to no interest in attempting to communicate with the non-English speakers, making this claim of his that this was a "passion project" all the more suspect. I've got no stake in the game - I'm not a superfan of either creator, but from the outside looking in it does definitely feel like USMP was an attempt to capitalise on the success that the QSMP had gotten. And I think Quackity's patience was beginning to wear a little thin, from both the blatant copying of an idea he'd clearly had in the works for months, and the shitshow that was the DSMP near the end - hence him ghosting Dream.
I aint reading allat
This is about as long as Dreams tweet lol
@@aniruddh8303Mfs with short attention spans when faced with two paragraphs
Yeahhh
@@O_O.The.Commenterbut it’s giving actual context.
dream just comes off as the kind of guy who loses an argument then tries to continue it 24 hours later then is surprised everyone's already moved on
you described him really well, yeah
He literally did do that with the speedrun controversy
I despise Dream, but I still think appearance based insults are always an L. He's an asshole, but he doesn't deserve that, he should be made fun of for the actual bad shit he's done lol
Agreed, I really hate the guy but not only does he just look like a basic dude (which isn’t a bad thing) but also these insults just hurt decent people who have similar physical features to Dream.
@@DouglasTheAlien Exactly!!! I really wish people could remember that
agreed (unless it's someone insulting someone else's appearance, then everything goes)
He isn't even a bad-looking guy, he looks pretty good when facing front-on, but he picked his worst angle and froze still with his chin out of the whole video
While I still find some of the memes and light jokes about his face funny, I definetly agree that insulting his appearance is bad (I've literally saw one tweet that went something like "yeeees I'm SO glad he's ugly af" with thousands of likes, and like, how pathetic is that lmao).
For me it was the reveal itself that was really goofy and ridiculous, like, he had this corny editing and music with the montage of random influencers acting like they saw God himself directly in the eyes
he sounds like a serial killer when he mentions how often he reached out to quackity and much he loves quackity and misses him and doesn’t want things to **escalate** from this like he’s going to murder him.
Nah, just a tad narcissistic. Sometimes people with that personality will do that whole talk.
Dream isn't ugly but he definitely set himself up for failure by using his face reveal as a marketing campaign. His haters called him ugly, most of the people who don't care about him called him ugly, and some of his fans even called him ugly. His marketing stunt is what caused half of the live viewers of the premiere to be people trashing on him.
If he had just randomly made a video revealing his face, there wouldn't be nearly as much hate. But he HAD to let the internet know how "handsome and special and must-see" his face is. Having his friends posts videos of them acting like he's a greek god or smth. Only for him to look like your average college kid with a big chin.
That’s gotta be the most accurate description I’ve ever seen
That's why i think the best example of a face reveal is jschlatt
The dude litteraly made a video about minecraft (there was no indication of a face reveal) and until the end of the video he pops up, says : "hi, this is my face lol, k bye"
Meanwhile dream over hyped it a lot, made his friends film their reactions to it, promoted and approved fanart that had unrealistic facial features, and a lot of other stuff
6:53 Just want to make clear that Quackity never intended for the QSMP to JUST be spanish and english. There are clips of him saying that it's a "multilingual server", and he's clearly planned for there to be many languages in the future.
FR
yep there is already Spanish, English, Portuguese and French speaking creators! it’s a really amazing project and i know so many more content creators that i never would of known because of QSMP!
@@sharkieanimates722Like Baghera Jones and Felps
Imma assume he started with English and Spanish as its easier for him to test as he is bilingual. Quackity is a legend, I'm not really into minecraft content anymore but he always has good vibes!
@@minikipp8549 that's actually the reason why it was done that way. When the Brazilian ccs were added, Q said that they decided to start the server with only Spanish and English to test the waters and for it to not be too overwhelming for everyone participating
Dream face revealing was so unnecessary considering that Ranboo (who was on the DSMP) is still faceless and does IRL content all the time
Also Dream built up so heavily to his face reveal as if he had deeper reasons he kept it off the internet, such as Jaiden animations or Ranboo
Nah his face got leaked
Dream's online career would probably make a great episode of that Black Mirror show people love so much. Especially the part where Dream did a music video/stage play about his connection to Technoblade, where he made a big deal out of the imagery of an actor flat-lining on a hospital bed, who was supposed to represent Technoblade.
I’m sorry, he did what? 🕴🏼
@@domino6011 YEP! It was...Something I could have lived a happy life without seeing.
@@KittyKatty999damn, no wonder Quackity stopped talking to him
i was gonna question that and say sm about it but technoblades dad is in it so he must’ve approved of it but it still rubs me the wrong way
that just made me drop him out, plus george comment on his podcast defending a dude who harassed a drunk girl
considering I wasn't even able to handle getting a few hundred followers on tumblr/a few dozen people sending me hate because it was just so overwhelming even trying to ignore it I can't imagine being this suddenly famous and having no chance to learn how to cope with it along the way
i had over a 1000 followers at my height of tumblr "fame" and i absolutely hated it. i felt like i had people watching me all the time to make sure i didn't like the wrong things or say anything that could be misconstrued in any way, i didn't feel like i could relax or be myself without putting on the filter of being the perfect person. ever since i abandoned that blog and tumblr in general things have been so much easier since i don't have to put on a persona just to be liked by other people who would never like who i really am anyways. i could not IMAGINE being scrutinized daily by millions of mainly tweens and teens with too much free time on their hands.
I have never produced content outside of making comments, but even reading the replies to my comments stress me out to the point I turned off all notifications to replies on my comments
I'm pretty sure Dream wasn't "suddenly famous" he most definitely had a plan in mind and admitted on multiple occasions that he had "studied the youtube algorithm" to blow up and be a big channel, which kinda ended up just being super simple super clickbait-y videos released at the probably the best moment in time to ever release such content. He definitely was on some sort of path which is obvious in and of itself, but fame like this also just doesn't magically happen, like ever
@@theguy5077 the "suddenly" is hyperbolic, I know he didn't literally get famous overnight but compared to the pace a lot of channels go at it definitely looks like it was too fast for him to have any time to get seriously adjusted. it's less about going from 0 to 100 but rather reaching 100 before you've even gotten used to 20
@@maker0824yea the only way I do social media is commenting on things. And it's upsetting when someone replies being an asshole. I couldn't be an influencer.
Sometimes I start writing a comment and then think it might get taken the wrong way so I don't post it. It can be annoying when TH-camrs give disclaimers at the start of videos but I can see why they have to.
To be clear, I am a fan of Qsmp and certainly not a fan of dream, so I am biased, but imagine thinking that if you publicly cry about the fact someone isn’t replying to you it’ll fix everything. Especially seeing as one of the main reasons his own smps have failed is due to his lack of communication, so he’s one to talk about ghosting. Also the ‘wearing a super noticeable and eye catching mask everwhere in public because people keep recognizing my face an noticing me’ thing is really funny. I agree, man really needs a pr team it’s so wild to me that someone with his level of success is so active on twitter and yet doesn’t have a single voice of reason to tell him ‘hey, maybe that’s a bad idea’. I feel like he has a new controversy trending every 2 days, and whether someone can argue that it’s an overreaction about something or not, it’s far to frequent at this point. He’s really gotta just stop using twitter and go back to posting 500 Minecraft manhunts
A lot of people thing he did this whole "face unreveal" + ""hiding his face"" with the mask to promote his new song
oh sorry nvm its in teh vid lol
I agree and he definitely needs some people in PR. The dudes impulsive which I can understand as I also have adhd but at the same time plenty of creators do and still don’t have this level of drama. But clearly he needs a voice of reason and I’m sure he’s understanding that this drama is not going well for him, he’s not really gaining anything out of it.
That’s a point I never thought about, surely the mask is way MORE recognisable than his face 💀💀
wtf are you talking about, your fandom has been stalking and doxing smiletwt, dream and his family for like months cuz of a damn similarities of the minecraft servers - that was what dream's post was about
I don’t want to sound aggressive, but in my opinion, when your fans put trackers on your friend's family’s cars over a fucking minecraft server, this is a good reason to respond and try to resolve the conflict together
stop misrepresent situation bye
pinely reminds me of the guy in the corner of the party
"They don't know I'm Pinely"
Always the most interesting person to talk to.
"They don't know I'm deconstructing their favorite TH-camr's content and actions"
Bruv that's why I love watching him
I think thats the meanst thing Ive heard today 😂
It’s so much fun not being a dream stan. Dream is a new sort of lol cow that you can even watch from a distance and still be entertained.
It's fun being a dream stan. It's fun enjoying what makes you happy
@@erin4651being a fan = good, you enjoy a person's content
Being a stan = mental sickness
@@UntrackedEndorphins agreed
Being entertained to such a degree by someone's downfall isn't healthy man. Save it for the true evil in this world or find something more constructive - it's a dark spiral
@@gigitrix dream is in the periphery of what I pay attention to, and it’s still entertaining. That’s what I was sayin. I don’t even have to exert energy to pay attention.
I just can`t let Dream of the hook after he cheated in minecraft speedruns and tried to cover it up by hiring some random professor to write him "proof" that he didn't cheat (which he did)
I was a dream fan during that and it rubbed me the wrong way so much to the point where I just stopped watching his content because he went through so much effort to lie abt it
Everyone thinks of him as 'that speedrunner guy' so if you cheat while doing it people are gonna be mad at you especially the community
Think if a lawyer fabricated fake evidence and it came out no ones gonna believe you anymore
I wouldn't let him off the hook after being pretty much proven to be a groomer and yet has somehow not gotten any repercusions for this.
@@dyinginside821SAME
@@ang1759frrr
I lost a lot of respect for people like Minx when the grooming allegations against Dream came out and they immediately went to mock the victims for being attention seeking.
What people did that? Other than minx
Tbf the allegations were fake asf
@@felixb6 maybe it was but he should still respond because there’s a lot of people believing in it. Plus the fact that he prioritizes stuff like arguing with a 17 year old calling his plush ugly rather than responding to his serious allegations is weird
@@dogearmy29 is it confirmed that they were taken to court?
@@Loifeyhe did respond to allegation. He made a very long tweet about it.( I’m not defending him in anyway) he said he was taking it to court.
as a recovered dream stan, it’s so crazy taking a step back and realizing just how weird so many of the things he did were. i can say now that even if he’s completely innocent and he only ever had good intentions, he’s simply too irresponsible with his platform. you got it exactly right, he doesn’t know how to be famous. speaking from experience, dream stans will do anything to rationalize everything he does and to take the best possible interpretation of them, even if it’s completely ridiculous and doesn’t stand up to reason. they literally can’t conceive of a reality where he’s done something wrong or bad. it’s actually been kind of disturbing watching old friends of mine slip further and further into their echo chamber of justification for his actions. it’s almost like cult behavior. i feel like a lot of people’s issues with dream would be solved if he just limited his social media presence and hired a pr manager. oh well. i don’t hear much about him anymore because i unfollowed him everywhere, so i only occasionally get secondhand info. it’s been very freeing not worrying about him or his image every day, as it feels like this trainwreck is only going to get worse
i still think its fucking crazy that he admitted to saying "i like that you're in highschool i find that hot" and everyone just.. forgot? and then he appeared in a mr beast video 3 months later like nothing ever happened???
HE SAID WHAT
As someone who is also a recovered dream stan, yeah. That's kind of the gist. It's weird to think I had actually once enjoyed his music (its bad) and treated them like the best things, and got mad when anyone said anything negative about him ever.
It's sooooooooooo good not to be that anymore. It's been at least a couple years and now I know how trash his community was. How trash it STILL IS.
bro imma need some more context because HE SAID WHAT? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? WHERE WAS THIS FROM?@@serge4ntsnu5fles
like i get digging up old stuff to expose ppl on twitter isnt the, best thing to do with your time but i feel in some cases its needed
I still can’t get over that he was tweeting out all these “fake beef” tweets to Quackity and joking about it, only to be revealed that the whole time he was being ghosted and was just talking to a wall, like why was he doin all that
Anyways I don’t think you look like that old white guy pinely
HAHA I FORGOT ABOUT THAT
He what💀💀
Quackity drops people all the time when they become a brand risk anyway lol. Every single time he gets popular again it feels like he has a new friend group. Didn't he start out with those discord videos..? If dream didn't expect this he's fucking stupid
it’s wild how every month this video becomes relevant again for a new reason
i love him getting roasted by the drunk gumball voice actor and still losing
he should hire an editor while he's at it. the fact that apparently he has one of his friend's edit all of his videos and two other guys' videos is ridiculous.
doesn't he edit his videos himself?
@@thatenbykidYeah I’m pretty sure that Dream is the one who edits the entire “dream team’s” videos
i secretly pronounce your name “pin-nelly” for fun
You mad lad you😂😂😂😂
adding to the collection of comments that will haunt this man
What have you done?? I will never unhear it now 😭🤣
Now we got another comment that Pinely will probably bring up in a later video
i speak portuguese so that would be the common pronunciation. pin-nelly is canon.
thank you pinely for being strong enough to say what we are all thinking (that dreams a fucking weirdo)
“weird” is really the best way to describe Dream. The bad stuff he’s done isn’t the worst most of the time, but it is consistently really really weird
@@maker0824what about editing nazis and grooming minors lol
@@maker0824weird, I… I may even hazard to call it… cringe?
He likes little kids it’s okay to call him worse things
@@maker0824 Like every controversy involving him was just bizarre. The Minecraft cheating scandal, the music video disaster, the huge amount of uncomfortable tweets and interactions where he treated his audience of children like "kittens", his down right psychotic and toxic fandom, his face reveal, it all felt like a fever dream in a way.
this video masquerades as an analysis of the dilemma of being a person as famous as dream, or specifically dream himself, but it's actually all to distract from the fact that pinely is very insecure that he looks like George Bluth Sr. from Arrested Development
wait who's pinely? i only clicked on this video bc i saw George Bluth Sr. from arrested development
Right as I read this comment lonely mentioned the George bluth sr thing in his video 😂 weird timing
"He's an old white man! I'm a young brown guy!" Is such a slaying thing to just chant on repeat at the end of a video lmao
I find a lot of the members of the DSMP quite funny and entertaining, even some of Dream’s close friends, but Dream himself was the only person who I never really watched or cared about. Kind of ironic.
My thing about dreams content is that I always considered him the most bland, even though he is the most famous. It is not like I never laughed at any of his jokes he made or never found him in DSMP entertaining. He is just the most meh. Even though he is controversial now, I always saw him as the least objectable in how he saw himself. I watched way too much of DSMP during covid because why not and If I had to describe his persona he presents himself as I still struggle. I am not talking about a character, he obviously played the villain in that story and a few times he even did a good job doing that (once he figured out what acting was during the exile arc he pulled off some honestly kinda impressive improv speeches). Like it was not roleplaying every single second on the server there was plenty of normal streamer content and humor, during non "lore parts" and even towards those parts everyone had a personality different than their character. Something that made them stand out and many were able to sell them very well leading to huge growths (especially Tommyinnit). But who is dream was he trying to be egotistical, arrogant, nice, an everyman, some genius player? I still don't know. He was just kinda there. The most reaction I ever got out of him was him being a bit annoying in some of Karl's content but that is all. I could never get him down at all but at the same time he got the most growth from that all.
I want to make it clear i have nothing against his content I just always found it weird he was the biggest as he was the most dull. He was just always there when he wasn't acting. I never got it. I got into a lot of cool MCYT creators through DSMP but the one who had his name on the whole thing never got my attention. Also me saying I have no issue with his content does not mean I agree with all he has done. That guy really needs a PR team and to delete Twitter. He is too impulsive to deal with having that many fans and has made too many stupid mistakes.
Honestly, same. I mean I am guilty of being an ex fan of dream and watching the dream smp, however, his friends were the one who carried that server and they were the ones who kept me interested in it. Dream himself was kinda a person who bounced off his friends' humor but by himself is kinda.. stale. I mainly j watched his videos w George and Sapnap but easily get bored when he's by himself. He's just not that charismatic or funny. For me the ones who rly carried smp were Wilbur and Quackity.
@@daphnedaphn3 I agree. If I am going to be slightly complimentary towards Dream he was great at creating situations for other people to be funny which is a skill in a way. But as you said he never really could carry the humor. I think the reason why his most successful series is Minecraft manhunt, is because he is not alone. Everyone else can be funny and at the same time he didn't really have to talk that much just play the game which he is way better at making entertaining compared to his commentary.
I also agree with the point that he never carried the server. Like even though the dream smp was technically his and he was a major aspect of the story. He was never really the reason it was THAT successful in my opinion. His big name might have helped with publicity. But so much of that early roleplaying was carried by Wilbur's writing early in and his charisma. He made the plots that made the server so big and set it up for such a huge success. Another huge aspect of the server came from the big personalities and improv skills of a lot of the creators who at times pulled off kind of impressive dramatic performances that kept the fans so engaged (like Tommy, Slimecicle, and Ranboo). Or the ones who were not afraid to have huge production values, to try to one-up everyone else (like Quackity and Karl). I am not the biggest Dream SMP fan in the world and kinda fell out once it all got too complex, and the story became too bloated. I would just sometimes occasionally check in on the creator's plots that I liked but I would never seek out Dream or see what's going on with him even though he never streamed on the server he was in everyone else's streams but I really just didn't care. He was just there. just a presence that existed in the background which is kinda fitting for the character he was playing I guess. But still weird that on the server that is named after him he is far from the main character.
I am happy that so many on the server were able to get huge growths and stuff and can now continue on to the next part of their careers now bigger than before, with a whole new audience. Many of them are cool and really deserve it. And even though I have issues with the dream smp and the fandom I enjoyed my time watching that content. But with all the controversy Dream keeps on getting himself into, I don't know how much longer his career will last.
@@daphnedaphn3i loved wilbur quackity and fundy
pretty sad that dream drags them down so much due to smps name, even leading to some members deleting that fun part of their life behind them due to rep
Dream is that one friend who argues for no reason and picks fights. But hes also a minecraft youtuber so it doesnt work out well.
Dream throwing a whole tantrum online about Quackity not responding to him after he clearly drove Quackity away is so funny to me.
Fr like Quackity must just want to go away from all those grooming allegations Dream was getting 😭
It’s objectively funny that Dream went on this whole meltdown about the USMP vs QSMP meanwhile Quackity just could not give less of a shit about him
Showed how childish dream is without even speaking.
I think fame beyond a small scale is bad for people in general. Even people who seem to handle it well still deal with a horrible amount of stress, I can't imagine what it must be like.
Dream's existence makes being a minecraft youtube fan so much more annoying. Half the time it's like you're just minding your business eating some icecream and somebody you don't know comes up to you unprompted saying you should die for eating it because Jeremy the Icecream truck driver four towns over kicked a puppy once. And everyone else in town agrees this is somehow a rational opinion to have.
I've disliked Dream since I first found out about him bc my first introduction to his existence was him essentially publically antagonising all the people I did like (with the help of mr beast. yeah.). And then him throwing an absolute fit every time he lost at something. And they might've forgiven him for that or even become friends with him (at least before the recent stuff) but I'm a petty little goblin that can hold a grudge.
Also most former dsmp members are actually fine and normal people.
OMG agreed. Dream is like a disease in the community.
I kinda feel the same way with sapnap and George too. During the squid game event sapnap was legit angry at George over his color blindness. Like not just friends messing around. He legit threw a anger tantrum and wouldn't get over it. Although I don't like George either it was cringe to watch.
Kinda cringe when he first provoked techno to a duel. Lost the duel, then they have to split the money so that everyone can be happy.
@@iasked9392 they split the money? Well is there a video that I could watch? I think I miss that info
@@iasked9392 I always understood it as they both chose to split it before the duelm to stop any possible drama between them or their fans getting too big and to just make it more fair. It had nothing to do about the outcomes as the decision was made before either of them knew it. They were both in it more to see who won and to give a good entertaining fight that is it. I may be wrong and my info may not be correct but this is how it was explained to me and what i remember from videos i watched from when it all went down. And anyways there are way worse things and way more cringe things that dream has actually done.
a new pinely video, wow my DREAM has come true!
Pack it up guys. No point trying to make any more funny comments. This one's won.
beans
Very funny joke Mr. Nabber
Inabber confirmed based???
inabber cameo⁉️⁉️🤑
“I’M A YOUNG BROWN GUY” killed me lmao i’m dead now
he’s honestly the BEST at being an influencer, he knows how to manipulate his child audience extremely well
Which is not hard
You've said it exactly right. Dream should not have this much of a fanbase, he clearly doesn't understand what power he does have over his fans. It's very upsetting to see him interact with them, and any trolls.
great video, but if Dream even watches this it will inevitably go over his head, much like the advice given by the previous dude.
Literally Anthony Padilla has been on this platform for years, I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s talking about. But no Dream just ignored that lol
@@nellbugwhat did Anthony Padilla say? Can you explain please 🙏🏼
@@user-kg4xp7kj4e from what I understood, Anthony basically mentioned how if Dream keeps responding to mean people’s tweets, it makes more people want to provoke him? If he just ignored them then no one would bother as much I guess, so there’d be less drama. The fact that he keeps unnecessarily responding fuels more people to keep doing it just to get more responses out of him (hence making drama worse and worse)
Id like to think that if it had taken longer for dream to reach the level of fame hes at now, then maybe hed behave a little better. It seems to me that most of his controversies come from him not knowing or understanding just how big his reach is and the responsibility that comes with that. I think that Dream just blew up so fast that he never had time to adjust, and so he still behaves with the mindset of a youtuber with like...a few hundred thousand subscribers, not understanding the huge concequences his actions have.
I was willing to buy that the first few dramas he stumbled into, but at this point I dunno, he's had years to work it out and he's still fumbling this bad. Either he's knowingly or unknowingly stupid.
i used to think that also, but now i realize he is simply not a good person
Oh he knows what his reach are, hes just putting on the uwu im innocent bwabwie soft eboy bullshit that gets his 12 years old stans to defend him.
he's just the epitome of don't feed the trolls. like just don't. it only proves their point
I think it was the worst move for him to hype it up. It would have been better if he passively did it once and then confirmed he will never do it again. Its too late now. I never could understand the ridicule. Just looks like a normal guy to me.
My understanding of the internet is that the ridicule isn't always directly related to the feature people are ridiculing, but rather their general opinion of the person. I think most people would say he's an average to good looking guy under usual circumstances. But people dislike him, so they went for his appearance, especially since he hyped it up so much and essentially painted a target on his back for the people who don't like him
Prime example of this is in kpop fandom spaces. Pretty hard to deny that most kpop idols are good looking, but the minute there's a controversy or dislike for someone their appearance will get dragged through the mud. Haters will go for the easiest thing they can I suppose
Seriously all of this could be solved by hiring a social media manager. It's not an expensive role to hire and puts a buffer layer between you and the audience that's proven to be very valuable for huge creators.
hello local young brown gal checking in, first off this made me subscribe, second of all, you literally hit the nail on the head about all of this. ever since i got into mcyt my OVERWHELMING feeling has been that dream DESPERATELY needs a PR manager. it's not "inauthentic" to have someone there to prevent you from giving into your worst impulses to Post. frankly he/his fanbase (as well as awsten knight from waterparks and his fanbase) literally made me go back to school for a masters degree because the insane level of WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING and YOUR BEHAVIOUR EGGS ON THE WORST CORNERS OF YOUR FANBASE STOP feeling i was having every day frustrated me so much that i was like ok i need to actually formally research this because i know there's a correlation here. oversharing, getting too personal, creating hierarchies within your fanbase (for more on this check out the Card Thing That Happened At Vidcon) all create this overly friendly environment that makes your fans skew incredibly UNHEALTHILY parasocial (and i maintain parasociality is not inherently bad, i just think some creators foster it to extremes in a way that is irresponsible) and feel the need to go full attack dog about every little thing when instead you could just... chill and be chill and enjoy your success with them.
i wish pinely touched more on the extreme parasocial relationship between dream and his fans in this video, bc you're totally right about how unhealthy it is and i'd like to see an analysis about how that's fostered. every day i wake up grateful that john & hank green/vlogbrothers were the first content creators i was a fan of (like 10 years ago now) bc i have yet to see a fan base healthier than theirs. and what's the Card Thing That Happened At Vidcon? i couldn't find anything about it when i searched for it
also congrats on pursuing your masters! hopefully you can figure out what sparks these dumpster fires 😭
@@mueggsy yeah absolutely i think hank and john do a really good job of still being friendly with their fans in a way that feels youtuber and personable and not in the sort of colder distant way traditional celebrities interact with fans while still maintaining and recognizing the professional boundaries and inherent power dynamics that are at play in those interactions. i feel the same mostly because my first real fandoms were bands and this was back in like 2008 so social media and stan culture wasnt the way it is now so i feel like i got to feel "closer" to my favs while still not feeling like our relationship was anything more than creator-fan or expecting anything super personal or intrusive.
so at vidcon dream and some of his friends/employees were handing out these cards to a select group of fans (a lot of them bigger twitter accounts but i'm not sure if they were all given out this way) but it was extremely limited (i believe i read somewhere they made 50 cards and didn't even hand them all out) and anyone who got a card also got a passcode phrase for a website that was essentially a tour announcement/ticket buying site. so he gave this very specific group of mostly big name fans exclusive first access to these tickets. i think personally creating hierarchies and having clear favourites is one of theeeee worst things a creator can do to foster a healthy fanbase because it makes fans do really extreme things for attention in the hopes of achieving that status and also makes them have a lot of infighting as well because of the clear favouritism so i have no idea WHY he thought this was a good idea. i don't even think it's unnatural to recognize certain fans you see a lot in your mentions or whatever but don't make it so obvious that youre on first name basis with them and clearly like them more than the fans that maybe are more shy or keep to themselves.
thank you!! i hope so too, i'm still trying to figure out the best way to actually do the research because it's not a topic i think a lot of really overly parasocial fans are eager to discuss because no one thinks /they're/ the problem or doing something wrong but... I HOPE I CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE SOMEHOW. i really just want to create some kind of general guidelines to help foster healthy fanbases if i can figure out what they should be through research.
apologies for the ESSAY i will be quiet now
i genuinely could not agree with you any more on this !! i may ramble a bit here because i am absolutely fascinated (and a little unnerved by) by this topic and am SO glad/excited to hear that there are people dedicated to researching it. i watched a very well made video essay on the relatively new medium of “parasocial horror” once; ever since then every time i think about unhealthy audience/creator relationships it leads me back to exactly what you mentioned. fanbases that grew in size unnaturally quickly and didn’t give the creator time to gradually learn how to interact with their audience, fans unwilling to accept their own dangerous tendencies, creators that foster those dangerous tendencies either intentionally or via a failure to set proper boundaries, etc. we as humans aren’t capable of maintaining “real” relationships with that many people at once, so if creators put off the impression that they CAN do this with each individual member of their audience (ex. dream setting up a texting line for his fans) expectations and the desperation to get their attention in any way possible skyrockets leading to… well. really weird shit LMAO
i’ve noticed that the popular creators i watch who don’t seem to foster this behavior and do a good job of setting boundaries both a) have been online WAY longer and are generally older than dream and b) stay offline as much as possible when they’re not creating to decompress/ignore trolling and bait by simply. not seeing it. so i’m convinced there must be some kind of correlation there !! (basically touching grass does actually seem to prevent a lot of these worst case scenarios)
jesus okay sorry to talk for that long but genuinely thank you so much for dedicating your time to this because i really do believe it will only get more important as time goes on !! the scariest thing about this is that internet parasociality is a relatively new concept hasn’t quite been happening for long enough for us to really see the long-term effects yet, so i think it’s important to monitor stuff like this to try and set some guide lines for future creators and their fanbases. basically you’re doing important work and i went a little insane that there are other people out there as interested in this topic as i am so i appreciate your time if you read/skimmed all this LMAOO
@simashakeri95 wow okay the Card Thing is literally so so bad. like for all the reasons you listed, but also gatekeeping in fandoms is a problem anyway but i can't imagine how bad it must be in a fandom where some fans can say "actually i am a bigger fan than you and i know dream better, here is the Offical Card i was given to prove it."
yeah now that you mention it research is going to be trickier to navigate since no fan whose parasociality is a problem is really gonna recognize it as such. like i hesitate to call it culty bc a lot of things are called cultlike that aren't cultlike but it feels really culty to me?? like people only recognize it for what it was once they're out and not while they're in it, there's the idolization of the charasmatic figurehead, that figurehead rewarding devotion (dream for sure does this, some other creators probably), and how the members are utilized by the figurehead to carry out their will... am i stretching here??? i hope i'm stretching here
@@rain_upon_glass omg thank you this is seriously so validating because i feel so crazy any time i try to explain it irl in class bc i feel like it's also one of those things you only really See if you're really in the know about fandom conceptually so i struggle to explain it to people that are more offline than i am. first off i am def going to look for that video essay, because it sounds fascinating. the desperation and really weird shit is so real, i know in my og comment i mentioned the band waterparks and even though their fandom is very small because the band isn't super well known, because the lead singer gets so personal with fans and basically rewards extreme behaviour with interaction, i've observed people getting more and more intense about it to the point where i think they are seriously getting multiple tattoos for the validation of a like on twitter from him (and i'm not saying this out of some form of judgement for fandom tattoos i think they can be done well... i just don't think tattooing lyrics that you heard for the first time earlier that week is... wise or something that is happening for the right reasons). anyway thank you for the reply i totally agree, i've been looking for previous research and there's SO little out there and most of it is super outdated but i absolutely think it's going to become more and more relevant with how prevalent social media is, esp as people grow up having been in the thick of this their entire adolescent lives because i think when it's all you dedicate yourself to it's hard to be well-adjusted. SO THANK YOU i also love that other people are on the same train of thought as me because it helps solidify that the research is something with potential and not just BS in my head.
Also, awhile back people were asking why he didn’t invite more non-white members to the dream smp and his answer was pretty much that they weren’t visible enough. Engaging with different creators isn’t hard, and if he wanted to prioritize that he would’ve.
he literally had multiple non-white creators with prominent followings independent of the dream smp express interest in joining the dream smp and never did anything about it
He doesn't even care dude.
Major story writers for DSMP is Wilbur and Quackity and probably Technoblade , ranboo , tubbo and Tommy , but mostly the first 2.
Dream never does any lore.
Dream’s excessive use of the word love makes me both fearful and uncomfortable
the dog grooming clip when mentioning his response to the allegations 💀
I really appreciate you mentioning that feeling of seeing something we're not supposed to know about. I feel that way about a lot of "internet receipts" situations (and before that was even a thing, with the over-involvement in celebrities' lives), and although I know it's probably a common experience, it's easy to feel like no one else feels that way at times.
idk anything about Dream except that he looks like a dehydrated Shane Dawson and its hilarious to me that he did the backlash to himself by roping in his famous friends to all overactingly gush about how handsome he was. even if he came out like the perfect combo of Leo, Brad and Jonny in their prime, people would still call him ugly just to be against that hype
shane and dream also made weird tweets abt cats
@@symphonia4578And they're also both racist and groomers. They're literally the same person at this point.
This whole situation just makes the fact that Stampy ghosted/ left Dream on read in 2020 even funnier
I worked with a girl, 17 or 18, that responded to dream with something slightly quippy. It wasnt even hate, just poking light fun, as they were actually a fan of dream. Dream responded and this lead to them getting near doxxed along with constant death threats toward them
Honestly the multilingual server drama is so damn funny to me because it's obvious Quackity dosent care about whatever dream is doing, but Dream keeps just bothering him about it 💀
The informercial clip of the lady brushing the dog, very clever. The editing of this is just nice.
I feel like dream had three phases
1. Minecraft unsolved, genuinely good, high quality, underrated content.
2. DreamSMP/Manhunt phase, usually very interesting, but both were dragged on for way to long and by then end of them it was safe to say he ran out of ideas
3. Literally going insane, uh yea.
Before he had a million subscribers, his content was great. Authentic, just chilling with his friends with not everything being hyper-edited. Then things changed.
before even starting to create content he was a pretty chill dude, i would see him in the background of badboyhalo and skeppy’s vids since he was an admin in bbh’s server. he seemed like a genuinely cool dude but i was NOT expecting what he was gonna become 😭😭
i hate people like Dream that are so egotistical with their fame that they can’t take any criticism.
Thats like sssniperwolf-
@@joOoYiknowyoureinthere "ahhhh hell nah" xd
Dream was the most uninteresting guy in the DSMP I don’t understand how people like his content. I guess there’s truly a taste for everything.
the mystery was the biggest thing he had going for him imo. teenage girls fixated on that and the "crumbs" he would share about his personal life
I liked his manhunt because it was slow but intense (I was also a child) but mostly it was interesting. Who's this random teletubby? How is he fighting off 2 guys while speedrunning? What strategies he uses?
It kinda interested in me. But I didn't like anything else. The manhunts were good .
Dream responding to serious grooming allegations: guys i didn't do it unu
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The religious texts were compiled by different religious communities into various official collections. The earliest contained the first five books of the Bible. It is called the Torah in Hebrew and the Pentateuch (meaning five books) in Greek; the second oldest part was a collection of narrative histories and prophecies (the Nevi'im); the third collection (the Ketuvim) contains psalms, proverbs, and narrative histories. "Tanakh" is an alternate term for the Hebrew Bible composed of the first letters of those three parts of the Hebrew scriptures: the Torah ("Teaching"), the Nevi'im ("Prophets"), and the Ketuvim ("Writings"). The Masoretic Text is the medieval version of the Tanakh, in Hebrew and Aramaic, that is considered the authoritative text of the Hebrew Bible by modern Rabbinic Judaism. The Septuagint is a Koine Greek translation of the Tanakh from the third and second centuries BC; it largely overlaps with the Hebrew Bible.
Christianity began as an outgrowth of Second Temple Judaism, using the Septuagint as the basis of the Old Testament. The early Church continued the Jewish tradition of writing and incorporating what it saw as inspired, authoritative religious books. The gospels, Pauline epistles, and other texts quickly coalesced into the New Testament.
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All I knew was that he was a cheater at speedrunning and made racist characters in his little show from time to time...this is wild
theres sm more than that as well, saw a twt thread about EVERYTHING and it had almost every single tw there is
He also made creepy comments towards teenagers on stream multiple times and is an alleged groomer
@@jessiegeerdes5572 Tbf, the term "alleged groomer" literally has ZERO meaning on the internet. Literally anybody a person dislikes is accused of being a """groomer""", without explaining what that even means, and seeming to not fit the actual definition at all. And "alleged" literally means...alleged. By anybody. So, that's nothing. It's such a nothing phrase, and yet people will gasp in shock and take it for fact because I guess it's the magic words of the internet right now. Kind of like how "gaslighting" was the magic words of the internet a couple years ago. And "emotionally manipulative" was the magic words a little before that. Etc. etc.
Anyway, I still don't really know who this Dream guy is, but this part of the internet I never knew about seems weird, and filled with weirdos. I don't like them, but not because I have any moral superiority over them. I just don't like them.
@@penguinsrbirds2ultiple women came forward with proof and dream admitted that the dms he sent a 17 year old fan were real
@@penguinsrbirds2 also has multiple times on stream made sexual comments towards minors as young as 13 blamed said minors for bringing up their ages and making him uncomfortable and tried to trick a 16 year old boy into preforming a sex act with Minecraft characters
I think this is your best work yet.
Even better than your role on Arrested Development!
I was surprised to find out George Bluth Sr. Was making video essays, but I like em.
Gotta admit, your delirious ramblings in-between trying to make a point are pretty funny.
when i’m sitting here binging pinely while i do chores and you post a video literally as i refresh your channel 😭🙏
If quackity wanted to talk to dream he would have. It's none of our business why quackity won't respond. I think his silence is louder than anything because look how weird dream was being.
My main problem with dream (that I’m aware of) is that it seems like he’s allergic to community moderation and interacting with the public responsibly. My dude does not seem capable of actively dealing with the fact that he does have a decent proportion of toxic fans. Everybody has them, but he doesn’t seem to even attempt to excise them and he doesn’t seem to change his actions so that those toxic fans don’t have a target.
Dude needs to hire a social media manager, a PR manager, and needs to genuinely needs to take the advice of other TH-camrs that have existed for longer than he has. This is why I really think super young people shouldn’t be internet famous. He’s not mentally mature enough, and it’s not just him, I think the same thing applies to IShowSpeed.
Love your videos! Especially your aesthetic, you probably put a shitton of work into making them
Well, it makes sense that someone who grew primarily as a result of his understanding of a specific internet psyche and content style could not escape the reality that he in many ways *is* the culture he created, and that perhaps people who don't know or enjoy that culture would not react well to an argumentative man playing out what might seem like a massive ego for basically every corner of the internet, especially after all the controversy he has started or played out. It's a sad situation, but I don't think I would be out of line in saying that this isn't very surprising.
facts!!!
Dream doesn't know how to live the dream.
The problem with dream is that he's an extreme introvert narcissist.
He loves the attention but isn't used to the Internet's endless picking apart of everything, take this comment for example.
i feel like dream would’ve had a lot less controversies if he would just learn to shut up
"I'm a young, brown guy!" Man, this shit killed me. I really dig the way this highlighted more how being a TH-camr with all these people watching and commenting on certain details can bring out insecurities that might cause reactions that some might call regrettable. You're a handsome gentleman, Pinely, which you're probably aware of but that's a fact that we just all need to come to terms with. I get that was a joke in the vid about that George Bluth comment but I figured I'd set the record straight here.
Guys I’m beginning to think Pinely is in fact NOT an old white man but a young brown guy. Sounds crazy I know but think about it!
honestly, going out in public with only the mask feels like a much worse idea than just...keeping his face out?
like personally if i was a hardcore dream stan and i saw him without the mask in public i'd be like "oh is that dream? oh but it could be a random stranger and that would be super embarrassing if i asked"
but if i saw him with the mask i would be like "omg dream!!!!!"
my point is he's so much more recognizable now and thats so much more dangerous
It was a marketing thing ofc he would never do that
Dream basically trying to manipulate quackity into responding, it’s so insane because why did he think airing out their dirty laundry to his obviously toxic and impressionable audience. He’s setting quackity up to be harassed.
"I AM A YOUNG BROWN GUY, DOCTOR HAN!"
i think quackity’s server was a genuine passion project to finally allow himself to show off all parts of his identity and culture, while dreams was just a way to make a more universal cash grab
The more I see cases like this, the more and more SovietWomble's streaming preference for avoiding a face cam because he doesn't like mugging to a camera sounds like a good idea. Gave him an insulating distance from his fanbase, further reinforced by him engaging in self-deprecating humor and he and his friends just going no holds barred on mocking each other. Thus, no fanbase that had built up some obsessive mental image of him as some secret adonis. He also didn't make a big deal about his eventual face reveal either, sticking it in as a final gag in a 3-hour-long video essay.
The reaction to the reveal that Womble was a regular-looking British dude in his 30s has been the polar opposite of Dream's, where you have fans split on being surprised and calling him handsome, even hot, (and jokingly, mostly, simping for him) to being in denial about that being his real face because they'd expected him to look "nerdier" based on all the jokes at his expense over the years.
Well, that and Womble and ZF Clan not being shy about putting their foot down with their fans, compared to Dream being afraid to defy them. Also, despite joking about himself as being a supposedly out of contact shut-in with only a dog for company, his Tweets show the dude regularly touches grass and actually gets out to walk his dog around, even interacting with other dog owners.
One thing that always struck me is that quackity is a bilingual creator who makes content in both languages. has freind groups in both languages qsmp is something that makes a whole lot of sense for him to do and it was such a weird moment to see dream try to assert ownership over that concept
I still don't understand how more TH-camrs don't just retire. Dream set out to get a million subscribers, he surpassed that super quickly and probably made a whole bunch of money off his videos. That's it right? You accomplished what you set out to do, now go enjoy the fruits of your labor while you're still young. Why stick around and fulfil two faces quote from The Dark Knight "die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"? Fred let his character go and bought a ranch house! Now he just does whatever he wants. If I were a famous TH-camr I would do the same.
he’s only been a famous youtuber for like 3 years. Not nearly long enough to retire. If he’s been going at it as long as markiplier, then maybe i’d see it as the time to retire.
technically he can retire whenever he wants. i def feel like he should have retired at his peak instead of doing and being… whatever this is
This video keeps aging better and better
I smiled so hard during this video - but the ending, that's when I just broke out laughing! You are a very, very talented comedian and writer. Your delivery is top notch. Not only is what you say very relevant, but you say everything with that twinkle in the eye that makes it even better. Thank you for the laugh!
I'm still salty that he rigged the mob vote infavor of the objectively worst mob of the three.
I agree
this video gets more and more relevant every day 😭
If I ever become an author, I'll be under a pseudonym and trying to be as mysterious as possible. The reason relevant to this is because if I become popular, people will only be able to criticize my work because they'll have next to no information on me as a person.
I can't believe George Bluth Sr. started a TH-cam video and knows so much about Dream.
Pinely is NOT a man, he is a GUY
Wat? Wat mean?
a dude
What difference
@@Grungo-ko6sg One is a man, one is a guy
maybe even.. the guy?
Reminder dream fans bullyed a cat insta account off the Internet because they owed a jshlatt plushy and dream did nothing
I swear dreams fanatics are the worst fan base on the internet, thier so illogical and delusional, it baffles me just how mentally ill they all are, I don't get it.
I'm not joking idk why this ain't more talked about
can't help but imagine the acronym "SMP" is "slimy minecraft people"
“singleplayer multiplayer playerplayer”
hey Pinely looks like john malkovich
too soon
I cant take Dream describing Quackity ghosting seriously because all I can imagine is that Chocolate episode of SpongeBob where patrick goes "I love you."
i live an hour away from dream and everyday i fear that i’ll run into him in a walmart
This was a very cool video, I think painting this story from dreams perspective made the viewer feel much more connected to his mental state and how he jumped to some conclusions. Very cool, thank you Pinely
The whole smp thing should have been resolved behind closed doors
👏the👏whole👏smp👏thing👏should👏have👏been👏resolved👏behind👏closed👏doors👏
Imagine trying to reload a old save file irl
He literally promotes parasocial relationships with every move he makes. It's completely insane that he does it. He purposefully made his own fanbase one of the most toxic one's ever. It's like he is actively trying to kill his career.
He should have been honest and told people how he really looked instead of saying i have blonde hair and green eyes" that made all the stans angry
Tbh as a brown person I just assumed he really did have blond hair and green eyes since white people seem to have a different perception on what is blond/e and brunet/te. Plus I wasn't exactly so invested in his supposed features to zoom into his eyes like some weirdo to see if it was "gorgeous, deep emerald green oRbS"
"People online are bastards who will use anything online to bash your looks"
Amen🙏
I don't think anyone is ready for success
Some people just are more comfortable with success than others