Exposing A Film Festival Scam (w/ chad chad)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2023
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chad chad and I uncover the secret world of horrible film festival, it's really scary.
@thechadx2
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evil pinely:
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pinely’s 10 year old brother has a promising future in film writing
Ok but seriously i hope thats not just sarcasm because you are 100% right
@@cookimaus1 IM BEING FR! I don’t think i would’ve ever come up with something this detailed at ten years old. I hope pinely’s brother sees all the comments of people loving the plot
@@glowvxn i noticed that pinely shortened the complete film so i hope he releases the uncut version
i agree 100% like damn
At least kids books, this would be a adorable book
genuinely love the way your brother re-used "tiny town of only 17 acres". like im being 100% genuine, thats some good prose, especially for a ten year old.
I completely agree I couldn't let that tidbit go when it first came up and when he reused it at the conclusion I lost my shit
I loved when it kept being brought up 😂
It's like something from an epic saga.
i demand a standalone version of the full movie so i can send it to my friends and family without any context
Big same.
There's a link in the description isn't there? Or did you mean something else?
Ok but I’m lowkey into Alien Cake’s aesthetic and character design. Y’all were robbed of that award.
For the art, style, I can unironically see it being an adult cartoon show. But considering the state of that genre rn, I'm not sure if it's a compliment or a diss.
Hoo😢pra😮i 2:20
They may have gotten robbed of that award but he sure as hell still put it on the poster lol
High-key, Orr is talented at drawing
Kinda want that poster tbh
pinely's brother is a SCAB for working through the writer's strikes!! he must be blacklisted from the industry NOW!!!
Pinely should also be blacklisted for the use of CHILD LABOR to write this project!
@@octochan TRUE
What does SCAB mean?
@@random_dragonscabs are non-union workers brought in to undermine strikes
@@random_dragonso a scab is someone who crosses the picket line during a strike, basically someone who decides to do the work when everyone else is striking. It’s a bad thing. But this is a joke.
the story pinely’s brother came up with is kinda real. the main character’s struggle only being able to achieve his goal of selling the yummiest cakes by committing atrocious acts against another sentient species… truly sublime. a reference to speciesism which humans perpetuate all too often, as well as a lesson against having your alien cake and eating it too.
Pinely's brother is vegan, so... kinda cool of him to have a moral message in his weird story
@@creepycat378wait what
@@cookimaus1yeah, he's vegan. Pinely mentioned it in a previous video
Truly a deep and thought provoking narrative.
Gotta recommend the comic series Voracious for a kinda similar premise.
9 minutes in yelling “checkov’s gun!! it’s checkov’s gun!!” at my screen
Glad this wasn’t only me
Hearing them awfully fail at remembering chekhovs gun had me SCREAMING. Especially when Chad Chad called it foreshadowing 😭
It weirdly brought me a significant amount of joy. Though admittedly I am a very sick person.
its so real thpugh, i always forget what its called too
At least she wasn’t wrong lol
I just wanna say that I love this video, but I think that my favorite part was when Pinely lost in a competition where he was the only contestant.
I was laughing so hard at that my belly and face started to hurt lmfao. "we were worse than NOTHING"
Really makes you think
This could unironically be an Adult Swim short, your little brother is a genius, and your art and both your voice acting is brilliant.
I don't think pinley realizes how good his character designs and art are
OMG TRUEEEE IT'S SO DISTINCT. And the background and colors are just so pretty and nice
I love his art style. It's so much fun looking
Those designs would have absolutely killed it on Adult Swim back in the 00’s-early 10’s
I thought he only wrote the story.
his brother wrote the story@@SaintShion
can’t believe your brother is already an Award-Winning Screenwriter at age 10, his resume is gonna be FIRE
You might not see this, but I'd like to thank you for bringing attention to this. I'm a recent film school grad. Almost all of us at my school have wasted money at these sketchy film festivals at some point. Years ago I even got an "honorable mention" at one of the festivals you would later win, lol. After submitting to a few, I realized what was going on and stopped. My peers look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them I'm never going to submit to these no-name festivals again. It's sort of an unspoken BS thing you're expected to do when you're starting out, as it's "just part of the game" and to rack up as many laurels as you can. It's sort of inescapable because starting out, you probably won't get into the festivals that matter; so "something" is better than nothing, right? That's where these scam artists make their money, by preying on unexperienced hungry dreamers. Thank you, Pinely, for shedding light onto this as it's a huge gripe of mine that isn't spoken about enough.
That’s such an interesting perspective! I kinda assumed this was just a scam directed at people who don’t know any better, didn’t think people who are actually considering movie making as their future career path would be spending money on stuff like that.
@@mar-nyan Yeah, the more laurels racked up the more important the film looks on the outside, but the same could be done with less laurels if you get into an actual lower tier festival such as the Florida Film Festival (that is also academy award qualifying) which has an early bird deadline at similar cost as these no name festivals. Some no name festivals have in person award shows (where they rent out a small theater and / or hotel conference room and screen shorts) that they’ll tell you to go to as a networking opportunity to meet other filmmakers… but you can also find local facebook film groups online that hold in person mixers where you can network for free... so I'm satisfied with skipping the no-names. I can understand people going to the in person events and maybe getting something out of it, but I actively discourage submitting to the online ones, especially ones that offer “guarantee placement” before you even enter.
Brave of Pinely to admit he's never turned into a donut
Couldn’t waterboard that info outta me fr
Not yet at least...
Actually, it's only girls that can turn into donuts. Boys turn into churros, and nonbinary people become funnel cakes. Transforming into fried pastries is just a very adult topic that Pinely's brother is too young to fully understand.
This video is actually so sweet and adorable. As an educator i will never get tired of seeing kids writing projects.
Your brother is actually pretty good at tieing his loose ends together for a elementary school writing level! Also all writers hate titling and describing their work! This is a fact of life
Pinely, I will gladly pay five entire dollars for an exclusive interview about your masterpiece of a movie.
I'll pay $6 for it
$2.50, take it or leave it
0.5% of a Euro. That's what I'd pay.
I’d pay ₽0.01
i pay exposure to oxygen and carbon dioxide for it
For a ten year old, that story is actually really well done. I hope he puts that talent to use in the future
Me screaming “CHEKHOV’S GUN” at my phone screen repeatedly as if you can hear me lmao
THIS YES
such a groundbreaking story, definitely a big step forward for alien rights
And a step backwards for human rights.
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeitas an alien i can confirm that that is a net win
@@mammoneymelon did I state anything to the contrary?
This whole time I was trying to telepathically tell you guys that it’s called ‘chekhov’s gun’ but my telepathy sucks ass so I thought this comment might be just as helpful
Also the phrase “I’m the winning boy” is actually the funniest thing I’ve heard in a very long time and I’ve been saying it all day and I’m not even a boy
I'm sure your telepathy is fine, you just can't transmit your thoughts backwards through time (yet).
Big Succession energy
We should replace all the ai writing programs with your 10 year old brother
Okay but as an animator and artist, im genuinely so impressed with your newby animation. Like this is unironically super cute and campy. The alien with the button is my favorite. 😭 I'll probably get a poster.
Pinely's brother's contributions to this channel's success is immeasurable. Dude better be getting a fat check on his 18th birthday lol
Procreate actually has a whole animation feature
every comment I've seen that mentions this throws another dagger into my soul
@@Pinelyallow me to add a stab of my own: it also has a feature literally called "animation assist" specifically meant to make it easier for newbies
Could you please post the complete director's cut of Alien Cake as its own video? I can hardly wait to see it as a part of the Spike and Mike's Animation Festival.
The animation and writing has some real 2000’s/early 2010’s Flipnote Hatena energy and I love it.
Flipnote Hatena! Really takes me back.
I miss flipnotes
this is literally every media industry 😮💨 I was flabbergasted to find out the tiny independent bookshop I worked for made money by getting paid to buy thousands of copies of conservative books in order to get those books on best seller lists.
Pinely are you sure your brother isn’t a genius scriptwriter? Maybe have him apply to fancy movie schools
idk why but the term “movie schools” instead of “film schools” made me chuckle
No one tell Pinely that there’s an animation assist program in procreate or he will lose his mind
I was across the room when Pinely was chanting "alien cake" so it really sounded like "alien kink" but, having forgotten what the film was called, I didn't question it
Okay actually i gotta say, i love the aesthetic of alien cake, especially the backgrounds and actual aliens, the watercolor is so cool
alien cake truly is peak cinema, your brother deserves the title of winning boy for making this as well
i will say that as a person who was once a toddler that tried to animate, this is far more impressive than any of my many works
and i was using an actual animation software
As a British person, I don't mind a villain having a British accent. However, why would an alien from another planet have an accent from Earth?
Ask Voltron that one
Say that to Dr. Who lol
Bc she’s the queen duh
Because she's the wueen
Convergent evolution
when my brother was a middle-schooler he wrote a story about a "magic meer" (yes he spelled it that way the whole way through) and like halfway through he completely lost any semblance of plot. there was toxic waste and both of the main characters mutated into random horrifying creatures and did a big monster fight
basically what i'm saying is i think this is what is inside the head of all 10-year-old boys?? it always comes back to mutated monster fights
As an animation grad whose thesis film is in festival circuits at the moment, I feel SO CALLED OUT right now
Alien Cake actually has a very poignant message about how easy it is to loose track of what you're fighting for, and I think that's beautiful.
Okay but when Orr was talking about how excited his brother was to see his idea come to life that made me so happy, it’s so sweet. It reminded me of when me my brother and my cousins would pretend we were in a rock band when we were kids and we would make posters and write songs that as adults are embarrassing but as kids were just fun. I don’t really know if I had a point lol but I thought Alien Cake was charming because of that and creativity should be encouraged more and not exploited by scams or something
I honestly really like the art in Alien cake. Something about the graininess just looks so cool to me
I was on another tab at 9:09 so hearing chad shout "Listen Victor!" scared the shit out of me. because that is my name. I was willing to believe that I was being yelled at through the video for a moment. I am a bit terrified now.
I see ChadChad, I click. I dont care what the videos about. Love to see her collabing with so many youtubers I enjoy.
Same
I hope we get more of this duo in the future!!
genuinely a wonderful script from your brother! the story was cohesive, characters distinguishable, the way it all came together like a cycle.
i like your videos and i adore chadchad, but the real star of this video is a lil' pinely.
this is eerily similar to predatory conferences/journals in the higher academic setting... look it up. I didn't expect to find the equivalent in the film industry lol
Listening to him talk about how miserable animation is while actively animating,,,, so true ! The style of Alien Cake is really fun fr though, you were snubbed.
You could probably get an award from an actual legit film festival if you just described this as a tribute to the old Cartoon Network Adult Swim shorts
Not only do we have this, Orr gets to show it to his brother in 10 years
It’s great that your giving smaller creators like chad chad on your channel!
And "little brother" even was featured! I have never seen a collab with him so for pinely to give him a platform is just wonderful to see (:
Wiggly??!!
@@Chromaggia starkid fan??!!
@@the_idiot_eris5029 starkid fan!!! :O
@@Chromaggiaguys what does this mean I feel like I’m missing out on an inside reference I wanna be included
i love that your brother was so happy about the film! you're a good big bro
also, i subscribed to you when you were doing pinely box content and gotta say it's always a treat to see your silly little drawings and animation pop back up again on your channel. thanks for the laughs with this vid, even if it didn't come out the way you expected it to it still made me feel really happy to see it so... idk thanks man
thanks!! Im absolutely looking for new ways to involve my drawings in my video again, just not in the way I used to I guess
Chad Chad and Pinely are a great duo, I don't need to watch this to know this simple truth ❤
Put them together and add in Kuncan Dastner and that would be peak podcasting.
Thank you Tiny Pine for the artistry
I hope you paid your writer well for this masterpiece
Pinely Jr. is the future of entertainment
Sounds like you just discovered the pay to publish "academic journal" scene. Those that write to you "Dear Prof ${name}" when you are still at student, and invite you to publish at the journal of agricultural and economical sciences when you are a mathematician
This just makes the Swedish award show a lot more credible than others lol.
MS Paint and Photoshop-or just a video with both-are such a niche yet amazing video type that I can’t get enough of. Thank you Pinely!
The most tense part of this video was wondering if Pinely would pay $200 to $300+ to prove a point. Him not doing so let me breath.
Instead, we got a happy ending of Pinely's brother getting to see his work come to life with both voice acting, animation, a poster, a shirt, and definitely legitimate awards. He scored when it came to brothers.
I would watch a whole channel's worth of videos just written by pinely's brother, this is better than most theatrical releases!
Honestly yeah
this reminds me of the "who's who" stuff that gets sent to high school students. where you are contacted for being a "great student" and then have to pay to have your face and bio included in a book, that you also have to pay more to get the book. except for films.
ok but where can we see the full uninterrupted award winning master piece that is the movie "Alien Cake"
it will be up on my second channel later today :)
lost track of what this video was about half way in and decided it must be the story of scientology
Low key alien cake is a good name for a punk band with a sci-fi aesthetic
I was just thinking about how much I wanted an Alien Cake poster and then you said I could buy one in the link and I am literally so thrilled
right! I just kinda wish I could get one without the awards. . :
I am just going to sit here for your brother to win that Oscar for best script, because he clearly deserves it.
i adore this alien cake script so much
As someone who just graduated film school and is starting to submit my capstone film to festivals this was actually great information to have. My respect goes out to the writer and team of alien cake. Truly deserving of best short film of all time.
But the important question is, are we getting a sequel?
Funny. I got an email from them as well and now I am an award winning subscriber of the Pinely channel. That trophy was not cheap.
Kinda weird how Mr. TH-camr took over this channel, hope Pinely is ok.
Good video, got that alien cake.
Your brother is now my favourite writer, this is awesome.
collab we needed
I came into this video expecting to learn about how the Oscars are rigged, but I was honestly enthralled by Chad Chad's amazing acting and the small child's beautiful writing. This 10 year old has a better grasp on writing and morals than most writers in Hollywood tbh. This was a story of how humans see themselves as above other species, but the "hero" of our movie is humbled and learns that he is not above others. Amazing. Truly transcendental.
Your brother is a great storywriter, no joke. Other 10 year olds would have made stories about simple kid stuff but this is a masterpiece.
Must feel good getting your first writing credit at the age of 10
In gr 12 of highschool one of the assignments for my writing class was to submit one of our works to a contest of our choice.
I submitted to some anthology contest and i can forever confidently say that i’m a published poet (i didn’t win, but still made the “final cut” where my poem would be printed and i could buy the book for $50😅)
I saw a bunch of these awards on the website for Neil Breen's latest film. Oh, Neil.. how could you...
Breen movies should be able to win film awards without having to pay for them. Right?... Right...?
I heard some academia conventions/awards are kinda similar, they tell you you've won some award in research but you gotta pay 1000$ to attend and accept it...
CHEKHOVS GUN CHEKHOVS GUN
Your little brother did a fantastic job and I'm glad that he got to enjoy the end result ✨
I really hope there are a bunch of animators recreating this masterpiece now
Can't wait to re-experience this over and over again!
I absolutely love your lighting and angles in each of your videos. You have a good grasp on the rule of thirds and the spotlight in this video was really cool!
is it just me or was alien cake script kind of fire its actually original and the plot makes about as much sense as most Shakespeare plots. And it has some really deep subtext about how and what people consume and their relationship with the world around them.
This hits different now that I'm trying to get my graduation animation into festivals.
I hope one day when his little brother is a grown adult he watches this and reflects on his masterpiece.
Also I love how little of a shit he gave about the name of the film. 😂
Currently fighting the urge to get a tattoo of donut Handrofolly. The art style is unironically so good.
Did anyone not let him know procreate has an animation mode lmao
Chekov’s gun: any insignificant thing that seems unnecessarily introduced to a story, and should come back as relevant later
i do animation for television for a living, and Pinely's misery with making the frames for the short film is very real and relatable.
We saw that you edited out a lot of parts in alien cake! Give us the pinely’s brother cut!
i always thought film festivals were a thing that people went to, like you could walk through the movie stalls and watch the new movies idk
you guys are actually inspiring me to delve into the world of animation
I just downloaded blender last night
Awesome to see these big collabs lately!
Also, your brother's script was genius. He's gonna make it big someday. I'll keep an eye out for Alien Cake II in cinemas.
You’re laughing. Your family got put into a cake and you’re laughing.
ngl, pinely's art style is kinda neat. It's crude and rough around the edges, but in a very deliberate way
Hi Pinely! I'm an animation student and i wanna say you did a really good job. Animation is really hard, and making something entertaining is really hard. I thought your animation was smooth and fun to watch, great job! 😁
this is the best collab ever lol
Being 100% honest I really really love the art of your short. It reminds me of those overly stylized and surreal 2000s-2010s Cartoon Network shows like MAD or Uncle Grandpa
Risk of rain music absolutely makes me nostalgic. Thank you for putting that ear work into my brain again.
pinely there's an animation assist tool in procreate 😭