Is Panerai a True Watchmaker? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Audemars Piguet-these three eminent companies are known to be some of the best watchmakers in the world. And deservedly so, contributing for centuries to the tapestry of watchmaking, building a rich, illustrious history of mechanical ingenuity and invention. You’ll notice Panerai is not on that list-here’s why.
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The quality and professionalism of these videos are second to none
You mean '...seconds to none'. Haha
Panerai fit and finish stands above my Rolex models. It just does under a macro lens.
Jenni Elle is almost comparable
In truth, it's an advertisement. It can be compared to videos made by enthousiasts.
Was never a fan of Panerai honestly. Until this. I love this. The color, the movement, ugh that movement is awesome.
Chad R same here, the Luminor I think it’s is named is to plain Jane. This watch in video is stunning.
Chad R Agreed, that is lovely. Have you seen their manual wind with an Explorer style dial? It’s very nice!
interesting--Most all of their watches look just like this. Ive always liked the style if the Panerais. Not too flashy but you can tell its a very nice watch from afar.
Waterproof 50meters???
Panerai is awesome, i just bought my first panerai the PAM 177..and i love it!!
I don’t care what type of watch nerd you are, this is absolutely beautiful from all angles. Five stars from me.
Might not be one of the very best brands, but it is certainly in its own category with a distinctive style. Recognizable by most enthusiasts
Recognizable indeed... but one of the best things is that you can wear a Panerai watch without showing off.
Everyone recognizes a Rolex for instance and know you are wearing something expensive... yet only the true watch enthusiasts recognize a Panerai.
One of my favourite brands, I think they make gorgeous looking watches.
Is Lamborghini not an automobile company because they originated with farm equipment?
Well said. Any company can evolve as long as there is a will and means to do it. And of course a certain Ferruccio Lamborghini that is a competitive basterd :D
Correct.
And is Lamborghini not a real italian made car when audi makes its lion share of the parts in Germany.😉
Nokia started as manufacturer of rubber boots
He did say Panerai was a watch company. The question is whether Panerai a true watch maker or not; fair question to me.
Even Toyota was originally a fabric looming company...
I want to thank this channel for providing real professional and informative reviews without the normal youtube click bait garbage. I've watched a ton on this channel and I'd like to say well done sir! Keep up the good work. Thank you.
“You could call it try hard and I suppose it is”
I love this channel
Also very well researched. You depicted the situation of the brand very well.
A friend of mine bought his Panerai around 10 years ago and it's the defining piece of his wardrobe now. It's sporty, it's fresh, it is present. And it's a brand he says, he can travel through developing countries with the peace of mind, that no one will notice that it's a luxury watch and attempt to steal it. Try the same with a Rolex...
Thats very true, i do the same with mine, i enjoy it a lot!
Its boring
Well if it's a gold Panerai, it will get knock off as well😂
If u worry about that, wear a Casio mate. I own a vintage, retro Casio, look classy, subtle and walk around without any worry. I wear my luxury watches only when I’m in a city that safe enough to walk around with one. Unless u have a whole different purpose of wearing one in a developing countries, if u know what I mean, then be prepared to get robbed.
Yes but many of those developing countries have a factory Rolex service center.
I wasn’t sure I’d like a Panerai but it’s been one of the most wonderful watch purchases I have made. I’m still surprised in how few people know how wonderful they are.
Panerai is one of those 'understatedly' artistic and elegant watches. The 'true watchmakers' [and also, especially, Rolex] that the video mentions are most often 'gaudy' and 'tacky' in terms of design - soo over-the-top!
"I’m still surprised in how few people know how wonderful they are." - so true! :)
Non owners are the ones that moan about them. I love them.
That is the most beautiful Panerai i have ever seen
Pam 1117 Pam 1118
Was never a fan of Panerai. Almost bought one few months ago. I am more convinced now. Brilliant piece. Beautiful. Many thanks
A great day is had when watchfinder releases a video!
Those macro shots are ridiculous, bravo.
Love you for this particular background music...
Just imagine they would create a 34mm radiomir, it would be like one of the old Cushion case Rolex's from the 40s. (and the perfect size for my wrist.)
My bank account would sweat nervously.
Brilliant piece, beautifully shot and nicely described. Thank you for this great video!
Outstanding video. I love the way this channel drives the point across by pushing out the obvious and making you think about what is really going on... wonderful!!! cheers
this model looks gorgeous. thanks for the unbelievably super detailed macro shots
I believe the in-house caliber and the love and research behind it is what gives a watch its soul or life rather than it just being a mere tool to tell the time!
I rarely comment, but I have to say that this is one of my favorite videos you've done. Bravo.
never took much notice of Panerai until this great video - beautiful watch - love the sunburst brown/gold. Stunning movement.
Paul Sydney Australia
this is one of the most beautiful watches ever made in my opinion. i love panerais, even tho i cant afford one by far.
u will, put it in your wishlist. I waited and drool for roughly a decade or more before getting my PAM last year.
Buy a replica, they are so good that even the people who work in the original factory in switzerland cannot distinguish.
Just buy less cars and houses and just live a month on the cheap. I only buy 3 new cars every 3 years(on lease) you don’t need more then a daily driver(Maserati Quattroporte GTS) a Grovery vehicle(Volvo XC90 Recharge T8) and just a fun car for the weekend(Ariel Atom) those are not the most expensive cars. But this way I don’t spend a ton on cars. And buy nice watches 2-3 times per year.
@@ernestoditerribile lol i went from cars to chicks thinking they would be less expensive 😖
I had the original base Pam 000 for about 15 years now and added the Pam 1110 this last week. I would pick up a 502 in a second all while waiting to get my hands on a Patek or an AP.
Finally, a legitimate Panerai review. am on my third Panerai in 16 years and am not done yet.
When I first became very interested in watches, I never liked the big Panerai watches....now I own one, a PAM 01535 GMT and love it.
I think this is the first time in my life I've ever considered a Panerai, what a gorgeous watch...
Love the look of those leaf shaped hands and the shape of the 24 hour indicator. Kind of cute.
I love my Panerai watches. Such lines and legible dials. I love the new Carbotech lone of Panerai as it is amazingly tough and well constructed and the in-house p9010 movement is outstanding. Very Bespoke.
The running seconds hand that
returns to zero when the crown is
pulled is quite a feat.
Beautiful detail.
10minutes gone in no time, beautiful watch, great video!
I like what you said, "Does Panerai even need to be considered a true watch maker? Probably not. It hasn't hurt Rolex." Very provoking (in good way) video and statements, but that is what we like about this channel. Every episode is a surprise of some sort, like this one. Well done, the creator!
Great vid, would love to see a Montblanc equivalent with something like the Nicolas Rieussec Chronograph Automatic
Love Panerais, they have the advantage (or disadvantage) of being extremely distinctive - more so than all the other brands mentioned in this video.... Might be my next watch purchase - or perhaps a Ball...
Your videos deserve an academy award!
I once won a Panerai at a charity event. The ticket cost $250. The MSRP of the watch was 8000 euros, when a euro was about $1.50.
Andy Granatelli Lucky you! Which PAM model?
That movement is gorgeous. Panerai has to be one of my favorote watchmakers
Excellent watch choice to discuss the brand. Also, one of the most beautiful watches in rose gold and such an iconic design.
"Panerai Radiomir 1940 Chrono Monopulsante 8 Days GMT Oro Rosso" that's a mouthful :)
Great videos as always. Please do a video on cartier calibre de diver. Thank you.
Great review as always, a pleasure to watch.
Watchfinder&Co. Has such amazing quality videos not just the picture quality but the narration, the style of the footage, even down to the hand model! You can watch their videos in anything from 240-720p and it still looks like 1080p and if you watch it in 1080p it looks 10 times better than most 4k videos! You know a company is paying painstakingly close attention to detail when you notice the high level of quality in things that other companies see as background details such as the backdrop, choice of footage, the flow and dynamic of the narration and the footage combined with the nonverbal communication of the hand model. Amazing all around Bravo WF&C! 🏆🎉🎊🏆
Love my PAM 00005 hand-winding ETA. Robust, reliable & a true piece of horological history. If you're thinking about getting a Panerai, just do it!
Richard Smegma I had that model, I really regret selling it as it was model P which I think was the second last 005 model before they reduced the water resistance and the screw bars became spring bars.
Fan since mid-nineties. .Got a Destro n OOR. . They used Zenith movements in some! Rare now. . .
Great detail! This brand is becoming more and more attractive!
One of my favorite watches ill never own is the Radiomir pam 518 with the Minerva 13-22
A stunning piece, thanks for showing.
Wonderful video as usual I Own a Panerai 653 I absolutely love it, great history great watch not over rated at all just very unique all around.
Could you please review the H Moser & Cie streamliner? Looks like a unique chronograph movement. Would love too you review it. Thanks
I have no use for a GMT, but this is very tempting.
While I could absolutely take or leave the watch itself, that Panerai has something about it that I really think adds positively to it - the dial printing, indices, and doubtlessly if equipped, the date disk, all match the color of the gold case. I think that is so much richer looking than stark white dial markings on a gold shaded watch. A deep blue dial? How about adding just a dab of blue to the dial printing, lume, date disk, indices, etc. Dial printing and markings are so commonly done in an uninteresting stark white shade. Adding in some color adds a new design element that a maker then has to carefully consider.
I own panerai luminor 1950 gmt ceramica. I love panerai watches.
As l was a Rolex Sports Models collector now my attention is fully on Panerai watches great watches with rich history l have a Pam 005 now looking add another Panerai to my watch collection Panerai is a must have in any watch collection!
Can you do an overview of one of Weiss’ watches with a CAL movement?
The 'kitchen sink caliber'.
This may not be executed perfectly, but feels like Panerai offering a middle finger salute to some of the more established watch makers.
Panerai had to upgrade their movements because counterfeit pieces got crazy-close to the quality of the originals...
The problem with Panerai today IMO is that they invest too much in limited editions, lowering the value of the rest of their catalogue. On top of that, in most cases they sell you a product with diving heritage but with only minimal-to-medium water resistance. If you sell me the story, at least stand up to it.
Plus one for the TAG comment!
EranBuhbut
The replica industry already has many versions of most Panerai pieces which indeed are as close to 1:1 can get. Even if they continue the path to more complications, the damage is already long done. All the models are already at 5/6 revisions in and you just CAN not tell the difference without going all micro, especially models without open casebacks. From the Luminor, Radiomir to Submersible, they are out there.
Amen! I am so tired of everything being a “Limited Edition”. That stupid title has more than worn out its welcome in horology.
@@mooiverhaal7850 this is not just a Panerai issue, mind you. Many Rolex models especially the submariner replicas are already 1:1 as well, the fakers have even made a decent copy of the movement (cal 3135). Also there are many 1:1 replicas of AP, Hublot, IWC as well
@@lettuce1305
True, but I think Panerai had this problem sooner and harder than all of the above since it really was easier to replicate a Panerai. I mean, a Chinese copy of a run-of-the-mill ETA with a little bit of added decorations would have done the trick in most cases.
@@mooiverhaal7850
I can come up with another reason that comes to mind, regarding the recent upgrades:
You pay a premium for a Panerai and get a basic ETA. For the same price you can get an IWC with at least an upgraded Selita (5 positions and stuff...) or in-house.
If you increase the value of the watch (i.e. upgrade the movement) then the price becomes more justified.
So much to know the time displayed on Mobile phones and television for no cost or complications
I honestly wouldn't mind a Panerai if it wasn't for their ridiculous sizes. An attractive design under 40mm diameter and they'll have my interest.
TheFinalApproach check out their Luminor Due 38
they did a 39mm one, buuuuuuut it was 30m water resistant
TheFinalApproach 38 luminor due exist and if you want a luminor ... panerai will release oct nov 21 luminor 40mm in black, blue and white.
@@fredso yes 38mm with 30m water resistant, they will release 40mm luminor in black blue white this year oct nov 21, i think of 100 or 200m water resistant.
Could you feature the latest watches from ball? The marine GMT for instance. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Ball engineer hydrocarbon series are nice. Its built for toughness. I have the old spacemaster glow.
Need to add a panerai to my collection. Superb video as usual
Just stunning. The production, camerawork, the watch itself... pure quality.
I’d like to hear your opinion on BALL watches. I have had my eye on one for a while now.
I have a lot of respect for this watch company, even if Im not a fan. Maybe the style cues are not to my taste but all the rest of watchmaking that I adore is all there.
But man, they really close them off to some of thr market with the design cues, being that theyre all based off the exact same design. You love one you love em all... hate one hate em all etc
Edit: its like richard mille, feel like I have seen them all after seeing each one
one of the best movement on this channel !!!
Very informative as usual so thank you. 5 push adverts is somewhat frustrating 😑
I do like a nice panerai - the steel case blue dial equation of time is just magnificent
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Hi there.
I'm sure you have long since been asked or already reviewed this watch, but I just purchased my first luxury swiss watch. the Omega Seamaster 2531.80. I would love to see you make a video on this if you haven't already.
Thanks.
Thanks for another video, was very interesting. Please review some independent watchmakers like Urwerk for example. Thanks in advance
Great video, great watch. thank you.
First time I’ve ever considered a Panerai
Love to see you review the new Panda Speedy CK2998
Please do a review of the Zenith Defy Inventor and its 18Hz movement
Great vid thank you
Have you seen AP’s new millenary, by god all might I hope it depreciates like crazy so I can snag one pre owned, blue dial of course. When and if you acquire one definitely review one, as you’ll see the movement might be worth while
I like Panerai watches though I prefer the ones with the crown guard/lock mechanism many of them have. This one is really nice, but too dressy for my lifestyle. I have large enough wrists to wear one and not have it look out of proportion and it's definitely a brand I'd like to have in my collection at some point. They are sort of like a secret handshake for those into watches as they will know immediately what you're wearing. At the same time, those not into watches will know immediately it's not a Rolex which could be an advantage in some cases.
I've come to appreciate Panerai a lot more recently. The ones with ETA movements can be picked up for a reasonable price on the used market these days.
can you do a segment on the Glycine Watch 24 hour movement?
This is the most beautiful panerai i've ever seen!
Great Video.
True art work in this Video.
Found this specific watch on the backpages of Panerai website. Special edition concierge order only, 41K USD
could you give a "review" / walk through on the Ingersoll bison no18?? I acquired one at a pawn shop and I'm starting to realize it's a bit on the expensive side..
does anyone know if the 8day complication automatically winds when being used or does it only wind up by using the crown/pusher?
Beautiful watch!
Absolutely Gorgeous Watch !
This Panerai looks fantastic!
Richemont owns Panerai & Watchfinder & Co.
Great video and Great Watch
I am a HUGE fan of 42mm 1940 Radiomir Panerai PAM00512... Speaking of italian watches please make a Parmigiani video! Please! Please!
Very nice video ! I would love to find out if Eberhard is a true watch maker ....
Ecologic design as Panerai started using " recycled Titanium " for their cases
This is an incredible watch!
This one is certainly a stunner. The movement is incredible and beautiful and that dial, looks like creamy chocolate, just perfect.
Thank you for your information you are the best
This might be the most mesmerizing video I’ve ever seen 🤤
I've recently found out about Seiko Astron. I think it's pretty interesting so please consider making a video about it
I'm not a fan of their style but I like that they stick to one thing and do it well
could you please do a 10best list of tonneau shapes watches for men. perhaps a mix of sports & dress watches. thanks
Love Panerai,my favourite watches only behind Lange
Please do a review of the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m Chronograph Volvo Ocean Race. Thank you.