1. JLC Master Ultra Thin - Smart and Elegant 2. VC Patrimony - Royalty and Exclusive 3. Pp Calatrava - Classic 4. ALS Saxonia - Teutonic and Masculine There is no need to pick the “best” among them. It’s just a matter of preference
I think the Lange is the clear winner here. It has that perfect, very elegant, minimalist look. That, paired with the amazing movement and finish, and the fact that is among the least expensive here, makes this kind of a no brainer for me. If it was at all within my budget, that's the watch I would get.
The Lange takes it for me because of the movement's finishing, but the JLC's dial is also extremely appealing. Beyond these, i would honestly consider the IWC Portofino too.
If ever there was an award for the best TH-cam video production, it should go to this channel. This guy's voice, choice of words and analogies can be compared to none. Keep it up.
These are all high end watches for me, but the mastery of the narrator is so astonishing that I make it a hobby to view and listen to his videos every night before sleeping.
A. Lange & Sohne is my favorite, hands down. I am enthralled with its aesthetic and design both the dial and case as well as the movement itself. If I had the funds it would be part of my collection of German watches.
Yes I would like to see that too. I have recently gotten into square watches and would love to see a nice spread of them that I can never afford. I just got a 1946 Bulova excellency off eBay as a stand-in until I can get a reverso and I am really enjoying it. And it has gotten the most notice of any watch I own.
My favourite dresswatch is the Patek Philippe Golden Ellipse. It's as minimal as the ones mentioned in this video, but with that special shape. And the best part is that you can buy it used for 1/4 of the retail price, as value for money this really counts!
I have the Patrimony and the Saxonia Thin (40mm). They are a pleasure to wear every time and even though they are simple I never tire of looking at them. Both are also extremely comfortable on the wrist, especially the VC. Great list.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm in the market and am having a difficult but enjoyable time trying to decide which dress watch is my favorite. The dial of the Patrimony has really stood to me as simple and elegant. However, I am also a fan of JLC and ALS. I appreciate that you've pointed out that the Patrimony is very comfortable on the wrist. Do you have any other info that could help me decide these amazing makes and models? Thanks.
Josh Plett Hi Josh.THE most comfortable, and I think, elegant dress watch I own is the VC Patrimony Contemporaine (not the Traditionelle) in white gold. It’s only hours and minutes. Just pure understatement and modest design perfection. Second on my list would be the ALS Saxonia Thin (40mm). Also a very simple, elegant timepiece and extremely comfortable on the wrist. If you can pay more and want to go with Patek Philippe, I would not recommend the Calatrava. That design, to me, is rather more ordinary than understated. It’s not that comfortable. The Nautilus is incredibly comfortable and has the advantage of being swim-able and lumed, but it has a decidedly more sporty look. Thanks for asking and good luck with your search!
My person favourite dress watches are the Breguet 7157, with enamel dial, and the Vacheron Constantine Malte small-seconds. Both are classic dress watches in every sense (though not quite as thin as the examples here), yet each have a little something that sets them apart from these more conservative choices. For the Breguet it’s that beautiful hand painted enamel dial, with the wonderful subtle small seconds dial at a quirky 5 o’clock, along with the usual Breguet flourishes like the coin edge case. And the VC Malte is basically the Patrimony Small-Seconds, only in a tourneau case. Tourneau cases have really fallen to the wayside to round and rectangular cases in recent decades, but I like the compromise of an elongated case that is less severe than the standard rectangle (the relative scarcity of the case shape doesn’t hurt it in my book).
Me too, particularly the Altiplano 60th Anniversary collection, and specifically the two white gold models with the blue crosshair dials. They are PIAGET perfection, in my opinion.
One of the best detailed videos you've done yet, the macro views are stunning. Can't choose, want them all... but the ALS and and the VC are just outstanding. I had to cover the dial on my Bambino and watch this in another room, lest it get jealous!
according to me, on these watches: patek < audemard piguet < vacheron constantin < Jaeger Lecoultre ( for the movement) = A Lange and Sohne ( the design)
I believe that the dress watch category is not only about round watches. For me, the Tank Louis Cartier is the most elegant timepiece a man can put on the wrist. I would love a second part video on this topic.
The Lange Saxonia would be my choice but due to funding will end up with the JLC Ultra thin moon at almost half the price, but doesn’t feel like I’m settling for too much less.
My vote is for the Lange, honestly the proportions are just more suiting of my taste. I love a clear case back and I love bucking against tradition. While A Lange is no new born just by being outside of Switzerland gives them an interesting edge for me. All of these were amazing picks, but I think my heart belongs to Lange
Same here. I am usually a bit more of a JLC person , but in this selection of watches the Lange has some intangible magic the others are missing. Sure the fact that I despise yellow gold watches might tilt my judgement, but I tried to adjust for that in making my judgement.
Vacheron Constantin is simply THE best for ultra thin dress watches. Patek Philippe Calatravas are super-beautiful but, imo, Patek gives its best with complicated watches.
Is it just me who is shocked that the JLC / PP / VC all contain movements ridiculously small in comparison to the diameter of the watches? I know that JLC and PP have recycled older movements for this, which used to be in much smaller watches (not sure about VC), but it's still shocking that, especially at the price point of PP, they haven't bothered to provide an updated movement that fits the case. A.L&S the clear winner here, and it's not even close - even if the Calatrava is visually extremely attractive.
I actually have a Vacheron Constantin from 1967 housing the K1120 movement, the same one from this Audemars Piguet, and only measures in at 6.6mm thick, FROM 1967!!
If you are part of the Swiss trinity all your cases need to have a clear case back and have an in house movement. The only ones worth a damn here are the JLC and PP.
I’m not the biggest fan of pure dress watches, but the exemplary photography and masterful production of this latest video had me mesmerized. Your documenting of these “microscopic engines” was captivating.
As it seems most others here? I’d also go for the Lange. I was surprised how clumsy looking the PP Calatrava was compared to the others here. I’m also of the opinion that Lange has surpassed Patek as the world’s finest producer of high-horology watches too.
The A Lange & Sohne would be my choice. The open caseback is a game changer. That movement is a work of art. I'd purchase it with a loop and stare at it for hours.
I like all these watches. But if I was putting down my own cash it would be for the A. Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin in copper blue. The dial just takes it to the next level.
This channel is so incredibly fantastic. Only here can you watch a video about a couple of very expensive rather serious watches and be suddenly be confronted by a comic bullet sound at 9:28 That was so unexpected and so damn funny. I really love this channel.
Love your videos, especially now that they have bullet sound effects. When you do such a large comparison, can you put all of them in one shot at the end? Its easier to see similarities and differences relative to one another and possibly even a side profile or on-wrist profile to highlight thinness. Thanks again!
I don’t usually admire ultra thin watches. I like to have some thickness to dial to feel a connection to it and it looks solid as well. Among these however, ALS wins for me.
For serious horology demanding serious money, the caliber should fit the case. There is only one watch in this list with a Calibre that fits (without filler for the space) that description with an open back that shows off its quality of manufacture. Even the AP with its open back shows a caliber that’s half the area of the case. Only the Lange appears to have a movement that was built for the watch.
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im more interested in the 1 star reviews on your trust pilot profile
Can we some how nominate this channel for an award? Every video belongs in a museum in Geneva.
dont forget Glashütte...from the comments id say its equal if not better...
Nominate 'em for a Webby!
Me: 'Oh sweet, I'm still looking for a nice dress watch.'
WF: 'This may be the cheapest one here at 12,500 pounds ...'
Me: 'God damn it.'
LMAO same here
Yeah, enter the Orient Bambino...
Enter Timex
@@JosephHHHoBoys, be a bit self respecting, you can do better than a Bambino... Get a Nomos... Junior A Lange & Söhne watchmakers wear them as well
Seiko SARB, Nomos, Omega Deville, Longines Master
Out of those, the A Lange is an easy choice for me. £1K more than a JLC, and the most stunning watch of the three.
bigpops74 there were five watches, not three
I instantly choose Lange & Söhne
A Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin 37mm topped all of them.
And the sky is blue. Are we going to state obvious facts all day?
That watch made me fall in love so hard that I save everything I can to get it as soon as possible.
@@alexbarcovsky4319 did you get one?
@@johanforslund5461 I think he’s still busy saving
When he said "as fresh as a glass of cold water" I had to get myself one
A glass of cold water, that is.
r/hydrohomies
@@Rr_9991 I fucking love water, I've been on it for like 19 years now. Can't seem to get off it.
I splashed out and had two glasses, damn the expense.
LMAO, you made my day bro
and you did...cause you could afford that...
My picks are A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia Thin and Vacheron Constantin Patrimony.
+1 for the Saxonia
I agree Vacheron Constantine Patrimony is the best
Same a Lange is my boy i want a zetwork
The holy trinity with patak
agreed
1. JLC Master Ultra Thin - Smart and Elegant
2. VC Patrimony - Royalty and Exclusive
3. Pp Calatrava - Classic
4. ALS Saxonia - Teutonic and Masculine
There is no need to pick the “best” among them. It’s just a matter of preference
I think the Lange is the clear winner here. It has that perfect, very elegant, minimalist look. That, paired with the amazing movement and finish, and the fact that is among the least expensive here, makes this kind of a no brainer for me. If it was at all within my budget, that's the watch I would get.
Breathtaking macro photography and an AMAZING narrative.
For me:
1st = ALS🥇
2nd = JLC 🥈
3rd = VC 🥉
I think this is the first comparison video you've done where I want them all. Stunning. Great macros too.
That Vacheron is pure class.
The guy who does the narrating and macro shots is world class. Best horology content on the web. Period.
no other I'd rather have but the A Lange Saxonia!
Perfect for the red-carpet slo-mo's?
or Jaeger-LeCoultre here. these 2 mastered simplicity to perfection
1. A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia
2. Nomos Orion Midnight Blue
3. Patek Philippe Gondolo 5109R
4. Grand Seiko SBGW251/252/253
The Lange takes it for me because of the movement's finishing, but the JLC's dial is also extremely appealing. Beyond these, i would honestly consider the IWC Portofino too.
Richárd Holló it has a date on it. Not minimalist enough really
Also has a seconds hand.
The Lange .... by a mile.
If ever there was an award for the best TH-cam video production, it should go to this channel. This guy's voice, choice of words and analogies can be compared to none. Keep it up.
Damn! That shot at 6:00 😍 The escapement through the ruby
seconded!!! Amazing Amazing photography.
Well done watchfinder team.
I have never seen such a thing!
just beautiful
These are all high end watches for me, but the mastery of the narrator is so astonishing that I make it a hobby to view and listen to his videos every night before sleeping.
A. Lange & Sohne is my favorite, hands down. I am enthralled with its aesthetic and design both the dial and case as well as the movement itself. If I had the funds it would be part of my collection of German watches.
Pleasantly impressed by the AP but A. LANGE FOR THE WIN!
Video idea: the top 5 square dress watches? A few options:
A. Lange & Söhne Cabaret
Jaeger-leCoultre Reverso
Cartier Tank
Lang & Heyne Georg
Moritz Grossmann Corner stone
@@kaygurke5629 good choices! Maybe also the PP Gondolo and the VC Hisoriques Toledo for the swiss fans?
Nomos Tetra
Zenith port royal rectangle
Yes I would like to see that too. I have recently gotten into square watches and would love to see a nice spread of them that I can never afford. I just got a 1946 Bulova excellency off eBay as a stand-in until I can get a reverso and I am really enjoying it. And it has gotten the most notice of any watch I own.
The hours I've spent watching all these to pick a watch I couldn't afford - I could have worked and bought one. Thanks a lot.
The JLC is my top choice, but that Lange & Sohne is an extremely close second. I'd buy both if I could.
A. Lange , Patek, Vacheron , JLC, AP in that order of choice for me. Tho you can’t miss with either, all are great
My favourite dresswatch is the Patek Philippe Golden Ellipse. It's as minimal as the ones mentioned in this video, but with that special shape. And the best part is that you can buy it used for 1/4 of the retail price, as value for money this really counts!
I have the Patrimony and the Saxonia Thin (40mm). They are a pleasure to wear every time and even though they are simple I never tire of looking at them. Both are also extremely comfortable on the wrist, especially the VC. Great list.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm in the market and am having a difficult but enjoyable time trying to decide which dress watch is my favorite. The dial of the Patrimony has really stood to me as simple and elegant. However, I am also a fan of JLC and ALS. I appreciate that you've pointed out that the Patrimony is very comfortable on the wrist. Do you have any other info that could help me decide these amazing makes and models? Thanks.
Josh Plett Hi Josh.THE most comfortable, and I think, elegant dress watch I own is the VC Patrimony Contemporaine (not the Traditionelle) in white gold. It’s only hours and minutes. Just pure understatement and modest design perfection. Second on my list would be the ALS Saxonia Thin (40mm). Also a very simple, elegant timepiece and extremely comfortable on the wrist. If you can pay more and want to go with Patek Philippe, I would not recommend the Calatrava. That design, to me, is rather more ordinary than understated. It’s not that comfortable. The Nautilus is incredibly comfortable and has the advantage of being swim-able and lumed, but it has a decidedly more sporty look. Thanks for asking and good luck with your search!
The exact two I’m looking at.
Those A. Lange und Sohne watch are out of this world!!!
ALS for sure. Such simplicity and grace.
My top 5:
ALS
VC
H. Moser
JLC
GS
A. Lange & Sohne would be my pick without a second thought! That watch is stunning and beautifully executed. I can stare the movement of it all day
My person favourite dress watches are the Breguet 7157, with enamel dial, and the Vacheron Constantine Malte small-seconds.
Both are classic dress watches in every sense (though not quite as thin as the examples here), yet each have a little something that sets them apart from these more conservative choices.
For the Breguet it’s that beautiful hand painted enamel dial, with the wonderful subtle small seconds dial at a quirky 5 o’clock, along with the usual Breguet flourishes like the coin edge case.
And the VC Malte is basically the Patrimony Small-Seconds, only in a tourneau case. Tourneau cases have really fallen to the wayside to round and rectangular cases in recent decades, but I like the compromise of an elongated case that is less severe than the standard rectangle (the relative scarcity of the case shape doesn’t hurt it in my book).
I love 💕 the Piaget altiplano ultrathin watch as a dress 👗 watch
Me too, particularly the Altiplano 60th Anniversary collection, and specifically the two white gold models with the blue crosshair dials. They are PIAGET perfection, in my opinion.
Agreed, the 900P is a work of art, true paper-thin. That dial! Speechless.
What i like about ALS is that the finishing is great even their cheapest watch, no compromises👍👍👍
For me, the A. Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin day in and day out.
I always pick the a lange when its in one of your list 😂
Yep the A.LANGE & SÖHNE SAXONIA THIN is stunning. Hands down winner for me. 👌🏽
One of the best detailed videos you've done yet, the macro views are stunning. Can't choose, want them all... but the ALS and and the VC are just outstanding. I had to cover the dial on my Bambino and watch this in another room, lest it get jealous!
Love JLC, but Lange Saxonia is my grail watch
according to me, on these watches:
patek < audemard piguet < vacheron constantin < Jaeger Lecoultre ( for the movement) = A Lange and Sohne ( the design)
Lange Saxonia: "Einfachkeit ist das Resultat der Reife" (Friedrich Schiller)
What about Breguet...? sure they have something in this category.
My favourite is the Saxonia, then the PP Calatrava, The Jules Audemars, the VC and the JL!
Despite my love for VC, I must admit A. Lange & Söhne edges it just on the more elegant proportions.
I choose between Vascheron Contantine Patrimony or A Lange & Sohne Saxonia this both of dress watch so beautiful, minimalist, & awesome 👍🏻👍🏻
I believe that the dress watch category is not only about round watches. For me, the Tank Louis Cartier is the most elegant timepiece a man can put on the wrist. I would love a second part video on this topic.
Nah Mate, the hardest part is not choosing... it's paying for your choice ;)
Yeah, at the end of the day you’re paying more than 15k for a white dial watch with two hands.
Why would anybody do shopping if they don't have money in the first place. 🤔
A. Lange & Sohne clear is the clear winner, stunningly beautiful and just perfect 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
1. ALS
2. PP
3. VC
4. AP
5. JLC
I love your videos and the narrative is perfect. These are absolutely beautiful timepieces. My pick would be the JLC
Lange & Söhne best by far. Its the aesthetics that do it for me, smart and understated but with distinct class....
The Lange Saxonia would be my choice but due to funding will end up with the JLC Ultra thin moon at almost half the price, but doesn’t feel like I’m settling for too much less.
I've never gotten along with date windows, so the A. Lange & Sohne, or the Audemars Piguet. Thanks.
My vote is for the Lange, honestly the proportions are just more suiting of my taste. I love a clear case back and I love bucking against tradition. While A Lange is no new born just by being outside of Switzerland gives them an interesting edge for me. All of these were amazing picks, but I think my heart belongs to Lange
Same here. I am usually a bit more of a JLC person , but in this selection of watches the Lange has some intangible magic the others are missing. Sure the fact that I despise yellow gold watches might tilt my judgement, but I tried to adjust for that in making my judgement.
Saxonia is my favorite but the JLC and Calatrava are both beautiful as well. Frankly, all 5 are excellent
My two picks are the Lange and Patek
The ALang has this clinically crisp and clean look that wins it for me . All businesses in the front and a hell of a party at the back.
I prefer the Lange and sohne watch and the Vacheron watch. I love these two clocks.
Vacheron Constantin is simply THE best for ultra thin dress watches.
Patek Philippe Calatravas are super-beautiful but, imo, Patek gives its best with complicated watches.
Patek on these dress watches , but I’m a big ALS FANBOY who aspires to owning one in the next few years
Great video. My top choice would be the Lange Saxonia.
That one is easy for me. The Vacheron Constantin. I just love the proportions and the look. Timeless.
My favourite is the a lange and sohne because a lange and sohne
Is it just me who is shocked that the JLC / PP / VC all contain movements ridiculously small in comparison to the diameter of the watches? I know that JLC and PP have recycled older movements for this, which used to be in much smaller watches (not sure about VC), but it's still shocking that, especially at the price point of PP, they haven't bothered to provide an updated movement that fits the case. A.L&S the clear winner here, and it's not even close - even if the Calatrava is visually extremely attractive.
Patek and Lange would be my top two picks, they look stunning
I actually have a Vacheron Constantin from 1967 housing the K1120 movement, the same one from this Audemars Piguet, and only measures in at 6.6mm thick, FROM 1967!!
I don t know in my opinnion A lange und Söhne is my favourite Watch barand
Breguet deserves to be in the conversation.
If you are part of the Swiss trinity all your cases need to have a clear case back and have an in house movement. The only ones worth a damn here are the JLC and PP.
All beautiful watches but why is the A Lange & Sohne so captivating?? It is their movement isn't it??
A Lange & Söhne for sure
I’m not the biggest fan of pure dress watches, but the exemplary photography and masterful production of this latest video had me mesmerized. Your documenting of these “microscopic engines” was captivating.
A lange and shone is the best in my opinion!
As it seems most others here? I’d also go for the Lange. I was surprised how clumsy looking the PP Calatrava was compared to the others here. I’m also of the opinion that Lange has surpassed Patek as the world’s finest producer of high-horology watches too.
All exquisite. I would, however, pick a Laurent Ferrer galet micro-rotor over all of those (though it's a bit thicker i suppose)
I believe breguet is missing on this list
Langhe Saxonia number 1 for me
The A Lange & Sohne would be my choice. The open caseback is a game changer. That movement is a work of art. I'd purchase it with a loop and stare at it for hours.
I like all these watches. But if I was putting down my own cash it would be for the A. Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin in copper blue. The dial just takes it to the next level.
a lange saxonia. the 35mm with small seconds
This is objectively the greatest video of all time! Well done
Of these 5 classics, the ALS is my favorite. But the HMC Venturer Small Seconds will give it, and the other 4, a run for their money.
Lange 100%
Lange for the win clearly..... the finish is top notch.
LOL'ed at the completely unexpected bullet sound effect - next time please chase that with the Wilhelm scream.
This channel is so incredibly fantastic.
Only here can you watch a video about a couple of very expensive rather serious watches and be suddenly be confronted by a comic bullet sound at 9:28
That was so unexpected and so damn funny. I really love this channel.
I was wondering if anybody would mention that! It was very surprising! Spot on!
Refreshingly, the AP looks different.and has a depth to it..but I'm a fan of German engineering hence the Lange has to be the one!
My favorite is A. Lange & Sohne. Why? Because it is A. Lange & Sohne. Wow, most readers/TH-camrs here selected AL&S!
I would frame the Lange movement out when not wearing it.
Love your videos, especially now that they have bullet sound effects. When you do such a large comparison, can you put all of them in one shot at the end? Its easier to see similarities and differences relative to one another and possibly even a side profile or on-wrist profile to highlight thinness. Thanks again!
The ALS for me. Because it is the underdog being German, but excells in its excellent finishing
ALS for me too, fit and finish is at least on par with Patek if not exceeding, German makes ultra high end watches too.
Great video. My favorite would need to be the Vacheron, because of the Geneva seal.
A Lange and Sohne is the one for me.
Simple choice for me: A. Lange & Söhne all day long!
The A Lange is fresh like ice cold water
Absolutely the A Lange, it beauty lies in it's pure simplicity, it makes the others look positively extravagant
I don’t usually admire ultra thin watches. I like to have some thickness to dial to feel a connection to it and it looks solid as well. Among these however, ALS wins for me.
The subtle details on the vacheron are incredible.
For serious horology demanding serious money, the caliber should fit the case. There is only one watch in this list with a Calibre that fits (without filler for the space) that description with an open back that shows off its quality of manufacture. Even the AP with its open back shows a caliber that’s half the area of the case. Only the Lange appears to have a movement that was built for the watch.