This Fake Omega Seamaster Is Unbelievable | Watchfinder & Co.
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- If you thought it was only ever Rolex watches being faked, you’d be wrong. I’ll cut straight to the point-one of these Seamasters is a fake. Which one is it? Let’s find out.
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Is the fake in your Seamaster video made by Ziarex?
A Chinese dude is taking notes about the mistakes he should perfect for the next replica
that would be me
Not Chinese, Hongkongers, I assure you that. Those guys are beasts.
@@vidung1234 not Hong Konger. a city called Guangzhou if u interested
Respect Intellectual property and join the real world
I am a Chinese dude but I love my watches and I wont be creating fakes. 🙌
As soon as he said, "I’ll cut straight to the point", I knew he wouldn't.
True
yeah he rambles alot. he still manages to keep it entertaining though.
No one ever seems to.
He never does and 80% what he says is plain meaningless words
RandomTechS@#T only is meaningless to those who thinks so, to those who would listen and understand the ideology behind it, and can capture it. It is priceless, no matter what.
There are watches with the same serial numbers as the originals, and only one company, called Ziarex, sells them.
imagine buying fake xD
It's not a coincidence, ALL of these comments are from accounts made 4 weeks ago with beautiful women on their Profile pictures. Now why would that be? Is this channel buying comments from BOTS?
@@pauliewalnuts5241 these bots need to learn
Someone in the government should do something about it.
This is a serious problem, we must react
Obsessed with the elegance of Swissarex.
If I walked into my local pub wearing a £4,000 watch, everyone would think it was fake anyway 😂
Dooguk that says more about what they think you’re all about because there are millions of people around the world who would never knowingly buy anything fake let alone wear it.
@@charliezobel511 You've got it wrong mate. You would have to be a nutcase to walk around wearing a 4 grand watch around here. 😂
Love it!!!
As long as you know its a genuine watch and u r loving it, who cares what other people think.
@@Dooguk so where is "here" then?
"There are real, tangible differences between the real and the fake..."
Opens with an intangible point about heritage
Steve VC if it says Omege on the watch that’s probably why you feel like that.
Ginja Ninjaaa read the comment i replied to.
Ginja Ninjaaa please don’t confuse your lack of reading interpretation skills with a lack of intelligence on my part.
😂😂 true
Joe Kelly stfu
As an American living in CH for years, my wife took my Rolex sub (that I have owned for 24 years) to the local Rolex certified shop (Bucherer) for a service. The lady at the shop told my wife that they would not service the watch because it was a fake. She had the original purchase papers and the lady still insisted it was fake. The store manager was called in to examine the watch and verify that it is genuine and that they would be happy to ship it to Rolex for the full service. The service cost me $1100.
Lesson learned. These fakes are looking pretty good considering the "official" treatment one receives when owning a real one. It was really an embarrassing experience for my wife...the store was not empty and the lady at Bucherer made her feel unwelcome with that statement.
Fu^% those pompous pricks.
The Swiss are like that generally
Rolex sellers and dealers have an attitude about them!
That's one of the reasons I dislike Rolex, sadly. The other main reason will be the: hey, I want a rolex. Alright, I can't sell you a rolex right now.
They probably kept yours and gave you a fake back.
@@johngalt5205 Doubt it. It went to the Rolex operation in Geneva. The HQ.
Everyone: So why not buy the fake?
Watch makers: Because, please.
🤣
You can fool the world but you can't fool yourself.
Are you really saying that the best you can do for yourself is a fake? If you don't care then there's no need to reply.
Yu Tian agreed.
@Mr. Rosenberg People that buy luxury fakes are capable of buying regular brands but they're just as pretentious as the people they mock. They want the clout and the prestige of luxury but constantly lie to validate themselves on their self-righteousness of owning fakes.
best clone watch you can find on instagram: hiperclone24
Don't worry, I bought my fake with counterfeit money😂😂😂
LOL
This is the way
‘LOL’ I second that!
That would serve them right
Pudge Otamus: 😆‼️
After owning a GMT and OP for almost 10 years I wanted to get myself a Hulk for my 60th birthday,
about 2 weeks later I came across a page about high end clones and decided to give it a try. Once came I compared it to my original GMT (in terms of quality, feeling of the steel etc),
I understood one thing, China can't be beaten. There is no chance ANYONE will be able to spot it as a fake,
Even the inside movement is identical. The build quality and finish put a lot of legitimate Swiss brands to shame.
Where did you get it from? Asking for a friend 😂😂
@@pitervain6644 Thanks! On Instagram??
Yes
For untrained eyes maybe. The shame is to buy such a cheap copy.
@@jb6587 if you want to wear it everyday and not worry about it being stolen or if you're being mugged then it's a better choice
If you want to use it as an investment then get the real
TH-cam: Hey, are you into watches?
Me: No, not rea..
TH-cam *YES YOU ARE!*
lol
I got too deep in the wristwatch rabbithole when youtube recommended me one that I actually bought a fuckin speedmaster
Underrated and under appreciate comment. Lol:-))
>Have a couple of $40 Timexes. Maybe watched one review.
>Watch videos of $1000+ watches recommended at least weekly.
same
Lol imagine if after turning off the camera he realised he actually mixed up the fake and real.
He is an expert not an idiot.
The fake on didn't have the ZrO2 logo under the dial stem and had black paint on the date compared to the original which has blue. It's quite hard to mix them up given that.
@@ndc5544p I watched again, I don't see the differences you were talking about
@@ndc5544p See them compared at 4:31 - both have the ZrO2 logo and blue paint (different shade, though) on the date. I guess the difference is amplified at certain viewing angles.
@Alan Naranjo Absolutely!
I've always wanted a luxury watch but couldn't justify the price. That's why I turned to swissarex, and I'm so glad I did. Their replica watches look and feel just like the real thing, but at a fraction of the cost.
In 2021, Rolex produced (estimated) 1.05m watches and generated revenues of $8.8 BILLION USD which is $8400 per time piece. So even genuine Swiss watches are NOT about rarity but more what the "market can bear". When shops say they are out-of-stock it's just a way to get your contact details to sell you one WHEN (not if) the watch arrives. Most likely I'll purchase a Tudor this year but the one I want is not made anymore... but to think an AP royal Oak is $50,000 I think I may as well get a Pagani Design "royal oak" for 1% of the cost & give away the 99% to charity or buy a nice Seiko or SeaGull.
The amazing thing is how you managed to cram 2 minutes of information into 8 1/2 minutes.
LMAO
TH-cam won't pay you for a 2 minutes video I suppose
marry me
Be kind
lmao. This did get a bit pretentious and esoteric about 4 minutes in.
The worst part isn't wearing a cheaper copy. It's paying for the original and getting the copy.
This. It's come so far that it's just insane and unless you have a 100% trained professional to pretty much disassemble the entire piece you have no clue what you're getting. Honestly, there's no reason to buy real Rolex IMO. I'm looking into a Franken Datejust build just because I love vintage DJ's, but the clones they make are just perfect anymore.
Your choice of words, their precision, your intonation and the overall rendition matches the brilliance of the watches you describe. Very well done indeed. Many Thanks!!
I once heard a quote.... "if she thinks it's real, then it's real"
The same can be said about her orgasm.
Perfect
@@thethomasj1795 bruh shots fired
@@thethomasj1795
As long as you allow her to climax first--or give her the option to fake it--then your job as a gentleman has been fulfilled. The "real" love comes in the laundry. Does she do your laundry? If so, then don't worry about "fake" orgasms.
maybe you need a different she?
Intelectual property theft is serious. But watchmakers have to come back down to planet earth with those ridiculous prices.
You and I will agree IP rights are to be respected. We can have an appreciation for the ability to replicate all we want, but stealing IP, R&D, and all the time, money, and labor that went into designing and creating something that captivates so many is clearly wrong.
That said, I feel that very reality reinforces those prices. At $5,200 for this watch in particular, you are not only paying for a mass produced, albeit quality watch. You are also covering the costs of R&D and, quite honestly, the entire legacy that led to that watch. Without Omega, in this case, that $500 very accurate copy, would not exist. The connection it has to James Bond would not exist. It would cost $500 because no one would pay more for it (feature for feature).
Ignoring for the moment that in a capitalist society, there should always be room for products at every price point, the simple reality is, that when you buy something that is extremely coveted... enough to warrant such a close copy to be made... you are are not only paying for a fine quality piece, but also paying for the very arduous road that made that piece even possible.
@@herewegoagain... R&D for a watch that's been the same for 52 years.
They will only charge what people will pay... They aren’t for regular humans. I’m not jealous of anyone. Well... to a point.
I think the point in these watches is for them to be expensive, and for the owner to feel like they've 'made it' when they buy it. If you don't care about lying to yourself and just want it for appearances, fair enough. No one would judge you for it, because they wouldn't ever notice, but you'll know.
There are plenty of genuine “Swiss Made” mechanical movement watches that are priced in the hundreds of dollars. High-quality watches from brands that are reputable and well known. In other words, your comment is moot and you will not able to objectively rebut my response to you. Next time, try to educate yourself before making ill informed and grossly subjective comments.
I only buy from swissarex
HE IS OG
TRUE.
If you love the brand and want real, it’s for yourself.. doesn’t matter if others think it’s fake… I would HATE knowing mine was fake!
when you're showing comparisons, its very helpful to label fakes and real because it's hard to tell on some of them.
same sentiment here... UP
adding my tactical comment in case someone comments on which one's which
Same thoughts. Please add a letter F or R so we know what we’re looking at, otherwise there’s not much point to these videos
That's the point, no?
The fake is always the second in each closeup comparison shot.
"craftsmanship, tradition"
All my by robots in a factory
There’s no robot in the world that assembles, oils and regulates watch movements Don’t confuse how a part is made with how it’s all put together.
@@wilkinson8707 Swatch Sistem 51
So, for a tenth of the price, the faker gives you 99% of the real thing. Now that is something really impressive.
nothing impressive about stealing intellectual property. Making a homage is one thing, this is straight up stealing.
@@brianhsin678 why is it so easy to steal?
@@cristiandemirel1918 easy or not, stealing is stealing. That fake co-axial movement is farrrrrrrr from the real one. It will not be anti-magnetic, it will not hold METAS cert for long, if at all... It will not take the same beating, there is no promise of any water proofing. If water gets in, or the movement stops, it's not like you're able to take it back to the company. Also, I am sure it will not have the same longevity. This watch is for the person who wants people to think they have an Omega/Rolex etc. If that is what you're going for, and don't mind supporting black market activity, you're the target audience. Tons of homages out there by legit companies for people who like the design. Finally, you can get a 25 % discount on the SMP300 pretty easily from many AD's. At that discount, this model will retain it's value. You spend 500 Euros on a fake, it is worth 0.
@@brianhsin678 Imagine what they'll be able to do in 10 or 20 years from now! Good times ahead!
@@brianhsin678 these luxury watches going to become quite easy to copy in the next 10 years
Yo, I swear, this video was unintentionally a great advert for the bootleg.
Says more about your morals than anything else.
@@Jabber-ig3iw ...Please elaborate, so I can embarrass you for that fallacious asinine claim. I truly look forward to your reply.
@@Dubb1000 Legend has it he is still crafting his reply.
Yeah.. Im wondering which site he got it from.. .asking for a friend of course. :P
I agree, the only reason I clicked on the video was to find out how I could order the fake one. lol
If I don t have a original to compare I never have a chance to spot these ... differences ? So what should i do I if I like to by a used on, or can I only by full set with box paper and waranty card?
This is one of the reasons why I like very unconventional watches, the sheer amount of engineering that goes into something like the AP Starwheel makes it impossible to fake
They can fake anything, hope yours is from an AD.
just make sure you don't let someone with telescopic eyes look at your watch and you're golden
I always thought If someone makes a “fake” that is so perfect absolutely no flaws then isn’t it actually “authentic”
@@heytheist9349 ouchhh
I bought few times replicas , one , two drops and its garbage
yeah the replica maker should literally go into business for themselves lol and make their own products. I mean if theyre that good.
I want mine to run for a long time.
If I may be so bold, I noticed some tiny imperfections in the real one as well.
They're both "real" - it's not like one of these is an imaginary watch. One just costs 10x more and has some slightly smoother edges when viewed under a microscope.
@@flt528 As if slightly smoother detail edges is the only thing you get in the original. 🤣
Somebody here didn't watch the video.
@@litamtondy Not really depends on if a movement they can't see matters all you have to do to figure out if a watch is real open up the battery compartment nine out of ten times and in this case would take the imposter it's not fake.
@@dmac7406 It is fake, you're just a victim of scammers. Watch the video, it clearly states the differences, and they are not only esthetical.
@@dmac7406 the battery compartment..? On an Omega Seamaster..?
I need to know that if a seamaster 300m is fake, does its automatic system works or we have to wind it with the help of crown
Where do you buy it ?
The Swiss watch industry has been taking their customers for granted. The prices have reached crazy levels. Craft , tradition history etc are just words. At the core lies excellence in engineering .
The copy guys are free to make their own stuff, with the price they want.
@bsdnix3 spoken like a broke boy. Let people with money enjoy what they want.
Your seiko and Casio still tells the time! Stay in your lane broke Boi.
Min small man
@@ethancj5072 is that what your girlfriend calls you?
Min I am gay
It's almost like luxury brands rely on marketing to justify their costs or something.
You Can get watches like this on Instagram: 1zu1.uhren
Yes, it's like with brands like Gucci or Armani. It's never worth the money. You buy only the feeling to be somehow better than others.
In part, you are paying for the brand name.
@@noattitude7690 Gucci and Armani are not even considered luxury brands sometimes tbh:(
I think you are into something. Keep learning about branding and marketing.
To be honest, there is some art and skill on doing such good replicas...
but no decades of craftsmanship and solid dedication
I bought a fantastic Tanzanite ring in Dubai nearly 20 years ago and we stopped off for a few days in Singapore on our way back to Sydney . While we were driving to our hotel I saw a billboard with a classic steel and gold Submariner with the blue dial . My friend nudged me and said 'That watch will go perfectly with your ring' . He was right and I bought it . Twenty years later I could sell it for $5000 more than what I paid for it but I'd never do that . I set the tanzanite with a carat and a half of diamonds to give it a bit more oomph . People who wear fake stuff want others to believe it's real and maybe they do but you can't fool yourself and in that secret compartment we all have in our heart I don't believe you could ever be truly happy wearing fake stuff .
Please put a link in description for purchasing the fake. Discount code as well would be great!
It’s a awsome Fake 👍
Don't think YT or Omega, once they found out, would like that very much, an account enabling a criminal act.
Search for replica watch forums and you're golden :D
they're hard to find. most of the high level fake stuff i bought was by accident. i guess you can't really advertise it due to legal reasons.
So where exactly where one find a link to these “replica” watches? Hypothetically of course
Another crazy detail: I ran the serial number from the fake through Omega's spare parts website and it is from the exact same model.
They usually find the serial number of one of the real watches (by buying one, photos or whatever the case may be) then engrave the same number on all of the fakes.
Karson Barnes Ok? Stolen legit serial.
@@TechPanzer So if I wanted to buy this seamaster from a chrono24 vendor, how can I be sure it's genuine?
@@rudydew111 just buy from a autorized seller
@@rudydew111 no way without having it in hand. Buy with a credit card through paypal, so if you have a dispute and paypal doesn't side with you, your credit card will. Only buy from people with return policies.
An easy way you can tell is a screw is missing on the fake look near the balance wheel it's a little grub screw on the end ,I bought a blue one and realized soon as I had it in my hands the screw and just winding it was rough.
where did you get it from ?
Omega: It's our best timepiece ever, it will take years to make a realistic copy.
Chinese forger: Hold my Wok!
He made the fake quicker than he could get Coronavirus spread
@@DarylMT Too soon, maybe? 😜
These aren't even fakes, they're "factory second" or "night-time" versions made on off-hours at the real factory in China. This is what outsourcing gets you. Your own suppliers cheating you on your products.
@@thelastdwemer Wow! Whereabouts did that come from, is there a whistle-blower or source you could link?
@@Knapweed It's a common phenomenon for major companies outsourcing production to China and other third-world locales. I'm afraid I don't have an article on hand, but you can spot production like this when the "counterfeit" parts, especially cheaper plastic or ceramic parts or cast metal parts, have no difference from the "real" parts. They're all made abroad for cost savings purposes, and excess stock is re-sold to counterfeiters.
swissarex is best thx me later
Watchfinder and Co, what website did you purchase this Replica on?
Can't get enough of Swissarex watches! ❤
The marker on top of the bezel is off centre. Don't think it would pass omega quality controle.
I really wish you would add the words 'fake' and 'real' to these little comparison clips of each one. It's more helpful and less confusing
Was gonna type exactly that.
I was waiting for that too, I tried to distinguish which one was fake but probably I will never know if I was right
@@furouco The one on the right is fake.
That’s the point though. He’s pointing out how difficult it is to spot a fake.
Thank you Ian. I wrote a comment -- much longer -- more or less saying the same thing.
The reality is most watch lovers will never be able to justify $4000 for a watch and certainly not $10-15,000 for many watches like Rolex. These replica consumers are not a loss for Rolex or Omega since they were not in line to be a customer anyways. If the individuals fortune changes due to luck, hard work or a little of both, well then that fandom that made them buy the replica Rolex or Omega will probably lead them to buying the real thing given the chance. The reality is most non-enthusiasts don't know the luxury brands by sight anyways with maybe the exception of the Rolex and can't determine a $100 watch from a $100,000 watch.
If you can't afford a $5000 Swiss watch, them buy a $4000 or $3000, or even $2000 Swiss watch. There are fantastic Swiss brands in the entry level Swiss market. Brands such as Longines, Oris, Rado, etc, etc. No need to buy a fake Rolex or Omega. Heck, if even that's too much for you, buy a $500 Swiss watch from a brand such as Tissot or Hamilton. Won't be a Rolex, but at least these are old established brands that produce quality Swiss pieces at the lower end of the market, and they are not fakes. There's literally zero excuse to buy a fake watch
@@salty-as-heck9915 There is an excuse though, isn't there. Your argument is based on someone just wanting a Swiss watch, not a particular one. If you can afford £500 that buys you a Hamilton you never wanted or an Omega you really did, what will most choose?
If they want a particular watch that they know is totally unaffordable, and find a replica that costs £500, go for it I say.
@@petercraggs2431 except the replica will never be the same as the real watch. The movement will be a cheaper Chinese or Japanese movement typically found in $100 to $400 watches, with less jewels, cheaper parts, lower beat rate, less accuracy. The materials of the dial, watch hands, etc., won't be the same and won't be finished with the same fit and finish and attention to detail...and I can say that from experience having owned everything from $200 Chinese Sea-gull watches, to all sorts of Seikos, Citizens, Orients, Tissot, Hamilton, Longines, Omega, Breitling, etc. Not to mention the replica watches will have zero resale value, whether I can resell my old Omega Seamaster auto from the late 1990s for $1000 over what I bought it for 11 years ago, and even the Longines Hydroconquest I'm wearing at the moment that I bought for $1000 with box and papers from a gray dealer a year ago I could flip right now for $800, and in 10 years I could probably sell it for $1,200 or so of I no longer like it. Try doing that with a replica, you can't. And a good watch is worth servicing and keeping with you for many decades, while replica watches are throw-away watches that you get rid of 5-6 years down the line when they stop working as no one will service them.
@@salty-as-heck9915 Funny that, because that's all you pay for a replica anyway...
Do you think if people could afford a £2000 watch, they wouldn't buy one? But most people can't so guess what...
If you paid attention to the video, you'd see that they both actually run at 28k vpm.
And you can resell your omega for $1000? Wow. On the replica marker, you can also sell watches for what you paid for them.
You're talking about a world you clearly don't understand.
@@petercraggs2431 you might want to read more carefully.. I said I could sell it for $1,000 more than what I paid for it... So not only did it keep its value, but it's actually worth more now. Anyway, buy what you want, but personally I'd prefer real to replica for all the reasons I mentioned.
There is something to be said about the skill needed to make something so close to the real thing at a fraction of the cost. This is not something anyone could do and honestly impresses me
That is a good clone! On one hand i dont really like this kinda thing but my rolexes have gone up so much in value recently im actually scared to wear them in case i damage them. For something to wear on holiday and at the gym this would make alot of sense!
@DiZ Zkl seens like u have done something with cannabis :D
"I miei rolex aumentati così tanto..." poverino... speriamo che quando ti cremeranno te li lascino al polso, così sarai contento...
When a badguy is pointing a knife at you and asks for your watch it's easier to hand over a replica.
A badguy? What are you, 5? I hope you got your parent's permission to be on youtube, they might be disappointed in you otherwise.
Mamo if a bad guy points a knife at me he’s going to be really disappointed at what I point back at him and then take everything he has on him
@@huntersullivan51 In some places they literally cut your hand off with a machete to steal your watch.
Right???? I could see wearing a 5000.00 watch..... If I was hosting the Grammy Awards or when I'm trying to bullshit someone into thinking they can do business with me because I'm wearing a expensive ass watch. Or like my bro said to pull "chicks".
@@huntersullivan51 buddy i know my friend got shot for not handing his wallet to the thief.... he had to go through surgery as his pelvis got fractured... he walks with a cane now... so dont talk hollywood movie stuff here
I bought a snide Speedmaster once when I was younger. The glass got cracked and I took it into a local watchmakers to have it fixed (cheaply of course). They were so fooled by it they thought it was genuine and referred me Omega to fit a new genuine crystal, which would have cost 2x more than the watch itself.
I find it really interesting how well these watches can be faked but I really don't care about what watch I'm wearing. I like to wear one as an accessory like how I always wear a belt even if my pants fit just fine, but it doesn't have to be an Omega or look like one...
I used to to own a Casio and after that an Icewatch with a nice chronograph. Recently I bought a Galaxy watch and I love the convenience and functionality of it, and I love how black and sleek it looks in sleep mode. The thing only costed me 200 bucks! That's the starting price of a proper watch and you get something so much more useful! I love it.
Getting a fake watch is kinda sad. Why would you? To be a poser? I don't get it. It only tells the time. A 200 dollar watch does the same thing. It doesn't have to be an Omega or a Rolex... there are some really nice affordable watches in the 200 - 500 dollar range, mechanical ones even. Automatic chronographs... watches that look a lot more expensive than they are, and some which even appreciate in value. But if you really want an Omega, al least get a real one.
Aside from the intrinsic characteristics like bragging rights, legacy, history of Omega, it's astonishing how far the replicators have come and how much they can deliver for the money. Imagine the quality if the fake costed half of the genuine instead of one tenth. Also imagine what the Swiss watchmakers can deliver for the price of the fakes.
they cost one tenth because someone ain't getting paid(workers of the sweatshops), they won't deliever the same quality no matter the money because they just can't and if they could, they would've done that long ago and it would cost a lot, and finally they would absolutely not design a new movement or a new watch, they can only copy. You can choose to wear a mastercrafted original timepiece, or you can choose to wear a subpar, albeit flashy watch that you can't service in an official dealer or service center and which was made by an underpaid worker, i'm not giving a damn, just saying
@@dxdxdxdxdxd7125 Dont be silly, if they can make it to such a standard, they definitely fully understand how watches at these level are made, and designing a new movement is not hard, its just not worth it if you couldn't sell it for a shit ton of money. Making a high quality replica of a famous brand allow the investor to turn manufacturing capacity into profit with a very predictable income stream and low overhead, they only need to make a convincing copy of the real thing at a price point that is affordable to a lot of people, and they know customer will come.
There are Chinese watch brands that are trying to make something out of themselves and design and make original watches, but its very hard work, and it mostly fall on marketing and brand building. In China, their strongest skillset are in science and engineering, to take something, reverse engineering it and then create a great copy of it is just easy for them.
I would argue that all those famous brand are POS at their price point, as clearly if a replica at 15-20 times cheaper can get so close to it. Also don't be naive, if watch making is difficult, do you think that it would be cheap to get skilled labour thats pretty much on par with Omega in this case? As for servicing, why do you need an official dealer to service it? A watch is no different than any device, it can be serviced by someone who knows what they are doing. All my Porsche and BMWs have never serviced at the dealer because I have a trusted shop that deals with BMW and Porsche at a more reasonable price point. You sound like a snob.
I have many fake high end watches and I have enjoyed them, I really just like their look and nothing else, as I see them as inferior time keeping POS, my $200 Bulova (this one is real lol) precisionist has a margin of error of 8sec PER YEAR, so any mechanical watches can go fxxk off pretending to be a watch that keeps good time in the 21st century.
For all the fake high end watches I bought and enjoyed, I invested the difference into the stock and crypto over the years and I have made 7 figures gain. I can't thank my cheap stake ass enough for that lol.
@@c2chung totally believeable, mate
the part about cars and fake watches sounds true tho, what can i say, keep lying to yourself, misaligned markers, crooked numbers on a dial, imperfections, dirt under the crystal and so on and so forth, the fake is a fake, if designing a movement is so simple why the fakes are made without the original movement copied, but instead a cheap mass-produced one is placed there or a sloppy replica wannabe? And that is why the watchmakers have a problem with servicing it - they often don't know where the hell parts are coming from, because its not a familiar movement of the watch fake one is trying to copy, also Porshe and BMW shop needs to be certified, otherwise you are losing your manufacturer warranty, and from your words i suspect you have 10+ years young cars, so you don't have it anyway, and you can't compare a car service to a watch service as latter requires much less of it and of a different kind
Bulova Precisionist is a very cool watch tho
dude. it doesn't even cost one tenth to produce gen watches.i just assume all watches are fake all the time
Super clone Daytona will set you back about £650, the real thing starts at £13,300 that one twentieth.
A man with one watch always knows the time, a man with two is never quite sure.
Not true, both watches show the correct time. So the man would be twice as sure.
He would know the time, close enough, not to matter.
I have over 20 watches. Now I know why I'm always late. I always thought it was my neck ties. Which tie looks better with this suit? Thanks Kevin! :)
Unless the man's one watch is unreliable. And the man with 2 has the same time on both. In which case the first man is blissfully ignorant of his problem while the second man has absolute faith in the consensus of his 2 watches
@@homeboy_roy1570 Some people are into fashion, and they use their phone for time.
"Do you think brands are asking too much money?" Yes, of course.
"Are you happy to wear a fake?" No, of course.
I prefer to buy cheaper watches (good watches but with less money invested in marketing) or save to buy a real high end watch on the second hand market.
true. do not overpay. for ~$1000 you will get a very good watch for the money from Swiss or Japanese brands.
There is much more ways to spend money than wasting for retail overpriced watch
Where can I get the fake in the video
I think the same about homages. Rather have a good original seiko sarb, instead of a homage watch thats just not it.
True, every watch I own is an orient. A Bambino, a mako, and one orient star semi skeleton. Great watches at a fair price.
@@aRANDOMqUICKIEgunsandfun i only own a seiko sary053, got into serious watches 6 months ago.
The thing that gave it away for me was the 12 o'clock marker. On the fake it's noticeably misaligned (left)
I would have like too see both watches undertake a replicated waterproofing test etc
I think that it's terrible that these fakes are being sold. Who does this!? Where do people buy these? I mean specifically where? And how much?
Aaron Thomas good one
I had the 'opportunity' to buy this exact model and degree of precision fake for 700$.
@@Bob.martens where at? If you don't mind sharing
@@drodriguez1724 Belgium. I found it online (a very popular Belgian site for second-hand goods where literally anyone can advertise for free, generally not a good source for watches anyhow) for 650€. I knew that something was off, just because of the price. There were even reasonably detailed pictures, and only by comparing them side by side with reference pics I found like one visible screw missing. I made an appointment to go see it, never intending to buy it. The seller, a stereotype grom Central Casting, in spite of it's newness and lack of papers (there was a nice fake Omega box though) kept of course insisting it was genuine, and even loweried his price. I still don't understand who actually buys these. You could fool me with it from across a room, but anyone who knows what this is (most people can't tell an MVMT from an Omega, really) will spot it as at least 'weird' from any closer. But these fakes are getting better, though they basically are worthless once you buy them...
@@drodriguez1724 if you look well on dhgate you might find good replica
Where to get this?
1:36 the fake one is on the right, it can be noticed a finest wave engriving on the left dial due to the lasser cut.
The best wrist watch I ever say was a well dressed gentleman in Vegas who had this gorgeous wrist watch but when I looked closer had no hands on the face and said "I don't f..ing, care what time it is" I was 30 years younger and still remember how classy that was.
It's what Oscar Wilde said, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness"...
But really, these clones have gotten SCARY good. And really, objectively speaking, the question really does need to be answered. "When it looks nearly identical(only on macro level can you see differences on the face), is the price really worth it?"
it depends on who youre buying for. if you just want to look like you have a high end watch to other people then the fake is going to be good enough.
Marcquise White this is a great point. marketing have always sold us on craftsmanship and attention to detail for the high cost. But as this video shows, “craftsmanship” clearly doesn’t cost this much lol
I agree that many watches are overpriced strictly from the point of materials and production cost. However a painting that fetches millions is certainly not just the price of canvas and paint. As much as the fakes are impressive in reproducing the materials let's sit and watch those people produce an original design of their own. How desirable do you think their watches would be then?
@Marcquise White I agree that the same could be offered for less, but there is a lot that goes into delivering what Omega promises. A decorated in-house movement with a silicon hairspring that reaches an accuracy of 0/+5 sec is worth something. I agree, that the name Omega adds value as well, but in the video they discussed a replica at 1/10th the price. An unbranded watch that could actually preform as well as the authentic Omega would still fetch substantially more than the knock-off.
i know this quote from the office not oscar wilde lol
Where can I buy this exact watch from the video?
where can i buy it?
"A near exact replica can be purchased for a tenth of the price."
Ok you talked me into it. Where can I buy one?
Go to replica watch info aka rwi there you can find trusted replica watch dealers:)
@@user-js2dr9gv1u Yes for 4grand
Go to Reddit
r/designerreps
uhm skrrttt nah man r/reptime
Imagine my disappointment when I found out what I thought was a genuine Invicta Pro Diver was actually a fake.
Ahahahhaa
ROFL!
Paying homage to the greatest homage
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😂 this comment is gold
What are the best websites to buy such super clones?
Interesting choice of camera there - a Praktica, I'd guess.
Good optics, but not considered with the big names.
I collect genuine vintage watches but hey these clones are collectible without a doubt and I take my hat off to the ingenious way That they are replicated
Thanks for highlighting this situation, and the level of detail that they will go to. I don't think there is a problem for the buyer when he knows he is paying 1/10th the price for a forgery - it is when someone pays full price in this global market, and unknowingly spends genuine money on a fake, with no way to recoup the loss - that would be heart breaking! Cheers.
And when buying an watch on forums, ebay etc. one usually doesn't have confirmed real thing to compare to.
At least these are harmless, The fake Apple and Samsung chargers can kill you. th-cam.com/video/wi-b9k-0KfE/w-d-xo.html
@@robinsattahip2376 They aren't really harmless though. If you are a diver and the fake fails while you are diving it could kill or seriously injure you.
a fool and his money is soon parted
@@slick8086 I would agree but no one professionally diving uses a mechanical watch the point is now moot.
Is this copy from VSF factory by any chance ? I saw a datejust 41mm from them a while back and it was shockingly good ?
If anyone is having trouble trying to determine if a coaxial Omega is genuine, check the beat rate on a timegrapher. It should be 25,200 (3.5 hz). The high quality fakes will have a beat rate of 28,800 (4 hz).
This proofs a) the inability of an 150 year Swiss industry to produce watches more efficiently or b) greedy well-known Swiss watch brands continuing to charge a premium to products that aren’t worth it.
@shaun king Salty but true x 2 lol
That is true!! But on the positive side they pay millions to tennis players and F1 drivers cause they gotta eat to lol!! I have a Seamaster and love it and would never want the fake one but I do get sick of many brands (Rolex in particular) charging $10-12K for what is in reality a 2-3K watch.
Cedar Canoe millions to develop the movement and design, it’s easy to copy but to design its a whole new story
Good comment.The Japanese found a better way and now the Chinese are doing it better? I agree that Swiss pieces are ludicrously overpriced in this day and age of CNC and the capability of machining that's here and now with modern technology.History is changing as the modern world moves on?Cheers.
So the design and engineering behind an Omega in your opinion is zero'd just because someone can (somehow) replicate it to a degree of accuracy that is unacceptable by any luxury watchmaking standard? Without antimagnetic and chronometer standards, without attention to the fine detail? Mate.....
Until you told me the movement wasn’t a direct copy I thought “Omega, have you charged me too much” but now knowing it’s just a tarted up old movement I’m happy. Thank you for pointing out the differences it was a very informative video, keep up the excellent work.
You will never get the direct tie to George Daniels or his ingenious escapement in the fake. That can not and will never be replicated.
Alan Ashdown yah...what a deal for 10x more
@@titop96 sorry to disappoint but the co axial movement has been already replicated but only for the planet ocean and aqua Terra. Just Google: "A8900 super clone vsf"
@@patrickkallow4721 The direct tie to George Daniels will never be there. He worked directly with Omega passing down all of his knowledge and decades of experience with this escapement to produce the most accurate practical movements possible. George perfected the escapement to such a degree that he could measure changes in atmospheric pressure and humidity with the variance in time keeping. In order to make a real fake it would need to be done with the same equipment as Omega and the know how. There will always be cut corners when paying 1/10 th the cost.
@@patrickkallow4721 Correct, but the coaxial is still not there (the movement beats at 28800) and you can still recognize it by the fact that the rep has the regulator (while the gen is a free sprung balance). Great job by the factories anyway.
Where can I buy this
whats the site for that?
Philosophical: when they finally perfect the replication, then it would be real.
Philosophically..Look it is real ! You mean Genuine Manufacturer real! Philosophically every thing is real....But philosophically Nothing is what it seems to be anyway! I am just not gonna go shopping anywhere near you!
It is very hard to perfect replication especially the chronometer movements, the appearance it could be yes.
Roberto Reynaldo Maybe it is just a genuine Omega reject.....that seems much more likely!
Ken Hmm....I can tell you have a copy then! Lol
Except that in that case still the first would be the original, and the second would be a copy.
All horology house customers are here to see if they bought the fake one lol
you can tell right away by the crown. What about the crown movement? Is it the same as the true Omega? That would be a cool way to test it.
I bought this same model two days ago. Amazingly crafted, I am still finding new details to admire. I considered a replica, but as stated in the video, I enjoy the history, the craftsmanship and the ideas that went into the watch.
Where you find that replica?
Mine is not a replica.@@markwild2100
The fake doesn't seem like low quality, seems like pretty great quality actually.
Yep. Let's face facts. The average guy buying one of these watches isn't going to be deep-sea diving with it, nor have a need for an ultra-precise chronometer. He wants something with a good brand name that looks quality and impressive on his wrist. If a fake can be 98% convincing, that's more than enough to rationalize spending $400 instead of $4,000.
Of course if money is no object than the real one is a no-brainer. And there is of course much to be said about knowing that you own something with that kind of history and engineering behind it. But many people, when faced with the actual choice of spending their own money, will not be able to justify that kind of money when something this good is available as an alternative.
Lower quality fakes are easy to walk away from. But good ones... not so much.
jlozano2014 if you can’t see the glaring differences you deserve a fake.
Where did he purchase the fake?
@@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg for the most part I agree with you. But I think the person that can easily afford the real thing won't buy a fake unless they don't truly appreciate fine watches. And when it comes to watches this expensive, if you can't "easily" afford it, then you actually cannot afford it.
I can tell you first hand that it is - I own one. Comes from VSF factory, killer product. But a fake nonetheless, and I feel pretty fake wearing it, which has led me to just normally rock an apple watch instead. lol
My jeweler said that fakes are so good now, it's hard to know if you have an authentic watch. The part that bothered me is when they started making quartz watches and STILL wanted thousands of dollars for a steel watch. It proved that you are just buying the name, not a better time piece. I understand the work that goes in to mechanical watches, but the quartz ones are a joke.
I will give you the easiest way to tell the fake and real using modern omega as an example. Don't need a loop. Have your watchmaker throw it on the machine, if it beats anything other than 25,200 bph, it's fake fake fake. $1000 super clones may use off the shelf swiss movements. None of them have the resources, or care to build an in house movement.
Agree.
You go buy a Seiko high grade quartz watch and you will pay like 2000+ $. Even quartz made by the big ones are not the 50$ ones. Check Casio too.
I've been saving up for an Omega Seamaster for several years and every time I get the itch to buy a fake one, I purchase a relatively inexpensive Swiss watch to hold me over. Brands like Hamilton, Oris, and Tissot make excellent watches that hold their value and are the real thing. Fake watches just cheapen the whole watch hobby.
If a company can fake a luxury item which delivers everything the original can do, what does that say about the true value of the original? The reason the value is there for a Ferrari or a precious metal like gold is that they cannot be replicated. My point being that watches don't have the value the industry thinks they do and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't hold their value through real tough times that are probable in the coming decade.
I did the same, found a Tissot Seastar on sale for $500. Genuine watch, fantastic looks, reasonable accuracy for a mechanical watch at a 10th of the Omega.
Where can I buy one
All those details are meaningless when you don't have a monocle to see it all.
Wow, blown away by the fake!!! If I had the money I’d probably buy both, the fake for wearing on a night out in Swindon, the authentic for everywhere else 🤣
Silly. Just wear the original. No reason to "save" it for the next owner.
@@TucsonDude I think his point is that he’s just not gonna wear the real one when going out somewhere he might get mugged for it.
If the rest of the progress made by China is considered then the Swiss Watch industry needs to be very frightened.
@@christurner6430 and rightly so. Sorry, but these swiss brands are WAY overpricved. Price gouging at its best. They can go the way of the Dinosaur imho.
Actually, there are wealthy people who do just that - wear replicas of original watches they own. This was mentioned in a recent article I found in my feed. The reason was they were afraid they would get robbed in public just for their watches. There was a guy in Northern California who was mugged for his Richard Mille, so yeah, it happens, and I understand the fear.
I have a fake breitling for Bentley and it’s lasted over a decade. It’s a great looking watch although not perfect. I’m not rich so I only have one “nice” watch and a few great watches that are cheaper. The fake breitling is my go to for dressing up, and to an untrained eye, it looks like a phenomenal expensive watch.
Kinda scary, and definitely makes you think about buying second hand.
It would be interesting if you could go further into the difference between the movements, taking one apart and showing the difference in quality of the minute machining and movement. You showed a small segment of a gear, but if you could go even deeper it would be helpful!
My 23 year old Rolex Air King is genuine yet not one person has ever said to me anything about it other than "is it a fake?". I guess I should have gotten a fake, saving a sack full of money and just say 'no, it's a real Rolex'. I'm watching this vid as I'm close to pulling the trigger on one one of these Omega fakes. You could say that I've learned my lesson.
real ones can be a great heirloom for your kids though, the fakes not so much. also, if you ever fall on hard times, you can sell the rolex.
but yeah, a rolex really isnt something that people appreciate anymore, jealousy/downtalking culture is huge about watches
My only kid has a Rolex and a Breitling already but her son will likely inherit his grandpa's Rolex. I never did get the Omega fake, instead, I got an Orient Kamasu with red dial. Wow, what a terrific looking watch. Check 'em out.
I’m a watch collector, and I have both genuine and high end fakes in my collection. I have a fake Rolex submariner Pepsi GMT which I bought in the Philippines in 2006 for about £75 which is still working perfectly and keeping accurate time. It still looks the part, weigh’s heavy and is a very good copy. Forgetting the name on the dial, it has turned out to be a very good purchase for £75 fifteen years ago !
You vastly overestimate how much the average person knows about watches. Go down the street and maybe 2 or 3 people can even visualize what a submariner looks like. I spoke with a guy who owned a dayjust and told me he was a huge fan of Rolex, and told him that my favorite Rolex was a Milgauss. He have never even heard of it.
A friend of mine buys expensive watches, and buys fakes of the same watch, he only wears the fake watches "just in case"
A friend of mine didn't think about the "just in case". He accidentally dropped his gen AP Diver into the concrete floor 😂
That’s pretty dumb, why buy gen then?
@@gonzalorojo6815 to appreciate the watch as a mechanism and also to wear at nice events where it can't be stolen/dropped etc?
@@PhiNguyen-vg2zo there's always some thug willing to mug you lol. If you think you are ever truly "safe" with an expensive watch, you are both wrong and delusional. That's just how the world is.
That's absurd. If you cannot protect yourself, it makes no difference if it's real or fake. The bad guy is going to hurt you either way-- because he perceives it as the genuine article, and worthy of violence.
where i can buy ?
This was eye opening. I thought I missed out on an excellent deal from a local seller recently. I now know it was likely a fake.
This is my asmr channel.
He should really be whispering and doing weird little sounds with his mouth when describing the watches.
Serious question. Shouldn't high-end watches be cheaper these days because of the introduction of precision high-tech machinery? I doubt if a watch buyer now would be paying for exactly the same expensive labor that was put into the older watches.
no. they do 3d print some stuff now, but it still needs hours of craftsmanship to finish and assemble 300+ parts.
@@petercrenfield Yep, 3D printed metals are commonly used to make complex, light and durable parts.
@@petercrenfield A common method uses lasers to melt specific portions of a powder together.
It would likely hold up very well as you could make complex internal support structures, It's used in rocket engines and medical devices.
Probably isn't used to make watches though, it's extremely expensive.
Very probably. Judging by the replicas I've seen in person I guess that e.g. Rolex could sell their watches at 30-40% of what they are asking and still make good profit.
(although that would most likely drop their desireability by the same amount)
That said the materials/details and tolerances also evolved over time. Acrylic, brass, paint and aluminium have been replaced with materials like saphire, steel, white gold and ceramic.
And yet a Rolex has exploded in retail price.
did you notice the difference in the dot at the twelve o clock position ? one is recessed more...
So where do you buy the fake one?
Me = into watches but cant afford them
Chinese clone makers = I got u fam
$500-600 on the low end, $1000+ for the high end, but honestly, for the price compared to the real it's not comparable 👍
Im not about supporting fakes but it's not like some douche is gonna stop you in the middle of the street whip out a magnifying glass and start eyefucking every crack and crevice of your watch, so you know you do you
@@DjVader112 lmao
jdl 96 dude thats not bullshit.. ppl can still tell they are fake if you look good at it... these ones are more expensive...
You don't really need to scrutinise the watch to tell if it's fake or not lol
Omega is happy to slap 007 on a Seamaster and charge YOU double. Loyalty goes both ways.
The 007 and other "special" versions are not intended for everyone. Nobody needs to buy them. You have choices. I could, but I don't own any. Its not my thing regadless of price.
@@bradleybaker8894 Lol right..
Anyone can tell me if the blue color on the bezel ( tissot seastar 36mm)getting fade over the time.. I want to buy one but I'm indecisive wich one to choose white or blue. Thanks
Where i can buy this replica?Thank you and best regards.