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The Tradwives of Instagram
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
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Today we're covering the tradwife movement that has been popping off on Instagram. Shiznit is wack yo.
Thanks for watching!
"That's right, these women made it their careers to tell women to not be financially independent while they make THOUSANDS online peddling disinformation." This is why I subscribed to you, dawg.
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😂 I have to laugh at the inconsistency to keep from getting exhausted by their mentality.
I like your comment but I don't want to ruin the number of 666 likes on your comment so I'm writing it here 😀😀
And they're selling hundreds of dollars courses on parenting tips.
@@Ar-RumMediaCenter kids they probably barely raise but rather have a nanny do it so they can spend their time filming themselves cosplaying being a stay-at-home Mom to sucker younger women into not getting a job.
Whichever way you try to spin it "Accept discipline sweetly" will always sound wrong and sinister.
That reminds me of the ‘keep sweet’ cult 🤢
That sounds like something you'd say in the bedroom. In which case...vibe I guess but like this ain't the bedroom, this is the internet 💀
@@SR-zp4je EXACTLY. Same vibe and same intentions.
@@SR-zp4je My first association as well. I kept hearing that "Keep sweet, keep sweet" song in my head and getting incredibly aggressive...
@@HazZzel-LOL, indeed. If the Internet is any room in the house, surely, it is either the toilet or the basement...
These are not “stay at home” moms/wives. They’re working from home. Their job is posting on social media in their monetised accounts +brand promotions. They’re not fully financially dependent on their husbands as the housewives of the 50s. They’re not “traditional” by their own definition. Don’t let them fool you.
Exactly
They are cosplaying the 1950’s housewife. Pretty sure if our grandmas had more choices back then, they would have chosen to go to college and have careers, travel and do what they wanted instead of being at the mercy of a man for their financial well being. My grandmas always encouraged me to go to college and figure out what I want to do with my life. They never once told me I should focus on dating, getting married and having lots of kids.
This message also kind of shames men too, it tells men that if they can't afford to have a stay-at-home wife they are trash husbands. MOST couples can't afford a single income household and that's okay! My husband and I both work and both take days off to cook, clean and raise our son. I don't like it when people shame these woman for staying home, but I don't appreciate being shamed for having to work either. I think we should just live our lives and mind our own business.
agreed, people shaming others for not taking a more "traditional" route fail to understand that even in the 50's this type of lifestyle was a privilege for most.
Yea as a young man it's been scary because of nasty men fetishizing the woman being a homemaker which is a good thing if your family can afford it but it's also been scary seeing a lot of women say that the man has to pay all the bills and is worthless if he can't even if the woman makes money. So your comment helps and I hope well on your relationship and family. I just sometimes from seeing the craziness feel like i'm going to be worthless if I don't make 80k or more but thankfully I have my dad and even though my stepmom is a homemaker they still believe it is good for both partners to work. Have a goo day.
I think the goal should be to have it so your wife doesn’t have to work if she doesn’t want to in most of the relationships at someponint the man and woman both worked but then that was able to change
@@Jb64271 why should there be a goal that only benefits women tho? Like many men would want to have that too.
@@JaydenHolland-wo4fd as a female who gets a brain ache from all these extremely stupid forced gender roles - relax. Find yourself a sane human being as a partner who won't force you to pay for evertything just cuz you have a dick. People nowadays should litetally be shamed for sexist shit, feminists didn't fought their ass off for these bitches to shame people instead of going to therapy and treating their evident fear of life and a desire to be a kid in care of a 'big strong man' aka the unachivable ideal they gonna force on real people. They don't need a partner - they literally want a sevior who won't have any needs and fears. GROSS.
Any wife who has time to dress up, shoot, edit and post that stuff online; she’s not a traditional wife. She’s just an actress. No wife, back in the day would have been allowed to do this.
Lmao 🤣😆 So true. The sarcasm is so on point
Those women are garnering audience because they showcase what most men want in their wives. Like this guy because he is saying EXACTLY what women want to hear. You're a pawn in the game played by two symbiotic parasites, one makes content to confuse and anger you while the other makes content on previous content to calm you. Look at it like this: If this guy had a button which would erase all misogyny and nonsense like above, would he push it? Would he cut the branch he sits on? Kill the factory that produces content for him to react and give his two piece on? NO.
Ah, that's not true. That's hugely exaggerated... Just look at Phylis Schafly as one such example...
@@samhayet4286Phylis did what the modern trad wives are doing: working. Phyllis sold a lifestyle she herself did not live.
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The irony of getting pregnant as a teen then going on to talk shit about people sleeping around in their 20's instead of taking care of children because you're too busy in your 20s taking care of your kids that you had as a teen.
No hate to teen parents though, except the ones that turned into trad spouse 20 somethings.
They were getting experience for their husbands, that's totally different!
@@corneliahanimann2173 How so? A teen mom is a teen mom.
@@Cvpidbaku I was being
Sarcastic
They're like converts in most religions. They turn holier-than-thou and everyone else just isn't pious enough.
@@corneliahanimann2173 Who knows, you're user do fit the stereotype of an millenial, cant blame me.
Honestly, one of the scariest, most abusive toxic relationship situations I have ever seen was actually in one of these "trad wife" relationships. You might think it was against the wife, but it was actually against the husband. He was emotionally abused into working like 5 different jobs so that she could not only be a stay-at-home wife (which is fine) but ALSO spend tones of money basically curating her life into this "traditional" fantasy (not fine). When he became seriously injured on one of these jobs, she became physically, financially, and emotionally abusive against him, routinely telling him he was now worthless (since he couldn't earn money) while literally stealing all his money and refusing him money for things like food. She basically neglected him aside from constantly telling him what a failure. Men/boys, you are not just a paycheck, and deserve to be with someone who is going to be your partner (including things like not putting their Instagram fantasy above your safety and health, and still respecting you and loving you if you get injured). Wanting traditional roles for yourself is ok, but what i saw was downright toxic.
People need to read this one . These women are telling other women to use men just as a paycheck, and serve him for it . Most men think they'll be happy but they forget that they can become victims as well .
that's so freaking sad. hope that guy is in a better place now
Being a trad wife that doesnt do her trad wife duty of taking care of her husband. Wow
Poor guy, in this economy I won't even think about letting my fiance work his ass off alone when I most definitely can help out.
This is the flipside of it. Men literally cant handle the burden of this lifestyle.
It's so funny to me because throughout most of history women worked too. They were often in charge of finances and servants if they were rich and planned social events. If they were poor they litteraly did the same work as their husbands or children. Even in Victorian times women who were high class but not rich did jobs outside the house. The "tradwife" is a thing that only came about for a brief time after the second world war Because men who served could afford to have a stay at home wife and Obviously it's nice to have a parent around the kids as much as possible. They also ended up taking care of their husbands often because they would come back with PTSD and other such things that weren't fully understood at the time
Also, those wives would do work that previously was done by servants. Even middle class women in the 19th century could afford a cook (see Little Women, they are supposed to be super poor but have a cook).
Most wives in the 50's didn't have that help, so they have to do everything by themselves.
In Germany there were advertisements for really strong alcohol for the stay at home wives in the 50s to make them happy again and to not be hysterical with their husbands. Women in the 50s weren't happy living that life to the extent that they put ads on national TV with "cures" for their "irrational behaviour"!!!
What jobs did high class women have? Other than being a lady’s companion or an actress, I’ve never heard of any occupations for upper-class women.
@@mastersnet18 was being an artist considered a job? Some of them could access to this kind of formation
@@vilwarin5635I suppose, though I haven’t heard of many famous female artists from that time.
Being a christian from birthbup until now, I love it when people say the Bible tells us how much women are only supposed to be home makers when that is so wrong. They twist the verse in Genesis that says that woman are to birth in pain as women are supposed to only have children. They twist the verse that says Adam is going to stuggle amidst the dirt and farming as only men are supposed to work. They fail to realize that in 1st kings, there is a woman who had to work to make sure her and her sone were fed. Deborah in the bible was a judge. The proverbs 31 woman was a wife, mother, AND she worked. On top of that, Paul in the new testement says that there will be those who dont get married and that it is probably better to be single like him. No, there is nothing wrong with wanting to be a SAH mother and wife, but don't push it on to others to be mandatory. I, like many other Christian women, have ambitions in life.
Plus, unless you have a rich hubby, it is not economically intelligent to leave the weight of finance on one person when anything can happen.
Hear...hear. Abraham wife, sarah worked. She manage a camel farm.
AMEN! I think the Real Femsapian and Just Pearly is strung out on drugs. You can look in their eyes and tell.
Yes, thank you!! I’m Christian too and it’s so frustrating when people take things out of context! I will be somewhat a stay at home when I have our baby, but not everyone can or should and that’s okay!
You just put it to words so wonderfully ❤️❤️❤️
As a Christian I agree !!
I was a "Trad Wife" for 14 years. It was a living hell. No joke. I'm grateful I got out alive. If it wasn't the abuse that would have killed me, I may have just ended it. I was that terrified, anxious, lonely 24/7.
The thing is, I was "making bread" next to the ex every day for years and never got paid.
I'm 5 years out and still healing and it's painfully hard. I wonder who I'd be if I hadn't experienced it, but then again, I'm stronger now and more MYSELF now because leaving the ex also brought forward the issues and dysfunction in my family of origin.
Case in point: my parents decided to tell me and my new (healthy/safe) husband that we weren't "traditional" because I was making more $ than him AND then they questioned our "church attendance". He was working 3 jobs and my mom had the nerve to say she was worried my now hubby was taking advantage of me. 🤦🏻♀️ A year later I told my mom we are egalitarian~ EQUALS. She didn't have much to say about that.
Deconstructing from religion and Trad Values has been hard but so worth it.
We. Are. All. Equals. ❤
@@star_jams4nekos that's a bit dramatic.
@@star_jams4nekos I wouldn’t mind lol … maybe not everyday cause that is excessive, nobody needs that much bread lol but I’d love to stay at home as a wife and make bread from time to time lol but of course that’s a very very very minute part of what being a housewife means anyway
@@star_jams4nekosI literally bake my own bread at least once a week. It's honestly the easiest thing to bake, and it makes the house smell amazing. Tastes so much better than store-bought, and is far healthier, too.
I absolutely LOVE being a housewife, and I'm so thankful my husband works hard so I don't have to return to the dead-end, burnt out life of a public school teacher. It's definitely not for everyone, and that's fine; but for those of us who actually want to be housewives, it's nowhere near "hellish".
The truth is, that man would have abused you whether you stayed at home or went to work and you probably would have stayed through it at least a while despite him doing it and despite having the money ey to escape it.
@cwhipp9805
So what? Financial abuse doesn't exist because abusers be abusing either way? You'd be surprised. There's a reason so many cultures specifically didn't let women own money and property and it's not "Oh, she would stay even if she did have the money to leave".
Assalam u Alaikum (peace be with you). I am a Pakistani feminist Muslim woman. I have noticed that these insta trad wives are mostly white women . If they love traditional roles so much they can come here in Pakistan. I know many Pakistani men have a type for white women & they will be crazy to know that these white trad wives are also traditional . Because here some people think white woman = feminist , bad women , sl*t , etc. I know they will never come to Pakistan & they can't even live one day here. They will never marry Pakistani men. I am not judging but i know some of these trad wives are r@ci3t towards men of colour . These white trad women are so lucky to be born in West. We are literally fighting for basic human rights. These trad women are so ungrateful. Even feminism gives them the rigth to choice to be a housewife or not to be a housewife. Seriously i hate marriage. I always wish to be born in west so at least my mom can divorce from my sh*tty dad. Divorce is a taboo in Pakistan. Divorce is literally considered a curse word in my mom side of family. My mom lived 25+ years as a traditional wife. Yet my dad did so much bad with my mom , me & my brother. Please ladies as a Pakistani this traditional thing is a scam . Go get your degrees, do a job , be financially stable , my best request is to dont marry at all or dont marry before 25 or also don't have children just in 1 yr of marriage. Dont have kids before 4 yrs of your marriage. Bcz if your spouse is a red flag. You will get easily divorce & at least kids will not suffer like me & my little brother. Bcz in Pakistan it's basically a culture to have kids just after 1 yr of marriage. Basically its a tactic that men use to control women & these men know that these women will stuck forever with them especially for kids.
@@chex4214 What's wrong in being single & being fat ? Yes being obese is bad & dangerous especially morbidly obese but being fat is not bad. Because I am fat and not obese . I asked my doctors about my weight that I want to lose my weight & how I can lose it , etc . They give me some diet plans, exercises & told me not to worry because I was so worried so they told me i am just overweight & not obese. Basically they were saying lose weight but in a healthy manner & don't use dangerous methods to lose weight. Also losing weight takes time. I am trying. I can't get in shape in just a few days. You can't Judge random people & say they are not losing weight or Atleast trying ? I also used to judge people like you but I am trying not to judge people. You said you are Asian. Which Asian ? I am from South Asia & my country is Pakistan 🇵🇰. I am guessing you are from South Korea?
@@chex4214 you literally judge people too much. "They do not look happy" again by looking people especially random people you can't judge someone that they are not happy in their life especially what reasons are for their sadness. Especially according to you "happiness" only comes from family & kids. About kids they can adopt. Adoption is much more noble than giving birth. So many children are suffering in orphanages. I will always choose adoption. Also in my religion Islam it's literally a very noble deed than giving birth . But unfortunately many South Asian Muslims today just think giving birth is the only thing & "happiness" they can achieve. They just want a child with their blood. Not someone else's blood. This behaviour comes from British colonizers which was a common practice among royal families at that time to keep family blood lines pure. About family. Just because someone is not married doesn't mean they don't have any family members. Like I am single. I have mom dad my brother & we 🇵🇰 have very huge families. So yeah I have very huge families from Both sides of my parents. Just because someone is not married doesn't mean they don't have any family members. Also in Islam marriage is not obligatory but optional. Having kids is also optional in Islam. I have severe mental issues, health issues, etc because of my own family my dad & my own mom. Even tho in Islam marriage is a very beautiful thing but I literally don't like marriage in general. I am sad , fat , depressed, weak , etc because of my own dad , mom & many of my family members. Not because I am not married or don't have kids. Because I was severely @b*3* not physically but mentally. So I am already suffering.
@@chex4214 about single , fat thing. Well in our culture. People get fat or obese after marriage. That's our 🇵🇰 culture. Single people are infact very skinny. Before when they are single they are not too happy but at least not to sad. After marriage they get fat , sad , depressed especially having kids. So it opposite. I know a make teacher. He was very happy , cheerful, clothes which were very colourful , before marriage but after some days of marriage he was just very not happy cheerful jolly. His clothes become very simple colours. In our culture marriage is a must thing. Everyone must get married at some point of life. Also another teacher gets a little overweight not even fat after marriage he was very skinny now overweight
@@chex4214 about liberal feminism. It's just a sect of white feminism. White feminism is imperialism, white s*pr3m@cy feminism. Doesn't matter which sect or branch it is. It's just white feminism. Nope I am not a liberal feminist. Infact I am against liberal feminism. I am just a feminist. I follow South Asian feminism. Liberal feminists doesn't talk on real life issues infact they use women who are literally suffering especially in third world countries just to promote their only fans . They are r@c**t , Misogynists , Islamphobic , etc. They are against the hijab niqab (which Muslim women wear) all the time. They use those Muslim women who are forced to wear hijab only to be Islamphobic & anti hijab. Then they blame all the women's sufferings on hijab & Islam instead of blaming men & patriarchy. Yes these liberal feminists are Misogynists they all the time blame men but when it comes to Islam or hijab they don't blame men. These liberal feminists lie they are against forcing hijab or even against hijab but when France banned Hijab abayas & even maxi skirts (if you don't believe me you can Google) they are silent. One of them speaks what France is doing. France put very heavy fines on the hijab. They even put Muslim women in pr!30ns just because of wearing hijab. Again where are liberal feminists when we need them. They are just white women putting identity labels. These liberal feminists used poor Mahsa Amini just for their white agenda. But when it comes to countries like France there is a pin drop silence. There are also many western countries banning hijab niqab. Then these western countries have the audacity to call themselves as a safe heaven for women but in reality it's not true. They fine Muslim women in millions , etc. I am against both forcing to wear hijab & forcing to remove hijab. But if liberal feminists are so against "force" then why they are so silent when it comes to France , Denmark , etc. These are basically Karens. These Karens solution to all the women is just wear bikini , only fans , etc. These Karens needs to get out of Muslim women's business.
@@chex4214" the women don't even know how to cook blah blah ". Are you okay ? Sir we women are not made for the kitchen. Why only women why not men ? What about Gordan Ramsey ? Cooking is a basic life skill which all people should know regardless of sex or gender. Cooking has nothing to do with gender. Well at least we women wash our a**. Their are men who don't even wash because it is "gay" to wash .... Men literally don't even know basic hygiene. They think not shaving decades old armpit hair or down their is "gay " or "women thing". In Islam both men & women must remove armpit & down their hairs after 40 days. Basic hygiene has nothing to do with gender or sex. But their are men who refused to take showers for ages because taking showers is "gay". In Islam basic hygiene is must for both men & women. Atleast our Muslim men take showers, shave armpit hairs & wash their.....It's not Muslim culture thing. Its just white men who started this nonsense. Again "women don't even know to cook now" is a patriarchal statement that women main goal is to cook or clean. Our Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW used to cook his own food , mend his own shoes , sew his own clothes, etc. So in Islam cooking cleaning has nothing to do with gender. Men are also encouraged to help their wives in household chores if they have time.
Why anyone would want a slave instead of a PARTNER is beyond me.
@xZampx Why do you feel called out? I didn't say housewives were slaves. If you don't feel like a slave then you probably have a good marriage.
@@zamp_gaming did you watch the video?
i didnt know being a trad wife is a slave but ok
@@lycan2494 dear they are talking about the girl in the video
@@lycan2494the way a lot of these insta trad wives frame is makes it feel that way. marriage is supposed to be about equal partnership, regardless of who makes money or how much. if a family can afford to be single income and both people want it, that is amazing but that doesn’t mean the partner staying at home should be subservient to the one that brings in an income. i know too many “stay at home moms” who do all of the emotional labor, being the sole caregiver of their children and in charge of maintaining their homes while believing their husband providing only financial support, and nothing else is, okay. there is more a man can contribute to their marriage and families than just money.
A reference to Chad Chad. Her channel is really funny btw. Good content. I wasnt expecting to see her in this video.
Chadchad is truly the 🐐
@@RayLikeSunshine FR
She is beautiful too
I love chadchad too
AYAYAYYay@@sanninlegends1843
“this is what i call grooming” SENT me
LMAO I feel this in my soul: "honestly I kind of envy these people. I too wish I could have a blissful state of denial all my life."
it sounds great but you also get night sweats and nightmares and your brain starts glitching.
it's almost this surreal experience where someone tells you 5 things and you only hear one of them and your brain actually pauses while it ignores the other 4.
You get to a point where you can't think, can't look around, can't talk to anyone about anything, all you have is the denial and this huge feeling that something is not ok.
@@kyleydiamond thank you so much for sharing this, I felt a similar way when I was in a relationship with someone who was incredibly manipulative, and everything people would say to try and help me, just didn’t compute and I felt so alienated from myself. I didn’t want to listen to anything that threatened that state of denial. I feel what you wrote on such a deep level and just want to say thank you again, and am sending you lots of love 🧡
See, I'm a "traditional" wife. But I run a business 3 days a week and stay home the rest of the time. However all these tradwives are romantsizing this life by showing off their perfect makeup and hair, and perfect clean clothes. Life is not like that. It just isn't. I have a chronic illness. I'd never be able to dress like that 100% of the time. If someone wants to do this, go for it fr fr. But the thing is them shaming others for not living that lifestyle. It's just not for everyone.
You cannot have a business and be a trad-wive. You’re a working mom. Being a trad-wife means you stay home, raise the kids, care for the house, and your husband works and pays for everything. That’s why these trad-wives Tik-Tokers are not trad-wives, and many do them admit to not living the way they portray.
I agree with you about the romanticism and the aesthetics that are performative for the camera because in real life,they likely don't look this put together while doing chores. Also the thing is they are advertising this lifestyle and not giving the bad side of it which could affect people who just aren't made to be a trad wife. Also the shaming of people who choose a different path in life is yikes...that's what makes them awful,this spreading of false information on how it's in women's biology to be subserviant.
@@queenofbeinghungryaf1025 that's right!! It's the shaming others that really gets under my skin
“Finish growing up at his side”
Fuck. I’ve only now truly understood the definition of cringe.
Shocked that your channel is so new. Your presentation is excellent already. Keep it up man!
damn you gonna make a grown man cry, how am I supposed to find my tradwife with tears
@@RayLikeSunshine LMAOOOOO
GRIM FANDANGO PFP!!!!?!?!!!???????
@@elise2399Love is for the living, Sal.
It is a toxic trap.
You can be home all day cleaning cooking and doing it all but if he does not witness you doing it he won't believe you did anything.
Women you need to have respect for yourself.
Ugh yes! I was a sahm for a few yrs. All of a sudden, because I wasn't "working" a typical job, I did "nothing all day" in his eyes. It got to a point where I stopped including his stuff in my daily upkeep duties lol. The pile of clothes he created in front of the hamper didn't get washed. Stopped buying his favorite snacks & foods when I went grocery shopping. Any trash, dishes or socks left in his little corner by the TV sat right where he left them. When I cooked for myself & our kid, any leftovers went right in tubs into the fridge, I would sit right down next to him & eat. House was spotless with his little pockets of filth just so he could see exactly what "nothing" really looked like lol. I'm so glad to be free of that foolishness.
he will believe it if he’s a good man and he pays attention!
@@scarlettbigam9893 You cannot bet on a man being a good man or understanding that just because he doesn’t see you working doesn’t mean that you weren’t. What op wrote is so common for women to experience that even the so called “good” guys act this way as soon as the wife stays home. Keep your eyes open is all I’m saying. You will never get anywhere relying on the goodness of people.
As a housewife, I have a lot of respect for myself. Enough for me to realize that my job as a public school teacher was doing absolutely nothing for my happiness or my mental health. Staying home, baking and cooking and cleaning, and raising MY family instead of relying on someone else to do it for me? That brings me the most happiness and gives me the most respect for myself. Knowing that I'm free to embrace my femininity and actually enjoy something in a way that matters to MY family is the best thing for my mental health.
And just because my husband doesn't "see" me doing any of it while he's working, doesn't mean he automatically assumes I didn't do anything at all. He comes home to a clean house, a freshly cooked homemade meal, and a happy family at the end of every day.
Please. Stop assuming you know what being a housewife is like just because you watched the fake "trad wives" on social media.
Yes, respect yourself by choosing a husband who appreciates and respects you!
You should depend on your husband and he should depend on you - that's the beauty of a good marriage 😊
I can’t imagine being a trad wife, especially considering my once happy marriage took a nose dive when my husband took a 180 from everything I thought I knew about him. I had agreed to a no-contest quick divorce to avoid alimony (I was the bread winner), which ended up with him taking most of everything, while I just got my clothes and the cat. I had to rebuild my life from the ground up and buy new furniture.
There’s no way I could’ve done that if I had relied solely on him like a trad wife, with no job experience or further education. These women better hope that doesn’t happen to them, because it seems to be too common a tale of life partners changing suddenly like they’re having a mid-life crisis and betraying your trust. I have 2 female friends who’d gone through it too.
Oh no.... isn't the other way ? Women taking away everything from men. /S
These men will blame women for taking anything in a divorce though
And apparently, housewives are among the most likely demographic to be divorced. Social media may be helping "trads" push out their pernicious lies, but it's also giving many others a platform to share their own experiences. A lot of the ugly realities of "tradition" are starting to come out of the woodwork now.
@@Dhyaam5989 not if the ex-husband was active duty and childfree. We lived on base, so it wasn’t like I could keep the house being a civilian, despite being a veteran myself. I was way too nice about it in the end… I even let him keep the PS5, even though we’d agreed that I’d get it (I played it more than he did) because I knew I’d be able to afford a new one easily but he wouldn’t. We couldn’t afford a moving truck at the time either. I knew I’d be in a better situation than him in time though, as long as we continued on with the agreed upon quick cut-and-run divorce.
Now, I make almost 6 figures while I know he’s struggling financially on his own-I still have access to our old shared bank account, so I can see the $ he has and it’s not much. I really need to call the bank some time to cut my access to it, because I don’t want to see it anymore every time log onto my bank app. Despite his betrayal, I still occasionally worry about him, but he made his bed and it’s not my problem anymore.
@@Dhyaam5989 the case above is one of the few. Its ALWAYS the other way around. She got a taste of what most men have to get at one point of their life, part with their resources to an unworthy partner because law demands it. Isn't it funny when it happens to y'all? lmao, when its men complaining about how women destroy them in divorce, the ysound like incels to you and the woman deserves every penny she received, even more becuase she somehow magically contributed to it. One taste of what men go through and above lady is already at her boiling point. Life as a man isn't for novices.
@chaitanyagupta6668
I take it you believe rape is a fake fairytale that never ever actually happens and only exists in the minds of women trying to falsely accuse good men? How about childhood sexual assault? That one doesn't even *require* you to marry. And it mostly happens to girls, so according to your twisted logic boys who are victimized shouldn't complain because the other gender "has it harder".
No way I’m first? This video is underrated. Thank you for speaking about this and for calling out the hypocrisy/delulu of these tradwife influencers. Like you said, their decisions are respected but there’s no reason to push it onto everyone, especially given the historical context of oppressing women into these roles.
Thank you :), absolutely, the context is really important and always missed in the tradwife sphere of discussion
2:35 is wildddd
"Having an abortion is the most evil thing you can do"
"Apologize if you disobey"
"Always side with your husband"
"Have the house clean when he comes home"
"A woman's purpose is to support her husband and give him as many babies as she can"
"Submit with a smile"
How do these people manage to not get canceled? These are, to me, obviously stupid sentences to say, starting with the fact that they are like all-or-nothing and act like all women can take the woman's role and all men can take the man's role in this
I too want a traditional woman. A woman like the Chinese pirate who brought the east Indian trading Company to its knees. Who the Chinese royal family had to beg to retire so they would stop losing money. Real traditional women. 🤘🏻
Sounds like a Chadwife
You're referring to Ching Shih. She was awesome
you mean the thrill of having tamed a ferocious women? Like those novels about enslaving an amazonian proud woman into your little obedient puppet who is ready to satisfy your every whim and desire?
Nice!
Hell fuckin yeah 🤘
CHAD CHAD FAN ‼️‼️‼️
currently binging your videos while gaming, the highest honor i can give to a youtuber
you're carrying my channel 🙏🙏🙏
the algorithm was cooking something when it recommended me your channel
bread probably
@@RayLikeSunshine But was it the edible type?? 🤨
My own mother was thrown to the streets by our bishop, who refused to help her after my parents divorced. She was a religiously-devout stay at home mom for my whole life, and it really didn't pay off for her at all. I recently became a stay at home mom myself after a lifetime of being financially independent, and it scares me. My husband is very supportive, and he would never throw us out on the street, but the fact that working and raising a child became too much really grates on me as someone who legitimately tried to be financially independent and just couldn't meet everyone's needs due to the demands of job and family. I see other women who legitimately do enjoy it, and I honestly envy them because I wish I did, but I also don't understand how any woman can walk into a partnership with a man and be okay with the possibility that they will lose everything if something happens. It's one thing to want to be a housewife. It's another to think that you don't need or can't have anything else in life. Even housewives need backup plans because no one is going to bail you out if something goes wrong.
I can see the parallels between your content and Chad Chad's.
this is the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me
As someone who actually has traditional skills unlike 99% of these tradwives these videos always make me cringe. Like all they do is make mediocre bread (they really look like bricks sometimes) and basic meals that 80% of men and women can cook.
Theres so much more to being actually trad and they can do none of it, they can hardly even sew most of the time. Ur not trad, ur living a bdsm lifestyle and trying to take everyone into it.
I can tell you, i would cook, clean and do everything for my boyfriend if he worked full time to support us, which is actually our goal.
Yet hes the one who worships me. He doesnt see me as below him and he was the one chasing me.
I dont have to upkeep and wear makeup everyday (that also ages you extremely girl...) and i dont need to keep my figure despite my boyfriend being extremely athletic. I don't have to follow any rules because I AM AN ADULT. Theres no punishments. Feeling depressed? I dont have to do as much today.
This is a healthy relationship.
Theres no forcing, no "i expect this though!". And thats precicely why i dont feel the need to make a tiktok account to show how we live to prove to myself im happy.
Oh and hes 3 Years younger than me lmao!
I am married for over 20 years, on and off SAHM, but I agree with you. These TradWives are hardly doing things us veteran moms do. I cook (good enough I opened a rave reviewed business of it), clean, sew, I train our dogs, care for neighbors, run errands for my elderly parents, and raise my 3 children... all while suffering chronic illness that requires prescription if I want to stay alive. And while I can do it all, I would recommend girls not follow the tradwife trend, they are dangerous with their false advertisement to young impressionable girls who want to opt out of college. The fact that many of them are Christians like me, and want to shove the concept of marriage on everyone as obligation is what ticks me off. Marriage and sahm is a vocation only decided between God and the individual, no one not even parents should pressure you into marriage because they are not God and they dont know Gods will for the individual, so they need to shut up and sit down and mind their own damn business.
Hey hey hey... Don't pull us into this! Bsdm has safe word and we keep it in the bedroom ok.
Tho seriously, they need realize that they has a fetish and not everyone is into it.
I’d be careful about bragging. Men are notorious for switching up when their partner stops working, so be smart about this.
As a Christian woman w traditional values this is so wholesome 😩. I think that’s the type of relationship that most traditional women want. Some of the "tradwifes" of social media give toxic advices and honestly i don’t even think that they’re really traditional 💀 sometimes i feel like its just for the cameras
"Thankful to the 24 year old that married me so I could finish growing up by his side."
So much yikes. Wouldn't it be better to have finished growing up before you got married and started having children of your own? Did your husband know he was signing up to be your daddy for at least some period of time while he was supervising your growing up? Once you've finished growing up, will your husband still be interested in a fully grown up woman when he originally wanted someone who was still a little girl? What happens if your husband ends up getting seriously ill or dying in an accident; you have no idea how to live without a father taking care of you (you exchanged biological father for a husband-father)?
🤫 shhhh! All that requires foresight and proper discernment.
Which obviously teenagers don’t have a lot of. Go figure.
yess
I met a woman who met her husband at 14 (he was close in age). they were married until their early 40s and just got divorced. she literally COULD NOT WALK. Because he had made every decision for her for like 30 years and her brain didn't have the pathways to do it alone.
it was a huge thing to learn.
I've thought about this too- if having kids is basically teaching someone what you know, isn't it IDEAL for a society to have people finish high school, go to post secondary, travel, get some life experience, and then have kids?
My parents had us around 30, and taught us everything they learned after 18. whereas some of my peers only learned how to be cool in high school from their parents.
@@kyleydiamondThat's so sad but so true. Women especially back then weren't able to be independent so then they are still stuck in this vicious cycle of depending on someone who might be incompatible or abusive because they don't know how to do things they should have learned while becoming an adult. The loss of identity is so real. I heard about an old woman of 80 years old who was finally able to work for the first time in her life after her husband died because she has always wanted but he wouldnt let her and at that time if she didn't obey him she would be homeless and rejected by her family for "being difficult and rebellious".
Let's bring back the traditional values of men wearing high heels and fancy clothing.
dont forget the wigs!
And powdered wigs?
That's for rich people
but at least they looked men and it was not as women clothes at all
@@rebeccawhittington8979 each time has his own outfits for both men and women you can’t compare it to this time , in our time same men and women wear different clothes that feet them and their bodys both are different, tradition values men mean respectful who care for their family strong independent who care for their wife and have morals and standards not like this time fruity wear women clothes no morals and ignorant and not capable of family and sleep around just like you
"...and at the end of the day, we're all just monkeys with anxiety." That's so weirdly comforting, Ray, thank you for the sunshine 🌞
everytime i see these videos I think ''wasnt a woman the one who invented the wifi?'' like, why are you shitting on feminism when feminism literally says that women have the right to choose to be a house wife (spoiler, her husband took the credit of it :) )
Pakistani men will over the heels because many men here have a type for white women especially if they get to know a white woman who is tradwife they will literally be so happy. I know these mostly "White tradwives" will never marry a Pakistani man even if its a Pakistani Christian man 🤣😂😭.
And Bluetooth , and radioactivity...
And so much more
History has twisted truths and untold stories you know (of course there is probably a certain amount of truth to it but still)
@@subratanandy2142and genetics! Rosaline Frankin was the woman who discovered the molecular structure of DNA but Watson and Creek not only took credit for it, but they also bullied her and didn’t mention her at all when they won the Noble Prize.
Im hoping this guy blows up. This is actually really nice content and at first i thought you were some big youtuber but who knew lol.
haha thanks for the support! I'll keep em comin
I love the fact that he pays homage to the youtubers that have motivated him to make videos on these topics. He is one of the only men that I have come across that make videos like these. It feels like the same old topic I am already familiar about but feels refreshing because it's coming from a man's perspective too.
As a guy who can cook wears oversized clothes gardens reads romance manga and plays Pokémon does that make me a tradfemboy
No, it makes you a traditional WIFE , look 3:15 ... (Its a joke)
Hello, Catholic here, and I find your vids very funny, but I think a lot of people would misunderstand the bible verse you mentioned (Ephesians 6:5) and may take it out of context and give us Christians a bad rep, so here's a summarized explanation of that bible verse:
Ephesians was written by St. Paul, and during his time, slavery is still common in pagan Rome where Christianity is still illegal and can automatically mean a death sentence to anyone who converted to it. Christianity at that time was also considered as a "slave religion" by the rich/upper-class Romans since it was appealing to the low-class aka to a lot of slaves.
In that bible verse, St. Paul wasn't endorsing slavery in any way, but rather he was trying to say to not let slaves resort to violence against their masters because an uprising would have risked the persecution and death of a lot of Christians and of the whole Church if the Roman authorities became aware of it. St. Paul couldn't tell them to rebe against their masters or even revile them because even that would give them the death penalty.
Yes, St. Paul and the other apostles were against slavery, but they also knew that it was better to conquer evil with good than to commit anything bad. Also, during those days, loyalty to a master was a common way for slaves to be free from one's master in order to obtain manumission.
So yeah. Hope this clears anything up if anyone is curious about bible verse. ✌️
Great to have this additional context! Thank you!
Hey Ray. This is wrong, this is a revisionist attitude. If St. Paul wanted to condemn slavery and the masters of slaves, he would have, because God was speaking through him. St. Paul had all the Christian authority of the world at the time, as well as God behind him. Instead, he did not condemn slavery, but condone it.
I'm glad someone else put this here, I thought about clarifying it, myself. It's also worth remembering the passages that follow Ephesians 6:5, where St Paul reminds masters who are Christians to treat their slaves well. This was a time where slavery was unfortunately second nature in the system and the Lord was bringing about change but it had to start with the hearts of the members, first, especially during times of persecution and political unease. St Paul says to slave-owners to remember that they are "slaves" in the grand understanding that God's authority trumps all, so with their form of power they ought to remember that He is watching their behaviours and treatments of their slaves. Also there's the whole letter to Philemon in which St Paul does subvert the master-slave dynamic.
God bless!
"At the end of the day, we're just monkeys with anxiety." PREACH.
Also, you might like the book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck." It's a super realistic take on accepting the F'd up state of the world without letting it make you miserable or drive you crazy. The author is entertaining and hilarious, and if you like Chad Chad or FunkyFrogBait, you'll like the writing style.
Nice editing, nice commentary, and some very nice humor! Loved this video man
thank you my dude 🤝🤝 i'll keep em coming
As a woman you need to have financial Independence ASAP for as long as you are alive.
These trad men will replace you with a younger woman.
The Ephesians 6:5 original translation says servants, not slaves, and yes there is a difference. The King James Version is DIRECTLY translated from Greek which is what most of the New Testament was originally written in. And before anyone says it could be the same word in Greek , it’s not. “ypirétis” is the Greek word for servant while “doúlos” is the word for slave.
Thank you for commenting this. Sadly, a lot of people jump right on the bandwagon or choose not to research verses like these.
Just curious: if someone buys a Bible and it says "slaves" in that passage, whose fault is it exactly?
@@vanbeet5105 it’s just the translation. There are words in some languages that others don’t have for more specific things
@rhetwalker9233 Aah, right...a translation error in God's perfect innerrant word....nothing suspicious at all here.
You know, I read somewhere that the idea that Mary was a virgin came from a mistranslation of an Aramaic word....2 billion people now believe it to be true 🤷♂️
@@vanbeet5105 I didn’t say translation error. Some languages have words for more specific things such and as I said before, the King James Version is the most accurate of all the translations. So considering “errors” weren’t even mentioned, your argument holds no value.
Most of these women don't want to "work" - which leads me to believe that they never had a household to take care of in the first place. Like, I don't have kids and live with m parents, but there is always so much to do and clean (we are also honestly very messy :D) that thinking of only doing that is the most depressing view of life.
Women have always worked. It is our definition of "work" that has changed. But giving that most people lived somewhat rural and had also animals, fields, gardens (and kids!) to also take care of is a buttload to do - and in most families, this was done by all the members of the family! People lived self-sufficient for the most part and coming from someone who nearly lives like that - it's a lot of work that can't be dealt with alone!
i love that u said chad chad is ur favorite bc i can definitely see her influence in your videos. it’s like a philosophy mentor/pupil succession story
As someone who comes from a family of women who had traditional marriages, this tradwife nonsense is an insulting caricature of the lifestyle. It is legit hard work to take on all the domestic and parenting duties of a household and family; it's not just prancing around in dresses and baking cookies. SMH
Okay. As much as I can't stand incel lingo propagating any further into the mainstream than it already has ... "Chadwives" would be dope af, and I'm actually really sad that's not a thing.
Honestly, you’re definitely one of the funniest “video essay” (not sure what to call it) TH-camrs, like ever. You make it way more interesting than anyone else has! (Im still waiting for you to hit 100k)
this was the most perfectly stated I've heard anyone on this topic. And ngl I didn't expect that from a man but hey shoutout men who GET this stuff, it's so encouraging.
Ray: Let's give a big big congratulations to Jimmy for graduating.
My 3yr old: *Looks at my phone and gives me a hi five*
As a conservative woman, I love this content. Subscribed!
I just found out your channel and your videos are so well done! Hope one of them blows up :)
thank you my dude :)
If a woman wants to be a 'traditional' wife, for whatever definition of 'traditional, then i guess we're all ok with that.
But all the traditional wives i know manage the finances in the house, help their husbands with home maintenance, teach their children advanced subjects, somehow start a business at home for homemade crafts or food while also cooking in the kitchen for the family.
So this trend is not my definition of a traditional wife and i don't think i have strength, skill or determination to be one. I think I'm ok being an average working wife...
EXACTLY. This trend is ONLY for people who just want to do nothing except bake bread and upload videos 😂
This trend is for upper class women and sugar babies who'll never need to raise a finger to do anything labour intensive in their entire lives.
They don't know the work that goes into child care because majority of them DON'T have kids and if they do have kids, they have nannies or someone to help clean around the house and expensive home appliances to make the work load easier
Look at Pearl, no man, no kids, can barely take care of herself and her entire purpose is being a rodeo clown in red pill circuses
Ur literally makin top tier content bruh keep it up bud
Ma dude - it is so refreshing to see 24&18 as the fucking weird thing it is. I had a - now Ex - friend, who started going out with a 16 year old when he was almost 25. And he saw now problem with it. Bc. it is legal - as if this is the only concern.
Bro, if you have to look up if it is legal, to """calm""" your friends - it is probably morally wrong.
Austria, man.
Bro ive watched all your videos, you deserve more subscribers. 😭keep up the good work.
Fr he’s doing great
Even though I got the joke, I was mad disappointed over not seeing a video about the Chad Wives 😂😂
dude ur now in my fav youtubers list with chad chad and kurtis conner 💯
My wife actually wants to be a housewife, and I’m ok with it. She never wanted a corporate job where she would make 20 cents to my dollar (gender pay gap). She has her own money saved up from when she was working and now gets to pursue her passions writing, gardening, painting, and music. We share housework so it’s not a 1950s kinda arrangement. The most important thing is being able to choose. Obviously this kind of lifestyle requires money.
Yea but what about it you seperate or something happens to you. There should be a prenup
5:32 So she gave up her 20s to take of her husband and the kids she had when she was a teen? That sounds depressing af to be completely honest.
Have to subscribe, your channel is so underrated but vids are so well done! Can't wait for more content! :)
thank you for the support :) I'll keep em coming
only *one* spouse having a job in THIS economy? yea ok
It's doable! My wife and I have been living this way for 16 years (13 with a kid) and we're far from rich. But it depends on things like where you live, if the husband works full-time, how often the wife cooks (seriously, you can save a ton of money as opposed to ordering out) and your other expenses.
@Vic2point0 yeah buddy i call bullshit.
What do you do for a living?
do you just assume most people eat out? In this economy?
@@jasonedenburg9427 I work customer service and like I said, we're nowhere near being rich. And yeah, lots of people still order out or at very least buy more expensive foods/drinks at the store on the regular. A more traditional way of life is both 100% possible and 100% recommended.
There’s something so entertaining to me about anyone, male or female, saying “our daughters don’t need a degree, they need to learn how to cook.” Like… is someone going to tell them that a college education and cooking skills aren’t mutually exclusive? It’s like they think women are so stupid that we couldn’t possibly learn to do more than one thing. What a silly thing to believe.
Me, the wife who's the "breadwinner": Makes bread 🤑
Also me with a bread machine: Makes bread 🍞
Is this a bad idea? Enormously. Thank you for covering this topic.
To me the most ironic part is this; housewives in the 50’s were in women’s clubs, organizing constant charity functions, organizing politically, peopling the PTA, and they were a huge force for good that we still haven’t replaced with any other social group. They built hospitals and schools - y’all remember the last time you saw a hospital or university built?
I guess I'm just going to binge-watch your videos 😂
I hope it helps the algorithm!!
These people don’t exist in real life. Let’s make that clear. My mother is a “traditional wife” and do you think she’s skipping around in a long dress while pregnant constantly? No, she’s trying to raise her children to be decent, to keep her husband in line, and live her life. Is my mother a slave? Heck no, does she make her husband do the dishes when she’s tired? Yes, does she have backup money and a job if she and my dad ever divorce? Duh.
I grew up fundamentalist Southern Baptist and the tradwife content makes me physically ill. 🥴 Oh how we were brainshwashed to believe the only way to be a woman of beautiful character was to be subservient to the husband because he is basically God while God's not around. 😢 So gross. It sets the stage for so much abuse.
The text at 3:03 could just as easily read "Feminism is about embracing our roles and choices without Judgement..." etc. and it would make just as much, if not much more sense!
If i was not subscribed already, I would have for that intro lol
Found your channel, a couple weeks ago. Love your content, keep up the good work !
“This is a thing I call ‘grooming’!” I BURST OUT LAUGHING SO HARD THAT MY BROTHER THOUGHT I WAS HAVIJG A SEIZURE
You know what pisses me off most about this... i became a young stay at home mom and wife and it didnt once cross my mind to start this trend and make millions off it 😂
I love how this man discreetly fangirls over ChadChad in the middle of videos.
As someone who sews, cooks, bakes AND has a career, I can confirm that it’s possible to like and do all those things and enjoy all of them! Don’t let anyone put you in a box, or tell you what’s not possible. Find a man who will support and encourage you, not put you down or feel smaller when you do well. That’s a healthy relationship, and that’s a real man who supports his family.
Maybe the whole trad wife concept evolved as an extreme answer to women and men shaming women who chose to stay at home as caregivers, mothers or housewives many times sacrificing their careers.
Wait when did women stop working industrial jobs, I barely ever see them now. (Inspectors don’t count imo)
Once the war ended, a huge portion of women in the workforce were let go by their managers to give jobs to the men coming back from overseas.
@@RayLikeSunshine Makes sense to me
I'm a homemaker and a homesteader. Non religious, and got a back up plan if something were to happen to my husband. This is a life style that shouldn't be idolized, it is not a trend. It is hard work and these young people putting their "fate" into "god" if something were to happen are not thinking logically. Everyone should have a back up plan, just in case. You never know what will happen.
First, love your content & the perspectives you bring to topics. I just want to offer some historical context on the verse if you're interested. Second slavery was very different in ancient culture, as much as 1\3 of the Ancient world were slaves at one point & there were a lot of ways to be released often within 10 years (with the exception of some criminals & captives). Third Christianity spread quickly also to people who were slaves but they had no context for who God was or what that meant in their lives. Different groups *of the time* are mentioned in that chapter & match up with idea "bless your enemy & do good to those who harm & despise you". God knew people weren't just going to stop selling slaves but the current slaves AND MASTERS who believed could certainly change their choices. God encourages masters not just treat to slaves like an employee but one of the family because they are brothers in Christ, equals before God.
CHAD CHAD MENTIONED 🦅🦅🦅
Great video. Thanks for addressing this troubling trend. It is indeed dangerous. Subscribed! 😊
Finally a sensible video on this matter.
I work with a guy who thinks like this, like homie, you can’t afford to be the only one making money and wanting kids 😂
It seems like making any type of lifestyle or religious belief your "identity" is just a bad way to go
Rich of you to think I have even used my oven, I'll take it.
CHAD CHAD MENTIONEDDDDDD!!!!!!!! I'm subscribing now
Unless they post pics of cleaning baby doodoo I call shenanigans.
“At the end of the day, we’re just all monkeys with anxiety” 😂
Hey! How are you dealing with your adhd?
barely :,)
@@RayLikeSunshine✨same✨
IMO, homemaking and influencers should never be combined. The issue with these kinds of videos is that they portray homemaking as a quaint, simple, idealistic lifestyle, which it usually isn't. Influencers make a career making everything seem desirable, and that applies to tradwives too. But instead of promoting a tacky product, tradwives promote sugarcoated gender roles that are dangerous to women, because that's how they make money. And while these roles aren't necessarily harmful on their own, the way influencers spread them is concerning.
Obviously, there's the whole thing with gender roles and submission, which is a slippery slope into abuse. But that's still ok if its consenual. What's concerning is how tradwives make these roles so appealing. Influencers know how to make something look better than it is. By spreading the idea that women should be housewives, they make these jobs seem easy and appealing. When in reality, even fully consensual and balanced homemaking is still an extremely difficult 24 hour job. These idolized videos which intentionally lean into conservative gender riles push young women to take on roles and responsibilities they're not prepared for instead of finding financial stability or pursuing their dreams. So even if someone fully enjoys a stable tradwife life style, it's really not something that should be plastered all over the internet, let alone pushed onto lther people.
Chad Chad hit this man up he got you in his jokes and everything
"Their content usually involves them telling you to submit to your husband and how it's bad for you to get a degree and a job."
This is also misrepresenting them quite a bit. They're not telling people what to do, as much as giving instructions to those who seek out their channels (and therefore presumably want to learn how to be tradwives as well). Nothing wrong with that at all. We all "tell each other what to do" in these ways.
Now, the "submit" thing comes from the bible. My wife of 16 years is a Christian whereas I'm an atheist, so she actually believes in that more than I do, but even that stands to reason. Career women are willing to submit to their bosses who are usually men, so it's not necessarily worse to submit to a husband instead.
The odds of you getting a degree that will actually be worth your money, time, and effort are increasingly small. Whereas if you put that money, time, and effort more directly into being a good spouse and parent, you're far more likely to see that "pay off" in ways you're more likely to value in the future. In any case, everyone is free to make their own decisions. But it's important to keep in mind that there are no 100% risk-free decisions and everything will have a price.
Employees do not submit to their bosses, they actively despise them and wish for them to die a painful death. I don't think any loving wife would wish that upon their husband. + I think submission and following orders to get corporate work done are different things altogether.
I think it's great that you and your wife have had such a great marriage and I hope your bliss continues for the years to come. True, every decision has a risk. But while I'm against people shaming people for living the traditional lifestyle, I'm also against the many fundamentalists who downright degrade women ( and men ) for wanting to have both a successful career and a beautiful family.
Perhaps, my perspective is so because I grew up in a country where women actively pursue higher education and careers while having happy families ( it takes sacrifice, but is perfectly doable and degrees are VERY valuable.).
But you seem to be a reasonable person, so I'd like to ask you something,
a statement that I have found to be quintessential to such 'traditional' influencers is - 'men gain value with education, women lose value with education.' Do you support that? Because that is not what our scriptures tell us.
@@breadoftruthandwisdom "Employees do not submit to their bosses,"
Of course they do. Submitting to someone is just doing what they ask or tell you to do. It's literally the job description of every employee to submit to their employer.
"they actively despise them and wish for them to die a painful death."
Well I would certainly hope that's not the average employee! But even if it were, that doesn't mean they aren't submitting to their bosses in order to get paid.
"I don't think any loving wife would wish that upon their husband."
Naturally.
"I think submission and following orders to get corporate work done are different things altogether."
Well with all due respect, they're not. Following orders from your boss is just one of many kinds of submission.
"I think it's great that you and your wife have had such a great marriage and I hope your bliss continues for the years to come."
I appreciate that! But ironically, the reason there is this "bliss" in our marriage is precisely that we downplay the importance of that feeling, and emphasize the importance of each of us doing what we should do. A lot of failed marriages are the result of letting feelings lead the people involved rather than any given principles.
"True, every decision has a risk. But while I'm against people shaming people for living the traditional lifestyle, I'm also against the many fundamentalists who downright degrade women ( and men ) for wanting to have both a successful career and a beautiful family."
Well I don't think we should *degrade* anyone over that, but I do believe in reminding people that oftentimes what makes a successful family is going to run contrary with what makes two successful careers (which usually requires full-time work plus additional study/honing of skills and networking). This is especially true in the U.S. these days, in light of what government schools have been trying to get away with lately.
"a statement that I have found to be quintessential to such 'traditional' influencers is - 'men gain value with education, women lose value with education.' Do you support that?"
It would depend on the context. If we're talking about government-approved "higher" education you get in many universities, and if they mean that women *tend* to become less valuable in the *dating* marketplace when they become more educated, I think that's very likely true. Partly because they fill your head with a lot of woke nonsense while (hopefully) teaching you the skills you'll actually need to do the job you're trying to learn. Men are less agreeable than women, which translates into them filtering out more of the BS. They're also more inclined to seek out more technical jobs where they're not as likely to hear woke propaganda.
But the more prevalent issue in the context of dating is that women tend to become less feminine (agreeable, kind/gentle, nurturing) as they go through college and especially the early stages of their careers. They also get older which gradually makes them less attractive and fertile.
"Because that is not what our scriptures tell us."
Are you talking about the Christian bible? If so, which verse do you have in mind? Because I would agree that people don't lose value like that in terms of their worth as a human being. The homeless man on the sidewalk has just as much intrinsic value as the billionaire, in that context.
@@Vic2point0 I am not Christian. Our scriptures tell us to strive to become 'scholarly' (for women) and 'efficient in the face of war' ( for men). It also encourages women who study consultation of war and men to study scriptures and hymns.
Now, you suggest that following orders for corporate purposes is a form of submission. Okay, I'll take it. How do I think it is different from taking orders from a husband, strictly as per these videos?
Your thoughts will be taken into counsel. I've had some Christian men and women explain that that is also how it works in case of spiritual submission, but I've seen way too many people say "I let my husband tell me what to think." That's not a good sign, usually.
If spiritual submission is about, I don't know, making the food your spouse desires or decorating a room a certain way, or changing a small part of your lifestyle to better suit your family's needs, that's completely normal and very essential for families. But that whole "I don't have my own thoughts" narrative, is concerning. You can probably get videos if you search for them on YT. I have never used TikTok so I don't know about that.
You mention, 'woke nonsense'. Gender studies, liberal arts are not even considered PhD subjects in many countries. I was mainly referring to the Sciences, but that's my bad, I should have made myself more specific.
Here's my dilemma, why is it that a woman who wishes to pursue higher education must make a choice between that and family? Especially when it's possible to manage both?
I know biological differences and reproductive reality, but why must it always be 'Oh this woman wants to get a PhD in Civil? No more marriage for her'. If two people can properly plan and be supportive, they can have kids early, raise them together, chase their goals and have a happy family.
I'm confident in saying this because I've seen many, MANY people do this. We value true education. We value masculinity and feminity, but in no way is education ( and I mean true philosophy, theology, medicine, sciences, geography, astronomy, etc.) a compromise for that.
Hence why this statement of 'losing value with education' confusing to me. My sisters have PhD in Science subjects, they're working for renowned companies, but they love their husbands and parents, love their children, spend time with family, perform spiritual rituals for the family, cook for us ( we help) and are textbook women ( intelligent, nurturing, strict, patient, always ready to teach)
I don't understand how women get nastier as they get more experienced with their jobs, I've never seen it happen.
My sisters had kids in their mid-20's and our entire family pitched in to raise those kids with immense love. Even us teens would go to their place to study and clean up so that we could help.
I do not wish to argue with you, I'm just trying to understand your point of view, and unfortunately, miserably failing. But then again, as per my virtue, I will appreciate you for taking the time to answer thoroughly.
@@breadoftruthandwisdom "I am not Christian. Our scriptures tell us to strive to become 'scholarly' (for women) and 'efficient in the face of war' ( for men)."
Well I still think that's consistent with everything I've said so far. And that could be as simple as educating *yourself* with reliable sources, should it ever become the case that all of the official (government-approved) universities and colleges began teaching nothing but nonsense.
"Now, you suggest that following orders for corporate purposes is a form of submission."
It's just a fact that to submit is to do what someone asks of you or orders you to do. So of course doing what you're told/asked by an employer is submitting to them.
"How do I think it is different from taking orders from a husband, strictly as per these videos?"
Did you mean to ask how *I* think it's different? Because for starters, your husband should actually care about you outside of work. The traditional husband provides for and protects the wife, which would mean making sure she's healthy (physically and mentally). The employer is under no such obligation and quite often makes it clear they don't really care about you - they just want you to keep doing your specific job.
"but I've seen way too many people say "I let my husband tell me what to think." That's not a good sign, usually."
I've never seen that said in a way that wasn't joking. But if it's concerning *everything,* that is not being traditional. Your wife should know more (way more) about cooking and taking care of the home, and probably considerably more about the daily needs of a small child, than you do. So fairly often when the husband is home, he might let the *wife* "tell him what to think" concerning everyday decisions. Apart from that, if there's a topic the wife just plain isn't interested in (e.g., politics), but the husband has proven himself reliable and trustworthy, she might defer to him on that.
"If spiritual submission is about, I don't know, making the food your spouse desires or decorating a room a certain way, or changing a small part of your lifestyle to better suit your family's needs, that's completely normal and very essential for families. But that whole "I don't have my own thoughts" narrative, is concerning."
Agreed.
"You mention, 'woke nonsense'. Gender studies, liberal arts are not even considered PhD subjects in many countries. I was mainly referring to the Sciences, but that's my bad, I should have made myself more specific."
Well me too. In the U.S., you don't have to sign up for gender studies to be told "There are more than two genders" or that transgenderism is a valid worldview. Same for topics like racism, sexism, climate change, etc. Universities in America tend to expect you to fall in line with the left or at least pretend to whenever the subjects come up. Also, regarding the sciences, the so-called "hard" sciences are usually pursued by men, while the "soft" or social sciences are preferred by women. The latter's going to touch on these subjects more often than the former.
"Here's my dilemma, why is it that a woman who wishes to pursue higher education must make a choice between that and family? Especially when it's possible to manage both? "
I wouldn't say "must", and you're quite right that it's *possible* to manage both, at least for a fair number of people. But you have to think in terms of probabilities as well. The U.S. in general does not have the work ethic it used to, and Americans struggle with addiction of all kinds. These are just some of the reasons why it's unlikely a woman will be able to be successful in her career as well as raise well-rounded, happy and healthy children here in the states. So as bizarre as it might sound to you in whatever country you live in, it seems to be the case that many Americans will have to choose between.
And a lot of modern women in the U.S. know this deep down, which is why it's common for them to say things like "I'm putting off getting married and having kids until I've gotten my career started/I'm successful, etc." But many of them don't realize how it will affect their chances of finding a quality man until it's too late.
"I know biological differences and reproductive reality, but why must it always be 'Oh this woman wants to get a PhD in Civil? No more marriage for her'. If two people can properly plan and be supportive, they can have kids early, raise them together, chase their goals and have a happy family."
I don't think anyone is *deciding* that; they're just discovering that's how it typically plays out. And again, it's not that people *can't* do all that. I mean, it's physically possible to do extraordinary things. It's just not very likely, for the reasons we've discussed and more.
"I'm confident in saying this because I've seen many, MANY people do this. We value true education. We value masculinity and feminity, but in no way is education ( and I mean true philosophy, theology, medicine, sciences, geography, astronomy, etc.) a compromise for that."
I think you're right about education in general. My wife is very traditional and also very educated, but she has practically no college education. But to be educated by the current establishment (at least in America) is risky, and to pursue many of the careers modern women go for now will demand more than just a ton of your time and energy; it will require you to be more masculine (assertive if not aggressive, competitive, disagreeable, less sensitive) in your behavior. That will impact a woman's "value" in the dating marketplace and potentially any relationship she gets into.
"Hence why this statement of 'losing value with education' confusing to me. My sisters have PhD in Science subjects, they're working for renowned companies, but they love their husbands and parents, love their children, spend time with family, perform spiritual rituals for the family, cook for us ( we help) and are textbook women."
That's awesome. Based on my experience, that's very rare. Again, could very easily be a cultural difference though, or you might just have an exceptional family.
"My sisters had kids in their mid-20's and our entire family pitched in to raise those kids with immense love."
Having families that actually stick together is a huge factor. But modern America is the product of a welfare state, in which mothers were and are incentivized to divorce or at least live separately from fathers. So lots of people grew up without fathers in the home, whether their moms considered themselves feminists or not.
COLLAB WITH CHAD CHAD PLS
This is actually mindblowing cause...this is the first time im watching this chanel, im on a third video, and today is the first day in my life i decided to make bread 😂 its in the oven as im watching this 😂
im not a trad wife tho. just a hungry cat lady
Aw how wholesome 😂❤
I love you video!!!! Your point of view is really interting
This made my day ✨
I'm convinced that some of them already have had their trad-husband pass away (or run off with the trad-secretary or possibly never exist in the first place). And their plan for dealing with it is working out great. Limit the "husband's" camera time, use stock photos or AI generated, and hire a voice actor if necessary. That way they can keep that sweet influencer moolah rolling in.
Guy chad chad?
this guy gets it
when you changed the background and the voice 😂😂😂😂 that was scary....
Also if you change the background on these saying they'd be interpreted as good BDSM memes
That is indeed the most disturbing part. There is a *strong* undercurrent of perversion in "trad" culture. Just look at how women are treated and violated in the societies where feminism has had the least impact so far. This whole "trad" thing is a breeding ground for predators. Just like p3d0s seek out "mommy vloggers" 🤮 when they can't access CP, predators will seek out environments where they can have the most power over their intended victims and get away with their ab*se the most easily, i.e., "traditional" settings.
i mean this in the best way possible: ure the male version of chad chad
In the last 2 minutes , dude stole my heart . Respect boi 😎❤.
P.s. Maybe it was last 3 minutes , i am bad at math 🤔
P.s. i think i don't even know how to use "p.s."🤔
4:15 brotha ewww
You and Chad Chad shoukd collab, I'd watch on repeat