I got my 165hz monitor on Amazon over a year ago for $130 Canadian not on sale, so less than or around $100USD...and now I can hang with some of the worlds best Quake players. It was one of the best PC gaming purchases I have ever made. I went from being competent at Quake, to being top player on my team 9 games outta 10 and it is only Quake vets left playing. It is the biggest hardware related imrpovement ever. A good mouse and high hz monitor are essential. After over a year of use...zero complaints. If anyone wants the model and brand, I can get it, just escaping me at the moment. It came with a nice DP cable though.
I recently purchased one of their monitors and it's my first ever high refresh rate monitor. It's the 32 in 2k 170Hz monitor. I've liked it enough I'm planning on getting a second one for my set up.
How is the color gamut and picture clarity? Have you noticed any flickering at high refresh rates? I recently got a KTC monitor as well but i went with the 27in 1440p IPS monitor at 170hz (w/display port) or 144hz (w/ hdmi). Ive been happy with it so far. I planned to use it in a dual monitor setup along with my old 27in Samsung 4k monitor that only does 60hz. I wanted something with a higher refresh rate for gaming so I figured I'd use the KTC when gaming and the Samsung for movies/streaming and both for when I'm web surfing, multitasking, ect.. Although i am super tempted to get either the 32in monitor or another 27in but with the 240hz refresh rate that i missed out on whenever the next prime day deals come around.
For anyone looking at this my H25T7 does work at 180hz VRR over HDMI. I did not test with the cable that came with it. I just hooked up an ultra high speed hdmi cable I already had and it did work. Set VRR to on in AMD adrenaline, went to Windows settings and changed hz to 180. I tested PUBG and no issues and that game was varying down to 92 FPS and as much as 200. I did not limit the FPS. I did also hook up a Series X and it showed VRR was enables on both the console and monitor. Fortnite also had some dips to 90s on there. But almost always stuck near 120. No noticeable issues. Seemed to work fine. That is the extent of my testing. Though it certainly was working for me. PUBG without VRR is a nightmare for me.
Got this after watching this and going back and forth on another. At the time Amazon had it for $109 but had enough off between a coupon and % discount that it was $82 before tax. Very impressed with this and would have been a solid deal at a higher price. Might grab another and use that last port on my GPU.
60fps gaming not dead at all, considering you need a budget 300 dollar GPU to run recent titles. Though even just browsing desktop becomes much better with high refresh rate. 1440p144hz is what I call perfect though.
i very much appreciate this review. the color accuracy test is super important to me, knowing the srgb is even better than the monitor i have now great to know. However, something i would like to see verified is the contrast ratio. I’m hoping that it’s at least feasible to me compared to my current monitors, because that is the most important thing i consider when gaming. I love the review though, thank you!
DAMN that's a good price. I remember when high refresh LCDs *even on the high end* were a massive tradeoff because the TN panels were complete garbage for anything but providing a smooth crosshair.
Here because Amazon sent me the wrong monitor. Was getting the Ktc h24t09p, they sent this one instead for some reason. I'll happily accept the upgrade, 180htz is usually better than 165htz. Would have liked if they had refunded the difference though, ended up paying $130usd over the less than a hundred
I’m with you on the HDMI being included over DP. Realistically people will have an extra HDMI laying around. Unless you’re actively in PC gaming you probably won’t have a DP cable ready to go.
Hi, thanks for the review. What are your recommended color settings after testing the monitor with those 2 colorimeters? I have tried looking for ICC profiles for this monitor but could not find anything.
The day before this video, I had a 27" monitor literally fizzzzz out as I was using it. Saw this video and decided not to purchase the replacement one I was debating ordering, at about $500 Cdn. I said to myself - why not give your recommendation a try. Amazon got the KTC here next day and WOW! I couldn't be happier, as the monitor is functioning perfectly (Yes, I ordered the other cable too) and I saved some hard earned money! Many thanks to Craft Computing.
Is it true what they say in the video about Amd Freesync only working with Displayport and not with HDMI on this monitor? I find that strange. And how is the Ghosting when playing? Is it noticeable?
@@JACKjcs I would like to know this as well. I have this monitor. On DP I get 180hz and no ghosting that I can see. I have other monitors that had minor ghosting and I notice it. Have been pleased with this. If nobody that get this puts a response here I will try and test this out in a few days. I would hook my last remaining Series X but it is going in for warranty repair due to constantly changing to green tinted screen.
@@GuerreroUltimo It's good to know that Ghosting is not noticeable. I'm interested to know what results you get with your tests, if you don't forget, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me how it went. As for Freesync, I think it can only be activated on PC? I don't have consoles so I have no idea if this is possible on them. In any case, thanks for answering.
@@JACKjcs So, here is what I did. First, I hooked up my Series X. It shows support for VRR with the Ultra High Speed HDMI 2.1 cable I used. It was not the one that came in the box. Sorry, I misplaced that one. I played Fortnite and turned on the counter. This showed that that game did vary down to as much as 92 fps for me. But mostly stuck at 120. Not issues, ghosting, tearing, or anything. So, i hooked that HDMI to my PC. I went into the AMD Adrenaline and it allowed VRR to be turned on. Was showing 1080p/60. I go into windows and set it to 180hz. Both Windows and the monitor are showing 180hz. I then jumped into some PUBG as that game seems to vary a lot on FPS. It would go anywhere from 90 up to about 200. Mostly sticking to around 160 range. Not only was there no issues the VRR certainly was working. It would be noticeable. I turned off VRR and you could see the difference. So, at least for my unit, I can confirm VRR works on HDMI.
@@GuerreroUltimo The terminology is a bit confusing but from what I've read, Freesync is just another form of VRR so technically they do the same thing, apparently (according to some posts on reddit and some comparisons on TH-cam) the name changes depending on the cable (Hdmi or DP), but little else. Thank you very much for the detailed explanation, I was worried that Hdmi would disable this feature but you confirmed that it works without problems.
The KTC H24T09P is 24" and 165hz The extra 0.5" from this H25T7 affect the sharpen quality of the image? There're a lot of reviews praising the H24T09P What do you think, H25T7 is better? They are at the same price.
its not a big difference its so small you might not even notice it well i am using 60hz but thats whazt i personally believe lol but even so 180hz good :)
@@CraftComputing I didn't see the coupon the first time I looked, but I looked again. As of right now - at least for me - it's $109.99 and a $10 coupon. Still a great deal, and I seriously doubt anyone will change their mind on this because of $5. 🤣
So I got this monitor and it arrived today, I enabled FreeSync on the monitors options but in AMD Adrenaline keeps showing up as Adaptatuve Sync (yes I am using a DP cable), is that intended or a bug? Thanks for the review, it would be awesome to get your ICC profile from the calibration! Liked and subbed!
It would have been nice if the tests had been more technical and shown the results, the price of this monitor is too tempting. If someone can confirm that Freesync only works on Displayport and not on HDMI, I would appreciate it since everywhere they promote this monitor with its 180hz on HDMI and DP so Freesync should work on both, unless in the video they refer to Freesync PREMIUM and not the normal one, which is not specified.
I'm answering myself in case anyone else has the same question. Someone in a message above already confirmed that VRR (the same as Freesync) works without problems on HDMI cables, when using a Displayport cable the name will probably change from VRR to Freesync (or the other way around) in the menu of the GPU you're using because it depends on the cable (and the screen) but both options will do the same thing so there's no problem with what you use. There are plenty of comparisons here on TH-cam if you want to clear up any doubts.
Oh man… SOO SOO soooooooo tempted to snag this for console gaming. The fact an IPS panel at ANY refresh rate over 60Hz is this cheap blows my mind. Such a great time to be alive.
go to settings find the display option put 120hz on it will still show 60 fps because your in the menu but when you get into a game it will be enabled sometimes you have to manually enable 120hz in the game your playing
Hey man, I'm glad your doing a review on this specific monitor. I recently bought this monitor and am currently use this it for my PlayStation 4 and for some odd reason the colors appear off. When I play games like Outlast, I notice that dark areas in the game appear to have a sort of black mixed in with red hue to it, and it kind of looks bothering. Even after calibration I couldn't get the color to appear a regular black. I'm preparing to buy a different monitor soon but I would like to hear if you have any input on resolving this issue? I hear no one else talking about this, I don't know if it's because I'm used to a different color scheme, or if these colors are actually true, but some input would be nice.
Most laptops only have HDMI BTW. TBH maybe they should just add the option to choose your cable with your order, or raise the price a little bit and include both cables.
Too bad most higher end LCD manufacturers no longer produce 30" 21:9 1080p IPS 144-200Hz panels. Thus the lower segment monitor OEM's, like KTC, only have limited panel types to choices from, to create new monitor products with. Ever since the LCD manufacturers started pushing higher resolution panels several years ago, increasing the need for more powerful GPU's, the lower res 30" 21:9 ultrawide panels with good specs have all but vanished from monitor OEM product catalogues. Except from the products using low quality VA panels. Which IMO is a shame, since I believe a good 30" 21:9 1080p IPS 144-200Hz panel is worth while for budget orientated buidls that do not want or cannot invest in 1440p ultrawide.
I own one of KTCs older mini led screens which is an OEM version of a Coolermaster monitor that came out not that long ago. I have had it for a year now and its been stellar. It gets painfully bright (i run mine at 80% brightness i think) and has hdr1000. It does have display wake bugs right now but i cannot tell whether that is the display or my minisforum ms01 + rx 6400 being funky.
I honestly wouldn't mind if more "premium" monitors lowered actual prices and didn't include cables, allowing consumers to use that money to buy the lengths and types they actually want/need, as long as it's clearly stated on boxes and pages; I know that's an issue I run into myself with all these stock cables that don't fit my setups. That said, I know Big "Whoever" might make that move and claim savings / less e-waste without actually lowering costs.
Orrrrr.....pay $15 more for the H24T27 for QHD resolution + 100hz refresh? Totally considering buying two of those -- one belonging for work (will get reimbursed! 👍) and one as a secondary personal monitor at home.
Please benchmark all those old enterprise GPU's you bought for basic AI performance. I'm sure Reddit will help you come up with basic info benchmarks. That's the new hotness for homelabs.
Vast majority of games doesn't even benefit from anything above 60HZ, all animations are tied to whatever the cycle speed is of the game. Its a complete waste of money.
I got my 165hz monitor on Amazon over a year ago for $130 Canadian not on sale, so less than or around $100USD...and now I can hang with some of the worlds best Quake players. It was one of the best PC gaming purchases I have ever made. I went from being competent at Quake, to being top player on my team 9 games outta 10 and it is only Quake vets left playing. It is the biggest hardware related imrpovement ever. A good mouse and high hz monitor are essential. After over a year of use...zero complaints. If anyone wants the model and brand, I can get it, just escaping me at the moment. It came with a nice DP cable though.
Did you go from a VA panel to an ips? Is the difference worth buying?
I accidentally clicked the notification just as it popped up so here we are at 9s post release
I recently purchased one of their monitors and it's my first ever high refresh rate monitor. It's the 32 in 2k 170Hz monitor. I've liked it enough I'm planning on getting a second one for my set up.
How is the color gamut and picture clarity? Have you noticed any flickering at high refresh rates?
I recently got a KTC monitor as well but i went with the 27in 1440p IPS monitor at 170hz (w/display port) or 144hz (w/ hdmi).
Ive been happy with it so far. I planned to use it in a dual monitor setup along with my old 27in Samsung 4k monitor that only does 60hz. I wanted something with a higher refresh rate for gaming so I figured I'd use the KTC when gaming and the Samsung for movies/streaming and both for when I'm web surfing, multitasking, ect..
Although i am super tempted to get either the 32in monitor or another 27in but with the 240hz refresh rate that i missed out on whenever the next prime day deals come around.
@@T.Lspitz color seem good. I'm not equipped to test it. No flickering or anything. Clarity is great.
@@CPurdiePlays are the black levels good ?
@opfax163 in my opinion I think so. And they are adjustable.
Thinking about buying this for my ps5 for fps games what u think
For anyone looking at this my H25T7 does work at 180hz VRR over HDMI. I did not test with the cable that came with it. I just hooked up an ultra high speed hdmi cable I already had and it did work. Set VRR to on in AMD adrenaline, went to Windows settings and changed hz to 180. I tested PUBG and no issues and that game was varying down to 92 FPS and as much as 200. I did not limit the FPS. I did also hook up a Series X and it showed VRR was enables on both the console and monitor. Fortnite also had some dips to 90s on there. But almost always stuck near 120. No noticeable issues. Seemed to work fine. That is the extent of my testing. Though it certainly was working for me. PUBG without VRR is a nightmare for me.
i just need to make sure so on the series x you can get 120fps with vrr on with this monitor
@@rickgrimesss598dose it?
Hey I wanted to ask does this monitor have custom crosshair with it
Got this after watching this and going back and forth on another. At the time Amazon had it for $109 but had enough off between a coupon and % discount that it was $82 before tax. Very impressed with this and would have been a solid deal at a higher price. Might grab another and use that last port on my GPU.
60 FPS gaming isn’t quite dead yet either, as modern games are unoptimized as fck.
Unoptimized =/= Undemanding
60fps gaming not dead at all, considering you need a budget 300 dollar GPU to run recent titles. Though even just browsing desktop becomes much better with high refresh rate. 1440p144hz is what I call perfect though.
Never thought we'd have staggering frame rates and stick drift by this era
60fps is dead cause consoles now play games at 30fps lol
i very much appreciate this review. the color accuracy test is super important to me, knowing the srgb is even better than the monitor i have now great to know. However, something i would like to see verified is the contrast ratio. I’m hoping that it’s at least feasible to me compared to my current monitors, because that is the most important thing i consider when gaming. I love the review though, thank you!
DAMN that's a good price. I remember when high refresh LCDs *even on the high end* were a massive tradeoff because the TN panels were complete garbage for anything but providing a smooth crosshair.
The beer at first glance reminded me of the Lizard King Verses the Cryo Pale Ale from Pipeworks in Chicago.
Another point in favor of putting a DP cable in the box by default? Most Modern consoles come WITH an HDMI cable and GPUs often do NOT.
Freesync only on displayport isn't enough?
they are at most $25 at walmart
Here because Amazon sent me the wrong monitor. Was getting the Ktc h24t09p, they sent this one instead for some reason. I'll happily accept the upgrade, 180htz is usually better than 165htz. Would have liked if they had refunded the difference though, ended up paying $130usd over the less than a hundred
Darn it, Jeff, you caused me to spend money again!!! 🤑
You knew what this was 😉
What length dp cable do they come with?
Did i miss it, did he state the input lag for the display?
I’m with you on the HDMI being included over DP. Realistically people will have an extra HDMI laying around. Unless you’re actively in PC gaming you probably won’t have a DP cable ready to go.
Does the monitor raise and have speakers? I play games too but I go lot of graphic design work. wanted to know how the colors are?
This one or H24T09P?
Hi, thanks for the review. What are your recommended color settings after testing the monitor with those 2 colorimeters? I have tried looking for ICC profiles for this monitor but could not find anything.
The day before this video, I had a 27" monitor literally fizzzzz out as I was using it. Saw this video and decided not to purchase the replacement one I was debating ordering, at about $500 Cdn. I said to myself - why not give your recommendation a try. Amazon got the KTC here next day and WOW! I couldn't be happier, as the monitor is functioning perfectly (Yes, I ordered the other cable too) and I saved some hard earned money! Many thanks to Craft Computing.
Freesync been fixed on newer model, mine works with hdmi 2.1
What newer model?
Bought this one after watching your review pretty good monitor no regrets except for the stand it sucks
Is it true what they say in the video about Amd Freesync only working with Displayport and not with HDMI on this monitor? I find that strange.
And how is the Ghosting when playing? Is it noticeable?
@@JACKjcs I would like to know this as well. I have this monitor. On DP I get 180hz and no ghosting that I can see. I have other monitors that had minor ghosting and I notice it. Have been pleased with this. If nobody that get this puts a response here I will try and test this out in a few days. I would hook my last remaining Series X but it is going in for warranty repair due to constantly changing to green tinted screen.
@@GuerreroUltimo It's good to know that Ghosting is not noticeable.
I'm interested to know what results you get with your tests, if you don't forget, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me how it went.
As for Freesync, I think it can only be activated on PC? I don't have consoles so I have no idea if this is possible on them.
In any case, thanks for answering.
@@JACKjcs So, here is what I did. First, I hooked up my Series X. It shows support for VRR with the Ultra High Speed HDMI 2.1 cable I used. It was not the one that came in the box. Sorry, I misplaced that one. I played Fortnite and turned on the counter. This showed that that game did vary down to as much as 92 fps for me. But mostly stuck at 120. Not issues, ghosting, tearing, or anything. So, i hooked that HDMI to my PC. I went into the AMD Adrenaline and it allowed VRR to be turned on. Was showing 1080p/60. I go into windows and set it to 180hz. Both Windows and the monitor are showing 180hz.
I then jumped into some PUBG as that game seems to vary a lot on FPS. It would go anywhere from 90 up to about 200. Mostly sticking to around 160 range. Not only was there no issues the VRR certainly was working. It would be noticeable. I turned off VRR and you could see the difference.
So, at least for my unit, I can confirm VRR works on HDMI.
@@GuerreroUltimo The terminology is a bit confusing but from what I've read, Freesync is just another form of VRR so technically they do the same thing, apparently (according to some posts on reddit and some comparisons on TH-cam) the name changes depending on the cable (Hdmi or DP), but little else.
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation, I was worried that Hdmi would disable this feature but you confirmed that it works without problems.
The KTC H24T09P is 24" and 165hz The extra 0.5" from this H25T7 affect the sharpen quality of the image? There're a lot of reviews praising the H24T09P What do you think, H25T7 is better? They are at the same price.
I had the same doubt because I ordered this monitor and asking in some forums they told me that the difference is basically zero between 24"-25".
same question here..
no 24,5 is better size just dont get va va 24.5 will look pixelated not ips or tn
So if I wanna use this to get 120 fps on next gens I won’t let me use free sync?
What latency does it have with the HDMI cable?
Do the monitor work whit hdmi 2.1
Question do u think this is a good monitor for Xbox series s
Yes Xbox series s can do up to 120 hz so it’s pretty good especially if you get a pc later you can use all 180 hz
what is the difference between 180hz and 165hz monitor I can't decide what to buy?
its not a big difference its so small you might not even notice it well i am using 60hz but thats whazt i personally believe lol but even so 180hz good :)
I didn't get my first over 60 fps monitor 2022. Kinda nice and smooth. But i also couldn't go over 60 fps untill just before that too.
Over $100 on Amazon now, but only just. Still a very good deal.
There was a $15 coupon checkbox this last week on the product page. See if that still applies.
@@CraftComputing I didn't see the coupon the first time I looked, but I looked again. As of right now - at least for me - it's $109.99 and a $10 coupon. Still a great deal, and I seriously doubt anyone will change their mind on this because of $5. 🤣
So I got this monitor and it arrived today, I enabled FreeSync on the monitors options but in AMD Adrenaline keeps showing up as Adaptatuve Sync (yes I am using a DP cable), is that intended or a bug?
Thanks for the review, it would be awesome to get your ICC profile from the calibration! Liked and subbed!
You need to enable FreeSync on the monitor itself. It's one of the menu options.
@@CraftComputing yes. Like I said in the comment I enabled it in the monitor but it shows up as Adaptative Sync in adrenaline
It would have been nice if the tests had been more technical and shown the results, the price of this monitor is too tempting.
If someone can confirm that Freesync only works on Displayport and not on HDMI, I would appreciate it since everywhere they promote this monitor with its 180hz on HDMI and DP so Freesync should work on both, unless in the video they refer to Freesync PREMIUM and not the normal one, which is not specified.
I'm answering myself in case anyone else has the same question.
Someone in a message above already confirmed that VRR (the same as Freesync) works without problems on HDMI cables, when using a Displayport cable the name will probably change from VRR to Freesync (or the other way around) in the menu of the GPU you're using because it depends on the cable (and the screen) but both options will do the same thing so there's no problem with what you use.
There are plenty of comparisons here on TH-cam if you want to clear up any doubts.
Oh man… SOO SOO soooooooo tempted to snag this for console gaming. The fact an IPS panel at ANY refresh rate over 60Hz is this cheap blows my mind. Such a great time to be alive.
wait so could i hook my ps5 to this
i hooked the same monitor up to my ps5 and i’m only getting 60 fps, why? can somebody please help me
go to settings find the display option put 120hz on it will still show 60 fps because your in the menu but when you get into a game it will be enabled sometimes you have to manually enable 120hz in the game your playing
Hey man, I'm glad your doing a review on this specific monitor. I recently bought this monitor and am currently use this it for my PlayStation 4 and for some odd reason the colors appear off. When I play games like Outlast, I notice that dark areas in the game appear to have a sort of black mixed in with red hue to it, and it kind of looks bothering. Even after calibration I couldn't get the color to appear a regular black. I'm preparing to buy a different monitor soon but I would like to hear if you have any input on resolving this issue? I hear no one else talking about this, I don't know if it's because I'm used to a different color scheme, or if these colors are actually true, but some input would be nice.
Most laptops only have HDMI BTW.
TBH maybe they should just add the option to choose your cable with your order, or raise the price a little bit and include both cables.
Bro forgot about the hdr10
12 hours of gaming for testing.
"Honey, I told you this is for work. This gaming is not for my entertainment."
Too bad most higher end LCD manufacturers no longer produce 30" 21:9 1080p IPS 144-200Hz panels. Thus the lower segment monitor OEM's, like KTC, only have limited panel types to choices from, to create new monitor products with.
Ever since the LCD manufacturers started pushing higher resolution panels several years ago, increasing the need for more powerful GPU's, the lower res 30" 21:9 ultrawide panels with good specs have all but vanished from monitor OEM product catalogues.
Except from the products using low quality VA panels.
Which IMO is a shame, since I believe a good 30" 21:9 1080p IPS 144-200Hz panel is worth while for budget orientated buidls that do not want or cannot invest in 1440p ultrawide.
I own one of KTCs older mini led screens which is an OEM version of a Coolermaster monitor that came out not that long ago. I have had it for a year now and its been stellar. It gets painfully bright (i run mine at 80% brightness i think) and has hdr1000. It does have display wake bugs right now but i cannot tell whether that is the display or my minisforum ms01 + rx 6400 being funky.
This monitor looks *insane!*
Also, first.
I honestly wouldn't mind if more "premium" monitors lowered actual prices and didn't include cables, allowing consumers to use that money to buy the lengths and types they actually want/need, as long as it's clearly stated on boxes and pages; I know that's an issue I run into myself with all these stock cables that don't fit my setups.
That said, I know Big "Whoever" might make that move and claim savings / less e-waste without actually lowering costs.
Monitor companies buy those cables in bulk/OEM it cost them like 3$ to include them. It wouldn't lower the price much.
Does it allow 120 fps on Xbox series S
its already 110$
Click the $15 coupon box
Nice price, but its 159.99 here in Canada, should be $128 after exchange rate, ugghhh
I just got a KTC 24 inch IPS 1440P 100hz monitor for 169.49$ after taxes.
Too bad VRR is not supported over HDMI. Still, hell of a value. It might actually work if your force it, but that's not super easy to do.
can it do 3D stereoscopic with active glasses and emitter?
But what kind of panel is it? 180hz is cool, but I don't want a TF panel for it
3:17 (IPS)
@@huubpeters7972 that somehow went over my head. I'm sold now lol
Orrrrr.....pay $15 more for the H24T27 for QHD resolution + 100hz refresh?
Totally considering buying two of those -- one belonging for work (will get reimbursed! 👍) and one as a secondary personal monitor at home.
¿El monitor tiene hdr?
It’s 95.00 with coupon right now on Amazon
It's fun to see on display... how amused you are with your own dad jokes.
Patiently waiting for the day when you’re not Jeff 🤞
Please benchmark all those old enterprise GPU's you bought for basic AI performance. I'm sure Reddit will help you come up with basic info benchmarks. That's the new hotness for homelabs.
1080p 😭
For that price that's the best you're gonna get, KTC only has 100HZ 2K screens at that price range
Vast majority of games doesn't even benefit from anything above 60HZ, all animations are tied to whatever the cycle speed is of the game.
Its a complete waste of money.
....what???? This is 100% false, and is not how the majority of game engines work.