yeah, they literally screw in to the plastic instead of having a metal thread insert, so they strip really quick. though it's a good thing that good quality monitor arms come in cheap now, usually at around $15 to $20.
Yeah, that sucks a lot! I`ve been noticing that trend with cheapo panels last few years. Wobbly non-adjustable mess. I have Dell U2412M since 2015 (back then it cost me around $400 in europe) which is ancient by all modern metrics (i quite like 16:10 aspect ratio though, shame that died out) but it has ergonomically adjustable stand with height, swivel, tilt and pivot with steel base and all moving parts - still smooth with no creaks. Also I guess stand alone is double the weight of any of these monitors. Whole thing is almost 7 kg which is probably in line with 30" decent quality panels these days.
Part of why I like a lot of older Dell monitors, since those often had height adjustable, tilting AND rotating stands, meanwhile you'd be lucky to get any of those on most new cheap monitors, and the image quality isn't much better on those if at all usually.
Got a couple 1080p 60 Hz screens here that can do 84 Hz without issues. The only point when there is some "lag", is when I downsample 4K on it, but 2880x1620 is fine.
There's even more $100 gaming monitors that might be better: Sceptre, Viotek, Dell, and others have some 24" $100 monitors @75Hz. I think it's rather hard to see the motion issue at all times, so yes there's much more testing to be done.
Love your stuff man. It’s hilarious the timing of this video considering, Linus just put out a video about a $100 monitor lol. Hopefully the coincidence will bring some new eyes to your amazing content and style!
For anyone looking at cheap monitors, Do be aware that the biggest (in my experience doing repair work in the industry) factor is longevity. I've seen a LOT of dirt cheap monitors have either REALLY bad coil whine straight out of the box, or straight up blown caps within a few months. While they are simple repairs, you don't want to be fixing something you just bought. Look into the brand your buying for some long term reviews if you can
What? Expect back bleed and dead pix to be the danger even if reviews gives a screen a ok. How can a non CRT monitor be so bad that it die due to caps and coil wine?? Got a 1440p 31.5inch 75hz screen for like $200 and it is still a really good monitor 3 years into owning it. Got heavily used 1080p monitors from Samsung and BenQ that are still doing there job no dead pixels or back bleed or anything. All cheap ish screens. 2005-2015. Sure 60hz but still.
I've been using Pixio monitors for years, and I've always been very happy with them. They are almost always the best bang for your buck with good image quality. I have the PX27 Prime now, and it's a 27" 1440p 165hz IPS panel, and 3 years ago I picked it up for $350 which at the time was the cheapest price for a monitor with those specs. It's still working perfectly as well
I had a panel based on the Pixio 1440p 95hz which was bloody brilliant. Now a great second monitor. Pixio stuff seems good, the features you need easy to get to, no getting lost in the menus.
The thing about Pixio is that a couple of years down the line the model you bought will be well out of production and you will have zero support, spare parts, etc. On the other hand you can figure out what panel is in the thing and find a cracked monitor with a compatible driver board pretty easily if you need one. And if you hit this point, I implore you, buy a new equivalent monitor if you can, and use the Pixio repair as a secondary. If you can afford it it's the right way to go.
I’ve got a 1440p 165hz monitor from Pixio. It’s an IPS panel and really well featured for a relatively cheap 1440p high refresh rate monitor, I’ve been really happy with it so far
5:17, desk arms that clamp into the back of the desk are really good, they free up desk space, and allow much better positional placement. They fit all budgets. 6:10, having used monitors with no built in speakers, having something for windows "dings" etc is great if you only really need it for basic office work. ;-P
i disagree with the "they fit in all budgets" , for example if id want to buy one from a store (locally) its 60 dollars, and you can basically buy another monitor for that
@@Victicat You mean taxes? There aren't any additional fees using Amazon. And no, $60 doesn't buy you a monitor. That's not even budget; that's you can't afford a monitor pricing.
I've had a TV or two by them over the years and they were quite a few steps above garbage, actually. Never had issues with them. Just eventually upgraded to something bigger and prettier. But that's what we do, huh?
I used to have that Koorui 24e4 monitor but I returned it after about 1 month of use. I was getting the same problem as you but I wasn't even gaming. The smearing was so bad that it looked terrible even just using it to watch videos. I now realized for that price point theres nothing good so I decided to pick up a more expensive monitor which was the g24f 2. I'm very happy with my new purchase and will never buy a VA panel ever again.
IPS all day everyday my g! There are better VA panels out there, Like the odyssey series, But I've tried all manor of VA & IPS monitors over the years and nothing comes close to a good IPS.. In my opinion of course, Every subject is a battle ground of opinion lol.
@@danimayb i have a 1080P 165hz 24.5 inch TN panel and a 1440p 144hz 32inch VA panel. noticed some ghosting at first with 1440p panel and fiddled with settings now i cant notice it. next upgrade is gonna be 240hz samsung g7 or whatever its called
The moment I hear "VA panel" on a cheap monitor, I immediately know that it's gonna be a smeary Vaseline mess. VA panel monitors except from Samsung on their Odyssey lineup should be avoided like a plague. Koorui does have some affordable IPS monitors if you bump up the price for a bit. Got myself a $200 Koorui 271EQ (1440p144hz IPS) and I couldn't be happier. The stand quality is also good and is height, tilt, and angle adjustable as well.
@@lewsee5562 I also have the Koorui 271EQA the VA version of that, I heard its a new product from them I cant buy the IPS one coz its always out of stock and I need a relatively cheap 1440p monitor to run my rtx 4080 I have blown over my budget over that card surprisingly the monitor is really good considering its a VA monitor there are some black smearing when viewing fast motion but it was relatively fixed when I fiddled around in the osd and no IPS glow so Black is really Black so I am quite happy with my purchase, in the future I would like to buy a 4k monitor so for now quite satisfied with my purchase.
Pixio has always been pretty good for bang for the buck. I have their older 27" 95Hz 1440p IPS Monitor, and it has held up pretty well, but as soon as I bought it, IPS monitor prices dropped a ton.
These budget monitors are all so similar because they use the same panels. It's kind of why we get different flavors of the same thing at the low end, there's only a few panels being made at a high enough amount to drive prices this low.
The 24E4 KOORUI can actually be a decent monitor if you mess around with enough settings. I was able to tune it enough to almost get rid of the ghosting completely. I tested it out for a week it wasn't all that bad.
care to share ur settings? its coming in today for me and would be my first high refresh rate monitor. would love to calibrate it to reduce the smearing and ghosting. thank u!
Sansui is a recognized TV and electrical appliances brand from Japan. Back in late 90s and early 2000s their TVs were leading the Asian market but now they are not what they used to be. Just a former shell of their past, struggling to maintain their existence.
I run a Pixio PX7 Prime 165Hz 1440p monitor (3090 Fe via DisplayPort) and I've been really happy with it. The HDR is terrible, but single player titles look amazing on it and it's given me zero issues in ~2 years. I'd really recommend stepping up to the better Pixio panels if it is in your budget.
I loved my Pixio PX329 back when I had it. Got it for like $280 back in 2020 and it looked really good, especially with custom OSD settings and setting it to 10 bit color in the Nvidia control panel. I'd buy it again if they still made it. Glad to see the Pixio the best out of this vids lineup.
When I was looking for a ultrawide monitor, Pixio turned up in few searches with a good ultawide 1440p monitor. Apparently that brand is better than you'd imagine at a first glance. Unfortunately the only two video reviews I watched, the people got a custom pink version which isn't available to the general public or else I would have snatched that thing up in a heartbeat. Ended up going with a viewsonic ultrawide which I'm happy with, but damn if the lost chance at a pink monitor doesn't still hurt a little.
My parents still run have their Sansui CRT TV for past 30 years. That thing is a tank, it's still in the basement and I hook up a PS2 to for nostalgia and it still fires up like a champ. Sansui somehow survived with some other OG Japanese TV manufacturers for so long.
"why not spend the extra money on a monitor with a better stand?" because you can reuse a VESA stand, and that completely eliminates any future concerns about ergonomics.
You can get some good 1080p 144-165hz monitors in the US for around $150 from LG, ViewSonic, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, etc. Hell, I think there was a 1440p 144hz HP monitor on sale recently for $210 that Hardware Unbox recommended.
@@WinningEmpire Yep, I grabbed an MSI 165hz IPS 1440P open box for $240 in June. I remember just 3-4 years ago, that would have been like $500-600. I would only go for 1080P if someone has a low tier GPU or wants super high refresh rate for E-sports.
Yes, many, many people still have that. As I've said before, these TH-camrs are used to the best being handed to them. Not real-world representatives here.
@@k.b.tidwell every server and control unit in my IT department use VGA, either you using it, or u are out and some event have a parallels port, on a new 2019 build server
Wisest words for any new pc gamer “do NOT cheap out on the monitor”. A good monitor will outlast your whole build, probably 3 cheap sub 1k builds and at least 2 high end builds
Being over budget on my last PC build by $500, I almost bought one of Amazon's $150 monitors, because the PC I owned last last time had one of the early widescreen LCD monitors that offered connection only through DVI or mesozoic port. Thankfully I opted for a decent 165hz 1440p monitor instead, but I came so close to the Amazon crap pile that I could smell it. It's always fun to see you scrape the bottom of the tech barrel. I'd love to see more Deathmatch Arena of cheap garbage videos like this. I especially love that Koorui slogan: "fighting for your dreams". What does that mean? Why? What random sentence generator powered by Google ML rejects did they use to come up with that? Again, WHY? Please help me! That slogan is more confusing than Inception in Spanish.
What price you can get a decent monitor at depends on what kind of refresh rate and resolution you want. $150-$200 can get you something decent to play at 1080p and 120+ hz.
Btw the Samsung odyssey 7 sometimes goes for ~420 pounds at discount pricing, so you might want to consider it as an option(1440p has up to 240hz, comes in 27" and 32", it's curved so might be your cup of tea since you had previously a wide-screen)
It's not the same company. Much like the Westinghouse and Bell+Howell crap, some Chinese conglomerate bought up the brand after it went out of business in 2014, and uses it to dupe people who trusted the name in the past.
I found this honestly useful. I'm on the hunt for a cheap 1440p monitor, and it just goes to show that paper specs are shockingly misleading. $~200 USD 1440 round-up next!
Sansui was a major brand offering high quality audio gear (especially amps) back in the 70s and 80s. The company went out of business in 2004 and now exists in name only on fairly generic electronics products.
The writing for his episodes is always well done. It doesn't matter if the video is about a topic I don't really care about, I still watch just for the riffs and jokes.
i'm kinda glad I've never been spoiled by a nice monitor or TV bc I don't notice half of what you guys talk about it these reviews. I got the 27 inch from kuuroi and it looks amazing, haven't noticed any smearing or ghosting (whatever that is). Your monitor looks fine, going to get two of these 24 inch ones for my little sisters.
I have a viewsonic xg2405 and its pretty good. The quality of the image is decent for the money. I think i could have a better experience for spending 3,4 times more on an amazing monitor but for now this is doing fine in terms of movement and colors
This video is blessing for the general sale shopper a person giving opinion on who has used pretty high end monitor so he can give + & - .Of product . And I count on it
VA panels sucks: with worse RGB percentage and small view angle it's an avoid at all cost option for my needs. Also as their names suggests: _VA = Very Annoing_ while _IPS = Infinitely Perfect Screen_ 😂 Edit: it's a joke don't get offended folks buy what you can afford 👍
Hey Dawid! Have you checked if any of the monitors have a "game mode" or whatever? That *might* help with performance on those high refresh rate monitors. I wonder if it's a similar situation with TV's n such.
Probably not, Game Mode on TVs is to help deal with input latency that gets added from all the processing TVs do to their image. For these monitors the problem is the panel itself is slow and can't transition between colours fast enough to not smear and ghost the image at the rated refresh rate.
About your ergonomics tips: you actually have it the wrong way around. Your neck will be *more* stressed if the monitor is high. Basically all ergonomics guides tell you to position the display below your eye level. And oh BTW, I seem to recall Sansui making audio gear back in the 90s when I got into hifi.
I have personally bought the 24e4 Kourai and been using it for quite a while, I dont think it was that bad in Terms for the Price. The only issue I had with it was that the 165hz were were blurry so I switched to 144hz and it ran quite good! It werent the best colors and ghosting was a also a bit there, but the price it was a really good Monitor in my Opinion.
I've been using the samsung monitor for the past 3 months, as someone who used a 1080p generic laptop monitor, I am quite happy with it. let me share the pros and cons: cons: - stand is terrible, you can actually adjust the verticle angle, but the problem is, it is unnecessarily hard. - the back is curved, so the screws come with normal vesa stands does not work, you need longer screws (yesterday I placed it on my recently bought vesa stand but it fell randomly as the screws were short thanks to stupid curve at the back. - that's about it. pros: - I think it is quite budget friendy, did not face ghosting/dead pixels etc.
Oof. 11:12 the Kurooi E4's white point at 8300k combined with the terrible blurring issues would make that a headache-inducing nightmare to use. I'd be curious to know the backlight PWM frequency at various brightness levels, which could definitely make that even worse.
60/75Hz wouldn't be a problem to me since I don't play FPS games... I prefer High graphical settings over FPS... as long it says 60ish most of the time... Why not?? Providing the colors & brightness are acceptable enough to be utilized...
I'm Dutch, so I have a Dell model introduced in 2010. It is an off-lease Dell G2410H (24"; 1920x1080; 60Hz), the price was $59.33. It has a solid stand adjustable in all direction; shift up/down; turn left/right and rotate vertically. It has DVI-D and VGA compatible with my $59.99 ASRock B450 motherboard with the same connectors and an additional HDMI plug. I use it with a Ryzen 3 2200G :) With a good cable I prefer the analogue VGA.
11:16 no wonder only the Pixio looked right, it's the only one that tracked to 2.2 gamma. This is HUGELY important to image quality and I wish you'd spent more time (and shown the measurements in closer detail) on it.
Hey Dawid just wanna say thank you for making this video, been going thru a lot lately and you definitely made my day. Funny as hell and the way you was shit talking about those monitors is funny asf istg.
I've been using the Koorui 24e3 for a while now, colors were not good out of the box and is not the brightest display either. But after some calibration, it's a fantastic monitor for the price.
I agree, don't cheap out on your display but wait for a sale. I have a curved 24" 1080p 165hz panel from MSI of all companies and I was stunned at how good it looks, definitely a worthwhile upgrade.
Yeah the monitor is one thing I'm glad I spent a little more on, on my new pc build, compared to what I was originally planning on buying. The monitor is THE thing you are going to be looking at/interacting with the whole time you are using your pc.....
this is one of the best videos i have seen that is actually factuall and this also helped me find the best monitor after i have been looking for about 2 hours
Pro Tip: look for a used LG (or AOC, but preferably an LG) monitor on eBay or Cragslist, wayyy better bang for your buck; better build quality, as well as better colors, but maybe a little bit of a limited refresh rate.
Thanks! I've had that Kurooi 24E4 sitting in my Amazon wishlist for some time now and this made me delete it. Thanks for saving me from wasting my money on it.
As a huge fan of quality vintage hifi, tarnishing the Japanese Sansui brand by selling such cheap Chinese crap as Sansui really rubs me the wrong way. In rhe 70s, it was one of the most appreciated hifi brands, selling expensive but exceptional audio gear which is still appreciated and highly sought after today. How things have changed.
Depressing how back in the 70s Sansui made some of the best Hi-Fi gear around and now their brand owner is slapping the name on the cheapest of random electronics.
I bought an entry-level AOC VA panel and really regretted it. The only games I am willing to play on it are strategy or Diablo-style RPG games as anything with full-screen animations (think FPS or simulation) or even watching movies results in a pea soup on screen whenever there are significant transitions in brightness or motion. Panning especially results in massive amounts of ghosting. While static images and brightness on a VA are pretty pleasant, I would much rather opt for a cheap TN panel that has reasonable response times even if it is only a 60hz panel. Mistakes were made and lessons were learned. Thanks, Dawid for your video, I noticed the Koorui monitors on Amazon and was wondering if they were any good. As usual, the Amazon reviews set a relatively low bar (think: it turned on, 5 stars!) so it is great to see these put through their paces.
I was thinking the same. Six feet from my desk is a little wall mount small screen Sansui that I won in a drawing at a Dr. Pepper display probably 15 years ago, and it's still a good looking second set and works like a champ lol.
I have been using the Pixio PX222 for about 6 months in my "Kitchen table battle station". I needed something cheap, and easy to setup and tear down fast to make room for dinner. I have been loving it even compared to my main gaming rig 27" 144hz monitor. I would recccomend it to anyone looking for something small and well rounded.
i think one of the biggest problem with cheap monitors is that those stands on them are made out of thin paper
yeah, they literally screw in to the plastic instead of having a metal thread insert, so they strip really quick.
though it's a good thing that good quality monitor arms come in cheap now, usually at around $15 to $20.
Well buying monitor arms for cheap is always an option, still, having shitty plastic stands is annoying out of the box.
That junior high origami class finally paying off.
Yeah, that sucks a lot! I`ve been noticing that trend with cheapo panels last few years. Wobbly non-adjustable mess. I have Dell U2412M since 2015 (back then it cost me around $400 in europe) which is ancient by all modern metrics (i quite like 16:10 aspect ratio though, shame that died out) but it has ergonomically adjustable stand with height, swivel, tilt and pivot with steel base and all moving parts - still smooth with no creaks. Also I guess stand alone is double the weight of any of these monitors. Whole thing is almost 7 kg which is probably in line with 30" decent quality panels these days.
Part of why I like a lot of older Dell monitors, since those often had height adjustable, tilting AND rotating stands, meanwhile you'd be lucky to get any of those on most new cheap monitors, and the image quality isn't much better on those if at all usually.
Being a budget gamer. This is the kind of content I really appreciate!
@@LeonSteelpaw better than his recommended $129 one also?
@@philwolf6721 The panel is probably about the same quality but the stand is MUCH better than the LG he recommended.
@@philwolf6721
With regards to the monitors shown in this video? No, the ViewSonic is a much better one, allows 144hz, and is normally around $200
@@LeonSteelpaw snap, my monitor budget is usually around $120-145
Get a better job homie!
You should test your theory on the overclocked panels. try the 75hz ones at 60hz, and the 165 at 60/75/100/120/144 and see how it scales.
I was thinking why he didnt just tried that
as for positives it's switched on love it🤣🤣🤣
Got a couple 1080p 60 Hz screens here that can do 84 Hz without issues. The only point when there is some "lag", is when I downsample 4K on it, but 2880x1620 is fine.
There's even more $100 gaming monitors that might be better: Sceptre, Viotek, Dell, and others have some 24" $100 monitors @75Hz.
I think it's rather hard to see the motion issue at all times, so yes there's much more testing to be done.
@MayorPlayz you poor poor man😭
Love your stuff man. It’s hilarious the timing of this video considering, Linus just put out a video about a $100 monitor lol. Hopefully the coincidence will bring some new eyes to your amazing content and style!
I was just about to say that!! LOL
I was thinking the some thing! And then he doesn't have the one monitor Linus looked at, but the two they said are out of stock, hahaha
Linus is sus🗯️
Davvid does sus stuff 🗯️
Came to coment the same thing XD you beat me to it
@@xos Dawid > LInus confirmed
For anyone looking at cheap monitors, Do be aware that the biggest (in my experience doing repair work in the industry) factor is longevity. I've seen a LOT of dirt cheap monitors have either REALLY bad coil whine straight out of the box, or straight up blown caps within a few months. While they are simple repairs, you don't want to be fixing something you just bought. Look into the brand your buying for some long term reviews if you can
Blown caps. *cough* Samsung *cough* LG *cough*
What? Expect back bleed and dead pix to be the danger even if reviews gives a screen a ok. How can a non CRT monitor be so bad that it die due to caps and coil wine?? Got a 1440p 31.5inch 75hz screen for like $200 and it is still a really good monitor 3 years into owning it. Got heavily used 1080p monitors from Samsung and BenQ that are still doing there job no dead pixels or back bleed or anything. All cheap ish screens. 2005-2015. Sure 60hz but still.
AOC at like $130 will cover you for a decent amount of time for a 24" IPS.
I've been using Pixio monitors for years, and I've always been very happy with them. They are almost always the best bang for your buck with good image quality. I have the PX27 Prime now, and it's a 27" 1440p 165hz IPS panel, and 3 years ago I picked it up for $350 which at the time was the cheapest price for a monitor with those specs. It's still working perfectly as well
Your humor is why I watch your stuff. Absolutely loved it. Thanks for the laughs today. Keep it up Dawid.
Literally been using an lg 24gn600 for a year and it's been an absolute workhorse for it's price. Awesome recommendation!
I had a panel based on the Pixio 1440p 95hz which was bloody brilliant. Now a great second monitor.
Pixio stuff seems good, the features you need easy to get to, no getting lost in the menus.
ElectricQ by any chance ?
The thing about Pixio is that a couple of years down the line the model you bought will be well out of production and you will have zero support, spare parts, etc.
On the other hand you can figure out what panel is in the thing and find a cracked monitor with a compatible driver board pretty easily if you need one.
And if you hit this point, I implore you, buy a new equivalent monitor if you can, and use the Pixio repair as a secondary. If you can afford it it's the right way to go.
@@thumbwarriordx thats ridiculously stupid advice. Dont tell other people what to do, dont even try making a decision for someone else, please.
I’ve got a 1440p 165hz monitor from Pixio. It’s an IPS panel and really well featured for a relatively cheap 1440p high refresh rate monitor, I’ve been really happy with it so far
I've not got a dell s2721dgaf bought it a year or so ago for £299 was the best decision I ever made
I like it! Testing cheap options so buyers on a budget don't have to do the guesswork is great and I would like to see more of it.
consensual things to my eyeballs I love the sound of that one🤣
5:17, desk arms that clamp into the back of the desk are really good, they free up desk space, and allow much better positional placement. They fit all budgets.
6:10, having used monitors with no built in speakers, having something for windows "dings" etc is great if you only really need it for basic office work. ;-P
i disagree with the "they fit in all budgets" , for example if id want to buy one from a store (locally) its 60 dollars, and you can basically buy another monitor for that
@@Victicat $25 on amazon
@@sevbait theres still fees to deal with..
@@Victicat You mean taxes? There aren't any additional fees using Amazon. And no, $60 doesn't buy you a monitor. That's not even budget; that's you can't afford a monitor pricing.
@@Victicat Yeah. The only good ones are from Ergoline and those cost you 140 USD+.
Sansui used to be a respected name in HiFi, it's a shame to see the brand slapped on garbage.
I've had a TV or two by them over the years and they were quite a few steps above garbage, actually. Never had issues with them. Just eventually upgraded to something bigger and prettier. But that's what we do, huh?
Sansui used to be a fairly well-known half-decent hi-fi brand back in the day.
I owned a few of their TVs back in the day. Pretty decent.
Maybe as a follow-up David you could see what sort of second-hand monitor you could get for the same $100?
The one I found was the Walmart ONN brand one. 1080p, 165hz, and IPS @ $50-$60 from multiple second hand sellers on the internet
@@brianhopkins5644how's the Ms refresh rate on it? Do you notice any ghosting ? Do you use their feature that promotes 1ms?
would be nice if you tried to set the 165hz one to 120hz or 144hz and see if it changed anything
I was
thinking he should have done the same thing to
Thank you so much for exploring new monitor options for us. Appreciate the comedic delivery of information.
You had me rolling in laughter the whole time, thank you so much for your humor. 😂🤣
that's sad
@Mr Mag Same here 😂
I used to have that Koorui 24e4 monitor but I returned it after about 1 month of use. I was getting the same problem as you but I wasn't even gaming. The smearing was so bad that it looked terrible even just using it to watch videos. I now realized for that price point theres nothing good so I decided to pick up a more expensive monitor which was the g24f 2. I'm very happy with my new purchase and will never buy a VA panel ever again.
IPS all day everyday my g! There are better VA panels out there, Like the odyssey series, But I've tried all manor of VA & IPS monitors over the years and nothing comes close to a good IPS.. In my opinion of course, Every subject is a battle ground of opinion lol.
@@danimayb i have a 1080P 165hz 24.5 inch TN panel and a 1440p 144hz 32inch VA panel. noticed some ghosting at first with 1440p panel and fiddled with settings now i cant notice it. next upgrade is gonna be 240hz samsung g7 or whatever its called
The moment I hear "VA panel" on a cheap monitor, I immediately know that it's gonna be a smeary Vaseline mess. VA panel monitors except from Samsung on their Odyssey lineup should be avoided like a plague.
Koorui does have some affordable IPS monitors if you bump up the price for a bit. Got myself a $200 Koorui 271EQ (1440p144hz IPS) and I couldn't be happier. The stand quality is also good and is height, tilt, and angle adjustable as well.
@@lewsee5562 the monitor was $350 lmao
@@lewsee5562 I also have the Koorui 271EQA the VA version of that, I heard its a new product from them I cant buy the IPS one coz its always out of stock and I need a relatively cheap 1440p monitor to run my rtx 4080 I have blown over my budget over that card surprisingly the monitor is really good considering its a VA monitor there are some black smearing when viewing fast motion but it was relatively fixed when I fiddled around in the osd and no IPS glow so Black is really Black so I am quite happy with my purchase, in the future I would like to buy a 4k monitor so for now quite satisfied with my purchase.
Pixio has always been pretty good for bang for the buck. I have their older 27" 95Hz 1440p IPS Monitor, and it has held up pretty well, but as soon as I bought it, IPS monitor prices dropped a ton.
These budget monitors are all so similar because they use the same panels. It's kind of why we get different flavors of the same thing at the low end, there's only a few panels being made at a high enough amount to drive prices this low.
That'll all monitors at every price. Most monitors use lg panels
The 24E4 KOORUI can actually be a decent monitor if you mess around with enough settings. I was able to tune it enough to almost get rid of the ghosting completely. I tested it out for a week it wasn't all that bad.
care to share ur settings? its coming in today for me and would be my first high refresh rate monitor. would love to calibrate it to reduce the smearing and ghosting. thank u!
Or spend. Little more money and get the 24e3
@@midnight-xs4mt Do you have the 24E3?
@@kire929 I saw review by optimum te h
@@dnleetset overdrive to normal
Sansui is a recognized TV and electrical appliances brand from Japan. Back in late 90s and early 2000s their TVs were leading the Asian market but now they are not what they used to be. Just a former shell of their past, struggling to maintain their existence.
Dawid just has a way with words like no other tech reviewer. Keeps me coming back just to see what he's gonna say next.
As a CS major, "prices fluctuate as much as employment figures in a FAANG company" got me 🤣🤣🤣
I run a Pixio PX7 Prime 165Hz 1440p monitor (3090 Fe via DisplayPort) and I've been really happy with it. The HDR is terrible, but single player titles look amazing on it and it's given me zero issues in ~2 years. I'd really recommend stepping up to the better Pixio panels if it is in your budget.
What is 3090 Fe?
I loved my Pixio PX329 back when I had it. Got it for like $280 back in 2020 and it looked really good, especially with custom OSD settings and setting it to 10 bit color in the Nvidia control panel. I'd buy it again if they still made it. Glad to see the Pixio the best out of this vids lineup.
When I was looking for a ultrawide monitor, Pixio turned up in few searches with a good ultawide 1440p monitor. Apparently that brand is better than you'd imagine at a first glance. Unfortunately the only two video reviews I watched, the people got a custom pink version which isn't available to the general public or else I would have snatched that thing up in a heartbeat. Ended up going with a viewsonic ultrawide which I'm happy with, but damn if the lost chance at a pink monitor doesn't still hurt a little.
My parents still run have their Sansui CRT TV for past 30 years. That thing is a tank, it's still in the basement and I hook up a PS2 to for nostalgia and it still fires up like a champ. Sansui somehow survived with some other OG Japanese TV manufacturers for so long.
I have a Pixio 32" 1440p 165hz monitor I bought in 2018 that I am very happy with as well. Pixio does it pretty well for budget monitors.
"why not spend the extra money on a monitor with a better stand?"
because you can reuse a VESA stand, and that completely eliminates any future concerns about ergonomics.
You can get some good 1080p 144-165hz monitors in the US for around $150 from LG, ViewSonic, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, etc.
Hell, I think there was a 1440p 144hz HP monitor on sale recently for $210 that Hardware Unbox recommended.
It's crazy how high refresh rate 1440p monitors are only slightly more expensive than mediocre 1080p panels.
@@WinningEmpire Yep, I grabbed an MSI 165hz IPS 1440P open box for $240 in June. I remember just 3-4 years ago, that would have been like $500-600.
I would only go for 1080P if someone has a low tier GPU or wants super high refresh rate for E-sports.
@@WinningEmpire it’s because of the demand for it by business people
@@WinningEmpire and so much damn better. I wouldn’t even use a cheap-o 1080P monitor for the office. It’s just wasting money
Yeah the HP one is only readable because HP had a very large stock, but it does appear to be a great monitor for the price
I want the 34" one
The “rubbing gasoline into my eyes” got me so good. Jeeeezis Christ, Dawid. I love you.
Weirdly, I actually needed a monitor with a VGA port. That was definitely a first.
Yes, many, many people still have that. As I've said before, these TH-camrs are used to the best being handed to them. Not real-world representatives here.
@@k.b.tidwell every server and control unit in my IT department use VGA, either you using it, or u are out
and some event have a parallels port, on a new 2019 build server
Wisest words for any new pc gamer “do NOT cheap out on the monitor”. A good monitor will outlast your whole build, probably 3 cheap sub 1k builds and at least 2 high end builds
Being over budget on my last PC build by $500, I almost bought one of Amazon's $150 monitors, because the PC I owned last last time had one of the early widescreen LCD monitors that offered connection only through DVI or mesozoic port.
Thankfully I opted for a decent 165hz 1440p monitor instead, but I came so close to the Amazon crap pile that I could smell it.
It's always fun to see you scrape the bottom of the tech barrel. I'd love to see more Deathmatch Arena of cheap garbage videos like this.
I especially love that Koorui slogan: "fighting for your dreams". What does that mean? Why? What random sentence generator powered by Google ML rejects did they use to come up with that? Again, WHY? Please help me! That slogan is more confusing than Inception in Spanish.
What price you can get a decent monitor at depends on what kind of refresh rate and resolution you want. $150-$200 can get you something decent to play at 1080p and 120+ hz.
Btw the Samsung odyssey 7 sometimes goes for ~420 pounds at discount pricing, so you might want to consider it as an option(1440p has up to 240hz, comes in 27" and 32", it's curved so might be your cup of tea since you had previously a wide-screen)
@@Tyrian3k I got my dell 165 hz for 150 when it was on sale, waiting for a sale on good monitors is worth it
Get a DVI to HDMI adapter. DVI is basically HDMI without the audio channel.
I love that Sansui has been using the same logo for like over 30 years, we have a old Sansui DVD player from 2002 and it has the same logo
It's not the same company. Much like the Westinghouse and Bell+Howell crap, some Chinese conglomerate bought up the brand after it went out of business in 2014, and uses it to dupe people who trusted the name in the past.
I found this honestly useful. I'm on the hunt for a cheap 1440p monitor, and it just goes to show that paper specs are shockingly misleading. $~200 USD 1440 round-up next!
If so try the Acer vg271us it went on sale for €199 here in the Netherlands, and is very good for its price!
There's an HP that will definitely win that
Sansui was a major brand offering high quality audio gear (especially amps) back in the 70s and 80s. The company went out of business in 2004 and now exists in name only on fairly generic electronics products.
Well, today I've learned that Sansui is still around. I thought that brand died decades ago.
The writing for his episodes is always well done. It doesn't matter if the video is about a topic I don't really care about, I still watch just for the riffs and jokes.
Anna writes everything
Dawid does really good tech stuff
Really informative video Dawid. Thanks so much.
i'm kinda glad I've never been spoiled by a nice monitor or TV bc I don't notice half of what you guys talk about it these reviews. I got the 27 inch from kuuroi and it looks amazing, haven't noticed any smearing or ghosting (whatever that is). Your monitor looks fine, going to get two of these 24 inch ones for my little sisters.
Sansui makes me think of Grandad's old stereo from the 80s!
I have a viewsonic xg2405 and its pretty good. The quality of the image is decent for the money. I think i could have a better experience for spending 3,4 times more on an amazing monitor but for now this is doing fine in terms of movement and colors
This is such a useful video, i was considering getting a koorui before this lol
I've been using the same LG 1080p monitor for 13 years. It's only TN, and only VGA, but it WORKS. Only cost me £120 too.
I got an 130 dollar monitor from Best Buy, and it’s honestly been really good, it’s a 24 inch IPS monitor with 1080p 120hz
If possible sometime, I'd love to see a video like this of $120-$150 monitors where you can find some 1080p 144hz monitors
There have to be good once, considering that even a decade ago good 1080p 60 Hz screens could be found for that price.
This video is blessing for the general sale shopper a person giving opinion on who has used pretty high end monitor so he can give + & - .Of product .
And I count on it
you missed sceptre monitors!!! best value
...You were very kind...disaspointed 😂 I was surprise about the Pixio I was expecting a disaster
All good fun! When I've OC'd 60Hz monitors from 60 to 70-75Hz they have worked okay but I've not had any VA panels for years, only IPS.
VA panels sucks: with worse RGB percentage and small view angle it's an avoid at all cost option for my needs.
Also as their names suggests:
_VA = Very Annoing_ while _IPS = Infinitely Perfect Screen_ 😂
Edit: it's a joke don't get offended folks buy what you can afford 👍
@@Bsc8 There are different VA flavors.
The pixio wow other people were talking about how great the sansui was thank you for the heads-up 👍
Hey Dawid! Have you checked if any of the monitors have a "game mode" or whatever? That *might* help with performance on those high refresh rate monitors. I wonder if it's a similar situation with TV's n such.
Probably not, Game Mode on TVs is to help deal with input latency that gets added from all the processing TVs do to their image. For these monitors the problem is the panel itself is slow and can't transition between colours fast enough to not smear and ghost the image at the rated refresh rate.
Last good tech youtuber on yt . I salute you my friend
I love how Dawid has the ability to come up with the most amazingly funny insults.
About your ergonomics tips: you actually have it the wrong way around. Your neck will be *more* stressed if the monitor is high. Basically all ergonomics guides tell you to position the display below your eye level.
And oh BTW, I seem to recall Sansui making audio gear back in the 90s when I got into hifi.
I have personally bought the 24e4 Kourai and been using it for quite a while, I dont think it was that bad in Terms for the Price. The only issue I had with it was that the 165hz were were blurry so I switched to 144hz and it ran quite good! It werent the best colors and ghosting was a also a bit there, but the price it was a really good Monitor in my Opinion.
I feel like colors and ghosting are pretty important though.
I've been using the samsung monitor for the past 3 months, as someone who used a 1080p generic laptop monitor, I am quite happy with it. let me share the pros and cons:
cons:
- stand is terrible, you can actually adjust the verticle angle, but the problem is, it is unnecessarily hard.
- the back is curved, so the screws come with normal vesa stands does not work, you need longer screws (yesterday I placed it on my recently bought vesa stand but it fell randomly as the screws were short thanks to stupid curve at the back.
- that's about it.
pros:
- I think it is quite budget friendy, did not face ghosting/dead pixels etc.
Dang jst finished watching linus's vid on the $100 amazon monitor
Oof. 11:12 the Kurooi E4's white point at 8300k combined with the terrible blurring issues would make that a headache-inducing nightmare to use. I'd be curious to know the backlight PWM frequency at various brightness levels, which could definitely make that even worse.
didnt Linus just uploaded a similar video a day or a couple of days ago?
Yeah and?
LTT didn't actually test more than 1 monitor though.
I own the 27" version of that Ultragear monitor and I'm very happy with it. It's by no means a high end product but you won't be disappointed.
Apparently 75Hz is becoming more standard!
60/75Hz wouldn't be a problem to me since I don't play FPS games... I prefer High graphical settings over FPS... as long it says 60ish most of the time... Why not?? Providing the colors & brightness are acceptable enough to be utilized...
@@absurdgaming00 same but 30 fps is playable for me but not fps games no i want that high
@@eee1200 True... 30 is basically the lowest it gets... But if even in LOW presets 30FPS... Time for an upgrade... 😂 Cheers bruv! 🍻
I'm Dutch, so I have a Dell model introduced in 2010. It is an off-lease Dell G2410H (24"; 1920x1080; 60Hz), the price was $59.33. It has a solid stand adjustable in all direction; shift up/down; turn left/right and rotate vertically. It has DVI-D and VGA compatible with my $59.99 ASRock B450 motherboard with the same connectors and an additional HDMI plug. I use it with a Ryzen 3 2200G :) With a good cable I prefer the analogue VGA.
11:16 no wonder only the Pixio looked right, it's the only one that tracked to 2.2 gamma. This is HUGELY important to image quality and I wish you'd spent more time (and shown the measurements in closer detail) on it.
Hey Dawid just wanna say thank you for making this video, been going thru a lot lately and you definitely made my day. Funny as hell and the way you was shit talking about those monitors is funny asf istg.
I'm Happy with my Insignia 32" tv as my monitor. Does the Job and I have no complaints.
"Its got my spidey sense tingling".. Love this guy man.. I always enjoy the vids..😅🤣
Loved the SR-71 joke, Dawid!
2:22 love the subtle Something Awful emote on the box
I've been using the Koorui 24e3 for a while now, colors were not good out of the box and is not the brightest display either. But after some calibration, it's a fantastic monitor for the price.
This video is about to blow up
I am using a used Lenovo LT2423 which was a flagship monitor from like 10 years ago. At least it is very big and has built in speakers.
I'm glad i picked up a Pixio prime, thank you for the video 😊
Dude Thank you! I was really feeling down this morning and this video made me smile! Happy Caturday! 😃
I agree, don't cheap out on your display but wait for a sale. I have a curved 24" 1080p 165hz panel from MSI of all companies and I was stunned at how good it looks, definitely a worthwhile upgrade.
Yeah the monitor is one thing I'm glad I spent a little more on, on my new pc build, compared to what I was originally planning on buying. The monitor is THE thing you are going to be looking at/interacting with the whole time you are using your pc.....
this is one of the best videos i have seen that is actually factuall and this also helped me find the best monitor after i have been looking for about 2 hours
Pro Tip: look for a used LG (or AOC, but preferably an LG) monitor on eBay or Cragslist, wayyy better bang for your buck; better build quality, as well as better colors, but maybe a little bit of a limited refresh rate.
Thanks! I've had that Kurooi 24E4 sitting in my Amazon wishlist for some time now and this made me delete it. Thanks for saving me from wasting my money on it.
I LOVE the face you make on your video thumbnails
As a huge fan of quality vintage hifi, tarnishing the Japanese Sansui brand by selling such cheap Chinese crap as Sansui really rubs me the wrong way. In rhe 70s, it was one of the most appreciated hifi brands, selling expensive but exceptional audio gear which is still appreciated and highly sought after today. How things have changed.
Depressing how back in the 70s Sansui made some of the best Hi-Fi gear around and now their brand owner is slapping the name on the cheapest of random electronics.
is that the same sansui?😊
I bought an entry-level AOC VA panel and really regretted it. The only games I am willing to play on it are strategy or Diablo-style RPG games as anything with full-screen animations (think FPS or simulation) or even watching movies results in a pea soup on screen whenever there are significant transitions in brightness or motion. Panning especially results in massive amounts of ghosting.
While static images and brightness on a VA are pretty pleasant, I would much rather opt for a cheap TN panel that has reasonable response times even if it is only a 60hz panel. Mistakes were made and lessons were learned.
Thanks, Dawid for your video, I noticed the Koorui monitors on Amazon and was wondering if they were any good. As usual, the Amazon reviews set a relatively low bar (think: it turned on, 5 stars!) so it is great to see these put through their paces.
I have had 2 pixio monitors. The one I currently have is a 32 curved 1440p 165hz. Great monitor with no issues for me.
If you try this again, AOC sells a 75 Hz 1080p IPS monitor that is quite good. GREAT video Dawid!
You should also check which specific panels these use. Often many monitors in some price range use the exact same panels...
Dam, those monitors are $100, and I bought a S24F350 at $200 thinking it was cheap
Great video man, would love to see more budget friendly oriented videos!
Sansui is a pretty good TV company in Asia or they used to be. Had one of their TV in 2003
I was thinking the same. Six feet from my desk is a little wall mount small screen Sansui that I won in a drawing at a Dr. Pepper display probably 15 years ago, and it's still a good looking second set and works like a champ lol.
I have been using the Pixio PX222 for about 6 months in my "Kitchen table battle station". I needed something cheap, and easy to setup and tear down fast to make room for dinner. I have been loving it even compared to my main gaming rig 27" 144hz monitor. I would recccomend it to anyone looking for something small and well rounded.
I am still rocking my AOC 20" 3000:1 contrast ratio 1680x1050 from 2008. Not a single dead pixel and is going strong!
Your smartassery...impresses and intrigues me.
Before Christmas I was buying 24" 1080p 165hz Asus Tuf monitors from BB for $100 USD. The only downside is that they also have a fixed stand height.
Awesome video, David 😀😀
Dawid. You are amazing. Thank you. =)
Your commentary is hilarious!
Finally a part two of the latest amazon monitor video from LTT