Ford Mustang EV engineers respond to CEO's criticism's with big improvements
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- Ford Mustang EV engineers respond to CEO's criticism's with big improvements
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The real test in the US will be when the Mach-E has the J3400 charge port. Sales should really take off.
The Select Mach-E AWD Extended Range is the best balance of price, range, performance, and charging speeds. 0-60 in 4.1 seconds and 300 miles of full range plus 36 mins 10 to 80% charging for $48,890 USD.
I looked very closely at those, but I'd rather have an actual heat pump (inexcusable not to have one in any EV over $30k), not have a bouncy poorly tuned suspension (only the GT Performance is even "decent") AND have much faster charging in 18 minutes with my EV6 that cost less after discounts, all for just a couple of tenths slower to 60 as the only compromise, if that little difference is even noticeable in the real world.
The Mach E which has been criticized at times, unfairly, is really not a bad car. Its price is comparable to other EVs and while it doesn’t look like the classic ICE model, still packs a lot of punch…3.3 second 0 to 60 ain’t too shabby and is faster than some V8 powered cars. It’s also practical because it’s a hatchback that has a lot of storage space. Good for Ford for upgrading this oftimes overlooked EV!😊😊
Only GT version is that fast and those cost a good bit more than what the average American can pay. The folks that were dumb enough to pay 10-30k+ over MSRP over 8-10 years are all way upside down. Those folks won't be buying a new car anytime soon. Not to mention the problems the car has with recalls and no OTA updates.
I drove a Mach E and it was pretty good IMO, I would love to try the Ioniq sometime but haven't been able to. I liked the interior more than any tesla I have ever ridden in, but I am a guy who likes his buttons. The range is fine, if you need more than 280mi, take a plane, bus or train.
Junk compared to tesla and byd
I see a lot of Mach E’s in The Woodlands Texas. The way the paint job sorta shimmers along the curves of the side is very beautiful. Ford really can make beautiful cars. Best luck to them.
@@larryc1616 junk is implying it doesn’t work at all. So that obviously not true. Tesla/BYD make the best total package (range, interior, performance). A MachE looks nicer than those other cars. And the interior probably feels nicer (mustang seats are usually very nice). I’m renting one this weekend for a trip and look forward to sporting around with it. 🏁
As a 35 year career mechanic, I have felt the entire time that legacy auto has been cheating the public since long before I was ever born. Recalls are just examples of Fords suppliers producing parts that fail too early. They were intended to fail soon after warranty, so yeah... they failed too soon. This is the reason why after Tesla came along, power levels of gasoline engines started going up dramatically. Oem's give as little as possible to the public. The cars they offer to the public are always watered down and crappy compared to what they could actually do or be, so it pleases me that Elon just raises the levels of performance in every respect , at will , always outpacing the legacy competition.
Finally someone that feels exactly as I do
Every aspect? Besides straight line speed that haven’t.
ICE is tapped out and there's only incremental improvements. Meanwhile the EPA continually squeezes them for lower emissions and higher economy. We have turbos, 3 pot engines, variable valve timing, cylinder deactivation, start-stop. All trying to get that last MPG but paying for it with higher cost and complexity.
Along comes GM with a 50 mile range EV using crude motors and lead acid batteries, and people love them. GM's response was to crush them all. Do you wonder if the oil companies might have had anything to do with this? Hmmmm.
Nowadays we have lithium batteries, much improved motors, high speed inverter semiconductors, and we're just getting going. Performance is improving, costs are coming down.
@@jamesvandamme7786 amen I am not alone
I think It’s great your recognizing the Merrit of the refresh. Wish they would do a lighting re-fresh or even better a 2nd generation version !! Thanks for your show, truly look forward to it
Mach E needs a heat pump before I’ll consider it.
Hey Sam please use tables and charts! It would really help all of your presentations and videos when you're discussing data! Please
Dude… That’s like asking for a plate at McDonald’s, hes the McDonald’s of EVs.
Waiting for Ford to natively adopt the NACS port and price to settle in at the mid 30k bottom line price.
I don't have an overly negative view on Ford but right now, Tesla Model Y is the vehicle to beat. I'll be willing to atleast give Ford a try but perception is pretty hard to ignore.
When you slagged the Toyota/subaru twins for being what they are, you forgot to mention the Lexus RZ as well, since it's also the same car, just even more expensive. Perhaps you haven't been inflicted with them in Australia yet?
Oh he covered that uber expensive Lexus already. I think he was going after the new subaru, hence the BZ4X.
They don't have heat pump ! In winter is worth not much in range !
I am pretty sure Ford is just dipping into the battery reserve area in order to give customers that 20 miles more range. They haven't changed the battery pack size as far as I can tell.
Congrats on the torque increase however. That might be an electronics change on the motors themselves.
One has to wonder if Ford will offer an upgrade of 20 miles to their existing Mach-E customers if I'm right about this being a battery reserve change?
Maybe later after they have used this as a marketing tool to get sales.
LFP makes a big difference.
Good on Ford for joining the trend to ride the tech benefits curve while improving their value/performance.
Great choice Mr Farley Cheers Sam
Now build a cheap small car like that
There on Long Island NY in limited numbers they look ok. I don't see people running them down anytime soon in any form.
Does it come with the V6 audio?
Unfortunately the Mach-E can only give full power for five seconds before throttling down because it will overheat. So you might beat the model Y performance at first but it will catch up as it can give full continuous power full time if needed.
They fixed that in the new model.
They should’ve called it mustang 5.0
I don't understand the race to extreme power. I still want a real world highway range of 325 and enough power to merge on the highway. I guess it's easier to make the motors faster than it is to add range. I still say it's about range (not speed), price ($28k not $48k) and ease of charging. Get those right and you will get over the early adopter and influencer hurtle.
I would look at the TM3 base RWD, but if you don't like Tesla, the RWD mid trim versions of the Ionic 5 and EV6. Range may a smidge short at about 310 miles but zero to 60 is under 7 seconds and can be found with heavy discounts, as in essentially the EV credit in the spot via manufacturer write off.
High power motors don't affect efficiency negatively. Infact, due to the lower losses of high power motors, they are actually more efficient in most cases.
Almost afternoon mate
For a first attempt the Mach E was very good. But Ford have obvs gone cold on the EV idea in the last 18 months, and are too traditional anyway in holding back big upgrades for years and only doing trim level upgrades year on year
They have a lot more work to do transforming the company. Plus they're trying to build a battery plant.
thank you for sharing Sam. No thanks, Tesla is 5 years ahead in technology. but i like the path Ford is taking
IMO, Ford has still not done enough. Are these improvements making Ford a profitable company yet? I just don’t see how they will ever be able to catch up to Tesla.
Volume sales brings prices down.
@@ChicagoBob123 Tesla benefits from not having dealers, advertising, or UAW ;labor.
Sounds like the Ford engineers took it, their CEO's harsh criticism, personal. Good for Ford.
I did not hear that they improved their thermal management system which Sandy Munro exposed was a piece of crap ( hoses using weight and efficiency problems) compared to Tesla..
Also, I know they can't duplicate (OTA) over the air updates like Tesla which is such a disadvantage. .Get the best, get Tesla. They are the leaders in tech and innovation and have the best engineers in the world with SpaceX. End of discussion.
I think ford and VW have teamed up Geely ?
Tesla making the model Y faster is like Porsche making the cayman faster than a 911……sales for their halo car would stop in favor of a good enough soccer suv
I really think the Mustang is the best looking one out there. If they get the pricing correct they will sell lot more.
And ford didn't make these improvements before it went on sale, why?
Things get better over time? 🤷♂️
@@anthonyc8499 If Ford sold red wine, then ya.
@@FloydThePink I see. So every car any other manufacturer made was perfect out of the box and never got improved over time. Got it!
@@anthonyc8499 No perfection for sure, but would'nt you buy a new model Porsche, Lexus, Toyota, Honda over a Jaguar, Land Rover or Alfa Romeo?
It still behind in charging speed
It would be good if Ford stuck to a planned EV future = just makes sense...
Ford need to get back to producing cars at prices the average working man/women can afford and i mean EV's not dinosaur oil burners
Let's see what the skunk works comes up with.
A Ford Mustang V8 is good, affordable car.
Re:your remarks on Toyota EV. My. Even my old 10 speed bike is better!😁😁
It doesn't look like a Mustang!
Although it arguably looks better than a Tesla it’s nevertheless not great and should have been closer in appearance to a proper Mustang. These improvements although welcome still don’t quite cut it and it needs to be quite a lot cheaper with more range for blue collar adoption!
@@markbennett6658 It was design as an Escape, turn Mustang!
Ford is a logo, they don't make any of their own parts, China does.
Ford’s traditional customer base is so anti-EV I don’t really know if Ford can ever compete and will go out of business by 2030 around the world. The US Government will bail them out just so Joe Bubba Johnson can have his 12mpg F150 that will cost $100k. But Ford will be a much smaller company by then.
Ford will still sell F150's to the rednecks and make money at it. If they want to continue in business they will have to come up with decent EVs and sell them to people who now drive Toyotas. Fortunately EVs are much more reliable so comparing a Ford EV to a Toyota ICE might be a good competition. If they don't screw it up.
Tim Farley was correct to publicly criticize his engineers for the Mustang because he is actually addressing his customers when he is saying that our car needs to be improved in order to compete in the EV market.
Yep, Jim Farley even more so.
Ford is ok. I would Never buy any of their products until they work out and simplify the complex design ways of their engineering! Watch Sandy Monroe's videos! Their first Electric cars are a Complex array of Way Too Many complex systems! If you really study this and reflect on long term maintenance of their cars, you would run as Fast as you could and Never buy into this Poor way of engineering monstrosity! The Same goes Especially SO of ALL the german engineering! SO complex! It takes the regular consumer far and away from doing most of the regular Maintenace and care of a Very expensive investment! Great video Sam!
What regular maintenance?
@@jamesvandamme7786 Valid point. Sandy had the HVAC system apart in detail. When you look at the complex design of the whole system, all the specialty rubber hoses! You think, Now what is that 3 hoses going to cost me to replace? Some hoses need to be replace more often than you think. Fords design is a NightMare! This Would be a Very Bad choice if a person were to keep this car long term.
@@dporrasxtremeLS3 That depends on the design. If they went to their usual supplier and got hoses and clamps built to continuously take 230 degrees at 15 PSI, they would probably last a century in an EV instead.
@@jamesvandamme7786 Watch Sandys video on this. fords complexity is embarrassing! If you had to do repairs on something like this, you would ask Why? Keep this reasonably simple. german engineering!
@@dporrasxtremeLS3 Let's see what improvements they made in the 2024 model.
Still sucks compared to the BYD seagull..
Farley saying that Ford's engineers didn't do well enough is laughable.
Who also is an engineer Mr. Farley? Who is at the helm of the company and could have gone down and talked with the engineers to find out what they were planning?
All this shows is that Ford is a striated behemoth where the left and right hands don't talk to each other.
This may be the biggest reason that Tesla will put the OEMs out of a job.... because of the way Tesla's super flat business culture works.
If you read this and don't know what I'm talking about look up TH-cam vids by Joe Justice. Many of which feature Joe talking about his observations when he worked at Tesla as to its way of doing business. You may be amazed as I was and also realize that traditionally structured companies like Ford are doomed by default when going up against a Musk run company.... just because of the way Musk companies operate internally.
That's why he started the skunk works and split the EV business off. The good talent might be interested in the future.
It's not a Mustang
I agree. A car is not a horse.
better off with a real ICE mustang kind of like a 2020's mustang 2
a mustang hasn't been a mustang since the late 60's. It got bloated and became a muscle car.
A mustang was a muscle car, not a damn crossover. Dumbest car on the market.
@@GET2222 keep the ice
It's good to see Ford's CEO and engineers seem to take this seriously. Now sell Ford EVs through Tesla Service Centers, to spare customers the dealerships.
Looks like the peak torque is 700 ft-lb, but peak power remains at 480 hp. This means that torque will fall off even more than it did at higher speeds. So dumb Ford. Ford must address the power issue for 2025. It will be so far behind the Model Y Ludicrous when it comes out.
Nobody needs ludicrous.
better off with a real ICE mustang kind of like a 2020's mustang 2
I understand the Toyota is not there yet but I am sure 10 to 15 years later, when the current Teslas and the rest are scrap, the Toyotas will still be in the road. That is why you should buy the Toyota or any other Toyota for that matter, instead of the rest.
WTF are you talking about?
My Tesla S is 9 now. Doing great. I expect to be driving it 5 years from now. Toyota will be dead by then 😂
Watch Toyota deep dive with there ICE sales! They are climate change terrorist & ennemy!
You are delusional my friend
@@douglaswatt1582 I guess I hurt your Feelings!
Subaru Solterra are better than Teslas Sam what are you thinking
Not on this planet for sure
You seem to be an anti-Tesla troll. Every comment you make hates on Tesla in some way. You must get paid pretty well to troll social media comments with such BS. Maybe you could share with me how I can be a part of this paid trolling group. I could use the extra coin for basically little effort.
You're so wrong it's sad😢
@@FlipBoxStudio The real money is in being a petroshill troll, and spread FUD about EVs.
Not better than Tesla, but still better than every ICE car on the road.