NORD DRUM 3P: Why Did I Get the Nord Drum 3p? | 424recording.com
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- A big part of my DAWless setup is the Clavia Nord Drum 3p I picked up at the end of last year. Here's 5 reasons I decided to get the Nord Drum 3p if you're thinking about adding electronic drums to your setup. You can check out my DAWless setup in depth at 424recording.com/dawless-setup
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Thank you for all the information while at the same time conveying it in a way that comforts me.
Far out! I love your calm-voice review kind sir. Keep it up !
Great demo. Thank you
Highly impressive sounds! Very much in the wave drum categorically but plain in simply the ability to edit in sections or per pad is what makes the difference on top of the kick input capability. Pretty awesome
Another thing that helps in getting hi-hat sounds is setting the dynamic decay so that lighter and harder strikes change the decay length of the sounds. For example it can be set so that a hard strike has a long decay and a light strike has a short decay. What isn't obvious when you read the manual is that this changes the decay time of ongoing sounds, so with this configuration a light strike can cut off the decay of a harder one. There are a number of presets that use this but it took me a while to figure out exactly what setting caused it.
Since changing the decay time (or other parameters) changes all the ongoing tones you can also emulate a high hat more directly with a pedal controller that can be programmed to change MIDI CC values. I'm using a MIDI Baby pedal for this. With that controller not only can I shorten the decay times when I put my toe down but I can also sweep other parameters, in different ranges/directions at the same time, so also changing, say, spectra and resonance makes a more complex and interesting, if not strictly realistic effect.
I would demonstrate this but my Nord Drum 3p I got for Christmas had a less sensitive pad (and no per-pad sensitivity adjustment) and had to go back to Sweetwater for warranty repairs, and for some reason getting Swedish drum synth parts during a global pandemic is taking a while! Sigh.
Hello, could you share how to do this? It would be greatly appreciated 👍
Love the Demo!!!!🤗
The kit reacting tonally to velocity really helps the sound feel more alive compared to regular ROMples that just change in volume.
Yeah, that was the big selling point for me. It reacts like you're playing real instruments rather than just playing back samples at varying volumes or different samples at different volumes
@@424Recording my ancient Roland SPD-8 has filters that react to velocity (selectable either high-pass or low-pass). The result is pretty good. It was a way of saving on sample memory. 30 years ago memory was so expensive! 😀
That thing is pretty sick. Really dig that jam at the end!!
Thanks, Jason! I wish I could bust out the floor tom and the snare at my place (or a full kit) but this seems to do the trick for me. I'm glad I decided to get it. Thanks, man!
@@424Recording I just wish I could play my tom and snare as well as you bustin' that beat! I just don't have the best coordination to include my feet.
I've been practicing rudiments lately and it has taken my drumming to a new level. I can't recommend trying some of those out with a practice pad or the back of a notebook or a pillow or something! Well, the cool thing with this is that you don't need the pedal. I was busting out some beats like you do with the floor tom and snare initially before I got the pedal!
Very cool video, I'm in the market for an electronic sample pad, but had not considered the Nord due to the synthesiser aspect. I was thinking it was overkill and not something I'd use as I'm only really looking for the ability to sample mostly organic drum sounds. I was thinking the Roland SPD SX would be better suited, but it's been on the market for much longer so maybe the Nord design is more advanced. What's your take on this and have you ever tried the Roland?
Great vid thx! Considering a purchase. Do you use it without headphones? Stick/pad noise is a concern for me. Thinking of maybe experimenting with different sticks, mallets, brushes, rods, etc. Any thoughts?
I never really liked electronic drums but this sounds killer! Still glad I can play and record on an acoustic kit though 😀
I hear ya, Yellow. I mean, I would definitely use an acoustic kit if I could but I can't foresee a time in the near future that I'll be able to do that so it was time to get something I could rock out with!
Wow! Very cool :)
Thanks, GS!
Thanks for your opinion! Also nice outro 😎
Thanks for watching and listening 😎
Great video! I'm trying to use this as part of a live setup but when I change kits there's a really noticeable jump in the sound as it changes from one to another. It's a massive bummer! Any thoughts?
Great video
Thanks!
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Thanks, Tom! I made a post about this thanks to this comment. Cheers!
thanks!
The KT-10 is the ultimate kick pedal, the KT-9 is also a good choice. I didn’t know the Nord 3p was so small!!! I have strike multipad, spd-30 and I am between the buying dtx multi 12 or the Nord 3p. I really love multipads if you can’t tell. Have been doing live looping performances with them and AB live lite. I have been absolutely amazed what I have been able to come up with with.
Yeah, re: Nord 3p size. It's about the size of a notebook but maybe a little longer and wider toward the controls. I looked into those other units, too, and found the Nord to be the most compelling, especially the way that it produces the sounds. The engine is dynamic and a synthesizer at heart: it's super reactive and fun to play. KT-10 ftw! Have fun and happy recording!
That beat bumps!
Thanks, Joe! That's a Dawless song I've been working on 🙌
@@424Recording Nice! I’ll be looking out for that one!
Thanks, dude! It's been taking a while, acclimating to Dawless and electronic music!
The Nord 3p has been the biggest improvement in my set up
Dawless in the main with beatstep pro
Nord 6d, A1 and 3p
I never set out to be a nord fanboi but their products jut work for me and sound superior to most everything else I have or have had
Yes! I really dig the 3p sound. That's the only Nord/Clavia instrument I've played but their reputation was well-known to me. The way the 3p works and sounds is heads above the other similar drum pads out there; it seems under the radar to me but I also don't know much about what people are using. I'll have to look into the other Nord offerings. Thanks for watching!
My favorite dawless musician is Miles Davis
can you load 808’s or custom samples?
Where can I find tambourine and claps on the nord clavia 3p?
How are you using this incorporated into your Digitakt flow?
Ultimately, I would get two of these to trigger superior drummer 3.0 with an additional kit.
If you want to play jazz stuff, try using one Nord 3p to trigger all the ride articulations. The dynamic response is sick.
Using this for electric sounds is the best. But is you already have an electric kit and trigger SD3, adding this for the ride or snare articulations gets the realism factor way out there.
Why would you use a $1200 synth instrument as a midi trigger unit.
Just why?
@@oldowl4290 It is the best dynamic triggering I have ever used. But I'm not getting another. I got mine for 550. I should have said 'if money is no object'. Time changes things, like getting a wrist destroyed, so I'm playing electric guitar now after 40 years of drums. I'm still keeping the 3p but selling my Roland stuff. :) And I'm done with SD3. Haha
what about the Roland Roland
SPD-SX PRO or the cheaper one Yamaha DTXM12 in comparison both to this model and this brand?
I am looking at these..
have this brand you choose made any new models now in 2023?
thanks for sharing!
:)
Great video and one that's really enticing me to get the P3 over the Alesis Multipad. Could you tell me two things - 1) Can you save your kit sounds? 2) Can extra sounds be added to the unit? It's not a deal breaker if it can't but I've heard conflicting stories. Cheers.
1) Yes
2) No, it's not a sample based unit. You can create your own though :)
You da man Mike
I hope I made you proud with my drumming, Adam, haha
You're killin it Mike, keep on slappin em! Hope you're doing well man
Haha thanks, Adam. Means a lot coming from you! And I will do for sure
Nice video man - thanks.
What kinda mic you using for this video on your voice?
Thanks! It must have been the Shure Beta58a or the SM58
Hello...can you tell me which other pedals exept the yamaha can be used exept the kt 10?I got a nord drum 2. Thank you very much for your answer and your very fine Video
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure honestly. I'm sure there's some info out there via Google though!
perfect, thanks. helps my decision a lot. you have a nice "connector" to the stand. just daw top mounted ones before. could you name the model? would be great to mount it below my cowbell/rim setup. :-)
This is the name of the arm I have : Pearl AX25L Long Revolving Adapter Clamp. And then it's just on a ride cymbal stand. Thanks for watching, glad it's been helpful!
What is the NDP3 sitting upon?
I personally can’t recommend Yamaha DTX Multi12 enough. I also considered buying the Nord but picked up Yamaha because of higher number of pads and acoustic drum sounds. It is sample based though and has very limited memory to store custom ones but overall I’d say it’s the most expressive and fun to use drum pad I ever tried
Alesis and Roland pads feel more like sample launchers than drums
I looked into the Yamaha, Alesis, and Roland ones, too, wiencheck, but something about the Nord caught my ear. I haven't done too much sample design with the Nord yet, but it seems like there's a good amount of user created sound slots. The extra pads on the Yamaha are awesome. I think what it was for me in the end were the demo videos of the Nord kits. I like a lot of these digital sounding kits and drum machines. Cheers!
I forgot about this. Now I want it again, lol. And so what if one of the reasons I consider this over other makes is because it's red, lol. And the sounds seem more interesting and there looks to be much adjustability in crafting your own sounds, which would be super fun and useful to me. Say Dude, did you ever pick up the SansAmp reissue? The one I got in 1991..(?)...maybe 1992; I used to remember when I got it, oh, my aching, decaying brain...Still works like new. Hope you're well. Y'know, like you're going to remember me out of 80 thousand ppl, LMAO.
Stupid noobie questions but do those scuff marks rub off easily or do they stay on the pads? Also can you give specifics on the Roland kick pedal you're using & how it's connected?
Also since your using the kick pedal I take it you're just triggering the kick on one of the pads? OR do you get to trigger the kick (or whatever sound) separately with your foot, leaving the six pads assignable to other sounds? So basically you can trigger 7 sounds??? (Not sure if you understand what I mean).
Oh , & great video btw.... you've covered some points I didn't yet see on other reviews...
Thanks for watching! I watched all the other vids on it and tried to bring some new ideas. I'm glad it helped. I'm not sure if the scuffs will come off. They wipe off a bit with a finger but I haven't tried to make them disappear completely. That would be a good question for Nord and if they recommend any type of cleaning solution. In terms of the kick, I've got the KT-10. A lot of the other vids recommend this one and I love it. The kick gets plugged into the kick input on the Nord using an instrument cable. It triggers the #1 pad (which depends how you have the layout set) which is the kick sound in most kits. You can see at the end of the video that you can hit the pedal or the pad to trigger the sound. You still only have 6 sounds, but the option to trigger one of the pads additionally with the pedal. I hope this helps!
@@424Recording Ok great. Thanks!!
hey,
i havent read all the comments below and want to ask if it is possible to send midi out to a midi to cv converter to play modular drum moduls?
would be nice to know about the midi out to controll other stuff.
thx in advanced
I need to look into this. I've been hoping to use the Nord to trigger some kits in Logic (if I can get Logic to work properly again). It might not be exactly the same question as you're asking, though, but Idk a lot about MIDI. RMR made this video using the Digitakt and Nord... maybe there's some answers there: th-cam.com/video/tQSN9ZTB0nc/w-d-xo.html
I used it to trigger all the ride articulations in superior drummer 3.0. After you do this, you'll want to buy another to trigger all the snare articulations. The dynamic range is untouchable by any other ekit
I have an Alesis Multi Strike Pad. I really like it. It’s got great stock sounds plus you can import your own samples into it.
Cool! Yeah I looked into those, too, but decided on the 3p
Nord stuff is always pretty good
I haven't played anything else by them but I know people like the keyboards...
Does it also work as a midi controller. Cause then you could get the best of both worlds
Idk if it works as a MIDI controller but it does have MIDI out and in. I've been sending MIDI to the Digitakt and then back to the 3p
What stand are you using for the Nord? Thanks!
I'm using a ride stand and a Pearl AX25L
I almost bought a snare stand. This installation method looks great! Thanks for sharing your nord drum setup!@@424Recording
sweet piece of gear, are you able to control virtual instruments with this?
I haven't tested it yet but I believe you can. My original plan was to use it for virtual drums. It's a synthesizer in pad form
@@424Recording thanks for the response, I'll likely give it a shot down the road. Glad you're enjoying yours.
My pleasure. I'll probably make a MIDI controller video later in the summer. It's definitely my favorite pick out of the e-drum world at this price level after doing a bunch of research. Cheers!
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I have an old Dr. Rhythm Dr 660. love it. But this is what I am looking for, the ability to "play" the parts. Dig It.
Yes! This is the point I got to as well. I really enjoy drum machines and programming them and how they sound, but being able to actually play the sounds with a human feel is a game changer for me. In a lot of music I've been listening to over the years, the drum sound seems to be "get as close to a vintage sounding drum machine as possible with an analog kit" and this I think is the best solution for me, living in small space and being around a lot of neighbors
@@424Recording That small space comment is part of the reason I never bought an "electronic" drum kit. This Nord is really fitting the bill here. It is so damn hard to "groove" on a drum machine. Thanks for demoing this for us.
@@karmicneurot9829 Heck yeah! My pleasure and more Nord 3p to come. Cheers!
im still waiting for the Nord Drum 4,,
Does it send a midi signal out or just an audio signal?
Check this out: th-cam.com/video/tQSN9ZTB0nc/w-d-xo.html The Digitakt/3p pairing is awesome. I've been recording MIDI out to the Digi then playing the MIDI out back into the 3p. It's a game changer for what I'm doing
@@424Recording Really cool! Interesting sounds. the sequencer on the digi is great and the sound sculpting is great on the Nord. Do you find that it's very maleable?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by malleable. I guess my approach is, come up with a beat, record it, work on the Digitakt, and then the goal is to play the drum part live and then compose the song around that. One thing that is challenging with DAWless stuff is keeping it fresh. Is that what you mean?
It sends MIDI out on channel 16 with different note values for the 6 pads - 60 for pad #1, 62 for pad #2 and so on. I use a "MIDI Solutions Event processor" to change every note 60 value from channel 16 to channel 10, 62 to channel 11 ... to record the 6 pads on seperate channels on my Polyend Seq. Quite complicated, maybe there's a better way that 242 found with his Digitakt, but works for me. The Nord Drum 3P can RECEIVE MIDI in different channels without any extra stuff though.
Why would a drummer play a drum set, then get a sampler that plays samples of actual drums? The 3P rocks because it doesn’t play drum sounds. It plays synthesized sounds. It’s truly expanding one’s pallet. Not just adding more drums to drums you already have.
I couldn't agree more. It's amazing how many sounds there are and ones that you can create, too. That's where people I've met in the past didn't seem to get instruments like the 3P. It's a very literal minded approach. "But that's not a drum set." Exactly. Cheers, Malcolm. Thanks for watching!
@@424Recording I started using samplers (DM Pro) playing the casinos of Las Vegas 21 yrs ago. Not for the sound, but because employee parking was a mile away, and I drove a pickup truck. Everything I used had to move in one trip on a hard cart. Plus, every casino has great p.a.'s. Stick pillows in a kick to bring stage volume down and it sounds like a cardboard box. Turn a sampler down and its still a cannon, just not as loud. I used a snare, floor tom, Hh and ride/crash. The rest was a multipad & kick trigger. People would ask all night long: wheres all those sounds coming from? I only see 2 drums up there.
An effective drummer is like a magic act. Making very complex/exact/mathematical look very simple.
It's not meant for that. It would be difficult to do a drum session on one. It's a synthesizer, and it allows you to create the beat. Everyone is allowed to believe what's the best equipment, but he suggests it over a Roland type keyboard or component that's allot more money. The important thing to highlight is that this is not a drum kit it works great with the edm world and not so much drums.
@adamfrank8768 I have excellent results using the Nord in my music. I play it with an acoustic kit, or with a sampler with acoustic samples, but I don't ever have a need to play an acoustic kit and acoustic samples anymore than I'd need 2 acoustic drum sets.
ever think of getting an MPC?
I have! I wound up getting a Digitakt. I know they're not exactly the same but that made the most sense for me
Thank God! This should be cheap in a year or two. Because:
A- there'll be something better by then, and...
B-of all the people who'd want one. Few can afford that PRICE...
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Yup! You're the first to notice 😎
@@424Recording damn its pretty noticeable lol
This is $1200.00. I don't get why anyone would spend that kind of money to use a drum synthesiser to just make regular drum sounds. You could save your money and do that with a $250 Alesis. This is best used to make more electronic sounds.
it was originally 699 if i recall and then nord for whatever reason skyrocketed the price to 1200. either they dont have too many units and cant produce anymore bc of part shortage or just test pricing to see how much people would stull buy it. if there was any plans for a drum 4, i doubt it with the 1200 price of 3p. no one is even looking at it except for really niche users that want a synth with drum pads.
It's still US $ 599 at Thomann. Where did you get those $1200? You're being robbed!
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